Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clubs. Are you ready for
Speaker 1: a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.
Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, May sixth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode
Speaker 1: number eight. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: We are alive from our home studios. We'll call him
Speaker 1: the s WBC Mortgage Studios. I got my guys, Nick
Speaker 1: eat Dave Hellman, and of course Amber Garcia joining us
Speaker 1: today for another episode of The Break. We got a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about today. Schedule releases coming up tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We want to talk a little bit about that, get
Speaker 1: you guys ready for that. We'll also talk about a
Speaker 1: couple or a new player for the Cowboys, Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: and why the Cowboys made this move and moved on
Speaker 1: from Cooper Rush. And then we'll finish up our discussion
Speaker 1: on the draft. Well, last week we went through our
Speaker 1: first four picks, and today we'll talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about Bradley and I ben Denucci and wrap up our
Speaker 1: draft coverage here on the break. How's everybody doing today? Great? Great,
Speaker 1: good to see you good, good surviving surviving out here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw it before we went on the show. Amber
Speaker 1: was taking some medicine, some medicine because she wasn't feeling great.
Speaker 1: Nick was like wiping his nose because it looks like
Speaker 1: he's kind of got a little something going on. So
Speaker 1: it's good that we're all in different locations. At least
Speaker 1: we'll keep each other from from getting sick. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's either toilet paper or or tissue for Unick. I
Speaker 1: don't know, like one or the other. Right, I'm always
Speaker 1: going to bring something. Where is that toilet paper? Maybe
Speaker 1: we've used that? I don't know. Have you guys used it? All?
Speaker 1: You need some more? We running low? No, not running low.
Speaker 1: I've got I've got plenty, I've got all right. Good. Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about the schedule release the
Speaker 1: Cowboys tomorrow night. Actually, the entire NFL is going to
Speaker 1: be pushing forward releasing the schedule for the twenty twenty season.
Speaker 1: Their intention, the intention of the league is that they
Speaker 1: are going to approach the season as though they're gonna
Speaker 1: play a full season, and so they're gonna release the
Speaker 1: schedule to morrow night. For the first time, each team
Speaker 1: will be allowed to release the schedule at six thirty.
Speaker 1: So we'll be releasing our schedule to morrow night at
Speaker 1: six thirty. So make sure you check out Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot com, Cowboys Mobile, any of our social channels. We
Speaker 1: will have a live show where we will release the
Speaker 1: schedule that we will cast across all those different platforms.
Speaker 1: But the question I have for you guys, is we
Speaker 1: already know the opponents. We know who the Cowboys will
Speaker 1: be playing next season, just to give you an idea.
Speaker 1: At the home schedule, we know the Cowboys will play
Speaker 1: the three division teams. They'll also play the Cardinals, forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers, the Browns, the Steelers, and the Falcons. And
Speaker 1: then on the road they'll play the three division teams
Speaker 1: plus the Seahawks, the Rams, the Vikings, the Bengals, and
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Which of all those games do you think
Speaker 1: is most intriguing to you? Well, I guess even if
Speaker 1: you had a couple of games that you kind of
Speaker 1: bunched together, what's most intriguing to you about the opponents?
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have next season. Let's start with you, Dave Well.
Speaker 1: I don't know this, but I have an inkling, just
Speaker 1: a just a hunch that I think there's a very
Speaker 1: good chance the Cowboys are going to be the team
Speaker 1: opening the Rams News Stadium in Los Angeles. There's been
Speaker 1: buzz about it for months. Jerry Jones just had a
Speaker 1: twinkling as I talking about it at the Combine back
Speaker 1: in February. And Jerry Jones is a pretty persuasive guy.
Speaker 1: So I think there's a good chance that happens. And
Speaker 1: if it does, um, what a spectacle that would be.
Speaker 1: You know, we know how impressive at and T Stadium is. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is the you know, the new you know, the
Speaker 1: next big thing. It's going to be the next greatest
Speaker 1: stadium in the NFL. I guess. So that'll be cool.
Speaker 1: Uh Selfishly, I've never been to Baltimore, So going to
Speaker 1: Baltimore to watch the MVP, the reigning MVP, Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: and then obviously get to see my guy Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: in person next year, so that's fun too. So that's
Speaker 1: three that I've got my eye on. All Right, I'll
Speaker 1: take Ravens. I'll just do one and I'll say, Ravens,
Speaker 1: I think that's the one. I think that could be
Speaker 1: the season opener actually, and I just think playing you know,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and going up to Baltimore place the Cowboys are,
Speaker 1: the stadium the Cowboys have never won at, will be
Speaker 1: will be an intriguing, intriguing matchup. I could see that
Speaker 1: being very early in the season. Camber Well, um, I
Speaker 1: would say I want to see them play with the
Speaker 1: still just for the Spanish content, honestly, just for pure
Speaker 1: Spanish content, Cowboys versus Steelers. But I am excited about
Speaker 1: the Rams. Hopefully it's a better experience than the last
Speaker 1: few times we've been over there, because that sucked. But
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what they've turned that stadium into.
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. I'm looking at the schedule and
Speaker 1: if I had one game that really intrigues me a lot,
Speaker 1: it would be the Cardinals just because with their addition
Speaker 1: of DeAndre Hopkins and what they were able to do
Speaker 1: last year offensively. You started to see as the season
Speaker 1: war on, they were starting to get that offense going
Speaker 1: a little bit. You had a guy who I think
Speaker 1: is at least top three wide receiver in the NFL
Speaker 1: and playmaker in the NFL. I think that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a really really high flying, high scoring offense there in Arizona.
Speaker 1: So that's gonna make it interesting. But I say that
Speaker 1: because I think when you look across all the opponentsy
Speaker 1: Cowboys next year, man, it's gonna I know, Dave, you
Speaker 1: guys talked to the Daft Show about this whole concept
Speaker 1: of the forty burger. They may need that because they're
Speaker 1: playing a bunch of teams that can put up some points.
Speaker 1: You look at the Cardinals, you look at the Falcons,
Speaker 1: you look at the Seahawks, you look at the Bengal
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm at the Bengals, I'm sorry, the Ravens,
Speaker 1: the Rams, and then there's some teams like the Browns
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals who have a lot of talent offensively.
Speaker 1: On any given we could show up and score a
Speaker 1: lot of points. I just think that overall, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are gonna play some teams that can score, and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys gonna have to score in order to match or
Speaker 1: play some really really really stingy defense. This could be
Speaker 1: a really interesting season, you know. Obviously, the discussion continues
Speaker 1: to go about Dak and how good he is and
Speaker 1: how much money he deserves. He's gonna have a great
Speaker 1: chance to prove himself again. I mean obvious, you're gonna
Speaker 1: play good cornerbacks every year, but it's interesting how many
Speaker 1: members of like the young class of cornerbacks are on
Speaker 1: the schedule, from Kyler Murray to Baker Mayfield, the new
Speaker 1: number one pick Joe Burrow, Daniel Jones and maybe Dwayne
Speaker 1: Haskins who were just drafted, the reigning MVP Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: the arguable MVP Russell Wilson. It's just a i mean,
Speaker 1: the you know, the face the next face of quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the NFL is all over the schedule. It'll be
Speaker 1: fun to see how Dak stacks up against that just Dak,
Speaker 1: but all the defense. I'm very curious to see how
Speaker 1: this Cowboys defense is gonna look like and perform against
Speaker 1: some of these other offense in the NFL, because based
Speaker 1: on what they just didn't do, you know, of last year.
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that this year with the new coaching staff,
Speaker 1: they're able to actually pump up the game and perform
Speaker 1: better and to the expectations that we were expecting them
Speaker 1: to play last year, and they didn't you know, you
Speaker 1: gotta watch out for the Giants too. I mean, because
Speaker 1: you know the Jason Garrett is the offensive coordinator. You
Speaker 1: say what you want about him being here, t shirts whatever,
Speaker 1: He's an good offensive coordinator. He's gonna have some good weapons,
Speaker 1: and he's got arguably one of the best running backs
Speaker 1: in the NFL, one of the most dangerous players there.
Speaker 1: So you know, with Daniel Jones coming in there, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, the Giants will be a tough matchup for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I always are here. Two. Yeah he did,
Speaker 1: I mean he did, yeah, and it was good and
Speaker 1: he was good. I mean the offensive coordinator he was good,
Speaker 1: I mean really good. So yeah, he's he's a good
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for sure. So that that that that was
Speaker 1: a problem for the Cowboys, I mean for other teams
Speaker 1: when he was offensive coordinator and running the offense. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, he had that. Here the chair point, I
Speaker 1: actually think he was a better go ahead, Dave, No, no,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Derek. Now, I was gonna say to your point,
Speaker 1: I think he was actually a better offensive coordinator than
Speaker 1: than maybe even a head coach. I think he was.
