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Speaker 1: And ready. Welcome to between the horns. Miles Simmons here

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Speaker 1: with DeMarco far We are at cow Lucan on the

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Speaker 1: practice field. That's grass is grass. We have grass beneath us.

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Speaker 1: Real surface. We have real surface. Were outside, we're outside.

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Speaker 1: It's a little windy today. If we do every week,

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Speaker 1: why can't we do this every single week? I can

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Speaker 1: care less about weather. No more studio crap, no more

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Speaker 1: of that, no more of this in house stuff. This

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Speaker 1: is football. It's great. We've got the rams are now

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Speaker 1: in phase two. So earlier today they were out here

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Speaker 1: on the practice field. They didn't do much today because

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Speaker 1: it was raining earlier. Now it is cleared up, which

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Speaker 1: is nice. We can see over to our right where

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Speaker 1: guys are just outside the weight room. I think Marquis

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Speaker 1: Christian is like throwing a weight in ball. Do you

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Speaker 1: guys gave me the horrible seat. I love the setup,

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Speaker 1: but I got my back to the guy setup. So

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Speaker 1: I'm on your left and you're on my right, which

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Speaker 1: I got the worst seats. Just kid, go ahead anyway.

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Speaker 1: But it's good. No, it's good to be here because

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Speaker 1: this means that football is getting closer. Football's coming back.

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Speaker 1: Football activities are going on OTA start next week. But

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Speaker 1: this week the rookies arrived in the building. You know,

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Speaker 1: we talked about this last week, and I keep hearing

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Speaker 1: this deal. I think it was up in San fran

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Speaker 1: about you should do away with rookie rookie mini camps,

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Speaker 1: and I told you how much I like them because

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Speaker 1: it helps you get acclimated. And sure enough, all you

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Speaker 1: hear all week is about rookies being starstruck when they

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Speaker 1: see veterans come in. It is interesting. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's going to happen. I would hate to

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Speaker 1: waste reps because you're you still have your mouth open,

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Speaker 1: because you're you're happy being next to me. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's time for me to work, not for you to

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Speaker 1: You don't to be happy. I'm out here, I'm away

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Speaker 1: from my kids, away from my family. I'm working at football.

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Speaker 1: This is my profession. So yeah, I still like the

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Speaker 1: idea of mini camps for rookies. You do, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I think there's something to it. Probably if you

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Speaker 1: are a team that's really on the rise, or you

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Speaker 1: know a team that does not have I guess the

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Speaker 1: designs on what the RAMS have this year, you know,

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Speaker 1: because at a certain point, how much are rookies going

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Speaker 1: to get out of that if you do things probably,

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Speaker 1: which I think I think the RAMS do things properly

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Speaker 1: in the way that they do them right, No, no,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. But I mean, you get to know where

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Speaker 1: You get to know where the equipment room is, you

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Speaker 1: get to know their names, you get to know all

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Speaker 1: the stuff before the real guys show up and steal

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Speaker 1: every every bit of attention you could possibly get because

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Speaker 1: you haven't been here long enough. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: the way the RAMS do it is they kind of

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Speaker 1: split things up between veterans working with the rookies during

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Speaker 1: the morning and then the rookies have their own sort

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Speaker 1: of separate time in the afternoons. Yeah, so they do

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Speaker 1: around the coaches and have more meeting then you would otherwise.

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Speaker 1: And to me, I like it too because I think

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Speaker 1: there and then you have a group of good veterans here.

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Speaker 1: I mean you're talking from a point of luxury, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. You have good leader, good veteran

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Speaker 1: little bit different, you know what I mean. Well, right,

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Speaker 1: everyone's either playing or coaching for their jobs, right right,

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Speaker 1: and this team is a little bit different, I think,

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Speaker 1: and we've seen that over the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: and it's worked out over the last No. No, it's

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Speaker 1: been interesting to talk to some of these guys. Over

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Speaker 1: so this week we've talked to Greg Gaines, Taylor Rap,

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Speaker 1: why the Rams picked you, Okay, which is interesting guy, Yes, okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: Because if you have somebody old, we can start with

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Speaker 1: Greg Gaines, right, Yeah, he is somebody who loves to

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Speaker 1: take up double teams. That's not something that you often

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Speaker 1: He's willing to take double teams. No one likes to

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Speaker 1: His words were, I like to take it. He's a rookie,

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Speaker 1: he's trying to be nice. No one likes. Maybe he's

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Speaker 1: will not take double teams. But if that's the gig

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Speaker 1: No one likes to be doubled. Come on, you didn't

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what I said. That was one

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Speaker 1: ways that they track that at University of Washington. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he always liked to see those stats because those there

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Speaker 1: and it was reinforced a couple of years later when

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Speaker 1: Bud Carson. Yeah, Bud Carson. I mean just he taught

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Speaker 1: you can't trade one for one in this league and

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Speaker 1: be successful. So if it's one block or one guy

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Speaker 1: The other interesting thing that came out of three four defenses,

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Speaker 1: through individual period, the footwork is the same. Now. The

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. Yeah, yes, all right, moving on.

