WEBVTT - iPhone XR is a Great Value

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<v Speaker 1>Everything you need to know about the iPhone ten R.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? I'm Rich Demiro. This is Rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Depending on when you're listening to this podcast, the iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>ten R is either in stores tomorrow or it's already

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<v Speaker 1>in people's hands. And one of those people's hands is

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<v Speaker 1>reviewer Lance Yulanoff. He's been playing with the phone and

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<v Speaker 1>he joins me on today's podcast. Welcome to the show, Lance,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me. Lance is often seen on the

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan and Kelly Show. He has been covering technology for

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<v Speaker 1>two decades. And you have which color of the iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>ten are?

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<v Speaker 2>White? All?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? White?

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted something different?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I read in your review, which is on medium,

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<v Speaker 1>you wrote a definitive review of the iPhone ten R,

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<v Speaker 1>and full disclosure, I have not gotten my review unit yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did go hands on obviously the Apple event,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'll be honest, I thought that was enough for

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<v Speaker 1>me because I understand what the ten S is all about.

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<v Speaker 1>I get what the ten R is all about. But

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<v Speaker 1>you've been playing with this thing. What jumps out at you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, obviously you know it's it looks exactly like the

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the design. Wise, it looks just like the

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<v Speaker 2>Tennis and the Tennis Max. But you know you see

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<v Speaker 2>that aluminum body, the screen is there are two things

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<v Speaker 2>that really jump out and two things that are I

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<v Speaker 2>guess define this product. There's one is the screen. The

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<v Speaker 2>resolution of the screen is not as high as the

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<v Speaker 2>other devices. It's not old, it's LCD. And then on

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<v Speaker 2>the back, instead of the double camera, you have the

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<v Speaker 2>single camera, you have a single wide angle camera. And

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<v Speaker 2>these things absolutely sound like deficits, but in the end,

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<v Speaker 2>one you either don't really notice the difference on the screen,

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<v Speaker 2>and two, I'm not sure the single camera is a

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<v Speaker 2>deficit because it gives you something extra on the portrait

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<v Speaker 2>mode side.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. So realistically, you've got a seven hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>dollars device, so about two and fifty dollars less than

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<v Speaker 1>the iPhone ten S, which is kind of their top

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<v Speaker 1>of the line device. You do get the wireless charging,

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<v Speaker 1>you do get the portrait mode, you get the stereo audio,

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<v Speaker 1>you get the water resistance, you get a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>color choices. Realistically, Lance I thought it was really a

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<v Speaker 1>nice choice by Apple to give pretty much the same

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<v Speaker 1>insides on this phone as on the flagship model, which

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty rare.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I thought it was great. They didn't, especially

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<v Speaker 2>at the CPU level. So you have, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>the A twelve Bionic that is their ultimate mobile processor

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<v Speaker 2>that is on the new phones, the tens, the Tennis Smax,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought with the ten Art that you would,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, have one generation back. That's actually what they've

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<v Speaker 2>done typically with their phone line. So to put in

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<v Speaker 2>as much power inside this cheaper device was a surprise,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly a pleasant one. And it shows, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>the performance is virtually identical to the other phones which

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<v Speaker 2>I also tested.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, usually you have to make a trade off in

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<v Speaker 1>the lower price when it comes to performance, but this

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<v Speaker 1>time you don't. So it's really it's kind of created

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<v Speaker 1>a little mini problem for reviewers because generally, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone always easily says, if you want the best, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to go with the ten s, right, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the line. But in this case a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of reviewers are saying that save the two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty dollars. To the average person, you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to notice the LCD screen. You're not going to notice

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<v Speaker 1>that the bezel is a little bit thicker around the edge.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to notice that it has a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit less water resistance. You're not going to care too

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<v Speaker 1>much about the no dual camera. I mean, the dual

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<v Speaker 1>camera is nice if you ever want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get that two times optical zoom, but you only use

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<v Speaker 1>that once in a while, right, Most people just want

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<v Speaker 1>to take a picture of their friend with that blurry background,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna be able to do that on this phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's I mean, I think that's the point.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think for me, actually, I might notice the

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<v Speaker 2>lack of a two x opticals who are more than

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<v Speaker 2>others because I'm often taking the phone to an event

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm trying to get closer to it to share

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<v Speaker 2>images on Twitter. But in day to day use, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of fell in love with this single camera

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<v Speaker 2>because it actually does something that you can't do with

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<v Speaker 2>the other phones. So because they chose the single camera

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<v Speaker 2>to be the wide angle camera, I get very different

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<v Speaker 2>looking portrait mode shots. I call them more dramatic because

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<v Speaker 2>in addition to your focused subject, you've got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more of the background, which of course you can blur.

