1 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans is for those who make plans 3 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: for everything except themselves. We make it easy and affordable 4 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: for Tennesseeans who don't have a group or employer plan. 5 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: Visit FBHP dot com to learn more. With Amy Wells 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: and Rhet Bryan. I'm Mike Keith, and we are thrilled 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: to be joined by our friend. Uh like that right now? 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: He's NFL Networks Charles Davis. In the fall, he's CBS 9 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: Sports Charles Davis. Yeah, thank you. I'm just glad I'm something. 10 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: You're a man of all season. You know, I want 11 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: I want to be somebodies. That's all. You got to 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: call the super Bowl again? Yeah? That was fun? Is 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: tenth okay? Now explain to people who because everybody's like, 14 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: hold it a minute. I watched the game. I saw 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Burkhart and Greg Olson and and and Aaron Andrews 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: do a fantastic job on that game. What do you 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: mean you called the super Bowl? You called the super Bowl? 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: Explained for whom you do the game and how it works. 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: It's an international broadcast. NFL Films does an international broadcast 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: that goes to And it's so funny because I don't 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: trust the numbers, but I think they said something like 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty countries. Now I don't think we 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: went to Australia and a couple of other players. I 24 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: think ESPN has carved out that area and they called 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: the game for them. But in Bulgaria, in Liechtenstein, the 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: Easter Islands, they know who Charles Davis is. Well. The 27 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: last time, last time I was in Bermuda, darn near 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: set off a riot. The government did ask me not 29 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: to come back for not just kidding, but that's that's 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: what you do. And you know I didn't believe it's 31 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: I'll tell you very quickly. Two years ago I called 32 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: the game with Kevin Burkhardt. So Kevin had no idea 33 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: that everything's gonna shift the next year and he was 34 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: going to be the guy right. This is before everything 35 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: blew up. Kevin and I called the game for two 36 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: or three years. Before that was Bob Popham. And when 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: I was with Bob one day, he goes, hey, check 38 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: your phone, check your phone, and I forgot where we 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: were and I turned on and I look and there's 40 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: this text from a couple of friends of ours on 41 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: the PGA tour. Okay, okay. They were in Dubai and 42 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: they were like, hey, listen to the game over here. 43 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. You guys are doing great. I was like, 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: I guess it really does go somewhere. Then I forgotten 45 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: thought AD didn't really go anywhere. And then I was 46 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: with Kevin and he goes shows me something middle of 47 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: the game. He goes, just turn it on and listen, 48 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: and it was a video and you could see a 49 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: TV screen, you could see the Super Bowl Rams and Bengals, 50 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: and then you heard our voices and I was like, 51 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: where's that. He goes a friend of mine's in Thailand. 52 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: He's watching Wow. So it is real, like it does 53 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: go places. This was my tenth which is amazing to me. 54 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: Tenth time. So when it's all said and done and 55 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: when it's time to get rid of me and it's 56 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: close it, I can say I did super Bowls, even 57 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: though it wasn't our main network very well. Maybe able 58 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: to say I've done more Super Bowls than anything. Wouldn't 59 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: that be something, right? But it's a fun thing. I'm 60 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: so fortunate NFL Films has giving me this opportunity, and 61 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: Bob Papa couldn't do it anymore because of golf commitments. 62 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: Kevin came in and did it, and obviously he's got 63 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: a different commitment now and I'm so happy and proud 64 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: for him. And this past year I and Eagle came 65 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: in and did it. So my broadcast partner with CBS 66 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 1: working so well with you and Iron because Iron can 67 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: make Iron is so good and it's really similar to 68 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: sitting here with you, my friend, and I hope you 69 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: got my note recently. I know we're on the Tennessee broadcast, 70 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: but this is for real. You Iron, people of your 71 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: ILK are so good and making sure everyone is involved 72 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: the right way while commanding your stage to do every 73 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: thing that is supposed to be done. Yet we are 74 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: all teammates in it, even though you're the maestro. You 75 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: and I and have that you make everyone else around better. 76 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: We talk about players doing it. You I and can 77 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: do that. I've been fortunk work with a good number 78 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: of people who are good at that. All right. When 79 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: I think about the lineup of people I've worked with, 80 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: I've been missing darn good people, Okay, And I don't 81 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: want to miss any one, So I'm very careful about it. 82 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: But since I got to this level, quote unquote, NCAA, NFL, 83 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: think about this, Dick Stockton, Okay, Tom Renniman, Um, I'm Kenny, Albert, 84 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: Gus Johnson, I love Jeff and Burkhart. Right, how am 85 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: I doing? It's pretty good And every single one of 86 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: them gave me a chance to be better and it 87 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: was up to me to raise my game to reach 88 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: their level. I hope that makes sense. You're nice to 89 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: say that, but it's very true because that's what it 90 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: would be, because you know what my dream is for 91 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: you