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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 2: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about the news story that broke last

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Speaker 2: night about Charlie Kirk's murder investigation. Then we're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about Tiger Wood's latest DUI. For the rest of

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Speaker 2: the episode, we're going to talk about a lot of

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Speaker 2: stories this week involving children either getting killed or hurt.

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Speaker 2: And it's not going to be a very fun episode,

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Speaker 2: but it's very necessary to talk about some of these things.

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Speaker 2: So if you have kids, want kids, wear a kid

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Speaker 2: at some point, I think that you'll find the stories interesting.

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Speaker 2: So all that more on today's episode, Plus we'll get

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Speaker 2: into your emails, comments and questions. All right, let's get

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Speaker 2: started just real quick. I feel like we've talked about

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Speaker 2: this maybe at least when it happened. But even though

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Speaker 2: we haven't talked about the whole Charlie Kirk thing, there's

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Speaker 2: been plenty of chatter about it online. So let's talk

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Speaker 2: about this latest thing that came out last night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we definitely covered this when it first broke,

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Speaker 1: and we covered it in the grocer room as well.

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Speaker 1: But Tyler Robinson, who's been accused of killing Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 1: his defense lawyers are now saying that the bullet that

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Speaker 1: they found at autopsy doesn't match the rifle that they

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Speaker 1: believed he used to kill him. So this is obviously

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Speaker 1: a huge problem if true.

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Speaker 2: So the thing is is that it could very well

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Speaker 2: be true. I definitely, I mean, I think I've said

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Speaker 2: the way that you would normally text message someone, especially

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Speaker 2: young people that don't even speak anywhere near English.

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, and we get we're into that within our

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Speaker 1: crossover with Gandhi on Sauce on the Side, So if

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Speaker 1: people want to go back and find that episode from October,

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Speaker 1: we talk a lot about more of the conspiracies.

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Speaker 3: Going on behind this case.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, and I'm like, I'm definitely always into conspiracies

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Speaker 2: because so many times they end up being true. Actually,

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Speaker 2: but for this one, like, I don't, I don't really know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not that invested in it. But as far as

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Speaker 2: kind of this is just my personal opinion, the defense

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Speaker 2: it's not really telling the truth, and it's very like

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Speaker 2: click baity, and it's doing exactly what they wanted to do,

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Speaker 2: which is spread around the internet and and have people

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Speaker 2: talking about it. Because even the way that you just

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Speaker 2: said it like it's it's just it's kind of true,

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Speaker 2: but it's like a stretch. So let me let me explain.

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Speaker 2: So when you when you shoot a firearm, sometimes not

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Speaker 2: all the time, you could match up where the bullet

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Speaker 2: came from, so it puts certain markings on the bullet,

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Speaker 2: and there are certain experts that could look at this

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Speaker 2: under a microscope and they are able to see that

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Speaker 2: the particular markings on the bullet were fired from a

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Speaker 2: particular gun. And there's a lot of controversy over that

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Speaker 2: science in general as well. But like let's just say

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Speaker 2: sometimes that that's possible. But in other times, especially when

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Speaker 2: you're using these soft point projectiles like was used from

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Speaker 2: this particular weapon, they're made to go into the body

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Speaker 2: and expand on contact, so they're supposed to expand and

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Speaker 2: basically destroyed and in pieces by the time the pieces

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Speaker 1: Can I point out some very one very important detail

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Speaker 1: is he is the same attorney that Corey Richins just

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Speaker 1: surprised that they're trying to do that. They were trying

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Speaker 1: all he really had done was weed gummies and then

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Speaker 1: with that said, I mean, are they really providing him

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Speaker 2: I told you I'm willing to listen about it because

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Speaker 2: I just don't trust anything at this point. But just

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Speaker 2: after I explain that to you, do you think that?

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Speaker 2: Do you understand what I'm trying to say?

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Speaker 1: No, I understand what you're trying to say, and I

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Speaker 1: understand just like in the Corey rich And trial, they're

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Speaker 1: trying to throw anything out there that'll stick and put

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Speaker 1: of the Corey Richan trial for example. Right, So when

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Speaker 1: from the Diddy trial and our good friend Lauren Conlin,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean in this case, there's it just

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Speaker 2: from the general population on social media. You there, You know,

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Speaker 2: when there's certain people that die, a lot of people

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Speaker 2: a good example. Like there's definitely people that are called

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Speaker 2: pro Burgers, which is the dumbest name by the way.

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Speaker 1: Oh there's one that lingers in our you tube common

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Speaker 1: well hi, Hi, anyway, So pro Burgers are people who

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Speaker 2: But like the vast majority, I would say, if I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is just my own estimate, like ninety nine point

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Speaker 2: nine percent of people think that that guy is guilty. Right,

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Speaker 2: this particular case with Charlie Kirk you have, there's almost

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Speaker 2: like I swear it was probably like the day after

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Speaker 2: And then there's all these other things coming up that

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Speaker 2: really think that there's just like way more than what

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Speaker 2: And it turns out that that's probably true with JFK,

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Speaker 2: There was like way more to the story than that,

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Speaker 2: so you never know. But another thing to just to

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Speaker 2: news story's coming out, and like I'm not dealing with

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Speaker 2: another thing with this case, like I've had a long run.

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Speaker 2: I'm retiring goodbye. You know.

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Speaker 1: Isn't also normal that the ATF and FBI are now

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Speaker 2: Well I'm not exactly. I guess if it was being

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Speaker 2: why they pulled them in. And you know, we've talked

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Speaker 2: at any time. And I mean that it's he is

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Speaker 2: And like I don't even know, like because you're saying,

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Speaker 1: Just well, you know, I was listening to The Nerve

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Speaker 1: this morning where Mareen was covering the search and recovery

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Speaker 1: for JFK. Junior and Carolyn and Larens set and a

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Speaker 1: these people who were technically civilians Like, yes, he's the

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Speaker 1: son of a former American president. But they are technically civilians,

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Speaker 1: and they had navy divers looking for them, like it

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Speaker 2: That might that might be protocol, though I haven't written

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Speaker 2: be so I really will do a deep dive into it.

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Speaker 2: But that could just be normal protocol for the waters

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Speaker 2: that the bodies were in. They wouldn't just leave people there.

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Speaker 2: They're going to have divers go in there. Like remember

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Speaker 2: and looked for their bodies too, Like you're not just

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Speaker 2: for example, something like that happened on the Walt Whitman Bridge, right,

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Speaker 2: that might be people that are associated with like the

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Speaker 2: So the first documentation of we have of him take

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Speaker 2: I just think he's kind of a terrible person. He

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying this to defend him in the slightest,

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Speaker 3: His dad.

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Speaker 1: I don't think his dad was ever labeled an attic

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Speaker 1: golfing while his poor mother's at home, like not knowing

434
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Speaker 1: what's going on.

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Speaker 3: He had a terrible upbringing everything.

436
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Speaker 1: It totally doesn't justify his actions, but I think when

437
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Speaker 1: you see those things from a very young age, they

438
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Speaker 1: become normalized, which probably in turn led to his affairs,

439
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: led to his Like I don't even think he's been

440
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Speaker 1: drunk per se in any of these incidents, but he's

441
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Speaker 1: definitely been on something.

