WEBVTT - How Board Breaking Works

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you should know from how Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>There's Charles W Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry over there.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is stuff you should know all about Mars.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, I mean it's all about board breaking, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>board breaking. I gotta keep them straight. Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to explain what you just said? Sure? So. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when we pick our topics, one of us will send

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<v Speaker 1>a topic, the other one will send a different topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we go off and do our research, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we come back together and record it. That's the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you should know, way right, that's the way. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to preface this by saying we have more than

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand episodes that we've done. Okay, to bear that

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<v Speaker 1>mind everybody, more than I say you, How Mars Works

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<v Speaker 1>was my pick for this week, and uh, I went

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<v Speaker 1>about and started studying. I think you did some studying

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And then I got an email from you

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<v Speaker 1>this morning, early this morning saying, um, we've already done

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<v Speaker 1>how Mars Works. Hours of Mars research just totally wasted.

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<v Speaker 1>I know so much. I know so much about Mars

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<v Speaker 1>right now that it's never No one's ever going to

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<v Speaker 1>hear it. I'm going to take it to my grave. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So we swapped it out instead with how board breaking works,

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<v Speaker 1>which is fascinating if you ask me. Yeah, man, good

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<v Speaker 1>find Yeah I thought so too. I believe we covered

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<v Speaker 1>cart before. Who knows, Chuck? Who has any idea? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Jill Hurley knows. Yes, Jill Hurley, our minister of status,

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<v Speaker 1>usually keeps track of this stuff. But she does. We

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<v Speaker 1>should just start emailing her every time we have an

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<v Speaker 1>idea instead instead of looking at the spreadsheet that she

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<v Speaker 1>sends us exactly like a couple of dopes. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but board breaking I'm a sure we did not do before. No, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And we might as well go ahead and do a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of things. First of all, c o A and say,

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<v Speaker 1>do not try to break boards or anything with your

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<v Speaker 1>hands and feet unless you were trained to do so. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get inspired by this show. If you are inspired,

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<v Speaker 1>be inspired to go take up martial arts because from all,

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<v Speaker 1>from everything I can find, it's a really great um

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<v Speaker 1>thing to get into martial arts. Yeah, it is. It

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<v Speaker 1>teaches you focus and discipline and training and strength and

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<v Speaker 1>self confidence and actually, like the injury rate is really

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<v Speaker 1>really low, way lower than you would think. Um, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually pretty good sport to get into. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing to point out early on is, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it is not just boards, but concrete blocks and glass

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<v Speaker 1>and ice and what else. Glass I think is much

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<v Speaker 1>more just for looks. Yeah. There's this one guy who

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<v Speaker 1>who I found because I was kind of looking up

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<v Speaker 1>records and things, and I'll get to that later, but

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember his name, but he seems to make

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<v Speaker 1>a big show about chopping through a bunch of glass.

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<v Speaker 1>If he could punch a hole clear through some glass

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<v Speaker 1>without breaking the glass fish shape hole like a cartoon Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like a bullet hole, but with a fist. Now, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be super impressive breaking a bunch of glass. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's not hard, And we'll find out why it's

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<v Speaker 1>not hard later on, because we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the physics of this chuck, which I'm a little psyched about. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And another thing that I didn't see in my research

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<v Speaker 1>that I always heard, which maybe a wives tale, is

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<v Speaker 1>that when they do the thing where they stack a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of boards, that like you're really just breaking the

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<v Speaker 1>first board and then the other boards break the other boards.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true? Yeah? Yeah, so that was something that

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<v Speaker 1>I came across this. So board breaking, at least in

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<v Speaker 1>Japan is called tamashawari. And there's fake tami shiwari, which

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<v Speaker 1>is probably of the tamashwari out there, and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>actual real tamashwari, which you have to be basically insane

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<v Speaker 1>to try, even as like a black belt um karate person.

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<v Speaker 1>But what do you mean by fake if instead of fake,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll call it physics assisted, Okay, Whereas with like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that one percent of tamashawari, it's it is what it

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<v Speaker 1>it appears to be. You're you're really punching through like

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<v Speaker 1>a big thick piece of wood or something like that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would love to cover the very beginnings

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<v Speaker 1>of this article though, because I thought I had never

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<v Speaker 1>heard that story about the the legend of the origins

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<v Speaker 1>of pin Jack's a lot take us the story Bill Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's an island called uh bawean Uh in ancient Indonesia,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is main mainly legend, but who knows it

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<v Speaker 1>might have come down like this, But supposedly there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lady there named Rama Sukana, who was washing her

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<v Speaker 1>close in the river, looked up saw some monkeys fighting

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<v Speaker 1>in the trees and really sort of got into studying

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<v Speaker 1>them and how they fought each other. Started practicing that

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<v Speaker 1>out by the river banks. Took so much time. She

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<v Speaker 1>came home and her husband was ticked off and was like,

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<v Speaker 1>where's my dinner? And because this is ancient times, it's

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<v Speaker 1>fully okay for me to two abuse you because my

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<v Speaker 1>dinner is not on the table. And she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, no, no, I now know the way of

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<v Speaker 1>the monkey. And she she fought him back and it worked,

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<v Speaker 1>and it kept working. He kept coming at her and

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<v Speaker 1>she kept just going kabat foot and oh ah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and she kept putting him on his butt so much

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<v Speaker 1>so that he said, master trained me. Yeah. See that's

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<v Speaker 1>where the story loses me, where he's just he gives

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<v Speaker 1>up and says, you're pretty good at this. I gotta admit,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you say you teach the old man? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's uh, that's what they call when you

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<v Speaker 1>can't beat them, join them. Yeah, but it's a good story.

