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Speaker 1: bug bitten in my case, underwear listening podcast. You can't

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Speaker 1: predict anything presented by First Light, creating proven versatile hunting

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Speaker 1: First Light, go farther, stay longer. All right, everybody, we

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Speaker 1: got a boatload of boatload of camera guys here who

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Speaker 1: filmed I don't know, man, bazillions of episodes of Meat Eater.

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Speaker 1: How how how many years have you guys been on it?

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Speaker 1: Just go around the rumor, but say who you are

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Speaker 1: and how many years you've been on the show, or again,

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Speaker 1: any kind of rough estimate of how many episodes you've done?

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Speaker 1: Rick Smith and I think I started work in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen was the first episode, which was season

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how many total. Was your

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Speaker 1: the first one about night terrors for the first time.

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Speaker 1: That was my first one. Yeah. I had done Apex

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Speaker 1: Predator with Remy Warren, a couple of episodes of that.

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Speaker 1: Let's try out. They're skeptical of I don't know, skeptical,

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Speaker 1: but we have we have to be intellect So he passed.

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Speaker 1: talk about Garrett's night tears. I was sharing the tent

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Speaker 1: Cartel Country. No night tears. That was the thing. What

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Speaker 1: before bed? No, sweet Lauren. Yeah. Uh. My first show

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Speaker 1: Man for a million years, ten years on Mountain Men.

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Speaker 1: regular peer pressure guy. I wanted to bring bloodies this morning,

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Speaker 1: but nobody really was into it. So NK a bloody man,

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Speaker 1: mountain men though, Uh, Rich, Uh, I think I started

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Speaker 1: You lost I kind of lost it. Yeah, I lost

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Speaker 1: a little edge. Uh So I liked you because you

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Speaker 1: enthusiastic about that soup can full of bacon grease here

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Speaker 1: that mac in grease, man, We'd add that to house.

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Speaker 1: It was great. I hadn't There was a lot of

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Speaker 1: And then Land went on your suspenders, did you know?

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Speaker 1: to the woods? That trip? Yeah, wet ass snow, British Columbia. Yeah, bears, bears.

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Speaker 1: in my death. It's so bad. He doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: Dan Vil, Broncos colors, Okay, dirt. I think two thousand

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Speaker 1: sort of directing the conversation. My brother in law are

422
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: just kind of like kicking back, you know, having some beers,

423
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: and I just realized there was a moment when I'm like,

424
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just like listening and enjoying the

425
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: conversation and I'm not the one having to be like, So,

426
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: what was the most exciting part of the hunt today

427
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: for you girls? You know, they were just sort of

428
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: doing that was like, this is very fun. Yeah, it's

429
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 1: a nice moment. My my daughter something switched in her um.

430
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: She's like very now, very impatient to be old enough

431
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: to deer hunting next year, and has like wants her

432
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: own Buyos, wants her own buy no harness, wants her

433
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: own backpack. She's fired up. So that's where my focus

434
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: is gonna be next. So that brought up another milestone. Sorry,

435
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: we're just killing it this weekend. The buy those things,

436
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: I just sort of not even thinking it was like, oh,

437
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: throwing a couple of sets of Buyos into the gearbag,

438
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: and then I offered him up. Oh yeah, we would

439
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: like to carry by those two different times, both in

440
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: the same evening, but we're I'm like driving out. They're

441
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: kind of like already glass the field and like it

442
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: ain't nothing here, let's keep moving. And my girls there

443
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: like between me and Cameron in the canamn, like jabbing

444
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: each other and fighting and just being pains in general,

445
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: pains in the ass. I'm like, look around and find

446
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: some prong horn. That's what we're doing, you know, And

447
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: five seconds doesn't go buying and it's like, oh, there's

448
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: a herd that look, I don't see one. Like they're

449
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: right there. I'm like, I don't see him. She's like,

450
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: seriously right there, Glass. I'm like, oh, yeah, no ship,

451
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: you know. Unfortunately, we try to pull the quick U

452
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: turn and then just get behind the little ridge. But man,

453
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: three weeks in the prong Horn season they take that

454
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: ship anymore. But yeah, then later we're like, we try to.

455
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: We didn't know that they busted, so we put the

456
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: big stock on them. Thirty minutes later, we've cleared the

457
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: place out. That hurts gone and we're just moving down

458
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: the ridge. I've kind of like dropped my edge and

459
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, on the ridge top now it's getting ready

460
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: ahead to the canam again and uh maybels like they're

461
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: still in the field. There's some right there and I

462
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: look over. I'm like, where they're not. It's like, no,

463
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: they're right there. They're bedded. Like what I'm looking looking.

464
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm like where She points Glass. I'm like,

465
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: oh yeah, look at that. It was getting low light

466
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: and I don't know if my eyes are just going

467
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: a little bit. And when those you forget too and

468
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: you're so used to looking at elk were times is

469
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: what I've been hunting the last month. And then you

470
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: go to an animal that's like a sixth of the

471
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: size and then they bed down. I mean it's like

472
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: looking at a mouse out in a alf alfa field,

473
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: you know. But so anyways, you had another milestone and

474
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even have to glass anymore. I

475
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: just can hang out and wait for them to be

476
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: like there they are. Uh, you should introduce them to

477
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: a range find or that. Oh, my kids will spend

478
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: hours range ranging everything everything. It's pretty fun. And my

479
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: daughter is not like a good great glass yet because

480
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: a lot of times I look and I think of

481
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: like the best I can tell you must be looking

482
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: at her knee, or she's got him aimed up in

483
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: the sky. She doesn't really, She just sort of it's fatalistic.

484
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: She just looks through whatever they happen to be aimed at.

485
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: She hasn't figured out that you can kind of point

486
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: them around where you want to be. She's sort of like,

487
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, I'll look there and take my lumps.

488
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: You know. My girl's favorite is after about five minutes

489
00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: of regular glassing, they flip them backwards. Everything gets really

490
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: far away. Oh god, you know what, We're talking a

491
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: lot about how how much a human scroll you can handle?

492
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: This is this this guy wrote in No, that's a

493
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: great story. He says, there was a podcast episode a

494
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: while back where y'all were questioning how much weight the

495
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: human scroll. He calls it a scroll I like that

496
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: could take before tearing home. He says, I will tell

497
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: you in confidence. Does that mean I shouldn't tell No?

498
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: I think he's The way I'm reading that is he's

499
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: saying that I'm telling you this confidently, like this story,

500
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: this happened if I said to you, but that's not

501
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna say his name, so I

502
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: don't portray his trust. But if I said to you

503
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: or you know what I you just think he's using

504
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: it that way. But is this like a rope testing

505
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: where they test like the breaking strength like roper. We

506
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: had a guy send this. He had this scientific analysis

507
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: and even a video, like an engineering video of what

508
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: happens to your scroll if it's pulled tent sile strength

509
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: not Garrett. Oh, here's a joke for you. Do you

510
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: hear about Do you hear about the guy? Do you

511
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: hear about the guy that put glitter all over scrolled him. Yeah,

512
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: it's pretty nuts. So he goes on to say, I

513
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: will tell you. So he goes on to say, I

514
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: will tell you in confidence that when my dad was younger,

515
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: he worked as a framer dirts tracking and fell off

516
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: a scaffold. It was caught on a picket fence by

517
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 1: his testies. When he came to he was hanging upside

518
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: down like the squirrels that I often see on Steve's

519
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: Instagram page. Or that raccoon right was raccoons. He was

520
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: able to get them surgically reattached and went on to

521
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: have four of the most hunting is fishing his son's.

522
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: He told me he had almost completely forgotten about it

523
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: until he got a vast sectomy and cried out loud

524
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: when they snipped the scar. Tissue are supposed to be

525
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: sedated when you have a best sector. Did I ever

526
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: tell you my vast activy story? Nod you curl your hair,

527
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: go umbe away. We're talking. We're talking on I can

528
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: vouch for that. Your wide away. The numbing too. Sometimes

529
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: it didn't work for me. I felt a lot of it.

530
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell it real quick, dark, I gotta say this too,

531
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: because Dark Colburn said that he he said it felt

532
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: like someone was like start trying to start a lawnmower,

533
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: like a pull start. He didn't tell me that confidence.

534
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: One more thing. Now we're gonna get Okay, I tell

535
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: this quick story about my tell cram my quick vast

536
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: acty story. So I've all I've long suffered from a

537
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: thing in my my left side of my scroll, where

538
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: I have a thing called a very castell. It's like

539
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: this little nerve ball humid days man, So I never

540
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: wore I don't wear boxers, so that's always bugged me.

541
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: Now I go down to get my vast actomy and

542
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: you're laying there and you're just shooting the breeze and

543
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: they numb me up and I don't even know he

544
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: started yet. And he's got a side done. Huh okay,

545
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying, so what's going on? Already did one side?

546
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: What are you guys talking about? Like Polygy got it? Yeah?

547
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: And my Dennis hunts too, So he does a side

548
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm not work three or four minutes

549
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: and he's already done, and I can't even tell that

550
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: he's gotten going yet. And we're talking, talking talking and priests.

551
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: Do I realize a long time has gone by and

552
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: he's still said so if he got one half done

553
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: that fast, why have we been talking for twenty five minutes?

554
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: And I lift my head up and look, it's just

555
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 1: blood everywhere. I said, nerves, it's blood vessels, that very

556
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: that that little growth thing in my sack. He was

557
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: having a hard time digging the pipe he's trying to find.

558
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: He's having a hard time digging it out of that

559
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: blood vessel sack. Oh, bleeding all over the place at

560
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: one point, make here, make a quick video of this.

561
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: You make a quick video, like literally, I want to

562
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: act out. We'll put it on Instagram. What are you

563
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: wearing like? Uh, you're wearing like a medical thing? Right? Yeah,

564
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: what are you wearing like? Are you talking about like

565
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: a toilet seat cover over your area? Right? You just

566
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: make it from the waist down. If I remember, the

567
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: guy has like the helper dude who I kept saying yes, sir, no, sir.

568
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: So he thought I'll remember he thought I was in

569
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: the military. He's like, that's not part of the story.

