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Speaker 1: I think we got to start with Robert sala the

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Speaker 1: New York Jets. Zack Wilson won Robert sala Is seven kids.

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Speaker 1: He has now coached Zack Wilson essentially for two straight years.

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Speaker 1: Part of playing the quarterback position we'll talk about later. CJ. Stroud, obviously,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. You watch these athletes and they just have

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Speaker 1: And tonight with that version of Zach Wilson, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: and let's face it, not all like their offensive line

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Speaker 1: not great at it, but it didn't matter because he

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Speaker 1: always had the umbrella of Tom and Bill could handle

425
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: that shit. Say what you want about Bill. He could

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00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: be a curmudget and an angry guy. But when you

427
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Speaker 1: notice the mccordy's, the Gronks, the Vrabels, Whoever, when they

428
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: talk about Bill from a coaching perspective, Randy Moss, he's

429
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: actually pretty easy to interact with. People like dealing with

430
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: him when it comes to coach player relationship. If you're

431
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: a decent player just communicating Josh McDaniels, you get him

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Speaker 1: out of the umbrella. He can't interact with anybody. And

433
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 1: I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Last week

434
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Speaker 1: when he was fired, I was like, you know, I

435
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: don't think it was as negative as the Denver situation

436
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: the last time around. I think this was more the

437
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: team was awful. Well, it turns out the Jay Glazer Report,

438
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: all the other stories, it was equally as bad. People

439
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: hated this guy's guts. And the only reason I don't

440
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: know about you, but I don't hate that many people anymore.

441
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Speaker 1: But I'm not really around that many people, Like I

442
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: don't go into an office every day. When I've thought

443
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: about it, and I thought about it today, the people

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Speaker 1: I've hated over the years, right in my adult life

445
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: have basically been people that I spent all these hours

446
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Speaker 1: around in an office setting, and you can't really avoid them, right. Well,

447
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: it's no different as a player and a coach right,

448
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: Why would they hate Josh McDaniels Because I don't just

449
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Speaker 1: because I see you say something I disagree with on

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Speaker 1: the internet or whatever, I don't care, right, But when

451
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Speaker 1: you spend time with someone on a daily basis, you

452
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: can't get to a point where you despise them really quick,

453
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Speaker 1: especially if they're superior. And one thing was clear with

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels his tact and his ability to interact with

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Speaker 1: human beings, whether you grew up in a country club,

456
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Speaker 1: whether you grew up in the hood, whether you play

457
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Speaker 1: a linebacker, or whether you're a kicker, he has no

458
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: ability to do it. And every guy, to a man

459
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: in that locker room pretty clearly wanted that fucking guy gone.

460
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: And I saw some people on the internet saying, you know,

461
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Speaker 1: if this is what low level teams do when players

462
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Speaker 1: go to the owners and air their grievances, And I'd say, yeah,

463
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: if that was if people did that to a successful coach, right,

464
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Speaker 1: a guy with pelts on the wall, a dude that

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Speaker 1: had to respect, I'd be like, yeah, those are probably

466
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Speaker 1: loser players. And then I look at the Raiders locker room, like, well,

467
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: who are their main team captains? Max Crosby, who's like

468
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: universally beloved and respected in the NFL. Who's our star

469
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Speaker 1: and offense? Oh, I don't know a guy that just

470
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: came from the Packers and was used to winning and

471
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Speaker 1: is also known as one of the higher character guys

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Speaker 1: in the league. Now here's the thing about football. If

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Speaker 1: you just got Josh McDaniels and Antonio Pierce on a

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Speaker 1: whiteboard and just said go to town, there is probably no

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Speaker 1: chance that Antonio Pierce, even though he played at a

476
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Speaker 1: really high league, could go toe to toe with that

477
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Speaker 1: pen and that whiteboard. Why Josh has two decades right

478
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: next to Bill Belichick, Like the knowledge he has in

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00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: his mind and his head and his ability in a

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00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: film room by himself or with players is probably elite.

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00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: But all that shit is completely irrelevant. Right. A lot

482
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: of people have great ideas, a lot of educated individuals

483
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: in theory should be very successful, yet they can't execute anything.

484
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: Think how many people you have met that have these

485
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: ideas and nothing ever becomes of it. And then you

486
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 1: watch all these successful people who maybe they didn't even

487
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: talk about it, they just fucking did it. And part

488
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: of coaching, the only place you get judged is on

489
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: the field, no one gives a shit how many offensive

490
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: plays you know, and then clearly your ability to articulate coach,

491
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: get those players to take your place and believe in

492
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Speaker 1: them and you, and then go exit. It can't go

493
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: any worse for this guy. This guy, to me, for

494
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: whatever reason, is the ultimate con man. Because I watched

495
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 1: some different snippets over his time. When he got hired

496
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: his last couple of years with the Patriots, I'm like, God,

497
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: this guy seems like a pretty normal guy. And then

498
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: he realized he's been faking it the whole time. He

499
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: can't be normal. I've sat with a lot of these

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00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: football coaches have a football just bullshitting with players or

501
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: other coaches. It's not that fucking hard. And to have

502
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: everyone terrified for their life on a daily basis like

503
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: you are, Bill Parcells, How did Josh? He couldn't have

504
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 1: learned from it because he doesn't have the capability. And

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Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce, is he gonna go on to be a

506
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: really good coach? I have no clue. Does he know

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Speaker 1: what he's doing from a coaching perspective, I don't know.

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00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: But one thing he clearly can do, and he did

509
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Speaker 1: it as a player when he was a team captain

510
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: for a Super Bowl champion, and he did it immediately

511
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: this week is he could just interact with the guys

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Speaker 1: as a human being, as a man. Man, de man,

513
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: just I'm gonna give you some respect. I want to

514
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: listen to what you have to say because I don't

515
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: know it all. And I think that's part of Josh's problem.

516
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: Because of his success under Belichick and Brady, he believes

517
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Speaker 1: to his core that he knows it all. The problem

518
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,239
Speaker 1: is he clearly does not. And the thing you have

519
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: to know the most when it comes to being a

520
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: good coach is then how to interact, motivate, and coach

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00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: that player. And that's something that he clearly lacked. And

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Speaker 1: at this point in time, with all the separation from

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Speaker 1: the Denver disaster to where he was just fired a

524
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: week ago, he's never gonna figure it out. He literally

525
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: had a decade to do the look in the mirror,

526
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: introspection and think and grow and change. Sometimes you just

527
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: can't change right in football and scouting, the famous saying

528
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: was always like a Leppard doesn't change his spots. Josh

529
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: McDaniels isn't changing what Josh McDaniels is this is who

530
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: he is and do you know what we found out?

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Speaker 1: He's number make him your offensive coordinator. You better have,

532
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, a very powerful head coach. You better have

533
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: high character guys in the building, because if Josh is

534
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: ever going to be tasked with the guy communicating to

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00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: your players constantly, you're gonna have problems. And you remove

536
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: Tom from that equation, the fucking building burns down, and

537
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: it burns down quick. So props to Antonio Peers for

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00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, just being nice to guys, just having conversations,

539
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: just listening to them. I didn't think it could go

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00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: down that road again. But you could argue the Glazier story.

