Speaker 1: Second d One of the most vulnerable, confusing times of
Speaker 1: your life happens when you're trying to rejoin the dating
Speaker 1: pool a fresh off a breakup. Oh, that is very hard.
Speaker 1: Whether it was fifteen months ago or fifteen minutes ago,
Speaker 1: you're just the choice to hop back on to Tinder.
Speaker 1: You only waited fifteen minutes after you That was a
Speaker 1: long time for in his eye. And that's where one
Speaker 1: of our listeners, Paul, is at in his life. He's
Speaker 1: newly single, and I know Brooke always says the best
Speaker 1: way to get over somebody is to get under twenty
Speaker 1: somebodies and a video so that don't Google search my name.
Speaker 1: Was that your goal, Paul? That was the goal, is
Speaker 1: to move on for suresh. He just didn't put batteries
Speaker 1: in the camera that takes loss. We're just messing around
Speaker 1: with you, Paul. But how long has it been since
Speaker 1: your breakup? Yeah? About a month ago, And that's right.
Speaker 1: I know, I don't want to talk too much about
Speaker 1: the breakup, is that okay? Yeah? Yeah? How long did
Speaker 1: you guys date? Give us a little bit about the
Speaker 1: girl that you were with. We were we were living
Speaker 1: together for a long time. But you know, we were
Speaker 1: arguing all the time and just a kind of I
Speaker 1: mean totally honestly, I ended up being kind of a
Speaker 1: bad breakup. Okay, it sounds like it if you don't
Speaker 1: want to talk about it at all, but yeah, you're
Speaker 1: ready to get back out there and make it happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so I thought I found something sort of promising
Speaker 1: and I kind of a weird experience, and so I
Speaker 1: wanted to get your take on it. Maybe do you
Speaker 1: found something or did you find someone? No? Someone? Okay,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for us to call things. I
Speaker 1: don't know. We could try, but tell us about this
Speaker 1: something that you met the other day names Ashley? Okay,
Speaker 1: is this on an app? Are you back on the apps? Yeah?
Speaker 1: We met. We met on an app, I'm not ashamed
Speaker 1: to say it. And we met for dinner at a
Speaker 1: pretty nice restaurant actually, But you know, we talked on
Speaker 1: the phone a little bit before that a few times,
Speaker 1: and so I kind of felt like I knew her. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's good. Yeah, And so we were already kind of
Speaker 1: joking around. We got long at least on the phone
Speaker 1: when we met each other. We're sort of playful from
Speaker 1: the start, so that's all a good sign. I mean,
Speaker 1: did your breakup come up a lot in the conversation? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I've heard other other calls like this where people I
Speaker 1: end up admitting that, and I could tell you I
Speaker 1: did not. I didn't talk about the breakup at all.
Speaker 1: What did you talk about breakups in general? Didn't talk
Speaker 1: about But well, the first thing happened is we were
Speaker 1: in there. There was like this was it was a
Speaker 1: nice restaur and there was this sculpture in the lobby
Speaker 1: and we were start taking photos in front of it.
Speaker 1: That obviously means something like you know, no, it's just
Speaker 1: like maybe she wants to record like meeting you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not like it's not a big deal.
Speaker 1: We're taking sort of funny, goofy whatever photos. Or it's
Speaker 1: not like real photos, you know, right, I know, I
Speaker 1: don't take a picture with all guys at any time.
Speaker 1: I take a picture with the dude, it's solely so
Speaker 1: I can show my girlfriends what he looks like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it also brook to make some sign of a non disclosure.
Speaker 1: Well that's just for the Google searches. I am sorry
Speaker 1: to take us back to your date. You guys took
Speaker 1: photos in the lobby. How is dinner? It was really nice.
Speaker 1: We had we had written this conversation We're gonna know
Speaker 1: each other. We're still laughing a lot. And oh and
Speaker 1: we had this is kind of weird, but we had
Speaker 1: this little contest because I guess because we're both on
Speaker 1: social media, and the contest was who could take the
Speaker 1: best filter for their meal. That's kind of funny, who
Speaker 1: can make it look the best. Yeah, we were like,
Speaker 1: I don't care if the waiter judges us, but she won, okay,
Speaker 1: judge or would you guys go by likes? We moved
Speaker 1: by likes and she used I think she used Valencia
Speaker 1: on herself. I got a stake in the first with
Speaker 1: Mayfair and then I tried Vintage, but I feel like
Speaker 1: stake is it never looks good X pro two so
Speaker 1: he would know, but I mean steak photos aside, tell
Speaker 1: us more about this actual woman that you were with, Like,
Speaker 1: did you guys vibe? Yeah? Yeah, we were definitely viving.