570
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: So I look up, okay, and there's just blood everywhere,

571
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: and he's getting frustrated, and at one point he goes

572
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: like this, I'm gonna demonstrate what he does. So he's

573
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: down there having surgery on might scrolled him and he

574
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: goes like this. He's standing over me. My computer is

575
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: my sack, and he does this. This is not what

576
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: you want to see someone do. He goes it, goes

577
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: back to work. I was the conversation after he I

578
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: don't know, I've never done a vast sector me. I

579
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: don't know how he will is uh unsure that he'd

580
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: got the right hose. What would happen if you got

581
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: the wrong hose? Well, either way. Afterward, this is the

582
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: bad part after me. Afterward, you gotta keep supplying specimens.

583
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: See feels effective. But nowadays you don't need to go

584
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: down there and do it, you know, do the whole

585
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: thing in the bathroom there. Maybe some people still do that.

586
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: When you're seeing a lot of your own blood, like

587
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: you're used to seeing blood, hands are like, yeah, I

588
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: was gonna ask if you had some kind of your

589
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: own Like you're not feeling anything, but you're seeing stuff

590
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: that should be inside of a body, and you're was it.

591
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't like. I don't mind seeing

592
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: my own bloods. But I don't like people. I don't

593
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: like any kind of needles and hoses and stuff getting

594
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: installed in me. I was told someone I want sold

595
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: a doctor. I could cut your arm off and eat

596
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: it and it wouldn't bother me. But you putting in

597
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: my arm is really upsetting to me. Did that doctor

598
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: take it? As you know? I was just trying to

599
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: explain how much I don't like. But I got over that.

600
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: Eventually got over. Oh one last thing. Never get to

601
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: what we're here to talk about. I we've gotten a

602
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: lot of letters from biblical scholars. I don't even know

603
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: how to explain this. Someone mentioned something about a good Samaritan, okay,

604
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: and I had said, my understanding in the Good Book

605
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: is that Samaritans were um bad people. Okay. So the

606
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: fact that the fact that a Samaritan, when you say

607
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: to someone, oh, you're a good Samaritan, you're basically saying

608
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: so surprising that a person as bad as you must

609
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: be as a Samaritan, did that. It's not like, if

610
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: you're a good Samaritan, be like you're an unlike I

611
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: had always been told, you're an unlikely candidate to do

612
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: a good deed. That's why it's noteworthy, because people that

613
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: you'd expect to do a good deed, I don't know

614
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: what the hell. That priest comes by, he does do anything.

615
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: That guy comes by, they won't do anything. And then,

616
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: of all people, a Samaritan, right, it would be like

617
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: saying the good bad person. Well, we got letters from

618
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: Biblical scholars. I don't know if I want to get

619
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: into it, but I'm gonna do it. Yeah, biblicals this

620
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: gets rich. It's complicated. I'm never gonna say a good

621
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: Samaritan ever. Again. I don't say it, but anytime someone

622
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: does say, I'm just gonna shut up. Biblical Samaritans were

623
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: people of mixed Jewish descendency. Following the split of Israel

624
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: in the Old Testament, Israel aka the Northern Kingdom was

625
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: taken into captivity by the Assyrians. While they're bloodlines mixed

626
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: between Assyrians and Jews, the people of Judah a ka

627
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: the Southern Kingdom, were taken captive by the Babylonians. Following

628
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: their subsequent return to Jerusalem, they declared their Jewish purity

629
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: by bloodline and lineage. Many of the Northern Kingdom Jews

630
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: living north of Jerusalem in an area known as Samaria

631
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Speaker 1: could no longer do this. They now had mixed ancestry

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Speaker 1: between themselves as Jews and Assyrians, who took them over.

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Speaker 1: These partial Jews became known as Samaritans and were utterly

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Speaker 1: despised razed by the pure bloods. No self respecting Jew

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Speaker 1: of the time would deign to socialize with, visit with,

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Speaker 1: or even help an ailing Samaritan, as they were considered

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Speaker 1: to be all but dogs. This is someone else writing

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Speaker 1: in I'll point out context is important on this story.

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Speaker 1: This Chris Gil writing in No, this is a stranger

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Speaker 1: writing in who I will not divulge their uh you

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Speaker 1: take it up with them, But I'm not gonna tell

642
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Speaker 1: you who they are. I'm just this is someone explaining

643
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: this stuff. They're all but dogs and doing someone make

644
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Speaker 1: them ceremonial and ceremonially unclean. That said, the priests and

645
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Speaker 1: Levite who first passed the injured man in the parable

646
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Speaker 1: of the good Samaritan would not even touch their own countrymen,

647
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Speaker 1: also out of fear of being made unclean, so self loathing.

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Speaker 1: While the people of Samaria were of mixed descent and

649
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Speaker 1: also may have practiced some pagan forms of worship. There

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Speaker 1: is nothing really in scripture to indicate that they were

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Speaker 1: bad people, as I me Steve indicated. While there may

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Speaker 1: be other reputable documentation available outside of the Bible to

653
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Speaker 1: support this, the fact in and of itself has nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with the idea of being a good Samaritan.

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Speaker 1: The point was a man considered by the culture to

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Speaker 1: be less than human, crossed geopolitical lines to help a

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Speaker 1: man who was in need and being despised by his

658
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Speaker 1: own countrymen. He did something that none of the three

659
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Speaker 1: Jews the injured man included would have done for him.

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Speaker 1: Jesus point in the story all people are our neighbors,

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Speaker 1: whether they're socially acceptable or not, and whether they're covered

662
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Speaker 1: in human waste or not. That's a referral to the

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Speaker 1: episode we did about the Great House Rescue. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: your time. Another guy that wrote and explained that a

665
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Speaker 1: that a scholar was trying to get Jesus in a

666
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Speaker 1: tight spot when he told the parable and he said, Okay,

667
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Speaker 1: who are our neighbors? And you wanted him to try

668
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Speaker 1: to draw some hard lines about who the Jews should

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Speaker 1: be friendly with, and and as he liked to do,

670
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Speaker 1: he answered with the story Jesus, Jesus. That's when he

671
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Speaker 1: told the parable. Someone's like, so, who are neighbors? Mr?

672
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Speaker 1: Smart guy, And he said, well, let's talk about that

673
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Speaker 1: for a man, and he told the story of the

674
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Speaker 1: good Samaritan being like, that's your neighbor at least suspecting one. Yeah.

675
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Speaker 1: Lesson of tolerance had the thought I feel like and

676
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Speaker 1: the thought, all right, let's get into it. So right now,

677
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: is it you that right now? Yeah? Like season eleven

678
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: is where episode one is out. I've explained a thing

679
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: about show business before where we license our show out.

680
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: But right now you can go watch, Um, you can

681
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: watch for free. I'll point out you can go to

682
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: the meater dot com and watch for free. That's the

683
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: first place to go see the new episodes that make

684
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Speaker 1: up are season eleven. It's available now. We're gonna put

685
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Speaker 1: up one a week and one is available right now.

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Speaker 1: Episode one uh Hunting Sickle Blacktail Deer in Southeast Alaska

687
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Speaker 1: with Evan Hayford, who has been on the show a

688
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: couple of times from Black Rifle Coffee Company. Was I've

689
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Speaker 1: been on I think at least two of those hunts,

690
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: maybe three. They've been extremely difficult. Did you guys, crack

691
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: the puzzle all this time, crack the code. We got

692
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: a deer. But no, I'm no, I'm no. I know

693
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Speaker 1: less about it now than really, well, you're not in

694
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Speaker 1: the alpine. I know less about hunting the rainforest now

695
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Speaker 1: than I ever did. You did have a breakthrough with rattling, though,

696
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Speaker 1: Oh can you bleep that? Sorry? Just make over what

697
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: he said? Does that spoiler? No, it's not a spoiler.

698
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: Oh no, we show it. What am I saying? Yeah?

699
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Speaker 1: It's I mean there was a question of if rattling

700
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Speaker 1: would bring in I'll just come out and saying yeah,

701
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Speaker 1: someone will correct me. I'm sure pioneered. I believe that

702
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: people will write in and being like you have to

703
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: do right. I believe I'm the first person to ever

704
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Speaker 1: rattle in a stick of blacktail deer. There. I just

705
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: said it. Oh, I witnessed it. I don't know if

706
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: you're the first, but he did it. I am first.

707
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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't it work though, because as they just I

708
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Speaker 1: don't know, because they're just goofy, little, shy little they

709
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Speaker 1: don't come in just like they're not. They don't socialize,

710
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: they're just shy. All you hear about the people that

711
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: have the epic hunts is like, oh, we just got

712
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: out of the truck and blew on the call and

713
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: three of them came running. I don't mean, okay, they

714
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Speaker 1: come to call. I don't know why not. I don't

715
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Speaker 1: know why. In my head, not in Yanni's in my head.

716
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: I just don't think of them as I don't think

717
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: of the boxes like social in that way and all

718
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: fired up in that they're like smashing up another. But

719
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Speaker 1: when you're calling them, you're usually calling him using distress

720
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: calls and fawn bleats and dough noises, and you're like

721
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: you're generating some excitement from does that come in and

722
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: carry bucks with him? I just don't think of bucks

723
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Speaker 1: running out of the brush because there's a ratlin noise. Yeah,

724
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: they've got little teen little antlers. It's just like but

725
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Speaker 1: obviously they do get out. I don't know, I don't

726
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: know why I thought that, but it works. Apparently. Yanni

727
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: lays in better Night. I think, don't know how good rattling. Well,

728
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Speaker 1: that's the thing. It might be the misconception, and it

729
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Speaker 1: might be the thing that is going to like turn

730
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Speaker 1: a lot of would be successes into real successes. Might

731
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Speaker 1: be a fluke. I mean he he was running. He

732
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Speaker 1: was coming in like responding to it. He was coming. Yeah,

733
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Speaker 1: there you go. He was curious. Ninth hour two or

734
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Speaker 1: ten or twelfth whatever they say. Love's coming hard. Really

735
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Speaker 1: easy place to work, that miserable, especially with electronics. Okay,

736
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Speaker 1: you guys are tasked with sharing your favorite story ever

737
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Speaker 1: from working on the show. It's my understanding favorite story.