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Speaker 1: Some of the things we've heard borderline just is embarrassing

542
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: of what Josh went through in seven and eight. Okay, last,

543
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: but not least Morgan and Morgan player that made it

544
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: look easy. There's so many guys we go with, right,

545
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: Joshua Dobbs comes off the couch, the plane, doesn't even

546
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Speaker 1: know the playbook. CJ. Stroud throws five touchdowns and five

547
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: hundred yards. But I'm a huge fan of this guy,

548
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Speaker 1: and I think sometimes when you get in positions where

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00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: it's your quarterback gets paid. The star receiver, you know,

550
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: is gonna get an astronomical amount of money and you're

551
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: kind of the number two guy. It's like, well, is

552
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Speaker 1: this team they talked about trading me in the offseason

553
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Speaker 1: then they don't. Are they gonna let me hit free agency?

554
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Speaker 1: Are they actually gonna sign me? I'm kind of a

555
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: no man's land. We're all human beings. It's easy to

556
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: get into a rut as a person, especially as a player.

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Speaker 1: And I think T Higgins you know, he battles some

558
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: injuries early, but that game against Buffalo eight catches one

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Speaker 1: hundred and ten yards him going with Burrow after the game,

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Speaker 1: you know, talking to the sideline reporter and you could

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Speaker 1: just see the spirit in him. And if you get

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Speaker 1: T Higgins rolling, we know how good Chase is, assuming

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Speaker 1: his back's gonna be fine. After that crazy catch, Joe

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Speaker 1: the quarterback is gonna play like that. So props the

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Speaker 1: T Higgins for keep swinging. Props to Joe Burrow for

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Speaker 1: or Miles Garrett or Von Miller. Like, even if they

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Speaker 1: don't live up to the hype, they are gonna play

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Speaker 1: in the league for a decade plus. Clowney Dominican Sue.

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Speaker 1: Neither one of those guys I would say lived up

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Speaker 1: to play Obviously, Genevion Clowney's still going. Like there are

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Speaker 1: some guys. No one is guaranteed to go to the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, but some guys floor is so freaking

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Speaker 1: long time. The overwhelming majority of players are risky. There

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Speaker 1: is no guarantee, and especially quarterbacks. So no matter how

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Speaker 1: good you are in college, no matter how much we

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Speaker 1: all love watching you, there is a huge element of

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Speaker 1: risk at that position. If you watch DJ Stroud over

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Speaker 1: this couple of years at Ohio State, it was stupid,

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Speaker 1: how effortlessly it was for him to throw the ball,

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Speaker 1: how beautiful the ball looked in the air. Now it

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00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: was easy to be like, well, look he's throwing to

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Speaker 1: It's so easy. Their team is so much better. You

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00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: could argue either side, and then that Georgia game happen.

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Speaker 1: You're like, I've never seen him look like that. And

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Speaker 1: I would say, I went back and I watched a

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Speaker 1: decent amount of that game yesterday, and I don't blame

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Speaker 1: you if you weren't dialed into Texan Stampa. And then

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Speaker 1: I went today and I watched every one of his throws.

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Speaker 1: And I think a huge area that separates quarterbacks from

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Speaker 1: being good players and basically bus guys that are drafted

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00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: high that can't be long term starters is the ability

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Speaker 1: to layer throws. Most guys can throw a go route,

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Speaker 1: most guys can be accurate on an out route. Most

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Speaker 1: They can hit those the majority of the times. Can

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Speaker 1: they layer throws between different types of zone defenses and

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Speaker 1: just different defensive concepts where there's a linebacker, your receiver

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Speaker 1: and then another defensive back and you have to do

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Speaker 1: that time and time again to win games in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of guys can never do that or

636
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Speaker 1: never accurate doing that. They can attempt to do that,

637
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: they throw picks, they overthrow it, they just can't consistently

638
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,959
Speaker 1: hit that pass. That's what all the great and long

639
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: term starting quarterbacks can do pretty consistently layer touch passes

640
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: with accuracy, and that's one thing CJ. Stroud does currently.

641
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: With his eyes closed, I would say his arm is good,

642
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: not great. His athleticism is definitely better than we once

643
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: thought going back to the Georgia game. He can move.

644
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call him some crazy athlete, but athleticism is

645
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: something that if he does have to leave the pocket,

646
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: he can keep plays alive. He did that several times,

647
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: and he's kind of an instinctive playmaker. But inside the pocket.

648
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: One of his comps was Jared Goff, and people forget

649
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: like for a while that was like a negative thing.

650
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: Jared Goff was the number one overall pick, had a

651
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: ton of success in LA and is now kicking ass

652
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: and taken names for the Detroit Lions. What Jared Goff

653
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: does not possess his athleticism for NFL standards between zero

654
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: and ten is close to a zero. It's like i'd

655
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: put it like a one or two if Lamar and

656
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 1: Kyler and guys like that are like nine's tens. CJ

657
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: is probably somewhere in the middle, but he definitely is

658
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: much more confident moving around and throwing. It's not something

659
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: that he wants to rely on. So to me, his

660
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: ceiling relative to Jared Goff, who you can tell when

661
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: it's built well around him is pretty damn good, is higher.

662
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: And listen, I can't pretend I like Bryce Young Moore.

663
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: It's pretty clear like based on the evidence we have,

664
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: there is not a soul in the NFL, and that

665
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: includes Carolina that wouldn't take CJ Stratu over Bryce Shaw. Now,

666
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: at quarterback, a lot you're dependent on your offensive coordinator,

667
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: your skill. Guys, a lot of stuff is out of

668
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: your control. But if you just watch CJ and you

669
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: watch Bryce, it doesn't really look like they're comparable right

670
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: now as talents. Obviously a lot there's a lot of

671
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: unknown with Anthony Richardson, but his skill set and Phillys

672
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: attributes are the best of the group. And Will Levis

673
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: has a really good arm as well. But CJ is

674
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: just a natural passer. Is something that clearly translates from college.

675
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: And the accuracy on those layered throws and then you

676
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: never know with the poise, and that's something I think

677
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: sometimes in college when your team is so much better,

678
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: how are you going to react when you don't have

679
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: the protection and you're getting peppered by NFL guys making

680
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: ten twenty twenty five million dollars And he shows a

681
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: lot of that. So to me, the accuracy, the touch

682
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: passes on the layer throws and the poise, because the

683
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: stats are pretty stupid right now, and I would say

684
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: it feels like he's a runaway train based on where

685
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: things are going for a rookie of the year. He's

686
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: got fourteen touchdowns, one interception so far in the season.

687
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: Obviously had a historic day against Tampa. But if I'm

688
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: a Texans fan like my coach, I'd buy all the

689
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: stock in Demko and I would have before he even

690
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: accepted a head coaching job. He was destined to be

691
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: a study head coach, just like Mike Vrabel once upon

692
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: a time. But for those guys to be good and win,

693
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: you need competent quarterback play right and listen. We can

694
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: talk say what we want about Ryan Tannehill, but for

695
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: a couple of years stretch, he kind of became an

696
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: Alex Smith version. And if you're a really good coach

697
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: and I give you Alex Smith, like you're going to

698
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Vrabel is rattling off playoff wins in appearances.

699
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: And for Dimiico to be a good head coach, he

700
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: needs a competent quarterback. And it sure looks like you

701
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: got one on a roocky contract. I would be very

702
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: very excited. Who knows, Like, are you gonna make the playoffs?

