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Speaker 1: dot com with Amy Wells. I'm Mike Keith and this

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Speaker 1: is head coach Brian Callahan. Welcome back to the OTP. Good.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to you know before we let you go.

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Speaker 2: You've experienced a lot of questions, maybe once or twice,

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Speaker 2: or three or four, seven or eight times, and so Mike,

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Speaker 2: you have the list of the.

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Speaker 1: List of the questions that you have gotten most often.

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Speaker 1: Let me just run them down here.

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Speaker 2: I probably you can probably play this game too.

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Speaker 1: Eric, what's it like to work with your dad? By far?

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Speaker 1: Number one? How is will Levis doing a variety of

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Speaker 1: offensive line questions? A lot of questions about Traylon Burke's,

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Speaker 1: A lot of questions since he got here. A lot

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Speaker 1: of questions about Tyler boyd Yes players not participating in

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Speaker 1: voluntary workouts and your opinion on that. Wanting to know

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Speaker 1: where Tavandre a sweat is and is he okay? A

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Speaker 1: lot of questions about how you're going to handle play calling. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: seems like every reporter who comes into town wants to

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Speaker 1: ask the play calling question, yes, and then the what's

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Speaker 1: your message, what's your message leading into the draft, what's

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Speaker 1: your message going into OTAs, what's your message in mini camp,

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Speaker 1: what's your message into the off season, what's your message

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Speaker 1: into training camp. I mean, these are all legitimate questions.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's very much part of the job. And

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Speaker 1: I guess that's the thing you were getting to is

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Speaker 1: this is the job.

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Speaker 2: This is the job, and just maybe something you didn't

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Speaker 2: think about as much when you're taking that job is

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Speaker 2: that you're going to get the same question hundreds of times.

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Speaker 3: That's been the one that's definitely been one that you

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Speaker 3: just don't think about. You think about media, and you

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Speaker 3: have to do all these it's all part of the job.

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Speaker 3: But the repetitiveness of I feel like I've answered the

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Speaker 3: and this is no you know, don't disrespect. It's just

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Speaker 3: different when you talk to the national people versus the

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Speaker 3: very very similar questions, and the local guys and women

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Speaker 3: they kind of know what questions have been asked them,

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Speaker 3: but you get the same national persons a lot, and

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Speaker 3: so it's I never thought about that, but I've noted

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Speaker 3: as my media availability went along the spring, I was like,

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Speaker 3: I wonder what question I have to answer about trailing today?

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Speaker 3: I wonder how many times I've talked about my dad?

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Speaker 3: It happened a lot. It happened a lot. Did I

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Speaker 3: leave any out?

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Speaker 1: All those are the ones we actually Beryl and I

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Speaker 1: went through them this morning and we tried to come

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Speaker 1: up with all of it. But that's that's the That's

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Speaker 1: the part of this is even though you're the most

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Speaker 1: prepared first time head coach I've ever been around in

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Speaker 1: any sport. Well, I've I've just never seen anybody with

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Speaker 1: that just like your your first year when you just

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Speaker 3: That's great, that is correct. I felt like I've done

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Speaker 3: And as I've said before about just the access I

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Speaker 2: When you're thinking about being a head coach one day,

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Speaker 2: one of the things I'm sure that crosses your mind

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Speaker 2: is putting together your staff and who I would have

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Speaker 3: This is actually a fun conversation. I was just having

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Speaker 3: this conversation with Dinard the other day is he's you know,

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Speaker 3: I think it was probably one that resonated and it

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Speaker 3: I focused more on personality traits than I did specific people,

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Speaker 3: and as we've gotten together, I'm even more excited about

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Speaker 3: After I watched them all work for an off season,

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Speaker 2: Well what made me think about that is we've had

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Speaker 2: especially people offering it up like that. So easily. How

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Speaker 2: important is it to have that chemistry within the coaching staff,

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Speaker 2: because I would guess that it is just as important,

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Speaker 3: I think they go together. I think when you hire

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Speaker 3: My first goal when I hired the staff was I

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Speaker 3: and they would also when they walked in the building

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Speaker 2: Well, they like you and they like each other. So

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Speaker 2: I think it's work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so far, so good, So far, so good. Amy

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Speaker 1: fact that we've had a chance to meet them, and

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Speaker 1: every head coach doesn't do that. I mean, you've certainly

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Speaker 1: known some that the assistant coaches basically don't talk. They're

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Speaker 1: and that's it. So you obviously made the decision that

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Speaker 1: and down the football staff throughout the last five months.

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Speaker 1: And then the other thing too is Dinard Wilson is

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Speaker 1: a rising star in the business and it seems like

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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, But you are very comfortable

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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor was with you in Cincinnati. Oh.

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Speaker 3: I think that's probably a good comparison. I think that

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Speaker 3: I think Zach and I have very similar personalities, and

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Speaker 3: I think that's why we work so well together. But

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Speaker 3: Zach's Zach does not have. Zach is like the most

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Speaker 1: Why is Dinnard Wilson such a rising star in the

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Speaker 3: Everything about how he how he goes about his business,

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Speaker 2: All of those traits, though, that you were just describing,

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Speaker 3: So far, it has. I felt that from our team.

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Speaker 1: As you have come into this, Who is a player

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Speaker 1: He keeps getting better, he has since the day he's

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Speaker 3: That's how he's come across to me, is I just

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Speaker 1: We left one out who's going to wear the green dot?

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Speaker 1: We left one that's a great one. Yeah, we left

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Speaker 3: I think I think all those guys. I think him

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Speaker 3: there's a lot more to it than that. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: Disappointed in us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd left one off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's it.

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Speaker 2: Who are you or maybe a couple of people? Are

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Speaker 3: Ah, that's a good one. I am very excited to

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Speaker 1: Before I went down the Green Dot rabbit hole, I

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Speaker 2: So Titans fans fan.

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Speaker 1: Brian Callahan, thanks so much for joining us on the OTP.

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Speaker 3: It's always a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of fun to come here at the end

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Speaker 1: of the off season program. Here we go, well, you know.

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Speaker 2: We're here to put a bow on things and then

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Speaker 2: shoot you forward. That's what we do.

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Speaker 1: Here for Amy Wells and coach Brian Callahan. I'm Mike Keith,

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Speaker 1: thanking you the OT people for joining us for the

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Speaker 1: o TP. Welcome to the Big show where the Lenson's

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Speaker 1: going ever boughten nose. It's a