Speaker 1: I think that offense was really really good. When he
Speaker 1: was an offensive coordinator. And I actually wonder if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys did themselves a favor and they when they made
Speaker 1: the decision that he was going to step away from
Speaker 1: being the guy to call the plays, because I think
Speaker 1: that's when you started getting into a lot of other
Speaker 1: things where where the offense. You know, you get into
Speaker 1: the Scotland Ahan year and then years, and I just
Speaker 1: don't I don't know if they were better with him
Speaker 1: not calling the plays and they were with him calling
Speaker 1: the plays. Let's go ahead and move on and talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about the quarterback position. Cowboys made a
Speaker 1: decision this week that or last week that I actually
Speaker 1: really loved, and I want to hear your opinions. They
Speaker 1: signed Andy Dalton to one year deal three million dollars.
Speaker 1: I think what he's being compensated. I think he can
Speaker 1: get up to as high as seven million withincentives. I'll
Speaker 1: ask you guys a very simple question. Do you think
Speaker 1: this was a good move for the Cowboys? Let's start
Speaker 1: with Amber. How can he not be I mean, there
Speaker 1: is no way you can argue that it was a
Speaker 1: bad move. I loved it completely unexpected Honestly, I did
Speaker 1: not expect to see the Cowboys pull something like this.
Speaker 1: He's a veteran guy, he has the experience. You know.
Speaker 1: You Some people are arguing, Okay, does this mean that
Speaker 1: they can use this as leverage to negotiate with Dak
Speaker 1: when it comes up about his contract, And I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that necessarily plays a role into that.
Speaker 1: But what I do know is they back themselves up
Speaker 1: whatever the reason or case may be, whether that decides
Speaker 1: to hold out, or whether he gets injured, whatever may happen.
Speaker 1: He is a guy that can definitely step in and
Speaker 1: play a game, make it happen. The Cowboys haven't had
Speaker 1: a veteran guy with this kind of experience, at least
Speaker 1: not since I've been here. So that's really relieving and
Speaker 1: good and refreshing to see the Cowboys do something like this,
Speaker 1: because I truly think they really needed someone with experience
Speaker 1: behind Dak. Nick. To me, you know, it's like changing
Speaker 1: your car insurance. Have you ever switched her out? Like yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: like you hope it doesn't even matter. You don't see
Speaker 1: a big difference. Yeah you made a change, but you
Speaker 1: don't see a difference. That's what I hope the Cowboys
Speaker 1: will have here. Yes, it's a good backup, veteran backup.
Speaker 1: It's funny how if you were to say two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: a week ago, what's your thoughts on Andy Dalton, everybody
Speaker 1: would be like, no, as the backup, You're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the backup. So if he plays, that could be
Speaker 1: a problem. But but you know, he's never had this
Speaker 1: type of offensive line and weapons really around him, so
Speaker 1: you know he might be pretty good in that. But
Speaker 1: I just you know, as a backup. Sure, it's it's expensive,
Speaker 1: but it's should be an upgrade. But again, you hope
Speaker 1: that he plays as much as Cooper Rush played. That's
Speaker 1: the beauty of it that it's it's not it's not expensive.
Speaker 1: It's so cheap for a guy that started one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty games. It's they're only paying him nine hundred
Speaker 1: thousand more then they were paying Cooper Rush, who has
Speaker 1: thrown three NFL passes in a real game. They got
Speaker 1: him for three mill and you know there's playtime incentives
Speaker 1: and if if he plays and they go to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: he could get up to seven. That's still a bargain.
Speaker 1: The Texans are nine hundred more than what one hundred
Speaker 1: more than what was what was Cooper rushmaking. They're paying
Speaker 1: nine hundred thousand more there. They were gonna pay Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush two point one million dollars and you think they
Speaker 1: were gonna pay I mean, they hadn't paid him yet. Well,
Speaker 1: they hadn't paid him yet. He had never made that
Speaker 1: much money. He got a tender for two point two
Speaker 1: but he hadn't made that much. He didn't sign it.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, well, he signed it, but he didn't
Speaker 1: get any money until the week one. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is they hadn't going to pay him that they like,
Speaker 1: that is what they were going to pay their backup
Speaker 1: quarterback until they switched him out. Debatable either way. Either way,
Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit more. It's a lot more
Speaker 1: than they were paying their backup quarterback last year. So
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of money for a guy, you
Speaker 1: hope where he's a ball cap the whole year. That's
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. I just disagreed because again, like Dalton's
Speaker 1: making way less than a lot of other backups in
Speaker 1: the NFL right now, Like that, the going rate for
Speaker 1: a quarterback that can step in and win and potentially
Speaker 1: win you games. Is a lot of money. The Saints
Speaker 1: are paying Taysom Hill sixteen million dollars and he's not
Speaker 1: even their preferred number two or hasn't been, so I
Speaker 1: just I think it's an absurd discount. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope he doesn't play. But to get
Speaker 1: that kind of deal on a guy that's been to
Speaker 1: three Pro Bowls, um, it's it's freaking awesome. And it's
Speaker 1: so refreshing that the Cowboys were like, ah, maybe that
Speaker 1: guy's better than our guy, as opposed to we love
Speaker 1: our guys, which is what we heard for a decade. Um.
Speaker 1: It's really cool to see them step outside of their
Speaker 1: comfort zone to try to improve their roster. That was
Speaker 1: the most the most refreshing part was cutting Cooper Rush
Speaker 1: on Monday. Not not nothing against him, It's just that
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have done that before. They would have sat
Speaker 1: there and wait, well, let's see what happens, and then
Speaker 1: he has to go to camp and get no snaps
Speaker 1: and then see if there's a you know, a job
Speaker 1: waiting for him. At the end, you know, they cut him.
Speaker 1: They knew there would be somebody in New York waiting
Speaker 1: for him, so you know, it worked out. Do you
Speaker 1: think that that part of that was that they they
Speaker 1: really like Denucci and they want to see how much
Speaker 1: they can develop him. And they know with four guys
Speaker 1: on the on the roster, they're they're just not going
Speaker 1: to get a lot of opportunity, or actually five. I
Speaker 1: think there's another quarterback on the roster for training camp,
Speaker 1: but they just wouldn't get enough. They'd have too many
Speaker 1: bodies to really get a chance to see what de
Speaker 1: Nuci could do. Yeah, I do think that I think
Speaker 1: that Denucci's got a really good chance to be the
Speaker 1: third quarterback, especially now that they've added two spots on
Speaker 1: the rosters. Fifty five spots on the roster. I mean,
Speaker 1: that just makes it more sense to have a third
Speaker 1: quarterback there. But I guess I mean, but Clayton, Clayton Thorsten,
Speaker 1: I mean, don't forget him. Yeah, So let's take it
Speaker 1: a little different direction. Let's back up a little bit
Speaker 1: to Andy Dalton. Why do you think he made the
Speaker 1: decision to come to the Cowboys. This is a guy
Speaker 1: that's I think is fairly accomplished as a quarterback in
Speaker 1: the NFL's played a lot of Football's gone to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: hasn't gotten a playoff win, but has played on some
Speaker 1: pretty good offenses here in his career. Why do you
Speaker 1: think he chose the Cowboys where he's behind a guy
Speaker 1: who notoriously doesn't get hurt. Where there are probably situations
Speaker 1: in the NFL where maybe he could have gotten an
Speaker 1: opportunity to go in and maybe compete for a starting job,
Speaker 1: or even be behind a quarterback that may have a
Speaker 1: little more injury concerns that that gives him maybe better
Speaker 1: opportunity to being able to get on the field. I
Speaker 1: don't know how long is this contract for one year
Speaker 1: deal that you know, I don't know. It's hard to
Speaker 1: gage that because um I won't I won't lie. I
Speaker 1: did think about Kyle Orton when he when he signed,
Speaker 1: because I just thought, you know, that was interesting too,
Speaker 1: when Kyle Orton signed a few years ago as the
Speaker 1: backup when he had seemingly some other options, and you wondered,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he just doesn't want to do that.
Speaker 1: It doesn't want to compete. He's just he's okay being
Speaker 1: the backup. I don't know if that's the case with
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. I've never met him. I don't know anything
Speaker 1: really about him other than what he was doing. And
Speaker 1: since so one year deal probably just a chance to
Speaker 1: come back, to come back to the Metroplex area, and
Speaker 1: it's where he's from, and you know, maybe turn that
Speaker 1: into something else. But I don't know. Maybe this was
Speaker 1: this was a better situation for him, but where he
Speaker 1: is mentally that he just wanted to be here. I've
Speaker 1: been thinking about this a lot, and I don't know
Speaker 1: it for sure, but I wonder how much COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: played into this decision, because this is where Andy Dalton lives.