703
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: I think Jacksonville's gonna win that division? Could you make

704
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: a wild card? It's hard because the AFC, But I

705
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: would say the sun is shining pretty bright right now

706
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: in the Houston Texans. Joshua Dobbs, we talked about it

707
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: last week when he was traded. I think one of

708
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: the best attributes any one of us can have is

709
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: adaptability because I don't care what you do for a living,

710
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: whether you're a doctor, whether you're in sales, whether you're

711
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: a podcaster, whether you're an NFL quarterback, you're gonna be

712
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: throwing curve balls either on a daily basis, a weekly basis,

713
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: a monthly basis. Things that you are not expecting are

714
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: going to happen professionally. And this is something I know

715
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: me personally, I've had to work a lot at I

716
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: can be very regimented, I can be very kind of

717
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: stuck in my ways. That's not the way the world works.

718
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: That's not the way successful people operate. Obviously, you have

719
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: to have a discipline in whatever you're doing, and some

720
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: people operate better with things laid out than others. But

721
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: you have to be prepared when you were going to

722
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: do something, and then you're not able to do that

723
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: because something else came up or this isn't working, So

724
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: how are we going to get it done? And I

725
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: would say most successful people in any industry are the

726
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: quickest and have I would even say the best attitude

727
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: when it comes. We got to figure this out right

728
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: and not just freak out meltdown because the moment you

729
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: melt down and listen, I've had my fair share of meltdowns.

730
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: Gets accomplished and at quarterback. What separates just solid players

731
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: from guys that just can't function? I would say historically

732
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: when you're watching a guy in the pocket completely unravel

733
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: and melt down, and a lot of times those guys

734
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: know the place. Those guys may have been on a

735
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: team for a long time. Joshua Dobbs now is proven

736
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: that he can show up somewhere, not really know the plays,

737
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: not know what's going on, and just kind of figure

738
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: it out. Those are type people I like betting on

739
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: in life, the figure it out guys. Can you just

740
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: figure it out? Right? I mean, and clearly anyone listening

741
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: to this, some people are better than that than others, right,

742
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: And obviously we all have a certain skill set in

743
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,959
Speaker 1: whatever we do professionally, but outside of that skill set,

744
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: like can you figure some things out? And Joshua Dobbs,

745
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: everyone swears by the guy's character as a leader, as

746
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: a guy, all the intangible stuff he passes with flying colors,

747
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: But there's a football element of showing up to a

748
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: team he didn't know his teammates' names. He obviously does

749
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: not know the plays. He wasn't even supposed to have

750
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: to play on Sunday. But what happens starting quarterback rookie

751
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: gets throttled concussion out here? You go, Josh, you don't

752
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: know where Cadence is, You don't know our plays. Shit,

753
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: you don't even know the majority of the guys in

754
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: the huddles names. We need you to help us. And

755
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: what did he do helped him win a game? Because

756
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: that's what Josh Dobbs does. I would imagine Josh Dobbs

757
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: operates like that in most aspects of his life, right,

758
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: whether it's putting a desk together at his house, whether

759
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: it's figuring out how am I gonna get to point

760
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: A to point B, or whether it's figuring out a

761
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: play on a drive late in the game when he

762
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: barely knows the playbook. That's who Josh Dobbs is. That's

763
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: why I would bet on that if Joshua Dobbs was

764
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: a stock, I would bet on the individual and one

765
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: thing for his NFL stock, I would say he is

766
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: done because I googled it yesterday during the game. How

767
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: holds this guy again? Twenty eight years old? I would

768
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: say at minimum. He has set himself up for another

769
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: seven eight years in his NFL career, maybe not as

770
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: a full time starter, but as a guy that successful

771
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: teams will want on their team as a backup. Worst

772
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: case scenario three four five million dollars to back up

773
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, to back up Dak Prescott or Josh Allen.

774
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: So if those guys get injured and shit hits the

775
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: fan in the middle of a game, maybe a playoff game,

776
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: you're capable enough to come in and just help figure

777
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 1: it out. And obviously, as a player, have the physical

778
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: characteristics to make some plays athletically with your arm, and

779
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: guys naturally rally around you. So I don't know if

780
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: you like, I don't see how if you follow football

781
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: you can't respect this guy to the nth degree. To

782
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: admire what he just did on Sunday is just freaking

783
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: and remarkable. What a cool story. And speaking of something

784
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: that isn't a cool story. He forty said once in

785
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: Rappers Ball in the mid nineties, a song you did

786
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: with two short don't buy an eighty five thousand dollars

787
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: car before you buy a house. This was in like

788
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: ninety five or ninety six, so Essentially, what he was

789
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: talking about is like a two hundred and fifty thousand

790
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: dollars car in inflationary twenty twenty three times, Like, why

791
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: are you spending money on that when you're renting an apartment?

792
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: Buy a fucking house first. And when the Atlanta Falcons

793
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: drafted a running back at number eight, when they were

794
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: several players and a quarterback away from being anything, it

795
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: made absolutely no sense. I believe still November sixth. This

796
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: is not playing Monday morning quarterback. I believe it at

797
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: the time and every day since. It's one of the

798
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: dumbest draft picks I'd ever seen, especially when you factored

799
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: in how good their running game was last year with

800
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: the guys they had on their roster who were all

801
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: coming back on rookie contracts. I can't fathom that pick. Now.

802
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: I've defended Detroit draft not many players, but they turned

803
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: their running back also into a tight end, which we

804
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: talked about last week. I do not understand the Falcons,

805
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: and clearly, even once they got Bijeon, their coach struggles

806
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: to use him. So it's like, what's the point of

807
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: even having this running back when you're not a running

808
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: back away? Drafting Saquon drafting Bijeon regardless of their speed,

809
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: their ability in the open field, how just how talented

810
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: they are just doesn't make sense. Now, we could argue

811
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: till we're blue in the face who they should have taken.

812
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: You just can't take a running back in that spot.

813
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: And I think it reflects their franchise, like what is

814
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: going on there? And I heard Michael Lombardi say this

815
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: about the Raiders. I think it's starting to kind of

816
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 1: come into play for Arthur Smith that you can only

817
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: have so many kicking the dick losses that everyone's making

818
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: fun of you for that. Your owner's watching, like, how

819
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: do we lose that game? Anyone can lose a bad game.

820
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: It's football. Crazy things happen. Nick Saban wants attempted to

821
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: kick a field goal in the Iron Bowl, and I

822
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: forget the guy's name. I think his last name was Davis.

823
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: Because the Niner sign up as an undrafted free agent

824
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: took of the house, right, It was gotta be one

825
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: of the most embarrassing moments in Nick Saban's coaching career

826
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: at Alabama. It happens, right, but when you start losing,

827
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: and Josh McDaniels did this lot did Jeff Saturday to

828
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, the dude from Sheppard College, It's like, what

829
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: are we doing here? Right? And I think that's what

830
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: Atlanta's starting to feel like, what is our direction? Where

831
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: are we going? Because Detroit very early on it felt

832
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: like they had a plan, they had a direction even

833
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: when they were losing. It's why last year, if you

834
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: watched Monday Night Countdown, Dan Campbell started crying talking about

835
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 1: the twenty and twenty one team, the team that sucked,

836
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: the team that laid the foundation to kind of where

837
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: they're at now, because he felt like they were building

838
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: something like kind of where they were headed. Where is

839
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: this Atlanta team going? To me? It feels like they're

840
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: going in no man's land. And their draft over the

841
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: last several years have just taken all these skill positions

842
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: kind of reflect that, like they don't understand football, which

843
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: is kind of crazy. Everyone loves Arthur Smith, his dad

844
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: was super successful. One time I kind of got I

845
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't say drunk with him. I was at a bar

846
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: sitting right next to him at the Combine years ago.

