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Speaker 1: Hello, Jackie.

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Speaker 2: Hi, how are you good? How are you good?

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Speaker 1: I just got home?

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Speaker 2: Can you give me just the Liliputians? Real or not real?

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Speaker 2: Do you ever wish you could run like a cheetah?

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Speaker 2: Do you like cold play? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Can you let me ask some questions?

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Speaker 2: I have to go? What I have to go doesn't

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Speaker 2: feel so good when the when the shoe is on

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Speaker 2: the other foot doesn't. Why are you used to hanging

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Speaker 2: up on me and saying I have to go and

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: Actually, don't listen.

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Speaker 2: I gotta go though, I gotta I gotta go. No,

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Speaker 2: I gotta go. Okay, Byetta, I gotta go, Jackie. Rats

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Speaker 2: from Gimblet Media. I'm Jonathan Goldstein and this is Heavyweight

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Speaker 2: Today's episode.

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Speaker 1: Alex, Uh, how long I could do that?

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Speaker 2: Gimblet Media CEO Alex Bloomberg has asked that I meet

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Speaker 2: him in the studio. He's late.

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Speaker 1: Oh hey, Alex.

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Speaker 2: Alex seats himself, mournfully checks his fitbit, glumly crosses his

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Speaker 2: legs with woe and uncrosses them with even more woe.

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Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, can you turn me up a

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Speaker 4: little teeny bit? Hello?

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Speaker 2: There we go in spite of his gimblet media stock

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Speaker 2: options and buns of stainless Steele. At the moment, Alex

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Speaker 2: Bloomberg is the saddest CEO this gimlet media reporter has

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Speaker 2: ever seen. And I am concerned because not only is

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Speaker 2: Bloomberg my boss, he's also one of my oldest friends.

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Speaker 2: In his hands, he holds a pile of audio cassettes,

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Speaker 2: the old kind they had back in Shakespeare days.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Alicia Margaret, one of our friends from back in

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Speaker 4: the day ceremony French.

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Speaker 2: Alex reads the labels on the cassette boxes and stacks

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Speaker 2: each one on the table.

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Speaker 4: I hate looking at them. I got to cover the up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you want to why on them or something?

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Speaker 4: But if my hat over them.

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Speaker 1: Put your hat.

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Speaker 2: Why is looking at these audio cassettes causing you such

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Speaker 2: uh such royals in the kishkas.

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Speaker 4: Well, they represent like a like sort of my longest

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Speaker 4: standing broken promise in my life. I think.

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Speaker 2: Alex leans back and recounts to me a story that

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Speaker 2: begins in the roaring nineties, a care free time when

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Speaker 2: there wasn't a Juno Award Alanis Morissett couldn't win, or

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Speaker 2: a lunchable George foreman couldn't grill back then. When Alex

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Speaker 2: and I first met, he wasn't a CEO, nor even

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Speaker 2: a founder. He was just a producer, same as me,

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Speaker 2: and the thing we produced was a program called This

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Speaker 2: American Life. The program told the tales typical Americans tell,

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Speaker 2: how your dad owned Hitler's yacht. When I, a Canadian,

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Speaker 2: was first hired, Alex took me under his wing, mentoring

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Speaker 2: me in the ways of America, teaching me what kind

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Speaker 2: he taught me big things, like how to tell an

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Speaker 2: the hero underwent a transformation that totally nobody saw coming.

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Speaker 2: At the end of a long day's work. While I

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Speaker 4: And we did all these things together. We would cook

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Speaker 4: post collegiate early twenties friend family.

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Speaker 2: And central to this friend family were two roommates, Lars

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Speaker 4: There were just purely roommates, and like in the beginning,

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Speaker 2: Probably Lars. Even Lars couldn't quite understand what exactly Kitty

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Speaker 2: So when Lars started dating Kitty, Alex worried for Lars's

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Speaker 2: the relationship didn't end horribly at all. Lars and Kitty

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Speaker 2: The plan was to throw a week long party in

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Speaker 2: celebrate the friends themselves. Each member had a role to play. Shane,

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Speaker 2: they didn't have a videographer friend to make a wedding video,

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Speaker 2: they approached their radio producer friend to make a wedding audio.