Speaker 1: And actually after anybody went to we went to a bar. Oh,
Speaker 1: continue the night. I'm happy. I just can't believe she's
Speaker 1: not calling you back already. We did something weird happened
Speaker 1: at the bar, Was there any awkward points? No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm like, we got a little tipsy, and actually after
Speaker 1: the bar I ended up kissing her out, like right
Speaker 1: outside the bar. Was man, this is like a perfect date.
Speaker 1: Bro Hut did you I mean, is that with the
Speaker 1: end of the day the kiss? Yeah, a little bit
Speaker 1: after I took her home, But I mean I felt
Speaker 1: pretty good even But now it's been more than a
Speaker 1: week and it felt like I haven't heard from her
Speaker 1: at all, Like she's sort of like half answering me,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, Like I guess she's really busy
Speaker 1: or something. But and then I asked her about the
Speaker 1: date and I was like, oh, it wasn't that such
Speaker 1: a good time? And she kind of won't respond to
Speaker 1: that at all, which is really weird because I thought
Speaker 1: we had so much fun. Yeah, she probably saw that
Speaker 1: photo that you took of your stak was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this guy came into I mean, but seriously, do you
Speaker 1: think that maybe during the day, like at least in
Speaker 1: the back of your mind, you were comparing Ashley to
Speaker 1: your ex, because it's hard when you're fresh off of
Speaker 1: a break up to not do that. Yeah, I get,
Speaker 1: I mean, not that you mentioned I guess it was
Speaker 1: in the back of my mind kind of, But why
Speaker 1: would that affect his time with her? I mean like,
Speaker 1: it sounds like they had a great time and he
Speaker 1: didn't even talk about his ex. I know, maybe he
Speaker 1: just secretly drew her name in the steaks on his
Speaker 1: plate and didn't even realize what you do? Okay, that
Speaker 1: would be weird if he didn't remember that no steak
Speaker 1: juice that yeah, the only liquids I remember, the ones
Speaker 1: we share a kiss. I'm not gonna ask any more
Speaker 1: details were play a song. I don't know. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: why she's not calling. Maybe we'll find out. We'll come back,
Speaker 1: we'll call Ashley and we'll ask her about the juices.
Speaker 1: I get. Second, we're in the middle of talking to
Speaker 1: Paul for a second eate update, and he went out
Speaker 1: with a woman named Ashley recently. They took some photos
Speaker 1: together at a restaurant, hit up a bar, even kissed
Speaker 1: underneath a street light. And I only bring this up
Speaker 1: because he specifically told us please don't bring this up.
Speaker 1: The ex girlfriend was in the back of his mind
Speaker 1: the whole time. Everywhere he looked, there she was, her
Speaker 1: face on the waiter's face, her name on the restaurant menu,
Speaker 1: her scent in the second stall to the left, Cassie
Speaker 1: that you know, he doesn't think he talked about his
Speaker 1: ex that night. But as I've learned from working with
Speaker 1: my co host Brooke, you can't trust what a man thinks.
Speaker 1: Paul seems totally healthily moving on from his relationship, his
Speaker 1: ex relationships. She can recognize Michael from a stall, I could,
Speaker 1: But yeah, Paul, did I encapsulate the date the right way? There? Um?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just don't say no, Paul, you
Speaker 1: were thinking about your because I'm not really thinking about her.
Speaker 1: I really, it's old news. I'm really focused on Ashley
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I can't figure out why she isn't
Speaker 1: responding to me. Really, I can't either, because I mean,
Speaker 1: from your description that date sounded amazing. It was, and
Speaker 1: you're not looking to get into another relationship. You just
Speaker 1: want to date? Right? Well? I might, Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: I do want a new relationship. I'm okay, I'm moving on.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, yeah, you've pushed into that now. He's
Speaker 1: a relationship guy. I'm not going to bring that up.
Speaker 1: And when we call her right now, Okay, we're just
Speaker 1: gonna ask for another date. Is that cool with you, Paul? Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: Then you ask for a relationship on your own topic. Here,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell her number. Now let's do this. Hello. Hi,
Speaker 1: is this Ashley yea, and my name's Jeff from the
Speaker 1: radio show Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Okay, can
Speaker 1: always tell how they feel about the show based on
Speaker 1: that googwarm that's all right? Hi? Actually, Hi, Hey, so
Speaker 1: we're doing something with you? Did they called a second date? Update?
Speaker 1: One of our listeners has reached out to us hoping
Speaker 1: to get in touch with you. Oh, his name's Paul. Okay,
Speaker 1: then why would you call me? I mean we've been texting.
