1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should know from how Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: There's Charles W Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry over there. 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: And this is stuff you should know all about Mars. 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: Oh wait, I mean it's all about board breaking, that's right, 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: board breaking. I gotta keep them straight. Do you want 7 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: to explain what you just said? Sure? So. Um, you know, 8 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: when we pick our topics, one of us will send 9 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: a topic, the other one will send a different topic. 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: Then we go off and do our research, and then 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: we come back together and record it. That's the stuff 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: you should know, way right, that's the way. Um. I 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: want to preface this by saying we have more than 14 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: a thousand episodes that we've done. Okay, to bear that 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: mind everybody, more than I say you, How Mars Works 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: was my pick for this week, and uh, I went 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: about and started studying. I think you did some studying 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: as well. And then I got an email from you 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: this morning, early this morning saying, um, we've already done 20 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: how Mars Works. Hours of Mars research just totally wasted. 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: I know so much. I know so much about Mars 22 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: right now that it's never No one's ever going to 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: hear it. I'm going to take it to my grave. Yeah. 24 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: So we swapped it out instead with how board breaking works, 25 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: which is fascinating if you ask me. Yeah, man, good 26 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: find Yeah I thought so too. I believe we covered 27 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: cart before. Who knows, Chuck? Who has any idea? Well, 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: Jill Hurley knows. Yes, Jill Hurley, our minister of status, 29 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: usually keeps track of this stuff. But she does. We 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: should just start emailing her every time we have an 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: idea instead instead of looking at the spreadsheet that she 32 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: sends us exactly like a couple of dopes. Yeah. No, 33 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: but board breaking I'm a sure we did not do before. No, uh, 34 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: And we might as well go ahead and do a 35 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: couple of things. First of all, c o A and say, 36 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: do not try to break boards or anything with your 37 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: hands and feet unless you were trained to do so. Yes, 38 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: don't get inspired by this show. If you are inspired, 39 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: be inspired to go take up martial arts because from all, 40 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: from everything I can find, it's a really great um 41 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: thing to get into martial arts. Yeah, it is. It 42 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: teaches you focus and discipline and training and strength and 43 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: self confidence and actually, like the injury rate is really 44 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: really low, way lower than you would think. Um, so 45 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: it's actually pretty good sport to get into. Yeah. And 46 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: the other thing to point out early on is, uh, 47 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: it is not just boards, but concrete blocks and glass 48 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: and ice and what else. Glass I think is much 49 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: more just for looks. Yeah. There's this one guy who 50 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: who I found because I was kind of looking up 51 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: records and things, and I'll get to that later, but 52 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: I can't remember his name, but he seems to make 53 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: a big show about chopping through a bunch of glass. 54 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: If he could punch a hole clear through some glass 55 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: without breaking the glass fish shape hole like a cartoon Yeah, 56 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: like a bullet hole, but with a fist. Now, that 57 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: would be super impressive breaking a bunch of glass. I mean, 58 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: that's that's not hard, And we'll find out why it's 59 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: not hard later on, because we're going to talk about 60 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: the physics of this chuck, which I'm a little psyched about. Yeah. 61 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: And another thing that I didn't see in my research 62 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: that I always heard, which maybe a wives tale, is 63 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: that when they do the thing where they stack a 64 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: bunch of boards, that like you're really just breaking the 65 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: first board and then the other boards break the other boards. 66 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: Is that true? Yeah? Yeah, so that was something that 67 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: I came across this. So board breaking, at least in 68 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: Japan is called tamashawari. And there's fake tami shiwari, which 69 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: is probably of the tamashwari out there, and then there's 70 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: actual real tamashwari, which you have to be basically insane 71 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: to try, even as like a black belt um karate person. 72 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: But what do you mean by fake if instead of fake, 73 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: we'll call it physics assisted, Okay, Whereas with like that, 74 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: that one percent of tamashawari, it's it is what it 75 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: it appears to be. You're you're really punching through like 76 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: a big thick piece of wood or something like that. Well, 77 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: I think I would love to cover the very beginnings 78 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: of this article though, because I thought I had never 79 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: heard that story about the the legend of the origins 80 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: of pin Jack's a lot take us the story Bill Chuck. 81 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: So there's an island called uh bawean Uh in ancient Indonesia, 82 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: and this is main mainly legend, but who knows it 83 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: might have come down like this, But supposedly there was 84 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: a lady there named Rama Sukana, who was washing her 85 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: close in the river, looked up saw some monkeys fighting 86 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: in the trees and really sort of got into studying 87 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: them and how they fought each other. Started practicing that 88 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: out by the river banks. Took so much time. She 89 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: came home and her husband was ticked off and was like, 90 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: where's my dinner? And because this is ancient times, it's 91 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: fully okay for me to two abuse you because my 92 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: dinner is not on the table. And she was like, 93 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, I now know the way of 94 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: the monkey. And she she fought him back and it worked, 95 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: and it kept working. He kept coming at her and 96 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: she kept just going kabat foot and oh ah, right, 97 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: and she kept putting him on his butt so much 98 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: so that he said, master trained me. Yeah. See that's 99 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: where the story loses me, where he's just he gives 100 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: up and says, you're pretty good at this. I gotta admit, 101 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: what do you say you teach the old man? Right? 