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<v Speaker 1>And as the origins of the Indonesian martial art, pent

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<v Speaker 1>jacks a lot, yeah, which I thought that was very

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<v Speaker 1>very odd that this was included in this article because

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<v Speaker 1>I looked up pen jack, so pen Jack's a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looked like it was very much into fighting

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<v Speaker 1>with knives and spears, way more than breaking boards are

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<v Speaker 1>using open handed stuff, and that's no monkey stuff. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it is based on strikes in the

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<v Speaker 1>animal kingdom, not just monkeys, but like cobra strikes and

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<v Speaker 1>and using like those kind of like approaches, but rather

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<v Speaker 1>than with your empty hand, it's you're using knives. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why that was included instead. Karate um

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<v Speaker 1>is much more associated with board breaking. Again, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese word for board breaking, tami shawari. Yeah, and did

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<v Speaker 1>you know that cobra kai actually means knife wielding cobra?

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<v Speaker 1>Does it really? Yeah? Well, I mean it could. It

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<v Speaker 1>could be like cobra and knife, and you could just

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<v Speaker 1>interpret it his knife wheeling cobra rather than a knife

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<v Speaker 1>made out of a cobra. Could you imagine anything more

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<v Speaker 1>terrifying than a cobra holding a knife? No? No, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a deranged karate monkey with the cobra wielding and knife,

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<v Speaker 1>or an alligator with an assault rifle. Yeah, that's pretty scary,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty scary. So karate is meant to be done with

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<v Speaker 1>open hand. It actually means open hand, empty hand, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the two. Yeah, And the origins of karate

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<v Speaker 1>apparently came from when the peasantry was stripped of their

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<v Speaker 1>weapons in the sixteenth and seventeenth century because the Japanese government,

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<v Speaker 1>feudal government, said, we're worried you guys don't don't really

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<v Speaker 1>like our policies as much as you pretend to, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're afraid you're gonna rebel, so we're gonna take all

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<v Speaker 1>your weapons. So they developed a empty hand technique for fighting,

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<v Speaker 1>which was karate, and again part of karate. Over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not exactly sure where temi shawari originator when I

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<v Speaker 1>should say, but over the years, the idea of breaking

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<v Speaker 1>boards is a demonstration of skill and training and focus

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<v Speaker 1>and strength um has developed to where now to me

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<v Speaker 1>it's basically synonymous with martial arts. Yeah, breaking some boards,

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, and they had in here. I'm not so

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<v Speaker 1>sure this is right that they turned to breaking boards

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<v Speaker 1>because hitting people wasn't a thing that you should do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that's quite right, is it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure, Man, I really am not sure that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like the origin of it, no idea. I

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<v Speaker 1>did see that there's um, you know, it's been around

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<v Speaker 1>for a little while, and there are some customary and

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<v Speaker 1>traditional like um things with the board, like for example,

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<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to use cedar specific type of cedar or

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<v Speaker 1>drake um, and there's things like that. But no, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see where it came from or exactly why other

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<v Speaker 1>than somebody. Maybe somebody was punching through a door and

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<v Speaker 1>that looked pretty cool, and so they started punching through doors,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the doors got smaller, and then you have

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<v Speaker 1>Tamashawari board breaking. Well, what we do know that there

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<v Speaker 1>is a human instinct to not punch something uh with

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<v Speaker 1>no give, Like there is an ingrained instinct to pull

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<v Speaker 1>back when you go to hit a wall or to

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<v Speaker 1>punch a board or something like that, or a person even. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk a little bit more about that in

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes. But I thought this is really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>this other article you sent just about how strong bones

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<v Speaker 1>are and kind of what happens when you hit another person. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, if you stop and think about it

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<v Speaker 1>breaking through a board, it looks awesome because it is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty impressive. But your your bone and your hand and

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<v Speaker 1>your foot and your leg are actually way more impressive

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<v Speaker 1>than would because they are capable of doing some amazing stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you stop and think about it, your bone

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<v Speaker 1>is capable of withstanding tremendous amounts of pressure and force.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, you can use that bone

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<v Speaker 1>to break another bone, which is kind of paradoxical, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's pretty neat. So yeah, there's there's if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at bone, there's a lot of stress you can

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<v Speaker 1>put it on before it's going to break. Yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 1>uh a cubic inch of bone. And they point out

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<v Speaker 1>this article in principle, I'm sure there are, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people like Samuel Jackson an Unbreakable Mr Glass, Sure he

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<v Speaker 1>had a physical condition. I think they're doing another movie

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<v Speaker 1>of of him and the guy from uh, what was

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<v Speaker 1>the most recent one that Split? Split. Yeah, they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>like basically a sequel to Split featuring Mr Glass and

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Willis. It's all, oh, wow, that's gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks pretty good to me so far. I went

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<v Speaker 1>back and rewatched Unbreakable, and I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>much better than I thought it was the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good movie. I totally agree. I think people