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Speaker 2: And that's one of the unfortunate things about the whole

443
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Speaker 2: pain pill industry is that when you have a fracture

444
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Speaker 2: of that type, it is extremely painful and having to

445
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Speaker 2: have this multiple like surgeries and stuff that any person

446
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Speaker 2: would start taking pain medications.

447
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Speaker 1: Just had surgery for his back and ruptured achilles in October,

448
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Speaker 1: so not very long.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So just like and unfortunately, people become addicted to

450
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Speaker 2: them a lot, like it becomes a problem and it

451
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Speaker 2: ruins the rest of their life. And that's why whenever

452
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Speaker 2: anybody has to get surgery, I'm always like, do not

453
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Speaker 2: take those things unless you absolutely have to, and and

454
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Speaker 2: take them for like the first day or two to

455
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Speaker 2: get over the hump, and that's it, because it could

456
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Speaker 2: really ruin your life. I've seen it happen to people,

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Speaker 2: so I mean, listen, though he had a dy before

458
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Speaker 2: the pandemic in twenty seventeen that he was on pills

459
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Speaker 2: for too, so he has as far as I'm concerned,

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Speaker 2: he has a problem. And the thing is is that

461
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Speaker 2: let's talk about every other celebrity that I've been writing

462
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Speaker 2: about in the book recently. Just like, no doctor is

463
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Speaker 2: going to sit there, no family, everybody around him is

464
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Speaker 2: making money off of him. It it's just gross, really

465
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Speaker 2: because it's like speaking of like how he was brought

466
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Speaker 2: up and stuff. It's like you see this individual that's

467
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Speaker 2: been used, like he's being used his entire life to

468
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Speaker 2: just like be this person his dad, like he was

469
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Speaker 2: robbed of a childhood like all that stuff. I get it,

470
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Speaker 2: but like nobody around him is doing the best thing

471
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Speaker 2: and and and getting him the help that he needs.

472
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Speaker 2: And he clearly is just like I mean, like we're

473
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Speaker 2: talking about this right now and saying, oh whatever, but

474
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Speaker 2: like he really could have just killed somebody the other day.

475
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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, And then it's like he's stating like some

476
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Speaker 2: Trump person, right, I don't know if it's like his need.

477
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Speaker 2: I don't even know who's Vanessa Trump?

478
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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 3: I had no idea.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well it's somebody that's related to that.

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Speaker 3: That was his daughter.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it does, I don't know. So

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Speaker 2: so like I heard yesterday that the I guess the

484
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Speaker 2: Secret Service or whoever is like their security has been

485
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Speaker 2: has been no not to let his one grandchild in

486
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Speaker 2: the car with him, And I'm just like you guys

487
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: are all like this is all out in the open,

488
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Speaker 2: like yeah, you could date her, but like you can't

489
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Speaker 2: put her kid in the car because like he's not

490
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Speaker 2: a drive with the kid in the car, but like,

491
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Speaker 2: but he's just allowed to drive without the kid in

492
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Speaker 2: the car. So as long as your kid's safe, like

493
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Speaker 2: all the other kids on the road with their parents

494
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: just like going to the hockey game or going wherever,

495
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Speaker 2: and and like they're at risk to get killed by

496
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Speaker 2: Tiger Woods because he's Tiger Woods. Like no, seriously, And

497
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Speaker 2: I saw that people in the golf world are calling

498
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Speaker 2: for him to have a suspension because they point out

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Speaker 2: that all the golfers that are on like the PGA,

500
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Speaker 2: are going to the Masters or something, have to sign

501
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Speaker 2: a morality clause when they're signing up for these big,

502
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Speaker 2: high profile tours. And they're like, well, why just because

503
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: he's like the greatest golfer of all time, does he

504
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: just get a pass when he's acting like this and

505
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Speaker 2: it's not even like the first time or a slip up,

506
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Speaker 2: like he's literally been in at least two can firm

507
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Speaker 2: DUI car accident. You could probably consider the two thousand

508
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: and nine to one a d UI incident too, if

509
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: he was under the influence of ambient And we don't

510
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: know about the one in twenty twenty one, because we

511
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: don't know if they ever tested them. Well, Andy said

512
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Speaker 2: he doesn't want to hire a private driver for privacy reasons,

513
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: and like, well, yeah, because because someone outside the circle

514
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: is going to be like bros. A drug addict. Like yes,

515
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Speaker 2: that's exactly why.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I don't think he should get aways.

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Speaker 2: Funny because last night we were talking about this with

518
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Speaker 2: who were we talking about this with yesterday? No, just

519
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: like we were we were talking about oh with Justin Timberlake.

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00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: I was just like, why wouldn't you just hire a

521
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: private driver? Like it doesn't make any sense if you

522
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: have all that money, just whatever. And Gabe was saying

523
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Speaker 2: last night, you know, I think if I had all

524
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 2: that money, I would I would get like an M

525
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: three bmworm whatever they're called. And he's like, and I

526
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: would drive everywhere. And I'm like yeah, and you would

527
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: be speeding everywhere in that thing and get hurt like that.

528
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Speaker 2: That's the thing. Like he's like, you could never get

529
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: me to hire a driver. I would I'd want to

530
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 2: kill them. And it's true. Like when we get an

531
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Speaker 2: uber and stuff, it's just like he's in the back

532
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: like ready to strying on the person.

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Speaker 1: Like, see, you're somebody that likes being driven around, Like

534
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: you make your husband and you make me drive you around, right,

535
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: so like you like it. I think for a lot

536
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: of celebrities, I get it because they are never alone,

537
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: they have no privacy, and it's literally the only time

538
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Speaker 1: of day they can be by themselves. And that's probably

539
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Speaker 1: why a lot of them don't do it, because they're like,

540
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Speaker 1: I have no normalcy anymore, and this is the one

541
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Speaker 1: thing I can do and that listen, Like, that's fine,

542
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Speaker 1: but high and drunk is not fine.

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Speaker 3: Just no, definitely enough. This pisode is brought to you

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Speaker 3: by the Gross Room.

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Speaker 2: Guys, we did a really disturbing high profile death dis

546
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Speaker 2: section this week because one of our grocery members actually

547
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Speaker 2: recommended it. We had a couple posts and a couple

548
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Speaker 2: news stories this week about circumcisions gone wrong, and this

549
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: brought up this particular case with one of our members,

550
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Speaker 2: so we did a deep dive on it yesterday and

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Speaker 2: it was really really disturbing about a baby named Baby Bruce,

552
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Speaker 2: that's what the case is called.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this baby had a bad circumcision and his

554
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Speaker 1: parents were eventually linked to the psychologists, and it was

555
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Speaker 1: in the sixties, and the psychologists eventually convinced them to

556
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Speaker 1: raise baby Bruce as a girl, so they started doing that,

557
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Speaker 1: and we just kind of get into how that affected

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Speaker 1: the family long term, other really messed up things the

559
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: psychologist was doing behind the scenes, and you go into

560
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Speaker 1: all the surgeries and everything this kid had over his life,

561
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Speaker 1: and it's just really crazy to read about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 2: It is because it talks a lot about because there

564
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Speaker 2: are other circumstances besides having an accidental penis amputation because

565
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Speaker 2: of a botched circumcision. I mean, we have cases in

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Speaker 2: the gross room of like a kid just falling or

567
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Speaker 2: dropping the wrong thing when they're really little and having

568
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Speaker 2: a penis amputation. But also there could be genital defects

569
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Speaker 2: when when a baby's born intersex or something, and just

570
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Speaker 2: talk a little bit about how they used to treat

571
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Speaker 2: that back in the day. Obviously that didn't work out

572
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Speaker 2: to just say, oh, we're just going to turn you

573
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Speaker 2: into the opposite sex and then the other way of course,

574
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Speaker 2: now how we do it, and so some more modern

575
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Speaker 2: day surgery is how they would approach that. So it's

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Speaker 2: it's a really good article.