847
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: Feels like an easy guy to root for, but I'm

848
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: just sure, not sure. Him and his GM really know

849
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: what they're doing from a team building standpoint, and then

850
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: it reflects in the games. There was a visual yesterday

851
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: of you know, Jonathan and Robert Kraft sit together at

852
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: the Patriot games. They have forever. You know a lot

853
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: of times like Bad Jovi or Jay Z or someone

854
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: famous to sitting next to him, but it's always Jonathan

855
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: Craft Robert Craft, right, And there was this visual yesterday

856
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: as they were losing the Commanders, a team that traded

857
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: their two best players. I almost said Heineke. But Sam Howell,

858
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: who Jonathan Allen called their franchise quarterback, of Jonathan Craft,

859
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was looking at his phone

860
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 1: reading a ten message, We're just looking at his dad,

861
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: and he essentially mouthed the word we're just not good enough.

862
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: And it became like I can't believe. Wait, Jonathan Kraft

863
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: watching the New England Patriots in twenty twenty three, mouthed

864
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: we're not good enough. That'd be like me saying it's

865
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: hot in Arizona in the summer. Or you know, a

866
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: company going bankrupt is having some financial trouble. Let's file

867
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: that one under no shit. So maybe we could look

868
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: into like, are the crafts going to do something, but

869
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: them mouthing we're not good enough is not a story.

870
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: The team being two and six or two and seven

871
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: or whatever the hell the record is headed nowhere fast

872
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: tells you every All you have to do is watch

873
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: them for three or four series to know this team stinks.

874
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: They're going nowhere and nowhere fast. And if anything, every

875
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: loss they have is good because when you're not good,

876
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: every win is so pointless. Right. It's like I talked

877
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: about earlier with Burrow and Brian Flores. When you have

878
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: the chance to lose when you're two and eleven, there

879
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: is no point to win any of those games. It

880
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: does nothing because the majority of guys in your team

881
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: are not gonna be back. You're gonna have a new quarterback.

882
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: Like winning a random game in the middle of the

883
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: December when you are drafting second and it moves you

884
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: to sixth is the dumbest business decision you can make

885
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: in this billion dollar industry. I will never support it.

886
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: Have no problem with anyone trying to win in October,

887
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: how even November. Like I get why Bill's trying to

888
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: win right now, every game Bill loses, He's trying to win.

889
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: Now once we get to like Christmas, losing those last

890
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: three games should be a mandate from the owner. I

891
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: will always support this big boy business. Right. There is

892
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: no tanking in the NFL like there is in the

893
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,959
Speaker 1: NBA that where teams just literally tank the entire season.

894
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: Same with baseball. But in the NFL I do support, like, yeah,

895
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: let's just throw out a bunch of practice squad guys

896
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: the last three games the season. No issue with that

897
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: because I know, Hell, I'm watching Eber flush yesterday. It's like,

898
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: this guy's trying. That's the sad part about all these

899
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: Bears losses. He's really really trying to win. Yeah, he

900
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: looks terrible by the way. I mean, he just looks

901
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: like a guy who hasn't seen the sun in months.

902
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: This job is aging him. Watching him on the sideline

903
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: against Saints, Like god, I can be shocked if he

904
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: makes his return and think about so, Like the Craft

905
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: thing is one of the biggest nothing burger stories of

906
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: all time. He literally was watching his team, who is terrible,

907
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: and then he mouthed, We're not good enough. I mean

908
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: that's thanks is the sky Blue as well? Thanks Captain obvious. Obviously,

909
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: the Internet loves to make this stuff something bigger than

910
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: it is. But it's what everyone's thinking in the stadium

911
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: watching that game, every Patriot fan watching that game. Hell,

912
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: every person that roots for the Washington Commanders watching Belichick's team,

913
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: and speaking of the Bears, they signed Sweat to like

914
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: a four year, ninety eight million dollar deal and gave

915
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: him over seventy million dollars. This is what I said

916
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: on the trade when I couldn't wrap my head around it.

917
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: There is no way, even on the open market, anyone

918
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: was offering a guy that doesn't is a consistent double debt.

919
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 1: He's not a double digitsack guy every year basis seventy

920
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: plus million dollars. Now, because it's free agent free agency,

921
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: guys get overpaid. Look at McGlinchey right starting right tackle

922
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: Sean Payton gives them fifty million dollars honestly, probably fifteen

923
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: ten million dollars guaranteed, more than other teams were even

924
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: willing to pay. So you pay a premium once you

925
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: hit free agency. Sweat, anyone offering that guy sixty million

926
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed on the open market, maybe you know in

927
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 1: that fifty five sixty because he's probably ideally a forty

928
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: five to fifty million dollar guaranteed guy, so you add

929
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: another ten on top of it, but no one's given

930
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: him that contract. And this is what I said, If

931
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: you want this guy, why don't you just buy him

932
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: on the open market. You could just make him an

933
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: offer that he can't refuse and also keep your second

934
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: round pick. I will never support what they did. I

935
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: think it's just awful NFL business because the pick they

936
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: gave up is just too valuable. That pick's going to

937
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: be thirty four to thirty five, and you gave him

938
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: a contract which you would have gladly given him in

939
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: the free agent market. Hell, even if that seventy million

940
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed or seventy one, whatever the exact number was,

941
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: you had to go to seventy eight just to make

942
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: sure you got the guy. So be it what that

943
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: extra six to seven million dollars is worth keeping that

944
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: second round pick. So I still can't get over that move.

945
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: A couple other quick things on the college front. One

946
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: thing's pretty clear if you watch their games this year,

947
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: and I knew this talking to people in college football,

948
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: Texas has the best team money can buy right now.

949
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: They might not be the best team in the country.

950
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: But their team if it was public like it is

951
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL or basketball or baseball, and we saw

952
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: their books. They have the most expensive team in college football.

953
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: They have the highest budget allocated toward players everyone. I mean,

954
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: their third string quarterback is making millions of dollars. Their

955
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: roster is fucking loaded, and for about the last ten

956
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: twelve years, Texas became one of the most overrated programs

957
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: in the country. All you gotta do is look at

958
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: their draft picks. They didn't have any for a long

959
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: period of time. They were not an NFL factory this team.

960
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: That ain't the case last year. Obviously, they produced some

961
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: good players. This team even has more, and Sark has

962
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: no excuse to not go to the playoffs. He's not

963
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: a very good coach. He's just not. I'm sorry his inability.

964
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: He's playing Kansas State, which is a well coached, overachieving

965
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: program the majority of my life. They do not have

966
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: nearly a talent. He has countless players on his team

967
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: that make more money than the overwhelming majority of the

968
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: coaching staff for Kansas State. I bet he has a

969
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: couple of players that make more than their head coach,

970
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: who I think I looked up makes about four million dollars,

971
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: definitely Arch and maybe even quin yours. But sarks inability

972
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: to run the ball because he's addicted to passing, to me,

973
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 1: makes no sense. Now he's playing with a second string

974
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: quarterback who is very physically gifted but is not I

975
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: wouldn't call exactly CJ. Stroud passing the ball, turning the

976
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: ball over, throwing in completions and instead of when he

977
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: was running the ball all over them, leaning on that

978
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: in the second half and just annihilating them and easily

979
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: winning the game, he just got pass happy. And if

980
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: it wasn't for I'm all for going for it in

981
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: overtime or late in the game when you're a massive underdog.