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<v Speaker 1>expected well, I think it it got it to do

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, but it was a movie about the

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<v Speaker 1>beginnings of a It was just an ultralong origin story, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which you didn't realize until about two thirds of the

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<v Speaker 1>way through, you know, and then you really got it

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<v Speaker 1>at the end. But yeah, I think everybody was expecting,

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<v Speaker 1>give me another sixth sense, baby, kind of need that jolt,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, he just never delivered like he did on

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<v Speaker 1>the sixth sense. So he's kind of cursed by it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why you have to go back years later

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<v Speaker 1>and see it again. You're like, oh, now that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>out of like the six cents junkiness, I I can

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate Unbreakable and the Village too. I saw that in

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<v Speaker 1>le two and I'm like, this is better than I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was. Yeah. That was Manky's pick on movie Crush.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, yeah, yeah, that was yes, totally kind

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<v Speaker 1>of on the nose for Airmankey. Yeah. Um, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So Mr glass aside, though, in principle, a bone can

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<v Speaker 1>bear a load of nineteen thousand pounds or more, and

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<v Speaker 1>that makes it as your correct article said four times

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<v Speaker 1>as strong as concrete, whereas R said forty times. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who cares, which is not correct. Right, So this this

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<v Speaker 1>is I think a Live science article I found this in.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you balanced five American pickup trucks, says standard

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<v Speaker 1>pickup truck. So I'm just gonna go with a one fifty. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I wasn't gonna say for it. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you were in the know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just going to leave it at that. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>balance five Ford f one fifties nose to tail um

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<v Speaker 1>on top of your armbone, theoretically it should be able

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<v Speaker 1>to hold that up. You would wish that you were dead,

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<v Speaker 1>but your armbone would just be like, oh god, this

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna break, and it might not break. But

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<v Speaker 1>again the point is this. That is the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>actual weight, but weight can actually be combined in other

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<v Speaker 1>ways and delivered an other way. So if you delivered

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<v Speaker 1>far far less than that with um a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>velocity um, your your bone would just snap right in two.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of variables they're including not just

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<v Speaker 1>how that amount of weight is delivered in what what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of force, but also your age, your health. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff, but like you said, generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>your bone, a cubic inch of bone could bear nine

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<v Speaker 1>pounds or about eight thousand, six hundreds of weight. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And although this is gets away from board breaking, it

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<v Speaker 1>was in the article sent and I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>super interesting. When it comes to getting in a fistfight

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<v Speaker 1>or boxing. When someone gets knocked out by a punch,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not necessarily because they get hit so hard in

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<v Speaker 1>the head. It's that there if you hit someone in

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<v Speaker 1>the cheek, you know, right there, and the and the

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<v Speaker 1>kisser and the jaw, it's the head spin that does it.

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<v Speaker 1>So if your head spins around, uh from zero to

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<v Speaker 1>forty three RPMs in a second, your your head stresses

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<v Speaker 1>out and the brain shuts down as a protection. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea of getting knocked out chance if

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<v Speaker 1>it's up to RPMs. So that's why boxers built up

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<v Speaker 1>their neck muscles so their head doesn't snap to the

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<v Speaker 1>side as much. Yeah, totally had no idea about any

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<v Speaker 1>of that, or getting hit in the stomach, Like when

0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the wind is knocked out of you, that's a spasm

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<v Speaker 1>of your diaphragm right right. And the reason why you

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<v Speaker 1>can make somebody's head spin like that, or make or

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<v Speaker 1>cause somebody's diaphragm to spas them is because you're concentrating

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<v Speaker 1>a tremendous amount of force in a fairly small area.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you look at the front if you make

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<v Speaker 1>a fist and then look at the front of your

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<v Speaker 1>fingers where the fist makes contact with whatever that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually a relatively small area that you're putting a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>amount of mass and velocity behind. And you combine those two,

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<v Speaker 1>you multiply those two, and you have force. And humans

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<v Speaker 1>can can concentrate a pretty pretty significant amount of force.

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<v Speaker 1>This Life Science article found that a professional boxer could

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<v Speaker 1>generate about five thousand Newton's of force, and a Newton,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, is the amount of force it takes

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<v Speaker 1>to move one kilogram one meter, which makes me want

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<v Speaker 1>to go move a kilogram a meter so bad just

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, I just used a Newton. I just

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<v Speaker 1>exerted a Newton right there? You know? Is that just

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<v Speaker 1>me that you don't want to do that too? So um.

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<v Speaker 1>A boxer can generate about five thousand Newton's of force

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<v Speaker 1>with a punch, which is about half of a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of um of force exerted on the Earth's surface. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>half a ton of force in your little your little

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<v Speaker 1>fist right there. And because four sequels mass times velocity,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can generate more um velocity and you and

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<v Speaker 1>you can use more mass, you can generate more force.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll talk more about that later on with the physics.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's just a little teaser. Yeah, And this is

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<v Speaker 1>also the point, and I've pointed this out before, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe where I would like to say that I am

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven years old and I have never punched or

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<v Speaker 1>hit anyone in my life. Nor been punched or hit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, man, never been in a fight. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of feel like I should get in a fight. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think so. I think you should feel the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>of that. You should be proud of it. Yeah, just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, I've never been in a fight. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>die having never been in a fist fight. You definitely

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to. Don't listen to fight Club. It was