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Speaker 1: Head over to the grocerroom dot com now to sign up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So now we're going to talk about and the

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Speaker 2: reason that I lumped these together this week is because

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Speaker 2: there were there were at least five stories of little

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Speaker 2: kids getting hurt or killed this week. So I was

582
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Speaker 2: just like, let's just lump them together and talk.

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Speaker 3: About to freak accident.

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Speaker 2: I'll do to freak accident you, all right?

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Speaker 1: So first, in early March, a four year old girl

586
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Speaker 1: drowned in the pool of an airbnb her family was

587
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Speaker 1: renting in Miami, and now the family is planning to

588
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Speaker 1: sue the homeowners for lack of safety. So according to

589
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: this person's lawyers, they're saying in Miami Dade County in Florida,

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Speaker 1: there's mandatory safety measures that are required for ordinance of

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Speaker 1: pools at short term rentals, so that would include an Airbnb. Now,

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Speaker 1: I guess my first question is does when you because

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Speaker 1: I've never done this, but if you sign up to

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Speaker 1: have an airbnb, what does that What does that look like?

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Speaker 1: Is there like legal documents that you have to sign.

596
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: Is there a test that you have to do or

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Speaker 1: something to prove the local ordinances? What are required when

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Speaker 1: you're offering something like a swimming pool. Yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: because they're saying that they're in particular, Miami Dade requires

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Speaker 1: at least one safety feature such as a pool safety barrier,

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Speaker 1: pool safety cover, a pool alarm, or a door latch

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Speaker 1: or alarm, and this family is saying they didn't have

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Speaker 1: any of that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So so this might even go further to not

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Speaker 2: just to the person that read to the house, but

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Speaker 2: to Airbnb to say how are they because like I guess,

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Speaker 2: the way I'm looking at it is, I don't have

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Speaker 2: Airbnb's but I use Airbnb quite often. I've with children

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Speaker 2: and you you go there. I mean, this is kind

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Speaker 2: of where I go off of this story and kind

611
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Speaker 2: of disagree with it a little bit. I go there

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Speaker 2: thinking that it's relatively going to be safe. So for example,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, they're not going to breathe in carbon

614
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Speaker 2: monoxide or something like that, Like it's going to be

615
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: safe to sleep there and stuff. But certainly if I

616
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: had a four year old and there was a pool

617
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: in the backyard, like that's one hundred percent my problem.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna ask you that because you have

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Speaker 1: a pool, for example, and isn't the only rule for

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Speaker 1: where you live having a pool that you have to

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Speaker 1: have a fence with a gate that locks, so technically

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Speaker 1: if something but that's differide a house but that goes

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Speaker 1: out through your back door and the drowning occurs, like

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Speaker 1: you have the safety measure in place.

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Speaker 2: But that's not what's listed here, like they're saying, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the same in New Jersey,

627
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Speaker 2: but like I don't have what's on this list here,

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Speaker 2: So if I was finding I'm saying, like, if this

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Speaker 2: were to happen here, that would be the case maybe

630
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Speaker 2: for you, But we don't know, because that's for I

631
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Speaker 2: own the house, it's not for renting it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, That's what I'm saying, Like if if

634
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Speaker 2: you go buy Florida's rental for short term, which like

635
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Speaker 2: that that's the thing I don't even know. If I

636
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Speaker 2: was going to put my house on Airbnb, I wouldn't

637
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Speaker 2: even know that I had to consult laws about short

638
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: term rentals, Like I wouldn't even know that. So I'm

639
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Speaker 2: assuming that Airbnb offers that information to people when they

640
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Speaker 2: list their house. But as of right now now, my

641
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: pool is safe for ownership. In this town and this

642
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Speaker 2: state that I live in, But I don't have a

643
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Speaker 2: I don't know what the safety barrier means, but I

644
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Speaker 2: don't think that defence would be considered that I don't

645
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Speaker 2: have a pool safety cover. I don't have an alarm.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a latch or anything like. I mean,

647
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Speaker 2: I have a lock on my back door, But I mean,

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Speaker 2: I just don't understand and listen, like I understand, if

649
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Speaker 2: you go on vacation, the last thing that you want

650
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: to happen is something like that happening to one of

651
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: your children. It has to be the worst feeling ever,

652
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: especially a preventable death. But I just don't I don't

653
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: see how that's not your problem when you go on vacation.

654
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 2: You shouldn't just assume like that's your problem when you

655
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: go to anyone's house, when you come here with baby Waylan,

656
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 2: like that's your problem, that's our problem a lot, whoever's

657
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: in charge of watching him. It's not like.

658
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: Obviously, but like if they're filing this lawsuit they had,

659
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: that's the only thing they're going to be able to

660
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: get them on is that they were in violation of

661
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: the ordinance or some type of law because Otherwise, you

662
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: can't just sue somebody because your kid got out in

663
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: the middle of the night. I mean, it's it's not

664
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: dismissing the tragedy that occurred, but like, you can't just

665
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: sue somebody because you were staying at their house and

666
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: your kid got out in the middle of the night.

667
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: And that's what happened because I stayed.

668
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: I stayed there in an airbnb' about two years ago.

669
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I've stayed at multiple ones with pools, but

670
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: I stayed at one a couple of years ago that

671
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 2: had a creak break behind the house that a little

672
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: child could easily drown in as well if they got out.

673
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: And and like when you go to airbnb's, they don't

674
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: have alarms on the doors usually, so when the door,

675
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: if the door were to open in the middle of

676
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: the night, you would know it, right, you wouldn't know

677
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: it if you were sleeping as a parent. So I

678
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, they're going to get they are

679
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: going to get them on this loophole of the law,

680
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: but I still don't I really I don't think it's

681
00:35:58,840 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: their fault.

682
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but at the same yes, but at the

683
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: same time, if that's the ordinance to renting out the

684
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: homeowner needs to accommodate that as well, because like they

685
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: are technically in violation of that, so yeah, on a technicality,

686
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: that are responsible for it if they were not doing

687
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: what they were supposed to be doing.

688
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just try to think about this set

689
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: up at my house and stuff I don't I really

690
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: am not familiar with a pool alarm. I know that

691
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: we talked about it with remember that one case of

692
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 2: that influencer that that her son died. Yeah, I'm just

693
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: not familiar with what it is exactly like if someone

694
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: falls into the pool that it detects someone falls that

695
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 2: someone fell into the pool. Perhaps I'm not exactly sure

696
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: how it works or if any of these things are

697
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: super easy to put because if you're renting the house

698
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: to say that it has a pool, like how do

699
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 2: you put a safety cover over it if it's being

700
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: rented for that very reason? Just like I just have questions.