102 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: I think that's uh, that's what they call when you 103 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: can't beat them, join them. Yeah, but it's a good story. 104 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: And as the origins of the Indonesian martial art, pent 105 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: jacks a lot, yeah, which I thought that was very 106 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: very odd that this was included in this article because 107 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: I looked up pen jack, so pen Jack's a lot, 108 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: and it looked like it was very much into fighting 109 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: with knives and spears, way more than breaking boards are 110 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: using open handed stuff, and that's no monkey stuff. No, 111 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: but I think it is based on strikes in the 112 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: animal kingdom, not just monkeys, but like cobra strikes and 113 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: and using like those kind of like approaches, but rather 114 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: than with your empty hand, it's you're using knives. So 115 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: I don't know why that was included instead. Karate um 116 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: is much more associated with board breaking. Again, there's a 117 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: Japanese word for board breaking, tami shawari. Yeah, and did 118 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: you know that cobra kai actually means knife wielding cobra? 119 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: Does it really? Yeah? Well, I mean it could. It 120 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: could be like cobra and knife, and you could just 121 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: interpret it his knife wheeling cobra rather than a knife 122 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: made out of a cobra. Could you imagine anything more 123 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: terrifying than a cobra holding a knife? No? No, maybe 124 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: a deranged karate monkey with the cobra wielding and knife, 125 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: or an alligator with an assault rifle. Yeah, that's pretty scary, 126 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: pretty scary. So karate is meant to be done with 127 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: open hand. It actually means open hand, empty hand, right, yeah, 128 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: one of the two. Yeah, And the origins of karate 129 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: apparently came from when the peasantry was stripped of their 130 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: weapons in the sixteenth and seventeenth century because the Japanese government, 131 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: feudal government, said, we're worried you guys don't don't really 132 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: like our policies as much as you pretend to, and 133 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: we're afraid you're gonna rebel, so we're gonna take all 134 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: your weapons. So they developed a empty hand technique for fighting, 135 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: which was karate, and again part of karate. Over the years, 136 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure where temi shawari originator when I 137 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: should say, but over the years, the idea of breaking 138 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: boards is a demonstration of skill and training and focus 139 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: and strength um has developed to where now to me 140 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: it's basically synonymous with martial arts. Yeah, breaking some boards, 141 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: uh yeah, and they had in here. I'm not so 142 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: sure this is right that they turned to breaking boards 143 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: because hitting people wasn't a thing that you should do. 144 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: But I don't think that's quite right, is it. I'm 145 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: not sure, Man, I really am not sure that's what 146 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like the origin of it, no idea. I 147 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: did see that there's um, you know, it's been around 148 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: for a little while, and there are some customary and 149 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: traditional like um things with the board, like for example, 150 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: you're supposed to use cedar specific type of cedar or 151 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: drake um, and there's things like that. But no, I 152 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: didn't see where it came from or exactly why other 153 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: than somebody. Maybe somebody was punching through a door and 154 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: that looked pretty cool, and so they started punching through doors, 155 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: and then the doors got smaller, and then you have 156 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: Tamashawari board breaking. Well, what we do know that there 157 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: is a human instinct to not punch something uh with 158 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: no give, Like there is an ingrained instinct to pull 159 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: back when you go to hit a wall or to 160 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: punch a board or something like that, or a person even. Yeah, 161 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: and we'll talk a little bit more about that in 162 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: a few minutes. But I thought this is really interesting 163 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: this other article you sent just about how strong bones 164 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: are and kind of what happens when you hit another person. Yeah, 165 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: So I mean, if you stop and think about it 166 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: breaking through a board, it looks awesome because it is 167 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: pretty impressive. But your your bone and your hand and 168 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: your foot and your leg are actually way more impressive 169 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: than would because they are capable of doing some amazing stuff. 170 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: And if you stop and think about it, your bone 171 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: is capable of withstanding tremendous amounts of pressure and force. 172 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you can use that bone 173 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: to break another bone, which is kind of paradoxical, you know. Yeah, 174 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: but it's pretty neat. So yeah, there's there's if you 175 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: look at bone, there's a lot of stress you can 176 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: put it on before it's going to break. Yeah, so, 177 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: uh a cubic inch of bone. And they point out 178 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: this article in principle, I'm sure there are, you know, 179 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: people like Samuel Jackson an Unbreakable Mr Glass, Sure he 180 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: had a physical condition. I think they're doing another movie 181 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: of of him and the guy from uh, what was 182 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: the most recent one that Split? Split. Yeah, they're doing 183 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: like basically a sequel to Split featuring Mr Glass and 184 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: Bruce Willis. It's all, oh, wow, that's gonna be good. 185 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: It looks pretty good to me so far. I went 186 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: back and rewatched Unbreakable, and I was like, this is 187 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: much better than I thought it was the first time. 188 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: It's a good movie. I totally agree. I think people 189 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: expected well, I think it it got it to do 190 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: at the time, but it was a movie about the 191 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: beginnings of a It was just an ultralong origin story, right, 192 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: which you didn't realize until about two thirds of the 193 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: way through, you know, and then you really got it 194 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: at the end. But yeah, I think everybody was expecting, 195 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: give me another sixth sense, baby, kind of need that jolt, 196 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: and uh, he just never delivered like he did on 197 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: the sixth sense. So he's kind of cursed by it, 198 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: which is why you have to go back years later 199 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: and see it again. You're like, oh, now that I'm 200 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: out of like the six cents junkiness, I I can 201 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 1: appreciate Unbreakable and the Village too. I saw that in 202 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: le two and I'm like, this is better than I 203 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: thought it was. Yeah. That was Manky's pick on movie Crush. 