WEBVTT - #23 Alex

0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Hello, Jackie.

0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Hi, how are you good? How are you good?

0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:11.799
<v Speaker 1>I just got home?

0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Can you give me just the Liliputians? Real or not real?

0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Do you ever wish you could run like a cheetah?

0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:19.759
<v Speaker 2>Do you like cold play? Okay?

0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Can you let me ask some questions?

0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I have to go? What I have to go doesn't

0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:28.520
<v Speaker 2>feel so good when the when the shoe is on

0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:30.600
<v Speaker 2>the other foot doesn't. Why are you used to hanging

0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:32.839
<v Speaker 2>up on me and saying I have to go and

0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:33.560
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah.

0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:34.680
<v Speaker 3>Actually, don't listen.

0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I gotta go though, I gotta I gotta go. No,

0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:42.040
<v Speaker 2>I gotta go. Okay, Byetta, I gotta go, Jackie. Rats

0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:53.240
<v Speaker 2>from Gimblet Media. I'm Jonathan Goldstein and this is Heavyweight

0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Today's episode.

0:00:56.200 --> 0:01:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Alex, Uh, how long I could do that?

0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.759
<v Speaker 2>Gimblet Media CEO Alex Bloomberg has asked that I meet

0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:33.280
<v Speaker 2>him in the studio. He's late.

0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh hey, Alex.

0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Alex seats himself, mournfully checks his fitbit, glumly crosses his

0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:50.280
<v Speaker 2>legs with woe and uncrosses them with even more woe.

0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.560
<v Speaker 4>Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, can you turn me up a

0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.040
<v Speaker 4>little teeny bit? Hello?

0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.440
<v Speaker 2>There we go in spite of his gimblet media stock

0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:02.400
<v Speaker 2>options and buns of stainless Steele. At the moment, Alex

0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Bloomberg is the saddest CEO this gimlet media reporter has

0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:10.919
<v Speaker 2>ever seen. And I am concerned because not only is

0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Bloomberg my boss, he's also one of my oldest friends.

0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.040
<v Speaker 2>In his hands, he holds a pile of audio cassettes,

0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.040
<v Speaker 2>the old kind they had back in Shakespeare days.

0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:29.840
<v Speaker 4>Yes, Alicia Margaret, one of our friends from back in

0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:31.720
<v Speaker 4>the day ceremony French.

0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Alex reads the labels on the cassette boxes and stacks

0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:36.520
<v Speaker 2>each one on the table.

0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.120
<v Speaker 4>I hate looking at them. I got to cover the up.

0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, do you want to why on them or something?

0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:49.200
<v Speaker 4>But if my hat over them.

0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Put your hat.

0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.040
<v Speaker 2>Why is looking at these audio cassettes causing you such

0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.480
<v Speaker 2>uh such royals in the kishkas.

0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:03.079
<v Speaker 4>Well, they represent like a like sort of my longest

0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.800
<v Speaker 4>standing broken promise in my life. I think.

0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Alex leans back and recounts to me a story that

0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.680
<v Speaker 2>begins in the roaring nineties, a care free time when

0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:17.120
<v Speaker 2>there wasn't a Juno Award Alanis Morissett couldn't win, or

0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:22.680
<v Speaker 2>a lunchable George foreman couldn't grill back then. When Alex

0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:26.040
<v Speaker 2>and I first met, he wasn't a CEO, nor even

0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:29.440
<v Speaker 2>a founder. He was just a producer, same as me,

0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.600
<v Speaker 2>and the thing we produced was a program called This

0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:39.360
<v Speaker 2>American Life. The program told the tales typical Americans tell,

0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.640
<v Speaker 2>like how your dad raised you in a tree or

0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:47.320
<v Speaker 2>how your dad owned Hitler's yacht. When I, a Canadian,

0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:51.200
<v Speaker 2>was first hired, Alex took me under his wing, mentoring

0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:54.040
<v Speaker 2>me in the ways of America, teaching me what kind

0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:58.160
<v Speaker 2>of speedo to wear, American flag, kind, which parent to

0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:04.080
<v Speaker 2>favor mom, and what pie to eat apple. He taught

0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.680
<v Speaker 2>me small things like how one does not pee in

0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.240
<v Speaker 2>the office water fountain, but rather drinks from it, and

0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.240
<v Speaker 2>he taught me big things, like how to tell an

0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:17.880
<v Speaker 2>American story. Whereas a Canadian story usually ended with the

0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:22.440
<v Speaker 2>hero immigrating to America, an American story ended only once

0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:27.000
<v Speaker 2>the hero underwent a transformation that totally nobody saw coming.

0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.039
<v Speaker 2>At the end of a long day's work. While I

0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.640
<v Speaker 2>would get together with a bag of Mexican takeout and

0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:39.520
<v Speaker 2>a box of cable TV, Alex would get together with friends.

0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:40.880
<v Speaker 4>And we did all these things together. We would cook

0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:44.000
<v Speaker 4>meals together. We would like play weekly basketball games together,

0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.479
<v Speaker 4>and like that was my like you know, like my

0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.200
<v Speaker 4>post collegiate early twenties friend family.

0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:55.200
<v Speaker 2>And central to this friend family were two roommates, Lars

0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:56.039
<v Speaker 2>and Kittie.

0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.520
<v Speaker 4>There were just purely roommates, and like in the beginning,

0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.960
<v Speaker 4>you would never put them together. They seemed like complete opposites.

0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.520
<v Speaker 4>But then they started dating and that seemed like a

0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.440
<v Speaker 4>horrible idea because their roommates, and it seemed like I

0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:11.200
<v Speaker 4>was just going to end You're just horribly for.

