Speaker 1: Everything you need to know about the iPhone ten R.
Speaker 1: What's going on? I'm Rich Demiro. This is Rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Depending on when you're listening to this podcast, the iPhone
Speaker 1: ten R is either in stores tomorrow or it's already
Speaker 1: in people's hands. And one of those people's hands is
Speaker 1: reviewer Lance Yulanoff. He's been playing with the phone and
Speaker 1: he joins me on today's podcast. Welcome to the show, Lance,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Lance is often seen on the
Speaker 1: Ryan and Kelly Show. He has been covering technology for
Speaker 1: two decades. And you have which color of the iPhone
Speaker 1: ten are?
Speaker 2: White? All?
Speaker 1: Right? White?
Speaker 2: I wanted something different?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I read in your review, which is on medium,
Speaker 1: you wrote a definitive review of the iPhone ten R,
Speaker 1: and full disclosure, I have not gotten my review unit yet,
Speaker 1: but I did go hands on obviously the Apple event,
Speaker 1: which I'll be honest, I thought that was enough for
Speaker 1: me because I understand what the ten S is all about.
Speaker 1: I get what the ten R is all about. But
Speaker 1: you've been playing with this thing. What jumps out at you?
Speaker 2: Well, obviously you know it's it looks exactly like the
Speaker 2: sort of the design. Wise, it looks just like the
Speaker 2: Tennis and the Tennis Max. But you know you see
Speaker 2: that aluminum body, the screen is there are two things
Speaker 2: that really jump out and two things that are I
Speaker 2: guess define this product. There's one is the screen. The
Speaker 2: resolution of the screen is not as high as the
Speaker 2: other devices. It's not old, it's LCD. And then on
Speaker 2: the back, instead of the double camera, you have the
Speaker 2: single camera, you have a single wide angle camera. And
Speaker 2: these things absolutely sound like deficits, but in the end,
Speaker 2: one you either don't really notice the difference on the screen,
Speaker 2: and two, I'm not sure the single camera is a
Speaker 2: deficit because it gives you something extra on the portrait
Speaker 2: mode side.
Speaker 1: Interesting. So realistically, you've got a seven hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: dollars device, so about two and fifty dollars less than
Speaker 1: the iPhone ten S, which is kind of their top
Speaker 1: of the line device. You do get the wireless charging,
Speaker 1: you do get the portrait mode, you get the stereo audio,
Speaker 1: you get the water resistance, you get a bunch of
Speaker 1: color choices. Realistically, Lance I thought it was really a
Speaker 1: nice choice by Apple to give pretty much the same
Speaker 1: insides on this phone as on the flagship model, which
Speaker 1: is pretty rare.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I thought it was great. They didn't, especially
Speaker 2: at the CPU level. So you have, you know, the
Speaker 2: the A twelve Bionic that is their ultimate mobile processor
Speaker 2: that is on the new phones, the tens, the Tennis Smax,
Speaker 2: and I thought with the ten Art that you would,
Speaker 2: you know, have one generation back. That's actually what they've
Speaker 2: done typically with their phone line. So to put in
Speaker 2: as much power inside this cheaper device was a surprise,
Speaker 2: certainly a pleasant one. And it shows, you know, because
Speaker 2: the performance is virtually identical to the other phones which
Speaker 2: I also tested.
Speaker 1: Yeah, usually you have to make a trade off in
Speaker 1: the lower price when it comes to performance, but this
Speaker 1: time you don't. So it's really it's kind of created
Speaker 1: a little mini problem for reviewers because generally, you know,
Speaker 1: everyone always easily says, if you want the best, you
Speaker 1: have to go with the ten s, right, because that's
Speaker 1: the top of the line. But in this case a
Speaker 1: lot of reviewers are saying that save the two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars. To the average person, you're not going
Speaker 1: to notice the LCD screen. You're not going to notice
Speaker 1: that the bezel is a little bit thicker around the edge.
Speaker 1: You're not going to notice that it has a little
Speaker 1: bit less water resistance. You're not going to care too
Speaker 1: much about the no dual camera. I mean, the dual
Speaker 1: camera is nice if you ever want to, you know,
Speaker 1: get that two times optical zoom, but you only use
Speaker 1: that once in a while, right, Most people just want
Speaker 1: to take a picture of their friend with that blurry background,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be able to do that on this phone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's I mean, I think that's the point.
Speaker 2: So I think for me, actually, I might notice the
Speaker 2: lack of a two x opticals who are more than
Speaker 2: others because I'm often taking the phone to an event
Speaker 2: where I'm trying to get closer to it to share
Speaker 2: images on Twitter. But in day to day use, you know,
Speaker 2: I kind of fell in love with this single camera
Speaker 2: because it actually does something that you can't do with
Speaker 2: the other phones. So because they chose the single camera
Speaker 2: to be the wide angle camera, I get very different
Speaker 2: looking portrait mode shots. I call them more dramatic because
Speaker 2: in addition to your focused subject, you've got a lot
Speaker 2: more of the background, which of course you can blur.