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Speaker 4: They were like, we're not going to have a photographer

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Speaker 4: of our wedding for us? And I was like absolutely,

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Speaker 4: And I recorded the ceremony and everything, interviewed all these

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Speaker 2: And thus Alex Bloomberg sits before me sixteen years later,

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Speaker 2: with six cassette tapes representing hours and hours of unedited, unmixed,

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Speaker 2: unlistened to audio, stacked beneath a Gimblet Media branded Woolen hat.

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Speaker 4: It's like I took a whole photo album full of

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Speaker 2: Alex explains it this way. After a twelve hour day

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Speaker 2: of editing tape recordings at This American Life, the last

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Speaker 2: editing more tape. Alex had every intention of keeping his

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Speaker 2: Lars and Kitty have no record of their ceremony, their toasts,

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Speaker 2: their ideas, their heroic transformation into a married couple, a transformation,

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Speaker 2: by the way, that totally nobody saw coming. Lars was

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Speaker 2: Alex's closest friend, always there for him, and Alex knew

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Speaker 2: he had let him down. Neither Lars nor Kitty ever

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Speaker 4: You just get in this like reciprocal echo chamber of emotion,

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Speaker 4: right where like I feel bad, they know I'm feeling bad,

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Speaker 2: Over the course of sixteen years, Alex has moved six times,

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Speaker 2: from city to city and apartment to apartment, but all

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Speaker 2: the while, the wedding tapes remain in the same box,

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Speaker 2: in the same spot, right next to Alex's own wedding album.

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Speaker 4: Every time I look at our photo album, which is

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Speaker 4: fairly regular, especially like you, you know, everyone said like

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Speaker 4: some regularity, and every time I do, I think of

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Speaker 4: how I was supposed to provide it and how I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I keep telling myself, well, I am going to get

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Speaker 4: It's like, I'm going to get to it one day.

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Speaker 4: I have some help. That's where you come in.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I see, And this is what has brought the

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Speaker 2: Great Alex Bloomberg crawling on his metaphorical hands and his

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Speaker 2: metaphorical knees into the studio. Lars and Kitty now live

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Speaker 2: in Vermont, but it turns out that they're planning a

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Speaker 4: Could you help me make this for them?

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Speaker 1: I like the sound of that.

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Speaker 2: Could you just say it again and get closer to

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Speaker 2: the microphone so it feels like you're whispering.

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Speaker 1: In my ear.

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Speaker 5: Job.

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Speaker 6: I need your help.

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Speaker 2: Could you call me godfather? Come on, don't make me

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Speaker 2: play all right? Of course, yes, I'm gonna help you.

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Speaker 2: Alex had really stepped in the oatmeal on this one,

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Speaker 2: and it was now left to me to pry his

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Speaker 2: many weeks it took I would help the humble CEO

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Speaker 2: to mix, edit, and generally sculpt his ignominious tape recordings

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Speaker 2: into a solid, th react narrative that really made you

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Speaker 2: feel something, just like we did back when we were

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Speaker 2: young producers working side by side. Alex had done so

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Speaker 2: much for me job, health insurance, public platform to air

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Speaker 2: my grievances mostly about him. I was grateful to finally

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Speaker 2: first time in a long time, it felt like we

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Speaker 2: And if I wasn't mistaken, Alex was feeling the vibe too.

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Speaker 1: Are you crying? No, you're crying.

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Speaker 2: I reach over and with the tip of my knuckle

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Speaker 2: tenderly shmear away a single tear streaming down the proud

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Speaker 2: CEO's cheek.

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Speaker 4: I'm not crying.

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Speaker 1: Could you cry? I'm hoping to get a peabody out

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Speaker 1: of this. Some tears when hurt.

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Speaker 2: Most importantly, here, where are we going to put the

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Speaker 2: mid roll advertisement in the wedding audio?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking between the vows, will she say I do?

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Speaker 2: Or will it be a big fat, I don't. Right

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Speaker 2: after the break, we find out.

