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Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver

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Speaker 1: Oh, it is a Monday, A glorious Monday. It could

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Speaker 1: be the Ryder Cup, the NFL College football. We've got

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Speaker 1: it all. Colin right, Colin wrong? One hour from now?

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Speaker 1: What a showcase? Last night? Jmak the NFL block kicks

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Speaker 1: fifty eight yard field goals. If you get the ball last,

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Speaker 1: if you don't win, you at least cover. I remember

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Speaker 1: a time when you used to get four out of

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Speaker 1: five picks, right, I mean it was mins money in

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Speaker 1: the bank by the Jet Skis on Saturday. I didn't

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Speaker 1: even need to watch Sunday. This league is nuts and

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Speaker 1: last night is an exclamation point on nuts.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely crazy Sunday in the NFL. I mean Packers felt

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Speaker 3: like a loss.

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Speaker 1: Come yeah, So Dallas is one two in one and

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Speaker 1: Dallas feels pretty good about them, though. The Packers are

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Speaker 1: two to one in one and they think the sky

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Speaker 1: is falling. Take a deep breath, Green Bay fans, you

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Speaker 1: are still, for the third year in a row, the

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Speaker 1: youngest team in the NFL. In the last two weeks,

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Speaker 1: part of being young is you can't figure out how

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Speaker 1: to close out games against inferior teams. You just can't

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Speaker 1: figure it out. The Eagles, the Chiefs, the Rams, they

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Speaker 1: got veterans, they close out those games that playoff experience

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Speaker 1: that wisdom. Green Bay is crazy talented, but Matt Lafleur

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Speaker 1: is in the head coach, he's a chaperone. This roster

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Speaker 1: is full of twenty four to twenty five year olds,

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Speaker 1: and there's not many great corners in the league. And

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, George Pickens had a day. You go

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Speaker 1: your most talented corner to Baltimore, so you came in

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Speaker 1: a little corner light. Michaeh. Parsons did not help. Where's

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Speaker 1: the pass rush? I'm not seeing it. One sack. So

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Speaker 1: this was just two very comfortable quarterbacks, Jordan Love and

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, and they as they say, eight, They had

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Speaker 1: six touchdowns, no picks. They had all data throw. They

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Speaker 1: were both comfortable. They completed seventy five percent of their throws.

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Speaker 1: And it's the NFL. The Saints gave Buffalo in Buffalo trouble.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers got whacked by Jackson Dart fifty seven year oard.

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Speaker 1: Field goals are chip shots. Every third kick is blocked.

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Speaker 1: And yesterday and Dublin Aaron Rodgers looked twenty four years old,

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Speaker 1: So it's like it's a this is what it is.

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Speaker 1: The weather's still very good, so the offense is good.

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Speaker 1: You can throw the ball down the field. It'll get cold,

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Speaker 1: teams won't be able to throw the ball down the field,

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Speaker 1: teams will be more injured. That was just two really

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Speaker 1: good quarterbacks. Both were in incredibly comfortable, and Packer fans

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Speaker 1: can be fatalists. It's like, you're gonna win the division.

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Speaker 1: You had a bunch of bad teams coming up. Let's

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Speaker 1: be honest. You beat a Lions team with two new

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Speaker 1: coordinators that was trying to find themselves, and I got

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Speaker 1: a little high on you, and.

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Speaker 1: And then you beat the Commanders on a short week

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Speaker 1: at home and Jaden Daniels wasn't one hundred percent, and

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Speaker 1: then you play you know you're feeling yourself, and then

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter lead against Cleveland and you blow it. Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love had a rare bad pick and then last night

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Speaker 1: your clock management wasn't very good. But again, this is

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Speaker 1: the youngest team in the NFL. Now you've got a

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Speaker 1: This is September football. It's crazy. I can remember Ryan

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick of the Bills years ago tearing up September and

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Speaker 1: they gave him a huge contract. Weird stuff happens. Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton's always been a bad I had September coach. So again,

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Speaker 1: young team and this is the downside to young teams, stoicism, temperament, poise.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay still doesn't have that. Green Bay got a

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Speaker 1: know is this. They're good, they're young, they're talented, the coach,

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Speaker 1: of it. Mat Lafloor said after we're just not there yet.