204 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, yeah, yeah, that was yes, totally kind 205 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: of on the nose for Airmankey. Yeah. Um, all right, 206 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: So Mr glass aside, though, in principle, a bone can 207 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: bear a load of nineteen thousand pounds or more, and 208 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: that makes it as your correct article said four times 209 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: as strong as concrete, whereas R said forty times. Yeah, 210 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: who cares, which is not correct. Right, So this this 211 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: is I think a Live science article I found this in. 212 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: But if you balanced five American pickup trucks, says standard 213 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: pickup truck. So I'm just gonna go with a one fifty. Yeah. 214 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: Well I wasn't gonna say for it. I was just 215 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: you know, if you were in the know, I was 216 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: just going to leave it at that. But if you 217 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: balance five Ford f one fifties nose to tail um 218 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: on top of your armbone, theoretically it should be able 219 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: to hold that up. You would wish that you were dead, 220 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 1: but your armbone would just be like, oh god, this 221 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna break, and it might not break. But 222 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: again the point is this. That is the amount of 223 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: actual weight, but weight can actually be combined in other 224 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: ways and delivered an other way. So if you delivered 225 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: far far less than that with um a lot more 226 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: velocity um, your your bone would just snap right in two. 227 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of variables they're including not just 228 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: how that amount of weight is delivered in what what 229 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: kind of force, but also your age, your health. There's 230 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, but like you said, generally speaking, 231 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: your bone, a cubic inch of bone could bear nine 232 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: pounds or about eight thousand, six hundreds of weight. Yeah. 233 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: And although this is gets away from board breaking, it 234 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: was in the article sent and I thought it was 235 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: super interesting. When it comes to getting in a fistfight 236 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: or boxing. When someone gets knocked out by a punch, 237 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily because they get hit so hard in 238 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: the head. It's that there if you hit someone in 239 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: the cheek, you know, right there, and the and the 240 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: kisser and the jaw, it's the head spin that does it. 241 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: So if your head spins around, uh from zero to 242 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: forty three RPMs in a second, your your head stresses 243 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: out and the brain shuts down as a protection. Yeah, 244 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: I had no idea of getting knocked out chance if 245 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: it's up to RPMs. So that's why boxers built up 246 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: their neck muscles so their head doesn't snap to the 247 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: side as much. Yeah, totally had no idea about any 248 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: of that, or getting hit in the stomach, Like when 249 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: the wind is knocked out of you, that's a spasm 250 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: of your diaphragm right right. And the reason why you 251 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: can make somebody's head spin like that, or make or 252 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: cause somebody's diaphragm to spas them is because you're concentrating 253 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of force in a fairly small area. 254 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: Like if you look at the front if you make 255 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: a fist and then look at the front of your 256 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: fingers where the fist makes contact with whatever that's that's 257 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: actually a relatively small area that you're putting a tremendous 258 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: amount of mass and velocity behind. And you combine those two, 259 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: you multiply those two, and you have force. And humans 260 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: can can concentrate a pretty pretty significant amount of force. 261 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: This Life Science article found that a professional boxer could 262 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: generate about five thousand Newton's of force, and a Newton, 263 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: by the way, is the amount of force it takes 264 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: to move one kilogram one meter, which makes me want 265 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: to go move a kilogram a meter so bad just 266 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: to be like, I just used a Newton. I just 267 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: exerted a Newton right there? You know? Is that just 268 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: me that you don't want to do that too? So um. 269 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: A boxer can generate about five thousand Newton's of force 270 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: with a punch, which is about half of a ton 271 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: of um of force exerted on the Earth's surface. Okay, 272 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: half a ton of force in your little your little 273 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: fist right there. And because four sequels mass times velocity, 274 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: if you can generate more um velocity and you and 275 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: you can use more mass, you can generate more force. 276 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: And we'll talk more about that later on with the physics. 