Speaker 1: He owns a home here, he's here, he's been like
Speaker 1: for years, he's been here in the off season, like
Speaker 1: he is very familiar with the area. Obviously he went
Speaker 1: to school at TCU, And I just wonder if you
Speaker 1: look around at the options, and you know, if there
Speaker 1: had been a place that wanted him to be their
Speaker 1: clear cut starter, maybe you do that. But if you're
Speaker 1: looking around and the best bet you have is we'll
Speaker 1: give you a chance to compete, but you've got to
Speaker 1: uproot your family too. And I'm just using I'll use
Speaker 1: Seattle as an example. I don't need to know if
Speaker 1: they offered him a spot, but You're like, well, am
Speaker 1: I really going to try to move my family to
Speaker 1: Seattle and figure out how to get the kids in
Speaker 1: school and find a home and all this other stuff.
Speaker 1: And there's a pandemic and nobody can go outside, and
Speaker 1: that just sounds exhausting to me, And you think, you know,
Speaker 1: you look at the offer on the table and you say, oh,
Speaker 1: I can take one year deal where I already live,
Speaker 1: where I don't have to do any of that, and
Speaker 1: I can reassess the situation next year when everything's fine,
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe I get a chance to play
Speaker 1: and improve my stock, or at the very least, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll kind of get to polish my image being with
Speaker 1: a more successful franchise. I just you know, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if that was a big part of the
Speaker 1: thought process. He did mention on the Adam Schepter podcast
Speaker 1: that he did have several options and he chose the
Speaker 1: cow Boys. Um, And I think I think that's part
Speaker 1: of it, Dave. I do, I really do believe that
Speaker 1: part of that is right now. I think there are
Speaker 1: probably now he's probably not the only player in the
Speaker 1: NFL that, because of the limited travel and that sort
Speaker 1: of thing, that they just they're making decisions that are
Speaker 1: somewhat short term to give them their best opportunity for
Speaker 1: right now, knowing that, uh, you know, you're just trying
Speaker 1: to see where you can fit in for this year
Speaker 1: and then with the hopes that next year they're a
Speaker 1: little bit more, uh, they're a little bit more opportunity,
Speaker 1: more opportunities to travel, opportunities to get out a little
Speaker 1: bit more and kind of see what your options are,
Speaker 1: um and then make a better long term decision. At
Speaker 1: that point, he did also mention that there was some
Speaker 1: value to him in coming to UH to play with
Speaker 1: a coach like McCarthy who has had so much success
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks, because that that ultimately can maybe help him
Speaker 1: be a little bit better at what he's doing and
Speaker 1: how he's preparing as a quarterback. And I mean, oh sorry,
Speaker 1: just I mean, thirty two is not old for an
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he
Speaker 1: can turn this into one more meaningful contract. Teddy Bridgewater
Speaker 1: situations a little bit different because he had that gnarly injury,
Speaker 1: but he wound up in New Orleans and got a
Speaker 1: nice deal to be their backup after sitting there for
Speaker 1: a year, like they paid him pretty handsomely to not play,
Speaker 1: and then he gets a chance to play five games
Speaker 1: last year, you know, Suven in for Drew Breese and
Speaker 1: turned that into a huge contract to be a starter.
Speaker 1: So there's no telling what could come out of this
Speaker 1: for Andy Dalton just being here for one year. Well,
Speaker 1: Amber you mentioned it a little earlier. There have been
Speaker 1: there's been talk up there and lots of people talking
Speaker 1: about it one way or the other on whether this
Speaker 1: really affects negotiations with Dak Prescott on a long term deal.
Speaker 1: I'll ask you guys that question. Nicholas, start with you,
Speaker 1: do you think that the signing of Andy Dalton effects
Speaker 1: or allows the Cowboys a little more leverage when they're
Speaker 1: negotiating with Dak Prescott. I don't think it allows any leverage.
Speaker 1: I just think gives them a veteran that if Dak
Speaker 1: isn't going to participate in some of the off season things,
Speaker 1: or maybe it's gonna take longer for him to get
Speaker 1: in there, they have just more of an option. But
Speaker 1: you know, also, I think the biggest part of this
Speaker 1: whole thing is just the fact that it's philosophy changes
Speaker 1: it's just the quarterback. I mean, it's a backup quarterback
Speaker 1: that McCarthy wanted. This guy drafted it, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean they didn't draft or he drafted Aaron Rodgers or
Speaker 1: cut Brett Farve when he had Aaron Rodgers, and you know,
Speaker 1: they were drafting quarterbacks all the time. He views quarterbacks
Speaker 1: differently than what we've seen before. So I just think
Speaker 1: it's it's all about that. I don't think it changes
Speaker 1: the leverage and the Cowboys trying to sign him. They
Speaker 1: know what they want to pay. They just don't want
Speaker 1: to pay Dak to be the highest paid quarterback in
Speaker 1: the NFL right now. They don't think he's deserved it,
Speaker 1: and I don't either. I can't imagine how this gives
Speaker 1: the Cowboys a substantial amount of leverage. I mean, if
Speaker 1: if they think that having Andy Dalton allows them to
Speaker 1: like hold firm on their number, I guess that's fine.
Speaker 1: But like if Dak Prescott is like the alpha elite quarterback,
Speaker 1: top tier guy that we're arguing about, Like, if he's
Speaker 1: that guy, I hope he's not intimidated by having Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton on the team, like I would hope Dak's reaction
Speaker 1: to this signing is okay, what's that? Like? What am
Speaker 1: I supposed to be scared of that? Like? I would
Speaker 1: hope that that's his reaction. Um, I don't think this
Speaker 1: does much of anything. The other thing, I feel like
Speaker 1: I keep saying this and I hope people, I hope
Speaker 1: it's getting through. This is not a Zeke situation. Um,
Speaker 1: if Dak, if Dak and the team don't have an
Speaker 1: agreement by July fifteenth, that's it. He's He's all he
Speaker 1: can play on is the tack he So theoretically he
Speaker 1: could hold out if he wants to kiss goodbye to
Speaker 1: two million dollar game check every week. He could do that.
Speaker 1: We watched Levon Bell do it two years ago. I
Speaker 1: just don't think it's likely. So you know, today ask
Speaker 1: this question, did I saw that that line of thinking?
Speaker 1: And again I'm not thinking that he necessarily will do
Speaker 1: this because I don't know if it's Dak's way. But
Speaker 1: even if he's gonna play and get those game checks,
Speaker 1: he still could sit out during training camp and that
Speaker 1: does put a certain amount of pressure on the team
Speaker 1: to sign him, because during training camp is when you
Speaker 1: want to be installing this new offense or not a
Speaker 1: new offense. But you have a new coach, you want
Speaker 1: to be installing the offense, you want to be getting
Speaker 1: ready for the season. Does that not create some pressure
Speaker 1: If he decides he wants to hold out during training camp,
Speaker 1: I will gladly eat these words. Dak Prescott would have
Speaker 1: to be an idiot to sit out of training camp,
Speaker 1: because again, Zeke sat out of training camp because he
Speaker 1: was trying to create leverage to get a new deal.
Speaker 1: If Dak doesn't show up to camp, there's nothing the
Speaker 1: Cowboys can do about it, Like they cannot give him
Speaker 1: a new deal after July fifteenth. So at that point,
Speaker 1: all Dak Prescott is doing is hurting his own earning
Speaker 1: potential by not practicing. So if he goes out, it
Speaker 1: looks like crap because he didn't have a camp. It's
Speaker 1: on him. There's nothing the Cowboys can do. So if
Speaker 1: he wants to do that, I think it would be
Speaker 1: one of the most idiotic things I've ever seen. And
Speaker 1: Dack's not an idiot, So I just don't think it's
Speaker 1: going to happen, and I will gladly come back and
Speaker 1: eat crow if that's the case. But this is gonna say,
Speaker 1: like to me, I don't think that this signing of
Speaker 1: Andy changes anything. It just, if anything, it gives you
Speaker 1: a sense of comfortness, you know, whatever the reason may be.
Speaker 1: You have a veteran guy out on the field throwing passes.