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Speaker 5: I think anytime mistakes happens disappointing. Whether it's year three

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Speaker 1: For the record. I thought the Micah Parsons deal, I said,

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Speaker 1: Green Bay is pretty stacked. It's a great roster. They

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Speaker 1: delivered on the promise right, like overall not getting the

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Speaker 1: to feel great this morning. Think about this. I'm Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Everybody crapped on that Micah trade. My take is the

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Speaker 1: So Dak playing this well in the Cowboys, even without

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Speaker 1: a great spot. They have something they haven't had in year,

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Speaker 1: last night, and I'm like, you know how lucky they

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Speaker 1: They're actually significantly better than I thought. So just take

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Speaker 1: it is official. The Kansas City Chiefs are back, and

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are in Lamar Jackson's head. Lamar Jackson five

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Speaker 1: defensive injuries. Everybody's banged up. Minnesota barely could field an

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Speaker 1: and simultaneously, oh oh, I said that Jay Mack last week.

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Speaker 1: Just get Xavier Worthy back. He's a deep threat. He'll

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Speaker 1: open up the stuff underneath at exactly what happened, Juju

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Speaker 1: The defense is excellent, the coaching's the best in the league,

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Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy is all they need. In about four weeks,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get Rashee Rice back because Travis Kelcey you

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Speaker 1: But I feel like Kansas City's a bacteria that is

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Speaker 6: this game with Xavier being back in just that threat

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Speaker 6: good answers. There's a couple here and there that I

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Speaker 1: Listen, it's almost like the Ryder Cup. The Americans weren't bad,

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Speaker 1: the Europeans were better. It's almost like Kansas City. Mahomes

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Speaker 1: and Kelsey at this age isn't dependable. You got to

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Speaker 1: They're not going to be a great run team this year.

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Speaker 3: Right, regard Hey, regarding the Raiders, can you text Chip

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Speaker 1: Here we go, Colin Wright, Colin wrong, plenty of both

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Speaker 1: That is the best game offensively I have seen the

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Speaker 9: his identity. And for a coach who's won in multiple

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Speaker 9: different places to make that admission and step in and say,

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Speaker 9: you know what, We're gonna come up with a new slogan.

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Speaker 9: We're gonna say, don't let up, No mercy why did

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Speaker 9: he say that. It's because Alabama had kind of lost

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Speaker 9: its luster a little bit, it had lost its fear

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Speaker 9: that it had put into people's souls when they stepped

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Speaker 9: on the field with them, and his quarterback, Ty Simpson

436
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Speaker 9: stepped up to the podium, took full responsibility and said.

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Speaker 10: I will be better. And he's been better.

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Speaker 9: He's been one of the best quarterbacks in all the

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Speaker 9: college football. So I wonder what the Alabama fans are

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Speaker 9: saying now.

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Speaker 1: Right Listen, success is hard and it doesn't always happen quickly.

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Speaker 1: I always joke Saban lost the Louisiana Monroe's first year

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Speaker 1: and got off by Utah his second year. Now, he

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Speaker 1: took over a bit of a mess, But it's hard

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Speaker 1: to take over Alabama, the nil, the portal. You're losing, guys. Now,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about I said going into the year,

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Speaker 1: I liked Drew Aller's potential. I watched Dante Moore Robert.

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Speaker 1: If I had a number one pick in the draft,

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Speaker 1: I would take Dante Moore. That kid's composure. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you played in this league. I was blown I mean

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Speaker 1: I thought he was good. I was blown away by him.

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Speaker 4: What say you yet?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Dante Moore is climbing up draft boards faster than any

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Speaker 9: quarterback in the country right now, and it's because he

456
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Speaker 9: proved one simple thing. He proved that the tools that

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Speaker 9: he has can travel to a big time playoff atmosphere

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Speaker 9: and that his poise overcomes all of it. When you

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Speaker 9: look at Dante Moore there at the end of the game,

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Speaker 9: when they needed him the most, he went on the

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Speaker 9: play action boot leg.

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Speaker 10: We call him nakeds when you don't have a backside blocker.