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<v Speaker 1>made up, by the way. All right, should we take

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<v Speaker 1>a break, Yeah, all right, We'll take a break and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk more about board board breaking right after this,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Chuck so um when you actually break aboard,

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<v Speaker 1>we can tell you how to do that. But again

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<v Speaker 1>I want to preface it with like, just don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>go do this, don't listen to us and do this. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to do this, go check out martial arts,

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<v Speaker 1>go to your nearest O Joe and see what's going down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, But just for the sake of sharing information,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're doing here. Okay. Yes, So if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you watch somebody break aboard, you're gonna see that

0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:17.280
<v Speaker 1>there's actually like a fairly uniform shape to them. They're

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<v Speaker 1>usually about a foot wide, they're usually kind of squarish,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's something like about three quarters of an inch thick.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, like I said, traditionally, um, the wood is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be cedar, but I think these days most people,

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<v Speaker 1>uh say pine. They use pine because it's a soft

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<v Speaker 1>wood and it breaks easier than a hardwood like oak

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. Yeah, And they also suggest to

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<v Speaker 1>not have like a big not right in the center

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<v Speaker 1>of this board or hopefully anywhere on the board, but

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<v Speaker 1>definitely not where you're punching, because the center is where

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be punching. And this is usually either

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<v Speaker 1>held by somebody or you see them set up sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>with on on stands and stuff being held. Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 1>you watch Karate Kid too, when daniels Son breaks through

0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:11.480
<v Speaker 1>those six sheets of ice, I don't remember that at all.

0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.040
<v Speaker 1>They have It was like in a bar. He took

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<v Speaker 1>a bet Actually, Mr Miyagi kind of forced him to

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<v Speaker 1>take the bet um because he was being betted against

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<v Speaker 1>by Mr Miyagi's rivals. Nephew, Okay, he's got to see it,

0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.359
<v Speaker 1>but he got a good memory of Karate Kid too.

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<v Speaker 1>I just watched it like an hour ago, okay, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they had like a stand that they put these sheets

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<v Speaker 1>of ice in. It was pretty awesome, pretty cool little gizmo.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's any reason to make it unless

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<v Speaker 1>you do kind of have a bar where people break

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<v Speaker 1>ice and stuff. But it's uh, I just thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty cool. But for the most part, you see

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<v Speaker 1>somebody just standing there holding it like it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>punching target or something. Yeah, and there's I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of depends, that's if you're punching straight through with

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<v Speaker 1>your knuckles. You've also seen things stacked like spread between

0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:04.320
<v Speaker 1>two bricks, a bunch of wood stacked and you can

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<v Speaker 1>use a few techniques here at the hammer fist, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like if you were just pounding on a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on a table with your with your hand like hulk smash, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hulk smash or what's known as palm heel. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>when you yeah, with with your palm. Yeah. If I

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<v Speaker 1>saw somebody break a board like that, I would be

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<v Speaker 1>truly impressed that I have not seen. Have you seen

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<v Speaker 1>somebody break a board in real life? No? Not not

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<v Speaker 1>in person? No I haven't either. Uh. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>old knife hand, which is the classic karate chop. The

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<v Speaker 1>reason why you want to hit the center of the

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<v Speaker 1>board is myriad number one. That's where the least amount

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<v Speaker 1>of strength is in the board. It's not around the edges,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more in the center. And depending on how you're hitting,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's just go with the good old fashioned karate chop.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that one called the knife hand? Yeah, and when

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<v Speaker 1>you can all so do this these these uh with

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<v Speaker 1>kicks you can which to me it just seems terribly scary.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about you, but like I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>anything to happen to my ankle or my heel or

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<v Speaker 1>my achilles heel. Or any my toes. Nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the the punching breaking with your hands or fists,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's cool enough, But like your foot, I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>very It would take a tremendous amount of training for

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<v Speaker 1>me to get to that point. All right. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>going with the standard karate chop, right, And when you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing the standardkarate chop, so the board is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be flat relative to the earth, and you are going

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<v Speaker 1>to bring your fist down or your your karate chop

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<v Speaker 1>down going with the grain, you will have a tremendously

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<v Speaker 1>difficult time breaking the board against the grain. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to go bring the line of your hand parallel with

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<v Speaker 1>the grain. Yeah, I didn't fully get that, Okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a flat board in front of you,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're on your knees and you're like about to

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<v Speaker 1>chop it, and you hold your hold your fist up

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<v Speaker 1>like that, or hold your karate chop up like this

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<v Speaker 1>right in front of you, and you start to bring

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<v Speaker 1>it down. The grain of the wood should be going

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<v Speaker 1>the same direction as your hand. But what I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense if your hand is in karate chop

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<v Speaker 1>mode because there's a clear line. But what about when

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fist. I don't know. Maybe it matters less

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a fist. I could see it mattering more

0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:34.880
<v Speaker 1>because there's so much less surface area that's making contact

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<v Speaker 1>with the karate chop than like with the whole fist.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would guess the grain definitely would matter more

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<v Speaker 1>with that, al Right, But regardless supposedly they say going

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<v Speaker 1>with the grain is easier, Yeah, it's just easier in life.