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Speaker 1: I also got a chance to talk to Darryl Henderson,

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Speaker 1: like just to rush really nine yards of care? You know,

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Speaker 1: you're explosive, You're this, you're that. And he's saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: I've broken records, you know, when I was in high

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Speaker 1: that doesn't matter, he said, He's exactly, you have to

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Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah. Right Again, it's the kind of

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Speaker 1: doesn't really matter because all of that is just college.

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Speaker 1: That's a different level of football. Face and Heisman Trophy winners.

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Speaker 1: like this is all just fun. But I mean I

427
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Speaker 1: expect a lot of people that are playing no stackle

428
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 1: are going to feel the same way. Like I'm going

429
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,640
Speaker 1: to take two you know what I mean, Yes, that's

430
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: my job, that's my role. I'm going to accept that role.

431
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,959
Speaker 1: There was a job out there available, And I can

432
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 1: think of three guys right now, or two guys that

433
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: are probably thinking along the same lines as games. The

434
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 1: other guy I would say that has a chance is

435
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 1: rap actually making plays, being on special teams, being everywhere

436
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 1: like Corey little plus playing defense. Yes, it might be.

437
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,239
Speaker 1: It might be as obvious as Cooper Cup right right,

438
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: There's no doubt this this this when you look at

439
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 1: the starting lineups and let's say all thirty three guys

440
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 1: that play I'm talking special teams, offense, defense, and you

441
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 1: keep seeing Rapp everywhere, Well, yeah, he's going to be

442
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: the guy. You're right, Yeah, you're right. I've got to

443
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: pause for a second and do a little sidebar because

444
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm looking again. Yeah, you gotta look over there. Aaron

445
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: Donald is wearing a weighted vest and carrying probably the

446
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: biggest kettle bell I've ever seen in my life, doing

447
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: like a farmer's walk. Is he next to the wall?

448
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: He's not human? Basically hilarious. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean

449
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 1: he's the only one that's carrying something that heavy is

450
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: at his chest. I've literally I've never seen somebody like

451
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: pick up a kettle bell that big little line. I

452
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 1: think the coolest thing in the world is that he's here.

453
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, he loves being here. Good. I've talked

454
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: to him about this a little bit. It's the he

455
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: like being able to have the camaraderie and he does

456
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: things that he sets the standard. You know. It was

457
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: the first day of the offseason programming. Michael Bronckers comes

458
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: into his press conference and says, yeah, a d had

459
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: us basically induced us all on the D line to

460
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 1: do an extra workout today. I love it. Right, when

461
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: your best players are like that, I mean, you're you're

462
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 1: always going to be somewhere around the top as far

463
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: as winning exactly. I don't mind guys that don't show

464
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: up that are great in September, the mercenary types. Just

465
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: as long as you're not disruptive and taking the guy

466
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: that should be here with you. Sure, that's the bother.

467
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: That's the thing that bothers me. Um. I don't have

468
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 1: to be here. I'm going to be in great shape.

469
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that. Yeah, but the two and three guys

470
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: that are following you really need to be here a lot, right, Yeah, right,

471
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: And so that I think is definitely the difference with

472
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: him being here. And it's awesome to see because his

473
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 1: teammates gravitate towards him as they should and his personal guy.

474
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Speaker 1: And the interesting thing is that when we said pay

475
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: them way back, remember those shows, and we said, Pam,

476
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: your money's safe with him. He's here, they know that, yeah,

477
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: And they knew that. It was just a matter it

478
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: was a matter of when night if always when you

479
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: have a guy like that, And I think when you

480
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: talk about a team that has a kind of expectations

481
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: that the Rams have, you know, this is a team

482
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: that has Super Bowl aspirations. This is the time where well,

483
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,479
Speaker 1: the championship they were in the Super Bowl last Yes,

484
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: you're right, You're right, championship aspirations. So when you have

485
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: your guys who are here and they help set the standard,

486
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: I kind of think that helps manage those expectations internally

487
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 1: because you have to have a day by day attitude.