Speaker 1: You don't have Cooper Rush the one calling the offense
Speaker 1: and throwing passes. Even if that's just in practice. Let's
Speaker 1: say the training camp scenario does happen. I feel and
Speaker 1: if I was the Cowboys, I would feel so much
Speaker 1: more comfortable having a guy like Dalton out there rather
Speaker 1: than a Cooper Rush who really doesn't have much experience. So,
Speaker 1: if anything, it just gives you a plan B in
Speaker 1: some sense of comfortness, rather than just having a guy
Speaker 1: like Cooper Rush behind as your backup guy. That's that's
Speaker 1: a good point. I mean, when Deck comes off the
Speaker 1: field and he's like, hey, what'd you see, Cooper's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never thrown a pass, so I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, at least Andy Dalton's played one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty games. I mean, I've always thought that
Speaker 1: we you know, we We've said this before. I've always
Speaker 1: thought that was important Having Wade Wilson, Kellen Moore, those
Speaker 1: guys there Jason Garrett. I mean betteran quarterbacks on the sideline.
Speaker 1: That does help, but I don't think it'll be anything
Speaker 1: close to what they he'll get, so he should be
Speaker 1: able to benefit. But really quick, I know we gotta
Speaker 1: take a break. But yeah, I actually changed my stance.
Speaker 1: I do think it helps the Cowboys leverage now, and
Speaker 1: listening to what Dave said in that scenario, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it changes their stance because it allowed it changes
Speaker 1: their leverage. It allows them to say, we're sticking here.
Speaker 1: We don't have to move up. You need to come down.
Speaker 1: If not, we'll play with Andy Dalton. Then you know,
Speaker 1: can he can he lead us to an eight and
Speaker 1: eight record that Asdak did last year? I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean I think he probably could. I think Dak's way better,
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying I think it keeps their leverage
Speaker 1: where it is. Do you guys think there is any
Speaker 1: chance whatsoever that Andy Dalton gets in here and they
Speaker 1: see something from him that gives them reason to believe
Speaker 1: they could move on from Dak Prescott and in favor
Speaker 1: of Andy Dalton going beyond this year. Obviously, Dak's going
Speaker 1: to be their quarterback this year, but if they don't
Speaker 1: have a long term deal and it's a one year
Speaker 1: franchise tag, and they start seeing some things from Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton that they like. Do you see any scenario where
Speaker 1: Dak isn't their quarterback of the future? Can I see us?
Speaker 1: Can I see it? Can I picture it? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: don't think it's very likely. But I mean, who in
Speaker 1: their right mine thought Dak Prescott would take Tony Romo's
Speaker 1: job when he did, There's no I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: Dak could hurt himself. And you know, again going back
Speaker 1: to Teddy Bridgewater, people have not that great of an
Speaker 1: opinion of him, and all of the sudden he leads
Speaker 1: the Saints to a five and oh record and he's
Speaker 1: the new face of the Carolina Panthers. So is it possible? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't know how likely it is. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a good point. I mean, if Brees doesn't get hurt,
Speaker 1: Bridgewater doesn't get the chance to probably get a deal
Speaker 1: like that. So it's not likely the Deck gets hurt
Speaker 1: because he hasn't yet. But but I don't think it
Speaker 1: would be Dad. I don't think it would be something
Speaker 1: they see in Andy Dalton. I think it would be
Speaker 1: something that they saw or didn't see in Dak if
Speaker 1: he's if he doesn't sign, he struggles, they don't go
Speaker 1: back to the playoffs, and then it's like, well, maybe
Speaker 1: there are some other options here as opposed to giving
Speaker 1: him a long term deal. Yeah, I think I would
Speaker 1: agree with that. Like in this scenario, I think it
Speaker 1: would be more likely that they would say, Okay, Dak's
Speaker 1: not the guy, let's find a quarterback in the draft
Speaker 1: or you know, I don't know how likely it is
Speaker 1: that they give thirty three year old Andy Dalton like
Speaker 1: a four or five year extension, but maybe they decide
Speaker 1: to look elsewhere if this season is unimpressive. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The one thing I do love about this, and I
Speaker 1: think you hear it all the time from coaches, is
Speaker 1: you want competition at every position. Most teams don't actually
Speaker 1: do that at the quarterback position because the financial part
Speaker 1: of it usually doesn't allow them to have two viable
Speaker 1: quarterback options. But I love the fact that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: now have some competition, and if nothing else, hopefully it
Speaker 1: pushes Dak a little bit more because there's a capable
Speaker 1: guy behind him. And again I don't expect Dak to
Speaker 1: whether from that. The one thing we've know about Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott since he's gotten to the Cowboys is nothing's too
Speaker 1: big for him. The guy doesn't seem to be phased
Speaker 1: by the things that a lot of people get phased by,
Speaker 1: so I don't think it will affect him from that standpoint.
Speaker 1: I do like competition, though, and I do like him
Speaker 1: having somebody else in that room who has the same
Speaker 1: who has more experienced than he does, that can help
Speaker 1: push him a little bit to be even better than
Speaker 1: what he's been in the past. I think that's a
Speaker 1: good thing for the Cowboys all the way around, whether
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton sees the field or not. Let's go and
Speaker 1: take our first break. When we come back, we're gonna
Speaker 1: finish up our draft coverage. We had a couple other
Speaker 1: guys the Cowboys drafted that we didn't get to on
Speaker 1: our last episodes. We're gonna talk about those guys, and
Speaker 1: then Amber has a game for us in the final segment.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that when we come right back. This
Speaker 1: is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio, their new apartments. Big,
Speaker 1: such a great deal. It's okay, just okay. What's not
Speaker 1: right above the subway? Well, I bet you don't even
Speaker 1: notice it after, that's my neighbor. Ange the deal. That's
Speaker 1: just okay, it's not okay. Get a great deal with
Speaker 1: America's best network. Come into an AT and T store
Speaker 1: to find out how to get one of our popular
Speaker 1: smartphones for zero dollars down Based on GWS one score
Speaker 1: September twenty nineteen. Do you want the most interesting, up
Speaker 1: to the minute Dallas Cowboys news straight from the Star
Speaker 1: in Frisco? How about exclusive and on command. That's right,
Speaker 1: news and nuggets you can't find anywhere else. With our
Speaker 1: exclusive Cowboys content on Alexa, you can have all the answers,
Speaker 1: secret stories, and more. What's Stephen Jones thinking during a game?
Speaker 1: What's Joe Looney's favorite pregame meal. We take your questions
Speaker 1: to Cowboys players and coaches and you can hear the
Speaker 1: answers directly back to you. Just say Alexa Open Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Whether you're into being a part of this or more
Speaker 1: into something like this, Sea Geek has the tickets to
Speaker 1: the events you love. It's the easiest way to find,
Speaker 1: buy and sell tickets. Plus, with their deal score technology,
Speaker 1: they'll recommend the best seats in the house at the
Speaker 1: best value. So the next time you're craving this, download
Speaker 1: the Sea Geek app and let's go seek. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: It's that time again for tailgating with the Auterbox Boys.
Speaker 1: Autterbox the company that builds wildly overproductive phone cases, the
Speaker 1: one and only, but cases are just the start. Auterbox
Speaker 1: is the official outfitter of tailgating. If they can keep
Speaker 1: my phone safe, what can they do from my parking
Speaker 1: lot party? How about for tecking your beverages from suboptimal
Speaker 1: drinking temperatures with their elevation tumblers. An Auterbox elevation tumblers
Speaker 1: come in three sizes, a ten ouncer, a twenty ouncer,
Speaker 1: and even a sixty four ounce growler. Check out all
Speaker 1: the colors and sizes of their elevation tumblers at auterbox
Speaker 1: dot com. Back to the break. Here at the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: we can't wait to get back on the field, and
Speaker 1: we know you can't wait to pack at and T
Speaker 1: Stadium to cheer us on when that time comes. Seat
Speaker 1: Geek is the place to get all your Cowboys tickets,
Speaker 1: plus tickets to the hundreds of games, concerts, rodeos, and
Speaker 1: other live events. We'll be able to enjoy again soon.
Speaker 1: Each Seat Geek purchase is protected by a buyer guarantee,
Speaker 1: which means you'll get your money back if your event
Speaker 1: is canceled. Guaranteed SeatGeek let's go. All right, we're back.
Speaker 1: This is the Break Live from We're not calling it
Speaker 1: it's our home Studios. We're gonna call it the SWBC
Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios. We appreciate those guys are sponsoring our studio.
Speaker 1: And we're talking about draft here. I know week last
Speaker 1: week we hit up the first four picks for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys Cteedee, Lamb, Trayvon Diggs, Neville Gallum Way, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: five actually because we got to Reggie Robinson and Tyler Beadish.