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Speaker 4: Here are these are notes?

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Speaker 2: They are I don't know about that other stuff? Are

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Speaker 2: those also my notes?

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Speaker 1: You think people have been looking at my notes?

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Speaker 2: I've assembled a crack production team consisting of me and

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Speaker 2: my producer, Stevie Lane, who, fun fact, was still in

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Speaker 2: grade school when Alex's wedding tapes were recorded. I've asked

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Speaker 2: Stevie to manage the production of the wedding documentary, the

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Speaker 2: listening and transcribing, the splicing anecdotes together, the adding of

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Speaker 2: emotionally manipulative music, thus freeing me up to handle more

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Speaker 2: pressing matters like subtweeting my dry cleaner as we await

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Speaker 2: Alex's arrival, I impart to Stevie lessons gleaned for my

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Speaker 2: decades of living and loving a lifetime lived in radio Okay.

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Speaker 2: First of all, sound travels and waves. Did they teach

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Speaker 2: you that at radio school? At radio school, sound travels

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Speaker 2: and do you know? I once to try to build

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Speaker 2: a radio kiss Stevie, who at the moment is nodding

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Speaker 2: her head in much the way a hospice nurse would

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Speaker 2: to an incoherently death gurgling more Abundanty has converted Alex's

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Speaker 2: cassette tapes of Shame into digital audio files of Shame progress.

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Speaker 2: All that's missing is Alex, who's agreed to listen to

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Speaker 2: and opine on our first rough draft. Should I slack him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted Alex to remember the old times. How

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Speaker 4: Hello, I have you right here.

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Speaker 2: I've asked Stevie to cue up various documentaries, documentaries, rockumentaries,

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Speaker 2: Frederick Wiseman. What do you mean you can't take dressed

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Speaker 2: Well, you can get into.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm happy to learn that Alex actually listens to

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Speaker 2: Well, narration can be a helpful way to convey information economically,

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Speaker 4: A wise man, sir, But.

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Speaker 2: In some situations a little eclipsing isn't so bad. I

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Speaker 2: Just as things are getting heated, Alex's phone rings. It's

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Speaker 4: Shoot, sorry, hold on, Hello, Hey, I'm gonna leave right after.

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Speaker 1: Hey, can I sorry? Can I take Can I take that?

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Speaker 4: Hold one? Take it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Alex is going to be home late tonight. We've

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Speaker 2: The irony is that Alex loved radio production so much

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Speaker 8: Then but then but then but then.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the same tube.

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Speaker 2: Together. Stevie and I tirelessly pour over the tape day

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Speaker 2: There's only two weeks to go before Lars and Kitties visit,

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Speaker 2: After weeks of Stevie's hard work editing audio and avoiding

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Speaker 2: that had a no jumping sign, but when a large

445
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: bearded man jumped in anyway, Nora asked Lars if she

446
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: could jump in too.

447
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 4: And Lars was like, well, some people make the choice

448
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 4: to break the rules. They some people think that rules

449
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 4: don't apply to them, and do you know what we

450
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 4: call those people? And she was and she was like no,

451
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 4: and he was like, we call the anarchists. And then

452
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 4: Lars was like, who else do we know that's an anarchist?

453
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 4: And Norah thought for a little bit and she was

454
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 4: like grandma. And I was like that was so perfect

455
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 4: because it took this moment that was inherently a power

456
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 4: struggle and it made it into sort of like both

457
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 4: a learning moment and a choice that she was now

458
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 4: capable of making, like do you want to be in

459
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 4: this camp or this camp?

460
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 7: Yeah?

461
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 5: Votes is pretty cool.

462
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: Nora was just a toddler back then. She's now sixteen

463
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 2: and her younger brother, Oscar is ten. Alex proceeds to

464
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 2: show them around the office, so this is.

465
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 4: Like that's sales, that's like the development team. Oh that's

466
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 4: Hogy you guys, Yeah, yeah, do you know Hora? Hey

467
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 4: you want to go say hi?