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<v Speaker 2>But so of course that helps if you're taking a

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<v Speaker 2>picture of multiple people, but it also helps just for

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<v Speaker 2>individual shots where you just get more of the atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it's really it's something unique to the ten

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<v Speaker 2>R in the ten line.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you've used the iPhone ten or the ten S,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as soon as you swipe into portrait mode,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, shoot, I just zoomed in like halfway

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<v Speaker 1>into my screen. So now you have to step back

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<v Speaker 1>to get your person in that picture. So you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>because they use the wide angle and they're also using

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<v Speaker 1>sort of an algorithm to do this, they don't, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't jump forward because it's not using those two lenses.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an interesting thought. Tell me about the three D

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<v Speaker 1>touch because a lot of folks have said, how you

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<v Speaker 1>lose three D touch on this thing? What does it

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<v Speaker 1>mean when you lose three D touch when you press

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<v Speaker 1>down on an icon? What happens?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Nothing, really, It's like you know, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Should say when you hard press, and I can.

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<v Speaker 2>When you hard press right, so you can put your finger.

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<v Speaker 2>You can if you keep your finger on an icon

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<v Speaker 2>without pressing, for example, on any of your apps you

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<v Speaker 2>go into that mode, we can delete them. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you have three D touch and you're pressing and then

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<v Speaker 2>you give a little bit of a hard press. It's

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<v Speaker 2>as if there's a depth to your press. Now it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's basically it's a trick. It's a little motor inside

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<v Speaker 2>that vibrates to make your finger think that that's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>But it gives you all these other feature so that

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<v Speaker 2>you can press and kind of get these quick quick

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<v Speaker 2>access to some features of certain apps. You get more

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<v Speaker 2>access to you know, you get the access to the

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<v Speaker 2>control panel. What you get on the ten R is

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<v Speaker 2>called haptic touch. It's it's limited to I think the

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<v Speaker 2>control panel, the lock screen, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hard pushed the camera icon on the ten R.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, on the ten S, I get take portrait, scan, QR,

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<v Speaker 1>code record video, take selfie. All those options are gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah they're gone. That doesn't it doesn't work that way.

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<v Speaker 2>So it really sort of confines any sort of haptic

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<v Speaker 2>response to this, like, you know, this small part of

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<v Speaker 2>the phone. So if you're if the ten R is

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<v Speaker 2>locked and I press down on the uh the flashlight,

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<v Speaker 2>I get that little beat, that vibration, and that feels

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<v Speaker 2>like the three D touch, but they call it haptic touch,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, and that same thing works actually on

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<v Speaker 2>the camera to access it, but this is only from

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<v Speaker 2>the locks.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, so they sort of have it, but they don't

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<v Speaker 1>enable it for the apps. The water resistance on the

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<v Speaker 1>ten R is just slightly less, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>day to day that's going to be that big of

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<v Speaker 1>a deal for most people.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how deep is your toilet? That's the question.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you really want to use your phone after

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<v Speaker 1>it's dropped in the toilet? That's the you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the question for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I you know what, I think a lot of people have.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it still works, it's still eight hundred device,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're like, I have to use this thing, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It realistically, it's the difference between two meters and one meter. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>two meters for thirty minutes on those on the more

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<v Speaker 2>expensive devices, one meter for thirty minutes on the ten R.

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<v Speaker 1>You get your choice of colors on the ten R,

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<v Speaker 1>which the colors are black, white, blue, yellow, coral which

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of pink, and then a red color.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny, I call coral kind of orange. But you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I've decided it's because I'm a little colorblind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I am too, So maybe we're just

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just mix what we what we say together. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the portrait mode, you can't take

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<v Speaker 1>portrait mode of non humans, right, So you did a

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<v Speaker 1>little experimentation with this, but you're sort of limited to

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<v Speaker 1>people's faces. That's because of the algorithm limitation, So you

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<v Speaker 1>don't you know, if you want to take these crazy

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<v Speaker 1>portrait modes of all kinds of stuff, you might want

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<v Speaker 1>to consider the ten s. Other than that, I mean, realistically,

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<v Speaker 1>the screen lance are is the average person going to

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<v Speaker 1>notice a difference in the screen on this device if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not comparing it to another device sitting right next

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<v Speaker 1>to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, if you don't have it next to it, you

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<v Speaker 2>won't notice. I had the benefit of having all of

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<v Speaker 2>these devices right next to it, and I could see

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<v Speaker 2>it immediately. But on its own, you just end up focusing.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a retina level screen, you know, it is

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<v Speaker 2>that resolution, so you're still it's still bright, it's still attractive,

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<v Speaker 2>and you really have to kind of force yourself to

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<v Speaker 2>look at the bezel and see that it's slightly thicker.