0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Probably Lars. Even Lars couldn't quite understand what exactly Kitty

0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.880
<v Speaker 2>saw on him. She was put together, college educated and

0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:24.280
<v Speaker 2>on a promising career path. Lars, on the other hand,

0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.280
<v Speaker 2>was a high school dropout, a sort of bumbling genius

0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.440
<v Speaker 2>who just couldn't find his way. Alex likes to tell

0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.720
<v Speaker 2>the story of how Lars was smart enough to make

0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:36.040
<v Speaker 2>it onto Jeopardy, but then once on the show, couldn't

0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:40.119
<v Speaker 2>figure out how to get his buzzer to work. Alex

0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.760
<v Speaker 2>saw himself and Lars he was also someone with a

0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of potential who couldn't quite get it together. At

0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.119
<v Speaker 2>the time that they'd met, Alex was a middle school

0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.600
<v Speaker 2>teacher with dreams of making radio stories, and Lars was

0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:55.400
<v Speaker 2>reading presidential biographies in the unheated attic in which he dwelled.

0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.560
<v Speaker 2>So when Lars started dating Kitty, Alex worried for Lars's

0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.680
<v Speaker 2>broken heart like he would have for his own. But

0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.960
<v Speaker 2>to the surprise of Lars, Alex and their whole friend family,

0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.679
<v Speaker 2>the relationship didn't end horribly at all. Lars and Kitty

0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:13.800
<v Speaker 2>dated for four years and then decided to get married.

0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:21.200
<v Speaker 2>The plan was to throw a week long party in

0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.599
<v Speaker 2>the country, not just to celebrate their marriage, but to

0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:29.560
<v Speaker 2>celebrate the friends themselves. Each member had a role to play. Shane,

0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:33.320
<v Speaker 2>the one with all the CDs with DJ Dave, the

0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.880
<v Speaker 2>one who had away with words, would officiate. And since

0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.880
<v Speaker 2>they didn't have a videographer friend to make a wedding video,

0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:44.359
<v Speaker 2>they approached their radio producer friend to make a wedding audio.

0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.279
<v Speaker 4>They were like, we're not going to have a photographer

0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.920
<v Speaker 4>out there, but what we'd love for you to do

0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:53.160
<v Speaker 4>is can you do like the sort of audio collage

0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.840
<v Speaker 4>of our wedding for us? And I was like absolutely,

0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:02.120
<v Speaker 4>And I recorded the ceremony and everything, interviewed all these

0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:07.120
<v Speaker 4>people and then I never put it together.

0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:17.400
<v Speaker 2>And thus Alex Bloomberg sits before me sixteen years later,

0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:22.560
<v Speaker 2>with six cassette tapes representing hours and hours of unedited, unmixed,

0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:27.760
<v Speaker 2>unlistened to audio, stacked beneath a Gimblet Media branded Woolen hat.

0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:34.520
<v Speaker 4>It's like I took a whole photo album full of

0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.040
<v Speaker 4>photographs of their wedding and then just never developed them

0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:42.200
<v Speaker 4>and never gave them to them.

0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Alex explains it this way. After a twelve hour day

0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.880
<v Speaker 2>of editing tape recordings at This American Life, the last

0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:50.960
<v Speaker 2>thing he felt like doing when he got home was

0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.520
<v Speaker 2>editing more tape. Alex had every intention of keeping his

0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:58.120
<v Speaker 2>promise to Lars, but then he got married, had kids,

0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:03.680
<v Speaker 2>started a company. Life got in the way, and so

0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Lars and Kitty have no record of their ceremony, their toasts,

0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:12.920
<v Speaker 2>their ideas, their heroic transformation into a married couple, a transformation,

0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.760
<v Speaker 2>by the way, that totally nobody saw coming. Lars was

0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Alex's closest friend, always there for him, and Alex knew

0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.640
<v Speaker 2>he had let him down. Neither Lars nor Kitty ever

0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.440
<v Speaker 2>confronted Alex, but that only made things worse.

0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:30.920
<v Speaker 4>You just get in this like reciprocal echo chamber of emotion,

0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.280
<v Speaker 4>right where like I feel bad, they know I'm feeling bad,

0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.360
<v Speaker 4>and then they feel bad because they've they put me

0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:37.240
<v Speaker 4>in the position where I'm feeling bad, and so it's

0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.400
<v Speaker 4>just this whole like it's this whole chain reaction of

0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.040
<v Speaker 4>like feelings that nobody can talk about because talking about

0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:43.800
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't do anything.

0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Over the course of sixteen years, Alex has moved six times,

0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.679
<v Speaker 2>from city to city and apartment to apartment, but all

0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.240
<v Speaker 2>the while, the wedding tapes remain in the same box,

0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:58.840
<v Speaker 2>in the same spot, right next to Alex's own wedding album.

0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.400
<v Speaker 4>Every time I look at our photo album, which is

0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.720
<v Speaker 4>fairly regular, especially like you, you know, everyone said like

0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.440
<v Speaker 4>on your anniversary. Sometimes you pull it out and then

0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:09.040
<v Speaker 4>the kids come along and then you're like, this is

0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:10.480
<v Speaker 4>me and Mommy when we got married, and it's like

0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.680
<v Speaker 4>sort of like I bring out the photo album with

0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:17.480
<v Speaker 4>some regularity, and every time I do, I think of

0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.320
<v Speaker 4>Lars and Kitty and how they don't have this and

0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.160
<v Speaker 4>how I was supposed to provide it and how I didn't.

0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:24.800
<v Speaker 4>I keep telling myself, well, I am going to get

0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:26.760
<v Speaker 4>to it one day, and that's why I cart them around.

0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:28.240
<v Speaker 4>It's like, I'm going to get to it one day.

0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to like, one day, I'm gonna sit down

0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:33.360
<v Speaker 4>and actually make good. And what I realized is I

0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.880
<v Speaker 4>don't that's I don't think that's going to happen unless

0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.920
<v Speaker 4>I have some help. That's where you come in.

0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I see, And this is what has brought the

0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Great Alex Bloomberg crawling on his metaphorical hands and his

0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:53.679
<v Speaker 2>metaphorical knees into the studio. Lars and Kitty now live

0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.120
<v Speaker 2>in Vermont, but it turns out that they're planning a

0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:58.360
<v Speaker 2>visit to Gimblet in the spring to see what their

0:09:58.360 --> 0:09:59.440
<v Speaker 2>old friend's been up to.

0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.040
<v Speaker 4>Could you help me make this for them?

0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I like the sound of that.