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Speaker 9: He stepped up in the pocket and he hit Gary

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Speaker 9: Bryant for a touchdown. When his team needed in the most,

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Speaker 9: he stood tall. And when I watch his tape, what

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Speaker 9: I'm so impressed by is the simple fact that he

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Speaker 9: transferred from UCLA to go sit for a year at

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Speaker 9: Oregon behind Dylan Gabriel. It shows me that he understands

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Speaker 9: he needed to be developed. He understood that it takes

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Speaker 9: patience to make that happen. And what do you see

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Speaker 9: when you watch the tape. You see calm feet in

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Speaker 9: the pocket. You see him staying in rhythm, not forcing

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Speaker 9: the football to any one particular guy, but allowing the

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Speaker 9: ball to go where it's supposed to go. On each

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Speaker 9: play versus each coverage. NFL coaches absolutely love this young

476
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Speaker 9: man fourteen to one touchdown interception ratio. Eight guys in

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Speaker 9: this big time matchup caught a pass from him. It

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Speaker 9: lets you know that he's processing it well. And in

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Speaker 9: today's modern NFL, you have to be able to operate

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Speaker 9: in the pocket, but you also have to have off

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Speaker 9: schedule answers.

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Speaker 10: And Dante Moore has that.

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Speaker 9: He showed that with his ability to run, with his

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Speaker 9: ability to extend plays.

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Speaker 10: So I'm right there with you. He could very well

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Speaker 10: be the number one pick in the.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, one more college question, then I want to

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Speaker 1: go to some NFL stuff where I think you'll have

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Speaker 1: a really great perspective. So I defended Lincoln Riley. I

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Speaker 1: was at this game. I defend him scoring with a

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Speaker 1: minute fifty five left, because I think when you're on

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Speaker 1: the road, you don't get cute like if you can

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Speaker 1: get into the end zone, get into the end zone.

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Speaker 1: The bigger issue is they brought Deanton Lynn on as

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Speaker 1: a decordinator a couple of years ago, and I thought

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Speaker 1: he was tremendous and the defense is getting softer, and

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily blame the DC. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's because of the way they practice. They're now getting

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Speaker 1: pushed around by Illinois, and I know the kind of

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, Robert. I know what their nil

501
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Speaker 1: money is, and I know what they recruit that shouldn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Who do you blame? Is it this offense that maybe

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Speaker 1: at practice you don't develop toughness. But I feel like, oh,

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Speaker 1: here we go again, another Lincoln defense that can't make stops.

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Speaker 9: And I know you know this very well, Colin. You're

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Speaker 9: out there, you're around a lot, you're around the program,

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Speaker 9: and when I look at this defense, I agree with you.

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Speaker 9: I think that it's the defense that's holding them back.

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Speaker 9: Look against Illinois, they gave up twelve point four or

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Speaker 9: twelve point six yards per attempt to Luke Altmeyer and

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Speaker 9: that Illinois offense. You're not going to win in those situations. Yes,

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Speaker 9: they're getting a ton of sacks, but they're giving up

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Speaker 9: way too many big plays in the secondary. And I

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Speaker 9: was able to call their game against Michigan State with

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Speaker 9: Jason Bennetti and Alex Atlantistory, amazing crew that we have

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Speaker 9: there for college football, and they dominated that game in

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Speaker 9: Michigan State, and I agree with you. It's not the nil.

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Speaker 9: It's not that they don't have the playmakers. This team

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Speaker 9: is field with's high level recruits. But in my talks

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Speaker 9: last week with Kyle Whittingham, the head coach at Utah,

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Speaker 9: he talked about how it's almost impossible to have a

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Speaker 9: great defense when you truly have an up tempo offense.

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Speaker 9: Why because it's putting your defense out there on the

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Speaker 9: field more often.

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Speaker 10: For Utah, they average some of.

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Speaker 9: The fewest plays played per game for their defense, and

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Speaker 9: he really believes that the longer your defense is out

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Speaker 9: on the field, the more opportunities you're going to give

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Speaker 9: up in explosives, the tighter they're going to get, and

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Speaker 9: guys who aren't fresh don't play well. They say fatigue

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Speaker 9: makes cowards of us all. So I wonder if that's

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Speaker 9: a question that Lincoln Riley has to ask himself, because

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Speaker 9: at the end of the day, it all falls on him. Colin,

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Speaker 9: he's the head coach, he's the high price, money making

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Speaker 9: guy that was brought in there to make them a

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Speaker 9: championship contender. So make the decision, are you going to

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Speaker 9: go truly all the way up tempo and score as

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Speaker 9: many points as you possibly can, like we used to

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Speaker 9: do back at Baylor in the day. Or are you

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Speaker 9: going to try to play this game where you kind

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Speaker 9: of slow it down to help your defense not be

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Speaker 9: on the field as much. I think I know the

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Speaker 9: answer to that. I think you do as well. They're

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Speaker 9: probably just going to try to outscore everybody.