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<v Speaker 2>But you I would challenge an individual to notice that

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<v Speaker 2>without the other phones next to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So is sixty four gigs for seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty dollars, one hundred and twenty eight for seven ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>two fifty six for eight ninety nine. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>sweet spot is that one twenty eight for fifty more dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've already gone seven hundred and fifty, you

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<v Speaker 1>might as well go fifty more bucks, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. I agree that. I think that's a really

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<v Speaker 2>good point. Again, you're still saving that money. I think, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is a device capable of shooting four

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<v Speaker 2>K videos, So you know, if you know you avoid

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<v Speaker 2>doing that because that fills up that space.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, because but if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Avoid doing that and you stick with the ten ADP

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I think you'll be just fine with it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny over the years, I used to think that

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<v Speaker 2>sixty four gig avites tod be like, Wow, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>I'm never going to run out of space, And now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you know, I'm tend to be leaning into

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<v Speaker 2>the two fifty six. You know, because our files have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten larger. We're shooting tons of photos and tons of videos.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think people even realize what they're doing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And and so it fills up faster than you think,

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<v Speaker 2>and you tend to notice it when you have to

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<v Speaker 2>buy more iCloud storage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's the other thing. It's like, sure the

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<v Speaker 1>iCloud storage. A lot of people are saying you only

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<v Speaker 1>need sixty four because if you have iCloud and you

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<v Speaker 1>have that little switch on that says, you know, optimize

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<v Speaker 1>my photo storage on my phone, which means it basically

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<v Speaker 1>offloads a lot of your pictures into the cloud, downloads

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<v Speaker 1>them when you only need them when you're viewing them.

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<v Speaker 1>The reality is it's still nice to have that physical

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<v Speaker 1>space on your phone because apps are getting bigger. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, the four K video files. I like to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot everything in four K because guess what, have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever looked at your old videos, Lance from when you

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<v Speaker 1>had a VGA camera? They look like garbage on today's screens, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't believe it because back in the day

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<v Speaker 1>they looked amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Those darn flipcams.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly. So what do you think do you recommend

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<v Speaker 1>the ten R for the average person or are they

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<v Speaker 1>really do they really need to save up and go

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<v Speaker 1>with the ten S max or the ten S.

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<v Speaker 2>I recommend it, and I predict this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a huge seller for Apple. I think that people

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<v Speaker 2>between the price and the performance and those color choices,

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<v Speaker 2>which would for whatever reason, just turn people on. I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is going to be an incredibly popular phone, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I concur I agree. I think it's incredibly popular as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, the only reason you need to go with

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<v Speaker 1>the ten S or the tens Max is if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a position of content creation, you know, I really think,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you're just that kind of person that has

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<v Speaker 1>to have the absolute best that Apple has to offer.

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<v Speaker 1>But the biggest thing to me is the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they put that same processor in both phones.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like almost no sacrifice at all, and just one

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<v Speaker 2>other thing because I think it matters to people. The

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<v Speaker 2>screen glass on the front is the same as the tens.

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<v Speaker 2>The screen glass on the back is slightly different but

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<v Speaker 2>better than the original ten but lesser than the ten S.

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<v Speaker 2>So just because everybody's dropping their phone and I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's a concern.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say too when I was holding the

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<v Speaker 1>device at the Apple event. Doesn't have white the premium

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<v Speaker 1>feel of the ten S, but it has the feel

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<v Speaker 1>of basically any iPhone from back in the day, like

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<v Speaker 1>the seven or the eight right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, you know, surgical steel on the tennis

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<v Speaker 2>and tennis max is amazing, and you know it just

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<v Speaker 2>feels great. But the aluminum looks good, feels good actually

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<v Speaker 2>because it's Matt Finish. It's it's nice to hold. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel like it's gonna slip out of your hand,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think it's still good.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Lance deeling Off, thanks so much for joining me.

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter dot com slash Lance U L A n O

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<v Speaker 1>F F. He also has his review of the iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>on Medium. He says the iPhone ten R excels where

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<v Speaker 1>it counts, so you can read his whole review there.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, I will be getting my phone, I believe tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>so I will have some hands on and sprinkle that

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<v Speaker 1>across all my social media. Lance, have a great day

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<v Speaker 1>you too.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me, And if you want.

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<v Speaker 1>More information on the ten R, you can go in

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<v Speaker 1>the show notes or go on my website rich on

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<v Speaker 1>tech dot tv. I'm rich Tomiro. Thanks so much for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk to you real soon. Mhm