0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Could you just say it again and get closer to

0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:10.840
<v Speaker 2>the microphone so it feels like you're whispering.

0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:10.920
<v Speaker 1>In my ear.

0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:11.560
<v Speaker 5>Job.

0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:13.120
<v Speaker 6>I need your help.

0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Could you call me godfather? Come on, don't make me

0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.760
<v Speaker 2>play all right? Of course, yes, I'm gonna help you.

0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Alex had really stepped in the oatmeal on this one,

0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.199
<v Speaker 2>and it was now left to me to pry his

0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:34.440
<v Speaker 2>fringe tassel jogging shoe loose from the bowl for however

0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.360
<v Speaker 2>many weeks it took I would help the humble CEO

0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:41.680
<v Speaker 2>to mix, edit, and generally sculpt his ignominious tape recordings

0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.840
<v Speaker 2>into a solid, th react narrative that really made you

0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.600
<v Speaker 2>feel something, just like we did back when we were

0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:51.800
<v Speaker 2>young producers working side by side. Alex had done so

0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:55.520
<v Speaker 2>much for me job, health insurance, public platform to air

0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:59.680
<v Speaker 2>my grievances mostly about him. I was grateful to finally

0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:03.120
<v Speaker 2>offer something in return, and best of all, for the

0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.440
<v Speaker 2>first time in a long time, it felt like we

0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:09.680
<v Speaker 2>weren't simply relating as CEO and Lackey, but as actual friends.

0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.920
<v Speaker 2>And if I wasn't mistaken, Alex was feeling the vibe too.

0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Are you crying? No, you're crying.

0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I reach over and with the tip of my knuckle

0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:25.080
<v Speaker 2>tenderly shmear away a single tear streaming down the proud

0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:26.240
<v Speaker 2>CEO's cheek.

0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:27.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm not crying.

0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Could you cry? I'm hoping to get a peabody out

0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:32.560
<v Speaker 1>of this. Some tears when hurt.

0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Most importantly, here, where are we going to put the

0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:42.520
<v Speaker 2>mid roll advertisement in the wedding audio?

0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:42.840
<v Speaker 7>Like?

0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking between the vows, will she say I do?

0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Or will it be a big fat, I don't. Right

0:11:51.320 --> 0:12:08.840
<v Speaker 2>after the break, we find out.

0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:04.880
<v Speaker 4>Here are these are notes?

0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.280
<v Speaker 2>They are I don't know about that other stuff? Are

0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:09.240
<v Speaker 2>those also my notes?

0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:10.960
<v Speaker 1>You think people have been looking at my notes?

0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I've assembled a crack production team consisting of me and

0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:18.400
<v Speaker 2>my producer, Stevie Lane, who, fun fact, was still in

0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:22.160
<v Speaker 2>grade school when Alex's wedding tapes were recorded. I've asked

0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:25.240
<v Speaker 2>Stevie to manage the production of the wedding documentary, the

0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:29.560
<v Speaker 2>listening and transcribing, the splicing anecdotes together, the adding of

0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:33.520
<v Speaker 2>emotionally manipulative music, thus freeing me up to handle more

0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:41.160
<v Speaker 2>pressing matters like subtweeting my dry cleaner as we await

0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Alex's arrival, I impart to Stevie lessons gleaned for my

0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:50.240
<v Speaker 2>decades of living and loving a lifetime lived in radio Okay.

0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:54.480
<v Speaker 2>First of all, sound travels and waves. Did they teach

0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.920
<v Speaker 2>you that at radio school? At radio school, sound travels

0:12:57.920 --> 0:12:59.360
<v Speaker 2>and do you know? I once to try to build

0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:03.000
<v Speaker 2>a radio kiss Stevie, who at the moment is nodding

0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.480
<v Speaker 2>her head in much the way a hospice nurse would

0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:09.800
<v Speaker 2>to an incoherently death gurgling more Abundanty has converted Alex's

0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:15.400
<v Speaker 2>cassette tapes of Shame into digital audio files of Shame progress.

0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.320
<v Speaker 2>All that's missing is Alex, who's agreed to listen to

0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:28.720
<v Speaker 2>and opine on our first rough draft. Should I slack him?

0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.920
<v Speaker 2>We send Alex an interoffice communic.

0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:31.120
<v Speaker 7>Kay.

0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.320
<v Speaker 2>It turns out he's stuck in a board member's meeting

0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.840
<v Speaker 2>as we wait. I tell Stevie what Alex was like

0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:41.320
<v Speaker 2>when he was a young producer like her. Every day

0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.240
<v Speaker 2>he rollerbladed to work, I say, and instead of a

0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:48.240
<v Speaker 2>desk chair, he sat on a yoga ball. I was

0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.760
<v Speaker 2>getting excited. Alex and I hadn't spent time together on

0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.079
<v Speaker 2>a creative project since the olden days before he became

0:13:55.160 --> 0:14:00.440
<v Speaker 2>my dungeon master. Do you know that song out eating

0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Cake by the Lake? Now we're gonna eat cake by

0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:11.280
<v Speaker 2>the Lake? Oh it's a scream, Hey Alex, Hello, Alex

0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:11.800
<v Speaker 2>is here.

0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:13.839
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to my editing day.

0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:14.440
<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Alex takes a seat and we get down to business.

0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.800
<v Speaker 4>Hello Hello one, two and two and two and too

0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:24.240
<v Speaker 4>and too.

0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.440
<v Speaker 2>The tapes begin with a young, squeaky voice Alex Bloomberg

0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:29.880
<v Speaker 2>at Lars and Kitty's wedding.

0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.560
<v Speaker 4>Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Hello.

0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:38.280
<v Speaker 2>That's once he checks his equipment, Alex sets off to

0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.280
<v Speaker 2>ask all the friends for their most classic Lars stories.

0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:43.960
<v Speaker 3>You know that as a kid, he looks through the

0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Guinness Book of World Records and decided that the only

0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.080
<v Speaker 3>category he could ever compete in would be to become

0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.360
<v Speaker 3>the fattest man in the world, because he could just

0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.760
<v Speaker 3>eat and eat and eat.