Speaker 1: But we are now going to talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about Bradley and I who was the fifth round pick,
Speaker 1: pick number one, seventy nine. And my first question for
Speaker 1: you guys, and I'll direct this from first to Dave,
Speaker 1: it seemed like going into the draft, this was a
Speaker 1: guy that was getting it. Sounded like he was as
Speaker 1: high as a third round grade that gets all the
Speaker 1: way to the fifth round for the Cowboys. What do
Speaker 1: you think was the reason why a guy like that
Speaker 1: is still around in the fifth round for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: to make that selection. Athleticism that was always the knock
Speaker 1: on him, Like he's the classic case of the very
Speaker 1: productive college player that doesn't have the workout that wows
Speaker 1: the scouts. I wish I had pulled this up during
Speaker 1: the break, but his forty time and like he doesn't
Speaker 1: have that quick twitch, crazy athletic says, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: seven and a half second three cone drill, which three
Speaker 1: cone is the drill that I always look at when
Speaker 1: I'm talking about pass rushers. I'm still surprised he fell
Speaker 1: that far because again, like this guy was awesome at Utah.
Speaker 1: He was a Senior Bowl MVP, had three sacks and
Speaker 1: a horse fumble in the Senior Bowl, which is obviously
Speaker 1: against some of the top notch talent. Very surprised he
Speaker 1: fell that far, But it's that the athleticism is the
Speaker 1: reason why, Nick, What do you think he fits among
Speaker 1: these defensive ends? Is he come in? Is he an
Speaker 1: immediate starter right in? Where do you think he falls
Speaker 1: in in the I guess the pecking order of a
Speaker 1: of a position. It seems like it has at least
Speaker 1: a lot of bodies at this point. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think that he comes in and competes. He reminds
Speaker 1: me a little bit just I guess so maybe you know,
Speaker 1: geographically whatever where he comes from, but it reminds me
Speaker 1: a little bit of a Tyrone Craft just in the
Speaker 1: sense of, you know, he's gonna come in. He didn't
Speaker 1: Tyrone didn't wil a lot of people. He was a
Speaker 1: third round pick Boise State, tough guy, could play some inside,
Speaker 1: some outside. And I think that he's gonna come in.
Speaker 1: You know, he's got to be better than Dorin's Armstrong first.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's where you know he's got to
Speaker 1: be better than him. You'll look at some other guys
Speaker 1: as far as you know, Joe Jackson, Jalen Jelks, let's
Speaker 1: see what they are in their their second year. And
Speaker 1: then of course he got Alden Smith, maybe Randy Gregory,
Speaker 1: a lot of options over there. But he's just got
Speaker 1: to come in and be better than or at least
Speaker 1: compete with Dorin's Armstrong, Joe Jackson, Jalen Jelks to start with.
Speaker 1: But if Aldon Smith is what people think he is
Speaker 1: going to be or what the cowboys think he's gonna be,
Speaker 1: and then I see him as the starter Abra. How
Speaker 1: do you feel about the depth there at the defensive
Speaker 1: end position, because I think coming into the draft, I
Speaker 1: think it was a position that most people felt like
Speaker 1: was still a need for the Cowboys based upon what
Speaker 1: they had. How do you feel about it now? Well,
Speaker 1: it depends because you still don't really know what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen with Alden Smith and Randy Gregory. Are they really
Speaker 1: gonna be able to come back? And if they do,
Speaker 1: how are they going to be performing? I mean, these
Speaker 1: two guys definitely are skilled players. Those are one of
Speaker 1: the rare talented guys that are in the NFL, but
Speaker 1: they haven't been on the field plane for a really
Speaker 1: long time now, and I'm curious to see what their
Speaker 1: level is gonna be once brought on the field. I
Speaker 1: think that if that's the case, if they do get
Speaker 1: reinstated and come back right before you know, when they're
Speaker 1: ready to get started with training camp and be part
Speaker 1: of the whole practices, I think that death wise, yes,
Speaker 1: it's great. I feel pretty good about it, but there's
Speaker 1: just so much unknown, you know, aside from those two
Speaker 1: guys level wise, and then this guy that they just drafted,
Speaker 1: you just don't know what's the learning curve here? You
Speaker 1: see a lot of these guys, man, and sometimes you
Speaker 1: expect them to perform at a certain level. But we
Speaker 1: all know that some rookies have a longer or a
Speaker 1: bigger learning curve than others. So I just don't know
Speaker 1: what's really gonna happen as far as how soon we're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to see them perform well and do
Speaker 1: well in the defensive line. Amber mentions Alden Smith and
Speaker 1: Randy Gregor. I'll toss the question to you both, you,
Speaker 1: Nick and Dave, what do you think of the prospects
Speaker 1: of Smith and Gregory actually being able to contribute something
Speaker 1: after being out of football for as long as they've been.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think although go ahead, Nick, Sorry, I
Speaker 1: just you know, it's a tough question to answer. Really.
Speaker 1: I think that you're just hoping that, you know, two guys,
Speaker 1: one of them sticks, one of them is in a
Speaker 1: situation none of Maybe they're they're getting greedy and they
Speaker 1: want them both to contribute, but you know, well, we'll
Speaker 1: just see what kind of shape they're in. Sounds like
Speaker 1: Aldon Smith is in good shape. But you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think you can say, well, this is what he
Speaker 1: was when he first started. But if he you know, again,
Speaker 1: I go back to not trying to pick on Dooran's armstrong,
Speaker 1: but that's what they have right now, a defensive en.
Speaker 1: So can you be better than that? Because I think
Speaker 1: right now he's the most experienced defensive end they have
Speaker 1: on the other side, unless I'm forgetting somebody you could Putney, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you could put Tyrone over there, and then that all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they're better. But when you throw in
Speaker 1: a third guy, who's going to be the third and
Speaker 1: fourth guys? Yeah, I think that, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: wide open with a lot of players. I think. I mean,
Speaker 1: with all the stuff we've seen about how he's working out,
Speaker 1: and obviously you know he'd he played for a long
Speaker 1: time in the NFL before his off field transgressions caught
Speaker 1: up to him. If Aldon Smith can get reinstated and
Speaker 1: like stay on the straight and narrow, I feel confident
Speaker 1: he can be like a starting caliber player. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll ever be a pro bowler again,
Speaker 1: but like, I feel like he can play fifty to
Speaker 1: seventy percent of the snaps and be fine for you.
Speaker 1: I just I mean, I want to see it to
Speaker 1: believe it really more than anything. But just as yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with everything Nick just said. I think it's
Speaker 1: the biggest hole on the Cowboys roster right now and
Speaker 1: to get you know, to go back to Bradley and
Speaker 1: I I'm really excited about the pick. I think they
Speaker 1: got great value for him. But for my money, I
Speaker 1: don't think there is a position in football where it
Speaker 1: is harder to hit on somebody that's not a top
Speaker 1: tier pick. You know, Like go through the list of
Speaker 1: great defensive ends and find me the guys that were
Speaker 1: drafted outside the top like fifty or sixty picks. There
Speaker 1: aren't very many. This is not a position like wide
Speaker 1: receiver where you can find a pro bowler an undrafted
Speaker 1: free agency. If you can bend the corner and rush
Speaker 1: the passer, NFL teams are going to find you and
Speaker 1: draft you highly. John Ledyard, he's a great draft guy.
Speaker 1: On Twitter, he put out a list, you know, twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: we talked about that pass rusher class as the way
Speaker 1: we talked about this year's receiver class, like there were
Speaker 1: so many good ones, whether you want to talk about
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, Solomon Thomas at the top, of it, obviously
Speaker 1: Taco Charlton and TJ. Watt, But the list just goes
Speaker 1: on and on, and three years later, Miles Garrett, who
Speaker 1: was the number one overall pick, and TJ. Watt are
Speaker 1: the only good ones. They're the only good ones that
Speaker 1: came out of that entire class. So I hope Bradley
Speaker 1: and I is great, but history suggests that it's very
Speaker 1: hard to pull off. The one thing I will say
Speaker 1: is I love the fact that Tyrone Crawford is not
Speaker 1: It doesn't look like he's gonna be one of those
Speaker 1: guys having to jump between defensive end and defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: I actually would like to see him as a starter.
