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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of I Heart Radio. Hi Zarin,

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Speaker 1: what's up, Elizabeth? You know it's ridiculous? Oh do I

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Speaker 1: I got one for you. In the nineteen seventies and

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Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties, gay men who weren't out they had

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Speaker 1: this phrase they would use to identify each other in public.

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Speaker 1: In the phrase was they were friends of Dorothy Well.

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Speaker 1: Eventually the US military learned of this phrase, and at

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Speaker 1: the time it was not kosher verst soldiers to be gay,

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Speaker 1: so they investigated. In the nineteen eighties, the Naval Investigative

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Speaker 1: Service attempted to find what was the meaning of this phrase,

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Speaker 1: and they decided this Dorothy person was real, so they

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Speaker 1: tried to find Dorothy. They spent years looking for Dorothy.

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Speaker 1: Obviously they never found her. US military military intelligence. I've

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Speaker 1: heard there is something about it being a oxymoron sometimes

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Speaker 1: perfect example. Wow, I would love to see like the

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Speaker 1: case files on that, right, and who did they interview,

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Speaker 1: Like we found a Dorothy in Chicago. We think can

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Speaker 1: maybe her well, I think, if you know, maybe people

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Speaker 1: would throw them off the scent by being like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know exactly who it is. She was here the

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Speaker 1: other day, She's in Kansas City right now. She got

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Speaker 1: out there collecting the gays. So it's like, where in

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Speaker 1: the world is Carmen san Diego but with Dorothy Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: the tracker. That's a good one. That is ridiculous. Um.

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Speaker 1: You want to know what else is ridiculous? Installing a

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Speaker 1: functioning solid gold toilet as part of an art exhibit,

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Speaker 1: only to have it stolen. Yes, I am both Elizabeth

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Speaker 1: Dutton and Zarin Burnett. I contain multitudes and this is

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Speaker 1: ridiculous crime. A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists

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Speaker 1: and cons It's always murder free and ridiculous. You damn

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Speaker 1: right the crime I want to talk to you about today, Zaren.

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Speaker 1: I called you here today. Thank you for calling to

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Speaker 1: discuss this. Um. It was actually suggested to us by

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Speaker 1: a listener named Kendra Braun. Oh, thank you, Kendrew. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she flushed out a good one here, deny yourself that day.

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Speaker 1: I needed it anyway, Zaren, you're an artistic guy. I've

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Speaker 1: been called that that in Free Spirit and other worst things.

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Speaker 1: Lucy Goosey, you like art. I do love art. We've

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Speaker 1: established that completely. You like going to museums. I love

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Speaker 1: going to museums. It's one of my favorite places in

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Speaker 1: the type of person who go to a museum and

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Speaker 1: wear like a Picasso shirt, like someone going to like

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Speaker 1: absolutely hivarious. I love you. I'm like, well, I can't

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Speaker 1: then you get tackled by security like no nos, seriously, Um,

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Speaker 1: what is the most outrageous work of art you've ever

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Speaker 1: I mean like in terms of like outsized outrages like

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Speaker 1: believe you saw it, something that's just like, you know, incredible,

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Speaker 1: or or just out there like very avant garde. Um, okay, recently,

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Speaker 1: they improved, but it wasn't like improv like it's theater,

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Speaker 1: So have you ever been totally shocked by an art exhibit?

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Speaker 1: Marcel Duchamp. Correct. Oh, yeah, he had the very famous

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Speaker 1: he does installations, sculptures. Um. There's a really kind of

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Speaker 1: also Catalan got very duchamp esque. He once taped a

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Speaker 1: And so he makes America as this like, you know, hey,

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Speaker 1: gold as usually talked about in the ounce. Right now,

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Speaker 1: was appraised at six million dollars, so he added two

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Speaker 1: It's a gold toilet. It's a gold toilets, solid gold,

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Speaker 1: two hundred twenty seven pound toilet. Now I think Benjamin

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Speaker 1: The Guggenheim in New York has Cohler toilets in its restrooms,

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Speaker 1: and so Catalan had a copy of the exact same

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Speaker 1: Made so it's not even a fancy toilet, No, made

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Speaker 1: it a gold and um. It was installed in one

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Speaker 1: it down with no fragrance, colors, oxidizers. Are they doing

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Speaker 1: It's awesome, baby, it's art. Um. Two days later, September

422
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: fourteenth through, around five in the morning, the thieves strike,

423
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: so they only got two days in there. Two stolen

424
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: cars roll up, they got fake plates on, and they

425
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: forced their way through the front gates and into the courtyard.