0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Their buddy Dave explains Hilars used to drive without brakes,

0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.560
<v Speaker 2>arguing that it forced him to sharpen his foot and

0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:04.440
<v Speaker 2>thus make him a safer driver. William explains how, in

0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:08.120
<v Speaker 2>preparation for playing Capture the Flag in Central Park, Lars

0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:13.360
<v Speaker 2>went to the Parks Department in order to research topographical maps. Eventually,

0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Alex turns the microphone on himself and in an excited,

0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:21.280
<v Speaker 2>barely pubescent voice, tells a tale of rollerblading with Lars

0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:23.920
<v Speaker 2>very slowly down a steep hill.

0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.360
<v Speaker 4>At a certain point, I'm going down, and then I

0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.440
<v Speaker 4>turn around and he's zooms by me, straight down with

0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:32.600
<v Speaker 4>his arms out in front of him. And so Lars

0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:34.200
<v Speaker 4>is going down and I'm just watching him go. He's

0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.480
<v Speaker 4>getting swann small and small and heading straight towards his

0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.640
<v Speaker 4>house and it is faster and faster and faster.

0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.840
<v Speaker 2>As old man Bloomberg listens to young man Bloomberg, his

0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:45.880
<v Speaker 2>face takes on a far away look.

0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:50.280
<v Speaker 4>And then he comes and he goes boop right into

0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:51.160
<v Speaker 4>the garage door with.

0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.760
<v Speaker 8>His hands and then his face and I.

0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.160
<v Speaker 4>And so I sort of skate down faster and I

0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:02.040
<v Speaker 4>get to the bottom, and he turns around and he's like,

0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:05.080
<v Speaker 4>I know that looks really painful, but that's how I stop.

0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:16.960
<v Speaker 2>All the time. Alex sits quietly, the distance between the

0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.680
<v Speaker 2>past and present hitting him in the face like a

0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:20.480
<v Speaker 2>garage door.

0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:26.800
<v Speaker 4>It's so interesting. They're just hearing like I my friends

0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:30.160
<v Speaker 4>were such a huge part of my life back then

0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:35.680
<v Speaker 4>in a way that that they're not now. You don't

0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.600
<v Speaker 4>have a family, and like it's a lot of there's

0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:40.600
<v Speaker 4>just a lot of hanging out and a lot of

0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:47.280
<v Speaker 4>talk and planning, and it feels like now that feels

0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:51.280
<v Speaker 4>like such a in my mind. I'm just like, oh,

0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:58.880
<v Speaker 4>like we sound so happy and care free.

0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.640
<v Speaker 2>The sound emanated from Alex's laptop is a message requesting

0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:03.440
<v Speaker 2>sales figures.

0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.400
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, hold on one second, I just have to.

0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember that you used to sit on a

0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:19.200
<v Speaker 2>yoga ball Pretty soon Alex is absorbed in spreadsheets open

0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:23.080
<v Speaker 2>across his desktop. Stevie puts on her headphones and gets

0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:26.040
<v Speaker 2>back to editing the tape while I sidle up closer

0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:29.760
<v Speaker 2>to Alex.

0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:31.520
<v Speaker 1>He used to sit on a yoga ball.

0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:36.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wanted Alex to remember the old times. How

0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.960
<v Speaker 2>much sitting in an editing bay like this once meant

0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:39.639
<v Speaker 2>to him.

0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.200
<v Speaker 1>A yoga ball. Yeah, yoga ball, you remember that, right?

0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that yoga ball is his rosebud. I believe that

0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.840
<v Speaker 2>if I could just get Alex to remember his yoga ball,

0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.639
<v Speaker 2>he'd regain his focus. You know the thing about a

0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.080
<v Speaker 2>yoga ball is it's one of the few objects that

0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:02.400
<v Speaker 2>you would find that has had buttocks touch every single

0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:08.240
<v Speaker 2>inch of its entire surface. Right, There's nothing else like

0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:09.040
<v Speaker 2>that in the world.

0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:12.879
<v Speaker 1>You're not even paying attention to me.

0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Alex is lost in a world of cumulative download numbers.

0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:23.400
<v Speaker 2>He gets up and without even saying goodbye, runs off

0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:24.919
<v Speaker 2>to see Jim in Finance.

0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.120
<v Speaker 4>Hello, I have you right here.

0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.159
<v Speaker 2>A few weeks later, the team reconvenes to listen to

0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.600
<v Speaker 2>the next draft of the wedding audio. Now that Stevie's

0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.760
<v Speaker 2>chosen the sounds and stories, we wanted. We needed to

0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:43.440
<v Speaker 2>strategize on how to string it all together. For inspiration,

0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I've asked Stevie to cue up various documentaries, documentaries, rockumentaries,

0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:52.280
<v Speaker 2>and shcumentaries. We begin with the Slice of Life Fly

0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:56.520
<v Speaker 2>on the Wall, arguably boring work of acclaimed American documentarian

0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:00.399
<v Speaker 2>Frederick Wiseman. What do you mean you can't take dressed

0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:00.879
<v Speaker 2>in the morning?

0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:02.879
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, do you get undressed?

0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, you can get into.

0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:04.760
<v Speaker 1>A gym out of it.

0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:05.360
<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.560
<v Speaker 2>I prefer a more very tay style. I don't know

0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.639
<v Speaker 2>about you. I come from the like the Wiseman school.

0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:16.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking like, no scoring music, no narration.

0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.840
<v Speaker 4>Wait, don't you have a narration on the show Heavyweight?

0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:21.200
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:21.480
<v Speaker 11>I do.

0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.159
<v Speaker 2>But this is gonna be this is gonna be a

0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:24.600
<v Speaker 2>little bit of yeah, I guess I do.

0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:25.560
<v Speaker 1>It is true.

0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:27.960
<v Speaker 4>That doesn't seem very Wiseman school.

0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm happy to learn that Alex actually listens to

0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.720
<v Speaker 2>my podcast. I'm not so sure I like his tone.

0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.280
<v Speaker 4>So it's pretty heavily narrated. Actually, there's pretty much nothing

0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:39.120
<v Speaker 4>verite about it.