and me before we before we tap out, I 92 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: get to work with you and in a certain place, 93 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: certain places, and I hope it's not prison. A certain 94 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: place is near and dear to our hearts. And if 95 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: anybody's listening, well, before it all goes down, before it 96 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: all goes down, there's a couple of guys you might 97 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: want to think about bringing home. And I'll just leave 98 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: it at that. As my grandmother would say, you got 99 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: three guesses. You. Oh, Amy, thought I thought I was. 100 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: I thought I was being coy there. That was good, No, 101 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: it was it was subtle. It was um question about 102 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: the international broadcast really fast, and then we can move on. 103 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: Are they in English or do they dub over your 104 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: voices for the light? Great question. I think in certain countries, 105 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: like in the SAP button you see for Spanish, I 106 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: think that they probably have those buttons that they you know, 107 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: that we broadcast and they get THEIRS. I do know 108 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: there's a crew in Japan that has their own crew 109 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: that does the game. They get the feed and they 110 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: do the game, so instead of us doing it, they 111 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: know we're there, but they kind of like go over 112 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: the top of us. And it's really cool because I've 113 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: met that crew on multiple occasions. Hey Charles, are you doing? 114 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: I say, you guys ready? Oh, we're so ready, We're ready, 115 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: And they do the game themselves and before the game begins, 116 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: Amy down on the field, there's one camera. I don't 117 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: know if you guys have ever seen to do the 118 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. There's one camera and there's a person with 119 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: a clipboard and they have a lineup and it's all 120 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: the countries who are reporting from the game, and they 121 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: have like ten minutes or five minutes or whatever it is. 122 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: I don't even know what it is. First stins or 123 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: with a clipboard and they all right, well Garia, you're up, 124 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: and they go in and they do their report. All right, 125 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: here we go Russia. Boom, here we go, and they 126 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: just boom boom boom, and you I can see them 127 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: on the monitor up in the booth as they cycle 128 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: through doing their things. Our game we are never seeing 129 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: on air. We never have a stand up. We don't 130 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: have any of that. All you get is our voices. 131 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: So Bob Papa one year, goes, man, we gotta get 132 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: a stand up. We gotta get a stand up. I said, 133 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: how we gotta stand We can't get a stand upause, 134 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: come on, come on, come on. Went down to the 135 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: field and he knew the time that they started, and 136 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: we got their five minutes ahead of time, and he said, okay, 137 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: just jump in and follow my lead. And we jumped 138 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: in front of the camera and we faked and opened 139 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: and the person went the clipboard was and they were 140 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: looking up, looking up and they're like, what country? And 141 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: I don't have these people, And then we ran away 142 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: like like we were six year olds and laughed and 143 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: we laughed to this day about to do it was 144 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: all Bob's idea, totally inspired. But that's how they do 145 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: it to give their report back before the ball game, 146 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: and then our our broadcast carries the game for them. 147 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: And then of course, as you said, they're probably dubbing 148 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: it in in different languages. That's wild, what a cool thing. 149 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: So here we are at the combine, there's lots of storylines, 150 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: both with veterans in the league and then all the 151 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: three hundred nineteen young men brought here. I want a 152 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: couple of guys that are the more polarizing players in 153 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: this thing. For instance, be Jean Robinson, his head and 154 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: shoulders the top of this running back class. And we've 155 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: talked to some folks it's like they will flirt. Teams 156 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: will flirt with the ideas where do I draft him? 157 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: You know, is he a first round pick? And then 158 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: you think about, you know, Anthony Richardson in that quarterback class. 159 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: We know what he can do, but he can make 160 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: himself a lot of money this week. He can make 161 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: self a lot of money through this entire process going 162 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: up through there. So let's go back to be Jean Robinson. 163 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: I think he's a top five talent. Like, if you're 164 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: saying five players to me, he's in the top five. 165 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: Now will teams value him at the top of the 166 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: board because typically at the top five a running back 167 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: is not what you're looking for right he's her off 168 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: if he slides quote unquote, doesn't get drafted as high 169 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: and goes to one of those teams that needs him 170 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: to plug in and be their guy right away. I'm 171 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: looking at you, Buffalo, Okay, that sort of a deal 172 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: where he goes right in with a really good team, 173 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: plays well right away because as you know, as a runner, 174 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: you only have so many carries in you when people 175 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: are just smacking you all the time, even though you 176 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: have the most indestructible for us in the league. Earl 177 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: Campbell was that indestructible for us, and then one day 178 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: Arl just couldn't run anymore. It's just the accumulation, and 179 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: that's the way it is. That's the way you don't 180 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: even see it coming. Like running backs really don't fall 181 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: off the cliff. They just don't. They just can't get 182 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: to the cliff anymore. I mean, that's kind of how 183 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: it goes, and it's unfortunate, but I mean Earl Campbell 184 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: was the most incredible force of nature that I ever 185 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: saw growing up, and we watched those highlights and his 186 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: shirts shredded and people are smacking him and all that. 187 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: And one day he was at camp and they're like, well, 188 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: it looks like girls taking a slow this year at camp. 189 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: He's just gonna ease into it. No earl was done, 190 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: and no one knew it at the time. Probably he 191 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: didn't even know it. But he just couldn't hit the 192 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: gas anymore. That's why I say, with these runners, you 193 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: want to get on those teams, have that chance. So 194 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: Robinson's that way. Let's go to your quarterback because I 195 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: think he is, probably because quarterbacks are so big, He's 196 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: the one that if he walks in this room right now, 197 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: we all fall in love. Have you seen him in person? 198 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: Oh my, oh my, Okay, I'm just telling you guys, 199 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: is he is beautiful, gorgeous, big, sixty three, two hundred 200 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: forty five pounds. You know when he throws the football, 201 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: that bad boy just jumps off of his hands. Problem 202 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: is sometimes it's sometimes it's woo. He hasn't been consistent. 203 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: If you take the Utah game to open last year, 204 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: you're like, oh lord, I gotta have this kid. He 205 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: did it all throwing, passing the upset Utah big one. 206 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: Go to some of his games in the middle of 207 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: the year. I don't think every threw for twenty fifty 208 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: yards in a game at Florida. Okay, now, different things. 209 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm not putting it all on him. He hasn't had 210 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: enough college starts from me. But guess what, folks were 211 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: not getting to Bill Parcel's formula anymore. It's not happening 212 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: where you're getting a four year starter three years. You know, 213 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: three years starter win so many games, blah blah blah, 214 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: they're not staying and it's understandable. So you're taking him 215 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: on spec. Okay, if you're drafting him, in my mind, 216 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: to be your starter day one, but that's a big reach. 217 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: But if you're drafting him to be your starter down 218 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: the road with some time, that makes sense because Josh 219 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: Allen has increased the the chances people will take with 220 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: low percentage college throwers. Because you remember, when Josh came out, 221 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 1: We're all like, he's a fifty some percent thrower. No 222 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: one's going to throw more than that. He wouldn't do 223 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: seventy percent. So if you're in love with someone, you say, 224 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: see Josh Allen did, we can do it with him. 225 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: Josh is still the outlier. People have forgotten that, so 226 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. But I'm telling you he is. 227 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: He is the most good looking quarterbacks sement on the 228 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: board in this draft, and it's not even close. And 229 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: what I've seen and read, people have pointed to footwork 230 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: as a big part of the inconsistencies for him. Agree 231 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: with that. Yes, And when you have a big arm 232 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: like he has, you get away with footwork faults a 233 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: lot because your arm overcomes it. But your arm overcomes 234 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: it when you're playing guys like me in college who 235 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: later became CPA's and broadcasters. When you're playing the real 236 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: NFL guys, they go get it. And that's where the 237 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: difference is. And that's why he's got to increase the 238 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: footwork and all that. And it happens with a lot 239 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: of these young college quarterbacks. You know, the offenses that 240 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: are being run, and I'm not putting them down because 241 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: those are offenses the pros are adopting. But the footwork 242 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: still count. It still matters. Bryce Young's footwork versus Anthony 243 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: Richardson's footwork light years apart. Well, let's talk about this 244 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: quarterback class as a whole. A little bit, because it 245 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: seems as though there are kind of tiers of guys 246 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: within this group, may be more so than we've seen 247 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: in recent years, where there's a clear top couple of 248 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: guys and then there's kind of a mid level and 249 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: then there's everybody else. Would would you agree with them? Agreed? 250 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: And you know, there's no Trevor Lawrence this year, right, 251 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: there's no Matthew Stafford at the top of the board 252 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: this year. There's no pick your year? Right, that that 253 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: guy that everyone had to go get Andrew Luck, right? Heck, 254 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck ended up getting pressed by RG three. Okay, 255 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: and that was that was No one saw that coming 256 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: that year, but it happened and it was legit. This year, 257 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: Bryce Young is he your guy? Some people say he's 258 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: too small? Okay, did see j S. Rouger guy? I 259 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: didn't see any movement until the Georgia game, and my 260 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: god did he moved around and played really well? Are 261 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: you will? Loves Fan? Yeah? You know, completion percent little 262 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: inconsistent here. Didn't have the big year last year. Oh yeah, 263 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: he didn't have a big blue wall in front of 264 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: him that he had before. You know, we can always 265 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: come up with different things. But Matt Ryan came out, 266 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: he threw a lot of interceptions. Well, he didn't have 267 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: any receivers in college. If you liked him he went 268 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: with that turned out that was pretty accurate. Sometimes it's 269 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: not Hendon Hooker Tennessee. Oh my god, that offense. Everyone's 270 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: wide open. I mean, how you mean with the heck, 271 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: ye have a guess what. He doesn't miss wide open targets. 