WEBVTT - The OTP | Brian Callahan Pt. 1 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.919 This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:21.239 Plan on paying less for the coverage you need with 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:24.759 Farm Bureau Health Plans. Get a quote today at FBHP 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:28.480 dot com with Amy Wells. I'm Mike Keith and this 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:33.080 is head coach Brian Callahan. Welcome back to the OTP. Good. 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.440 We wanted to you know before we let you go. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.240 You've experienced a lot of questions, maybe once or twice, 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:43.240 or three or four, seven or eight times, and so Mike, 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:44.680 you have the list of the. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:48.440 List of the questions that you have gotten most often. 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:51.160 Let me just run them down here. 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:53.360 I probably you can probably play this game too. 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.240 Eric, what's it like to work with your dad? By far? 0:00:56.320 --> 0:01:00.040 Number one? How is will Levis doing a variety of 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.960 offensive line questions? A lot of questions about Traylon Burke's, 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.040 A lot of questions since he got here. A lot 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.720 of questions about Tyler boyd Yes players not participating in 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.760 voluntary workouts and your opinion on that. Wanting to know 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:17.240 where Tavandre a sweat is and is he okay? A 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.240 lot of questions about how you're going to handle play calling. Yeah, 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:25.320 seems like every reporter who comes into town wants to 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:29.960 ask the play calling question, yes, and then the what's 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.600 your message, what's your message leading into the draft, what's 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.800 your message going into OTAs, what's your message in mini camp, 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.480 what's your message into the off season, what's your message 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.160 into training camp. I mean, these are all legitimate questions. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.560 I mean it's very much part of the job. And 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.000 I guess that's the thing you were getting to is 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:48.720 this is the job. 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.440 This is the job, and just maybe something you didn't 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.480 think about as much when you're taking that job is 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:59.480 that you're going to get the same question hundreds of times. 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.640 That's been the one that's definitely been one that you 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:04.720 just don't think about. You think about media, and you 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:06.360 have to do all these it's all part of the job. 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.840 But the repetitiveness of I feel like I've answered the 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:13.200 same question a lot, and then you also feel like 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.480 and this is no you know, don't disrespect. It's just 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.160 different when you talk to the national people versus the 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.840 local people. And so the national people all ask very 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:26.480 very very similar questions, and the local guys and women 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:31.200 that cover the team are much more aware of some 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:33.720 things and so they don't ask the same ones like 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:35.480 they kind of know what questions have been asked them, 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.920 but you get the same national persons a lot, and 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.680 so it's I never thought about that, but I've noted 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.280 as my media availability went along the spring, I was like, 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.919 I wonder what question I have to answer about trailing today? 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.200 I wonder how many times I've talked about my dad? 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.200 It happened a lot. It happened a lot. Did I 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:54.040 leave any out? 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.600 All those are the ones we actually Beryl and I 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:58.840 went through them this morning and we tried to come 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.480 up with all of it. But that's that's the That's 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:06.280 the part of this is even though you're the most 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.959 prepared first time head coach I've ever been around in 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:12.440 any sport. Well, I've I've just never seen anybody with 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:16.240 the background you have and what you were allowed to 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.920 do coming up and obviously your dad having been a 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.560 head coach. But there's still stuff you don't know, and 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.880 that just like your your first year when you just 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.400 go off to college, there's stuff people just can't tell 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.639 you that you have to experience. 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.680 That's great, that is correct. I felt like I've done 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:35.720 this long enough, and I've been around football long enough. 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.160 And as I've said before about just the access I 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.600 was allowed in Cincinnati with Zach and how much he 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.480 allowed me to see behind the curtain a little bit, 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.160 where not a lot of you know, head coaches allow 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.000 that sort of access to the day to day and 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:52.360 so I felt like I was probably more prepared than 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.840 most people would be for the for the job, and 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:58.040 it's it's certainly paid off. I feel that, you know, 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.680 especially early on, early on, I felt it where there 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.240 was some things that had I not been exposed to 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.160 that stuff would have probably thrown me a little bit off, 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:10.240 just because you don't know sure. And then there's still 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.880 things even even to this day that come up that 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.480 you're like, well, I didn't think about that, that one, 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:17.560 