Speaker 1: He's getting the vibe that you're not really romantically interested
Speaker 1: in him anymore. Is he wrong? No, he's not wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not interested in pursuing it any further. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're allowed to feel that way. That's totally fine, But
Speaker 1: it would help, Paul, maybe if you could help explain
Speaker 1: to us why. I don't know. I mean he seemed
Speaker 1: really nice at first, and at the restaurant it was
Speaker 1: super cool. I don't know if he told you or not,
Speaker 1: but there was this blue sculpture in the front, and
Speaker 1: so we were like taking pictures yea, yeah, which we
Speaker 1: all thought was a really good sign because obviously you
Speaker 1: thought he was cute enough to take a photograph of. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he was on to suggest that. Oh okay, okay,
Speaker 1: But I thought it was fun. You know, I didn't
Speaker 1: really think a lot of it. I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, if I want to post something, you know,
Speaker 1: he'd be fine with that, right. And then you also
Speaker 1: did the social media thing with the food he said
Speaker 1: it did her Yeah, oh yeah, and that was actually
Speaker 1: pretty fun because I'm really good at the filters, Like
Speaker 1: I knew I would win. So yeah, okay, of course.
Speaker 1: But so where did it go from being fun to
Speaker 1: not fun? Well, I mean fast forward and we kissed
Speaker 1: under that like light or whatever, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely going out with this guy again for sure.
Speaker 1: So cute. Yeah, I was really excited. It was kind
Speaker 1: of that wondering when he's going to text, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's such a fun space to live. It's like
Speaker 1: the best part of dating that. That's a really good review.
Speaker 1: What's changed since then? Well, I decided to look at
Speaker 1: his social media the next day. Okay, that's natural. Anyone
Speaker 1: would do that picture he told us it didn't turn
Speaker 1: out good. Well, I mean mine was way better. But okay,
Speaker 1: he had posted all of the pictures of us, like
Speaker 1: in front of the statue. Oh no, I get it.
Speaker 1: You're an influencer and so it's part of your job.
Speaker 1: But it was just weird because I wasn't really expecting
Speaker 1: him to post them right after we just stated for
Speaker 1: the first time, right, yeah, telling you like, it's just
Speaker 1: kind of like if you check with you, like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, do you mind if I put those up on?
Speaker 1: Why would you take a picture if you wouldn't want
Speaker 1: anybody to see the picture? Everybody? I can. Actually, I
Speaker 1: do the same thing. You go on a date, you
Speaker 1: take a pick, and then that way, you know, in
Speaker 1: two or three, four or five months, if you're dating,
Speaker 1: you can have like a compil That's true. Okay, So
Speaker 1: you don't like that he posted the photos of you
Speaker 1: without permission. Well I could have gotten over that because
Speaker 1: I could have been like, hey, maybe take those down, right,
Speaker 1: But the caption was what got me. Oh I'm scared
Speaker 1: it was it he'd captioned it. My ex said, no
Speaker 1: one would ever love me, but how do you like
Speaker 1: me now? Oh no, no, ready to move on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys aren't to the love phase yet. It's just like,
Speaker 1: I think that's over emphasizing, Jeff. None of fing is terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: someone should have reported that. I mean, he didn't even
Speaker 1: mention an ex the whole night, and so it just
Speaker 1: kind of I felt so used. Yeah, it feels like
Speaker 1: a revenge day. Yeah, like you you didn't say anything
Speaker 1: to him after you saw that. What am I gonna say, like, hey, crazy,
Speaker 1: don't do that. Good luck over there, buddy. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you do have anything that you would like to say,
Speaker 1: now is a really good opportunity for you, because Paul's
Speaker 1: been on the other line listening this whole time. He
Speaker 1: wants talk. Yeah, he wants to talk to you. Paul.
Speaker 1: You there, Oh I can't come here. Oh hello, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe you got some unpacking to do
Speaker 1: about that ex there. I wanted everyone to know that
Speaker 1: I was over her right and that it's done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a best way to show it. Well, that's my way,
Speaker 1: that's my way of doing things. I want it like
Speaker 1: I wanted. I wanted her to see it. Obviously, the
Speaker 1: captain you think that posting that makes you come off
Speaker 1: like a confident, attractive guy, like you could see how
Speaker 1: maybe Ashley seeing that would be a little bit turned off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you're not over her. Well, I didn't expect her
Speaker 1: to see it, and I I like, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't even care if she saw it, because I want
Speaker 1: I want my actually know that it moved on and
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in her anymore. Okay, So, Paul, sure,
Speaker 1: usually the best way to do that is to just
Speaker 1: actually be over her and not call her out and
Speaker 1: if she wants it, but I am, and that's why.