738
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Speaker 1: By that, I mean like something that we're like, uh,

739
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Speaker 1: like something I said that really stuck with you changed

740
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: changed course. What was the quote you said earlier about

741
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: chastity of intelligence or something like that? Was theticism is

742
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: the chastity of the intellect? There you go. There's a

743
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: lot of quotes like that. I didn't call you guys

744
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: something once that I had you later, I told you

745
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: never to talk about it because it could give me

746
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: a lot of trouble. Bitch bitches, bitches a little bitches.

747
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah that. But what's great about that is that just

748
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: recently came about. We're working on the shows for years.

749
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 1: That was like, yeah, it was like a twenty nineteen

750
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: or twenty official. The next day, I know, I called Annie,

751
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: I texted I was like, any I don't know if

752
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: you're an HR person. I need to talk to you.

753
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: But well, what's great is we've made it through years

754
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: of doing the show and then the moniker comes out.

755
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: It's like I can see right off the bat being

756
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: like you know what you're you know, well, there's been something,

757
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: there's iterations of, like the crew has changed over the

758
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: course of time that I think we've all been working

759
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: on it. Yanni was on it for like most of

760
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: I think still you're probably on it longer than anybody.

761
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Speaker 1: Never never became a bit. I want to know. I'm

762
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna point this question at you. Is it

763
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: bitch woke? Now? Oh? You don't say no, you don't.

764
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Speaker 1: It's kind of come back around it like a few

765
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: years ago fashion. I think they're claiming people are taking

766
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: it back, like bitch is fine, Oh it is fine again.

767
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: I think so, I think that someone's a sensibility call me.

768
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: If it's sensibilities that someone just wants to see you bleed,

769
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: they're going to get mad about it. Yeah, but like,

770
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: what what use of the word bitch, like bitch please,

771
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: or like calling someone a bit? That's what I think

772
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: is that anymore people don't really call females. But we

773
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: have a funny story about this from the other day

774
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: we do. We're doing our cookbook photo shoot and two

775
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: women that we were with are driving too fast down

776
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: this road and an old man comes out and yells

777
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: at him. And then they then spent the next thirty

778
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: minutes trying to figure out did he say slow down

779
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: a bit, as one of them thought, or did he

780
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: say slow down a little bit? Very different said that said,

781
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: what answer your question? I guess I can't keep up.

782
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: I don't I have no idea, but I just I

783
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: find it interesting that the the interpretation of a word,

784
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: or like how someone perceives it when called it or

785
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: when they hear it, just changes with like the weather.

786
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: It's just it's silly to me. But I said, now

787
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: you're just weak, the bitchiest of bitches. I'm guessing you

788
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: didn't want to hike anymore. It was probably something practical

789
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: and sable. The reason the whole you know that we're there. Wait,

790
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: you want to focus on something in important? Yeah, you

791
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: don't want to go on a midnight death march back

792
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 1: to camp. I'll set up. But saying I view the relationship,

793
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: I view that there's there's a push and pull. Right, Um,

794
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: you guys want your desire to film things sometimes prevents

795
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: there being anything to film. Yes, you're not. You're not

796
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: incorrect on that, and so I'm like, do it my

797
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: way and I'll show you something cool to film. But

798
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: that's an infliction that I think we have on everything

799
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: that we work on. That's something that I at least

800
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm always like, oh, we gotta do it this way.

801
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: And then it's like, my wife's a director too, and

802
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 1: we get into a healthy conversation. It's about things. Yeah,

803
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: that's why your wife, even though she's never shot a

804
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: television show, she or a hunting show, she's still probably

805
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah, those fucking cameras. No. She if

806
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: I like tell a story and it's like, oh this

807
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: is crazy, she like will usually side not with me

808
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: because she knows that. It's like because if you're not

809
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: getting the story, if you're only getting the images, and

810
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: it's like you don't have this. This is something that

811
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: any documentary film is going to run into the problem

812
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: of filming. It is preventing the thing you're doing. Hunting

813
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: just is more so you add all these people to

814
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: the woods, you're trying to be stealthy. It's like incompatible.

815
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: But I've been talking about this a lot lately, like

816
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: that Meat Eater is actually the like the only true

817
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: Verte show that I work on now. Verte is like

818
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: you as a camera person, are capturing events as they

819
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: are unfolding in front of you. It's like just very

820
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: honest on the fly on the wall. Yeah, it's like

821
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: you're just in French term that was related to just

822
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: capturing truth. Yeah, but I think we keep that in

823
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: mind to not prevent the success. Very like that's why

824
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: it's fun to work on this show because it's like

825
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 1: nobody does that, and it's always like, oh, we gotta

826
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: set up and we're going to this place and we're

827
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: gonna light it and we're gonna do this, and it's

828
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: just like okay. But there's a thing like people want

829
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: to see Steve's face, but we're constantly hiking behind him.

830
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: We see his ass the whole time, and as much

831
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: as you the authenticity of the moment is to see

832
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: him from behind, because how would a camera guy be

833
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: out in front of him needs to see your face.

834
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: It's just like it's what people, It's just one of

835
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: those things. And so we have to find those moments

836
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: where Steve lets us run ahead. Dude, I've been yelled

837
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: at for that. And so you can decide to air

838
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: on the side of getting less coverage and not having

839
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: Steve yelled at you, or pick pick your moment. But

840
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: sometimes you pick your moment and it's not the moment.

841
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: But every year we get emails from guy being like,

842
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: you don't have that, you don't have you don't have this,

843
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like, guys, the main editor there's edited over

844
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: a hundred episodes of the show, and yeah, if you

845
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: guys don't get the coverage from the front, you will

846
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: get yelled at him. Yeah to two. And and when

847
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: an editor is going through our footage often I'm sure

848
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: they're like, what the funk were these guys are doing

849
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: out there, because it just seems like they didn't do

850
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: this and they didn't do that, you know, like all

851
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: the basic things that you do and you know, documentary film,

852
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: but we're just under a different constraint, even just just

853
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: the walking, Like it's easy to look at something and

854
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: be like that doesn't look that hard or whatever, Like

855
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: most of Alaska just you the walking and filming at

856
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: the same time. It's just like an incompatible situation. You know,

857
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: it's all shaky and you're like, yeah, you got camp

858
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: on your back, you camp on your back, you're hunting.

859
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't come out in conversation, but I respect and

860
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: understand what you guys need to do, and I uh,

861
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: I could turn it right around and like give your

862
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: side of the story, you know, and I honestly view

863
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:11,959
Speaker 1: it as I honestly view it as a UM team.

864
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: Yeah that there's that there's a push and pull going on.

865
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: You know, if I was always if I always won

866
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: all that stuff, it would be to the detriment. Like likewise,

867
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: if the reason the show is good is because we

868
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: can't enforce our will on the production, because then it

869
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: just be like like, yeah, there's shows out there, like

870
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: there a lot of a lot of fakery, like authenticity.

871
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 1: People use that word all the time. We want authentic

872
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: media or we want to like and they're so full

873
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: of ship. They don't want they don't want that. They

874
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 1: just want to, uh write a script like block it out,

875
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: like shoot this shoot that television production is based on. UM.

876
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: You have a specific amount of money, specific time in

877
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: the field, and so you guarantee what's going to happen,

878
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: and the fact that we're hunting, there's no guarantee of anything.

879
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 1: That's why all these hunts end with you know, quote

880
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: unquote failure or the eleventh hour or the eleventh hour

881
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: because you're actually doing it. But the filmmaker part of

882
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: me is like, I gotta try to control as much

883
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: as I can to make sure we have these the

884
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: start of a scene or the end of a scene

885
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: or like but you know, and Yanni was good, Yeah,

886
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: but like a little a little a little SoundBite that

887
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 1: closes a moment, you know, like put a button on that. Yeah,

888
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 1: So there's like some you're doing TV all the while

889
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: you're just at the whim of chaos. Yeah. Yeah, it's

890
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: unlike most other productions, like the you guys already said,

891
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: you know, you just you don't have all those components

892
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: that you would normally have on every other show that

893
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: we've worked on. You have fly on the wall, and

894
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: then you've got to figure out how to make sure

895
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: you're camera batteries don't run out and your tapes don't

896
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: run out, media doesn't run out. I guess tapes is

897
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: a little aniquated at this point, but ah, same thing.

898
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: So it's different in that respect. In that regard, it's

899
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: different than every other hunting show or even television production

900
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: show worked on. Well, there's always you know, there's like

901
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: minutes a day. Wow, I don't know. I want to

902
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: talk about other shows. There's other shows out there that

903
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: are like pretty tough. But I'm always like, how hard

904
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: are they really? Are they that? Are they that hard?

905
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: Because like, we're doing some pretty hard stuff. There's some

906
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: hard stuff that people do, but meter's pretty You're you're

907
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: juggling a lot. You're juggling a lot. That sounds like

908
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: you guys should get paid more. Oh buddy, well inflation

909
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: is up man. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what.

910
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: Just like those contractors out there, everybody's in demand. But

911
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: what do you guys? Explain the economics? Like, not the

912
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: economics with exact numbers, but explain how one lives as

913
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: a freelance camera operator. Well the coin your term. We're

914
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: all free trappers in this room. I think there's like, no,

915
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: there's no staff like film or just film is right

916
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: for me? Neater staff south staff Yeah, yeah, but we

917
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: know we don't have any we don't have any staff,

918
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: just camera people. But in a lot of ways, being

919
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: a camera operator or director of photography, is your an

920
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: independent contractor your work for higher You make a day rate,

921
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: and the day rates pretty standard yep. In terms of

922
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: like nonfiction TV, there's like kind of like a there's

923
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: like a threshold of low to high and it kind

924
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: of operates within like a window of that and uh,

925
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 1: you something, you can bring your own tools and rent

926
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: your tools to the production camera or other equipment to

927
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: kind of like bump your day rate. Yeah, you're in

928
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 1: that biz right to have my own gear. Yeah, depending

929
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: depending on the production, which is nice because then you

930
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: can work for less because your people are happier to

931
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: pay for equipment than they are labor. Dude, people don't

932
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: like paying. I'm always like, why are we paying like

933
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: a robot man? Give me yeah, But they're like they're like,

934
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: oh no, they like they like negoti you're rate. But

935
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: then you're like and I'm gonna bring some gear and

936
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, yeah, whatever it is. I don't know

937
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: if it's like a part of capitalism or they're like, yeah,

938
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: they want to argue about your value more than the

939
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: value of having your camera there. Yeah, we'll find another

940
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: guy and just will rent your No, I mean it's

941
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: it is a funny. It's a funny economy in the

942
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 1: sense that you know, the the UK is the biggest

943
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: probably nonfiction industry. Yeah, like because until Attenborough dies, and

944
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna dry up Attenburgh anymore. To be

945
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: like who can do his accents? Some would be like, oh,

946
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: look a whale state stay funded. Phil, you can't do it. Yea,

947
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: my voice isn't I'm not doing it. Yeah, what's even

948
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: sound like? Like he's got like he's like very formal,

949
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: he's like he has a very still like Stilton, and

950
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: he's developed the minimalist style over the years. Now he'll

951
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: just come in and be like Wales I think just

952
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: gets war out. Yeah, he likes a little punchy little things.