272 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: And that's what we said about Marcus Mariota coming out 273 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: when he was in the number two pick. They were 274 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: wide open. They didn't miss him, and Hooker doesn't miss him. 275 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: And people want to ding him for being twenty five. 276 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: That's I guess what I want a twenty five year 277 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: old rookie quarterback because he's gonna get in a huddle 278 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: and stare at all the rest of those ten people. 279 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: He may have a little more presence to him than 280 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: maybe the twenty year old might. Okay, so that's what 281 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: we're dealing with. And then if Richardson we've already talked about, 282 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: I mean just absolutely, and then you're gonna get to 283 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: that next level of guys and aid no, come all 284 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: out of Purdue, right, how do you break down all 285 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: of that Jake Hayner played well from Fresno State, but 286 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: he's not real big and tall. Let's go back to 287 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: Bryce Young for a second. I mean he's my favorite, 288 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: by the way, So you know I said it last year, 289 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: and I told people last year it's gonna be hard 290 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: for me to get off of Bryce Young's my number one. 291 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: I don't care what the size is. I will deal 292 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: with that. And he showed me a lot of toughness 293 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: this year because my report is that it was hard 294 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: for him to practice the last seven eight weeks of 295 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: the year, yet he played on Saturday. He played really well. 296 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: How does his game translate to the National Football League. 297 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: He throws from the pocket better than he gets credit for. 298 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: People think he's this incredible friend Tarkington Scrambler because we've 299 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: seen some of those plays. He will go, He's gonna 300 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: pick up a first down or two for you during 301 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: the year during a game with his feet. But he 302 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: extends to throw. He doesn't extend to run as much. 303 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: He runs when is necessary, makes a lot more plays 304 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: from the pocket than he gets credit for, and sees things, 305 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: oh my goodness. I mean sometimes he see throws. You're like, 306 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: where how did he see that, and he saw it 307 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: and put it in a spot that other people couldn't 308 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: go get. And I think he's tough as nails. I 309 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: think he's matures all get out, coming from the system 310 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: he's coming from. He is a playmaker extraordinaire. And if 311 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: you go back last year and you know, Alabama people 312 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: really upset, Oh my god, we weren't in a college 313 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: football playoff? What happened to us this year? I will 314 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: remind my Alabama brethren, our valls beat them on a 315 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: last second field goal, and they lost at LSU in 316 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: overtime on a two point play, and now you're a 317 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: bad team. That's how they lost last year. And they 318 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: had a field goal to beat Tennessee with less than 319 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: thirty seconds. And so all that being said, but I 320 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: will say this too, if Bryce Young doesn't play against Tennessee, 321 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: Tennessee wins by three touchdowns. He just kept bringing them back. Well, 322 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: they were down twenty eight ten and he brought him back. 323 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: He brought him back in Knoxville with the crowd shaking 324 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: the stadium, he brought him back to take turn on 325 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: the LSU tape and watching onto that game. This kid, 326 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: to me, is the best playmaker in the draft. That's 327 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: why I'm not taking him off the top. But the 328 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: size thing doesn't bother you from a durability standpoint, because 329 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: I haven't seen the durabilities show up yet in terms 330 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: of him not being able to answer the bell. One 331 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: game miss last year, and that was really much more precautionary. 332 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: If it had been playing tend to see that week, 333 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: he would have played. So I see it, and I 334 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: think it's real. I have people who tell me I 335 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: just I just can't go there. He's just too small. 336 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: I get it. But I think the way the game 337 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: is played now, in the good old days, when we 338 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: were kids, Masta Don's played quarterback. Okay, Peyton was Peyton's 339 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: bigger than what people know. Boomer Sizing is a really 340 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: big man. Dan Marino's a large human being. Doug Williams 341 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: when he walks here, A good god, that's a quarterback, 342 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: all right. These people were all that size because they 343 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: took ungodly hits in the pocket all the time. Now 344 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: you're protected a lot more, there's a lot more movement. 