that one's new. I wasn't really I wasn't quite ready 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:21.760 for that particular situation. But it's been fun though. That 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:23.520 the the part of it it's been cool is that 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.040 I haven't felt it's never felt overwhelming. I've never felt 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:30.080 like I was unprepared. If that makes sense, It totally sense, 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.280 and it just I've I feel like one of the 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:37.400 strengths of my personality is I can generally take things 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.720 in stride, and I think you have to be able 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.039 to do that as a head coach, because there's so 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:46.120 many things that you don't anticipate that can come up 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.240 in the course of a day that you woke up 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.279 in the morning. You never thought that would be something 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.160 you'd be dealing with that day. So yeah, it's a 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:57.120 it's a it's a wild job, it really is. It 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:57.760 is fun though. 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.560 When you're thinking about being a head coach one day, 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.279 one of the things I'm sure that crosses your mind 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.560 is putting together your staff and who I would have 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:09.080 as this coach or that coach and this thing. After 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.880 you have those thoughts, I would assume because the way 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:14.799 I would do it, that's my only frame of reference, 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:17.520 is that it would almost exist in a vacuum, like 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.480 I want my wide receivers coach to be this person. 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.680 I want my coordinator to be this person. Are you 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.440 then surprised when you get them all together and it's like, oh, 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.919 these are this is working. These guys all get along 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:33.880 really well. It is that maybe a line that you 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.720 don't always draw when you're just imagining what you will 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:37.360 be like as. 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:37.760 A head coach. 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.160 This is actually a fun conversation. I was just having 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.120 this conversation with Dinard the other day is he's you know, 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.880 you hit this time of year and your coordinator around 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:47.200 the league, this is kind of the time of year 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.920 you prep for potential interviews, whether it's at the end 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:52.400 of the season or two years from now, you just 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:53.840 this is the time of year where you can take 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.279 a minute and step away from your job and actually 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.120 focus on maybe what could be coming your way and 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:03.800 have a long conversation about the staffing process. And it's 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.200 I think the one that makes or breaks a lot 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.120 of guys in the interview process. And I think if 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.560 you ask Grant about how I presented my vision for it, 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:15.880 I think it was probably one that resonated and it 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.640 felt prepared. But the thing about the staff I'll say 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.200 this is that I spent a ton of time thinking 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:25.600 about the people and I never got locked into one person, 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.400 which I think some people do you get this is 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.240 I want this guy and this guy only. I had 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.160 four or five guys in each spot that I felt 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.599 comfortable with. But I spent also a ton of time 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:41.680 thinking about how they fit with their personalities. With the 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.200 guys that how it would all work. I spent a 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.000 lot of time thinking about that, and I think it 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.160 paid off. Because I think if you you around our 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:50.840 staff and as you guys have gotten to know them 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.720 and you see us interact on the field, it's a 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.080 it's a really fun group of guys to be around, 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.760 and they're really good at their job. But I just 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.960 think that that so that I was very intentional with 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.680 hiring in the staff and the type of people I wanted. 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:09.880 I focused more on personality traits than I did specific people, 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:13.320 and I think that helped. I think that helped helped 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.680 me build a really a staff that I'm real proud of, 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.800 and as we've gotten together, I'm even more excited about 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:20.400 now than I think I was when I hired them. 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.360 After I watched them all work for an off season, 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.240 it's a fantastic coaching staff. 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:28.360 Well what made me think about that is we've had 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.400 the opportunity to get to know a lot of the 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:34.280 assistant coaches and coordinators within the staff, and every single 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:38.160 one of them has mentioned that they genuinely enjoy the 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.680 other people that they are coaching with. They actually are 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:44.040 friends with and like working with the people they're working with, 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.920 and you don't always get that within a coaching staff, 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:51.440 especially people offering it up like that. So easily. How 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:55.160 important is it to have that chemistry within the coaching staff, 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:58.600 because I would guess that it is just as important, 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.600 if not more important, then having the chemistry within the 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:02.280 football team. 