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Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host, Rashaan McDonald. Our theme is

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Speaker 1: there's no perfect time to start following your dreams. I

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Speaker 2: For you and maybe decide to.

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Speaker 1: Your HM, it's time to stop reading other people's success

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation Master Class. So it's raining today, and

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: Forshaw McDonald. We do this every week. The interviews and

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Speaker 1: information this show provides off for everyone. It's time to

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Speaker 1: start reading other people's success stories and really start living

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Speaker 1: your own. My guess She's on the line has authored

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Speaker 1: a book entitled The Courage to Continue Navigating Your Corporate Journey.

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Speaker 1: She's a retired Chief Information officer for FedEx custom Critical.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass, Cheryl Bevel Orange.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, Cheryl Hi Rashan. Thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for having me today. I'm excited to be here and

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Speaker 3: to have this conversation.

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Speaker 1: You got that little Southern twain working there, Cheryl? Were

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Speaker 1: you born and raised?

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Speaker 3: Come on now where I'm originally from Bessemer, Alabama. Most

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Speaker 3: people don't know where that is, but it's right outside

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Speaker 1: Well, I know what best is all that good barbecue

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Speaker 1: because good friend of mine, Ricky Smiley, I always go

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about you, Cheryl your book, The Courage to

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Speaker 1: Continue Navigating your Corporate Journey. Why did you write the book?

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Speaker 3: Well, I am a first generation corporate American. My dad

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Speaker 3: was a coal miner, my mother was a teacher. They're

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Speaker 3: so I started jotting down things that I began to

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Speaker 3: build my family with my husband, and I was like,

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Speaker 3: navigate in this space because most people are going into

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Speaker 3: coach others, I was like, everybody needs this information, not

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Speaker 3: just my children. So I started to officially write my

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Speaker 3: book and it has it has just grown from there.

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Speaker 3: Over the pandemic, I added a new layer to it

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Speaker 3: it took the book to another level. So, you know,

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Speaker 3: I started out for personal reasons and then it just

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Speaker 3: went from there. Figured everybody could use some good information.

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Speaker 1: Was some great information I have the copy of the

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Speaker 1: book you autographed it. Thank you very much, sure for

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Speaker 1: say Chief Information Officer of FedEx Critical Custom Critical. First

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Speaker 3: So FedEx Custom Critical is a subsidiary of FedEx Logistics Company.

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Speaker 3: But it is the company that when we needed Codd vaccine,

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Speaker 1: You know, I really appreciate you telling me that honest story,

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Speaker 1: on and so. But your book was it covered three

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Speaker 1: why I brought you on the show. Mentorship, advocacy, and

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Speaker 1: This is Rashan mc, your host. I am speaking to

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Speaker 1: Cheryl Orange. She wrote the book The Courage to Continue

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Speaker 1: Navigating Your Corporate Journey and three pillows. I call them

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Speaker 2: Those three pillows gave.

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Speaker 1: I always tell people I got in college because my

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Speaker 1: She's special. Her name is from Bessemer, Alabama, right outside

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Speaker 2: Cheryl. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Wow. It's always appreciate. You know, the life I led

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Speaker 3: You can get this book on Cherylborrange dot com. That

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Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend. I really want to appreciate you

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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you for having me. I enjoyed it.

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