Speaker 1: And if you could get to a situation where he
Speaker 1: and Tank are your two starters, then you've got a
Speaker 1: situation where you can take Alden Smith and Randy Gregor
Speaker 1: and make them situational pass rushers. I really love that
Speaker 1: because then you can just take advantage of the athleticism
Speaker 1: of those two guys, especially coming out coming back to
Speaker 1: football after being out for so long. You're not putting
Speaker 1: a full full load on them, uh to initially have
Speaker 1: to do everything they can come in. They can just
Speaker 1: use their their athleticism in order to try to get
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. I think that helps this team. Um,
Speaker 1: and then you see where where other guys can fit in,
Speaker 1: where Dorn's armstrong can fit in. Nick, I know, and
Speaker 1: I'll let you talk a little bit about Jalen Jelks,
Speaker 1: but I think he's a guy that that maybe a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't talk about, but but maybe he
Speaker 1: has some some ability and maybe a guy that that
Speaker 1: can factor into this. Yeah. I kind of heard some things,
Speaker 1: uh this offseason, dating back to last year, that that
Speaker 1: they had kind of maybe the staff had somewhat regretted
Speaker 1: putt putting him on ir uh for for the whole season,
Speaker 1: hoping that maybe they could just work through his injury
Speaker 1: and maybe he could give them something there at the
Speaker 1: end of the year. But um, you know, he's just
Speaker 1: he's a player that he's got good size to him
Speaker 1: and you know, has some upside. But like Dave said,
Speaker 1: there's a reason why he was drafted, uh you know,
Speaker 1: or wasn't drafted all actually, Um, I forget was he
Speaker 1: a seventh round pick? Yeah? Okay, okay, so they all
Speaker 1: kind of they fly in together a little bit. When
Speaker 1: when you when you're talking about the end of the draft,
Speaker 1: but yeah, there were some reasons why he like he
Speaker 1: fell as well, so it'll be an uphill battle for him.
Speaker 1: Joe Jackson, Uh, you know, but you just hope that
Speaker 1: any of those guys stick and the Cowboys have some
Speaker 1: you know, undrafted defensive ends as well that you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they'll they'll factor in pretty quick. And then I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, another thing that makes me wonder is, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's say your guy right now is Dorian's Armstrong, or
Speaker 1: let's say Alden Smith and Randy Gregory come back in,
Speaker 1: but he takes them a few weeks of regular season
Speaker 1: to kind of get back in the groove and the pace.
Speaker 1: What does that create for DeMarcus Lawrence? Then, I mean,
Speaker 1: looking at what he had last year when you had
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn and the kind of performance that Robert Quinn had.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, a lot of people and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying de Marcus Lawrence had a terrible season
Speaker 1: at all, but definitely did not perform to the expectation
Speaker 1: of most fans, you know, as far as when you
Speaker 1: look at the contract situation. But what happens there, how
Speaker 1: does that affect the Marcus Lawrence in this season. So
Speaker 1: that creates some concerns there because the whole the whole line,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a chain effect. You know, you need
Speaker 1: all those pieces to come together in order for them
Speaker 1: to perform well. And when you have one that it's
Speaker 1: just kind of a little oxidated. I don't know the
Speaker 1: right word in English, but you know you need to
Speaker 1: add some grease on there to make it sound good
Speaker 1: and look good. And sorry, that's a bad analogy, but
Speaker 1: you get My point is you need everyone to be
Speaker 1: very well greased up and yeah, to be able to
Speaker 1: work well together. So it does. The point is it
Speaker 1: does make me wonder about DeMarcus Loreans and how that
Speaker 1: position there affects his playing time and not time, but
Speaker 1: performance wise, I think that you also have to remember
Speaker 1: that the whole defensive line structure is different. You know,
Speaker 1: you're right about d law You did not have the
Speaker 1: year that everyone expected. It didn't really meet what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were paying for there, but as far as stats go,
Speaker 1: but the defensive tackle position is way different now. It's
Speaker 1: a bigger front in the middle, Dontari Poe, Gerald McCoy.
Speaker 1: So those two right there, I think it's going to
Speaker 1: create a different dynamic in what offenses have to look
Speaker 1: at and go, all right, let's pay attention here. They
Speaker 1: didn't have the beef inside that they do now, so
Speaker 1: that that might create different challenges for opposing offensive lines
Speaker 1: as opposed to saying double team d law We're not
Speaker 1: worried about the guy on the other side. They have
Speaker 1: to worry about the middle now. And not only that,
Speaker 1: but I think I also think that Gerald McCoy will
Speaker 1: be a a bigger presence in the pass rush than
Speaker 1: what you were getting from Malie Collins at the three techniques.
Speaker 1: So I think that combined with DeMarcus Lawrence and then
Speaker 1: whatever you can get on the outside. Let's assume that
Speaker 1: those guys get reinstated, and now you've got those guys
Speaker 1: being able to flip in during pass rush situations. They
Speaker 1: may be able to generate the kind of pass rush
Speaker 1: that they need and that they have they weren't consistently
Speaker 1: able to generate last year. Amber, did you have something. No.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, it sounds good, it looks good,
Speaker 1: you know, when you started picturing these guys lined up together.
Speaker 1: But the fact that I haven't seen it happen yet,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen them in action just yet. It's kind
Speaker 1: of hard to fully imagine, you know, what this exactly
Speaker 1: gonna look like. But as of right now, it does
Speaker 1: sound great and I'm excited for it. But we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens when they get on the field. All right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take our final break. When we come back,
Speaker 1: Amber has a game for us. She's gonna have throw
Speaker 1: some questions at the crew and we'll see what you
Speaker 1: guys have to say about that well when we come
Speaker 1: right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot com Radio. I
Speaker 1: want to use what the pros use. How about the
Speaker 1: official men's skincare brand or the Dallas Cowboys Jack Black.
Speaker 1: Right now, you can get the Jack Black Starter, a
Speaker 1: curated collection of Cowboys locker room favorites, for just ten
Speaker 1: bucks with free shipping. The starter includes four Jack Black
Speaker 1: skincare favorites, plus a full sized and tense therapy lip bomb.
Speaker 1: Go to get Jack Black dot com slash Cowboys and
Speaker 1: use the code word team JB. That's get Jack Black
Speaker 1: dot com slash Cowboys. The Jack Black Starter ten bucks,
Speaker 1: free shipping. Whether you're into being a part of this
Speaker 1: or more into something like this, Sea Geek has the
Speaker 1: tickets to the events you love. It's the easiest way
Speaker 1: to find, buy and sell tickets. Plus, with their deal
Speaker 1: score technology, they'll recommend the best seats in the house
Speaker 1: at the best value. So the next time you're craving
Speaker 1: this down'tload the sea geek app and let's go seek.
Speaker 1: I'm Jay Novachik, former tight end for the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: back in the day. I was a guy who always
Speaker 1: got the tough yards, and that's why I run with
Speaker 1: John Deer today. In fact, I have a John Deer
Speaker 1: three zero twenty five E tractor that can handle any
Speaker 1: yard work I need to do, even the tough yards
Speaker 1: way out back. So if you have one acre or
Speaker 1: a thousand, John Deer has the equipment that's just right
Speaker 1: for you. Visit a John Deer dealer today and run
Speaker 1: with us. We are the official tractor provider of your
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Your new apartment's big, such a great deal.
Speaker 1: That's okay, just okay. What's not right above the subway? Well,
Speaker 1: I bet you don't even notice it after that's my neighbor.
Speaker 1: Ain't good the deal? That's just okay, It's not okay.
Speaker 1: Get a great deal with America's best network. Come into
Speaker 1: an AT and T store to find out how to
Speaker 1: get one of our popular smartphones for zero dollars down
Speaker 1: based on GWS one s cour September twenty nineteen. Back
Speaker 1: to the Break, Welcome back to the Break. We are live.
Speaker 1: We're in our home studios. We are talking Cowboys football
Speaker 1: and Amber has a game for us. Amber, what do
Speaker 1: you have? Well, it's not much of a game. But
Speaker 1: I since we haven't you know, we don't have the
Speaker 1: ability to take phone calls or anything, I did pull
Speaker 1: up some questions that the fans have been sending in
Speaker 1: and I thought we would get through some of these.
Speaker 1: So to start off, we already talked about the drafted guys,
Speaker 1: but we haven't really discussed the undrafted list. Out of
Speaker 1: those undrafted guys, who would you say would be an
Speaker 1: intriguing guy or someone to watch for this training camp?
Speaker 1: Anytime someone that catches your attention, anytime you're talking undrafted
Speaker 1: free agents, I'm I follow the money because they give
Speaker 1: the most money to the guy they're the most intrigued by.
Speaker 1: So for them to supposedly give a one one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars signing bonus to Rondelle Carter out of James
Speaker 1: Madison is crazy. If you think back a few years,
Speaker 1: they signed an undrafted receiver by the name of George Farmer.