345 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: I will take my chances with him. If I'm wrong, 346 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm wrong to the question of strength and durability with him. 347 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: I've thought all week going into this because he's not 348 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: gonna go into some miraculous cross spurt hand size. Were 349 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: always talking about height, whatever. I feel like if he 350 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: has added some play weight, some play strength, that eases 351 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: my mind a little bit now that he can't carry 352 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: a whole lot, but I would like to know that 353 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: when he gets on this scales, he's a few more 354 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: pounds like a lot of players you'll see this week. 355 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: Remember when we were here a few years ago and 356 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: it was announced that Kyler Murray was over five ten 357 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: and everybody went, oh, you remember that one. Remember when 358 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: it was announced that Joe Burrow had hit nine inches 359 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: on the hand size, they made fifty million dollars. I'm 360 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: telling you we're gonna be waiting on Friday, like, what 361 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: do we get did we hear? Did we hear? Do 362 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: we hear? That's gonna be That's gonna be the win 363 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: for him because we saw it with Kyler Murray, Charles Davis. 364 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: Our time is up. Oh man, we're just starting to 365 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: get they're yelling at me. They're over there. You know. 366 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: We got a new guy up to and I'm telling this, 367 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: I just literally met tofur eight minutes ago ten minutes ago, 368 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: and tofur's already flexing. Yeah, is that right? Oh yeah, 369 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: he's he let me know who's in charge, and it's 370 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: certainly not me. Well, we've got Jordan Reid waiting to 371 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: come in. Okay, well you in that case, you get 372 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: somebody big because they're threatening and I have a good option. 373 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: I gotta go and by and by the way, Jordan Reid, boys, 374 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: he good? I know, yes, Well that's why we're gonna 375 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: have Is he good? Thank you so much, Thank you, guys, 376 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: Charles David. It's halftime of the OTP, presented by Duncan Rewards. 377 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: Download the app today to join and start saving. And 378 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: you're stacking your way to free Duncan. That's coffee, that's 379 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: other drinks, that's breakfast in which is and certainly that's 380 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: donuts Duncan Rewards. Save him, stack them, use them how 381 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: you want. America runs on Duncan terms apply so as promised. 382 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: After halftime of the OTP, tagging in for our great 383 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: friend Charles Davis, Jordan Reid, how are you, MISTERI I'm good. 384 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: That's a tough act to follow up. Following up CD 385 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: CD CD is pretty great. We consider him pretty great. 386 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: But we consider you pretty great. Thank you. I know 387 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: ESPN does too. You are becoming a guru, my friend. 388 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying my best. How are you liking that? I'm 389 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: loving it. I'm I'm I mean, this is like a 390 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 1: kid in the candy store. I gotta just being here 391 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: at the combine. Just blessed to be here another year. Okay, 392 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: So Charles talked a lot about quarterback as we want 393 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: to talk to you about wide receivers. Really weird wide 394 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: receiver draft, isn't it. It is? And you know, we've 395 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: been so spoiled with really good wide receiver classes over 396 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 1: the past five years or so. It's a little bit 397 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: different with this class just because there isn't that dominant 398 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: number one type of guy. There isn't a Jamar Chase 399 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: or any type of you know, bonafide superstar that's stepping 400 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: into the league right now. But there's a lot of 401 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: value in the second and third round even beyond that. 402 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: So I'm really interested to see what happens with this 403 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver class and then what their future holds. Okay, 404 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: So what we'd like to do is the group would 405 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: like to hit you with some wide receiver names and 406 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: then kind of give us your thumbnail on them. Rhet 407 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: Bryan gets to go first. Zay Flowers Boston College. One 408 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: of my favorite players in this draft class. And I 409 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: got an opportunity to see Za at the East West 410 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: Shrine game. He only practiced for one day, but you 411 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: knew when he stepped on the field that one day 412 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: you were like, WHOA, this guy's different from anybody else 413 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: out here. So that would be the one word I 414 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: would use to describe Za is just different. He's very 415 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: quick twitched, he has strong hands, and then you know 416 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: he understands how to get open too. But he's also 417 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: a return specialist too, so you can use him in 418 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: different areas, and he wears so many different hats. What 419 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: about a guy like Quentin Johnston, the wide receiver out 420 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: of TCU, big body receiver, he's one of the few 421 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: bigger receivers in this group. He's about six foot three, 422 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen pounds, and he reminds you a 423 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: lot of t Higgins when he was coming out of Clempson, 424 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: who's gone on to be a really good player for 425 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. Really strong hands, has that big body, 426 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: can jump and climb the ladder and just get those 427 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: balls out of the strike zone. And he's what I 428 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: like to call an inaccuracy or racer when you're talking 429 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: about quarterbacks that aren't necessarily very accurate, but he can 430 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: make them look very good. Jordan Addison wide receiver, USC, 431 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: very very good player. And you know, he came over 432 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: from Pitt to USC, and even though I thought he 433 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: looked like a little bit of a different player at USC, 434 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: just because he had a different role, I thought some 435 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: of the same qualities that you saw when he won 436 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: the Bulletinakoff Award in twenty twenty one, he showed a 437 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: lot of similarity. So just to kind of paint a 438 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: picture of the type of receiver that he is, just 439 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: from an on the field perspective, he