0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, narration can be a helpful way to convey information economically,

0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:47.080
<v Speaker 2>it can also potentially eclipse the voice of the subject

0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:49.040
<v Speaker 2>him or herself.

0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.120
<v Speaker 4>A wise man, sir, But.

0:19:53.119 --> 0:20:04.040
<v Speaker 2>In some situations a little eclipsing isn't so bad. I

0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:07.360
<v Speaker 2>want to show that town. I wanted to show it to.

0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:09.119
<v Speaker 8>Do.

0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.600
<v Speaker 2>As Stevie continues to work on the mix, Alex and

0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I watch the Maisley's Brother's Gray Gardens and argue over

0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:22.120
<v Speaker 2>who our favorite Maisley's brother is. Alex, Albert, me David.

0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:27.280
<v Speaker 2>Just as things are getting heated, Alex's phone rings. It's

0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:29.040
<v Speaker 2>his wife, Nose and Nan.

0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:38.359
<v Speaker 4>Shoot, sorry, hold on, Hello, Hey, I'm gonna leave right after.

0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:42.399
<v Speaker 1>Hey, can I sorry? Can I take Can I take that?

0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:44.200
<v Speaker 4>Hold one? Take it?

0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Hey?

0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Nas?

0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Alex is going to be home late tonight. We've

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:50.080
<v Speaker 1>got a lot to do here.

0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:52.080
<v Speaker 2>But no, no, it's totally cool that you're calling in it.

0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you should just text or something because it gets

0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:59.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, he gets distracted easily, so Alex grabs the

0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:03.520
<v Speaker 2>phone back and apologizes for my interruption. He says he's

0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:06.640
<v Speaker 2>on his way home for the kid's bedtime, and with that,

0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Alex Bloomberg has left the studio. In the weeks to follow,

0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:21.320
<v Speaker 2>Alex can hardly find time to work on the wedding audio,

0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:31.080
<v Speaker 2>and when we do get together, his mind is elsewhere. Okay. Sorry.

0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:35.760
<v Speaker 2>The irony is that Alex loved radio production so much

0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:38.919
<v Speaker 2>he built a whole company out of that passion. But

0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:41.720
<v Speaker 2>now the time it takes to actually run the company

0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:45.800
<v Speaker 2>makes doing the thing he loved most almost impossible. One

0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:48.119
<v Speaker 2>of the drags of being a CEO, Alex tells me,

0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:51.120
<v Speaker 2>is there's always so much to get done.

0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:55.520
<v Speaker 1>What does a CEO do?

0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:59.080
<v Speaker 4>You know? Run the shit?

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Just as I thought, nothing. All right, let's get to work.

0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:10.200
<v Speaker 8>But then, but then, but then, but then, but then.

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:14.879
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Goldstein begins to operate, carefully, executing an extremely tricky

0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.919
<v Speaker 2>edit that involves cutting out in Aaron Turp between the

0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:19.520
<v Speaker 2>words but and.

0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:22.560
<v Speaker 8>Then but then but then but then.

0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:25.560
<v Speaker 2>But then then we're interrupted yet again, and then, this

0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:32.840
<v Speaker 2>time by Alex's executive assistant. But yeah, you're gonna have

0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:34.320
<v Speaker 2>to tell You're gonna have to tell him that he's

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:34.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna be late.

0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:44.840
<v Speaker 8>I gotta go, but then but then, but then, but then.

0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:47.520
<v Speaker 1>It's very rhythmic, but then but then it sounds like

0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:48.320
<v Speaker 1>techno music.

0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:53.119
<v Speaker 11>But but then but then but then but then but

0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:58.199
<v Speaker 11>then but then but then but then but then but

0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:01.720
<v Speaker 11>then but then but then but then.

0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:05.280
<v Speaker 2>But then then in the weeks to follow, Stevie and

0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:08.560
<v Speaker 2>I spend a lot of time waiting for Alex. Sometimes

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:12.359
<v Speaker 2>he makes an appearance, but mostly he doesn't. All the

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.880
<v Speaker 2>while the work continues, by which I mean Stevie's work

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 2>and my editorial oversight.

0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 3>You all know that Kitty and Lars had an accelerated

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:22.640
<v Speaker 3>And someone say.

0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you know when I was younger, I always wanted

0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:25.960
<v Speaker 1>to have a rat tail.

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh like the hairstyle. Yeah, I didn't have the stick

0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:33.359
<v Speaker 2>to itness.

0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the same tube.

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Together. Stevie and I tirelessly pour over the tape day

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 2>after day. You know, I've always related to Charlie Brown

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 2>in a lot of ways. Did you know that his

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:56.720
<v Speaker 2>dad was a barber?

0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't that. Do you see why that would be ironic?

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Appreciate the Stevie proves to be just as attentive as

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Alex ever was. It feels just like old times. Think

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 2>about it. His son's bald. Charlie Brown is bald. He

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:16.280
<v Speaker 2>has no hair all right, Or you.

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Might have read something into the fact that Lars found

0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 3>himself getting up early in the morning.

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:23.000
<v Speaker 2>There's only two weeks to go before Lars and Kitties visit,

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:26.359
<v Speaker 2>and we've barely started on the will use much less

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 2>the I do's if we hope to produce one of

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 2>the greatest documentaries of all time, something to make March

0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:35.880
<v Speaker 2>of the Penguins look like March of the Garbage, We're

0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:39.040
<v Speaker 2>going to have to work twice as fast, then then

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 2>with three times as fast, then with possibly four times

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 2>as fast. Then the results after the break your break,

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 2>because Stevie and I we don't get a break. We

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of work to get done.

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So here we go.

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 2>After weeks of Stevie's hard work editing audio and avoiding

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 2>my editorial guidance, the day is finally here. In spite

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 2>of Alex's busy schedule and in spite of my enthusiastic

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 2>but generally unhelpful brand of helpfulness, Stevie has managed to

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:28.640
<v Speaker 2>turn hours and hours of drunk people sharing anecdotes from

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 2>before she was born into an audio documentary. Lars and

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.359
<v Speaker 2>Kitty are scheduled to arrive at Gimblet any moment, and

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 2>they haven't a clue that when they do, they'll be

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 2>presented with the wedding audio they've been waiting sixteen years

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:45.679
<v Speaker 2>to hear. Alex paces the halls of Gimblet Media.