468
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. The tour makes a pit stop to introduce Gimblet

469
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 2: media editor Jorge just who at the moment is seated

470
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: atop my desk, touching on my things. It turns out

471
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: that Lars has already met Jorge, and so is Nora.

472
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 5: You guys met when you were a foreign you were

473
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 5: an infants at Alex's wedding.

474
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Lars explains how his daughter might best remember

475
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: the podcast editor. Turning to Jorge, Lars says.

476
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 5: You jumped in the pool that the.

477
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: Large bearded cannonballing anarchist and Alex's favorite parenting story was

478
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: none other than America's favorite role model Porgey.

479
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 4: Just is he the one, yeah, yeah, who broke all

480
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 4: the rules.

481
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 3: A very good life. Lesson, break all the rules at

482
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: somebody's wedding and they'll hire you, give you a job.

483
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: And with that, Jorge resumes his job of manhandling my

484
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: stress ball with extremely sticky hands, and Alex resumes this tour,

485
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: which Lars and Kitty think is just one of your

486
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 2: standard garden variety office tours, but is actually a semi

487
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: carefully choreographed ruse to get them into a studio for

488
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: the surprise.

489
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 4: These are all the various shows.

490
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 12: I've been listening to a bunch.

491
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 8: Of your shows.

492
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 4: Which ones you listen to? Crimetown?

493
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: I really liked Homecoming?

494
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: I liked Do you like Heavyweight?

495
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: Liking Heavyweight is a key part of the plan.

496
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 4: I listen to Heavyweight?

497
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 8: Eh?

498
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: Close enough? Alex points to the glass door of the

499
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: studio in which I'm seated.

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00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 4: That's stopping all you want to say?

501
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: Hi, this is the most crucial part of the plan,

502
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: Alex must lure the family into the studio with the

503
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: promise of meeting your humble host is Jonathan Kitty.

504
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we met prey many years ago.

505
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 9: Hi.

506
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: Hey, Yeah, it's nice to see you.

507
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 6: Hi.

508
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: I remember Lars and Kitty from back in the day

509
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: picking up Alex at work to do cool young people

510
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: things that I don't recall being invited to. They're now

511
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: middle aged, like Alex, like me. Now that we're all

512
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: in the studio, Stevie sets the final piece of the

513
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: plan in motion, cool and casual, like.

514
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 1: We should play them the thing we're we're going on.

515
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you guys want you haven't? Yeah? Okay, Lars, Kitty,

516
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: Nora and Oscar all settle in.

517
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: Okay, you ready.

518
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: Welcome everybody. Welcome to the wedding of Kitty Wade Bartlett

519
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: and Christian Jacobson.

520
00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: Lars and Kitty's faces light up, so it's actually happening.

521
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that Lars and Kitty quickly recognized the

522
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: promised wedding audio, but at just a few seconds in,

523
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: I'm amazed at how quickly they recognize it.

524
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 5: Every time I come to see you, I'll visit New

525
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 5: York every couple of years a year and hang out

526
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 5: with Alex and Kitty. I'll say, you know, and ask

527
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 5: him for the fucking tape. Yeah, we definitely always remembered that.

528
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: Even their daughter Nora knows about Alex and the tapes.

529
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 10: I never really thought it was really gonna happen.

530
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: Either, But what did What did you hear about it?

531
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 11: Well?

532
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 10: I heard that, yeah, that he came to the wedding

533
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 10: and interviewed all of your drunk family.

534
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: Members and that you were terrified.

535
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 10: And then I said, well, I don't know if I

536
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 10: want to hear I've seen your family drunk.

537
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: Oh, you're gonna You're gonna hear it now. Yeah, I'm excited.

538
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: It gives me a great pleasure to finally deliver the

539
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 4: thing I probably seventeen years.

540
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: This is really exciting.

541
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 4: So should we Let's do it.

542
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: Let's get on with it. Okay, I have a go.

543
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is exciting.

544
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Stevie presses play.

545
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: Welcome everybody. Welcome to the wedding of Kitty Wade Bartlett

546
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: and Lars Christian Jacobson. This is going to be a

547
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: somewhat unconventional ceremony.