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.920 I think they go together. I think when you hire 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:10.360 a staff that that's cohesive and connected and is all 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.160 pull in the same direction and and wants to be 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.360 a part of it, and guys that are unselfish in 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.560 the same sense that you're looking forward from your players. 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.160 My first goal when I hired the staff was I 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:26.280 wanted our staff to embody what I wanted our team 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:30.320 to look like, how we interacted, how we communicated, what 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.360 type of personality, guys have, the mixes of personalities. And 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:36.760 I felt like if I hired the right people, and 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:40.760 I hired good people, that the team would feel that 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:42.640 and they would also when they walked in the building 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.720 interacted with the staff, they would feel that we were 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:49.520 operating under the same really tenants that I wanted our 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.839 team to operate under. And so all this comes together 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:53.240 and all the players come in the building, and it 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.280 really worked exactly like I hoped it would work. For 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.840 the players to see and feel our interaction, and just 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.360 like you with kids, you try to model behavior, and 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.840 so the hope and the goal was that our coach 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:06.920 yourself would model the same behavior we want our team 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.839 to have. And you know, to the first this offseason, 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.120 it's it really worked about as good as I could 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.920 have hoped for. And I think that it was it 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.920 was intentional, though I wanted to. I spent a lot 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.160 of time trying to get the right people and the 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.640 right mix of personalities so that our players would feel 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:23.040 the same thing. 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.360 Well, they like you and they like each other. So 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:26.120 I think it's work. 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.120 Yeah, so far, so good, So far, so good. Amy 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:32.200 made a great point about the staff cohesion and the 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.320 fact that we've had a chance to meet them, and 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.679 every head coach doesn't do that. I mean, you've certainly 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:42.680 known some that the assistant coaches basically don't talk. They're 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:45.839 in the background. The head coach is totally in the foreground, 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:50.440 and that's it. So you obviously made the decision that 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.680 it would be different because we've gotten a chance to 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.880 talk to all of these people, men and women, up 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.880 and down the football staff throughout the last five months. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.880 And then the other thing too is Dinard Wilson is 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:06.320 a rising star in the business and it seems like 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.679 correct me if I'm wrong, But you are very comfortable 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.640 with his star being shown in a way maybe like 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.319 Zach Taylor was with you in Cincinnati. Oh. 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.080 I think that's probably a good comparison. I think that 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.240 I think Zach and I have very similar personalities, and 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:26.079 I think that's why we work so well together. But 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.480 Zach's Zach does not have. Zach is like the most 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.320 egolest person I've ever been around, and I think that 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:36.679 takes a tremendous amount of self confidence, and I've always 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:40.280 admired that about him, and I think that at the 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:41.800 end of the day, you want to be around a 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.839 bunch of people that don't really care about getting the credit. 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:46.480 I don't care who gets the credit. I just want 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:48.400 to have a good football team that puts a good 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.400 product out there and we win games and people are 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:54.360 excited about it. Whoever gets the credit, whoever gets the shine, 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.880 it doesn't matter to me. I really don't care about that. 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:02.400 And I encourage guys to be put out there. I 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.480 want people to see what kind of coaches we have, 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.480 and and I hope that Dinard gets to be a 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.760 head coach in this league sooner than later, because I 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.679 think he'll be a fantastic one. But to me, it's 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.800 it's always I think good leadership and as always about 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.160 trying to help prop other people up. And I think 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:19.320 that I learned that from Zach. He was great to 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.840 me and it allowed me the same access for that 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.360 and hopefully you guys feel the same way here. But 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.800 the credit to me doesn't really matter. I just want 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:29.840 to have a good football team and a good coaching staff. 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.320 And as guys get credit and we play well, then 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:35.920 I hope they get all the glory, don't I don't 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:36.240 need it. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:40.800 Why is Dinnard Wilson such a rising star in the 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.559 coaching business, Well, I think first and foremost he's got 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:48.600 great technical knowledge of defensive football, both in the in 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.400 the front, in the run game. And then his expertise 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.720 obviously is the secondary. Been a part of really good 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.520 productive secondaries, and that's what wins in the NFL these 0:11:57.600 --> 0:11:59.800 days is you better be pretty good against the past, 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.920 and everywhere he's been, they have been. So that's the 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.320 first kind of the baseline is he's an excellent football 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.000 coach on the technical side of the schematic side. And 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:09.720 then he's got a presence about him as you see, 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.040 he's uh, he's really great in front of a room. 