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm really nervous, weirdly, and then.

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 5>Hello.

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Lars and Kitty arrive with their two kids, Nora and Oscar. Hey,

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 2>how's it going?

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 4>How was the Yankees?

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 2>What happened?

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 5>Oscar?

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:14.920
<v Speaker 10>Yankees are losing three.

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Alex says that one of the things that makes them

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:20.439
<v Speaker 2>happiest about hanging out with Lars nowadays is seeing the

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 2>transition he's made from ne'er do well to wonderful dad.

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 2>In fact, just earlier, in anticipation of Lars's arrival, Alex

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 2>told me about this one Lars parenting moment that's always

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.919
<v Speaker 2>stuck with him. It took place at Alex's outdoor wedding.

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Four year old Nora was standing by a swimming pool

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.120
<v Speaker 2>that had a no jumping sign, but when a large

0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 2>bearded man jumped in anyway, Nora asked Lars if she

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 2>could jump in too.

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 4>And Lars was like, well, some people make the choice

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 4>to break the rules. They some people think that rules

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 4>don't apply to them, and do you know what we

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.200
<v Speaker 4>call those people? And she was and she was like no,

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:02.160
<v Speaker 4>and he was like, we call the anarchists. And then

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 4>Lars was like, who else do we know that's an anarchist?

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 4>And Norah thought for a little bit and she was

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 4>like grandma. And I was like that was so perfect

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 4>because it took this moment that was inherently a power

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:20.360
<v Speaker 4>struggle and it made it into sort of like both

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:22.920
<v Speaker 4>a learning moment and a choice that she was now

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 4>capable of making, like do you want to be in

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 4>this camp or this camp?

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 5>Votes is pretty cool.

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Nora was just a toddler back then. She's now sixteen

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:39.159
<v Speaker 2>and her younger brother, Oscar is ten. Alex proceeds to

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:42.640
<v Speaker 2>show them around the office, so this is.

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:46.880
<v Speaker 4>Like that's sales, that's like the development team. Oh that's

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 4>Hogy you guys, Yeah, yeah, do you know Hora? Hey

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 4>you want to go say hi?

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The tour makes a pit stop to introduce Gimblet

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:57.919
<v Speaker 2>media editor Jorge just who at the moment is seated

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 2>atop my desk, touching on my things. It turns out

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 2>that Lars has already met Jorge, and so is Nora.

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.439
<v Speaker 5>You guys met when you were a foreign you were

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 5>an infants at Alex's wedding.

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Lars explains how his daughter might best remember

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 2>the podcast editor. Turning to Jorge, Lars says.

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 5>You jumped in the pool that the.

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Large bearded cannonballing anarchist and Alex's favorite parenting story was

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 2>none other than America's favorite role model Porgey.

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 4>Just is he the one, yeah, yeah, who broke all

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 4>the rules.

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.479
<v Speaker 3>A very good life. Lesson, break all the rules at

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 3>somebody's wedding and they'll hire you, give you a job.

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 2>And with that, Jorge resumes his job of manhandling my

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 2>stress ball with extremely sticky hands, and Alex resumes this tour,

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>which Lars and Kitty think is just one of your

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:09.719
<v Speaker 2>standard garden variety office tours, but is actually a semi

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 2>carefully choreographed ruse to get them into a studio for

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 2>the surprise.

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 4>These are all the various shows.

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 12>I've been listening to a bunch.

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 8>Of your shows.

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 4>Which ones you listen to? Crimetown?

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 2>I really liked Homecoming?

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 4>I liked Do you like Heavyweight?

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Liking Heavyweight is a key part of the plan.

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 4>I listen to Heavyweight?

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 8>Eh?

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Close enough? Alex points to the glass door of the

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 2>studio in which I'm seated.

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 4>That's stopping all you want to say?

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Hi, this is the most crucial part of the plan,

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Alex must lure the family into the studio with the

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 2>promise of meeting your humble host is Jonathan Kitty.

0:29:58.320 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we met prey many years ago.

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 9>Hi.

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Yeah, it's nice to see you.

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 6>Hi.

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 2>I remember Lars and Kitty from back in the day

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 2>picking up Alex at work to do cool young people

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 2>things that I don't recall being invited to. They're now

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 2>middle aged, like Alex, like me. Now that we're all

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 2>in the studio, Stevie sets the final piece of the

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 2>plan in motion, cool and casual, like.

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.479
<v Speaker 1>We should play them the thing we're we're going on.

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you guys want you haven't? Yeah? Okay, Lars, Kitty,

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Nora and Oscar all settle in.

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you ready.

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Welcome everybody. Welcome to the wedding of Kitty Wade Bartlett

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 3>and Christian Jacobson.

0:30:55.160 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Lars and Kitty's faces light up, so it's actually happening.

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm not surprised that Lars and Kitty quickly recognized the

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 2>promised wedding audio, but at just a few seconds in,

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm amazed at how quickly they recognize it.

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 5>Every time I come to see you, I'll visit New

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:16.959
<v Speaker 5>York every couple of years a year and hang out

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 5>with Alex and Kitty. I'll say, you know, and ask

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 5>him for the fucking tape. Yeah, we definitely always remembered that.

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Even their daughter Nora knows about Alex and the tapes.

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 10>I never really thought it was really gonna happen.

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Either, But what did What did you hear about it?

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 11>Well?

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 10>I heard that, yeah, that he came to the wedding

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 10>and interviewed all of your drunk family.

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Members and that you were terrified.

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 10>And then I said, well, I don't know if I

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 10>want to hear I've seen your family drunk.

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you're gonna You're gonna hear it now. Yeah, I'm excited.

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 4>It gives me a great pleasure to finally deliver the

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 4>thing I probably seventeen years.

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 2>This is really exciting.

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 4>So should we Let's do it.