701
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: But if that's the law, they have to abide by it,

702
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 1: so it doesn't matter under difficult or not. Like, if

703
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: that is the law as far as renting it out,

704
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: they have to be in compliance or they're responsible for

705
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: a situation.

706
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 2: The thing is is that the thing that's listed as

707
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: a safety barrier might very well be just defense and

708
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: they might have one. You know.

709
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: Well, this family's saying they didn't have anything, so we'll

710
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 1: have to keep tabs on it and see what happened,

711
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: all right. Next, this family brought their four year old

712
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: daughter to the hospital with flu leg symptoms, a burning

713
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: sensation in her throat, and difficulty breathing, and it turns

714
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: out that she swallowed a button battery. They had no idea,

715
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: and it seems like this family didn't even think they

716
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: had anything in their house that had a button battery

717
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: in it, so like, where did it come from?

718
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: I guess that's what's disturbing about this case to the

719
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: physicians taking care of this child, because usually you bring

720
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: in a child and say, oh my god, my kids

721
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: swallowed this thing and check. And that's not why the

722
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: parents brought the kid in. They brought the kid in

723
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: because the kid was sick, and they did an x

724
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: ray and probably I would say the reason that they

725
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 2: even did the x ray was because they probably were

726
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 2: trying to see if the child had pneumonia. And when

727
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: they did the x ray, they were like, oh shit,

728
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: this is really bad. So the kid ingested this battery

729
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 2: unknowingly and it essentially ate through her esophagus and went

730
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: into her airway. It because that's what it does. It

731
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: literally eats through the tissue, It puts off chemicals, mixes

732
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: with the chemicals inside of the body, and it just

733
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: erodes right through. It puts a hole through. So she

734
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 2: ended up getting like a back, probably a bacterial or

735
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: a viral infection through that communication just because God like

736
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: anything inside of her body that she put into her

737
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: mouth was now open to that because of this hole

738
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: that was created. So this this is unusual actually because

739
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: usually a kid will swallow it and it goes down

740
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: into their stomach and then you could see that happening

741
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: in the stomach or the gi track that the battery

742
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: then mixed with the stomach acid is eating through the

743
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: bell and causing a perforation, and that's how the child presents.

744
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: So not that this has not never happened before, but

745
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: you know, people don't even realize that. You know, when

746
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: you have like a greeting card that that makes the

747
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 2: noise that makes a song, that's a button batteries in there.

748
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: They're very easy to get a hold of for kids.

749
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: They're in so many toys too, which should not be

750
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: allowed because of how dangerous, and they're in of a

751
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: kid swallowing them.

752
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: They're in like you know, all those lights you buy

753
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: for like out back and stuff, like, they're in those

754
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: little remote controls. They're just in everything like and it's

755
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: it's hard because like this will be the thing, like

756
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 2: when you're having your baby, right, so you're gonna have

757
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 2: your house, like your house is going to be set

758
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: up a certain way because you have a baby living

759
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: in there all the time. But the thing is is

760
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 2: that when you have a kid, you visit other houses.

761
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: They go to friend's house, this and that, and then

762
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: you don't know if their house is proofed as much.

763
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: And that could be something as simple as the parents

764
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: didn't even know they had it. It could happened if

765
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 2: the kid went to the grandma's house like it put

766
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: like one of those little remotes in their mouth and

767
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: it popped out.

768
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: Like I even just saw on Instagram this morning, this

769
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: real that this lady was Like I kept finding these

770
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 1: little like beads in my baby's crib and I couldn't

771
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: figure out for weeks where they were coming from.

772
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: And then she found out.

773
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: That they were like subtly leaking out of a Teddy

774
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: Bear in the kid's crib.

775
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean I don't know because you have

776
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: you read their recommendations, because I my personal thing is

777
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: is with a crib and this is back years ago

778
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: when I had when I had the girls over ten

779
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: years ago. Now it's like crib fitted fitted, tight ass

780
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: sheet and like that's it.

781
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: I don't think the baby was actively sleeping in the crib.

782
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: It might have been like a decoration in place, like

783
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: I think the kid was in a bass in it,

784
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: but then every time she kept going in there, like

785
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: these little beads were in there. Yeah, I mean you

786
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: I just would never have like a toy.

787
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: Just because there's so many things that you're like, oh,

788
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: that's a new because before it was like people would

789
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: put teddy bears like the old school ones from the

790
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: eighties and their eyes were like buttons, right yeah, and

791
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 2: then the kid would get the button off and choke

792
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: on it. So it's like, okay, the doll could just

793
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: be like very light and stuffy. But then it's just

794
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: all these other things that you never think of that

795
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: that could happen, which is why it's just better not

796
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: to do anything.

797
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: And just because the recommendation is just crib crib and cheat.

798
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: This reminding me of just meat and cheese and buns.

799
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 2: Because that's what it is. It's like when you look

800
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: at the safest place place for a kid to sleep

801
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: like that, it's it looks like very uncomfortable.

802
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but what I'm getting at though, is just

803
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: because that's the recommendation doesn't mean that's what happening. If

804
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: you look at any like mommy bloggers or whatever on Instagram,

805
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: or you even go on Pinterest to look up nursery inspiration,

806
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: they got mad shit in there. They got blankets, they

807
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: got pillows, they got stuffies in there with the baby

808
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: in there. So like, even if you're putting the kid

809
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: down for thirty seconds to grab something out of closet,

810
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: it's just unnecessary. And believe me, I have the desire

811
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: to decorate the shit out of that thing. I have

812
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: the desire, but my baby's safety is the thing is too.

813
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: Is that I mean to an extent because like we

814
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: were talking about I don't know if we were talking

815
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: about on our last episode or when we were talking

816
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: about it in the Grosser Rooms episode that the Fisher

817
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 2: Price Rock and Play sleeper was like my favorite thing

818
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: of all time. And the only reason I got that

819
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: was because Andrea told me to get that, and the

820
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: only reason she got is because somebody, because like everybody

821
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: was like, this thing's the shit when you have a kid, right,

822
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden it was like you

823
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 2: heard a couple kids died from it, and it's banned

824
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: and you can't get it anymore. And I was just

825
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: making a joke like, oh, you could go to a

826
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: place like Once upon a Child and like get one,

827
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: probably still because they're like the best things ever. Yeah,

828
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: but then Emma said they're really picky there, they don't

829
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 2: take stuff, so so anyway, Yeah, So I just I've

830
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: been thinking about when you were a baby. Now this

831
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 2: was in nineteen ninety four, but your your crib was

832
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: my crib form when I was a baby that passed

833
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: through all of us, So that was from nineteen seventy

834
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: nine to nineteen ninety four. You had the same crib.

835
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: It better because momm told me that in nineteen seventy

836
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: nine your crib was like eight hundred dollars, which I like,

837
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: I could not believe.

838
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 2: The safety things had to have changed from nineteen seventy

839
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 2: nine to nineteen ninety four. I just didn't even think

840
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 2: about it because like I feel like mom, Mom gave

841
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: it to my cousin Gina, and and then Gina used

842
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: it and then gave it to me. It was like this,

843
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: we passed it all through it out each other, and

844
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: I got you. These bumpers. I don't even know if

845
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: you know what they are, but they're they do it.