426
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: Three robbers, each wearing dark clothes and balaclavas. They get

427
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: out of the cars and then leave to getaway drivers.

428
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: That's of them broke into the palace and made their

429
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: way to the toilet. Now, the toilet is in a

430
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: very small room with wooden doors. It's like a little

431
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: wooden yeah, it's I don't know if you have these

432
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: where you live. There's a small room with a toilet

433
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: in it the water closets. Yes, I am familiar. So

434
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: that's what they had their thanks. Okay, so it's in

435
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: this small room with wooden doors. They don't just jimmy

436
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: open the door. They busted open the door, like they

437
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: broke They literally broke the door down in the hand.

438
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: It looked like some like be a baracous move, just

439
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: punching right through the wood and then ripping the pieces

440
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: out the Now the door looks like seriously, it is

441
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: not a substantial door and they just straight up smashed

442
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: through it. I'm going to put pictures of the crime

443
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: scene on our Instagram. They're amazing. Now I know that

444
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: Lord Edwards said he didn't think that they needed to

445
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: guard it because it was connected to the plumbing, because

446
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: you know that's so difficult. I thought that that was

447
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: just showman's bluster this whole we don't need to guard it. No,

448
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: they honestly apparently did not guard it. Like there didn't.

449
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: There's not even like a decent lock. When you look

450
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: four million dollars of gold in one place, you're like,

451
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: we don't need to cover that. It's like it's had

452
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: it's head a fecal matter on it wants so they

453
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: like when you see the door, you're I can't wait

454
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: for you to look at these pictures. I can't wait.

455
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: There's like not even the lock. It looks like you

456
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: don't see it is such a it's just the bathroom

457
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: door basically like balsa wood and a paper clip. Could

458
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: be going to a nice home when they have that

459
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: bathroom near the front door, that's like just a toilet

460
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: and it's like one of those doors is kind of

461
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: what I'm imagining where it's like it's like a three

462
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: quarter door, you know what I'm talking about, quarter door,

463
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: like not a full sized door, like a like a

464
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: what are those the country doors like farmhouse doors where

465
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: they have the top half the swings open in the

466
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: bottom of the sense you should put in your bathroom.

467
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: That would be an amazing bathroom door. You can be

468
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: talking to you can be like cooling a pie while

469
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: you're that's my pie cooling door. Come on, now, I

470
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: got to keep my eye on it. And then you

471
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: have to go in and out of the window to

472
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: get it because you don't want to disturb the pie.

473
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: So that's the bathroom at your house. Um back to

474
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: Lord Edward, Lord Edward, so again, it's like this like

475
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: really flimsy door. Um, there's no real decent lock. Whatever.

476
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: That's weird. That's weird to me. I'm gonna file that weird.

477
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 1: You would think too, that in a place like that

478
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: that breaking in would be kind of hard to do.

479
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking getting into the house would be different. How

480
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 1: did they get through the front gate they had? They

481
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: had a gate there was metal and slid and was

482
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: like all like modern had to drive through it or

483
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: either deactivate it. Then you said all the reports that

484
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: they forced their way through, so like they were just

485
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: like pushing through and then they but they got two

486
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: cars in and they somehow get into the building. Interesting

487
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: and anyway, I'm getting irritated here. So, um, do you'd

488
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: think that it would be hard to get in there?

489
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 1: I mean there are millions of dollars worth of art

490
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: in there, aside from Mauritio's work and respect the home

491
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: of Winston Churchill. I would imagine that it actually, as

492
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: much as it weighs, the gold toilet is probably easier

493
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: to get out of there than some of those like

494
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: ten ft by fifteen foot oil paintings. I got runned

495
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: in there. So the thieves break down the door like

496
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: the Kool aid man, and then they angrily removed the

497
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: toilet itself like the aid man. And they obviously, since

498
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: they don't care about destroying the door, you can guess

499
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: they didn't shut off the water. They weren't like, oh,

500
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: let's be let's be conscientious. They just sawed off the

501
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: bottom and so there was really bad water damage and flooding.

502
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: So they're like, the water is the water. The fingers

503
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: up to the palace and like ripping the toilet out again.