982
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: But as you watch that game play out in Texas,

983
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: this is his quarterback play is more than questionable. I

984
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm going for it like I think

985
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm kicking field goals, kicking extra points and continuing the game.

986
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: So when Kansas State went forward at the end of

987
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: the game, I didn't love it. I didn't love it

988
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: at all because I thought, like, it's one thing when

989
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: you don't have the ability to just beat them straight up,

990
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: right and obviously they have more talented players than you,

991
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: but you're out coaching them. You are stopping them on

992
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: defense because you know he's just gonna keep throwing the

993
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: ball and their quarterback is not being very accurate. So listen,

994
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: if you gave this roster to Saban to Kirby, I

995
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: would say they're gonna win the national championship. I still think,

996
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: you know, you just look at their schedule. Oklahoma now

997
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: is in shambles. That Texas more than likely is going

998
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: to be in the playoffs. But I just do not

999
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: trust Sark in these big spots at all. And then

1000
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: the last, but not least, this hard boss Stallion story.

1001
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: It just is the gift that keeps on giving. He

1002
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: resigned five whatever Friday. I mean some of the pictures

1003
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: that have gone viral. Ryan Day's brother now is reportedly

1004
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: the guy that uncovered it all and turned it in.

1005
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: Ryan Day was asked about it, he no commented, the

1006
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: one thing I love, I don't like. I love and

1007
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: I was a buddy of mine. Michael Madson was here

1008
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 1: this weekend and me and my girlfriend went to dinner

1009
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: with him and his wife and some other people that

1010
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: they work with, and he was telling me. He has

1011
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: gone to a bunch of different games across the country

1012
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: and he said, you have to go because we had

1013
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: I had on like the four boxes right like USC Washington,

1014
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: BAM LSU, and like two other games. And he's like,

1015
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: I went to BAM LSU and he's like, it was

1016
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: the coolest experience in my life. He's like, if you've

1017
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: never been to that game, you gotta go. Like, not

1018
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 1: just any SEC game, you got to go to that game.

1019
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: He's like, LSU and Bama either one go to that game.

1020
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: They went in Alabama. It was the year that you know,

1021
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: I think Joe Burrow won the national champampionship. Said it

1022
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: was just incredible. He's also me into a game in

1023
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: Tennessee he said was sweet. He's like, I went to

1024
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 1: the Red Rivel Rivalry last year and the Cotton Bowl.

1025
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: He's like that it was cool. It was cool, but

1026
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't that. So there's a passion in the SEC

1027
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: and the Big Ten that when stuff like this happens,

1028
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: the other schools are not gonna stop their fan bases,

1029
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: their radio hosts, their bloggers. It's gonna be relentless. So

1030
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: everyone in the Big Ten is and listen Harbaugh's an

1031
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: easy guy to hate that program, the way he runs,

1032
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: it's easy to hate. And then now you factor in

1033
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 1: the story them stealing stuff. I get it, but I

1034
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: love the passion that it brings out from Ohio State,

1035
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: from Penn State, from even the Purdue coach talking shit

1036
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: like it's these are nuclear secrets. How passionate and serious

1037
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: everyone takes it makes it extremely entertaining. There was a

1038
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: story yesterday that he was gonna get suspended and then

1039
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: Michigan was gonna appeal with the lawyer and file for

1040
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: an injunction. It's like, I can't keep up with everything

1041
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: going on, but I don't want this story dand it's

1042
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: just the headlines of the story. Connor stallions, thank you

1043
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: for your service are just too entertaining to me. And

1044
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 1: what I think is most fascinating about this is Michigan

1045
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: could easily win the national championship. They definitely, I mean,

1046
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: they beat Ohiose State, They're going to the playoffs. I

1047
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be the one seed and more than

1048
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: likely favored. So it's just gonna be the story ain't stopping.

1049
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: So even if you are kind of tired of it,

1050
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: you better buckle up because it ain't going anywhere. Okay,

1051
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: let's dive into a little mailbag at John middlecoff Instagram.

1052
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: Fire in those dms. Get your question answered here on

1053
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: the show. Question on the Dallas catch at the goal line,

1054
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: why is the receivers deemed down as soon as his

1055
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: knee is down, but the receiver still has to complete

1056
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: the catch going to the crown seems like a double standard. Well,

1057
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: if you're asking to me what a catch is, I

1058
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: got no clue. I would say I don't know. I

1059
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: My issue with that play is in that situation as

1060
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: a receiver, even if the route is whatever specific three

1061
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: yards or two yards or yard and a half or

1062
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, you got to get en up

1063
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: depth where you're in the in the end zone, right,

1064
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: So even if the guy's all over you, you have

1065
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: to be in the end zone. It's like, even if

1066
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: I call it's third and eight in the games on

1067
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: the line and we have a seven yard route, I

1068
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: have to cheat it a little bit and get over

1069
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: the first down marker. So listen to try to explain

1070
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: why you know the catch rules are the catch rules? Like,

1071
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear when we're sitting there on

1072
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: our couch is that a catcher? Is that not a catch? Right?

1073
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: We should be able to do that, but that's the

1074
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: NFL has removed that from us, and there are eight

1075
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: million different ways. The only cool part about a catch

1076
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: now is it's pretty easy to tell on the sideline.

1077
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: I guess it always has been, right with the two

1078
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: feet the dude making some of the catches, Dell, the

1079
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: rookie third rounder for the Texans, of dragging his feet,

1080
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: But in terms of going to the ground, I mean,

1081
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: that's an exhausting rule to even try to follow. Since

1082
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: it's been confirmed that DJ has torn his ACL and

1083
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: will be out for the year, who should the Giants

1084
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: aim the draft? I like May, but leary about another

1085
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: quarterback from the ACC. I'm not sure how good Caleb

1086
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: will be behind the O line, and Pennix has a

1087
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: lengthy injury history. Marvin Harrison wouldn't make too much sense

1088
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: if there's no quarterback to throw him the ball. I

1089
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind trading down and getting more picks to help

1090
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: build the team, but I feel like we need to

1091
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: go with the quarterback position. You do not have a choice.

1092
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: You know you tried to solve it with DJ, just

1093
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: didn't work, But I think that you're not gonna win

1094
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: many games. And now you're in a position where Daniel

1095
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: Jones isn't even an option. You know, who knows how

1096
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: long ty Rod's out that you're rolling with Danny DeVito's

1097
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: cousin here, and say what you want about Tommy DeVito

1098
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: ain't very good, I do. I saw a lot of

1099
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: people saying this, how could you have Tommy DeVito like

1100
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: they had Daniel Jones, who they're paying forty million dollars

1101
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: in Tyrod Taylor. You go into a season with that,

1102
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: and if you can't keep those two guys on the field,

1103
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: whoever your third string is gonna be, everyone's gonna complain.

1104
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: So I have a hard time bitching and moaning the

1105
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: the Vito's in the game. When you start the season

1106
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones and Tyrod Taylor, in theory, it should

1107
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: be a pretty good one too. Now we could argue

1108
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: how good Daniel Jones is, but if like that's your

1109
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, if Tyrod's your backup, you're in pretty good shape.