Speaker 2: But so of course that helps if you're taking a
Speaker 2: picture of multiple people, but it also helps just for
Speaker 2: individual shots where you just get more of the atmosphere,
Speaker 2: and so it's really it's something unique to the ten
Speaker 2: R in the ten line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you've used the iPhone ten or the ten S,
Speaker 1: you know, as soon as you swipe into portrait mode,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, shoot, I just zoomed in like halfway
Speaker 1: into my screen. So now you have to step back
Speaker 1: to get your person in that picture. So you're saying,
Speaker 1: because they use the wide angle and they're also using
Speaker 1: sort of an algorithm to do this, they don't, you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't jump forward because it's not using those two lenses.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting thought. Tell me about the three D
Speaker 1: touch because a lot of folks have said, how you
Speaker 1: lose three D touch on this thing? What does it
Speaker 1: mean when you lose three D touch when you press
Speaker 1: down on an icon? What happens?
Speaker 2: Well? Nothing, really, It's like you know, I.
Speaker 1: Should say when you hard press, and I can.
Speaker 2: When you hard press right, so you can put your finger.
Speaker 2: You can if you keep your finger on an icon
Speaker 2: without pressing, for example, on any of your apps you
Speaker 2: go into that mode, we can delete them. But if
Speaker 2: you have three D touch and you're pressing and then
Speaker 2: you give a little bit of a hard press. It's
Speaker 2: as if there's a depth to your press. Now it's
Speaker 2: it's basically it's a trick. It's a little motor inside
Speaker 2: that vibrates to make your finger think that that's happening.
Speaker 2: But it gives you all these other feature so that
Speaker 2: you can press and kind of get these quick quick
Speaker 2: access to some features of certain apps. You get more
Speaker 2: access to you know, you get the access to the
Speaker 2: control panel. What you get on the ten R is
Speaker 2: called haptic touch. It's it's limited to I think the
Speaker 2: control panel, the lock screen, and that's it.
Speaker 1: So I hard pushed the camera icon on the ten R.
Speaker 1: Right now, on the ten S, I get take portrait, scan, QR,
Speaker 1: code record video, take selfie. All those options are gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah they're gone. That doesn't it doesn't work that way.
Speaker 2: So it really sort of confines any sort of haptic
Speaker 2: response to this, like, you know, this small part of
Speaker 2: the phone. So if you're if the ten R is
Speaker 2: locked and I press down on the uh the flashlight,
Speaker 2: I get that little beat, that vibration, and that feels
Speaker 2: like the three D touch, but they call it haptic touch,
Speaker 2: and you know, and that same thing works actually on
Speaker 2: the camera to access it, but this is only from
Speaker 2: the locks.
Speaker 1: Interesting, so they sort of have it, but they don't
Speaker 1: enable it for the apps. The water resistance on the
Speaker 1: ten R is just slightly less, but I don't think
Speaker 1: day to day that's going to be that big of
Speaker 1: a deal for most people.
Speaker 2: Well, how deep is your toilet? That's the question.
Speaker 1: And do you really want to use your phone after
Speaker 1: it's dropped in the toilet? That's the you know, that's
Speaker 1: the question for me.
Speaker 2: I you know what, I think a lot of people have.
Speaker 1: I know, it still works, it's still eight hundred device,
Speaker 1: so you're like, I have to use this thing, but.
Speaker 2: It realistically, it's the difference between two meters and one meter. Okay,
Speaker 2: two meters for thirty minutes on those on the more
Speaker 2: expensive devices, one meter for thirty minutes on the ten R.
Speaker 1: You get your choice of colors on the ten R,
Speaker 1: which the colors are black, white, blue, yellow, coral which
Speaker 1: is kind of pink, and then a red color.
Speaker 2: It's funny, I call coral kind of orange. But you
Speaker 2: know what, I've decided it's because I'm a little colorblind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I am too, So maybe we're just
Speaker 1: we'll just mix what we what we say together. Now,
Speaker 1: when it comes to the portrait mode, you can't take
Speaker 1: portrait mode of non humans, right, So you did a
Speaker 1: little experimentation with this, but you're sort of limited to
Speaker 1: people's faces. That's because of the algorithm limitation, So you
Speaker 1: don't you know, if you want to take these crazy
Speaker 1: portrait modes of all kinds of stuff, you might want
Speaker 1: to consider the ten s. Other than that, I mean, realistically,
Speaker 1: the screen lance are is the average person going to
Speaker 1: notice a difference in the screen on this device if
Speaker 1: you're not comparing it to another device sitting right next
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 2: Right, if you don't have it next to it, you
Speaker 2: won't notice. I had the benefit of having all of
Speaker 2: these devices right next to it, and I could see
Speaker 2: it immediately. But on its own, you just end up focusing.
Speaker 2: It is a retina level screen, you know, it is
Speaker 2: that resolution, so you're still it's still bright, it's still attractive,
Speaker 2: and you really have to kind of force yourself to
Speaker 2: look at the bezel and see that it's slightly thicker.