548
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: For the next hour, we all sit and listen. The

549
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: friends tell stories about Lars.

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00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 7: Lars and I had decided after a night of drinking

551
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 7: at four in the morning, we decided we were going

552
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 7: to do a triathlon together. And every time we would

553
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 7: meet to work out get in shape for the triathon,

554
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 7: we would end up drinking for eight or ten hours straight.

555
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: And the friends tell stories about Kitty.

556
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 6: When I was ten, she convinced me to wash the cat.

557
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 6: It's a bad, bad, bad idea, but it seemed like

558
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 6: the best idea.

559
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: And when I was fourteen, there's a lot of just

560
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 2: hanging out that was perfect, remember, And then there are

561
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: the toasts.

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00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 13: And Lars has an amazing amount of love to give

563
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 13: and I've always known that, and Kitty, I'm just so

564
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 13: enthralled with the way that he has been able to

565
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 13: give this to you, and he does. And I can't

566
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 13: tell you how happy I am and how proud I

567
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 13: am of my brother.

568
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: You know, as we all listen, Lars looks down at

569
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: his lap. Kitty listens with her eyes closed tight.

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00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 6: Kitty and I had this planet that we were just

571
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 6: going to grow old and have rocking chairs next to

572
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 6: each other, and we were going to grow old together

573
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 6: and cook wonderful meals, and share a house and just

574
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 6: be old biddies and sit on our rocking chairs and

575
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 6: criticize everybody.

576
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: As we grow up, the friends we once sat around

577
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: plotting our futures with become the friends who, once that

578
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: future comes, we only end up seeing once a year.

579
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 2: The friend we saw Patch Adams with becomes the friend

580
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: who picks us up from the hospital. The couple who

581
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: introduced us to our girlfriend become the ones who weren't

582
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: there for us after the divorce. Disappointment and self recrimination

583
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 2: pile up, but so do shared history and love, and

584
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 2: so the friend who broke his promise.

585
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 8: And he goes.

586
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 4: Right into the garage.

587
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: Becomes the friend who makes it right. How many When

588
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: we first sat down, everyone was focused on the gesture.

589
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: After sixteen years, Lars and Kitty were finally getting their

590
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: wedding audio. But once the gesture had been made and

591
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 2: the excitement had faded, they were left with something else altogether,

592
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: the time machine.

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00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 3: Kiddy, do you wish to take this man as your husband,

594
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: to have holden bear all times and all things great

595
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: and small, for all the days of your life? I do, Lars,

596
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 3: do you wish to take this woman as your wife,

597
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: to have hold in bear through all times and all

598
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: things great and small, for all the days of your life.

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00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: I do, can I have the rinks.

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00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: At the end of the ceremony, the officiant issues a

601
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: final request.

602
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: Lars and Kitty have organized this ceremony today because they

603
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: want this to be a shared moment, our page in

604
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: our communal memory. With the corner folded over, I'd actually

605
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 3: like to pause here for a few seconds so that

606
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 3: everyone can fix this time in their minds and maybe

607
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: offer whatever silent blessings they want.

608
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: We listen to the silence in silence. For Kitty and Lars,

609
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: the silence back then was meant to keep them in

610
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 2: the present, two people suspended in a singular moment, just

611
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 2: having made a promise to each other, but before spending

612
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: the rest of their lives trying to keep it. The

613
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: silence says, Lars and Kitty sit in the room today

614
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: with their two children, and their old friend is taking

615
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: them back to the past, reminding them of who they

616
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 2: were and who was with them. Lars rests his hand

617
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: against his face. Kitty has a quiet smile.

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00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 13: I love you, I love you.

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Speaker 2: The wedding audio comes to a close. No one really

620
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: knows what to say. A situation that's never stopped this guy.

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Speaker 1: That's the wedding.

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00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 5: I do have a lot of love to give.

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00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: He's right, and uh, yeah, that's what.

624
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 5: But it made perfect sense, like, yeah, that's why Kitty

625
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 5: loves me. That's why, Like, oh, that's what I have

626
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 5: to offer Kitty.

627
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: I'm so glad.