0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:49.600
<v Speaker 1>That's a life note. Go with the grain, go with

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<v Speaker 1>the flow. Actually I don't necessarily I don't necessarily espouse that, agreed. Okay. So, um,

0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:59.640
<v Speaker 1>one of the other things you're gonna learn is um focus.

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<v Speaker 1>And you kind of touched on this earlier, but you

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:05.800
<v Speaker 1>were kind of talking about how you you want to

0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:08.720
<v Speaker 1>stop You like, if you if you go to hit

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:11.160
<v Speaker 1>a board or a piece of wood or a piece

0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>of concrete or something like that, your brain's gonna scream

0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:17.880
<v Speaker 1>stop dummy. Yeah, So how do you get over that

0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:22.240
<v Speaker 1>when you go into training where you're trained to break boards? Well,

0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean you you focus. You try to focus as

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<v Speaker 1>if the the board that you were breaking as several

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<v Speaker 1>inches behind the actual board. To participitate or encourage that

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<v Speaker 1>follow through. But they also make a very good point

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<v Speaker 1>about breathing. And if you saw Karate Kid, what does

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:44.240
<v Speaker 1>he say with all everything, remember, breathe then breathe out. Well,

0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:47.879
<v Speaker 1>they actually do that to prepare for the ice breaking. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's breathing is very important and then you know

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 1>if you hear that, yeah, I mean that's just not

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<v Speaker 1>for showboating and flair. Uh, the same way as a

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<v Speaker 1>tennis player might grunt when they hit, like Steffi Graph, No,

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:05.119
<v Speaker 1>she had, she had one of the best. Yea or no,

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 1>who's sell Us? Didn't she have a really good grunt?

0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was Steffi graph I don't remember. I

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:16.880
<v Speaker 1>definitely remember sell Us had a Yeah. Is that your impression? Yeah?

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:19.679
<v Speaker 1>That was my Monica sell Us. Okay man. Remember she

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<v Speaker 1>got stabbed on the court. Wasn't that crazy? No, I

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:24.880
<v Speaker 1>don't remember that at all. Yeah, he had. She had.

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 1>She was attacked and stabbed a tennis match by a

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:31.199
<v Speaker 1>crazed fan. Yeah, and it really derailed her career, I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine. So, I mean, like if you if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not safe on like the tennis court doing your thing,

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 1>it takes a lot of concentration to play tennis. You

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:44.440
<v Speaker 1>don't want to think about what's like coming up behind you,

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:48.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, while you're hitting a return. Good God, And

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I think most people take up tennis because you have

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<v Speaker 1>a near chance of not being stabbed. Yes, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty stabbed free pursuit. Uh So, anyway, where were

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about how um breathing in the kia

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<v Speaker 1>That is all to do with the focus, like bringing

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<v Speaker 1>that whole routine together with the breaths and the exclamation

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:16.399
<v Speaker 1>as you punch supposedly a few inches behind where the

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 1>board is. Yeah, and I actually looked that up where

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 1>he came from or what the point is, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>that's supposedly a kind of an embellishment or a flourish

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<v Speaker 1>or on the actual breathing. You don't actually have to

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<v Speaker 1>make a sound or say a word or say something

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 1>that sounds that sounds like a word that you you're

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>actually expelling breath very quickly. And the reason why you're

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 1>doing this because you're meant to be focusing on your

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 1>breath so that when you actually punch or bring your

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 1>hand down or kick or whatever, what your what your

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 1>brain is pretending it's doing is breathing, and your your

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>hand or your foot motion is just kind of a byproduct,

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 1>and it distracts you from worrying or thinking about pulling

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<v Speaker 1>your punch, because there's a real problem with pulling your punch.

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 1>If you stop, if you if you pull your punch,

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<v Speaker 1>if you try to ease off on the speed right

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:16.360
<v Speaker 1>before you hit, you're still gonna hit. But rather than

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<v Speaker 1>driving through the board or the concrete or whatever it

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:23.919
<v Speaker 1>is you're the force of that is actually going to

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<v Speaker 1>bounce off the board, won't break, and it will reverberate

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<v Speaker 1>through the board and then back up into your hand,

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's going to hurt terribly impossibly even break one

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 1>of your bones. So that natural instinct to pull up

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:40.919
<v Speaker 1>is what ends up causing the injury. Ironically, yes, so

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 1>your brain is trying to make itself safe, but your

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 1>brain hasn't really thought things through. But if you follow through,

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>like you said, if you focus on hitting a place

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 1>that's actually on the other side, beyond the board, you're

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you're more likely to keep going through to follow through.

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 1>And another reason why this is a good idea is

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 1>because I think somebody, some physicists figured out that the

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:06.880
<v Speaker 1>peak of a blow or a strike or something like

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>that occurs at about a mark of the arc or

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 1>of the downward motion or of the motion. Right, So

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 1>it's not like when you punch through or something that's

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>when you hit. It's actually happening right before possibly you

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>hit the board. So if you're if your brain is

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 1>saying don't punch that it's gonna hurt, and you already

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:35.400
<v Speaker 1>just naturally aren't delivering of the blow right then anyway,

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you're really gonna have your hand bounce off and it's

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:40.920
<v Speaker 1>going to be a problem. Should we take another break?

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Hey man? Why not? All right, we'll talk a little

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>bit more about that physics, uh in a in a

0:27:47.359 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>very special astronaut right after this. Alright, Chuck, we're back,

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 1>and I think I speak for all of the world,

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 1>and I say, what do astronauts have to do with this?