reminds you a 440 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: lot of Calvin Ridley. We'll go back to a little 441 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: bigger receiver University of Tennessee, Cedric Tillman. Yeah, another big 442 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: body receiver. Kind of reminds you of Gabe Davis from 443 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill's very strong hands, really thick body. And 444 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: got an opportunity to see when they played against South 445 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: Carolina this year, and I was really impressed with him 446 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: up close I'd love to stick with Tennessee and talk 447 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: about another receiver in Jalen Hyatt speed. I mean, he's 448 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: gonna fly in the forty. It wouldn't surprise me if 449 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: he runs probably probably four to eight to fourty three two. 450 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: I think that's somewhere in the range that he's going 451 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: to run. Really good hands, and he reminds you a 452 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: lot of Will Fuller, who was a twenty sixteen first 453 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: round pick, and I'll be really surprised if he doesn't 454 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: go in the first round. I think that highly of 455 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: Jalen Hyatt and he brings a different dynamic to an offense. 456 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: Rashi Rice at SMU, Yeah, another player that I was 457 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: impressed with at the Senior Bowl, the something whatever. You 458 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: want to see those guys that are coming from lower 459 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: level schools, and that's no knock against SMU, but when 460 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: he was at the Senior Bowl, he was playing some 461 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: of the best competition that he ever went up again, 462 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: so you want to see him get off pressed a 463 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: little bit more. I think that's something that he has 464 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: to improve upon, But as far as the explosiveness and 465 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: the big playability, he definitely has that. Where we want 466 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 1: to go next is defensive backs because the Titans are 467 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: like every team in the NFL, they're looking for a corner. 468 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: I think you're probably gonna draft a corner somewhere every 469 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: single year, Rhett, Who are the corners you'd like to 470 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: begin with. Let's start with Cam Smith from South Carolina. Feisty, Yeah, 471 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I just love Cam Smith just because he 472 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: brings a different type of attitude right away to your secondary. 473 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: And he's another player that I got to see up 474 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: close this year against Tennessee. I got to see him 475 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: and Jalen Hyatt go back and forth. I had a 476 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: front real seat to see those guys go back and forth. 477 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: And he was up to the task that game. Jalen 478 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: Hyatt had one of his worst games of the year 479 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: against Cam Smith. And a great thing about Cam Smith 480 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: is that he brings inside and outside of versatility, so 481 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: he can play nickel, but also he can play outside 482 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: corner as well. What about a guy like Deonte Banks, 483 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: the corner out of Maryland. Yeah, junkyard dog, that's the 484 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: way to describe him. He's one of those dudes that 485 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: whenever you put him in the secondary, you know, whenever 486 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: he makes a play, he's gonna let the entire stadium 487 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: know that he just made a play and he has 488 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: that type of confidence and you see it on tape. 489 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: Ohio State was one of his best games of the year. 490 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: Big body guy, every bit of six foot two, two 491 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: hundred and five pounds. So entering the NFL right now, 492 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna be one of the bigger corners in the league. 493 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: Christian gonzalas Oregon one of my favorite players overall, and 494 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: this not only in this year's cornerback group, but just 495 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: as a whole. I think he's my number six overall 496 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: player right now, and he's one player that I expect 497 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: to test. I think he's gonna blow the doors off 498 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: of the combine. He's gonna run probably in the four 499 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: threes if I had to guess, he's gonna jump over 500 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: forty in the vertical, and then the broad jump he's 501 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: gonna leap through that as well. So Christian Gonzale is 502 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: a player that came over from Colorado to Oregon this year. 503 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: The one thing that he was lacking was ball production. 504 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: He didn't have any interceptions prior to this year during 505 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: his career. But he goes out and he gets four 506 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: this year. I don't think the safety class is super 507 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: super big and deep. But the guy I think is 508 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: considered the consists best guy at safety Brian Branch from 509 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: Alabama right there with you. And something that happens with 510 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: Area scouts a lot of my buddies in the league, 511 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: they say, when we go through our board, we like 512 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: to put gold stars beside guys that we love. So 513 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: Brian Branch would be one of my gold star players 514 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: this year just because he played that infamous star position 515 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: that we've seen in years past. Micah Fitzpatrick going through 516 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: that program and you just hear Nick Saban talk about 517 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: Brian Branch. It's very rare to see him just glow 518 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: about a player. So that just shows that he not 519 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: only has an effect on the field, but also he's 520 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: a great person off of the field too. So Brian 521 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: Branch one of my favorite players in this group. What 522 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: about Emmanuel Forbes from Mississippi State, Yeah, he's one that 523 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: he's a turnover machine. I mean he has six pick sixes, 524 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: which is the NC double A record, So he's a 525 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: turnover machine. And he's a little bit skinny right now. 526 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: He's about six foot, one hundred and eighty pounds, but 527 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that just understands how to 528 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: get his hands on the football overall? Do you like 529 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: the defensive backs as a group, and who have we 530 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: not mentioned that you think automatically needs to be mentioned. 