277 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: But that's just a little teaser. Yeah, And this is 278 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: also the point, and I've pointed this out before, I 279 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: believe where I would like to say that I am 280 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: forty seven years old and I have never punched or 281 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: hit anyone in my life. Nor been punched or hit. 282 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: That's great, man, never been in a fight. I kind 283 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: of feel like I should get in a fight. I 284 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: don't think so. I think you should feel the opposite 285 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: of that. You should be proud of it. Yeah, just 286 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: be like, I've never been in a fight. I'm gonna 287 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: die having never been in a fist fight. You definitely 288 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: don't need to. Don't listen to fight Club. It was 289 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: made up, by the way. All right, should we take 290 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: a break, Yeah, all right, We'll take a break and 291 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: we'll talk more about board board breaking right after this, 292 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: all right, Chuck so um when you actually break aboard, 293 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: we can tell you how to do that. But again 294 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: I want to preface it with like, just don't don't 295 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: go do this, don't listen to us and do this. Like, 296 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: if you want to do this, go check out martial arts, 297 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: go to your nearest O Joe and see what's going down. 298 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: That's right, But just for the sake of sharing information, 299 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: that's what we're doing here. Okay. Yes, So if you 300 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: if you watch somebody break aboard, you're gonna see that 301 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: there's actually like a fairly uniform shape to them. They're 302 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: usually about a foot wide, they're usually kind of squarish, 303 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: and there's something like about three quarters of an inch thick. 304 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: And again, like I said, traditionally, um, the wood is 305 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: supposed to be cedar, but I think these days most people, 306 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: uh say pine. They use pine because it's a soft 307 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: wood and it breaks easier than a hardwood like oak 308 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, And they also suggest to 309 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: not have like a big not right in the center 310 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: of this board or hopefully anywhere on the board, but 311 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: definitely not where you're punching, because the center is where 312 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: you want to be punching. And this is usually either 313 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: held by somebody or you see them set up sometimes 314 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: with on on stands and stuff being held. Yeah, if 315 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: you watch Karate Kid too, when daniels Son breaks through 316 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: those six sheets of ice, I don't remember that at all. 317 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: They have It was like in a bar. He took 318 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: a bet Actually, Mr Miyagi kind of forced him to 319 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: take the bet um because he was being betted against 320 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: by Mr Miyagi's rivals. Nephew, Okay, he's got to see it, 321 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: but he got a good memory of Karate Kid too. 322 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: I just watched it like an hour ago, okay, but yeah, 323 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: they had like a stand that they put these sheets 324 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: of ice in. It was pretty awesome, pretty cool little gizmo. 325 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any reason to make it unless 326 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: you do kind of have a bar where people break 327 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: ice and stuff. But it's uh, I just thought it 328 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: was pretty cool. But for the most part, you see 329 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: somebody just standing there holding it like it's like a 330 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: punching target or something. Yeah, and there's I mean, it 331 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: kind of depends, that's if you're punching straight through with 332 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: your knuckles. You've also seen things stacked like spread between 333 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: two bricks, a bunch of wood stacked and you can 334 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: use a few techniques here at the hammer fist, which 335 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: is like if you were just pounding on a you know, 336 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: on a table with your with your hand like hulk smash, yeah, 337 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: hulk smash or what's known as palm heel. And that's 338 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: when you yeah, with with your palm. Yeah. If I 339 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: saw somebody break a board like that, I would be 340 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: truly impressed that I have not seen. Have you seen 341 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: somebody break a board in real life? No? Not not 342 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: in person? No I haven't either. Uh. And then the 343 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: old knife hand, which is the classic karate chop. The 344 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: reason why you want to hit the center of the 345 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: board is myriad number one. That's where the least amount 346 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: of strength is in the board. It's not around the edges, 347 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: it's more in the center. And depending on how you're hitting, 348 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: let's let's just go with the good old fashioned karate chop. 349 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: What's that one called the knife hand? Yeah, and when 350 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: you can all so do this these these uh with 351 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: kicks you can which to me it just seems terribly scary. 352 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but like I don't want 353 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: anything to happen to my ankle or my heel or 354 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: my achilles heel. Or any my toes. Nothing like that. 355 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: Like the the punching breaking with your hands or fists, 356 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 1: that's that's cool enough, But like your foot, I'd be 357 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: very It would take a tremendous amount of training for 358 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: me to get to that point. All right. So we're 359 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: going with the standard karate chop, right, And when you're 360 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: doing the standardkarate chop, so the board is going to 361 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: be flat relative to the earth, and you are going 362 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: to bring your fist down or your your karate chop 363 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: down going with the grain, you will have a tremendously 364 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: difficult time breaking the board against the grain. You want 365 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: to go bring the line of your hand parallel with 366 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: the grain. Yeah, I didn't fully get that, Okay. So 367 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: if you have a flat board in front of you, 368 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: you're you're on your knees and you're like about to 369 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: chop it, and you hold your hold your fist up 370 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: like that, or hold your karate chop up like this 371 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: right in front of you, and you start to bring 372 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: it down. The grain of the wood should be going 373 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: the same direction as your hand. But what I mean 374 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: that makes sense if your hand is in karate chop 375 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: mode because there's a clear line. But what about when 376 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: it's a fist. I don't know. Maybe it matters less 377 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: because it's a fist. I could see it mattering more 378 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: because there's so much less surface area that's making contact 379 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: with the karate chop than like with the whole fist. 380 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: So I would guess the grain definitely would matter more 381 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: with that, al Right, But regardless supposedly they say going 382 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: with the grain is easier, Yeah, it's just easier in life. 383 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: That's a life note. Go with the grain, go with 384 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: the flow. Actually I don't necessarily I don't necessarily espouse that, agreed. Okay. So, um, 385 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: one of the other things you're gonna learn is um focus. 