846
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 2: They are okay, so they're like stuffed, stuffed like blanket

847
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: things that go around so the kid doesn't bang their

848
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 2: head on the side of the crib. And yours were

849
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: like really puffy and like had ruffles. And then it

850
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: had a comforter that matched for baby size, because that

851
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 2: was like a thing, a comforter for a baby. But like, wow,

852
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: you'll survived, so so it's like a little it might

853
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: just be a little overkillt I always say this, if

854
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 2: you're born and you're hearty, you're going to live through

855
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: anything like just it wasn't meant to be if you

856
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: if if you're gonna like die from suffocating in a

857
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: bumper like that.

858
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 3: Let me go on this standard for a minute.

859
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: So like mom buys this like actual piece of furniture

860
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: crib that lasts fifteen to twenty I'm sure Didi used

861
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: it too, right, so like for twenty years, we're using

862
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: this crib in our family. This weekend we put together

863
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: my baby's crib. Not only were three pieces of it

864
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: damaged upon opening the box. This is a six hundred

865
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: dollars crib. By the way, damage pieces, I have to

866
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: put the whole thing together. I'm sure Mama bought it

867
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: already put together. It scratched the entire time we put

868
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: it together, and just like the quality overall, I'm just like,

869
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: I just cannot.

870
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: Believe it's probably not even would I.

871
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 1: Don't think it is, but I just can't even believe

872
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: how much money this costs. Because I was like, I'm

873
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: gonna get a nicer one, so it like hopefully if

874
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: I go and to have another kid or at last forever,

875
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: it's supposed to turn into like a toilder bed and stuff.

876
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this thing couldn't even have handled ten

877
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: minutes of construction. It scratched all over the place.

878
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: It's insane.

879
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: Well, if you think if you're saying in nineteen seventy nine,

880
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: MoMA paid like eight hundred dollars, which is understandable because

881
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: that's something ridiculous that at least people in our family

882
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 2: used to just do ridiculous things like that, and things

883
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: used to cost more. Like when the VCR came out,

884
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: they were they were like eight hundred dollars, and then

885
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: by the time they were almost obsolete, it was like

886
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 2: you could get one for thirty dollars, right, Like that's

887
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: just how stuff works. But you could still get a

888
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: decent crib piece of furniture from a furniture store that

889
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 2: will cost you thousands of dollars, which would be comparable

890
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: to the nineteen seventy nine price.

891
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: I just can't believe it because also, like this thing

892
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: has a pamphlet of instructions that none of the pieces

893
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: matched the pictures, and it's like, put letter M on

894
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: letter N, and I'm like, well, nothing has stickers on

895
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: it labeling it, and everything looks the same. So like

896
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: it took what three hours for us to put this

897
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: thing together that should have taken twenty minute.

898
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: I just couldn't believe it. All right, let's continue to

899
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: talk about kids swallowing stuff because we have another two stories.

900
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: So this next one is all right.

901
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: So this mother who was a manicurist, was changing her

902
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: one year old's diaper and suddenly he started choking on

903
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: a piece of acrylic nail that he had to pick

904
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: up or it was close by. And then she immediately

905
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: tried to get it out of his mouth, but he

906
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: ended up following it and dying.

907
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what a nightmare. Well he didn't really

908
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: swallow it. It went in his airway, but I don't. Yeah, Like,

909
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: and it's that's the thing, Like, especially if you do

910
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: nails for a living, then a lot of times you

911
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: have them at your house because you're either doing people

912
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: at your house or you're just like painting sample ones

913
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 2: and they're just or doing your own and there's gonna

914
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: be pieces on the floor. Like this is just it.

915
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: It's a kid choking on a lego. It's like the

916
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: same thing. And this is one thing I want to

917
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: talk about with this story and the next story. When

918
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: you have a baby, there esophagus and their airway. They're

919
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: just the opening of their oropharynx or where you know,

920
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: when the food leaves your mouth or when anything it's

921
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: in your mouth leaves and goes, you have a flap

922
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: called the epiglottis that covers the airway. That's it's supposed

923
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: to cover the airway when food is going down, so

924
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: you don't die, right, But how many times have you

925
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 2: had something like that happen that it gets for whatever

926
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: reason and you start coughing excessively because something you know,

927
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: that's when you say something whips air just hits yes way.

928
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: You're just like something went down the wrong pipe. Well,

929
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: that wrong pipe is your airway, right, So the airway

930
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: and a one year old is just so so small,

931
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: and then as you get older, obviously it gets bigger

932
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,479
Speaker 2: and even adults choke too. Well. I had a case

933
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 2: that I posted on Instagram and in the grossroom recently

934
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: of a person that choked on a giant lot of gum. Right,

935
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: so it's only so big and it's not really that big. Well,

936
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: in this particular case, a fake now seems like it's

937
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 2: very small, but it's it's enough to do the job

938
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: in a baby that that's small because their airway is

939
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: like think about the size the diameter of your pinky finger,

940
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, so if you think about a fingernail

941
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 2: going down and just going at the right angle and

942
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: covering it, it could be enough, And unfortunately it could

943
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 2: have went down far enough that the mom wasn't able

944
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 2: to immediately see it and reach it out, and she

945
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: could have even honestly pushed it further in when she

946
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 2: was trying to do that.

947
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 1: This is just like so horrible to think just in

948
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: the split second they could pick up something like that something.

949
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: It's like listen, it's it is and you shouldn't let

950
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: it ruin your life. But especially when you know at

951
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 2: my house, for example, you can't just let a kid

952
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: run around my house because it's not set up for

953
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 2: a baby like that. You have to be a little

954
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: bit more like people are around and looking or have

955
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 2: designated areas, Like my neighbor across the street has one

956
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: of the this like really cool like playpen thing, but

957
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: it's a huge one that she set up, so it's

958
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 2: like a huge corner of the room. It's not just

959
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: like a little playpen. And if they're and in their

960
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: little safe space, you make sure that it's like that

961
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: because that like Whalen can't go up in the girl's

962
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: bedroom ever, like.

963
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: Ever go anywhere your entire house, like where are you

964
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: talking about? Might have would be confined to baby jail.

965
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 3: The whole time.

966
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that is true, but I did raise

967
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: babies in this house, yes, yes.

968
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: But you did not start decorating the way you did

969
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 1: until they were old enough to like, yeah I did.

970
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: They still break stuffy.

971
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: I don't care about.

972
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: Breaking stuff, but yeah, like there's stuff I wouldn't ever

973
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: have stuff on the shelf that's this little because the kid.

974
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 2: That's what kids do. They just pick it up and

975
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: they put stuff in their mouth. So but like the

976
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: girls room, for example, there is shit in their room

977
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 2: that like I don't even know the amount of times

978
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: you could possibly clean it that there would be some

979
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 2: stuff up there, just like little toys, little this little

980
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 2: legos everything.

981
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, and you know, like that really cute bar

982
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: cart like next to my TV in the living room.

983
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, frick.

984
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: He was like, this is gonna have to go downstairs

985
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: because he's gonna break it. And I was, yeah, I

986
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: got six months relaxed, like, yeah, he's not even be moving.

987
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: You don't, Yeah you have more than yeah exactly. So Okay,

988
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: So that was we're talking about a little fake now

989
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: in a baby. But now the next story we're talking

990
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: about a much older kid and a grape.

991
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Eight year old choked to death on a grape.

992
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 3: It's snack time at school.