488
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: That's the way the Rams got to the Super Bowl

489
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: last year. Well, it puts pressure on your coaching staff

490
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: when you have guys like that here. You know they're here,

491
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: they need help getting to where they need they want

492
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: to go, which is to be a chance. So you're

493
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 1: gonna have to keep improving on the coaching side as

494
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: well as the playing side. Yes, I think you know

495
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: we and I'm sure you've answered this question. Probably is

496
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: maybe even more than I have, because you're on Twitter

497
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: more than I am about the Super Bowl hangover. And

498
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: why I'm not concerned with it, it's because what you

499
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: just mentioned that ends a Super Bowl hangover. Yeah, yeah,

500
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: he's looking forward to Now you think he's looking backwards

501
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: working that hard. No, I think he's looking forward to

502
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: tearing somebody's head off in nineteen. So yeah, I mean

503
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 1: that's why I don't really concern myself with that hangover.

504
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it's possible with the way this team

505
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: has led and who's doing the leading. Now. Everyone has

506
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: to get better. Everybody has to a what do you

507
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: call that, You have to assume responsibility for how you

508
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: played and on improving. Everyone has to right. Yes, yeah,

509
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: but this is why I don't worry about a Super

510
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: Bowl hangover at all, because people are accountable in this

511
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: building and it starts from Sean McVay and goes all

512
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: the way down. And I mean even on the personnel side,

513
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: you have less sneed where he's accountable, and that trickles

514
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: all the way down. I think that's part of why

515
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: you don't get the Super Bowl hangover that you might

516
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: have on some other teams. The attitude here is just

517
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: very different, no doubt, no doubt. So I mean I

518
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: keep hearing these little soundbites from Sean McVay saying like

519
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: he wished he wouldn't had had prepared so hard for

520
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. See, that was an interesting article that

521
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: came out of Sports Illustrated. Andy, I think I know

522
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: where he's going. Yeah, yeah, sometimes you overthink it, yes, yeah,

523
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: I remember nothing wrong with it, all right. I've talked

524
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: to players about this before. Sometimes you prepare so much

525
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: that you start seeing ghosts. Yeah, and you start going

526
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: back to different things and you're like, well, they may

527
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: do this, they may do that. I need to be

528
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: prepared for this that in the third and instead of

529
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: just doing the things that you would normally do a week,

530
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: tweak because you have that much study time. So you

531
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: think I need to do everything I possibly can. And

532
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that attitude in the first place.

533
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: But sometimes when you over prepare, it doesn't allow you

534
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: to see the trees in the forest. That makes sense.

535
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: You got to go through something like that to know

536
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: that about yourself, right, You got to experience. I just

537
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: I remember guys. They would tell me like, I'm gonna

538
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: hit him with this, I'm gonna spin move back, and

539
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fake spin him here in that dude, just

540
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: run right through his fricking chest and see if he

541
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: can stop you. Firs right, you know what I mean?

542
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: Why are you overthinking it so much? Just go out

543
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: and play. Do you think that that Sean McVay has

544
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: the right temperament to manage the expectations, because it seemed

545
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: like he did last year. I think this is exactly

546
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: where he wants to be and where he needs to be. Yeah. Yeah,

547
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: he's out in front, you know what I mean? Yes,

548
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: And I don't think he's the type that actually looks

549
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: back to see who's gaining. I think he looks to

550
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: get faster. You know. So year one success, Year two success,

551
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: Year three should be even better, you would think. I mean, hey,

552
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: that's been the trend the first two years. Absolutely, and

553
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: I think we all couldn't really expect what happened in

554
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: seventeen just from the standpoint of this was the worst

555
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: offensive team in football in twenty sixteen, and then it

556
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 1: became one of the best, the top scoring team at

557
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: the very least, right, and then you go into last

558
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: year and they maintain that, right, and they do different things.

559
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: What's the same guys, right that weren't very good the

560
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: previous year, the year before he got here, and then

561
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: they albl sudden got better. Todd Gurley went to a

562
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: whole new level, Jared Goff went to a different level.

563
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,959
Speaker 1: So that happened in year two. So yeah, you expect

564
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: even more growth out of those same guys going into

565
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: this season. Who do you think is a rim that

566
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: has the most to prove going into twenty nineteen most

567
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: to prove. God, I'd love to say, Aaron, really, I

568
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,479
Speaker 1: would love to say twenty and a half sacks, right,

569
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you're on everybody's radar. So he has to

570
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: prove that it wasn't an aberration. Well, you chip in

571
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: twelve this season? Who is you? Aaron Chips in twelve sacks,

572
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: which is a fantastic year. They're gonna say he took

573
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: a step back. Okay, you see what I'm saying. Yeah,

574
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: if he doesn't dominate every single drive, they're gonna say

575
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: he took a step backwards. He's not the same guy.

576
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: Just I'm just saying third thing for people to say.