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Speaker 1: So I want to shift to the NFL because you

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Speaker 1: were a profoundly athletic. You could move, you could throw,

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Speaker 1: and I think Caleb has both of those. And somebody

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Speaker 1: told me years ago, they said, listen, if if you're

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Speaker 1: born with a great singing voice, or develop it at

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Speaker 1: an early age, you'll sing in the car, you'll sing

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Speaker 1: in the shower. You'll sing because God gave it to

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Speaker 1: you and it's special. And I think there's a burden

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Speaker 1: being a great running quarterback. Took Steve Young years to

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Speaker 1: develop the pocket stuff because he was so damn athletic.

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Speaker 1: And I watched Caleb and I watched Ben, and I

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Speaker 1: think Ben's a structure guy. And I think Caleb can

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Speaker 1: play in structure, but man, he's got horsepower. And go

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Speaker 1: back to your career, how do you balance well, I

559
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Speaker 1: can take off and get a lot of these first

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Speaker 1: downs with Okay, play with the coach's structure. Is it

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Speaker 1: a fight when you have the ability to move.

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't say it's a fight when you have the

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Speaker 9: ability to move, But you got to have the right

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Speaker 9: relationship between the head coach and the quarterback. So right now,

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Speaker 9: when I look at at Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 9: I feel like they're the perfect Yin and Yang. Caleb

567
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Speaker 9: is the laid back, you know, gonna wear the funny,

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Speaker 9: funny clothes and not be super high type of quarterback.

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Speaker 9: And Ben Johnson is the type of guy who's gonna

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Speaker 9: stare a hole through a sideline reporter if they ask

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Speaker 9: him a question about his offense. Okay, that Yin and

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Speaker 9: Yang to me works for them because what Caleb lacks

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Speaker 9: Ben Johnson has and what Ben Johnson lacks Caleb has.

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Speaker 9: Now when you look at the last two weeks for them,

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Speaker 9: he throws four touchdowns and literally eviscerates the Cowboys defense.

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Speaker 9: He's feeling good about himself. Well, guess what happened this

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Speaker 9: week against the Raiders. Wasn't the cleanest game, but in

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Speaker 9: late game execution, he goes and he leads his team

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Speaker 9: on a game winning drive. I still believe that Caleb

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Speaker 9: Williams is learning how to not color outside of the lines.

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Speaker 9: But they're finding ways to win games, and that's going

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Speaker 9: to make that growth process even better. The more they win,

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Speaker 9: the more success they have, the more belief they're going

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Speaker 9: to have in one another, and the more belief this

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Speaker 9: team is going to happen one another. You can see

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Speaker 9: him celebrating on the sideline and feeling good about themselves.

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Speaker 9: That goes a long way. Winning cures all in. The

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Speaker 9: Bears right now at two and two are winning.

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Speaker 1: So I listen. Aj Brown is showing to me great

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Speaker 1: patience because I mean, here really is We got to

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Speaker 1: give him credit. Like he's read. I don't care if

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Speaker 1: he's reading a book. Every time they put a mic

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Speaker 1: in front of him, he's very patient. He says the

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Speaker 1: right thing, and I think to myself, they targeted him

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Speaker 1: nine times yesterday they're trying. They got seven yards and

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Speaker 1: it worked against the Rams because the Rams could use

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Speaker 1: length and physicality. It's the only weakness on the Rams

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Speaker 1: that they don't have a kind of a physical corner.

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Speaker 1: They let Jalen Ramsey go, You're they're a little small.

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Speaker 1: They don't have that so it works. But I'm watching

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Speaker 1: yesterday and my takeaway is this is a long season.

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Speaker 1: Robert and AJ's being real patient. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: this thing. Would you consider because they're so deep, would

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Speaker 1: you consider saying, listen, we need another corner. It's just

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Speaker 1: not vital to our offense. We're gonna move AJ get

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Speaker 1: a draft pick in a corner, or do he adjust.

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Speaker 1: Put your head down and try to make it work.