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's get on with it. Okay, I have a go.

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is exciting.

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Stevie presses play.

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 3>Welcome everybody. Welcome to the wedding of Kitty Wade Bartlett

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 3>and Lars Christian Jacobson. This is going to be a

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 3>somewhat unconventional ceremony.

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 2>For the next hour, we all sit and listen. The

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 2>friends tell stories about Lars.

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 7>Lars and I had decided after a night of drinking

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 7>at four in the morning, we decided we were going

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 7>to do a triathlon together. And every time we would

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 7>meet to work out get in shape for the triathon,

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 7>we would end up drinking for eight or ten hours straight.

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 2>And the friends tell stories about Kitty.

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 6>When I was ten, she convinced me to wash the cat.

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 6>It's a bad, bad, bad idea, but it seemed like

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 6>the best idea.

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 2>And when I was fourteen, there's a lot of just

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:12.479
<v Speaker 2>hanging out that was perfect, remember, And then there are

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 2>the toasts.

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 13>And Lars has an amazing amount of love to give

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 13>and I've always known that, and Kitty, I'm just so

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 13>enthralled with the way that he has been able to

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 13>give this to you, and he does. And I can't

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 13>tell you how happy I am and how proud I

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 13>am of my brother.

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, as we all listen, Lars looks down at

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 2>his lap. Kitty listens with her eyes closed tight.

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 6>Kitty and I had this planet that we were just

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 6>going to grow old and have rocking chairs next to

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 6>each other, and we were going to grow old together

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 6>and cook wonderful meals, and share a house and just

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:54.719
<v Speaker 6>be old biddies and sit on our rocking chairs and

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 6>criticize everybody.

0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 2>As we grow up, the friends we once sat around

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 2>plotting our futures with become the friends who, once that

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 2>future comes, we only end up seeing once a year.

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.439
<v Speaker 2>The friend we saw Patch Adams with becomes the friend

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 2>who picks us up from the hospital. The couple who

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 2>introduced us to our girlfriend become the ones who weren't

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 2>there for us after the divorce. Disappointment and self recrimination

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 2>pile up, but so do shared history and love, and

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:26.800
<v Speaker 2>so the friend who broke his promise.

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 8>And he goes.

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 4>Right into the garage.

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Becomes the friend who makes it right. How many When

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 2>we first sat down, everyone was focused on the gesture.

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 2>After sixteen years, Lars and Kitty were finally getting their

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 2>wedding audio. But once the gesture had been made and

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 2>the excitement had faded, they were left with something else altogether,

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 2>the time machine.

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Kiddy, do you wish to take this man as your husband,

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 3>to have holden bear all times and all things great

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 3>and small, for all the days of your life? I do, Lars,

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:10.280
<v Speaker 3>do you wish to take this woman as your wife,

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 3>to have hold in bear through all times and all

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 3>things great and small, for all the days of your life.

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:19.359
<v Speaker 1>I do, can I have the rinks.

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 2>At the end of the ceremony, the officiant issues a

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 2>final request.

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Lars and Kitty have organized this ceremony today because they

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 3>want this to be a shared moment, our page in

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 3>our communal memory. With the corner folded over, I'd actually

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 3>like to pause here for a few seconds so that

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 3>everyone can fix this time in their minds and maybe

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 3>offer whatever silent blessings they want.

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 2>We listen to the silence in silence. For Kitty and Lars,

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 2>the silence back then was meant to keep them in

0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 2>the present, two people suspended in a singular moment, just

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.720
<v Speaker 2>having made a promise to each other, but before spending

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 2>the rest of their lives trying to keep it. The

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 2>silence says, Lars and Kitty sit in the room today

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 2>with their two children, and their old friend is taking

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 2>them back to the past, reminding them of who they

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:21.240
<v Speaker 2>were and who was with them. Lars rests his hand

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 2>against his face. Kitty has a quiet smile.

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 13>I love you, I love you.

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 2>The wedding audio comes to a close. No one really

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 2>knows what to say. A situation that's never stopped this guy.

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>That's the wedding.

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 5>I do have a lot of love to give.

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 2>He's right, and uh, yeah, that's what.

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:07.240
<v Speaker 5>But it made perfect sense, like, yeah, that's why Kitty

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 5>loves me. That's why, Like, oh, that's what I have

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:12.240
<v Speaker 5>to offer Kitty.

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad.

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean from the outside, like I ever, you

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 5>can see what you know she brings to me, to her.

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:24.399
<v Speaker 5>But I sincerely have a lot of love to get.

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 5>I always know it's good for me. It was nice

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:28.439
<v Speaker 5>that it was good for you too.

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, those friends and that that time it was it

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:41.840
<v Speaker 12>was such a great time and it just kind of,

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.359
<v Speaker 12>I don't know, waiting for it seventeen years makes it

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 12>that much sweeter.

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the other thing, though, are you taking so long?

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 5>Is that when I knew when we did hear it

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 5>it would be.

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Longer because it's been.

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 4>It's surprising, you know what was surprising?

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, just so.

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 5>How things really haven't changed that much?

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 4>Have things not changed?

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:13.359
<v Speaker 2>This catches Alex everything that surrounds him. The equipment, the employees,

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 2>the studio were packed into, and the building were in

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 2>it all serves to remind him of just how much

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 2>has changed. But Lars is talking about something else.

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 5>Not to sound corny, but I still feel the same way.

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 5>I feel like the emotions are still completely familiar.

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:30.240
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 4>Do you still feel the same way about Lars as

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 4>you did back then?

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I actually do.

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 12>I mean I still love him for all the same reasons.

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 2>Lars says that he and Kitty always somehow knew that

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Alex would never abandon the project completely. It just wasn't

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 2>in keeping with Alex's character or his capacity for guilt.

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 5>And I kind of felt once you started Gimblet like

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:07.279
<v Speaker 5>there's no way because it's hard for me to see

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 5>you have a free time.

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 4>Well see now, actually what happened is the entire thing

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:13.320
<v Speaker 4>is all lated to this. Well, if I hadn't started

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:16.760
<v Speaker 4>Gimblet never would have happened.