1110
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: If they're both gonna get hurt, let's face it, you're fucked.

1111
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you just are. So you gotta just draft

1112
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: a quarterback now, I would take any one of those

1113
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: three guys. I think it just depends are you gonna

1114
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: have the worst record in the league. I think it's

1115
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: pretty clear Caroline is, and if Caroline is, that means

1116
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: Chicago is. And I would imagine Chicago's gonna take CAYLORB. Williams.

1117
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: So then if you're two, is a Drake May over

1118
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix, which I think on the big boards right now,

1119
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: Drake May is viewed as the number two quarterback, So

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Speaker 1: I would take Drake May. Yes, he's a better, way

1121
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: better thrower of the ball in college than Daniel Jones.

1122
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: Dak and McCarthy obviously have a lot of critics, but

1123
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: when will the defense step up against good competition. Hirts

1124
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: has been turnover prone all year, and the Cowboys didn't

1125
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: force any although they had some bad bounces or get

1126
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: off the field and third down for the most part,

1127
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: I feel like they've been a huge leadown, especially when

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01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: Dak played very well in that game. I think I

1129
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,439
Speaker 1: heard a stat today that the Eagles only had one

1130
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: first down in the fourth quarter. I bet your defense

1131
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: kind of brought it down the end, right, I mean,

1132
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: let's face it, the Eagles that little stretch after the

1133
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: first half, when you guys are up seventeen fourteen, assuming

1134
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: your Cowboys fan, and the Eagles score back to back touchdowns,

1135
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: the beautiful throw to DeVante in the corner. I forget

1136
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: who's scored the other touchdown, but they they have all

1137
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's twenty eight to seventeen. Like that

1138
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: was a tough little stretch for the Cowboys defense, but

1139
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: ultimately like they played pretty well down the stretch. So

1140
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: I have a hard time, like the defense is good,

1141
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: but let's face it, it's not like great. You're missing digs,

1142
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: which if you add him, I think your defense could

1143
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: have been I don't want to say elite, but much

1144
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: better from a secondary position. But overall, like ash, I

1145
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: think your defense did more than enough to win you

1146
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: that game. Do you think it's possible for Dallas and

1147
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: Miami to win it all with two and Dak? I

1148
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: don't want to be a prisoner of the moment, but

1149
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: nine week nine confirmed for me that they can't. Both

1150
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: too and Dak were in position to win tier games,

1151
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: but Dak took a costly sack into a badly underthrew Wilson,

1152
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: then fumbled the snap the next play. Again, to me,

1153
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: there are outcomes that are a disaster result, like the underthrow.

1154
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: That's I don't really know what's going on there, But

1155
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: there's a sack when your right tackle get smoked and

1156
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 1: you get lit up like there's a bad I would

1157
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: imagine if we broke all the sacks down on the

1158
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: last two drives from Dak. One of them I'm sure

1159
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: is on him. He's just got to throw the ball away.

1160
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: He can't take a sack. But if your tackles are

1161
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 1: just gonna get fucking destroyed and not touch a rusher,

1162
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: there's not much I mean, Dean Sanders could be taking

1163
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: the snap. What was gonna do? He can't run away,

1164
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: So it's not all Dak's fault. Intua, I don't. I

1165
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: didn't see what they said after the game about the snap.

1166
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: But if the center snaps it at the wrong time, like,

1167
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: it's not always on the quarterback. I think the bigger

1168
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: problem is is Dak McCarthy on the play where his

1169
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: knees down. They gotta get over the line, and I'm sorry,

1170
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: at the highest level, like the difference of stepping out

1171
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: of bounds by a couple of inches and not is

1172
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: a pretty big deal. Like the difference of lipping out

1173
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: a putt and not is the difference of Tiger Woods

1174
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: winning and losing. The difference of you know, the margins

1175
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: at the highest level for elite players mahomes whoever in

1176
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: any sport is not that big and like you could

1177
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: be like, ah, that's kind of unlucky, but I don't know.

1178
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: You just can't. You can't do that. That just can't happen.

1179
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: I think that's a bigger issue. The stepping out of bounds,

1180
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: like fucking leap from the forward yard line, so you

1181
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: don't even have to worry about it. And I think

1182
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 1: Dak is just a better player than Tua. So that

1183
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: version of Dak you could win the Super Bowl with,

1184
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: because you could have won last night. To me, Tua,

1185
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: you can't win the Super Bowl, toua, I don't believe.

1186
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's possible. So I hear what you're saying,

1187
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: But I have more faith in Dak Prescott rightfully so,

1188
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: than Tua. Okay, this is about Josh Dobbs. The guy's

1189
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: been with seven different organizations. After mustering some success in

1190
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: an absolute terrible situation with the cards, he somehow manages

1191
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: to overcome being traded the Vikings. Midweek he entered at NASA.

1192
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: What a story. Totally agree. He talked about it earlier.

1193
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: Do you think the Dolphins are gonna go to host

1194
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: a playoff game this season? I'm realistic and know they

1195
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: aren't Super Bowl threat, but this may be the first

1196
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: time in my life they're good enough to snag a

1197
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: home playoff game. I would say it's a very on

1198
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: the table. I mean, Buffalo's and shambles right now. And

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01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about it, like if you're a

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01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: road team, I'm not picking you to win, you're the

1201
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: home team. You still might be playing like the Bengals, don't.

1202
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be easy. But there is a huge

1203
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: difference in the AFC for you guys, given where you

1204
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,439
Speaker 1: play geographically, in the weather of going into all those

1205
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: North places, right, whether it's the Bengals, whether it's the Ravens,

1206
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: whether it's the Chiefs, I mean, those games are fucking freezing.

1207
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: So if you get a home playoff game, even if

1208
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: it is a pick them against the Bengals, right, even

1209
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: the Steelers, I think would be a hard game for you,

1210
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: though you could win that because you're out, you could

1211
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: score more points than they could not having to go

1212
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: to those places. You get a home playoff game and

1213
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: you could win it, which would be an incredible accomplishment.

1214
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: I don't care how up and down the season is,

1215
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: no matter how times you guys lose the good teams,

1216
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: If you win the division and you were to win

1217
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: a playoff game, that's an incredible success, which I definitely

1218
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: think is on the table now that the Bills, I mean,

1219
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: do not look right. When a team fires a coach

1220
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: NC like the Raiders did, do they change the playbook,

1221
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: the verbiage or do they keep it all the same.

1222
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: Curious how play calling all changes. Obviously the game plan

1223
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:30,439
Speaker 1: will be different every week. You can't change everything. It's

1224
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: just you don't have enough time, and your playbook and

1225
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: the base of your plays are going to stay the same.

1226
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: But for example, with the Raiders, when they fire Josh

1227
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: and they fire Lombardi's kid, when they implement the new

1228
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: guy Bo, I don't think his name is Bo Callahan,

1229
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: but Bo something I would imagine. Once, because Mark Davis

1230
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: mandated that Aidan O'Connell start, which I don't blame him.

1231
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: You go to Aiden and you just start going over

1232
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: the plays in the playbook that he likes and he's

1233
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: comfortable with. And then you get with Josh Jacobs the

1234
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: old line Davante, you get Renfro back in the mix,

1235
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: and you try to get on the same page of

1236
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: what in the playbook they like, they're successful at, they

1237
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: feel comfortable doing with the quarterback, and you kind of

1238
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: start at square one, right, because a lot of times

1239
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: I would say, by the time you're in middle of October,

1240
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: you're running like calculus, especially if the head coach and

1241
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: the play caller have been there for a couple of years.