Speaker 1: They gave him fifty grand and that was like the
Speaker 1: story of the year, Like everybody wanted to talk to
Speaker 1: this guy because he was the big money receiver. They
Speaker 1: gave Carter double that. And I'm I'm the guy that
Speaker 1: just said you don't find good pass rushers an undrafted
Speaker 1: free agency. But if the Cowboys think that highly of him,
Speaker 1: I am intrigued by what he can do. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: don't have the list in front of me, but I
Speaker 1: think there's a safety out there, maybe Luther Kirk, maybe
Speaker 1: he's his name. Yeah, he's the only safety on the
Speaker 1: Illinois state. So you're talking about that type of level
Speaker 1: that means and a lot of times when you get
Speaker 1: a lower level safety, they could play corner um And
Speaker 1: you know, I remember there were some players that Cowboys
Speaker 1: drafted a long time ago that that played division and
Speaker 1: they could play corner. They have that much skill. But
Speaker 1: if you put them at corner, they're just gonna shut
Speaker 1: down that side and they'll never play. So you put
Speaker 1: him at safety where they can go and make plays
Speaker 1: and I believe he does that. For at Illinois State.
Speaker 1: He's the only safety that's been added in the rookie class,
Speaker 1: So you know, I think he'll have an opportunity unless
Speaker 1: they make more moves, but he'll have an opportunity to
Speaker 1: do some things. You know that, I actually would think
Speaker 1: Rondelle Carter just because I agree with Dave on the money,
Speaker 1: I also look at the flip side of that. Dave
Speaker 1: just said, getting a defensive end that's not a top
Speaker 1: defensive end, the likelihood of them actually doing anything of
Speaker 1: consequences is probably pretty low. So so yeah, he's probably
Speaker 1: the guy you keep an eye on, just because they
Speaker 1: were so hard. They went so hard after him in
Speaker 1: order to get him onto the team. But to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, I don't I don't really know that
Speaker 1: any of those guys really stands out to me as
Speaker 1: a guy that I think has a great shot. This
Speaker 1: is not a team I don't think, based upon what
Speaker 1: they did in the draft and based upon what they
Speaker 1: get in free agency, I don't think this is a
Speaker 1: team where there's going to be a lot of opportunity
Speaker 1: for young undrafted free agents to even make this team.
Speaker 1: So I don't really know that there's that any of
Speaker 1: these guys really end up making a difference. At this point,
Speaker 1: I think the best option is trying to get on
Speaker 1: the practice squad and seeing if you can be or
Speaker 1: becoming a special teams type player, because I just don't
Speaker 1: know that there's enough room on this team for those
Speaker 1: guys to actually make him. Little backstory there on Rondelle Carter. Carter,
Speaker 1: he was a guy that they were thinking about drafting
Speaker 1: in the seventh round, but they took his teammate Ben Denucci,
Speaker 1: and so it probably helped Carter to not be drafted
Speaker 1: because then he gets a high signing bonus for undrafted guy,
Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand plus part of his salary is
Speaker 1: guaranteed UH in the season, so that's how much they're
Speaker 1: expecting him to be a part of things. I don't
Speaker 1: think he would have gotten some of that if he
Speaker 1: was picked in the seventh round. So sometimes it helps
Speaker 1: to not be drafted. Then you can pick your spot
Speaker 1: and pick your price. I got a I got another
Speaker 1: name I want to throw out there. This is intriguing.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just too much of a football nerd. But
Speaker 1: Shiwo alone Lua, the fullback running back out of TCU.
Speaker 1: He's a fullback. I get it. We haven't seen the
Speaker 1: Cowboys use a lot of fullbacks, but dude, he's definitely intriguing.
Speaker 1: Dude is six three, two hundred and thirty pounds. Uh.
Speaker 1: TCU gave him the rock like he I think he
Speaker 1: had five hundred yards last year. He runs a four
Speaker 1: to six forty at that size, which is pretty impressive. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I know Jimazola Wally's on the team, so
Speaker 1: that's that's gonna make it tough for him. But I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be shocked if that's a guy. You know,
Speaker 1: if we play preseason games, he's gonna be the star
Speaker 1: of a preseason game when it's the fourth quarter. Yeah, yep,
Speaker 1: because he can definitely run at I think he's a
Speaker 1: big running back more than he was a fullback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe that's how they're gonna play him. But you're right, Dave.
Speaker 1: He got the ball a lot and he was doing
Speaker 1: it at TCU when he was eighteen years old as
Speaker 1: a freshman. He was a four year guy there and
Speaker 1: he was running over people. Um as a freshman. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm actually surprised that he was an undrafted free agent.
Speaker 1: Now can Can we pronounce his name all the time.
Speaker 1: I don't know he had a nickname. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie to you. I pulled it up on my computer
Speaker 1: before I said it, so I hope hopefully I didn't
Speaker 1: get it. Well. It just makes me think of, um,
Speaker 1: what was the guy that got last year? I think
Speaker 1: he was that we were all really intrigued about, and
Speaker 1: then they ended up cutting him. And then we saw
Speaker 1: him last year back from Alabama. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: boo yeah he was a yeah yeah. It reminds me
Speaker 1: of that. You know, you were intrigued by him, and
Speaker 1: then at the end of the day, cut gun and
Speaker 1: see you and then that's pretty much it tough business.
Speaker 1: And then and then first quarter they couldn't tackle him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead. No. I just that's what kind of my
Speaker 1: point about Bradley, and I's like, if you're drafted outside
Speaker 1: the top four rounds, I would just temper my expectations
Speaker 1: about what's going to happen. And I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to sound like a hater, but that's just math. Yep,
Speaker 1: were you gonna say something else? Nick? I was I
Speaker 1: was saying about both Scarborough. Yeah, cut, you're gone, see
Speaker 1: you later. We'll see you down the road until we
Speaker 1: get to Detroit, and then we can't tackle you for
Speaker 1: the whole first quarter, and then you look like bow
Speaker 1: Jackson running around there. Yeah, it's like, oh, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the guy we cut. Yeah, and then and then Cowboy
Speaker 1: fans are like, stupid Garrett for cutting this guy. He's
Speaker 1: gonna go to the Hall of Fame, you know. All right? So,
Speaker 1: out of the draft picks, which one would you say
Speaker 1: it would be a Day one starter? Lamb for sure, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's high from him, because that one's kind of obvious,
Speaker 1: But that's high from him. When you look at the
Speaker 1: rest of the drafted guys, who would you think would
Speaker 1: be capable of being a Day one starter? Capable is
Speaker 1: the only one, right, well, not capable, because a lot
Speaker 1: of these are capable, but that will actually beat a
Speaker 1: day one starter. And I can see I can see
Speaker 1: the hot take artists on Twitter already hating on this
Speaker 1: draft class, because honestly, I think Lamb is the only
Speaker 1: guy that I expect to start right away. I think
Speaker 1: Diggs could, but I don't think it's fair to just
Speaker 1: say he absolutely should beat out these three veteran NFL cornerbacks. Four. Really,
Speaker 1: if you throw Warlie in there so to expect him
Speaker 1: to beat them out from day one, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he can't, but I don't think it's fair that he should.
Speaker 1: Same thing goes for Neville Gallimore. I mean, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna beat out Jerald McCoy. And I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people talk about Tyler beatish, but I would have
Speaker 1: to see that to believe it as well. That doesn't
Speaker 1: mean they're not good. It's just hard to be a
Speaker 1: day one starter in the NFL. I mean, let's let's
Speaker 1: not forget that that you know, and you guys know
Speaker 1: where I stay on this. I didn't think it was
Speaker 1: as great as everyone said, but there's they did have
Speaker 1: talent last year. I don't think they were the most
Speaker 1: talented team in the league and all that, but they
Speaker 1: have talent. It's hard to come in as any draft
Speaker 1: pick and and be you know, and knock people out
Speaker 1: of spots. I think, Dave, you make a good point
Speaker 1: there with a beaddish. I mean, he, okay, fourth round pick,
Speaker 1: Remington Award winner is the best center, and now can
Speaker 1: you beat out a journeyman center who continues to sign
Speaker 1: one year deals and Joe Looney, I doubt it. I
Speaker 1: doubt he can, And so that just goes to show
Speaker 1: just how tough it is to break in there. And
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys don't start out in three three wives
Speaker 1: in the first play of the season in LA as
Speaker 1: Dave predicts or whatever, then ceedee. Lamb won't be starting
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. Now, technically he'll be your third receiver,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't necessarily mean he will be the starter.
Speaker 1: Does he run out of the fire in the starting
Speaker 1: lineup when they blow a fire? You know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: If they open the season and the multiple tight end set,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be beside myself. I will be unhappy.
Speaker 1: Even Lamb could come on the next play, I won't care.