504
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: Two seven pounds Abo Jackson stand there and somehow they

505
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: make it out to the vehicle. Like maybe one of

506
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: them brought a skateboard and they put it on, and

507
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: that actually works really well. I've used that with memory foam,

508
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: moved houses with that. Yeah, and it's smart. Um. Maybe

509
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: they just maybe they had like a big dude who

510
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: just tucked it under his arm and was like these

511
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: are a secret weapon. He watched I need a big

512
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: dude like that on my hight team. Yeah. Um. So

513
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: they loaded into one of the trunks of the cars,

514
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: the boot, and then they just tootled right off. I say,

515
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 1: everybody tootles when they drive. Um. And now there were

516
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: rumors at first sounds like the like the exhausted a

517
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: European car. Like it's like, because there's so I love it.

518
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: If you even said that in Detroit and Auto Meeting,

519
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: they would like throw you out. Next time I see

520
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 1: some some guy in like a lifted Ford three fifty

521
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: and be like Chancelling just tootling around in that scooting

522
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: around town. It's tootal are in there. Then he just

523
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: like he can't see me because the grill is so high,

524
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: and then he runs me over. He's like what was that?

525
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: And then I'm just spared on the pavement. Tootles um.

526
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: People thought at first that maybe the whole thing was

527
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: a prank, like a Banksy self shredding art thing. Ah,

528
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: there we go. I knew Banks' becoming because don't forget

529
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: a year prior to this, that's when Banks he's girl

530
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: with a balloon iconic mural. He made it into a

531
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: painting sold at an auction at Sotheby's for a million

532
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: pounds and then do you know, yeah, as soon as

533
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: the hammer came down, the auction ended, the winning bid

534
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: was finalized. The painting starts unexpectedly lowering itself into a

535
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: shredder built into the bottom of the frame and then

536
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: it stops halfway, so there's just like shredded painting hanging below. Now,

537
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: some of these called it a moment of instant art

538
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: world history. So they got what they wanted out of that,

539
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: and then the piece was later renamed Love Is in

540
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: the Bin and sold at auction in October for eighteen

541
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: point five million pounds. Are you serious? So it went

542
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: from a million? They cut it up. Cut that bad

543
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: boy up eighteen point five. I need to get some scissors.

544
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: Some people have too much money. Yeah, Like some people

545
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: are just straight up suckers. I mean, if they could

546
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: be like, oh, that story is so amazing, how amazing

547
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: story hanging it if it didn't go to a gallery,

548
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: it's hanging in someone's home, and they're just like, I'm

549
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: so clever, this is so at wink. Anyway, I hope

550
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: that that tex c Eo enjoys that brief moment with

551
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: art in their life. So there are some people that

552
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: brought up thinking is he pulling a bank? SI? Here

553
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: up in the value and the notoriety of this piece. Um,

554
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: because he's already a prankster, a provocateur. No, here's what

555
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: Catalan had to say quote, yes, give it to me.

556
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: When this morning I was informed about the robbery, I'm

557
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: not going to do an Italian accent though, so pretend

558
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm an Italian. Yeah, we come on now. When this

559
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: morning I was informed about the robbery, I thought it

560
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: was a prank. And it took me a while, after

561
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: a few checks, to come to the conclusion that it

562
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: was true and it wasn't a surreal movie where instead

563
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: of the jewels of the crown, the thieves went away

564
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: with a bloody toilet. He's saying bloody, like I had

565
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: to correct in my ear. I was like a bloody toilet, dear,

566
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: And he said, I always liked heist movies and finally

567
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: I'm in one of them. Sir, do we need to

568
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: tell you what a heist movie is as opposed to

569
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: a heist in reality. He's all blurred with him, and

570
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: then he said, dear thieves, please, if you're reading this,

571
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: let me know how much you like the piece and

572
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: how it feels feels to pee on gold. Okay, so

573
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: let's think about that. Does he really want to like,

574
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: what have you got? A hundred thousand people paid on

575
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: gold in New York? Like, so what at this point. Also,

576
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: it's like that, Why am I getting more and more annoyed?

577
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: It's the British schoolboy in this of it all. We're

578
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: like the whole like I tinkled on. Yeah, I'm like, okay,

579
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: erase the people staying hand Royalty. I don't know what

580
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: is this? What are we doing here? Bro? We are

581
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: getting really amped up. Let's take a break. I'm gonna

582
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: let you know what happens next, Zaren Elizabeth. Let's talk Turlett.