953
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: You know that that whole busical when he died. But

954
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: Brits economies funded. But you know they have socialized system

955
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: where they didn't probably have you know, six six figure

956
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: uh student loans or whatnot. So like the the US,

957
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: like we don't have healthcare. All these things add up,

958
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: so our rates are generally, like a US camera man's

959
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: rates are higher than because you're talking about Yeah it's freelancers.

960
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: We don't have benefits. Yeah, we have to pay retirement. Yeah,

961
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: like all that stuff. When people are like, what are

962
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: you doing for what do the Brits have? They just

963
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: have They're not being in healthcare. They get paid a

964
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 1: lower day rate. We get paid on the government pays

965
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: them for everything else they have in Canada to Costana

966
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: has healthcare. So us camera people, we got that edge

967
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: to us man, Yeah, man, you gotta really scrap, you

968
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: really take the cloths off and go ahut. That's what

969
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: I was telling. Uh. I was arguing with Jay Sevens

970
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: about Canada, and I was saying, you know, you guys

971
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: don't have that What I was gonna say, you guys

972
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: don't have that edge. You know, they're just comfortable. The

973
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: fact that the show he finished my sentence for me,

974
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: he finished my setens for I said, you guys don't

975
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: have that mindless ferocity. No. The fact that the show

976
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: happened during the pandemic, like we were in production. Dude,

977
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for Mediator, I'd been like, yeah, you

978
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: had to go on unemployment during that because I had

979
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: no No, I mean, dude, our industry shut down, everybody did.

980
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: But the fact that we had that season production when

981
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: everybody else was Oh dude, we were working. Yeah, we

982
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: were working. I loved it. It was great man. We

983
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: were up in Alaska cabin in Pennsylvania. Yeah, that was

984
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: where we all got to see. We worked all through

985
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: the pandemic and um and uh. I still can't get

986
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: the governor of Florida to come on the podcast. You're

987
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: trying to get into Santis on here. Yeah, he'd love

988
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: it if you heard that. Why wouldn't Why did we busted?

989
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: Asked through the pandemic? You think keep doing here right now?

990
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: Gave each other COVID. It sounds like he loves He

991
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: won't come out. I don't know. He was erman. I

992
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: want to talk to Hi about the Everglades. Oh yeah,

993
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: he's passed some they've passed some good conation. I gotta

994
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: get on that again. Please come on, Ron. Yeah well hell,

995
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: I mean they were pretty busy the last month on that.

996
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, No, I'd probably less likely to happen now,

997
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: But I want to talk about the Everglades and sort

998
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: of like the politics of the Everglades in Florida. But

999
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: the antagonistic relationship that the crew and Steve have to

1000
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: have it is what makes the show good. If if

1001
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: if Steve gave us everything we requested, the show would

1002
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: be bad. It wouldn't be some actual ones like I

1003
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: don't know, I got an early one that actually is

1004
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: beneficial for us, and you, Steve, that makes me look good.

1005
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: It's in Mexico on that trip you're talking the first one.

1006
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: I remember, I was, I was very new to me eater,

1007
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,479
Speaker 1: but understood if you didn't film and it didn't happen.

1008
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: And I was on the long lens at that point.

1009
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: Then we're Cou's deer hunting, and remember you were talking

1010
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: about I think Rick and Chris were doing the cross

1011
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: coverage eyes on long lens and you were talking about

1012
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: a deer. So I was getting into position to try

1013
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: to shoot video of the deer and you snapped at me. Sure, yeah,

1014
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: but I was being because I grew up hunting, so

1015
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: I knew, like, you know, I don't want to spook

1016
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: this thing that is the subject matter. And so after

1017
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,439
Speaker 1: after you know, you kind of snapped at me, I said,

1018
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: you know, if I don't film it, it doesn't make sense,

1019
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: and like this this scene won't make it, and you

1020
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: you like you greet and you're like, okay, just be

1021
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, just be careful, be quiet. Ye got in

1022
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: a fight recently, and I think you said, he snapped back,

1023
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: like we've done this before. Steve said, this is my

1024
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: fiftie episode. Bro. Yeah, oh dude, I did not say

1025
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: that you the moose was. I was a little frustrated. Yeah,

1026
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: I was. I was more responding to being offended that

1027
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: you didn't think I had the savviness not to spook

1028
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: the moose and you were this Alaska moose just happened.

1029
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: Alaska moose. We got, We like had a bowl. We

1030
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: took his temperature. He looked interested. Yeah, and he wasn't.

1031
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: But for a minute he looked interested, and I just

1032
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: wanted I wanted us in case he came. Yeah, I

1033
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: wanted lockdown and I was not in lockdown mode yet.

1034
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: I was like a couple of seconds for this is

1035
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: the other thing related to that. We film everybody that's

1036
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: on camera settle into position, get quiet. Oh thank you. Yeah,

1037
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: we were. We have a packs on people decided to

1038
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: sit down, be quiet. When we go to do the

1039
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: same thing they just did thirty seconds before we did,

1040
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: we get yelled at it and then we have to

1041
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: sit down otherwise. Goddamn it. Yeah, you guys just rustled,

1042
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: took off your jacket all this ship. Dude, I've gotten

1043
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: so good at that, and that's what I'm settled. Yeah,

1044
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: they don't want over the ridge. I want to. I

1045
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: want to slip over the ridge and just settle. Yeah,

1046
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: so I slip over. I take my backpack off, put

1047
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: on some layers whatever, get ready to snacks out. And

1048
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: also I hear noise behind me and it makes me

1049
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: want to kill people. And also it's like russelling. It's

1050
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: like then there are times where it's like Okay, you

1051
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: get into position and you settle, and it's like okay,

1052
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: we're glassing. But then you're like really hungry and you're like,

1053
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:05,919
Speaker 1: I know, I got some dry mangoes in my bag,

1054
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: but they're in like the loudest cella yea. I try

1055
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: to get silent at it, but it's tough. Yeah. Yeah,

1056
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: But that was the situation on Moose. I think we

1057
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: had filmed you guys seeing it, and then I was

1058
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: getting in a position to cross shoes and then I

1059
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: was I was locked in. But yeah, that was the fight.

1060
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: That was all the equipment is loud, all of it,

1061
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: everything everything we have. You can't just get the shot

1062
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: by being silent. You gotta you gotta make noise, you

1063
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: gotta move around. There's also like physics involved in our job,

1064
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's physics, it's geometry, thanks

1065
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: rick Um. It's like, we have to be in a

1066
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: position where we can see things that are happening and

1067
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: see people's faces and then but we also need to

1068
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: be in like a correlated position with the other camera

1069
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: person so that when you're in the when you're editing it,

1070
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: everything cuts together. Well, because if you don't observe this

1071
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: thing called eighty degree rule, you when you cut two

1072
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: images together, it looks like the people are looking different directions.

1073
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: It doesn't look like they're talking to each other on camera.

1074
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: It's like, well, I think the way we explain it

1075
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: was the line where I had you punch one direction

1076
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: and then I flipped across the line and had you

1077
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: punch again, and your punches are going different directions, screen directions.

1078
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: Remember that in Turkey, Uh, not in Turkey, but filming

1079
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: Turkey in South Carolina. And this was part of the

1080
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: argument about why you guys move around so much. Yeah, well,

1081
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: and it's especially true when the talent comes on and

1082
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: has no idea what blocking is or as ever, because

1083
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: you guys dance around constantly, you're constantly moving around looking

1084
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: at things, shifting and then a guy switched places and

1085
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: we have to switch places. So it's just a constant thing.

1086
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 1: We're looking at each other's eyes. What are you on?

1087
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: What are you on? They moved, Oh my god, we

1088
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: have to move to you're shooting across the line or

1089
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: something not. And the editors sometimes will say, oh, don't

1090
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: worry about that, and then yeah, it's usually and I

1091
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: it's like the direction that the character on the screen

1092
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: is looking, and so we're just we're just aware of

1093
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: that in a way that it's called vector line, right,

1094
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: it's a three line. Can you just explain that for

1095
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: like a viewer watching, it's like you're watching Steve face

1096
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: to the right of the screen and looked to the

1097
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: right at some distant critter he's just like caught sight of.

1098
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: And then something else happens and then you need to

1099
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: avoid that the next shot is suddenly that you are

1100
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: in a different place as a camera guy in relation

1101
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: to Steve, and Steve is now facing to the left

1102
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: of the screen. Because then as a viewer, you have

1103
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: no idea what's going on. I mean, just after like

1104
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: hundreds of years of theater and television and film, our

1105
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: brains are kind of subconsciously trained to to watch movies

1106
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: and in a certain way. And when that one eighty

1107
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: line or like what you gets talking about is broken,

1108
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: like what Crimson cameraman is all of a sudden behind

1109
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: Steve when he was in front you're it kind of

1110
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: messes with how your brain is like visualizing like the

1111
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 1: geometry of the scene, and then it's subconsciously kind of

1112
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: throws you off. The editor can can flip an image,

1113
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: but people don't. It looks weird. Your face looks all weird. Yeah,

1114
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't like a weird mirror. So but it happens

1115
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: that that's the most important in conversation because if it's

1116
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: just you doing action on your own, Steve cooking something,

1117
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: you can always go to that close up shot, go

1118
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: right back to him, and if it's a different it

1119
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: might be somewhat jarring, but as long as you pop

1120
01:06:53,560 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: to a different shot, it's not as jarring. Here's one

1121
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: thing I like you guys to explain that I've been

1122
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: trying to prod at recently, and I don't get it

1123
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: we'll film all manners stuff all the time where there's

1124
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: no control over what's going on. Okay, just zero control.