1242
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: It's pretty complicated. I would guess once they fire those guys,

1243
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: they kind of get way back to the fundamentals. Let's

1244
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: pick a handful of things we do well and then

1245
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: run variations off that and not overthink this. Right, what

1246
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: do you like doing Josh outside zone, We're fucking hammering

1247
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: that this week. What do you like DeVante? These three concepts?

1248
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: You and Naden work on those all week. We'll keep

1249
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: it simple stupid. So I think it's more that than

1250
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: you just wouldn't have enough time to throw away the playbook,

1251
01:07:58,400 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: and no one would even want to do this because

1252
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: it's not realistic big fields fans in Ohio State. And

1253
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: I want to know your opinion on the team you

1254
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: know best. Do you think there's a chance that Kyle

1255
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: would be interested in fields if the Bears or the

1256
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: Panthers aren't a top two pick. No, I do not.

1257
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 1: He did not like him at all coming out. I

1258
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: think he would like him way less now coming out.

1259
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: So do you think the forty nine ers could possibly

1260
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: elevate their ceiling bringing field? The forty nine ers are

1261
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: not in the justin fields mix no matter what, unless

1262
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: they get for cheap. And he was like their third

1263
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 1: string quarterback when when in that draft Kyle Shannon, he

1264
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: was not even an option. It was a two horse race,

1265
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, Trey Lance. He did not like him. Can

1266
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: we stop calling the Eagles play the tush push? Brotherly

1267
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: shove is so much better? I personal kind of like

1268
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: Tush push. That fucking play doesn't just work. They gain

1269
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: like three yards. Honestly, you could run that plant first down.

1270
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 1: If you just ran that plan first it'd be like

1271
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 1: second and six. When does that play ever just gain

1272
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: a yard? I watched so many other quarterback sneaks. I

1273
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: got it, he get that god Dak Prescott, he short

1274
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: got Derek Carr so many other quarterback sneaks. The guy

1275
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: is barely getting half a yard that play, the one

1276
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: they ran on the goal line where they were kind

1277
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: of pinned and Micah Parsons jumped on I couldn't tell

1278
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: if he jumped on Jalen's back or the center's back,

1279
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Eleven just went for like

1280
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: three yards toward his own end zone. Like his play,

1281
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: this is unstoppable. It's not even just unstoppable, it's very

1282
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: effective for multiple yards. I think you could on fourth

1283
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: and two, you could run that play because I think

1284
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: you can gain two yards. Washington has looked pretty good

1285
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: on offense this year. Maybe it's time to give Eric

1286
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: being of me some props. Well, don't they lead the

1287
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: league in sacks? Like their quarterback was on record to

1288
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: break David Carr's record in terms of sacks in a season.

1289
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: All Eric Bienemy does is call passes. He's like Steve Sarkisian.

1290
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: Is he a good offensive coordinator? I think that is

1291
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: more than up for debate. Their quarterback has been getting

1292
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: fucking killed. I'm a Cowboys fan. I'm calling it now.

1293
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: Trey Lance will be our starter next year. I don't

1294
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: even know what I'm ready. I appreciate the DM, but Josh,

1295
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: there is not a snowballs chance in hell you could

1296
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: blindfold Dak Prescott. I could tie one of his arms

1297
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: behind his back and Trey Lance could not beat him

1298
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: outa in training camp. Do you understand how much better

1299
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: Cooper Rushes than Trey Lance, let alone the starting quarterback,

1300
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: and we can nitpick Dak all we want. Dak is

1301
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: in a different universe than Trey. Trey is gonna go

1302
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: three years without started four games. One he's just not

1303
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: that good, and two he doesn't ever get to play

1304
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: to improve. Absolutely no chance Trey Lance your starter next year.

1305
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: Zero better chance of someone else owning the Cowboys next

1306
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: year than the Jones family than Trey Lance starting. I mean,

1307
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: obviously if Dak has a major injury or something, but

1308
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: just based on like, we're just gonna name this guy

1309
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: the starter. At no chance he's your third string quarterback

1310
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: right now. If Dak Prescott got hurt, he wouldn't even

1311
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 1: start next week. You find it easier to tell if

1312
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: someone is good a good college coach or good NFL coach.

1313
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 1: It seems like in the NFL, coaches are entirely limited

1314
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 1: by their quarterback. In college, it seems like the program

1315
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: quality is correlated with most coaching records. I think it

1316
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: just depends, right. You could be a good coach and

1317
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 1: at a school where it's hard to win. Right. So

1318
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: if like Jonathan Smith at Oregon State, I think he's

1319
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: an absolute stud, but he's never gonna win eleven games.

1320
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: But if you're winning eight nine games at Oregon State,

1321
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 1: that's an incredible accomplishment, right. Like if Dan Lanning every

1322
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 1: year won nine games, it's like, is he that good

1323
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: of a coach? But Dan Lanning's hell, he's competing in

1324
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: the last two years to win ten to eleven twelve games, right.

1325
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: So to me, what program you're at, it's relative to

1326
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: how much success you have to have. Like Lincoln going

1327
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: eight and four this year disaster, right, But if Lincoln

1328
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: was going eight and four at Vanderbilt, be an incredible year.

1329
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: It's like Mike Leach was at Washington State. At Texas Tech,

1330
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: you win eight nine games, fucking awesome. You put him

1331
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: at Alabama, LSU or Georgia you can't go nine and three, right.

1332
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: It's like Tyler from the dude that called in that

1333
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 1: Dabbo yelled at where I will defend that kid. It's

1334
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: stupid when it's like, do you think you're earning your money?

1335
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 1: Like I get why Dabbo gets defensive, he's he gets angry.

1336
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: But Dabo, listen, you can rattle off all the stats

1337
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: you want of all the ten win seasons the Clemson's had,

1338
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: and you've won national champons. We get it. You're a

1339
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: star head coach. You've won a ton of games, you

1340
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: make a ton of money, and you've produced a ton

1341
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: of dudes in the league. But you're allowed to have

1342
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: a down year. Nick Saban's had some it's called ten

1343
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 1: and three. If you wouldn't have won that Notre Dame game,

1344
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: you would have been headed towards six and six. And Clemson,

1345
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 1: now through your fan base, is viewed as Alabama, Georgia,

1346
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: Ohio state. Those coaches would not be able to win

1347
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: six to seven games and not have a major freakout.