577
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Um, I said, I hear you, and

578
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: I kind of think you're right. I wish I could

579
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: say Aaron, but I'm not going to because I'm not

580
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: even gonna listen to those goofballs. Those are the same

581
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: people that said he was overpaid when he started off slow, right, right,

582
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: and then he ended up with twenty and a half.

583
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: Say did you hear any more from them? No? They

584
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: were gone right. So some people even said he was underpaid, right.

585
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,239
Speaker 1: I wish I could say him, Um, just going down

586
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: the list. You know wit okay, coming back thirty seven

587
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: years old left tackle takes care of himself. Um, you know,

588
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: he's got to keep that energy for for sixteen weeks.

589
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's tough on anybody. That's stuff on

590
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: a guy that's twenty seven. You know, now he's thirty

591
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: seven trying to do it again. So he would be

592
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: the other one. Jared Goff obviously. I mean I don't

593
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: think ever Jared Goff will ever even if you beat

594
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots, will ever, ever, ever, ever be universally loved

595
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: by everybody in football that covers football. There's always people

596
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: that want to take shots at him. Yes, I would

597
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: have drafted wins or he's a system quarterback or this that, YadA,

598
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: YadA YadA. I don't think he's ever going to get

599
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: the credit due, so I'll for the block. I'll go

600
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: with Jared Goff. It's the easy one, and that's fair.

601
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: Jared Goff would be on my list. I would say.

602
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters is another one, simply because of his contract

603
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: situation where he's up at the end of twenty nineteen.

604
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: The Rams have expressed interest in extending him, but at

605
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: the same time. He's a guy that self admittedly did

606
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: not necessarily play all that well through the first half

607
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: of the season, and when to keep Talib came back

608
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 1: in December, you know, things took off and they were

609
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: all much better, especially when Talib was on the field.

610
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: But as somebody who probably wants to get paid, everybody

611
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: wants to get paid, a former first round pick, Marcus

612
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: Peters I think does have something to prove in this

613
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: particular system this upcoming year. Yeah, the whole Tied Gurley situation,

614
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: how December went, the postseason and into the offseason about

615
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: I'm not hurt, you look hurt. I'm not hurt. That

616
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: started with Peters. I remember, yeah, yeah, okay, there's something wrong. No,

617
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm fine, but you look like something's wrong. No, I'm fine.

618
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: You remember that, Yes I did so. I mean, he's

619
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: not going to tell you if he's feeling good or

620
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: feeling bad. That's just how he is, you know what

621
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: I mean. But to me watching them, you can tell

622
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: something was wrong physically. Now you're talking about Peter, Peter,

623
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: something was wrong physically. And then when when you felt great,

624
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: you could tell you were feeling great. I could tell

625
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: you were feeling great. On the field. So when he's right,

626
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: one of the best ever, when any corner is ailing

627
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: and has a bunch of injuries, especially below the below

628
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: the waist, they're all going to struggle. So I'll take

629
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: last year as a beat up, banged up year. It's

630
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: a tough injury to come back from what he did,

631
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: the calf injury, which is very similar. Actually, I was

632
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: thinking about it with Kevin Durant and the lawyers. Yeah,

633
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: it was the same kind of thing. Everybody seemed to

634
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: think that it was Marcus Peters achilles that got hurt

635
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: in that situation, and everybody's like, oh, no, no, no,

636
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: no way, he turned around. Yeah right, yeah, And the

637
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: same thing happened with Kevin Durant, And as it turned out,

638
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: Peters was able to play the next week against the

639
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, and that was even a Thursday night game

640
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: because exactly gut it out that performance. But then, you know,

641
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,239
Speaker 1: things continue to happen of course the year, and then

642
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: as he probably got healthier toward the end of the season,

643
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: you could see the kind of Marcus Peters that I

644
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: think everybody was accustomed to seeing. I thought he was

645
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: outstanding in the Super Bowl especially, Yeah, I mean what Hogan.

646
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: Had Hogan have a catch or maybe one catch, Yeah,

647
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: but nothing deep and nothing over Peters. Absolutely, I thought

648
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: he played his best football in the Super Bowl. I agree. Yeah,

649
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: just going all the way back to a guy who's

650
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: no longer here, Tremaine John. Remember he broke the ankle

651
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: or had something go wrong with the ankle and came

652
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: back too soon. And you can tell the guy who

653
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: was lumping, but you can't knock him for his guts.

654
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: He went out there for his team. I think two

655
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: players that also may have a lot to prove this year,

656
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: Joe note Boom and Brian Allen being rookie excuse me,

657
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: first year starters on the offensive line. They're not rookies.

