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Speaker 2: Well, you know, the biggest thing is that, uh, whether

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Speaker 2: If CJ goes, then I think there's a I think

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Speaker 3: More of a sense of urgency. I think a little

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Speaker 3: But there's not a lot of things you got to

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Speaker 2: You still got to do your job right and and

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Speaker 3: And and you know, the.

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Speaker 2: One thing about CJ and Trevor both, I mean, they

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Speaker 3: That's just what the backup does, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I know that role having been in it myself

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Speaker 3: And it's really at any position.

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Speaker 3: It's always the next man.

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Speaker 2: Up mentality, and and we got to make sure that

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Speaker 3: Is going to practice? Ay, he won't practice today. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's too soon after the game.

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Speaker 4: So do you is there any thought to moving in

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Speaker 4: What do you need to see I know you've.

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Speaker 2: Mentioned coaches, but a players, I think as players you

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Speaker 3: You have to kind of you got to help them through.

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Speaker 2: Possibly you know, showing them how to how to study,

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Speaker 2: how to prepare mentally. More than anything, A lot of

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Speaker 2: Well they're not listen, then percent is the risks to

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Speaker 3: Obviously, there is never a.

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Speaker 3: One's strengths too. You know, if it is CJ, you know,

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Speaker 3: To do their part too, right. They they've got to

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Speaker 3: And you know went through this in seventeen and you know,

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Speaker 2: Are there similarities to it that you can make, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: The value of a good backup quarterback. No offense changed

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Speaker 3: You know, I think.

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Speaker 2: it's a it's an aggressive style that goes all the

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Speaker 2: now he's got seven guys back there with with eyes

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Speaker 3: And and that's what you see with this defense.

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Speaker 2: And the strength is obviously you know this D line,

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Speaker 2: they're they're they're aggressive. Obviously we know Miles Garrett heck

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Speaker 6: Do you know him?

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Speaker 2: A lot of familiarity there, I mean just knowing him

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Speaker 3: You kind of know the structure a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Think you know, he's changed some things, you know, uh,

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Speaker 2: he's got a talented defense right now and they're playing

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Speaker 4: I know it's not the same situation because Mahomes had

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Speaker 5: So is there a part of you that's holding out

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Speaker 2: I don't want to compare two injuries two different people,

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Speaker 4: You've played with quarterbacks, coach quarterbacks who have injury issues,

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Speaker 4: So how tough is it to sort of take a

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Speaker 3: Know, I know what you're You're you're getting it, you know.

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Speaker 3: For me, obviously, I gotta I gotta listen.

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Speaker 2: Now, you listen to the player, obviously, But but it's

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Speaker 3: And I have to lean on that just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And then you got to make you got to make

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Speaker 2: But then you on the other side go, you know what,

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Speaker 4: He seemed to report himself really well the other yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, we got a lot of confidence in CJ.

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Speaker 2: You know what he's done here obviously, his his history

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Speaker 3: And and you know.

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Speaker 2: If if the case this week where he you know,

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Speaker 2: and and you uh, you know, you don't miss a beat.

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Speaker 4: Thanks