1125
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do about light, there's nothing to

1126
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: do about rain, there's nothing to do about where an

1127
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: animal comes from, when it comes, who says, what, who

1128
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: does what, someone misses, hits whatever. I know where you're going.

1129
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, something will happen, and you

1130
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: guys act like you guys act like there's a thousand

1131
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: variables that you now need to control. Why is this scenes?

1132
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: It's mostly the meal scenes. I feel like we're like,

1133
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about something that we kind of know

1134
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about. Yeah, if you're just setting up

1135
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: like a dialogue beat and we're so like, okay, we

1136
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: gotta explain what's going on. So and then all of

1137
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: a sudden, where was all this for the rest of

1138
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: the undered hours of stuff you guys filmed. Because there's

1139
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: a thing I think it's like we can work in

1140
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: those environments where there is no control and you kind

1141
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: of like our our brains kind of just be like, Okay,

1142
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: don't worry about the fact that, like the light is

1143
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: terrible right now, because there's no, you cannot have control.

1144
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: But as soon as you let like a little crack

1145
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: of control can come in, it's just like we'll just

1146
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: grab at it and then we'll just start talking food,

1147
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: food and green light. Nobody wants to eat that food. So, yeah,

1148
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: certain foods on a headlamp, like doesn't look great. It

1149
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: just doesn't look appetizing. You know, there's these conventions of

1150
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: how people have gotten used to looking at food and

1151
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: if it looks bad, it's gonna taste bad. Nobody can

1152
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: taste the food. If it looks good, it's gonna taste good.

1153
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: It's just like it's a visual medium. Nobody can smell

1154
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: the smells or whatever. So if it all has like

1155
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: a greenish tint to it, like under some fluorescent light,

1156
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: maybe the experiences that's the actual experience of where you

1157
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: guys are eating. That doesn't work for TV. Let's say

1158
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 1: it's too Yeah to that point, and so this is

1159
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: going to be a stretch because I'm spit balling. But

1160
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:15,759
Speaker 1: as a hunter, you go out preseason, you go scout,

1161
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: you take your time, you do you know, you do

1162
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,560
Speaker 1: everything you kind of can pre pre actual hunt. You

1163
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: go site in your rifle. You know, maybe at a

1164
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 1: shooting range with a bench and a target in place,

1165
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: so you're putting all this time into that that part

1166
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 1: of the hunt. And then when you're out in the

1167
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: field and you know there's there's a game coming over

1168
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: the ridge and you're in a weird spot to shoot,

1169
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: but you still like that's that's happening real time. There's

1170
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: no arguing with it. Yeah, you just have to you

1171
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: have to do what you can do. And that's kind

1172
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: of the same. If we do have the chance to

1173
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: like make something look good, to tell the story better,

1174
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna put in that effort, whereas those

1175
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: other times we just you can't. You kind of just

1176
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: wallow the pill. Jared Andrew Cannis, who's a producer over

1177
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: at zero point zero, he told me early on in

1178
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 1: my producer career that there's only two scenes that you

1179
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 1: can really control. When you go out and do make

1180
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: a meat eater, and that's the intro of the show,

1181
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,759
Speaker 1: and then the meal scene, which is usually our outro,

1182
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 1: and everything in the middle you're just gonna have to,

1183
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: you know, roll the dice and spray and pray and

1184
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: get the best you can spray and praise not true

1185
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 1: these guys aren't praying usually when they shoot, but you

1186
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean, those are the two times though,

1187
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 1: and when you can slow down a little bit and

1188
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 1: just make sure you really nail it and to give

1189
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: two nice bookends to an episode, dude. And there is

1190
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: no worse feeling. I mean, there's probably worse feelings, but

1191
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 1: it's it is so brutal to be like looking at

1192
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: your monitor and looking at just like a potato and

1193
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,560
Speaker 1: I'd say potato, not like a real like just like

1194
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 1: a real dogshit frame and you're just like, oh my god,

1195
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: it's it's torture. It's to you're just like looking at

1196
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: it and you're just like, I know what I need

1197
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: to do to make this not look good, but we can't.

1198
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: And I'm just like a buddy, this is hard. That's

1199
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: a hard pill to swallow. That's one of the other

1200
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 1: camera man has an acronym for that. It's called nimming.

1201
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,560
Speaker 1: Tyler Emmett is one of the other camera guys. Is

1202
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: not here, but uh, what are you doing over there? Tyler?

1203
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, nimmon, what do you what do you mean? Nimmon?

1204
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: Not in movie. I'm shooting something that will not be

1205
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 1: let me ask you guys nother question. Uh. I'll start

1206
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: out with set a scene for you. You know what

1207
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: you go to when you're at home depot or someplace

1208
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 1: like that, and someone wants a product that's up on

1209
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: the high shelf and they got six people. They've got

1210
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: people with flags, he's got orange vests. The guy buckled

1211
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: into the scissor lift was buckled into the fork lift,

1212
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: and you know, there's a siren going off and he's

1213
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: gonna like extract a grill from the up left, you know,

1214
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 1: and it looks like they're, you know, getting ready to

1215
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: arm a nuclear warhead. With the amount of staff and

1216
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 1: safety pro safety protocol, they shut down that whole quadit

1217
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: accordion metal fence up. Yeah. Man, okay, Uh, you don't

1218
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: work in that environment, not regularly. So how what's your attitude? Uh?

1219
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: What are your attitudes with risk? Because there's like pretty

1220
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: real risk about injury. Yeah. Well, like we were talking

1221
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: about my attitude change because we had that goat hunt

1222
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm not ashamed to say it, but

1223
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: we got into a spot where we were like crampons.

1224
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: This was the Mountain goat hunt, Like to when was that?

1225
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: Was it last year might be in Yeah, I think

1226
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 1: it was season ten. Yeah. We got into a spot

1227
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: where you took a shot at that goat and we've

1228
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: been hiking all day and uh we got we were

1229
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: like in an avalanche shot where it was like I

1230
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 1: don't know how how big was that she from like

1231
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: where we were scrambling around to like the bottom which

1232
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: was just like giant down timber that was like thousand

1233
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: I mean that whole drainage was probably but if you

1234
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: took a slip and rolled the hill down, how deep? Yeah,

1235
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: So I was that to me, I felt the dead

1236
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: but like a mess. You'd be real banged up. And

1237
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 1: that was I think that was the only time I

1238
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 1: bailed on a stock. I was like, I didn't. I

1239
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: just was not feeling it that day and not used

1240
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 1: to cramp. Yeah, cramp on and so I calculate risk

1241
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: and more now than I did. But when we were

1242
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: in grizzly country, we slept on this hon I just

1243
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: did with Yanni. Yannie was the only dude sleeping outside

1244
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: of the bear fence. That bear fence is only for

1245
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: your mind, dude. I kind of looked down on you

1246
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 1: for him. The picture of that bear that they put

1247
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: on that bear fence is just like there's no I

1248
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 1: thought you had it for keeping your caribou meat safe. No,

1249
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: when they yeah, we around, it's like he just don't.

1250
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 1: But I mean like I wasn't really thinking about risk.

1251
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm not really thinking about it in that environment. It's

1252
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: like more like if I have control, I don't know.

1253
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 1: It's hard to explain. I mean, you guys did get

1254
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: attacked by a grizzly bear. Yeah, we got charged by

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01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: a grizzly bear. Yeah, that story has been That story

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01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 1: has been told. You know what me and Chris were

1257
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 1: talking about. That's a shame on that. On the fog

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01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: Knack trip, the fishing was freaking amazing, and I always

1259
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 1: forget to like think of talk about what you think

1260
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: about that. Oh, you guys get some gravy. It's because

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01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: you wrote a grizzlyberger kind of Yeah, you guys get

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01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 1: some amazing opportunities. Oh dude, that's more messages being like

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01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: thanks for the amazing fishing. Don't you have to pay

1264
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: for my own healthcare? But know that that shoe we

1265
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: did up at the fish shack, that was like during

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01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: like Pete COVID deal. That was like July. That was

1267
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: where we went up fishing and there was a moment

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01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,799
Speaker 1: where we're on the boat. We were like tethered to Steven.

1269
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: Janni were on camera and we were tethered to your

1270
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: guys boat and if you guys hooked up, we'd quickly

1271
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: like pull the line on our bow to get up

1272
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: to your boat to film it. And then that was

1273
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: like kind of like we were dicking around a lot,

1274
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 1: and then there was a moment you're like, all right,

1275
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna fish, We're gonna film, and we're like that

1276
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 1: trip was amazing. Man, that was a good trip. So

1277
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: that was the one where I where I feel like

1278
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,759
Speaker 1: I did not hit the mark as the producer because

1279
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: the show there was Steve teaching you guys all how

1280
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: to fish. I felt like we did like I don't

1281
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 1: want to say lackluster, but it wasn't our best performance.

1282
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:40,560
Speaker 1: We pulled a great episode out of that, but that

1283
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: was that was also the happiest I've ever seen that

1284
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 1: how many having a baby get married? The black hats

1285
01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 1: number one, You're pretty stoked on that moose this last

1286
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: trip or two ago. I was not like that black

1287
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: cod though, dude, that black hot I mean it was.