658
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: They were in the system last year after being twenty

659
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: eighteen draft picks. But at the same time, when you

660
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: are replacing two veteran guys who were so good for

661
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: so long and Roger Staffold and then also in John Sullivan,

662
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: it's a tough task, and especially with the kind of

663
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: defensive lines that are in the RAMS division. Yeah, they've

664
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: got a lot to prove. I see that. When we

665
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: say like a lot to prove it, I go to

666
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: what you've already done and can you maintain that level.

667
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what these guys can do just yet.

668
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: I do know they're ready to start. They're big enough,

669
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: they're strong enough, they're smart enough, they've been in the system,

670
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: they know it. They can go right in and start

671
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: right now. I don't know how they're gonna play, So

672
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: we'll see, um, you know, I do know. It's it's

673
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: one hell of a standard on that old line. You know. Um,

674
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: you know Andrew Whitworth is look is used to look

675
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: into his right and seeing one guy, you know, and

676
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: as long as he's been here. Yeah, absolutely, so this

677
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: will be different. But what they start with is what

678
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: they're expecting to finish with. So there's a lot to

679
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: keep up on with these guys. But you know, if

680
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: they stay true to who they are and how we

681
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: think they're going to play, I think they'll be fine

682
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: in that old line. I really do. I agree the

683
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: way this system is, um, Jackie Slater use it. This

684
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: is old line friendly, This offense is old line friendly,

685
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: and it favors the athletic. Both of those guys are

686
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: supremely athletic. They are, Yeah, they are in that same

687
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: vein Micah Kaiser is another guy that I would point

688
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: out as somebody that has something to prove and this year.

689
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: But I mean, he isn't the same vein of we

690
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: don't know what he's going to look like yet exactly

691
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: how he's going to perform when he's on the field,

692
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. I mean, look, I hope there's

693
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: a role for him. I hope that, um, you know,

694
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: in today's NFL, with the way linebackers are played now

695
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: and the guys are asking to play linebacker, I hope

696
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: you can carve out a niche for yourself. But you know,

697
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: I would hate to get rid of all your in

698
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: the phone booth, you know, play face first linebackers in

699
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: favor of athletic guys because that's what the league is

700
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: going and lose some of your toughness. At some point, man,

701
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: it's going to be third niches or fourth and niches

702
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: and unique guys that are willing to run through that

703
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: truck to make a play. Well. I mean, that's that's

704
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: been Michael Kaiser's whole life. Yes, you know, so at

705
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: some point it's going to funnel down to his skill set.

706
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: But I hope he can grow with that spot shout

707
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: out to Michael Kayser. He's also a big Game of

708
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: Thrones fan. We're talking about Game of Thrones in the

709
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: lunch room the other It seems to be real disappointed

710
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: with this season. You know, it's just not it's not

711
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: sticking the landing. I get the story. I think a

712
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: lot of people are upset with the Denarius Targarian heel turn. Yeah,

713
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: that's not where I was upset with it, because they've

714
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: set that up throughout the course of the entire season.

715
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: My issue was more with the execution of how they

716
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: did it. And I know we're talking about an episode

717
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: that some people may not have watched. It roasted. No,

718
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Yes, they are getting roasted by Queen Danny. Actual.

719
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: The problem was, and I'm just gonna do this in

720
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: the last episode. I didn't have a problem with her

721
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: just going and bring all the people in terms like

722
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 1: everybody was like, that's not her character, that's not her character.

723
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: They've been setting up her character to do that, at

724
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: least over the course of this season. They've been kind

725
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: of banging us on the head with it. Thematically. My

726
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: issue was people that are mad are the ones that

727
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: buy WrestleMania tickets. Maybe you're surprised by that. I guess

728
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: my issue was more how they made her. Do you

729
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: have the heel turn? Yea, because she didn't go after

730
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: Searcy in the Red Key. I thought that when she

731
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: was standing there on the dragon, sitting there on the

732
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: dragon like she won, the bells were ringing, everything was over.

733
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: I thought she should have flown straight into Searcy, had

734
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: the dragon like rip up the red keep, and then

735
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: she goes Jacares and just flames the ever living You

736
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: know what out of Cercy. Sarcy deserved a better death

737
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: than like getting fallen on by some bricks. Some bricks

738
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: fallen on her. She's one of the best villains in

739
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: television history. This woman blew up the entire septem with

740
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: green fire. Wait can I count her with something? Yes?

741
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: The greatest Starfleet commander of all time is James T.

742
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: Kirk Okay, Captain Kirk. Yeah, do you know how he died? No?