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:15.839 He's got a he's got a command, and he's got 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:21.480 a very unique way of being direct and honest and 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:26.760 truthful in a way that doesn't offend people. If that 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:28.480 I don't know if that's the best way to put it. 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.320 But he can get up in front of those guys 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:31.679 and he can coach him hard, and he can be 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.160 critical and they walk out of the room loving him 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:35.280 more than they did when they walked in. 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.200 And it's just it's just part of his personality. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.719 And he's but that's what a great teacher does. I 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.480 would agree with that. Yeah, I would agree with that. 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.400 You think about your teachers in school and the people 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.199 who could say, I want to see you do better 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.440 here because you're capable in this way. You know, you 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.480 would walk out and go, Okay, I don't want to 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.040 disappoint mister or missus so and so when. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.719 This that's probably a good comparison for him. But he's 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.000 and he's and then on top of that, he's hyper competitive. 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:03.720 I love competing against him. In practice. It doesn't take 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.880 much to get him riled up. All you got to 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.440 do is to have Tyke run over there and start 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.000 yelling at him about the uh some pass completion, and 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.480 then oar gets mad, and then it's just it's competitive, 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.520 and he's he's a he's a he's a top level competitor, 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.520 and that that part the players feel as well. 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:17.880 And so. 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:22.160 Everything about how he how he goes about his business, 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.280 how he leads the coach, his coaching staff on defense, 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:28.360 how he leads the players, how he teaches, all those 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.319 things are going to lead. I mean, he's he'll be 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.160 a head coach in this league sooner than later. If 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:34.800 if we have any of the success that I think 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.040 we're capable of having, that's something that's probably coming for 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.200 him pretty quickly. So I hope it does. He's he'll 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.240 he'll he'll have earned it and be deserving of it. 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.080 All of those traits, though, that you were just describing, 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:52.800 when you're talking about modeling, lack of ego, competitiveness, being 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.559 held accountable, held to a high standard, those are all 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.600 things that are existing within this coaching staff, and with 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:02.240 a roster that has some guys with some established reputations 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.959 already on it, seeing those traits has to be helpful 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:06.520 on the field. 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:11.120 So far, it has. I felt that from our team. 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:13.959 I've seen that in their actions, the way they work, 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.400 the way that they come into the building every day 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:20.040 are all things that echo all the things that I 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.200 feel about our coaching staff. I've seen in our players, 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:25.120 and I think they appreciate it. I think they appreciate 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:29.480 the style, they appreciate the messaging, and I think they 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:33.760 believe in what we represent both as teachers and as people. 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:39.040 And I think they see the potential in the roster 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.480 in their teammates. And then you have the scheme parts 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.600 of it in all three phases, and I think you 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.680 got a bunch of guys that believe in what we're doing. 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:50.400 As you have come into this, Who is a player 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:55.040 or players that you didn't really know who has been 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.400 a pleasant surprise from the leadership standpoint, on the field, 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.600 in the weight room, whatever. Give me a guy or 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:03.960 guys bit jump out in that way. 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.840 Yeah, I'll give you two that that really have jumped 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:13.000 out to me. I think that arden Key has been fantastic. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.720 I love everything about how he practices and works, and 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:20.120 his personality is infectious. He's got some, you know, real 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:23.080 leadership traits on top of it, and he's just been 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.360 really fun to be around and and I think he 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.520 provides a lot of energy to the team and I 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.520 think they enjoy he I mean he never stops. You 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.920 hear arden all day long, and I enjoy that. 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:34.400 I like it. 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.080 I think it's a great thing. And then Jack Gibbons, 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.480 I think has really stood out to me is you know, 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:44.600 he's he's a hyper competitive and he's really taken on 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.520 a leadership role on the defense and just I didn't 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.160 know anything really about him until I knew who he was, 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.840 but I didn't know much about him, and this over 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.880 this process of the spring has been eye opening to me. 