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 2>If Alex hadn't started Gimblet, he wouldn't have had me

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:24.840
<v Speaker 2>to delegate to, and I wouldn't have had Stevie. So

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 2>is it not possible that the hand that signed the

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 2>papers incorporating Gimblet Media was subconsciously guided by a year's

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:37.840
<v Speaker 2>old promise seeking its fulfillment. Possibly, or maybe Alex just

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:41.240
<v Speaker 2>had a passion for boxed meals and mattresses delivered directly

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 2>to your doorstep, of which, no matter what your purchase,

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 2>please remember to use the offer code heavyweight.

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 5>It's really sweet. Thank you, I know, I mean thank you, Stevie.

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 5>It's a pleasure to meet you.

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:02.280
<v Speaker 2>I know, thank you, Steve.

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 1>You are my oldest friend.

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 5>Well, I feel like I need to know more about you,

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 5>because you know so much about us.

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 4>Here we go.

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:22.280
<v Speaker 2>After leaving the studio, Alex pops open a bottle of champagne.

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Unlike how we might usually drink bubbly from a trophy

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 2>cup or billionaire shoe, he drinks it from a Gimlet

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Media branded coffee cup. After all, he's among friends. Cheers, clars, Yeah,

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 2>getting the job done. After champagne, the heroes are complete.

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:54.319
<v Speaker 2>Alex heads to dinner with his friends, and although I'm

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:58.360
<v Speaker 2>not invited nor even thanked, I can tell Alex is grateful.

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Something in the way that he doesn't say goodbye or

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 2>even look at me that speaks of our friendship, a

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:08.560
<v Speaker 2>friendship with roots that extend through the floorboards, creep into

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:12.240
<v Speaker 2>the insulating asbestos, and down deep into the polluted earth

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:16.399
<v Speaker 2>of the Guanis Canal, the very foundational sludge upon which

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Gimblet Media was founded. Later, Alex will tell me how

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 2>it was the first time he'd been able to properly

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 2>digest a meal with Larsen Kittie in years. He'll tell

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:36.720
<v Speaker 2>me how they all went crazy and had two drinks

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 2>with dinner like they were celebrating. How they all lingered

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 2>longer than usual, just hanging out like they used to.

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 9>Now that the Fernitures returned into its goodwill home, now

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:33.400
<v Speaker 9>that the last month's rent is scheming with the damaged pos,

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 9>take this moment to dissolve, if we meant it, if

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 9>we turn.

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 3>We felt around from far too.

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:55.400
<v Speaker 2>From things that accidentally Talk. Heavyweight is hosted and produced

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:58.720
<v Speaker 2>by me Jonathan Goldstein, along with Peter Bresnan, Khila Holt,

0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 2>and Stevie Lane, who who if you do want to

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 2>know more about, enjoys eating pears, chewing on ice, and

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:07.800
<v Speaker 2>making jewelry that can be viewed at Stevielanejewelry dot com.

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 2>The show is edited by Jorgeus, with additional editing by

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:14.839
<v Speaker 2>Alex Bloomberg, who, on his show Without Fail this week,

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 2>interviews our mentor from wayback in Shakespeare Days, Ira Glass

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 2>and Ira confronts mister Bloomberg in a way I could

0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 2>only dream of. Are you so far down the road

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 2>of your venture capital?

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:27.920
<v Speaker 11>Like that?

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 4>If somebody leaves you, you have to crush them like

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 4>mister Burns.

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Special thanks to Emily Condon, Lynn Levy, Kimmi, Regular, Amanda Melhuish,

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Mia Bloomfield, Phoebe Flanagan, Jasmine Romero, Matthew boll and Jackie Cohen.

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Bobby Lord mixed the episode with music by Christine Fellows,

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Michael Hurst, Blue Dot Sessions, and he himself, Bobby Lord.

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Additional music credits can be found on our website Gimletmedia

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 2>dot com slash Heavyweight. Our theme song is by the

0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 2>weaker Lands courtesy of Epitaph Records, and our ad music

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 2>is by Hailey Shaw. Follow us on Twitter at Heavyweight.

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 2>This is our last episode of the season, but we're

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 2>already starting to look for stories for season four. So

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.799
<v Speaker 2>if you have one, email us at Heavyweight at gimltmedia

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:13.800
<v Speaker 2>dot com and if you see fit, why not punch

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 2>in some stars for us on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for listening. Okay,

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 2>hello hello. If we hope to produce one of the

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 2>greatest documentaries of all time. Something to make March of

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 2>the Penguins look like March of the Garbage. We're going

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 2>to have to work twice as fast sounds good. Actually,

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 2>wait here, let me let me, you know, let me

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 2>just try a few other ideas that I had, and

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 2>you could just pick whichever one you like best. Okay, here,

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 2>here we go. That'll make fog of War look like

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 2>fog of garbage, makes gimmey shelter look like gimmy garbage,

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 2>makes stop making sense look like stop making garbage, makes

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:13.919
<v Speaker 2>Jodowski's Dune look like dune, makes Harlan County, USA look

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:17.920
<v Speaker 2>like Garbage County, USA. Makes Nanuka the North look like

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Nanuka the Garbage. Makes kanyan a Squatzy look like garbage. Squatzy,

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 2>makes bowling for Columbine look like bowling for garbage, makes

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 2>the Queen of Versailles look like the Queen of garbage,

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 2>makes winged migration look like winged garbage, makes touching the

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 2>void look like touching the garbage, makes searching for Sugarman

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 2>look like searching for garbagemen. Makes an inconvenient sequel Truth

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:47.440
<v Speaker 2>to Power look like an inconvenient sequel truth to garbage

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 2>makes Gyro dreams of sushi look like Gyro dreams of garbage,

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 2>makes Paris is Burning look like garbage is burning, makes

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 2>American movie like American garbage, makes When We Were King

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:05.919
<v Speaker 2>looked like when we were garbage. That's a good one,

0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 2>makes supercise me look like supersized garbage, makes fire the

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 2>greatest party that never happened look like garbage. Fire the

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 2>greatest party that never happened.

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 9>Then