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>So this was pretty interesting to me. And apparently in

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:23.880
<v Speaker 1>the seventies a couple of physicists uh dudes that were

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 1>also martial artists I decided to sort of look into

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 1>the physics of board breaking and do that research. In

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>what they came up with was speed is the is

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the overriding factor when it comes to board breaking, right,

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Because you mentioned earlier, you know, the more you increase

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 1>that velocity or that force, or the more you increase

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>the velocity, the more you're going to increase the force. Right,

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>And you can increase your velocity just by doing something

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>as simple as pulling your fists back further before you

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 1>bring it down, give you more room, more more of

0:28:57.480 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>a head start, or something like that. Yeah, and this

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>is aim. And like it's the same with anything, whether

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 1>you're cutting a chopping a tree, or hitting a baseball.

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>You do you hear about bat speed and baseball. You know,

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you want your punch to be as fast as possible,

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>not just to catch your opponent off guard, but because

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>you generate more force in the end, right, And you

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 1>can also recruit more mass from different parts of your body.

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 1>And it's you can recruit mass more easily with a

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 1>kick than with a punch, which is why you generate

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>more Newton's of force with a kick them with a punch,

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>because you have more muscle mass that you can draw

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>from to direct out through your foot in a kick. Yeah,

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:45.959
<v Speaker 1>and you always to hear about with kicks, punches, golf swings,

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>baseball bats. It's like they say, it's in in the hips. Yeah,

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that's what Actually, that's what um Daniel Son said. Really,

0:29:55.280 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>there's a real lesson here in Hollywood history. Uh So apparently,

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>if you are a typical beginner in kata te, you

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>can get up to about twenty per second with with

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>your hand speed, which uh, in terms of math or maths,

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>is enough to break a one inch pine board. Yeah,

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>And I looked it up at I saw that something

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>about like Newton's to break a pine board. Okay, so

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>good and from what I saw, and basically any beginner

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>can walk up after about five ten minutes of instruction

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and break through a single pine board typically if they

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>do it right right. So, if you're out there saying

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Chuck still hasn't talked about the special astronaut one of

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>these physicists in the seventies, his name was Ronald Ron

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 1>McNair and he was also an astronaut, and he was

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>also played the saxomaphone, and he was all set to

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>record the very first recorded piece of music in space

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 1>in history when he boarded the A Shuttle Challenger and

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 1>as a black belt and saxomaphone player, and sadly we

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>all know how that ended. So he was the physicist

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>who did this research on board breaking as it turns out.

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Have you have you ever been to Kennedy Space Center,

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Which one's Kennedy, the one on Cape Canaveral. Yeah, yeah,

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I think so they have is they have a museum there, um,

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>just fantastic museum. And in part of it they have

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 1>like personal effects of some of the uh of all

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>of actually the Challenger and the Columbia astronauts who were lost,

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>and one of them is Ronald McNair's like karate uniform. Interesting. Yeah,

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty it's really amazing to see the way they

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>have this kind of memorial set up. It's it's it'll

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 1>bring it tear to your eye. Yeah. I mean if

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I went it was before that even happened, I would

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>have been very young. Oh yeah yeah. And I think

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>that the memorials even fairly newish. So yeah, yeah, it's

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>definitely worth a visits for for just that even but

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the whole the whole museum is really great. Yeah. We

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>should do an episode about the space shuttle disaster at

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>some point. I think you're right. It would be a good,

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>a good somber one because we did one on the

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I S S, so maybe we could do one on

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>space shuttles in general. Yeah, all right. Uh so Ron McNair,

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>long story short, he was so good he could get

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 1>his karate chop up to forty six ft per second,

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>which equates to about twenty eight hundred Newton's of force,

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>which is about a quarter ton. Yeah that's a lot. Yeah,

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>because they say it takes nineteen hundred tons I'm sorry

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Newton's to break a one and a half inch concrete slab,

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and he he could put forth Newton's right. So there

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:45.479
<v Speaker 1>you have it. It's really just physics. So it's like

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 1>at this point Chuck in in research where I was like, okay,

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, it's just physics. Is this just like

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>like um circus stuff? Is this the circus arts? Really? Is?

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>It's just fake? And did Chuck dupe me somehow weird

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>into doing another circus article? So the the the thing

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>is is, I know it's not like there are physics involved,

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 1>and you have to know what you're doing, and there's

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>definitely a wrong way, and you can injure yourself, especially

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>if you pull your punch. The more boards there are,

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the easier it would be to hurt yourself, depending on

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 1>how they're stacked. But it would be wrong to say

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>that it is that physics does not very much aid

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>in this. It's not a trick. It's not a trick,

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and it is very well thought through. And the more

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>boards you add, or the different materials you add, obviously

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the more skill you're demonstrating. But the reason why physics

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>plays a part is things like the grain, Like breaking

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>along the grain. That means that the break is going

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 1>to occur along the grain. It's gonna be a lot

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>easier for that break to propagate. Um things like if

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you look at a board. The reason why you're using

0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>something like pine rather than a hard would it's not

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 1>because hardwoods are like harder, they're more resilient. The pine

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>is going to be more brittle. So when you hit something,

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>you're creating a resonance in it. And I think this

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 1>is in the Bridges episode where if you get something

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>into its natural resonance and the natural resonance is overwhelmed,

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 1>it will break apart. That's what you're doing when you

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:24.399
<v Speaker 1>break a border, where you break concrete or something like that,

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>you're transferring force from your body into this this inanimate object,

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 1>and you're in doing so, you're creating a resonance in

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:38.760
<v Speaker 1>it that is hopefully enough to overcome the objects natural

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>resonance and break it apart. And it's you know, when

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 1>you say it like that, it seems like a slow process,

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 1>but this happens very quickly. With oak or something like that.