Speaker 1: I'll be so pissed off. Yeah, and I'll say this
Speaker 1: too though, I think the fact that they that that
Speaker 1: we have all of this stuff going on with COVID,
Speaker 1: that's that's keeping the players from being in person at
Speaker 1: the facility. I think that also helps. I mean that
Speaker 1: also hurts these rookies being able to come in and
Speaker 1: immediately be starters. I think there's gonna be a premium
Speaker 1: on that value that that veteran experience, right, because they've
Speaker 1: done it, they know what they're doing um and and
Speaker 1: for rookies, it's always going to be a learning curve
Speaker 1: when it comes to to acclimating from college to the
Speaker 1: NFL game. So I don't. I don't expect that anybody
Speaker 1: other than Cebe Lamb, and Cebe Lamb's coming in your
Speaker 1: third wide receiver. So I don't. I don't expect there's
Speaker 1: any of these guys that are immediately going to be
Speaker 1: Day one starters outside of Lamb getting that third wide
Speaker 1: receiver role. I don't want to just I don't want
Speaker 1: to write Digs off completely, though, like I think that's possible,
Speaker 1: but again I don't. I don't think it's fair to
Speaker 1: expect that from him before he even practices in the NFL.
Speaker 1: What I think is possible is that by mid season
Speaker 1: Diggs as your starter. I don't think there's a huge
Speaker 1: possibility that going into the season Game one, under the
Speaker 1: restrictions that we have right now, I have a hard
Speaker 1: time thinking Game one Digs as your starter over those,
Speaker 1: like you said, over all those veteran guys you already
Speaker 1: have there. Now, he might he might be a guy
Speaker 1: that can come in when you go to three three cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: I just have a hard time thinking he's gonna be
Speaker 1: ready to be a day one starter on the opening
Speaker 1: day of the season. Yep, all right. Well, with every
Speaker 1: season comes new expectations. Every year, you know, fans get
Speaker 1: excited all over again because of X, Y Z, and
Speaker 1: then you think, oh man, this is it. This is
Speaker 1: the year we're making it to the Super Bowl, We're winning,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Okay, with that excitement comes the new
Speaker 1: coaching staff. Obviously, we haven't seen much. The Cowboys have
Speaker 1: not practice, we haven't been on a fel, we haven't
Speaker 1: played a single game. But based on the things we
Speaker 1: have seen so far and heard so far, what are
Speaker 1: your first impressions of Mike mccartthy and what he's doing
Speaker 1: here in Dallas. Well, I think that what he's doing
Speaker 1: is it is what he said, is that he's gonna
Speaker 1: you know, he's looking at taking the best players. She's
Speaker 1: not weirried so much about what the scheme looks like.
Speaker 1: He's taking the best players. We saw that formula in
Speaker 1: the draft as well, so we saw him. They stuck
Speaker 1: to the board for the most part, and they let
Speaker 1: the scouts do the work and then they followed it
Speaker 1: and they picked really good players. And now we'll see how.
Speaker 1: You know, they've got really good ingredients. They didn't go
Speaker 1: with the store brand. They went with the best brand.
Speaker 1: Now let's see if at what the chefs look like,
Speaker 1: if they can go cook the meal, but they've got
Speaker 1: the top end ingredients. Yeah, I just think he's I mean,
Speaker 1: he's hit every correct note to this point, like from
Speaker 1: the opening press conference, and no idea how it will
Speaker 1: play out on the field. But I've been so refreshed
Speaker 1: by what they've done. I mean, going back to the
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton thing. They do not do that. They do
Speaker 1: not do that. Last year with Jason Garrett, they do not.
Speaker 1: Cooper rush is still here. No disrespect to him, he's
Speaker 1: a nice guy. But again stepping outside your comfort zone
Speaker 1: to improve your roster. Stealing this stat from our friend
Speaker 1: Bobby Belt, they spent more money on outside free agents
Speaker 1: this year than the last two years combined. They have
Speaker 1: changed up their process. It's very obvious drafting Cede Lamb.
Speaker 1: I think I think they might have drafted Lamb even
Speaker 1: with Jason Garrett. I don't think it's fair to say
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have done that, because if when the draft
Speaker 1: grade is that absurdly high. I don't think even Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett gets in the way of that. But it's still
Speaker 1: been a very refreshing offseason. It gives me a lot
Speaker 1: of high hopes and you know, we'll see where it
Speaker 1: goes from there. You know, the biggest thing that I
Speaker 1: think Mike McCart he has done that's made probably most
Speaker 1: people excited about him is he's been different. That's the thing,
Speaker 1: like we look at, you know, kind of his demeanor
Speaker 1: from that first press conference, and he's the first thing
Speaker 1: he says, isn't I don't really know what to do
Speaker 1: with my hands, And you juxtapose that to the guy
Speaker 1: that was here before that was so buttoned up and
Speaker 1: so polished and everything had to be exactly and exactly perfect,
Speaker 1: and it came off to a lot of fans and
Speaker 1: media as being robotic rather than being authentic. And so
Speaker 1: initially we saw him as authentic, which was the exact
Speaker 1: opposite of the guy that he that he was replacing.
Speaker 1: And then you look at free agency, and they spend
Speaker 1: a little bit more in free agency and get some players.
Speaker 1: A typically in the last several years, they haven't been
Speaker 1: willing to do. And then you look at the draft
Speaker 1: and they're going with as McCarthy said, he just wants
Speaker 1: great players. So it looks like they just go with
Speaker 1: great players. They don't care so much about the fit
Speaker 1: that would maybe make a guy a little higher on
Speaker 1: their board and maybe other boards, but they go with
Speaker 1: the guys the best available player as as as as
Speaker 1: what they've told us. And so once again it looks
Speaker 1: like everything that he's doing is just different than the
Speaker 1: previous guy. The interesting part will be to see if
Speaker 1: being different is necessarily better. We don't know that it's
Speaker 1: going to be better. We know that it's different, and
Speaker 1: right now, that's all everybody was creating for something different.
Speaker 1: We just want to see something different because what we've
Speaker 1: been doing for so many years wasn't seeming to work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now to add to that, we're running out of time here,
Speaker 1: and I'll save the rest of the questions for next time.
Speaker 1: But do you know me, You know I always try
Speaker 1: to read people and just observe people and see how
Speaker 1: they behave and act and talk. Initially, with that first
Speaker 1: press conference that Mike McCarthy had, I was like maybe this.
Speaker 1: I liked him. He's funny. I like that you can
Speaker 1: see some human aspects of him. But then I was like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe he might be a little soft, like a little
Speaker 1: too nice for what I want on a head coach.
Speaker 1: But then through the time that we've been gone through
Speaker 1: right now, I've seen different little fiery moments where I'm like, Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: yes he has it in him. I see some aggressiveness
Speaker 1: in there in him. So I'm excited to see that
Speaker 1: that combination of both. And like you said, Derek, just
Speaker 1: the fact that it's someone new, someone different, a new voice,
Speaker 1: and I think that hopefully the guys in the locker room,
Speaker 1: you know, when you bring someone else in that you're
Speaker 1: that you don't know, usually you tend to impress them
Speaker 1: and want to do better just to you know, be
Speaker 1: on their good side. But so I'm excited as far
Speaker 1: as the whole new change with everything. I don't know
Speaker 1: what kind of guy Mike McCarthy is. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know how fiery or soft or whatever. But
Speaker 1: somebody told Jason Wittena he's not coming back. And I
Speaker 1: don't think it was Jerry. I mean, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Jerry wanted him, but you know, somebody kind
Speaker 1: of said, hey boy, let's let's move on from from
Speaker 1: the greatest tight end that the Cowboys have ever had.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know, thanks a lot. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: not a soft person. Doesn't do that for sure. Now,
Speaker 1: And you know what he's done that with Brett Farve.
Speaker 1: I mean he did that in Great Bay. So he's
Speaker 1: I think he's he's the guy. And you guys said
Speaker 1: it best. I mean it's changed. That's what they needed that,
Speaker 1: they needed a different voice, and he's definitely doing that
Speaker 1: and his actions are speaking louder than his words too.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, we appreciate you join us. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be back next week at our normal time. Remember tomorrow
Speaker 1: we will have a schedule release. We'll let you guys
Speaker 1: know where the Cowboys will be playing and when they
Speaker 1: will be playing those games Tomar at six thirty Central
Speaker 1: PM here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, on the Cowboys
Speaker 1: Mobile app, on the Connective TV app, and across all
Speaker 1: of our social media channels. Make sure you join us
Speaker 1: for that show where we release the schedule till then
Speaker 1: for Nick even Dave Helmet, Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eagles
Speaker 1: from this has been The Break Live on Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas
Speaker 1: Boys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.