993
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: I was looking into this because I was gonna ask

994
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: you as a mother, like, I know, you have to

995
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: cut grapes up for kids for a while, but like

996
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: what I saw in my research is that by age

997
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: five or six, they're typically considered okay.

998
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's still like I I had heard

999
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 2: of a case when I was at the medical examiner's

1000
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: office about a guy who was like sitting on the

1001
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: front porch. You know, in the city you have row houses,

1002
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: so people could sit out on the stoop, right, And

1003
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: the guy was sitting out there next to his neighbor

1004
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: with her son that was five, and the mom was like,

1005
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna run in the house real quick and go

1006
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: to the bathroom, and like the I was older, and

1007
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: he gave the kid a grape, and the kid like

1008
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 2: choked on the grape. The kid died from the grape,

1009
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 2: and the guy just felt awful, but obviously he felt

1010
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: awful about it, and like old, like an older man

1011
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: hasn't dealt with a little kid for a while and

1012
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: just didn't even think of it. And so grapes freaked

1013
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: me out. But all like all stuff does. That's like that,

1014
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: the cherry tomatoes, the hot dogs, because even they say,

1015
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: like a hot dog, the diameter of the hot dog

1016
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 2: is bigger than the diameter of their airway. So and

1017
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: it's the same with a grape. So even if you

1018
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: cut a grape, you're really supposed to cut it in

1019
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: half and then cut it in half again, because you're

1020
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: just making a perfect circle size that would fit, that

1021
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: would lodge right into their airway like that. And even

1022
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: as the kids got older and stuff, if I ever

1023
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: did give them grapes, like I'm trying not to be

1024
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 2: like a complete crazy person and embarrass them in front

1025
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 2: of their friends. But still I'm just like you're sitting

1026
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 2: at the lunch table and you're eating grapes and you're laughing,

1027
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 2: and then you suck one in and like an adult

1028
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: could choke on one too, especially like the bigger plump ones.

1029
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 3: Well, that's what I was gonna say.

1030
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: It.

1031
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: Are they factoring how large grapes are getting now? With

1032
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: GMOs and stuff? I feel like this is such an exaggeration,

1033
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: but like sometimes you see what you're like, this is

1034
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: almost as big as a line.

1035
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 3: It's in words.

1036
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 2: There are they are they are getting bigger grapes these

1037
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 2: days are getting bigger. So but yeah, so it is

1038
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: an eight year old. It's like, I'm telling you, it

1039
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 2: could have happened that lunch because if you ever watch

1040
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 2: the kids eat it, I hate it. It gives me anxiety.

1041
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: They put too much food in their mouth at the

1042
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 2: same time, and they're laughing and like hitting each other

1043
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: on the back and this that like, it's just it's

1044
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: just a freak accident. It's all it is. It's like

1045
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: a freak accident. But it just sucks. And especially in

1046
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 2: an eight year old, you would just think they were

1047
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: beyond that point of having to worry about that. But really,

1048
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 2: a grape is probably bigger or the same size as

1049
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: the diameter of an eight year old's airway.

1050
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: Well, the biggest freak accident of this week was that

1051
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: a two year old was crushed to death by a

1052
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: power seat in a Hyundaie. So now all of these,

1053
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: I think it's the the Palisade model is all being recalled.

1054
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I want to put this out there because

1055
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 2: this I saw a video of this and it's terrifying.

1056
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 2: So if the kid is in the back row seats,

1057
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 2: so technically a kid should be in a booster seat

1058
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 2: at that age anyway.

1059
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: But this it was a special situation. I don't know

1060
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: if you saw what happened. The parents were running errands

1061
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: with the kids, and the dad went in the store,

1062
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: and the the mom let the kids out of the

1063
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: car seats to just like play around in the car

1064
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: while they were waiting for the dad to come back.

1065
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 3: And that's when it happened.

1066
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: Okay, because they were They showed a video of it

1067
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 2: with an example from another child, And apparently, like even

1068
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 2: when the car's on or when the car was driving

1069
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: for some reason, that could be deployed. So when the

1070
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: kid pushes the button, you know, when you have a

1071
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 2: third row sometimes there's a button in the back. I

1072
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: feel like it even could be done on my car, honestly,

1073
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 2: in an suv, you hit this button on the back,

1074
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 2: and the back and the seats go down, so you

1075
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: could make the trunk bigger. You've seen that, right, Yeah, Well,

1076
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: apparently like a kid could push it themselves, and like

1077
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: while the car is on or while the car is driving,

1078
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 2: and if you're driving and paying attention to the road

1079
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: and the kid pushes that and they're getting crushed positional asphyxia.

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00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 2: It's called when their body's actually being crushed like that,

1081
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 2: they they won't have any air to even breathe. They

1082
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: get the words out that they're having a problem. And

1083
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: if the mom's driving and really paying attention to the road.

1084
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 2: In this case, it was more likely like the mom

1085
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 2: was playing on her phone while her kids were jumping

1086
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: around the car while the dad was inside of the store.

1087
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 2: Because if you were there and witnessed it happening right

1088
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 2: away and did it, the kid would would be fine.

1089
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: But you don't know that though, And it could have

1090
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: happened so quickly that by the time.

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00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying that she was just she could have

1092
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 2: been distracted, and I know.

1093
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: But even if you were paying attention, there is a

1094
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: possibility it happened so quickly, and it was so extreme

1095
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: that there was no going back, because I mean, if

1096
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: she's in the third row, you're in the driver's seat,

1097
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: it's going to take a minute to get back there,

1098
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: even if you see what's going on right away. But

1099
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: they had cited that other incidents had happened like this

1100
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: where people accidentally hit the button either getting into the

1101
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: car or they were in the seat and it started happening,

1102
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: and even as an adult, if this starts happening, like

1103
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: if you're like really stuck between a seat, the seat

1104
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: in front of you and the seat below you was

1105
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: lifting down, how are you supposed to wiggle out of it,

1106
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: especially if you don't know where the button is to

1107
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: stop it?

1108
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: Well, and this is this is my you know, I

1109
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: have many complaints about my car. I always joke about this,

1110
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 2: but one complaint I have about my car is that

1111
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of buttons in the back that my

1112
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: children can touch, which I'm just like, why does anyone

1113
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: sitting in the back have to have controls of any

1114
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: of the like the sun roof, the air conditioning? What

1115
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: else can they do? The volume of the radio? I'm

1116
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: kind of like, no, that's exacted. They're all three of

1117
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: them are unnecessary. Right, So this particular one because you

1118
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: think like you have a third row, and yes, like

1119
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: adults could use it to all go, but like ninety

1120
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: five percent of the time, it's like parents are getting

1121
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: it so they have an extra row to either pick

1122
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: up kids or have space for their own kids. Right,

1123
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 2: Why why does the kid even is even able to

1124
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 2: hit that button that should only be in the back

1125
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: anyway if you need it right, like your hands shouldn't

1126
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,959
Speaker 2: be able to just touch it and put it down.

1127
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 2: So I don't know. It's just like it And if

1128
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: it was in park position outside of a store like that,

1129
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like because like.

1130
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 3: It's it's unacceptable.

1131
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 1: It can't detect that something's blocking it from fully going down.

1132
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't believe they're not testing something like

1133
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: that before they put thousands of these cars on the market.