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>It's it's much more resilient, it's much more elastic, and

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 1>so it's going to resonate more than break it's compared

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 1>to say like pine. So there's another example of how

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 1>physics um comes in. And then also if you look

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>at things like five stacked boards that somebody's punching through,

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 1>they're not five stacked boards one right on top of

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 1>each other. Even the most battle hardened sense a in

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the universe would think two or three times before trying

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 1>that and would probably be like, I'm not going to

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 1>do that today. You'd be a moron to do that

0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>because most people would not be able to break through that.

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>But if you have space between them, that changes everything. Yes,

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:34.280
<v Speaker 1>So is that true? Is it is it the boards

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that are breaking the other boards? Yes? And are you

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:39.400
<v Speaker 1>really just breaking that first boarder? Is it the first few? No?

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Because if you think about it, if you stop right,

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.879
<v Speaker 1>if like you if you're the place where you're going

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to break through stops like say, right before the third board,

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.280
<v Speaker 1>you're you're going to break your hand on that third board.

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 1>So it does take discipline and focus and thought to

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>where you're punching beyond that fifth board. Right, Um, but yeah,

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 1>when you break through that first one, you're punching through

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>to the next one and punching through the next one.

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 1>So as each board gives way, it's helping break the

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.479
<v Speaker 1>next one. But really it's getting out of the way

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>and you're just punching through another board, and then that

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>one gets out of the way, and there's another one

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you're punching through. But it's all in just one smooth

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:21.319
<v Speaker 1>motion as you punch beyond that say, fifth board. But

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>if they're all stacked up right next to each other,

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 1>you're not punching through five five boards. You're punching through

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.400
<v Speaker 1>one board five boards thick, and then that does not

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>have that same effect because you're trying to punch the

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 1>whole thing all at once and your hands is going

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:37.799
<v Speaker 1>to turn to mush. So in theory, uh, you would

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>only be able to punch through as many boards as

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:46.879
<v Speaker 1>your arm punch length. Yes, right, Well, so here's the deal.

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Is board breaking just for show? Is that an act?

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Is there any merit to it whatsoever? And the answer

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 1>is sort of back and forth depending on who you

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 1>talk to. I think there are some martial arts purists, Well,

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 1>it depends. There's probably purists on both sides that say

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:10.799
<v Speaker 1>this is an ancient tradition that we still like to practice. Uh.

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 1>It's good for obviously recruiting people to your dojo if

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 1>you are a master board breaker in your town, But

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>then other people say, no, you know it's it is

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>only for show. Bruce leeve And said, supposedly boards don't

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:27.800
<v Speaker 1>hit back, Like what you should be doing is training

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and focusing on things and not sort of like a

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>side show trick, even though it's not a trick trick. Uh.

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:38.280
<v Speaker 1>And then it doesn't do anything to further martial arts.

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:41.360
<v Speaker 1>It's just sort of a thing to get attention. And

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I liked how this article kind of put it. It It

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>was saying, like you actually teach kids that they can

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 1>get praised for doing unimportant things like breaking through some boards,

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 1>where really they should be being praised or being trained

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 1>to do stuff that's actually useful, right, Like it it's

0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely not a true gauge of your progress as

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.800
<v Speaker 1>a martial artist. No, But like I was reading about

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the ninety six Tokyo Karate Open, I think, and it

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 1>um if you wanted to progress to the next round,

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:14.399
<v Speaker 1>you had to fight, and then you had to break

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 1>some boards and you had to break like X number

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 1>of boards and then you can move on the next round,

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:21.319
<v Speaker 1>fight break some more boards. So it's not like there's

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>it's just totally useless in the martial arts world. And

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:29.240
<v Speaker 1>the whole reason it's there is strictly to attract new students.

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Although I think it really works for that, like it

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:35.479
<v Speaker 1>does have practical use, But outside of the martial arts

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>like competition world, does it I think is the larger point. Yeah,

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to hear from martial artists and get a

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:45.399
<v Speaker 1>true insider's take on what they think about it. Yeah,

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 1>same here. Would you ever take any martial arts? I

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>took taekwondo as a youngster, and I was like, wait

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 1>a minute, wait a minute, We're just like kicking the air.

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to like, what are we doing here? And

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 1>it became very clear that there was a long path

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I had to me to wherever I wanted to be,

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I'm not doing this. I'm gonna

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:08.720
<v Speaker 1>go home and eat some twigs. Peanut butter or caramel

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 1>peanut butter. I eat caramel if it was around, but

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 1>peanut butter is always my favorite. Yeah. Did they still

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 1>make those peanut butter twigs? Yes, they do so good.