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.680 I mean, I think he's really you know, he's kind 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:01.480 of one of the first ones that starts talking. I mean, 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.920 he's he's got some he's got something to him, he's 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.600 got an edge to him. And I think that he's 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.440 been one that I've been really enjoyed seeing him kind 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.480 of bloom a little bit in a leadership role. 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.800 He keeps getting better, he has since the day he's 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:18.800 been here, and people kind of underestimate him. They underestimate 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:22.480 his athleticism overall, and then you just you watch You're 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:23.720 like that guy's pretty good. 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.160 That's how he's come across to me, is I just 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.280 I know you got I watched him play a little 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.320 bit obviously last year when he got thrust in there 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.680 and played pretty well, and you just you know, his 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.400 his track where undrafted, free agent, all these things that 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.440 he's kind of come overcome to get to the spot, 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:45.080 and you go, man, that's been pretty impressive. And then 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.680 every day it's like, oh, it's pretty good, and you know, 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:49.360 he makes play on the ball, and then he's he's 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.160 in worries, he's where he's supposed to be, and there's 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.920 just there's a consistency that he's starting to develop. And 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:56.800 I think that that goes a long way too, where 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.280 he's sort of the same He's got the same energy, 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.360 the same guy every day, and then he still continues 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.160 to execute what's asked of him schematically. And I think 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:06.960 that that's how guys play a long time in this league. 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:11.000 We left one out who's going to wear the green dot? 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:17.440 We left one that's a great one. Yeah, we left 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.240 that out. Could Jack Gibbons be the guy who wears 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:21.000 the green dot? Yeah? 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.000 I think I think all those guys. I think him 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.920 and him and Kenneth, I think both are fully capable 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.359 of of doing that job and being uh in that 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.159 communicator role. And I think I've said before too that 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.639 it's it is uh, it's defensive. Communication is still an 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.600 eleven person job. They don't all just come from one person. 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.000 They all talk at different points and they talked to 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.880 safeties and corners talks. So there's there's a lot more 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.399 communication that goes on than just the guy that gives 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:48.840 the call, you know, before the snap, which is which 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:50.240 is great. You got to have that guy too, But 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.040 there's a lot more to it than that. But yeah, 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.040 there's a lot of that was a that's a heavy 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:55.960 topic of conversation around here in Green Bay. 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:57.040 Disappointed in us. 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.320 Yeah, I'd left one off. 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:03.840 Yeah, and that's it. 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:05.320 I'm sorry. I apologize. 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.240 O TP, That's okay, you found it eventually. 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.399 We hit it four minutes in. 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:16.200 Who are you or maybe a couple of people? Are 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.560 you most excited to see finally put pads on? 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:22.720 Ah, that's a good one. I am very excited to 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.600 see Devandre Sweat put pads on. That was always a 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:30.400 good one. Will he be available? I was looking here, 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:34.320 that's that's number six? Yeah him. I think seeing JC 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.080 and pads is going to be fun. He's had a 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.040 really nice, really nice offseason, and just to see a 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:42.359 guy of his size and strength actually be able to, 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:44.879 you know, come off the ball and hit and do 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:48.800 things in linemen do will be fun. I'm really looking 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:52.680 forward to seeing those guys I think are really gonna 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:54.600 be fun players to watch play in training, camping in 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:56.920 the preseason. As we get started, those guys, I'm I'm 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:00.440 excited to see. And you know, I think there's there's 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.760 gonna be some fun battles on the offensive line on 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.080 the right side, which will be you know, pads will 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.160 come on and that'll be very telling and revealing of 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.000 of what that will look like of the course of camp. 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.639 So the first day of pads is always kind of 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.960 my favorite day of the football calendars. It's like, okay, football, 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.280 It's we're back. We're playing football again. So but those guys, 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.280 I think for sure are the ones that that i'd 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:21.639 be I'm looking forward to seeing. 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.399 Before I went down the Green Dot rabbit hole, I 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:28.679 was going to follow with you. You mentioned Jack Gibbons 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:30.560 as a player that you've had a chance to watch, 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.200 and arden key that these guys who have really done 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:35.080 a good job I wondered if you would say John 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:35.880