628
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 5: Well, I mean from the outside, like I ever, you

629
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 5: can see what you know she brings to me, to her.

630
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 5: But I sincerely have a lot of love to get.

631
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 5: I always know it's good for me. It was nice

632
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 5: that it was good for you too.

633
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 12: Yeah, those friends and that that time it was it

634
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 12: was such a great time and it just kind of,

635
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 12: I don't know, waiting for it seventeen years makes it

636
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 12: that much sweeter.

637
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the other thing, though, are you taking so long?

638
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 5: Is that when I knew when we did hear it

639
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 5: it would be.

640
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: Longer because it's been.

641
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 4: It's surprising, you know what was surprising?

642
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: Well, just so.

643
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 5: How things really haven't changed that much?

644
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 4: Have things not changed?

645
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 2: This catches Alex everything that surrounds him. The equipment, the employees,

646
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: the studio were packed into, and the building were in

647
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: it all serves to remind him of just how much

648
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: has changed. But Lars is talking about something else.

649
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 5: Not to sound corny, but I still feel the same way.

650
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 5: I feel like the emotions are still completely familiar.

651
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 2: Right.

652
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 4: Do you still feel the same way about Lars as

653
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 4: you did back then?

654
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: I actually do.

655
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 12: I mean I still love him for all the same reasons.

656
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: Lars says that he and Kitty always somehow knew that

657
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: Alex would never abandon the project completely. It just wasn't

658
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: in keeping with Alex's character or his capacity for guilt.

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00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 5: And I kind of felt once you started Gimblet like

660
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 5: there's no way because it's hard for me to see

661
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 5: you have a free time.

662
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: Well see now, actually what happened is the entire thing

663
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 4: is all lated to this. Well, if I hadn't started

664
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 4: Gimblet never would have happened.

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00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: If Alex hadn't started Gimblet, he wouldn't have had me

666
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: to delegate to, and I wouldn't have had Stevie. So

667
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: is it not possible that the hand that signed the

668
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: papers incorporating Gimblet Media was subconsciously guided by a year's

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Speaker 2: old promise seeking its fulfillment. Possibly, or maybe Alex just

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Speaker 2: had a passion for boxed meals and mattresses delivered directly

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Speaker 2: to your doorstep, of which, no matter what your purchase,

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Speaker 2: please remember to use the offer code heavyweight.

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Speaker 5: It's really sweet. Thank you, I know, I mean thank you, Stevie.

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Speaker 5: It's a pleasure to meet you.

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Speaker 2: I know, thank you, Steve.

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Speaker 1: You are my oldest friend.

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Speaker 5: Well, I feel like I need to know more about you,

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Speaker 5: because you know so much about us.

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Speaker 4: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: After leaving the studio, Alex pops open a bottle of champagne.

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Speaker 2: Unlike how we might usually drink bubbly from a trophy

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Speaker 2: cup or billionaire shoe, he drinks it from a Gimlet

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Speaker 2: Media branded coffee cup. After all, he's among friends. Cheers, clars, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: getting the job done. After champagne, the heroes are complete.

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Speaker 2: Alex heads to dinner with his friends, and although I'm

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Speaker 2: not invited nor even thanked, I can tell Alex is grateful.

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Speaker 2: Something in the way that he doesn't say goodbye or

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Speaker 2: even look at me that speaks of our friendship, a

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Speaker 2: friendship with roots that extend through the floorboards, creep into

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Speaker 2: the insulating asbestos, and down deep into the polluted earth

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Speaker 2: of the Guanis Canal, the very foundational sludge upon which

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Speaker 2: Gimblet Media was founded. Later, Alex will tell me how

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Speaker 2: it was the first time he'd been able to properly

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Speaker 2: digest a meal with Larsen Kittie in years. He'll tell

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Speaker 2: me how they all went crazy and had two drinks

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Speaker 2: with dinner like they were celebrating. How they all lingered

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Speaker 2: longer than usual, just hanging out like they used to.

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Speaker 9: Now that the Fernitures returned into its goodwill home, now

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Speaker 9: that the last month's rent is scheming with the damaged pos,

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Speaker 9: take this moment to dissolve, if we meant it, if

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Speaker 9: we turn.