743
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: He fell? Come on, well it wasn't that disappointing fell? Yes? Absolutely,

744
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: that's what I'm not surprised right right, So to me,

745
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: it's you know, and if if Danarius does that, she

746
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: flames um Sarcy because she's mad at her killing her

747
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: BF and the episode before then it's like, man, I

748
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: just killed her, bleep it, I'm killing all you wo

749
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: And then that to me would have made more sense.

750
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: But you know what do I know, I'm just no.

751
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: Just look, it's never gonna end the way you wanted.

752
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: I guess you're breaking bad ended more in a more

753
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: satisfying way. I'm interested to see how they stick this land.

754
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: Did you really like that finale? I did, like like

755
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: love it like love the finale it was. It was satisfying.

756
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: That's the way you're not. I mean the only way

757
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: that because Jesse was freed, you know, Walt had to die.

758
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: The only thing that's ever ended like well for me

759
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: has been Endgame. Yes, absolutely, everything else has been really disappointing.

760
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: As our producer John emphatically agrees, everything else has been

761
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: a disappointing. Yes, But I think that's part of the

762
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: reason why, like this, this Game of Thrones is so

763
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: disappointing because I just saw Endgame, and I just saw

764
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: how they wrapped it up, and it was so satisfying.

765
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: It was awesome three hours on a huge budget, and

766
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: they've been setting it up for ten years. Wait a minute,

767
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: setting it up? Oh please. HBO also has a huge budget.

768
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: I watched these documentaries that they've got on, like the

769
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: HBO HBO go app right, So it's like forty minute

770
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: documentary on like how they build on they build the sets,

771
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: on how they do all these different things. And their

772
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: budget is astronomical, and they also have hours and hours

773
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: to do this. They're making eighty to ninety minute episode.

774
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: How long did you have between Infinity War and Endgame?

775
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: Like a year? Okay, well, you're talking about a show

776
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: that's on weekly. This it's going to be a little

777
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: bit more difficult for GBO had two years to get

778
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: this season done. I heard the same stuff about the Sopranos.

779
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 1: How do you end? How do you end the show?

780
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: Everyone loves it's it's hard exactly. It's very hard to

781
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: stick a landing. But I don't know that HBO is

782
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: doing it. The last thing that I do want to

783
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: talk about h HBO's OTAs OTAs. Yes, activity, you're right,

784
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: they start next week. They are still voluntary, but it

785
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: is phase three. Sorry. Oh come on man, they are voluntary. Okay,

786
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: so if somebody's not here, it's not the worst thing

787
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: in the world. You just can't find them. It's it's okay,

788
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: you know what voluntary means in the NFL. I do,

789
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: But okay, Also I know what the definition of the

790
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: word voluntary is. So I know that what coaches say

791
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: in what they believe and that they have to believe.

792
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: And I've heard this from Sean McVay, Freddy Kitchens and

793
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: Cleveland whatnot. Well, would you like the player to be there?

794
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, but it is voluntary and they have

795
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: the right not to. And especially if it's somebody voluntary

796
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: to be cut too. Oh, come on, Matt, if it's

797
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: but if it's somebody like an Aaron Donald. You know,

798
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: we always say production equals solerances. Yeah, you don't need

799
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: to worry about Aaron Donald not being here. If you

800
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: need to learn the playbook. You're a rookie, you okay?

801
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: Are you telling me that let's just take ninety percent

802
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: in the league that's here now and going to OTAs

803
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: you think they all want to be there? Probably not?

804
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: Oh okay, just making sure, but just making sure. Should

805
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: you be there? Absolutely? But do you think they want to?

806
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: I mean, so it's it's voluntary. It is voluntary by

807
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: the letter of the law. It is voluntary, right, yes,

808
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: So that's the way we have to talk about it. Okay, okay,

809
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: what do you expect to see during Oh yeah, you know, Um,

810
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: I guess the continuation of this program, especially offensively, you know,

811
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: watching the receivers get better, watching them improve. Um, you

812
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: can go man for man if you want, but just

813
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: watching how guys come back, seeing what their bodies look like.

814
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: You know, who put on weight, who lost weight, who

815
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: looks leaner, who worked on their skills, you know, just

816
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: all that stuff. I can't wait to see how much

817
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: guys have changed from one year to the next. Yeah,

818
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: especially the guys who were the rookies last year. How

819
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: have they grown and you know, developed and improved and

820
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: things like that over the course of this year. This

821
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite times of the year because

822
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: we get to be out here and we get to

823
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: watch everything. Right, and when they are putting in the

824
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: game plan for week one in Carolina that is not

825
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: the case, and I completely understand why. But for now,

826
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: this is all about fundamentals. This is about teaching. This

827
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: is I think it's great stuff and I feel privile

828
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: is that I get to watch it. Privileged easy for

829
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: me to say, and it's fun to see how things develop.