531 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: You put me on the spot here. I love this 532 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: cornerback group, and I love a defensive backgroup as the 533 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: whole cornerback a little bit more than safety. I think 534 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: it's deeper. But I think when you're going through this 535 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: All Star Game circuit, it really shows just how deep 536 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: this cornerback classes. And we didn't even mention guys like 537 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: a Keiley Ringo from Georgia, who I think could be 538 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: probably late first early second round pick. Expand on Keiley 539 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: Ringo a little bit. I'm sorry I missed him. Okay, 540 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: so coming into the season, he was seeing presumably as 541 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: a top ten pick. But the thing with Keiley is 542 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: that he's a little bit more athlete than football player 543 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: right now. So what I mean by that is he's 544 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: gonna test out of the roof at the Combine this year. 545 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: He's gonna run for three, he's gonna jump forty plus, 546 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: and he's going to test in the higher percentage of everything. 547 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: But he only started playing cornerback four years ago. So 548 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: the thing with Keiley is that all of last year 549 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 1: when he made the great interception in the National Title Game, 550 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know he was only nineteen 551 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: years old during his sophomore season, so well, he just 552 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: turned twenty years old this year. So he's a really 553 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: really young player, and he has to be in a 554 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: system that's more so catered to his strengths as a 555 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: zone defender. But at Georgia he was asked to play 556 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 1: a lot of man coverage, so there was a lot 557 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: of opportunities of where he went up against some of 558 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: these top flight receivers like a Marvin Harrison junior at 559 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: Ohio State who was probably gonna be a top five 560 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: pick when we're here next year. And he's asked to 561 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: play man coverage against that type of guy the entire game, 562 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: and he just didn't look good. But that doesn't really 563 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: cater to his strength. You want him more so in 564 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: his own type of scheme, all right, So let's have 565 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: some fun, are thought we were already having fun to 566 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: chime in like that, Yes, every time, that's why I'm here. 567 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: That's called a segue, all right. Ord ESPN Titans pick eleventh. 568 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: Best case scenario for the tennis he tightens in your 569 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: opinion at eleven, who's the player offensive tackle it? Could 570 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: you want Peter Scarronski of Northwestern? I think that would 571 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: be a really good selection for them, just because he 572 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: and yes, I do, Okay, So with Skronski, I think 573 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: it's a situation of where you just have to allow 574 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: him to play tackle until he shows you that he 575 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: cannot play tackle. But the great thing about him is 576 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: that he actually came to Northwestern as a center. A 577 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: lot of people don't know that he's played all five 578 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: positions during his time at Northwestern, but when they lost 579 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: Rashawn Slater, they kicked him out to tackle, and then 580 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: they he showed that, okay, I can survive and maintain 581 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: at this offensive tackle spot, and with that being a 582 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: premium position, we're gonna go ahead and leave him at 583 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: left tackle and not worry about that anymore. So I 584 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: think if you get him at eleven and us say 585 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't work out a tackle, I think best case scenario, 586 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: he can be a Pro Bowl level guard or center 587 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: for you. All Right, So let's really have some fund out, George. 588 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: If one of the top tackles is not there at eleven. 589 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: Who is the player of most talent and of most 590 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: value that you think will be there that you could 591 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: not pass up. That's a great question, Thank you. I 592 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: could see the Titans going, I could see him going cornerback. 593 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: I can see him going cornerback again. Christian Gonzalez, I 594 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: think will be a great pick. Devon Weatherspoon, who's a 595 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: player we did not mention, I think he would be 596 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: a great pick too. So any of those two guys 597 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: at cornerback, Gonzalez or Witherspoon, I think will be great 598 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: picks like those positions because you always need him, you know. 599 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: Offensive line we've talked about a lot earlier on the OTP. 600 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: Great value when you can get rookies who can be 601 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: starters in terms of a cost effect type thing towards 602 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: the cap. Certainly the same with corners too. Corners that 603 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: money's getting crazy, it is, and it's not gonna stop. 604 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: Corners and receivers are going to continue to get paid. 605 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: All right, you said something, you said, Christian Gonzalez, one 606 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: of my favorite players in the draft. Who are your 607 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: favorite players in so we just went through a lot 608 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: of them. Less one. Brian branch Is another. Of course, 609 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. I like the quarterbacks a lot. Stroud and 610 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: Bryce Young. We'll talk plenty of about those guys throughout 611 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: the week, But as far as those four guys, I 612 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: really liked them a lot. Who do you like small 613 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: school or from a Nonpower five program that you think 614 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: could be a really good Day two or Day three selection? 