386 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: And you kind of touched on this earlier, but you 387 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: were kind of talking about how you you want to 388 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: stop You like, if you if you go to hit 389 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: a board or a piece of wood or a piece 390 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: of concrete or something like that, your brain's gonna scream 391 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: stop dummy. Yeah, So how do you get over that 392 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: when you go into training where you're trained to break boards? Well, 393 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: I mean you you focus. You try to focus as 394 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: if the the board that you were breaking as several 395 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: inches behind the actual board. To participitate or encourage that 396 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: follow through. But they also make a very good point 397 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: about breathing. And if you saw Karate Kid, what does 398 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: he say with all everything, remember, breathe then breathe out. Well, 399 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: they actually do that to prepare for the ice breaking. Yeah, 400 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,239 Speaker 1: so it's breathing is very important and then you know 401 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: if you hear that, yeah, I mean that's just not 402 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: for showboating and flair. Uh, the same way as a 403 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: tennis player might grunt when they hit, like Steffi Graph, No, 404 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: she had, she had one of the best. Yea or no, 405 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: who's sell Us? Didn't she have a really good grunt? 406 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: I thought it was Steffi graph I don't remember. I 407 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: definitely remember sell Us had a Yeah. Is that your impression? Yeah? 408 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: That was my Monica sell Us. Okay man. Remember she 409 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: got stabbed on the court. Wasn't that crazy? No, I 410 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: don't remember that at all. Yeah, he had. She had. 411 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: She was attacked and stabbed a tennis match by a 412 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: crazed fan. Yeah, and it really derailed her career, I 413 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: would imagine. So, I mean, like if you if you're 414 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: not safe on like the tennis court doing your thing, 415 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: it takes a lot of concentration to play tennis. You 416 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: don't want to think about what's like coming up behind you, 417 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, while you're hitting a return. Good God, And 418 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: I think most people take up tennis because you have 419 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: a near chance of not being stabbed. Yes, it is 420 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: a pretty stabbed free pursuit. Uh So, anyway, where were 421 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: we were talking about how um breathing in the kia 422 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: That is all to do with the focus, like bringing 423 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: that whole routine together with the breaths and the exclamation 424 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: as you punch supposedly a few inches behind where the 425 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: board is. Yeah, and I actually looked that up where 426 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: he came from or what the point is, and there's 427 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: that's supposedly a kind of an embellishment or a flourish 428 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: or on the actual breathing. You don't actually have to 429 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: make a sound or say a word or say something 430 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: that sounds that sounds like a word that you you're 431 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: actually expelling breath very quickly. And the reason why you're 432 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: doing this because you're meant to be focusing on your 433 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: breath so that when you actually punch or bring your 434 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: hand down or kick or whatever, what your what your 435 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: brain is pretending it's doing is breathing, and your your 436 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: hand or your foot motion is just kind of a byproduct, 437 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: and it distracts you from worrying or thinking about pulling 438 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: your punch, because there's a real problem with pulling your punch. 439 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: If you stop, if you if you pull your punch, 440 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: if you try to ease off on the speed right 441 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: before you hit, you're still gonna hit. But rather than 442 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: driving through the board or the concrete or whatever it 443 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: is you're the force of that is actually going to 444 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: bounce off the board, won't break, and it will reverberate 445 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: through the board and then back up into your hand, 446 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: and it's going to hurt terribly impossibly even break one 447 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: of your bones. So that natural instinct to pull up 448 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: is what ends up causing the injury. Ironically, yes, so 449 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: your brain is trying to make itself safe, but your 450 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: brain hasn't really thought things through. But if you follow through, 451 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: like you said, if you focus on hitting a place 452 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: that's actually on the other side, beyond the board, you're 453 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: you're more likely to keep going through to follow through. 454 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: And another reason why this is a good idea is 455 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: because I think somebody, some physicists figured out that the 456 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: peak of a blow or a strike or something like 457 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: that occurs at about a mark of the arc or 458 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: of the downward motion or of the motion. Right, So 459 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: it's not like when you punch through or something that's 460 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: when you hit. It's actually happening right before possibly you 461 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: hit the board. So if you're if your brain is 462 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: saying don't punch that it's gonna hurt, and you already 463 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: just naturally aren't delivering of the blow right then anyway, 464 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: you're really gonna have your hand bounce off and it's 465 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: going to be a problem. Should we take another break? 466 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: Hey man? Why not? All right, we'll talk a little 467 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: bit more about that physics, uh in a in a 468 00:27:47,359 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: very special astronaut right after this. Alright, Chuck, we're back, 469 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: and I think I speak for all of the world, 470 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: and I say, what do astronauts have to do with this? 471 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: So this was pretty interesting to me. And apparently in 472 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: the seventies a couple of physicists uh dudes that were 473 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: also martial artists I decided to sort of look into 474 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: the physics of board breaking and do that research. In 475 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: what they came up with was speed is the is 476 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: the overriding factor when it comes to board breaking, right, 477 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: Because you mentioned earlier, you know, the more you increase 478 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: that velocity or that force, or the more you increase 479 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: the velocity, the more you're going to increase the force. Right, 480 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: And you can increase your velocity just by doing something 481 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: as simple as pulling your fists back further before you 482 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: bring it down, give you more room, more more of 483 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: a head start, or something like that. Yeah, and this 484 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: is aim. And like it's the same with anything, whether 485 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: you're cutting a chopping a tree, or hitting a baseball. 