583
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: The police. I got two for it. Obviously they got

584
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: cracking on trying to solve the case of the stolen

585
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: golden toilet? Did they send out the flying squad? They

586
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: flew right into it. No, remember you remember? No, I

587
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: couldn't find any reference. But that's London, because this is Oxford.

588
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 1: This is in that close enough. Isn't like Oxford? Pretty

589
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: isn't like a suburb of London. No, I don't know

590
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: Oxford obviously, clearly I thought Cambridge and Oxford. Aren't they

591
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: really they're not there. It's not I know that historically

592
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: they were in their own towns, but I thought London

593
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 1: group planet. I have no idea, just be honest, I

594
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: don't even know. I England's real. I think it's mostly

595
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: something that started in Disney movies and then they just

596
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: expanded it and let's make it this into a real place.

597
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: It seems fun. It's a good idea, England. It's a

598
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: theme park anywhere. The theme park we all know where

599
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: the theme park on this planet is exactly Detroit. I've

600
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: never been to Detroit. That's what I understand. It's Gary, Indiana.

601
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: You gotta stay out of Why are we sorry? I'm

602
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: sorry Gary, Like we're going to have to run like

603
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: an apology thing of like all the different locations. I'm

604
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: sorry Cleveland. I'd like to apologize to Fort Worth, Texas.

605
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't know why I said that about Palm Springs.

606
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: I offer my sincere apologies to the entire state of Maryland. Tacoma, Washington,

607
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: please forgive me for both what I said about you

608
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: and Seattle. We love everywhere. Let's just say that I do.

609
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: I love people. I love places that I love world peace.

610
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: You want to leave the house, You're like, I love people,

611
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: I have places. Let's do this, So yeah, that's me anyway.

612
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: I love everybody. Sorry, um where was I Okay? So?

613
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: Please got cracking? Please get cracking. You're right, that's what

614
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: I said. Um Now, I can't find a lot about

615
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: the investigation itself in my research, which what did last

616
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: more than three minutes? The investigation, I will tell you

617
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: that much I did. I did a lot of research

618
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: on this, and I couldn't find anything about the actual investigation.

619
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: I was kind of hoping that someone like the Daily

620
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: Mail would come through with like leaks, because they usually

621
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: will tell you all the insight. This is like Wheelhouse.

622
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that well the details are serial reporter out there.

623
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. The gold Crapper, I can't tell you.

624
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: Seven people were arrested in connection with the theft. Seven.

625
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to list them off for you. I don't

626
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: have names, but all this stuff, there's no government names

627
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 1: for us. Now, they wouldn't I wouldn't tell me. Thirty

628
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: seven year old man from London. He was arrested on

629
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: suspicion of handling stolen goods. A sixty eight year old

630
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: man from Eversham was arrested on suspicion of burglary. Okay,

631
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: so part of the team, we got our fence and

632
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: part of the team on A thirty six year old

633
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: man from Cheltenham arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to burgle

634
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: to a planner, a thirty eight year old woman, a

635
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: thirty seven year old man and a thirty six year

636
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: old man, all three of them from Oxford. They were

637
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: arrested on suspicion of conspiring to commit a burglary other

638
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: than a dwelling. So also high Steam and planner, I guess.

639
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: And then a forty five year old man from Kent

640
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: was arrested on suspicion of burglary. Nice a real hard man. Yeah,

641
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: So the sixty eight year old and forty five year

642
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: old now seven people. However, all of them were eventually

643
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: released and none of them were ever charged. Wait a minute, right,

644
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 1: so you steal a four million dollars worth of gold,

645
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: six million dollars worth of art, and the English police

646
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: go out and they try to find you. They find

647
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: seven people, and they go, okay, you guys are all

648
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: clearly have enough evidence supposed to charge arrest, yeah, and

649
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: not enough to charge enough Okay, enough to bring in

650
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: them in for further police investigations. And then they said,

651
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: you know what, We're not going to charge you, even

652
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: though we have suspicions. Of your conspiracy. Is there something

653
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: about the richness that they want this to go away?

654
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: Something is fishy? Yeah, I mean they seems like things

655
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: not adding up. I'm going to go back to the

656
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: actual crime itself, the fact that they obviously have surveillance cameras.