1348
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: People freak out when you win nine games, like Brian

1349
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 1: Kelly this year, he's gonna have quote unquote an underwhelming

1350
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,879
Speaker 1: year and he's gonna go nine and three. Right, that's

1351
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 1: if that's your underwhelming year, no issue, no problem, right,

1352
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 1: But you go seven and five. I guess some fans,

1353
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: being like what's going on, think the NFL would ever

1354
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: consider a weekly standalone game in the nine to thirty

1355
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 1: am Eastern window. Dig in the European game Star times

1356
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: must be what Sundays feels like on the West coast,

1357
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: more real estate to claim on Sundays. Might be a

1358
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: little early for folks out west, but hey, most of

1359
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: us in the East are not stand up for the

1360
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: three weekly night games. What do you think the players

1361
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: would think of regular morning games on US soil? Yeah,

1362
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: that's not happening. There's no chance because think about this,

1363
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 1: like when the East coast, think about like Ohio State

1364
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: or Michigan game that kicks off at nine Pacific Standard time,

1365
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: it's still noon. So like the nine to thirty am game,

1366
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 1: that's that's not good for your product. I think you

1367
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: just keep you just do seven eight European games a

1368
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: year and do that kickoff spot Arizona, which I clearly

1369
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: I think it was passed in Congress or the cener

1370
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: or whatever. We're not going to do this daylight savings

1371
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: time in a couple of years ever, again, which I like,

1372
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 1: just keep the fucking clocks at the same time. For

1373
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 1: some reason, in Arizona, half the year Pacific Standard time

1374
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: and then half the year Mountain Standard time. So right

1375
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: now I'm on Mountain Standard time. I'm recording this part

1376
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,719
Speaker 1: about five o'clock in the afternoon on Monday. Typically Monday

1377
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: Night football was starting fifteen minutes. But now that I'm

1378
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: on Mountain Standard time, I gotta wait another hour and

1379
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: ten minutes for the game start. So it's like, I

1380
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're doing. But my point is

1381
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 1: when that game came on. Sometimes, you know, Sunday a

1382
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: little sleep in, especially if I had a few pops

1383
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: or maybe went to dinner or whatever on Saturday night.

1384
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: Not a crazy party or anything, but I might get

1385
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: up at seven point thirty whatever eight o'clock on Sunday,

1386
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: one of the only days of the week where I

1387
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: really sleep in. And this week, and I even went

1388
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: out to dinner and went out on Saturday, I woke

1389
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: up at about seven fifteen. I was like, Ah, the

1390
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: game's on. Usually I missed minimum the first half. I

1391
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 1: watched that entire game. So I'm with you. You on

1392
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: the East Coast, you got a pretty good that that

1393
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: nine thirty kickoffs pretty awesome, So I guess that's a

1394
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: long winded way of saying I can't see them doing

1395
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: this in the States, but I do think they're just

1396
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 1: gonna have more and more international games, which clearly they like. Okay,

1397
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: last question, loyal ole miss follower here watching Lane Kiffin

1398
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: and A and M as I type this, But question

1399
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: is thoughts on Jimbo Fisher and A and M's future.

1400
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: Nil and transfer portal has changed college football as we know,

1401
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: but what is keeping A and M and Jimbo from

1402
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 1: getting over the hump to becoming a top tier college

1403
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: football program. They have lots of money with Texas oil, money,

1404
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: in state talent, Jimbo Fisher is relatively qualified head coach,

1405
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: but it just doesn't seem like they're gonna be a

1406
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: ten win team regularly. I know that this is a

1407
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: great example of money can't buy you a championship with

1408
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,759
Speaker 1: the talent, but any thoughts, see I kind of called bullshit.

1409
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: Look at Texas. Money is literally buying them a twelve

1410
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 1: to one team that's gonna go to the playoffs if

1411
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: Sark just doesn't screw it up. Money bought that team literally.

1412
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: I think they have the highest payroll in all of

1413
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 1: college football. I've been told that by multiple people. And

1414
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 1: obviously there are several programs spending a lot of money.

1415
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 1: They're right there with A and M spending the most.

1416
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: So to me, Jimbo, we just talked about this, like

1417
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: how we judge coaches like Arthur Smith, Like I could

1418
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: just watch our Smith. He's not as good as a

1419
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: head coach as he was as an offensive coordinator, and

1420
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 1: some guys get overwhelmed in that position. Josh McDaniel's another

1421
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: great example. Make him a head coach like Jesus Christ?

1422
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: What the hell is going on here yet? In college? Right?

1423
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 1: Like it's relative to the school you're at. Look at

1424
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: what Lane Kiffin is doing at Ole Miss. When I

1425
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: was in college or growing up, to me, Old Miss

1426
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 1: was always a school that had some sweet players an

1427
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 1: Eli Patrick Willis, but look at their records. A lot

1428
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: of times they were struggling to just get ball eligible,

1429
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: win six seven games. I looked up yesterday, He's winning

1430
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: that game against Jimbo, who has a much better roster

1431
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: than him, and Lane's I don't know, at minimum headed

1432
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: to be ten and two. What a freaking season by

1433
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin. So, like you watch Lane Kiffin what he's

1434
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: doing at Ole Miss, imagine giving him Oregon or Texas

1435
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 1: or Florida, You're not gonna lose because he's proving over

1436
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 1: and over and over again that schematically he can coach

1437
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 1: and he can get guys to overachieve. Imagine if he

1438
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: had the budget to get the good talent. I would

1439
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: take Lane in a heartbeat over Sark. Now, some say

1440
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: that Sark actually, especially at this point, a little more

1441
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: buttoned up as a program. Lane. You know, I don't

1442
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: really know how to describe it, but depending on who

1443
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: you talk to, you can get some different versions of Lane. All.

1444
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: I know, I judge people on how their team looks,

1445
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 1: and I watched Lane's team at Ole Miss fucking takedown

1446
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,719
Speaker 1: people left and right. I mean, the dude this year

1447
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 1: beat LSU and A and M. Again, he's not gonna

1448
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 1: beat Bama. Okay, He's literally beating everyone else that he

1449
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: plays in that conference. So I think Jimbo might just

1450
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: be not good. I think it really might be that simple.

1451
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's a good coach at this

1452
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 1: point in time in twenty twenty three. I think he

1453
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: was good a while back. But you're either getting better

1454
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: you're getting worse, and clearly he's gotten worse. Maybe the

1455
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: time's changed on him, maybe the portal he doesn't you know,

1456
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: in terms of the way to coach guys, he can be.

1457
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 1: I've heard of major a hole in terms of apt

1458
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,839
Speaker 1: practice and his coaching style. It's one thing when Saban's

1459
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: yelling at you, Kirby's yelling at you, you know it works.

1460
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: It's like Jimbo, what you're saying even work, and it's

1461
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 1: it's an utter disaster now I know. Bruce Feldman has

1462
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: reported that he's talked to people around the program. Jimbo

1463
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 1: Fisher's buyout is over seventy five million dollars, and he

1464
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: was quoted from a source that like, the buyout will

1465
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: not be an issue. I think that's pretty crazy, Like

1466
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to get seventy five million dollars

1467
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: to pay him to go away. I don't care how

1468
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 1: rich some of your bruces are, Like you're just gonna give, Like,

1469
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 1: here's twenty million dollars, get rid of Jimbo. At like

1470
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: three people, four people pitch in. I don't know, Like

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't cut the check. And even if I had

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Speaker 1: unlimited money. It's like just so we can hire another

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Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher. So I do think once you get to

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Speaker 1: certain amounts, it's gonna get a little more difficult and

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Speaker 1: become a little more cumbersome on the whole process of

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Speaker 1: like resetting. I mean, we're at amount of money. If

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Speaker 1: this buyout was twenty seven million, I'd be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: he's done. I could see the buyout just surviving him

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Speaker 1: one more year, but no way around it. Utter disastro

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Speaker 1: at A and M. Thanks everyone for listening. Thank everyone

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes for helping out with three and Out podcasts, producers,

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Speaker 1: video producers, audio producers. We got a lot of people

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Speaker 1: at the volume. The team is kicking serious ass and

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Speaker 1: taking serious names. And thank you guys for listening to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Talk soon see it the volume