486 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: You do you hear about bat speed and baseball. You know, 487 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: you want your punch to be as fast as possible, 488 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: not just to catch your opponent off guard, but because 489 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: you generate more force in the end, right, And you 490 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: can also recruit more mass from different parts of your body. 491 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: And it's you can recruit mass more easily with a 492 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: kick than with a punch, which is why you generate 493 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: more Newton's of force with a kick them with a punch, 494 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: because you have more muscle mass that you can draw 495 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: from to direct out through your foot in a kick. Yeah, 496 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 1: and you always to hear about with kicks, punches, golf swings, 497 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: baseball bats. It's like they say, it's in in the hips. Yeah, 498 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: that's what Actually, that's what um Daniel Son said. Really, 499 00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: there's a real lesson here in Hollywood history. Uh So apparently, 500 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: if you are a typical beginner in kata te, you 501 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: can get up to about twenty per second with with 502 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: your hand speed, which uh, in terms of math or maths, 503 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: is enough to break a one inch pine board. Yeah, 504 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: And I looked it up at I saw that something 505 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: about like Newton's to break a pine board. Okay, so 506 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: good and from what I saw, and basically any beginner 507 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: can walk up after about five ten minutes of instruction 508 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: and break through a single pine board typically if they 509 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: do it right right. So, if you're out there saying 510 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: Chuck still hasn't talked about the special astronaut one of 511 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: these physicists in the seventies, his name was Ronald Ron 512 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: McNair and he was also an astronaut, and he was 513 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: also played the saxomaphone, and he was all set to 514 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: record the very first recorded piece of music in space 515 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: in history when he boarded the A Shuttle Challenger and 516 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: as a black belt and saxomaphone player, and sadly we 517 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: all know how that ended. So he was the physicist 518 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: who did this research on board breaking as it turns out. 519 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: Have you have you ever been to Kennedy Space Center, 520 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: Which one's Kennedy, the one on Cape Canaveral. Yeah, yeah, 521 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: I think so they have is they have a museum there, um, 522 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: just fantastic museum. And in part of it they have 523 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: like personal effects of some of the uh of all 524 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: of actually the Challenger and the Columbia astronauts who were lost, 525 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: and one of them is Ronald McNair's like karate uniform. Interesting. Yeah, 526 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: it's pretty it's really amazing to see the way they 527 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: have this kind of memorial set up. It's it's it'll 528 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: bring it tear to your eye. Yeah. I mean if 529 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: I went it was before that even happened, I would 530 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: have been very young. Oh yeah yeah. And I think 531 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: that the memorials even fairly newish. So yeah, yeah, it's 532 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: definitely worth a visits for for just that even but 533 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: the whole the whole museum is really great. Yeah. We 534 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: should do an episode about the space shuttle disaster at 535 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: some point. I think you're right. It would be a good, 536 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: a good somber one because we did one on the 537 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: I S S, so maybe we could do one on 538 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: space shuttles in general. Yeah, all right. Uh so Ron McNair, 539 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: long story short, he was so good he could get 540 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: his karate chop up to forty six ft per second, 541 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: which equates to about twenty eight hundred Newton's of force, 542 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: which is about a quarter ton. Yeah that's a lot. Yeah, 543 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: because they say it takes nineteen hundred tons I'm sorry 544 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: Newton's to break a one and a half inch concrete slab, 545 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: and he he could put forth Newton's right. So there 546 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 1: you have it. It's really just physics. So it's like 547 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: at this point Chuck in in research where I was like, okay, 548 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: wait a minute, it's just physics. Is this just like 549 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: like um circus stuff? Is this the circus arts? Really? Is? 550 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: It's just fake? And did Chuck dupe me somehow weird 551 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: into doing another circus article? So the the the thing 552 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: is is, I know it's not like there are physics involved, 553 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: and you have to know what you're doing, and there's 554 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: definitely a wrong way, and you can injure yourself, especially 555 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: if you pull your punch. The more boards there are, 556 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: the easier it would be to hurt yourself, depending on 557 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: how they're stacked. But it would be wrong to say 558 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: that it is that physics does not very much aid 559 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: in this. It's not a trick. It's not a trick, 560 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: and it is very well thought through. And the more 561 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: boards you add, or the different materials you add, obviously 562 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: the more skill you're demonstrating. But the reason why physics 563 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: plays a part is things like the grain, Like breaking 564 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: along the grain. That means that the break is going 565 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: to occur along the grain. It's gonna be a lot 566 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: easier for that break to propagate. Um things like if 567 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: you look at a board. The reason why you're using 568 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: something like pine rather than a hard would it's not 569 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: because hardwoods are like harder, they're more resilient. The pine 570 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: is going to be more brittle. So when you hit something, 571 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: you're creating a resonance in it. And I think this 572 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: is in the Bridges episode where if you get something 573 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: into its natural resonance and the natural resonance is overwhelmed, 574 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: it will break apart. That's what you're doing when you 575 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: break a border, where you break concrete or something like that, 576 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: you're transferring force from your body into this this inanimate object, 577 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: and you're in doing so, you're creating a resonance in 578 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: it that is hopefully enough to overcome the objects natural 579 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: resonance and break it apart. And it's you know, when 580 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: you say it like that, it seems like a slow process, 581 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: but this happens very quickly. With oak or something like that. 582 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: It's it's much more resilient, it's much more elastic, and 583 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: so it's going to resonate more than break it's compared 584 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: to say like pine. So there's another example of how 585 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: physics um comes in. And then also if you look 586 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: at things like five stacked boards that somebody's punching through, 587 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: they're not five stacked boards one right on top of 588 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: each other. Even the most battle hardened sense a in 589 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: the universe would think two or three times before trying 590 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: that and would probably be like, I'm not going to 591 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: do that today. You'd be a moron to do that 592 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: because most people would not be able to break through that. 593 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: But if you have space between them, that changes everything. Yes, 594 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 1: So is that true? Is it is it the boards 595 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: that are breaking the other boards? Yes? And are you 596 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: really just breaking that first boarder? Is it the first few? No? 597 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: Because if you think about it, if you stop right, 598 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: if like you if you're the place where you're going 599 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: to break through stops like say, right before the third board, 600 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 1: you're you're going to break your hand on that third board. 601 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: So it does take discipline and focus and thought to 602 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: where you're punching beyond that fifth board. Right, Um, but yeah, 603 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: when you break through that first one, you're punching through 604 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: to the next one and punching through the next one. 605 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: So as each board gives way, it's helping break the 606 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,479 Speaker 1: next one. But really it's getting out of the way 607 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: and you're just punching through another board, and then that 608 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: one gets out of the way, and there's another one 609 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: you're punching through. But it's all in just one smooth 610 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: motion as you punch beyond that say, fifth board. But 611 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: if they're all stacked up right next to each other, 612 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: you're not punching through five five boards. You're punching through 613 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: one board five boards thick, and then that does not 614 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: have that same effect because you're trying to punch the 615 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: whole thing all at once and your hands is going 616 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: to turn to mush. So in theory, uh, you would 617 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: only be able to punch through as many boards as 618 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: your arm punch length. Yes, right, Well, so here's the deal. 619 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: Is board breaking just for show? Is that an act? 620 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: Is there any merit to it whatsoever? And the answer 621 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: is sort of back and forth depending on who you 622 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: talk to. I think there are some martial arts purists, Well, 623 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: it depends. There's probably purists on both sides that say 624 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: this is an ancient tradition that we still like to practice. Uh. 625 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: It's good for obviously recruiting people to your dojo if 626 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: you are a master board breaker in your town, But 627 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: then other people say, no, you know it's it is 628 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: only for show. Bruce leeve And said, supposedly boards don't 629 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: hit back, Like what you should be doing is training 630 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: and focusing on things and not sort of like a 631 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: side show trick, even though it's not a trick trick. Uh. 632 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 1: And then it doesn't do anything to further martial arts. 633 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: It's just sort of a thing to get attention. And 634 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: I liked how this article kind of put it. It It 635 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: was saying, like you actually teach kids that they can 636 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: get praised for doing unimportant things like breaking through some boards, 637 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: where really they should be being praised or being trained 638 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: to do stuff that's actually useful, right, Like it it's 639 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: it's definitely not a true gauge of your progress as 640 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 1: a martial artist. No, But like I was reading about 641 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: the ninety six Tokyo Karate Open, I think, and it 642 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: um if you wanted to progress to the next round, 643 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 1: you had to fight, and then you had to break 644 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: some boards and you had to break like X number 645 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: of boards and then you can move on the next round, 646 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: fight break some more boards. So it's not like there's 647 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: it's just totally useless in the martial arts world. And 648 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 1: the whole reason it's there is strictly to attract new students. 