615 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: Who you put me on the spot with that? So 616 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: one player I would say Titan fans need to keep 617 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: in mind. His name is Cody Mack, and he's an 618 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: offensive lineman from North Dakota State and they played him 619 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: at offensive tackle, but I think he's probably gonna have 620 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: to be a guard on the next level. But you 621 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: talk about somebody that has finishing ability. He's very nasty. 622 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: And actually put this in my scouting report about him, 623 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: I said, if I was a celebrity, he would be 624 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: one of the first guys that I picked to be 625 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: my security guard, just because he just likes throwing guys. 626 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: He likes tossing guys around. So, Cody Mack, North Dakota State, 627 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: I think he's a player that Titans fans need to 628 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: get to know a lot. Do you like him better 629 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: because he has no front teeth? I mean he has 630 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: that look of an offensive linemen. It's very appealing. It's 631 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: very appealing, and I've noticed that just going through So 632 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: I go through guys bios during summer scouting and I 633 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: noticed I was like, man, that guy's missing some front seat. 634 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: He just looks like an offensive lineman. Yeah. I mean 635 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: there's a mentality. He says he's not getting the front 636 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: teeth fixed until he's finished playing football, which makes sense, 637 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: totally makes sense. I mean he's a bright kid. I 638 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: interviewed him at the Senior Bolt. I really enjoyed him. 639 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean there's there's a rationale behind why he's doing 640 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: what he's doing. But in watching him in those drills, oh, 641 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: he liked it. Yeah, he liked mixing it up. And 642 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: you know there's some dudes that just, oh yeah, let's 643 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: do this again. This is fun, a little crazy. Yeah, 644 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: he has that nastiness that's factor about him, which is 645 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 1: what you want in the offensive lineman. You want those 646 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: guys to finish other guys in the dirt, just because 647 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: that's what the Titans need. They need some offensive lineman especially. 648 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: I think Ran Carthon's going to come in and do 649 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: a good job and him being a former running back, 650 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna value offensive line, especially just hearing 651 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: them talk yesterday, they're gonna value running the football too, 652 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: which has been the Titans identity for a long time. 653 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: If you were drafting a running back, Jordan Reed, where 654 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: would you pick one in this draft? Probably Day two, 655 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: a day three. I'm not a big believer in drafting 656 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: running backs in the first round, just because it's such 657 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: a disposable position. And I mean, look at the Super Bowl. 658 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: Miles Sanders was a second round pick of the Philadelphia Eagles, 659 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: and then Isaiah Pacheco, who was the seventh round gym 660 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: for the Kansas City Chiefs. And I just think you 661 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: could find those guys in any situation and circumstance. There's 662 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: no need to take one in the first round. One 663 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: of my favorites in that area Taj Spears from Tulane, 664 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: who we saw him mobile at the Senior Bowl. Yeah. 665 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he was so explosive. I think he was 666 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: one of the best overall players regardless of position, and 667 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: I think one of the game that really boosted his 668 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: stock was how he played against USC in the bowl game. 669 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: I think that's really where he exploded onto the scene, 670 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: and he's what I like to call an ascending prospect, 671 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: So he's building up steam. He played well during the year, 672 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: but the USC game against a Power five opponent that 673 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: really helped him a lot. And then he goes down 674 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: and he dominates the Senior Bowl too, So he's definitely 675 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: a prospect that's on the rise right now. If there's 676 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: a team that's looking for running back and follows your 677 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: philosophy of getting them later in rounds, there are some 678 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: decent guys that you can get in later in this draft, 679 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: right yeah. I mean this outside of probably tight end, cornerback, 680 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: and edge rusher, I think a running back is right 681 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: there as far as the fourth deepest position group overall. 682 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,479 Speaker 1: I mean I can rule off like ten or fifteen 683 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: guys that I like right now. Eric Gray of Oklahoma 684 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,479 Speaker 1: he's one that I like a lot. Tay J. Spears, 685 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: who we just talked about. And if you're looking for 686 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: a really really late round guy that I like a lot, 687 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: Dwayne McBride from UAB He's one that I like a 688 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: lot too. Jordan Reed, you are a guru. Thank you 689 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: for stepping in for Charles Davis. I mean, this has 690 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: been maybe the best one two edition of the OTP. 691 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: We've ever had you and CD. Well done, sir, Thank 692 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,479 Speaker 1: you and congratulations on how well your career is going. 693 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: You are you're becoming a superstar. Mister. I hope you 694 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: will still talk to us. Oh, absolutely, always make time 695 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: for you guys. Thanks, thank you absolutely for Amy Wells 696 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: and Rhett Brian. I'm Mike Keith, thanking you for listening 697 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: to the OTP. Welcome to the Big Show where the 698 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: legends go. Neverbotten knows it's our house, finding thoughts Tennessee, 699 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: making us three Greatness is b