657
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: If they can say that these two cars came up,

658
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: they had the fake plates, they could see the people

659
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: getting out. So there's security cameras outside. I'm going to

660
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: guess they're inside too. I would guess that they How

661
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: did they again, we go back, we went over this.

662
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: How did they get into the first place? I mean

663
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: I could how did they get a two seven pound

664
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: golden toilet out of that joint without being seen? You're

665
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: telling me that there are no workers there at five

666
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: in the morning. Also, I imagine there is some security

667
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: staff for this policy. There has to be. And if

668
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: somebody like you know, runs into the gate or deactivates

669
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: the gate, either one either if they electronically deactivated or

670
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: they just actually drove crashing through it, imagine that might

671
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: draw some attention. Was there anything like a distractionary tactic

672
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: like they shut off the power they fire? I found

673
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: not that I found as public information. So we have

674
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: that fishiness and then they dude, maybe arranged this, like

675
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: could the artists, because I'm saying is that they thought

676
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: it was a hoax for a while. Maybe the cops

677
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: discover and they don't want to let on. I don't know,

678
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. But doesn't it doesn't

679
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: add up right, We're gonna have to crack this case.

680
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep working on it. So we should get

681
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: d c I pickles, pickles um. But to this day,

682
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: the toilet has never been recovered and they'll never find no,

683
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: because the cops think that it's most likely been dismantled,

684
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: melt melted down. That thing's long gone. Yeah, that's no

685
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: longer a toilet. What that means is it's somewhere out

686
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: there are people wearing jewelry made from toilet gold. It's

687
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: like Penny's. Yeah, someone has a necklace or like a

688
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: wedding band made from gold. That's some museum goer once

689
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: used when they were some other kind of goer. I

690
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: just heard someone referencing this, and so forgive me. This

691
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: is not a fact I know offhand. I did not

692
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: read it, but they were referencing it, and I want

693
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: I meant to go look it up. So maybe you

694
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: guys can look it up, and you could look it

695
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: up and we'll all look at you guys. Let's just

696
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: me sitting here and Dave. I'm talking. So I met

697
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: you and Dave. You guys could like look this up

698
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 1: and correct me on this. Dave usually good catching my

699
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: everything is. The point is that apparently all the gold

700
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: that's ever been mined in the history of gold mining

701
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: could fit in an Olympic size swimming pool. Wow, I

702
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 1: didn't say. I don't know how that could be real.

703
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: It would be true. Yeah, that doesn't That doesn't seem

704
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: to add up, but that was what I was referenced.

705
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: Let's just say it's true. There it is, I'll fact

706
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: check it. Correct. Um, So someone's wearing toilet gold and

707
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: you know that's that would take up a good portion

708
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: of the Olympic sized pool. So apparently two d and

709
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: fifty metric tons of gold is how much we're talking about.

710
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: And it follows I quote three point four two Olympic

711
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: size swimming pools could contain three point yeah, three and

712
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: a half Olympic size swimming pools could take all the

713
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: gold ever mind off of Earth. That's pretty crazy. Yeah,

714
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 1: well I think yeah, but all that all that Spanish

715
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: gold that is all over the Catholic churches of the

716
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: world and suffused to be in South America Treasures of

717
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: South America that exist on the walls of Spanish churches. Um,

718
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: sorry Spain. Uh so this is ridiculous, all kinds of ridiculous.

719
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: What's your ridiculous takeaway here? I want one of those

720
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: horses that you put in the wall and it's just

721
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: like everything but the horses head. How great would that be? Like,

722
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: I'm just so tickled by that I have. You have

723
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: to let you understand know something. I used to live

724
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: at a place we nicknamed Sea Lab and on the

725
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: on our wall we had a one of those like

726
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: horses that kids would ride, like like a hoppy horse,

727
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: like not like copy hoards, like you know, there's an

728
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: old school. We found this old toy. We were house painters,

729
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: and so in the backyards this toy where like kids

730
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: would be on horses and they have like four springs

731
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: and the bounces up and down. You stole a kid's toy.

732
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: The house has been hasn't been abandoned. The toys in

733
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: the back we bought it from the kids and sold

734
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: it for seventeen dollars and said, kid, go get some candy,

735
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: give me the horse. So we take the hors off

736
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: the springs, and then we hung it up on our

737
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: wall and we put like some of those swim flippers,

738
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, for like your feet. That was a sea

739
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: lab right, anyway, it doesn't matter that is still up

740
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: on the wall, and sea lab which still exists even

741
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: though I've moved out, and that I would like to

742
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: add to sea lab is a horse going into the wall.