1288
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: It was funny that you were that it worked up

1289
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 1: about it, because like the process of doing that is

1290
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 1: so underwhelming, and it's so like there's a PostScript to that. Yeah,

1291
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be um, oh yes,

1292
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: I mean visually I thought learning how to catch black

1293
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 1: cod I thought it was going to be very very

1294
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: hard to get good at it. Right then we caught

1295
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 1: one right away, and I was happy because it turned

1296
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: out that it wasn't gonna be very hard to learn

1297
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 1: how to do it, and it has been nothing but

1298
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: downhill from there. Really, it's, in fact, turned out to

1299
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: be harder than I ever thought it was. And you

1300
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: caught me at a moment of false symptimism that was

1301
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: like a total fluke beginner's luck, total fluke. Whoa fluke? No,

1302
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that. Whoa, I didn't know that. That

1303
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: makes it even better. Every time I go, I get

1304
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: worse at it. Really, So I was like, this is

1305
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 1: gonna be a decade long process, right to learn how

1306
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 1: to deep drop black out. And I'm like, oh, I

1307
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna have to spend ten years trying

1308
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 1: to figure this out. Here it is, well, yeah, you're

1309
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: getting ready to make a new show called Drop Boys.

1310
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: So we're gonna travel the world to the deepest places

1311
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: and drop that electric rod down. See if we catch

1312
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: de drop Boys. I think they're still Yeah, there's still

1313
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: a market for that. Yeah, I wouldn't abandon that, Garrett,

1314
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: tell me, what's the prettiest scene that you shot in

1315
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 1: season eleven? Man, remind me of what those would have been.

1316
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: The season to the next is like so arbitrary because

1317
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: notes com prepared. I mean I only worked on one

1318
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: episode and season eleven, so it's easy for me to think, Okay,

1319
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: well in uh in uh the tur turkey, Yeah, walking

1320
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: through those stands of ponderosa up high to that place

1321
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: with like really tall grass and the like the light

1322
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 1: on the grass in the mornings in the evening, Steve

1323
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 1: walking through it slow motion. Man, we had different trips

1324
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 1: on that, different experiences much totally. You suffered way more

1325
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 1: than I did. It was beautiful though, Yeah, but that's

1326
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: pretty stuff. And the and when you got your turkey, Steve.

1327
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 1: I think that stuff made the show real. Pretty back

1328
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: lit area we were in first, that was a wilderness

1329
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: area before they had wilderness areas, so they made the HeLa.

1330
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: They had some other name for it. Eldo Leopold advocated

1331
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: for it. They made the HeLa. They didn't have the right.

1332
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 1: They came here. What they called it. They made it

1333
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: a wilderness. It was the Forest Services only area that

1334
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,799
Speaker 1: had that level of protection. Then later when they passed

1335
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 1: the Wilderness Act, they rolled the helo was the first

1336
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: thing they rolled into it. So we were doing a

1337
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:11,440
Speaker 1: thing about the helo and the way fire shapes the landscape,

1338
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, it was a beautiful place. I mean

1339
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, like every place we go. I mean

1340
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: not every place, because there's sometimes we'd every place because

1341
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: you were always The cool thing about this show is

1342
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: like we're always up and out before the sunrise typically,

1343
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:30,679
Speaker 1: and so you get to go and like very remote

1344
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 1: places and see it and experience it at like the

1345
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 1: best times because you're usually out after sunset because you're

1346
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 1: hunting till last light and you're up before first light,

1347
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: and you're just seeing like the most like I've seen

1348
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:48,520
Speaker 1: the most amazing ship working on this show, like landscapes

1349
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 1: and nature and just things that we observe that I

1350
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 1: even like personally, it's still like don't go out and

1351
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: go as hard as we do on on the show,

1352
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: So it's like always a real treat to go see

1353
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: something like even the first one that stretch up in

1354
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 1: BC was like, dude, there was like that day where

1355
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 1: the kind of the clouds broke and it was kind

1356
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,560
Speaker 1: of like that that spin drip. Oh and in the

1357
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: on the Goat Hunt when we had that crazy oh

1358
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 1: my god, God shining down the craziest thing I've ever

1359
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 1: seen in my life. It's like stunning. I'm goose bumps.

1360
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 1: There's so many like you're saying, yeah, you just see

1361
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: like really amazing, amazing stuff. I don't know if we

1362
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 1: capture it to the level that we're experiencing, and I

1363
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 1: hope we do, but we try. It almost leaves you

1364
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 1: with a feeling of failure a little bit. And when

1365
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 1: you see stuff like that, you're just like, dude, that's

1366
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: all like pretty beautiful places and things, landscapes. What about

1367
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: like a scene where you caught that veritate moment of

1368
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: a human having having an emotional experience or having experiencing

1369
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 1: you were there to capture it. I got I got

1370
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: one Based on Season eleven, for sure. I think about

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01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: a lot is when when you and Evan when he

1372
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 1: ended up, you know, you guys were in position and

1373
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 1: he shot that blacktail. The elation in like like uh,

1374
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 1: the celebration was like so cool, and I think we

1375
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 1: got that. You guys like can brace in and being

1376
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: like man, we just kept putting it, you know, putting

1377
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: the coals to the fire and it paid off just that,

1378
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 1: like unhindered joy. That was cool. Yeah, similar in the

1379
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,560
Speaker 1: in the Moose experience to it when Clay laid that

1380
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 1: thing down. I mean, you guys were hugging and high

1381
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 1: five and it was crazy in the moment. You know,

1382
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 1: like we'll see how it all ends up in the edit,

1383
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 1: but I mean that was definitely high in that hunt.

1384
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 1: It sounds cliche to say it, but I yeah, I

1385
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: just it's it's like it's just getting to it's probably

1386
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 1: it's like a thing of aging, I guess, but it's

1387
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: just fun to watch people get stuff. Man, that it's

1388
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: fun to watch people get stuff, especially after you've worked

1389
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,560
Speaker 1: all that time where we thought we were done. You know,

1390
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: we thought after nine and a half days, we're going

1391
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 1: on for an afternoon, let's glass on the place where

1392
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 1: we haven't seen any moose. And it comes together. I

1393
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: mean that is next level. Those are the best man,

1394
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: because that's said, yeah, where you get like the best emotion.

1395
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: And so I think like outside of the success or

1396
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: failure ultimately, like you're and too, I'd like to think

1397
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 1: of us as production crew. We're all in good enough shape.

1398
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 1: Like there's not a ton of struggle in the field,

1399
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: like visually, like that would be another kind of cool

1400
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 1: thing if you were like all disheveled and tired and

1401
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 1: like no no, yeah, so there's not really like an

1402
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: emotion in that and the like lead up process. Oh yeah,

1403
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 1: if you if I could produce that for season twelve, Yeah,

1404
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: Steve on some skis out there, some more dirt on

1405
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 1: his face. We gotta put more dirt on his face.

1406
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 1: Two kept together, so that just like cruising. I mean

1407
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 1: even even back to the the episode one of season eleven,

1408
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 1: I mean that was brutal, but I don't think it

1409
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 1: seeing it. I don't know what part of the cut

1410
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 1: I saw off it was the final, But it doesn't

1411
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: the suffrage. It doesn't read because you guys are just

1412
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: kept together kind of and you're watching a week turned

1413
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 1: into twenty two minutes exactly with a lot of So

1414
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: if you just took the twenty two minute or whatever

1415
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: the hell Now we don't you know, we're not like

1416
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 1: wed to the twenty two minute things much. But if

1417
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,719
Speaker 1: you just took it and made it like people hiking

1418
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: through the rain for twenty two minutes, make it look

1419
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 1: you get the right dismal feeling. But how much can

1420
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: you really devote to it. It's like you can't capture

1421
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: it's it's really hard to capture. How much time is

1422
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: spent on a glass and knob, yeah, because because I edit, Yeah, yeah,

1423
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you spend like four days on some glass

1424
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: and tit. How much is that actually? How much of

1425
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: the show does it actually make? You know? I attempted

1426
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: to do that in the last gay. I took a

1427
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 1: time lapse of you sitting there glassing, which will not

1428
01:23:54,200 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: make it obviously with people in them laps people time

1429
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 1: lapses of any vertebrate except migrating caribou were okay, oh yeah.

1430
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,799
Speaker 1: I thought maybe if it was you, just you by yourself,

1431
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: maybe they're But I don't think that's because it's because

1432
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 1: of the subject matter, because I feel the same way

1433
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: it looks weird about whether it's a human or a

1434
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: tree blowing in the wind, and time laps, it just

1435
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 1: shakes in the frame, and it's one of the ugliest

1436
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 1: things you could put on television. H you need the end,

1437
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,560
Speaker 1: you need to slow that shutter, telling the story of

1438
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 1: how long you were sitting there. That's the only reason

1439
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: I took that shot because it definitely paints a picture

1440
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 1: of how long during that nine days we sat there

1441
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 1: and not didn't move just a class. There's things that

1442
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 1: I think that there's things people work on where it's

1443
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 1: not hard, but they they're making it seem There's like

1444
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:07,679
Speaker 1: media products, products where they're trying to make something seem

1445
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: hard that's not yeah, And I think one of the

1446
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:15,759
Speaker 1: frustrations of working on stuff is that, um, there's stuff

1447
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,719
Speaker 1: that you watch later and you're like, why can't you can't?

1448
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 1: Like why can't you? And this is no, this isn't

1449
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 1: the too. In saying this, it's not to criticize the coverage,

1450
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 1: it's just why can't you capture certain amounts of annoyance?

1451
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: You know, like being just in very high wind? What

1452
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: what being in very high wind for five or six

1453
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: days feels like you can't get there, you can't feel

1454
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 1: what it feels like just to wake up and be like, oh,

1455
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go and try to find the fortitude to

1456
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 1: sit on this to sit on this hill and watch

1457
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 1: the valley blow, despite all indicators that nothing is gonna happen,

1458
01:25:56,160 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 1: that you'll go do that and there's an experience you're living. Um,

1459
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 1: you just can't you can't get to it because because

1460
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 1: of the of the time limit. It's what kind of

1461
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 1: makes that stuff interesting. We've joked about it is that

1462
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: stuff they're into in Northern Europe, right, isn't Northern Europe?

1463
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 1: They're big into it. Where you just watched like a

1464
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: fire slow TV TV. Yeah, oh yeah, I mean I'm

1465
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 1: into that. You're in slow TV train? What do you

1466
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: watch on slow TV? Yeah? He was like a train

1467
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 1: going through like the Alps or something for three hours.

1468
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 1: You know, you could drone like like just long drone

1469
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: footage going over like cities, canyons slow TV. I think

1470
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: so I like that because that's what our that's what

1471
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: our TV goes to you when you're not doing anything.