1134
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: I feel, well, so is it like, oh, there's not

1135
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: that function or it just malfunctions?

1136
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: No, I think the from what I'm reading, I believe

1137
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: the problem is that it can't In other cars that

1138
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: do this, it can detect if something's blocking the way

1139
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: and it will go up, you know, like yeah, when

1140
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: you're in an elevator. No, when your trunk is automatic

1141
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: and it's coming down and your head's right there, if

1142
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: it detects your head, it's not gonna keep coming down.

1143
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 3: It'll go back up. It doesn't do that.

1144
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: It just keeps pushing down until it thinks it's But.

1145
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: Is it, like it's the same thing with an elevator

1146
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 2: when you stick your arm it won't shut But like, yes,

1147
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: but like one of our friends moms had this happened

1148
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: that the sensor didn't work and the thing just continued

1149
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 2: to crush like that, that was it a malfunction or

1150
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: it's just like they never thought of it.

1151
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: And I don't think they recalled tens of thousands of

1152
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: cars because one malfunctioned or three reported incidents malfunctioned.

1153
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: Like oh well, yeah they would if there was a

1154
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 2: death in depending huge lawsuit maybe, but like that's soft.

1155
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: That's because the reason that I think that is because

1156
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 2: they said that they're gonna try to this is what

1157
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: I got out of the article. They're gonna try to

1158
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: do a software update to fix whatever it is, and

1159
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: then if not, then they're gonna have to manually like

1160
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 2: replace stuff. So it seems like it's like a malfunction

1161
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 2: rather than just like not having it at all.

1162
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: Well, we'll see how that turns out, all right, Onto

1163
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: your questions and emails. If you have a question or

1164
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: story for us, please submit it to stories at Mothernosdeath

1165
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: dot com. Please keep them brief. The ones we're gonna

1166
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: read today are a little longer, but they're worth it,

1167
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: but please keep them brief because it's hard to read

1168
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: long ones. All right, first is from Melissa. I wanted

1169
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: to weigh in on the kids flying alone thing. When

1170
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: I was ten and my sisters were eight, we flew

1171
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: alone from Toronto to Florida as my grandparents lived there

1172
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: in the winter and my dad couldn't come. It was

1173
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: not scary for me at all. We were seated with

1174
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: three other unaccompanied miners and the flight attendants treated us

1175
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: like we were VIPs. This was back in the nineties,

1176
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: so who knows if that's still the case, but it

1177
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: was seamless for us.

1178
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think in general for life when we were like, oh,

1179
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: this was awesome when we were kids, Like, is it

1180
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: awesome anymore? I don't know, but that's that's a cool story.

1181
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: And good for your parents for getting rid of you

1182
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 2: guys for the summer to go to your grandparents' house.

1183
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: I might try this, momm listening, I might try that. Well,

1184
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: they're gonna, I'm getting rid of them to your house

1185
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 2: this summer to be babysitters. Please.

1186
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: Your mother is on a cruise right now, so she's

1187
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: out of touch cruise life. Okay, this is from Grocery, Remember, Amy.

1188
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed your conversation on MKD about Rando's being

1189
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: able to visit patients in the hospital after birth, and

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01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: I have a story for you. After my son, who

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01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: is now fourteen, was born, I was super out of

1192
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: it for five days. I had to have an emergency

1193
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: C section and in the middle of surgery was screaming

1194
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: in pain because I got a spinal headache from the

1195
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: epidoral the worst headache of my life, and five near

1196
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: sleepiness nights. Sleepless nights continued when I was in the hospital.

1197
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: My son was fine and totally awesome right from the start,

1198
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: but I was a mess. About twelve hours after surgery,

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01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: some lady from Welcome Wagon was let into my room.

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01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: Welcome Wagon seems like a good natured organization that drops

1201
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: by to welcome people to a new neighborhood and gives quote,

1202
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: gift baskets to new moms, but they actually are an

1203
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: advertising company that makes money by delivering advertising and samples.

1204
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: This lady woke me up and started chatting with me

1205
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: and forced a bag of diaper samples, formula pamphlets, and

1206
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: a miscellaneous junke into my shaking hands.

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01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 3: Wait pause, that.

1208
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: Is so messed up, like you're trying to recover from me.

1209
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 2: I like yelled at one of them when when I

1210
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: was having lucea because they would come in and be like, oh,

1211
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: you should really wake her up to feed her, and

1212
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck you, she'll wake up when she's hungry,

1213
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: Like let me sleep. Do you know, like how much?

1214
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 2: Especially like right after the baby's out of your body

1215
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 2: and you're like wow, like I actually like, don't have

1216
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: that huge bulk you feel it now? Right? And how

1217
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 2: many weeks are you?

1218
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm thirty two weeks, yes, Saturday, so okay, so wait

1219
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: until you're like forty two weeks seriously, Like it's terrible, right,

1220
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: It's like, think about this the very first night you

1221
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: have your body back in your sleeping and then they're.

1222
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: Just like, damn, you should wake the baby up and

1223
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 2: feed her.

1224
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: Like what I already told Joe before we recorded last week,

1225
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think I can fit behind

1226
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: the desk, butch longer.

1227
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 3: It's getting tight back here, all right, let's continue.

1228
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: She had my name and my son's name, which she

1229
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: only would have known if the hospital told her. I

1230
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: was so out of it, but the bitch and me

1231
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: managed to rise and I told her inappropriate this was

1232
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: agreed she was totally stunned, like she never thought it

1233
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: could be an issue. I also politely chewed out the

1234
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: nurse you strolled in a few minutes later to ask

1235
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: if Welcome Wagon came to see me, before collapsing back

1236
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: into near delirium. When the hospital sent me survey later,

1237
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: I told them that this was totally unwelcome and also

1238
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: a violation of privacy. Yes, I agree with that one

1239
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: hundred and like.

1240
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 2: Really, what are you getting out of it? Like diaper samples? Like?

1241
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 2: Who there?

1242
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 3: Two?

1243
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I I know exactly what she's saying. It's

1244
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 2: like a diaper wrapped in cellophane and then there's like

1245
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 2: a coupon with it. I know exactly. I feel like

1246
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 2: they actually did that with with you too, uh or

1247
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 2: with with my kids too when they were born, the

1248
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 2: little ones. Yeah, I don't know, just that it is

1249
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 2: there is a certain level of like a lot going

1250
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 2: on during that time and the next the last thing

1251
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 2: you need is like some random stranger coming in. I

1252
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 2: agree with you, because you do have to have like

1253
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 2: the lactation nurse and this and that. But you're like,

1254
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 2: all right, they're like going to help me. It should

1255
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: be about you, not about them making money.

1256
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: Well, now that I'm privy to this, I feel I

1257
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: have to inquire. If this happens at the hospital, it's

1258
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: gonna put on your.

1259
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 2: Chart that the welcome wagon is not welcome.

1260
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 3: Okay.

1261
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: So because she filled out the survey complaint, they ended

1262
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: up banning welcome Wagon from the hospital immediately. This is

1263
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: the best thing you could have done for all the

1264
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: mothers that came asking.

1265
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 2: We all thank you, all right, she said.

1266
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: On another topic, I'm off to Vancouver in a few

1267
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: weeks for final assessments to possibly be a living kidney donor.