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Speaker 3: We felt around from far too.

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Speaker 2: From things that accidentally Talk. Heavyweight is hosted and produced

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Speaker 2: by me Jonathan Goldstein, along with Peter Bresnan, Khila Holt,

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Speaker 2: and Stevie Lane, who who if you do want to

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Speaker 2: know more about, enjoys eating pears, chewing on ice, and

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Speaker 2: making jewelry that can be viewed at Stevielanejewelry dot com.

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Speaker 2: The show is edited by Jorgeus, with additional editing by

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Speaker 2: Alex Bloomberg, who, on his show Without Fail this week,

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Speaker 2: interviews our mentor from wayback in Shakespeare Days, Ira Glass

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Speaker 2: and Ira confronts mister Bloomberg in a way I could

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Speaker 2: only dream of. Are you so far down the road

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Speaker 2: of your venture capital?

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Speaker 11: Like that?

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Speaker 4: If somebody leaves you, you have to crush them like

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Speaker 4: mister Burns.

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Speaker 2: Special thanks to Emily Condon, Lynn Levy, Kimmi, Regular, Amanda Melhuish,

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Speaker 2: Mia Bloomfield, Phoebe Flanagan, Jasmine Romero, Matthew boll and Jackie Cohen.

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Speaker 2: Bobby Lord mixed the episode with music by Christine Fellows,

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Speaker 2: Michael Hurst, Blue Dot Sessions, and he himself, Bobby Lord.

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Speaker 2: Additional music credits can be found on our website Gimletmedia

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Speaker 2: dot com slash Heavyweight. Our theme song is by the

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Speaker 2: weaker Lands courtesy of Epitaph Records, and our ad music

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Speaker 2: is by Hailey Shaw. Follow us on Twitter at Heavyweight.

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Speaker 2: This is our last episode of the season, but we're

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Speaker 2: already starting to look for stories for season four. So

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Speaker 2: if you have one, email us at Heavyweight at gimltmedia

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Speaker 2: dot com and if you see fit, why not punch

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Speaker 2: in some stars for us on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for listening. Okay,

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Speaker 2: hello hello. If we hope to produce one of the

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Speaker 2: greatest documentaries of all time. Something to make March of

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Speaker 2: the Penguins look like March of the Garbage. We're going

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Speaker 2: to have to work twice as fast sounds good. Actually,

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Speaker 2: wait here, let me let me, you know, let me

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Speaker 2: just try a few other ideas that I had, and

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Speaker 2: you could just pick whichever one you like best. Okay, here,

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Speaker 2: here we go. That'll make fog of War look like

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Speaker 2: fog of garbage, makes gimmey shelter look like gimmy garbage,

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Speaker 2: makes stop making sense look like stop making garbage, makes

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Speaker 2: Jodowski's Dune look like dune, makes Harlan County, USA look

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Speaker 2: like Garbage County, USA. Makes Nanuka the North look like

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Speaker 2: Nanuka the Garbage. Makes kanyan a Squatzy look like garbage. Squatzy,

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Speaker 2: makes bowling for Columbine look like bowling for garbage, makes

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Speaker 2: the Queen of Versailles look like the Queen of garbage,

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Speaker 2: makes winged migration look like winged garbage, makes touching the

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Speaker 2: void look like touching the garbage, makes searching for Sugarman

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Speaker 2: look like searching for garbagemen. Makes an inconvenient sequel Truth

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Speaker 2: to Power look like an inconvenient sequel truth to garbage

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Speaker 2: makes Gyro dreams of sushi look like Gyro dreams of garbage,

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Speaker 2: makes Paris is Burning look like garbage is burning, makes

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Speaker 2: American movie like American garbage, makes When We Were King

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Speaker 2: looked like when we were garbage. That's a good one,

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Speaker 2: makes supercise me look like supersized garbage, makes fire the

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Speaker 2: greatest party that never happened look like garbage. Fire the

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Speaker 2: greatest party that never happened.

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Speaker 9: Then