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Speaker 1: It's like a marriage. It can't be this hard. You

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have to go to therapy every day. It just

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Speaker 1: feels like it doesn't fit.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's the dilemma you get in when you

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Speaker 9: have a guy like Jalen Hurts, who I do believe

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Speaker 9: is the top five quarterback in the NFL because he

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Speaker 9: makes the winning plays, and sometimes the winning play, unfortunately

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Speaker 9: for the Philadelphia Eagles, is not throwing the football to

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Speaker 9: AJ Brown, or at least throwing it to him and

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Speaker 9: not completing It's It's one of the more confusing things

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Speaker 9: that happened this weekend for me, because when their offense

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Speaker 9: is clicking, who is the guy that is really making

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Speaker 9: it go. It's not Jalen Hurts. It's honestly right now

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Speaker 9: this year. Not Saquon Barkley. It's AJ Brown. When they

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Speaker 9: put up points, AJ Brown is involved. When they have

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Speaker 9: to make a drastic comeback like they did last week,

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Speaker 9: AJ Brown is involved. So I honestly don't put this

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Speaker 9: on Jalen Hurts. I put it on their offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 9: You have to find way to get him easy completions.

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Speaker 10: I always use this analogy when we call games.

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Speaker 9: You see a team go on a fifteen play drive

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Speaker 9: and they've got a couple trick plays, and they've got

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Speaker 9: a bunch of different crazy things that they're trying to.

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Speaker 10: Make it work. And it's like in a basketball game.

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Speaker 9: You see the teams that do the thumbs down bounce

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Speaker 9: passes right and they get the open guys to the

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Speaker 9: basket and they make the easy layups. Well, right now,

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Speaker 9: the Eagles aren't doing that. They're not making the easy plays.

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Speaker 9: They're not getting him the easy screen catches, lining them

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Speaker 9: up in the slot and having them run option routes,

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Speaker 9: keeping him away from double teams, and not just putting

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Speaker 9: him on an island on the outside where.

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Speaker 10: They can roll coverage to them.

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Speaker 9: They have to find ways to get him that easy

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Speaker 9: cut to the basket where he can make the easy

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Speaker 9: layups early in the game, so you're not looking at

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Speaker 9: him in the third quarter like.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Aj, where you at. He's like, I.

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Speaker 9: Don't know, you're not getting me easy completions, Guys. I'm

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Speaker 9: a dynamic player. You see when he has the ball

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Speaker 9: in his hands, how special he is. That is the

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Speaker 9: job of the offensive coordinator. It is not the job

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Speaker 9: of the quarterback to force the ball to AJ Brown.

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Speaker 9: So we don't have these conversations on the national airways.

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Speaker 1: This is where I defend pro athletes. I can do

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Speaker 1: my radio TV thing forever. But if you're AJ Brown,

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Speaker 1: you may have six years in this league to be

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Speaker 1: a star.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And and and you know in baseball again, you can

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Speaker 1: play to your thirty six. In basketball, you know a

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Speaker 1: guy can shoot, you can stay in the league forever.

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Speaker 1: I get AJ Brown being you know, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think he's showing. I don't know. I think it's tough.

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Speaker 1: I don't think fans quite understand how hard it is

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Speaker 1: to be this gifted and have seven yards. Yeah, it's hard.

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Speaker 9: Colin would be like, uh, you know, Kobe Bryant, and

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Speaker 9: you're like, you know what, We're not going to give

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Speaker 9: him thirty shots tonight, We're gonna We're gonna give.

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Speaker 10: Him five, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 9: Like that, that's never going to work. You saw how

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Speaker 9: aggressive Kobe was when he played the game. So for

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Speaker 9: AJ Brown, my only the only reason I don't say

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Speaker 9: trade him and get him out of out of Philadelphia

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Speaker 9: is because when it comes down to it, when you

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Speaker 9: get late in the season, when you get into the

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Speaker 9: early rounds of the playoffs and potentially try to get

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Speaker 9: to another super Bowl to make yourself a dynasty, it's

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Speaker 9: not going to be about the ex'es and the o's.

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Speaker 9: It's going to be about the Jimmy's and the Joe's.

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Speaker 9: And the Eagles are a better football team when AJ

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Speaker 9: Brown is on it than they are when he isn't.

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Speaker 9: So that to me is why right now you gotta

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Speaker 9: focus on the ex's and the o's, and your ex'es

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Speaker 9: and o's aren't good enough because your best player is

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Speaker 9: not getting the football.

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Speaker 1: You're tremendous. Robert Griffin knows his college, does his college

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Speaker 1: and pro stuff. You know, may years ago at a

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Speaker 1: volume party. If I recall you and you're it is correct,

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Speaker 1: and it's great to seeing you again. I'd love to

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Speaker 1: have you on again. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 9: No appreciate you having me on, Colin, And I'm honing

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Speaker 9: to be your teammate brother.

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Speaker 1: All Right, that's great stuff, some good points.