830
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: Michael Brockers comes to mind. Remember his transformation, big huge,

831
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: wide body, and then all of a sudden he looked svelt.

832
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: Loves to get leaner and leaner and leaner. Now he

833
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: looks like a basketball player, but he's still close to

834
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds, you know what I mean. So just

835
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: watching those guys change, and then seeing guys that look

836
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: lost even when they were on the team, or timid

837
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: that would stay in the back during the team breakdown,

838
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: let me see if they can filter up to the front.

839
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: Or maybe this guy's breaking down the huddle this time,

840
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: you know. Let me see how you mature from year

841
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: one to year two or three to four. Is there

842
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: a big difference in your attitude when you're facing a

843
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: contract year? Are you now more engaged? All that stuff

844
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: starts here in Ota, it does. It's about communication. I

845
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: was talking to Nickel Roby Coleman the other day and

846
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: that's what he was saying. You start to develop your

847
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: communication at this point, see who works well together, how

848
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: you work well together, and you can start to develop

849
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: a wise of everything. You know, you understand why the

850
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: system is the way it is for somebody like a

851
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler who came in in the middle of the

852
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: year last year, where it was mostly all right, you're rushing, go,

853
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: get on the edge. Go. You have a better understanding

854
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: now probably of why the system is the way that

855
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: it is, So that to me is one of the

856
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: better things about this time of year. Yeah. Absolutely, I

857
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: can't wait to see him go backwards and dropping in practice,

858
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: you know, working on that stuff, your skill set. I mean,

859
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: going forward, you can see the guy is a natural

860
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: pass rusher and he's aggressive. But let me see you

861
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: actually backing up. Let me see those skills, Let me

862
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: see you, let me see your coach working on you

863
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: with those skills, no doubt about it. Jay Matthews too, Yeah,

864
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: you don't. For a guy that they say is uh

865
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: do they say he's on the wrong side of thirty.

866
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: I guess anybody that's beyond thirty is on the wrong

867
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: side of thirty. Yes, yeah, I mean that's all that is.

868
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: I'm still on the right side of thirty for a

869
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: couple of years. I'm not looking forward to being on

870
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: the wrong side. And just look, I bet you dollars

871
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: to donuts you wouldn't be able to tell once he

872
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: hits the field. Yeah, Junior Sale was going into year

873
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: eighteen or some whatever number he was on in the teens,

874
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: and he was outpacing the rookies in mini camp repeatedly.

875
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 1: I expect the same with Claim Matthews, Well, Claim Matthews,

876
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth, those guys. There's a reason why they've been

877
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: doing it for as long as they have. Eric Wettell

878
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: also comes to mind as somebody who's a veteran. It

879
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: will be interesting to see how, especially with wettle and Matthews,

880
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: you know they are new on this team, how had

881
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: they integrated into the fold in different packages, different things

882
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: like that during ot as and something we'll be able

883
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: to see because you can go eleven on eleven in

884
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: those periods seven on seven you also get to see.

885
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: I love that, just to see what the offense is

886
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: trying to get the defense with fun little chess match

887
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: between Sean McVay and Wade phill Ups, how they can

888
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: do different things. One of my favorite memories from last

889
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: year's otas's when they're on the far field over there

890
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: and Sean McVay calls a screen on the right side.

891
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: Kelly Robie Coleman. Of course, he's great at defending screens,

892
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: was terrific at it in seventeen. And so he calls

893
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: the screen. They run it over to the right side

894
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: and kell Robie Coleman's right there. He breaks it up

895
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: and McVeigh yells, Robie, I just wanted to see if

896
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: you still got it. That's the kind of stuff you

897
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: get to see it OTA, So that's fun. I'm trying

898
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: to picture a chess match with McVeigh and Waite Phillips.

899
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: It's like like an actual one. Yeah, Like McVeigh wants

900
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: to play speed chess with the clocks and Way just

901
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: takes the clock and throws it that. It's probably exactly

902
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: the way that that would go. Anything that you are

903
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: excited to see their OTAs maybe matchups players, maybe playing

904
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: a different position. Well I mean in a RAMS uniform.

905
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I came to grips with that one.

906
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: I saw him in Baltimore. Okay, Okay, he's somewhere else.

907
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: It's gonna take me a while to like process there's

908
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews with horns on his helmet. Yeah, yeah, that's

909
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: gonna take me a minute to process that. Um. So

910
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: that that will be number one. Um, something we talked

911
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: about in the last BTh I believe Josh Reynolds, you

912
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: get all three receivers back at some point, where does

913
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: he fit and how does he fit? So? You know,

914
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: I thought he came on pretty strong towards the end

915
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: of the year, and I bet he wants more. But

916
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: now you're gonna have to, you know, chase down some reps.