649 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: Although I think it really works for that, like it 650 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,479 Speaker 1: does have practical use, But outside of the martial arts 651 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: like competition world, does it I think is the larger point. Yeah, 652 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: I'd like to hear from martial artists and get a 653 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 1: true insider's take on what they think about it. Yeah, 654 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: same here. Would you ever take any martial arts? I 655 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: took taekwondo as a youngster, and I was like, wait 656 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: a minute, wait a minute, We're just like kicking the air. 657 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: I want to like, what are we doing here? And 658 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: it became very clear that there was a long path 659 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: I had to me to wherever I wanted to be, 660 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm not doing this. I'm gonna 661 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 1: go home and eat some twigs. Peanut butter or caramel 662 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: peanut butter. I eat caramel if it was around, but 663 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: peanut butter is always my favorite. Yeah. Did they still 664 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: make those peanut butter twigs? Yes, they do so good. 665 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: I think that's it. Huh. Yeah. I looked up some 666 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: records just quickly here, like world records, to see what 667 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: was out there, and don't bother unless you have hours 668 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: to sort through this, because there are literally dozens and 669 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: dozens and dozens of variations of world records. Apparently you 670 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,720 Speaker 1: can just make anything up, and if you're the first 671 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: person to do that, like there are records like a 672 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: couple that punched through this much glass and this much time, 673 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: or a man who who punched through a lot of 674 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: them are time based, like this many pieces of glass 675 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: while humming the theme from mash uh like, it seems 676 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: like can just make anything up and and get I mean, 677 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: there's glass breaking ice boards, there's kicks, there's head stuff, 678 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: hand stuff, concrete. It's just all over the place. And 679 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: I finally gave up when I saw a record for 680 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: a guy breaking boards in free fall. So he skydived 681 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: and was surrounded by skydivers that would float up to 682 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: him and hold boards in front of his face. It 683 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: was very intimidating, looking like just shoving these boards in 684 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: his face while he's floating, and he would gather himself 685 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: up enough to punch through the board. And that's when 686 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm out. I think I'm done. That 687 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: guy's the world record holder for awesome. That's pretty great. 688 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: I don't even think about that. I want to combine 689 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: my passion for skydiving with my passion for karate. Yeah, 690 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,959 Speaker 1: it was pretty dumb. Last thing I had was there's 691 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: a legend that if you are in the UFC, the 692 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: Ultimate Fighting Championship or whatever, and there's a rule against 693 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: downward elbow strikes because it's it's thought that they're possibly lethal, 694 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: so they're an illegal move and they The legend is 695 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: is that the reason is because the UFC commissioner was 696 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: at a board breaking competition and saw somebody break a 697 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 1: bunch of like boards or concrete with their elbow and 698 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: did not realize that there's a lot of physics involved 699 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: and went back and like immediately made this rule no 700 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: downward elbow strikes. It's obviously you can kill a man 701 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: like that because I saw some dude breaks and boards 702 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: with his elbow. Isn't that interesting? Yeah, I don't watch 703 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: uh you need that stuff, So I don't know. It's 704 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: just so brutal. Man. Yeah, I can watch boxing all 705 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: day long, but ultimate fighting it's, oh my god, it's brutal. 706 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: I used to love boxing growing up. It's it holds up. Yeah. 707 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: Just I think when when the heavyweight division sort of 708 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: got less interesting post Tyson. Oh yeah, yeah, I just 709 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: I was into a girl going up with like the 710 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: legends like Marvin Hagler and Roberto Duran and Sugarade Leonard 711 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: and Tyson and Spinks and Homes. It just ali. Of 712 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,760 Speaker 1: course it was. It was one of the premier sports. 713 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: And it's just I don't know. When you when I'm 714 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: trying to figure out which clich Ko brother is who, 715 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of done. So yeah, I don't know 716 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: anything about it. I guess post Tyson, now that I 717 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: think about, I don't know anybody's name post Tyson. To 718 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 1: tell you the truth, as far as heavyweights are concerned, 719 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of clitch cos that's all. Okay, Well 720 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: that explain to it. Clitch cos Well, if you want 721 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: to know more about board breaking, go get into martial arts. 722 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: I strongly recommend it, even though I didn't. Don't make 723 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: the same mistake I did. Ah, And since I said 724 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: that it's time for listener mail, alright, I'm gonna call 725 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: this pin setters. We heard from quite a few people 726 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: who were pin setters or had relatives that were pin setters, 727 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: and this one I thought was very sweet. Just enjoy 728 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: jobs of bygone eras guys. And I remembered that my 729 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: dad once worked as a pin setter and his ute. 730 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: I called him and talked to him about his experiences 731 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: after your show, and here a few highlights the nine 732 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: sixty and he was twelve. This is Cleveland, Ohio, and 733 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: he remembered that this particular bowling alley was the last one, 734 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: I guess in Cleveland to convert to automatic setting. He 735 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: was paid two cents of frame or twenty cents per game. Uh. 736 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 1: Bowlers would slide nickels, dimes, and quarters down the lane 737 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: as a tip. Oh that's pretty cool. Yeah, And you 738 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: had to be quick to snatch up your tip because 739 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: sometimes they would try to snipe you with a ball. 740 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: I guess awful setters were responsible for three to four 741 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: lanes at a time, and he worked on a slightly 742 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: elevated catwalk. My dad was hit several times with pins 743 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: and he said it was just part of the job, 744 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: and the bowlers made him mad. He would offset one 745 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: of the rear pins to decrease the chance of a 746 00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: strike for him sticking into the man. This is from 747 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: Ray Hovorka, and he says, thanks a lot. My dad 748 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: is seventy now and always lights up when he gets 749 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: a chance to regale in his youth. So thank you 750 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: Ray Hovorka and Mr Hovorka for your work as a 751 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: pin setter. Captain Doc Havorca Esquire. That's raised dad's name. Now, Okay, 752 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: So if you want to tell us some cool story 753 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 1: your dad told you, we love those. You can get 754 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: in touch with us through social media. Just go to 755 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: our website Stuff you Should Know dot com uh and 756 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 1: you can also send us an email. 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