1472
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 1: It's like shots shorelines or drone shots of mountaintops, or

1473
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: just like underwater as though like you know, you were

1474
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 1: free diving or you had a scuba tank with like

1475
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: unlimited amount of you know, uh and you're just like

1476
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 1: going for hours, like swimming under like maybe it's home

1477
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 1: from like a submarine or something a TV. I don't

1478
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 1: think we capture very well as well, we don't because

1479
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 1: we put the cameras awa. Time gets dark and we're

1480
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: going back to camp. Often the most like not exciting,

1481
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: but like the adventure part of the venture starts as

1482
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: soon as like we're like, okay, let's pack up the

1483
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: cameras because it's dark. Don't anything that brings us back

1484
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 1: to full circle to year in Garrett's first trip when

1485
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:27,959
Speaker 1: we walked by supposedly the same rock in the darkness

1486
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 1: where it goes, we've that rock right there. Don't listen

1487
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 1: to that. Steve always says it's not a death march

1488
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:39,600
Speaker 1: until you disagree about where you're going. Yeah, finally, a

1489
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 1: death is not a death march until there's a fight

1490
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 1: and there's like there's a fight and there's people that

1491
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 1: are going to branch off and go their own direction.

1492
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 1: We're not sticking together as a team anymore. Boys that

1493
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: you guys can go that way, we'll see it camp. Well,

1494
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 1: we ended up we ended up walking out a different

1495
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 1: way than we came in. Uh. After I got his bucket, right, Yeah,

1496
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: that night, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, And it was not

1497
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 1: it was not the ideal route. Technology has changed death

1498
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 1: marches because what here's what used to drive What used

1499
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 1: to drive a death marches is what drove a death marches. This.

1500
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 1: You are in difficult to navigate terrain and you're operating

1501
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 1: with GPS with no mapping or track function, right, So

1502
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 1: you wander around all day being like I'm gonna go

1503
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 1: around that cactus patch and there's a little pass through

1504
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,719
Speaker 1: the hill, right and and that looks like a horrible

1505
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 1: little ditch that I should not go around. And then

1506
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 1: at dark, all you know is you know a point

1507
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 1: that you made where campus, and so then it's like,

1508
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 1: I guess we'll just walked straight to that point. That's

1509
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: not how you got there. There are so many nights

1510
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: and we've been walking. I'm just like walking behind you,

1511
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 1: like a couple of people behind you. And then all

1512
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden we stopped. I see the GPS come out,

1513
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, ship, we're not anywhere and we're not

1514
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 1: close to home. Boys. Started keeping my own track once

1515
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: you could do that, because I just started to mistrust

1516
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 1: the what was the one in Colorado? We did with

1517
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 1: Rourke that it was like that wasn't a full There

1518
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 1: was one with Brody we got a big fight was

1519
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: on that one down to the golf course. That now

1520
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 1: that night, that was a good one. I enjoyed that one.

1521
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 1: But earlier we did some We went to the It's

1522
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 1: always easy to go down to the to the bottom

1523
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 1: of a draw easically, think it's easier walking for a

1524
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: little bit until it turns into a waterfall and then

1525
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:41,600
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, this wasn't the right right. Yeah, I

1526
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 1: do think I'll stand by this. I do think that

1527
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 1: um that people don't like my route selection, but it's

1528
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 1: not haphazard. Okay, it's not. I'm factoring in. I'm probably

1529
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 1: factoring in more things than you're factoring in. It's probably

1530
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 1: It's probably true, which is I don't care if I'm

1531
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 1: lost or not. That's one of the things which is

1532
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 1: good because when I first started, I did not like

1533
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 1: walking a night. Really, I hadn't done a lot of it.

1534
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 1: I have the sense of like I could be back

1535
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 1: to the spot. There's no you don't need to be anywhere.

1536
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 1: We have all this, but there's a sense that I've

1537
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 1: gotta get back. Yeah, it's like I think it's ingrained

1538
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 1: in US as a whatever. There's no you don't need

1539
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 1: to be anywhere. It really opens up possibilities when you say, Okay,

1540
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 1: I'll hike for three hours in the dark or yeah,

1541
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 1: or just it's fine, it's gonna be fine. Like there's

1542
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 1: no sense of you need to be here at a

1543
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: certain time or do you think all the listeners understand them,

1544
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:43,639
Speaker 1: like or maybe people that don't hunt much like hunting

1545
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 1: and Western hunting is like there's generally no trails. I

1546
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 1: just like I think, but I think of people who

1547
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 1: don't hunt or haven't really spent a lot of time

1548
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 1: out west in the mountains and stuff. Yeah, it's like

1549
01:30:57,439 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: most of it's not on a trail. So we're talking

1550
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 1: about like hiking back in the night. It's like you're

1551
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:06,600
Speaker 1: just you're walking on the Yeah, you're bushwhacking. Yeah, And

1552
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,680
Speaker 1: that's like I can wear you down. Some of my

1553
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 1: five some of my best, um, some of my happiest,

1554
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 1: my mentally happiest moments would be not filming anything, but

1555
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 1: when you got just enough moonlight to do a good

1556
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 1: no headland night hike. I like that. It was nice.

1557
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 1: That was a really nice when when when you when

1558
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 1: everybody's just running dark a few miles like that. Yeah,

1559
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: that happened on the go hunt. I feel like a

1560
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 1: couple of times with that the snow, the snow is

1561
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 1: bright enough no headlamps to kind of bugging you. Yea,

1562
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,919
Speaker 1: I love it. The headland can be a little disorienting

1563
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: because you only have like your little tube a light

1564
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 1: that you can look through. You know, so if you

1565
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 1: kind of let your eyes, if it's not pitch black out,

1566
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: if you let your eyes aggest, you can end up

1567
01:31:55,920 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 1: seeing a lot which is cool. Um. I was just wondering.

1568
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 1: I know we don't have uh, Justin Turkowski here, paren

1569
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 1: James Hare, but for any of you guys who have

1570
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 1: done like surface water filming, I don't think any of

1571
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 1: you guys have done underwater filming or have you. If

1572
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 1: someone could speak a little bit, yeah, I mean I

1573
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 1: can't speak to Justin and parents. They're like real, like

1574
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:22,640
Speaker 1: the real deal. I will say to their cover is

1575
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 1: just amazing. A little bit I did. I ended up

1576
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 1: burning up a camera, So yeah, you've done speaking of

1577
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:35,680
Speaker 1: the like difficulty of keeping gear running for sure. No,

1578
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:39,879
Speaker 1: But the thing I think Justin it was really impressive

1579
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 1: because when we were down this is not this is

1580
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 1: season ten. I think I didn't do the season eleven

1581
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 1: hawaii wan but we were down there with a similar crew.

1582
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:51,640
Speaker 1: You came up, Steve, and you were talking about how

1583
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 1: like you guys were on some fish you shot and

1584
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 1: then surfaced to catch air and then went back down

1585
01:32:57,680 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 1: and justin like stayed down the whole time, and like

1586
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 1: you on that to be very impressive. Yeah. I was like, dude,

1587
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 1: that is because it's like, yeah, his coverage on that

1588
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 1: I don't and I don't see parents, but I'm sure

1589
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 1: it's like absolutely just as insane. It's like it's like

1590
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:14,679
Speaker 1: we talked about were bitchy little bitches, but like, dude,

1591
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,880
Speaker 1: the underwater stuff is a whole different deal. Like his

1592
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,919
Speaker 1: coverage is so impressive because he's able to like connect

1593
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 1: everything kind of in one shot. And I think it's

1594
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: also the way things are set up underwater and going

1595
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,679
Speaker 1: to play out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really cool.

1596
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:31,759
Speaker 1: I guess in that way, it seems like the skill

1597
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:35,560
Speaker 1: of the camera operators need to be equal to or

1598
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 1: surpass the skills of the hunter, right, which is the case. Yeah,

1599
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 1: in the room, I'm just gonna ask who like didn't

1600
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 1: who hasn't hunted or didn't grow up hunting, and then

1601
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 1: now because they've been like following Steve and Janice and

1602
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 1: the rest of our gang, Like who could just pick

1603
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 1: it up and do it? I didn't grow up hunting,

1604
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 1: but I could. I could I get something down if

1605
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 1: I had to. I think, I don't know, not nothing,

1606
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 1: maybe not a wall hanger, but I could shoot it up. Steve,

1607
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 1: what do you think I mean? I don't know. I mean,

1608
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 1: unless you're just kicked in the head by a mutle,

1609
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how you would not have picked up

1610
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: like a lot of little points. Yeah, you know that's

1611
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,560
Speaker 1: that's a funny point. Because we were in Alaska and

1612
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 1: I had this on our Texas deal too with Johannis thing.

1613
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:29,760
Speaker 1: It was like I really enjoyed the hunting side of

1614
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: it more than the filming side of it. Like I

1615
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 1: wanted to not film. I just wanted to like be

1616
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 1: hunting caribou because I like, I feel like I have

1617
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 1: a knowledge of hunting now that I didn't have when

1618
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:43,679
Speaker 1: I started. Took a long time to get it, but yeah,

1619
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 1: I feel like I spotted some game on that one.

1620
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 1: I had some good some good eyes We just made

1621
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 1: a video of an episode we tried to make for

1622
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 1: season eleven, but it was just lots of problems with

1623
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 1: weather equipment, COVID. UH. It was an ice fishing episode.

1624
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 1: So we made a ten minute We made a ten

1625
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:12,640
Speaker 1: minute video about the episode that never will be in

1626
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 1: an explanation of why I'll never being. It's kind of

1627
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 1: a it's a little bit of a condemnation. I sent

1628
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 1: it to UH. I sent to a friend of mine

1629
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 1: who was friends with UM, a friend of mine whose

1630
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:25,680
Speaker 1: friends with Jim Harrison, and I sent it to him

1631
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 1: to watch and he had to laugh about it, and

1632
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 1: he said, you've read Harrison's piece about ice fishing called

1633
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 1: the moronic sport, right, But of all the things, uh,

1634
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 1: what is the hardest thing that What is the hardest

1635
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 1: thing to make seem interesting with a camera? Ice fishing

1636
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 1: and white tailed deer standard and white tailed deer stand

1637
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:52,600
Speaker 1: That's crazy because that's that's you're talking about. Probably of

1638
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,599
Speaker 1: the outdoor television he has made his white tailed deer stands,

1639
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 1: and all of it's like pretty formulaic because there's only something.