917
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: So how does that happen? So just stuff like that, Yeah, yeah,

918
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: And of course Blake Bortles the new backup. UM, I

919
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: can't wait to see him sling it as well. Yeah,

920
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: especially what is he going to look like in preseason?

921
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure we will be seeing a lot of Blake Bortles,

922
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: you know, whether that is in the first preseason game

923
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: to all the way to the last, no doubt. You know,

924
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: that's gonna be his job to truly show off what

925
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: he's learned m and his skill set. There something else

926
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: that you brought up when we were texting, who's a

927
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: guy you were just dead wrong about based off of

928
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: what he looked like in the jersey and the shorts.

929
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: O blee, it absolutely blew it? Who did you hit

930
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: on a couple of years ago. Bradley Marques. Yes, you

931
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: hit you were you were hot on Bradley Marques way

932
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: before anybody else was kind. I was, yeah, you were.

933
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: Um yeah, that was That was the diamond in the

934
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: rock in St. Louis. The guy that got me and

935
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: he got everyone. And I think he just signed a

936
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: contract two days ago. Hemingway, Tomarrok, Hemingway. Oh tight end, yes, yes,

937
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: the tight end, the six foot nine whatever. He was

938
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: moving down the middle of the field. Wow, that looks great. Wow,

939
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: that looks pretty Oh he just broke his leg. Oh

940
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: he's gone. We never saw him again, pretty much. Yeah. Um,

941
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: so that guy I was dead wrong. I told you

942
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: I thought this guy was going to be a star,

943
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: especially in this offense. Yeah, you know, he's one of

944
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: those guys. I would not say that I was wrong

945
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: on this person, but I think that he sold a

946
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: lot of people based on what was going on this

947
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: time of year. Brian Quick, Oh yeah, you know. Yeah.

948
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: And it's unfortunate because my first year covering the team

949
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: in fourteen, like he was having a strong start to

950
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: the season and then he tore up the shoulder and

951
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: then kind of nothing was ever the same from that

952
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: point on. But that was another guy where you always

953
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: call him the gto. That's in the garage yep on blocks.

954
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: It's it's like one month from being like a show car,

955
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: you know. It's it's so frustrating, but it's too expensive

956
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: to get rid of, you know what I mean. And yeah, also,

957
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: you keep trying to fix it and it's just not there,

958
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: but you can't get rid of it, right right, Yes,

959
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: exactly the saga. Yeah, yes, the Rams don't have that

960
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: kind of wide receiving corps anymore. No, no, any party shots, no,

961
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: not at all. Good luck finding something else to love

962
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: once Game of Thrones signs off. You know, it's been

963
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: really good on HBO, Barry, that's the Assassin show, right, Yeah,

964
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: Bill had Bill Hayter. It's okay, it's great. I've been

965
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: catching up on that. One of the most recent episodes

966
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: Ronnie Lily, I think was the name of it. One

967
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: of the best half hours of television I've watched in

968
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: a while. Are you a Tarantino fan, Big Tarantino? Okay?

969
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: Have you seen The Hateful Eight, the extended version? Yes, yes,

970
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: I saw it in seventy millimeter. I saw that when

971
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: we were still insane. It was December twenty fifteen. No, No,

972
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: the extended version. There's an extended extendion. He measured into

973
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: a mini series four parts. It's awesome. I've heard about this. Wait,

974
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: how long is each part? Uh? Forty five minutes and

975
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: there's four parts? Like it's it's four episodes. But said

976
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: that would make it three hours, wouldn't it. Uh, Well,

977
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: it might be a little bit more per episode, but

978
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: it's extended, so there's more dialogue, there's more of everything.

979
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: What I loved about that movie is it was basically

980
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: like a play. Yes, so the Samuel L. Jackson like

981
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: monologue that he right before the intermission came when I

982
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: saw it in the movie. That was one of the

983
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: best things. There's a few more monologues in there. Oh yeah,

984
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: there's there. What do you call that? When the character development?

985
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: You'll love it. You need to check that out. I

986
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: do you need to check that out? I've got no

987
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: more parting shots. I think this was enough. That was

988
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: a parting shot. My parting shot was what I said

989
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: about Game of Thrones. So I said it earlier in

990
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 1: the episode. He's quitting. He's tapping out, tapping out. All right, everybody,

991
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: thanks so much for listening to this episode of Between

992
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: the Horns for DeMarco far I'm Miles Simmons. We will

993
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: see you next time.