743
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: So I'm going to be calling tacting the English art scenes. Well,

744
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: get get a heist team. Yeah, they obviously they don't

745
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: care how to chase down at seven pound gold toilet.

746
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: They're not going to miss a taxi, dermy, taxi, dermy.

747
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: I just need a truck and a taxi dermy horse.

748
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: There you good to go, and then yeah, a cart.

749
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, this whole thing, this whole thing is ridiculous.

750
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: Not just because someone stole a toilet or because the

751
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: toilet was solid gold. Those things are ridiculous, right. What's

752
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: ridiculous is that such an enormous sum of money was

753
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: so casually thrown about by these people who live in

754
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: the most ridiculous, rarefied world, you know what I mean,

755
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: Like they're just so blase about it. You have an artist,

756
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: he makes ridiculous objects. He gets someone to fund the

757
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: creation of this toilet. It's not like he was like, oh,

758
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: then four million to this like foundry in Florence. Right, Yeah,

759
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: someone was like, okay, they they fund it. The ultra

760
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: wealthy in the art world are all falling all over

761
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: themselves about how clever it is and what a grand

762
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: statement it makes. And Edward right, he's saying that he

763
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: feels like a real rebel thumbing his nose as this

764
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: extreme wealth in which he exists, his extreme wealth. Yeah,

765
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: like I'm thumbing my nose and myself. He makes the critique,

766
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: but he doesn't leave it, he doesn't change it. So

767
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: his wealth and let's be real, like anyone else in

768
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: that kind of top top strata, that money comes from

769
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: ill gotten gains. Yeah, that's what my father Alwa says.

770
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: Any great fortune there is a great crime behind it. Yeah,

771
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: And so that palace comes as a result of centuries

772
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: of exploitation at home and abroad. It's on the backs

773
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: of people working, people like you and me. So I

774
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: don't feel bad at all that their fun gold toilet

775
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: went missing. In fact, I kind of love it. It's

776
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: like the despot's move, like, oh, I'm a dictator, get

777
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: to me a gold toilet, and then to turn that

778
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: into a joke it just seems really hard. Yeah, and

779
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 1: it's so anyway, there's a part of me that thinks

780
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: that the whole thing was for publicity's sake. I think, um,

781
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't made of solid gold in the first place,

782
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,959
Speaker 1: oh gold plating. What if it wasn't actually made of gold,

783
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: or what if it was made of gold, but they

784
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: always intended to kind of loan the gold, and then

785
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: this was the way to make the gold disappear. I

786
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: mean that's because I think of like kind of smaller

787
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: scale stuff, like it's not really gold and this whole

788
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: thing is listening and then it Yeah, then you get

789
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: into like is it an insurance scam? Is this a

790
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: way to like Harry Winston under the money to toilet

791
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: the money, and like what it tells me about no

792
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: one can be trusted, particularly when the topic at hand

793
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: is a golden toilet. No, that's very true. They're gonna

794
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: act that's gotta Yeah, you can beat that one. That's

795
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: my takeaway. That's a good one. So old toilet. I'm

796
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: telling you think. I don't think there's a way to

797
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: say the words gold toilet and not have to be ridiculous.

798
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: But this was more than ridiculous. Yeah, that's us for today.

799
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: You the universal. You can find us online at Ridiculous

800
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: Crime on both Twitter and Instagram. I will put pictures

801
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 1: of the golden turlet as well as the crime scene,

802
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: as well as the taxidermy horses and the kick through

803
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: door and the kick through Oh yeah, it's gonna vell

804
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: be there. Um. Do you have a tip for us

805
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: about a ridiculous crime that you want to hear about?

806
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: You want to just email say hi, I want to

807
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: confess twit Ridiculous Crime. Email us at ridiculous Crime at

808
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Other than that, tune in next time. Well,

809
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: thanks for having me, Thank you, come back again, enjoy

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00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: the toilet, See you same. Producer Dave. Ridiculous Crime is

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00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 1: avant Garde Gold's Smithy Dave Kosten. Research is by expert

813
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: taxidermist Marissa Brown. The theme song is by Italian Plumbers

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