1640
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 1: There's really so much you can do, like you can't

1641
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:04,600
Speaker 1: you're stuck in a spot. You know you can't cover it.

1642
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:06,560
Speaker 1: You can't. You're not walking around, you're not glass and

1643
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 1: there's not like new things. You're usually solitary, so there's

1644
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 1: no conversations with like another person that you can do

1645
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:15,599
Speaker 1: the way you can with like a Western style hunt

1646
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 1: or if you're fishing or something. It's like, yeah, it's

1647
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:19,799
Speaker 1: pretty much. A friend described it to me as whisper

1648
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 1: whisper shoot. That's pretty accurate. Yeah, ice fishing in white

1649
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 1: tail deer home, anytime you're anytime you're stuck in one spot,

1650
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 1: it's really hard to just give a variety of angles.

1651
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 1: Menasitor has a hard time because you just don't have

1652
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 1: you don't have like the coverage. It's just limited. You

1653
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 1: have like one viewpoint. Yeah, I feel like the talent

1654
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 1: is going to carry that the whole way through. The

1655
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 1: white tail hunter with that camera in his face, talking

1656
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 1: about what's going on is your content because otherwise you're

1657
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 1: looking at time lapses, leaf shots, maybe some deer. There's

1658
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,080
Speaker 1: been so many times when you're up on like our

1659
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 1: eight of just sitting in a saddle and you're just like,

1660
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: I guess I'll film some more bark. That's never gonna

1661
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 1: make it to ye. Yeah, yeah, yeah, those are tough.

1662
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 1: I remember one time I got we were doing a

1663
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 1: Michigan hunt much. I don't know if that episode came

1664
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:22,600
Speaker 1: out that there was three the other day, said to

1665
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 1: I said to it, I forgot. There's been three that

1666
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 1: we didn't do. Out of the d fifty whatever, there's

1667
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 1: been three we didn't cut, but that was that was

1668
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 1: one we didn't cut that. Yeah, well, Chris, I asked Steve,

1669
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 1: I said, did that show not make it? Because Chris

1670
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: had to get out of the stand take No, I

1671
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 1: hadn't take a leak, man, I climbed down. The other

1672
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 1: debate about the tree stand hunting is like if you're

1673
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 1: in the same tree or the not the same tree,

1674
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 1: but you snake it out and just peak, yeah and

1675
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 1: basically touching. If I was in a tree stand, it's

1676
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 1: easy to take a leak. But I was in a

1677
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 1: blind on somebody else's property, and I was like, well,

1678
01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm not just gonna like pee in this side of

1679
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 1: this dude's blind, right, because that's kind of messed up. Yeah,

1680
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 1: in a box blind and you were in a tree

1681
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 1: that I could you were like, I don't know, twenty

1682
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 1: yards away from me. Lass on and we hadn't seen

1683
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 1: anything all morning, and I'm like, okay, really I gotta

1684
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 1: take a leak. So I climbed down. I'd left I

1685
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 1: made a rookie mistake. I'd left my camera in the

1686
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 1: blind because I didn't want to make noise climbing down

1687
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 1: the ladder and like banging everything around. So I leave

1688
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 1: the camera. I get down. I get down the ladder.

1689
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I see Steve do like the

1690
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 1: antler hands up and I'm just like, and I can

1691
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 1: hear this thing like crunching the leaves, and I'm like,

1692
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:33,800
Speaker 1: and I just I like take out my cell phone

1693
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 1: and I'm like, try slowly race up my iPhone like

1694
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:40,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna make it in. That was That was a

1695
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 1: that was the lesson to learn. Man, I knew better

1696
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 1: leave my camera too. I was like bummed out about that. Yeah,

1697
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 1: that was one of the That was probably the coldest.

1698
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 1: That was one of the coldest I've ever That's that

1699
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 1: wet Midwest. Yeah that was cold. That was cold. Yeah,

1700
01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 1: that was a tough one. Well man, We've got to

1701
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:03,640
Speaker 1: go out and make some more shows. Oh, please do it?

1702
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: Please do I do have to say I'm old for

1703
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 1: two on this season. I was supposed to do two

1704
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:12,880
Speaker 1: of them, and I got way laid for various reasons. Um,

1705
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 1: without a doubt, Like all of us have been saying,

1706
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:19,599
Speaker 1: it's like amazing being out in the field filming this show.

1707
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 1: Every time I learned something, whether it's hunting or tenacity

1708
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 1: or you know, I just can't say enough about how

1709
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 1: how big of an influence. This last seven years of

1710
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 1: filming this with you has been positive, all positive, best job,

1711
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 1: best job I've ever had. For sure. I thought of doubt.

1712
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 1: You guys have all taken your little breaks too and

1713
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:47,600
Speaker 1: going on to you know stuff, air quotes, you know

1714
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 1: better things, and then I wouldn't say better well at

1715
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: the time you did. And then six months later I

1716
01:39:53,840 --> 01:40:00,640
Speaker 1: get an email, our phone call, so I got scratches

1717
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 1: different at all, scratches different. Yeah, No, I've it's been

1718
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 1: I've had I've had just a wonderful time with you guys. Man. Um.

1719
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 1: As much as I like I love knocking around with

1720
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 1: my kids, um, I like just going doing stuff for fun,

1721
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 1: but I really, uh yeah, the time, the time we've

1722
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 1: all spent in the field has been pretty special, and

1723
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:24,760
Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of crazy ship yeah, real adventure. Yeah,

1724
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 1: there's no there's there's Yeah, there's nothing else I do

1725
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 1: for work that's like there's like kind of created or

1726
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 1: constructed adventure. This is real adventure. Every time you don't

1727
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen? Is it? Is it? Drug Store Cowboys?

1728
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 1: That Gus Vand's Aunt movie where the guys always says, uh,

1729
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:43,680
Speaker 1: the things we've seen, Bob, the things we've seen, I

1730
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:48,680
Speaker 1: always quote that it's crazy shit. Well that other cool

1731
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:50,599
Speaker 1: thing too. And we've all talked about like the most

1732
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 1: positive feedback from the general public anything I've nobody cares

1733
01:40:55,040 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 1: about anything else. They're like, you know, Steve Ornel, Yeah, like, uh,

1734
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:04,640
Speaker 1: can I get you to sign you know, I have

1735
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 1: something signed. Yeah. It's been fun, man, things we've seen

1736
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 1: and the things we'll see, things will sing in the future.

1737
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 1: Ye No. And the cast of characters that come come

1738
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:20,559
Speaker 1: along with the show, like Danny Yep and everybody else

1739
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 1: that we've gotten to meet over the years. I value

1740
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 1: all those Oh. I mean you could just spend time

1741
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 1: like I didn't know col and then all of a

1742
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 1: sudden you you spend all day every day for like

1743
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 1: a week ago. Cal Yeah, you're like, oh, I know

1744
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 1: this guy. Yeah great, Yeah, it's right. How many guys

1745
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:40,600
Speaker 1: are sticking around for Tribuae. I got nowhere to go,

1746
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:46,560
Speaker 1: I got nowhere to be. You're not a local and

1747
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:52,680
Speaker 1: not a local. So when you're watching season eleven or

1748
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:54,639
Speaker 1: any of the show is going back a long long time.

1749
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:56,680
Speaker 1: These are some of the These are the voices you

1750
01:41:56,720 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 1: will not hear occusially Gill's voices in there. Maybe in

1751
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 1: the background. It was a cameo now and then, but

1752
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 1: it's like the people behind it. I once it was

1753
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 1: of a different camera guy that went back to the

1754
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 1: one of the guys that shot the very first episodes,

1755
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 1: very first episodes. I once uh remarked that I thought

1756
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 1: that the amount of walking it was like the per

1757
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 1: the me is a bird hunter and the cameraman was

1758
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 1: the bird dog. And the amount of miles put on, Yeah,

1759
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 1: putting some miles on. So when you're watching the show, uh,

1760
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 1: that's who's putting the miles on. And um, we'll be

1761
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 1: rolling out an episode every week, I don't know how

1762
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 1: eight shows. Uh we uh some some great spearfish and stuff,

1763
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 1: big game hunting stuff, turkey stuff, the usual mix, great

1764
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 1: characters and uh, we'll be seen first again for free.

1765
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: I keep the get people seeing that they think where

1766
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 1: it's like a chart, it's for free. That's a good deal, man,

1767
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 1: that's a good deal watching. Go watch you watch all

1768
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff on there available there. We'll have a

1769
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:12,799
Speaker 1: lot of auxiliary stuff and watch out for our episode

1770
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 1: where we deconstruct why an episode doesn't become an episode

1771
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 1: that is an episode that's a full episode. No, it's

1772
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 1: just a YouTube video. It's ten minutes long. But it's

1773
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 1: about why Yannie doesn't think it's funny. But Yanni's like

1774
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:29,599
Speaker 1: has taken to negging me all the time. He thinks

1775
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 1: it's two inside baseball. But I think it's funny. It's funny.

1776
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm honest, it's very it's a very it's a funny

1777
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 1: thing about why ice fishing is the white whale. I'd

1778
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 1: say it's the white whale, which is a Moby Dick reference.

1779
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:47,679
Speaker 1: You guys aren't well read why it's the white whale?

1780
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 1: Aboutdoor TV. It can't be captured. That's in there. Yeah,

1781
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 1: that was in there. That's in there. That's probably the video.

1782
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 1: You can't if it's not spearing. It's like, it's the

1783
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 1: white whale. Ice fish you cannot be captured. Um, and

1784
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 1: so we'll release that and you'll and you'll see about that.

1785
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 1: But season eleven good as ever. Meat dot Com check

1786
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,680
Speaker 1: it out and stay tuned for trivia. We'll see what

1787
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 1: these guys have picked up over the years. Oh not much,

1788
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:26,040
Speaker 1: No no, I got a expectations from my performance. I

1789
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be some strong performance. Thanks everybody for

1790
01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:28,639
Speaker 1: joining