Speaker 2: But you I would challenge an individual to notice that
Speaker 2: without the other phones next to it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So is sixty four gigs for seven hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty dollars, one hundred and twenty eight for seven ninety nine,
Speaker 1: two fifty six for eight ninety nine. I think the
Speaker 1: sweet spot is that one twenty eight for fifty more dollars.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've already gone seven hundred and fifty, you
Speaker 1: might as well go fifty more bucks, right.
Speaker 2: I agree. I agree that. I think that's a really
Speaker 2: good point. Again, you're still saving that money. I think, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, this is a device capable of shooting four
Speaker 2: K videos, So you know, if you know you avoid
Speaker 2: doing that because that fills up that space.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because but if you.
Speaker 2: Avoid doing that and you stick with the ten ADP
Speaker 2: and you know, I think you'll be just fine with it.
Speaker 2: It's funny over the years, I used to think that
Speaker 2: sixty four gig avites tod be like, Wow, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: I'm never going to run out of space, And now
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I'm tend to be leaning into
Speaker 2: the two fifty six. You know, because our files have
Speaker 2: gotten larger. We're shooting tons of photos and tons of videos.
Speaker 2: I don't think people even realize what they're doing, you know,
Speaker 2: And and so it fills up faster than you think,
Speaker 2: and you tend to notice it when you have to
Speaker 2: buy more iCloud storage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the other thing. It's like, sure the
Speaker 1: iCloud storage. A lot of people are saying you only
Speaker 1: need sixty four because if you have iCloud and you
Speaker 1: have that little switch on that says, you know, optimize
Speaker 1: my photo storage on my phone, which means it basically
Speaker 1: offloads a lot of your pictures into the cloud, downloads
Speaker 1: them when you only need them when you're viewing them.
Speaker 1: The reality is it's still nice to have that physical
Speaker 1: space on your phone because apps are getting bigger. Like
Speaker 1: you said, the four K video files. I like to
Speaker 1: shoot everything in four K because guess what, have you
Speaker 1: ever looked at your old videos, Lance from when you
Speaker 1: had a VGA camera? They look like garbage on today's screens, right,
Speaker 1: And you can't believe it because back in the day
Speaker 1: they looked amazing.
Speaker 2: Those darn flipcams.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. So what do you think do you recommend
Speaker 1: the ten R for the average person or are they
Speaker 1: really do they really need to save up and go
Speaker 1: with the ten S max or the ten S.
Speaker 2: I recommend it, and I predict this is going to
Speaker 2: be a huge seller for Apple. I think that people
Speaker 2: between the price and the performance and those color choices,
Speaker 2: which would for whatever reason, just turn people on. I
Speaker 2: think this is going to be an incredibly popular phone, and.
Speaker 1: I concur I agree. I think it's incredibly popular as well.
Speaker 1: I say, the only reason you need to go with
Speaker 1: the ten S or the tens Max is if you're
Speaker 1: in a position of content creation, you know, I really think,
Speaker 1: or if you're just that kind of person that has
Speaker 1: to have the absolute best that Apple has to offer.
Speaker 1: But the biggest thing to me is the fact that
Speaker 1: they put that same processor in both phones.
Speaker 2: It's like almost no sacrifice at all, and just one
Speaker 2: other thing because I think it matters to people. The
Speaker 2: screen glass on the front is the same as the tens.
Speaker 2: The screen glass on the back is slightly different but
Speaker 2: better than the original ten but lesser than the ten S.
Speaker 2: So just because everybody's dropping their phone and I know
Speaker 2: it's a concern.
Speaker 1: And I will say too when I was holding the
Speaker 1: device at the Apple event. Doesn't have white the premium
Speaker 1: feel of the ten S, but it has the feel
Speaker 1: of basically any iPhone from back in the day, like
Speaker 1: the seven or the eight right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you know, surgical steel on the tennis
Speaker 2: and tennis max is amazing, and you know it just
Speaker 2: feels great. But the aluminum looks good, feels good actually
Speaker 2: because it's Matt Finish. It's it's nice to hold. You
Speaker 2: don't feel like it's gonna slip out of your hand,
Speaker 2: so I think it's still good.
Speaker 1: All right, Lance deeling Off, thanks so much for joining me.
Speaker 1: Twitter dot com slash Lance U L A n O
Speaker 1: F F. He also has his review of the iPhone
Speaker 1: on Medium. He says the iPhone ten R excels where
Speaker 1: it counts, so you can read his whole review there.
Speaker 1: And yes, I will be getting my phone, I believe tomorrow,
Speaker 1: so I will have some hands on and sprinkle that
Speaker 1: across all my social media. Lance, have a great day
Speaker 1: you too.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, And if you want.
Speaker 1: More information on the ten R, you can go in
Speaker 1: the show notes or go on my website rich on
Speaker 1: tech dot tv. I'm rich Tomiro. Thanks so much for listening.
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you real soon. Mhm