1268
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 3: Nicole.

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01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: Have you done autopsies on kidney donors and recipients and

1270
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: is there anything notable about their anatomy? No, I have

1271
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:33,479
Speaker 1: done multiple not on donors, but on recipients. So one

1272
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: interesting thing that a lot of people don't know is

1273
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: when you get a kidney transplant, they don't take out

1274
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: your old kidney. So sometimes you have an autopsy on

1275
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: someone that has three kidneys or four kidneys and the

1276
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: other ones are just little and kind of gimpy. You

1277
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: could see why they weren't working and they're kind of atrophied,

1278
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: but they leave them in there, So it is something

1279
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: cool to look at and that's really cool that you're

1280
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: doing that.

1281
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 2: By the way, all.

1282
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: Right from Sarah, I resonated with your situation so much. Maria,

1283
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: we are close in age. I think I'm a ninety

1284
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: five baby. Yes, we are very close. And I've also

1285
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: spent a decade seeking help for endometriosis with little help.

1286
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: They've not even done an ultrasound, let alone a laproscopy.

1287
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: They told me they do not do that. At my gyn.

1288
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: It referred me to a surgeon. I never saw him

1289
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: in person, and I was scheduled for a partial hysterectomy

1290
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: with the possibility I woke up with no ovaries. Here's

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Speaker 1: where it gets a bit complicated. I am a hodgkinsliphoma survivor.

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Speaker 1: The chemotherapy I had in twenty eighteen caused side effects,

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Speaker 1: including lung injury and vascular damage in my extremities.

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Speaker 3: I was short of breath.

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Speaker 1: Due to lung injury and doctor's team wanted to move forward,

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Speaker 1: but my primary said no way, so I rescheduled. I

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Speaker 1: never heard back from their office after contacting them several times.

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Speaker 1: Since I am a mother of two amazing, awesome kiddos

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Speaker 1: who are three and five, I already struggle physically with

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Speaker 1: pots like syndromes due to my chemo injuries, and I

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Speaker 1: live in agony during my period, exactly like you were

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Speaker 1: to discbe. I also struggle with PMDD. My kids were

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Speaker 1: both born via C section. My daughter was breached and

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Speaker 1: my son was born twenty months after her, so I

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Speaker 1: chose a repeat sea section. I believe my endo is

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Speaker 1: now in my C section scar and I have no

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Speaker 1: idea where to turn next. Any info you could share

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Speaker 1: would be awesome. Well, where does it say where she lives?

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: She put in the I redacted some stuff because you

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Speaker 1: were calling out some specific doctors and I didn't want

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Speaker 1: against you.

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Speaker 3: I forget where you live off the top of my head.

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Speaker 1: But if you are in the new in the Tri

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Speaker 1: state area, if you're willing to travel. But I went

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Speaker 1: to doctor Shiman Matthews at Penn Medicine at Princeton, and

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Speaker 1: she is an endemetrious specialist, and I had a wonderful

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Speaker 1: experience with her. You even went to the first consultation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was awesome. And I would suggest if you

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Speaker 2: don't live near us, which is probably likely, just trying

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Speaker 2: to go to any university medical center near you, like

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Speaker 2: the closest cities usually have more specialized people like that.

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Speaker 2: I know one of our friends went to one at

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Speaker 2: Pennsylvania Hospital, which is also part of University of penn

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Speaker 2: But any like major university hospital should have a specialist

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Speaker 2: for that. Another option, which so I also had endometriosis

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Speaker 2: diagnosed by laparoscopi and I had, like not to get

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Speaker 2: into a long story, but I was supposed to get

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Speaker 2: a hysterectomy because I was done having my kids and stuff,

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Speaker 2: and it was like it didn't work out. But I

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Speaker 2: was able to get a procedure called an endometrial ablation,

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Speaker 2: which is they stick they stick a tool up inside

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Speaker 2: your uterus and essentially just singe it like like you

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Speaker 2: would a branding tool or something. Is a hot tool

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Speaker 2: that just burns your your endometrial lining. And that helped

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Speaker 2: me a little bit. It's not curative, it doesn't It

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Speaker 2: could really singe the top layer of the endometrium and myometrium,

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Speaker 2: the top layer of the myometrium. So if you do

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Speaker 2: have endometriosis, which is called adnomiosis inside of your uterus wall,

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Speaker 2: it could help a little bit. As far as the

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Speaker 2: external stuff that's on the sirosa of the uterus where

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Speaker 2: the tubes or the ovaries. It's not really gonna help

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Speaker 2: with that, but if you do have a symptom of

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Speaker 2: really a lot of bleeding during your period, that will

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Speaker 2: help with that a little bit. And I had some

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Speaker 2: friends that had that, And that procedure is very semi

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Speaker 2: non invasive. You go in for a same day thing.

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Speaker 2: They don't have to cut you open. At least there

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Speaker 2: are complications you could get with it, but it's like

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Speaker 2: a same day thing and you're kind of good to

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Speaker 2: go a couple of days later, as opposed to a

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Speaker 2: full surgery like that. But some of my friends I

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Speaker 2: had it done, like never bled again. I did a

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Speaker 2: little bit, but not really anything crazy. And now that

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Speaker 2: I'm like in that weird perimenopausal thing, like I haven't

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Speaker 2: even though I'm not technically in menopause yet, like i

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Speaker 2: haven't even bled for a couple of years now because

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Speaker 2: of that procedure. So it did help with that at least.

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Speaker 2: If you're not able to get like anything else done that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: might want to consider something like that.

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Speaker 1: I guess my advice would be is that I switched

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Speaker 1: from the OBGUI. In practice, I was going to a

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Speaker 1: midwife practice because they tend to listen to you more

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Speaker 1: and actually care instead of just giving you the five

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Speaker 1: minutes the appoint minute.

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Speaker 2: They they probably have more time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they have some more time, but you also don't

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Speaker 1: get blown off. And I feel like that really started when,

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Speaker 1: like you know, I was like, I'm having fertility issues,

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Speaker 1: have been trying to get pregnant a long time and

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Speaker 1: it's not working. And then they suggested a reproductive ender chronologist.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can go to a reproductive

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Speaker 1: endocrinologist unless you're trying to get pregnant. I think there

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Speaker 1: are certain practices that you can, but the one in

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Speaker 1: particular I went to, I think is one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: pregnancy focused, So I don't know if you want to

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Speaker 1: try to go there or that outlet. And then that doctor,

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Speaker 1: my reproductive end of chronologist, took me very seriously from

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Speaker 1: the start, recommended me to the endometrios a specialist, and

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Speaker 1: it kind of just like fell into place from there,

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Speaker 1: but it did take over a decade for somebody to

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Speaker 1: take me seriously, so like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they really messed up. Part of it is

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Speaker 2: if you just decided that you didn't want to have kids,

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Speaker 2: you never would have had it taken care of at

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Speaker 2: least if you stayed at that practice that you were at.

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Speaker 2: So well, the only reason that they know is because

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Speaker 2: you were getting worked out for infertility.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I think that, you know, I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of it stems with you just have to sometimes

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Speaker 1: move around the different practices until you actually find somebody

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Speaker 1: that you think is taking you seriously, because a lot

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Speaker 1: of them just don't or they don't have time for it.

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Speaker 1: So sorry that you're going through all of that. That's

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