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 1>I think that's it. Huh. Yeah. I looked up some

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:23.880
<v Speaker 1>records just quickly here, like world records, to see what

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 1>was out there, and don't bother unless you have hours

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 1>to sort through this, because there are literally dozens and

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:36.880
<v Speaker 1>dozens and dozens of variations of world records. Apparently you

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<v Speaker 1>can just make anything up, and if you're the first

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<v Speaker 1>person to do that, like there are records like a

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<v Speaker 1>couple that punched through this much glass and this much time,

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<v Speaker 1>or a man who who punched through a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them are time based, like this many pieces of glass

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<v Speaker 1>while humming the theme from mash uh like, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like can just make anything up and and get I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's glass breaking ice boards, there's kicks, there's head stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>hand stuff, concrete. It's just all over the place. And

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<v Speaker 1>I finally gave up when I saw a record for

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<v Speaker 1>a guy breaking boards in free fall. So he skydived

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<v Speaker 1>and was surrounded by skydivers that would float up to

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<v Speaker 1>him and hold boards in front of his face. It

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<v Speaker 1>was very intimidating, looking like just shoving these boards in

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<v Speaker 1>his face while he's floating, and he would gather himself

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<v Speaker 1>up enough to punch through the board. And that's when

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm out. I think I'm done. That

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<v Speaker 1>guy's the world record holder for awesome. That's pretty great.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think about that. I want to combine

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<v Speaker 1>my passion for skydiving with my passion for karate. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty dumb. Last thing I had was there's

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<v Speaker 1>a legend that if you are in the UFC, the

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimate Fighting Championship or whatever, and there's a rule against

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<v Speaker 1>downward elbow strikes because it's it's thought that they're possibly lethal,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're an illegal move and they The legend is

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<v Speaker 1>is that the reason is because the UFC commissioner was

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<v Speaker 1>at a board breaking competition and saw somebody break a

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:20.839
<v Speaker 1>bunch of like boards or concrete with their elbow and

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<v Speaker 1>did not realize that there's a lot of physics involved

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and went back and like immediately made this rule no

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 1>downward elbow strikes. It's obviously you can kill a man

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 1>like that because I saw some dude breaks and boards

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<v Speaker 1>with his elbow. Isn't that interesting? Yeah, I don't watch

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:39.040
<v Speaker 1>uh you need that stuff, So I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just so brutal. Man. Yeah, I can watch boxing all

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:46.360
<v Speaker 1>day long, but ultimate fighting it's, oh my god, it's brutal.

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I used to love boxing growing up. It's it holds up. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I think when when the heavyweight division sort of

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<v Speaker 1>got less interesting post Tyson. Oh yeah, yeah, I just

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I was into a girl going up with like the

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<v Speaker 1>legends like Marvin Hagler and Roberto Duran and Sugarade Leonard

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 1>and Tyson and Spinks and Homes. It just ali. Of

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:11.760
<v Speaker 1>course it was. It was one of the premier sports.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just I don't know. When you when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out which clich Ko brother is who,

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm just kind of done. So yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>anything about it. I guess post Tyson, now that I

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<v Speaker 1>think about, I don't know anybody's name post Tyson. To

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<v Speaker 1>tell you the truth, as far as heavyweights are concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bunch of clitch cos that's all. Okay, Well

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 1>that explain to it. Clitch cos Well, if you want

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to know more about board breaking, go get into martial arts.

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<v Speaker 1>I strongly recommend it, even though I didn't. Don't make

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<v Speaker 1>the same mistake I did. Ah, And since I said

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<v Speaker 1>that it's time for listener mail, alright, I'm gonna call

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<v Speaker 1>this pin setters. We heard from quite a few people

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>who were pin setters or had relatives that were pin setters,

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 1>and this one I thought was very sweet. Just enjoy

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 1>jobs of bygone eras guys. And I remembered that my

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 1>dad once worked as a pin setter and his ute.

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I called him and talked to him about his experiences

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<v Speaker 1>after your show, and here a few highlights the nine

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<v Speaker 1>sixty and he was twelve. This is Cleveland, Ohio, and

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.799
<v Speaker 1>he remembered that this particular bowling alley was the last one,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess in Cleveland to convert to automatic setting. He

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:27.359
<v Speaker 1>was paid two cents of frame or twenty cents per game. Uh.

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Bowlers would slide nickels, dimes, and quarters down the lane

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:34.400
<v Speaker 1>as a tip. Oh that's pretty cool. Yeah, And you

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 1>had to be quick to snatch up your tip because

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:40.040
<v Speaker 1>sometimes they would try to snipe you with a ball.

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess awful setters were responsible for three to four

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 1>lanes at a time, and he worked on a slightly

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:48.880
<v Speaker 1>elevated catwalk. My dad was hit several times with pins

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 1>and he said it was just part of the job,

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<v Speaker 1>and the bowlers made him mad. He would offset one

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<v Speaker 1>of the rear pins to decrease the chance of a

0:43:55.719 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 1>strike for him sticking into the man. This is from

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<v Speaker 1>Ray Hovorka, and he says, thanks a lot. My dad

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<v Speaker 1>is seventy now and always lights up when he gets

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:08.080
<v Speaker 1>a chance to regale in his youth. So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>Ray Hovorka and Mr Hovorka for your work as a

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<v Speaker 1>pin setter. Captain Doc Havorca Esquire. That's raised dad's name. Now, Okay,

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