Speaker 1: That's why I wrote that. Okay. So, so you're saying,
Speaker 1: like if your ex girlfriend were to text you tonight
Speaker 1: and say, hey, I saw that photo with you and
Speaker 1: that girl, you need to drop that floozy. I want
Speaker 1: you right now, let's get back together. Yeah, you're saying
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't do that. I wouldn't get back together
Speaker 1: with her like we might hook up and being totally on. Okay,
Speaker 1: So they can't be honest with you that you said
Speaker 1: you're completely moved on, you're not interested anymore. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm moved, I'm not interested. That's not interested it's just Paul,
Speaker 1: you need to talk to You need to talk to Ashley.
Speaker 1: I feel like you owe her apology because like that
Speaker 1: does feel like you just took her out to prove
Speaker 1: a point to your AX. Yeah, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know what else to say that that actually said that
Speaker 1: I'm over my ax, Like there's like there's proof online
Speaker 1: that I'm over my AX with you're actually why do
Speaker 1: I feel like she's tagged in the photo? She's not
Speaker 1: tagged in the photo. She unfriended me. But but is
Speaker 1: looking better? Is it? No? And I don't understand. They
Speaker 1: just asked you a hypothetical and you said you'd still
Speaker 1: hook up with her. Yeah. Yeah, I'm practicing radical honestly.
Speaker 1: It's the thing I've been trying to do radical. Wow.
Speaker 1: I mean, Astley, where are you going to meet a
Speaker 1: guy that's willing to be completely honest? This is a
Speaker 1: catch and I would love to send you out with
Speaker 1: Paul one more time and we'll pay for it. It
Speaker 1: feels like honest Paul is going to be we're a
Speaker 1: stick content to a relationship And oops, I hooked up
Speaker 1: with a stripper all on, but I know he's gonna
Speaker 1: take a picture and post it on social media. Doesn't
Speaker 1: being ridiculous. I'm being upfront, I mean honest, and I'm
Speaker 1: being rapped over the cult for it. That's true. That's true. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know it is good to be honest. It just
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like you're being honest with yourself about how
Speaker 1: ready you are to move on from your ex. I'm
Speaker 1: ready and I like you, Ashley, and I will never
Speaker 1: lie to you. Oh he's a big statement, Ashley. I
Speaker 1: don't know the last guy who was quote unquote honest
Speaker 1: with me about his ex went back to her and
Speaker 1: you get Let's be real, Ashley, that steak pic was
Speaker 1: really bad. So he does have a lot working against him.
Speaker 1: Are you single, Ashley? My food picks are the absolute worst. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I only know how to do him in black and white. Hey,
Speaker 1: are you moving in on my girl here? Because that
Speaker 1: will be really rude. Are you talking about, Ashley? Are
Speaker 1: your ex girlfriend who broke and Jeffrey in the Morning
Speaker 1: a huge missed opportunity for us on the show. So
Speaker 1: the guy's posting all sorts of stuff on his social
Speaker 1: media and we don't ask him to put up a
Speaker 1: photo of us doing his second date free exposure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and really shows the exit. He's over her because we
Speaker 1: didn't talk about her. Stop. Yeah, look, man, see this
Speaker 1: is why we don't have our blue check mark on TikTok.
Speaker 1: This is not I don't think. Okay, well, I do
Speaker 1: cringe every time I hear a guy being vulnerable and
Speaker 1: honest on this show because you know that Brooks just
Speaker 1: waiting to pounce on saying I told you you shouldn't
Speaker 1: do that. How he was not being honest with himself?
Speaker 1: Yeah at all? Yeah, he misses his exit, can't stop
Speaker 1: thinking about Okay, so he should be a liar. Well,
Speaker 1: I just it's not the way you're gonna get another
Speaker 1: date is by using your date as revenge to the
Speaker 1: person you're just with. Okay, we'll go. You say he
Speaker 1: shouldn't have posted pictures without her permission. I say she
Speaker 1: shouldn't have looked at his pictures without her without his permission.
Speaker 1: We can do this all day social media is you
Speaker 1: have to be friends first, not necessarily. All I'm saying
Speaker 1: is we could argue about this forever. There's no one
Speaker 1: is right in dating. I think you're gonna end up
Speaker 1: single at the end of this conversation. Okay, well, then
Speaker 1: maybe I could appear on a second date up one day,
Speaker 1: but the truth I'm never going to be not at all.
Speaker 1: If you ever want to get a second date up date,
Speaker 1: email the show. We'll call the person who wasn't calling
Speaker 1: you back