1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: I am so confused. Paternity test says I might have 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: three dads. I got the results and it just might 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: ruin my life. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: Mama Mia, here we go again, my man, Joe. I 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: knew the lyrics. I knew all those lyrics. I remember 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: the one this is like the plot of Mama Mia. 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: And two I remember I was pissed because the Dark 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: Knight came out at the same time as Mama Mia. 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: And my mom made me see Mama Mia into the 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: Dark Knight because I didn't think it was old enough, 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: and so I, uh, pro to protest, I loudly fell 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: asleep in Mama Mia in a position I knew I 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: would snore. 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: I I'm kind of tempted to retroactively call CPS. Yeah, 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: I know, bro, that's like you think, Yeah, Mama Mia 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: over Dark Knight unacceptable, unacceptable, throwing joys, pissed, just kidding, 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: Sam's moom missus Donne. 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: Thousand and eight Ever. 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, but this story I got something to 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: share you up, Sam. This story was submitted to our 21 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: slash okopie show Bye Okay, here we go WTF. Thank 22 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: you so much for sending that a Here we go, 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: ready to ra and roll and if you want to 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: send in your stories, you can go to our slash 25 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: Okop show or call our line four four zero five 26 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: stor eight six five sixty seven. We're gonna be playing 27 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: your voicemails inviting some of you on the freaking show. 28 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: Call our land girl please dude, but without further ado, Sam, 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: let's get into it. 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: Also the girl she texts us back, amazing. 31 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: Let's see if she can ring ring us real quick. 32 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: Maybe at the maybe. 33 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: At the end, she said she won't be available until 34 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: nine pm. 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: Tough nuts, tough nuts, We'll get a night. We'll get 36 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: him next time, all right. I have been waiting to 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: get this off my chest because it's such a crazy story, 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: but I haven't shared publicly as to not embarrass the family. 39 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: When I saw this call for DNA stories on Okop 40 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: Show with Us, I couldn't wait to get to my 41 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: computer and start typing. Fall twenty twenty, I, thirty five female, 42 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: was approached by my thirty seven female sister Chloe about 43 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: getting a twenty three in me kit. 44 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: First mistake, First mistake, First mistake. Don't inquire about the 45 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 2: blood of your family. 46 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: You can't do it. Our ancestors must. 47 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: Be left bind leaf behind. 48 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: I have always wanted to get one done out of 49 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: curiosity about our lineage. So when Chloe said twenty three 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: in me was doing a half. 51 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: Off sale, half off the product and half off your family. 52 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: You're like split your family in half. Yep, I was 53 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: totally game. I mentioned how fun it might be to 54 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: find the long lost relative or solve a cold case. 55 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: Damn opiece, I want to start their own podcast. 56 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: What her thoughts were elsewhere, Though, Chloe and our mom 57 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: do not get along all that well, partly due to 58 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: her frequent lying all of our lives. Chloe has teased 59 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: me about being adopted. Oh no for dadom us not 60 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: looking alike and just being so different. She is practically 61 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: the twin of our father, whereas I tend to look 62 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: more like our mom. I laughed, because my sons look 63 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: like the complete opposite of each other, and I know 64 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: they have the same father. 65 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: Yep. 66 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: Plus, my oldest son has some of the same features 67 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: as my dad and sister, eyes and height. He didn't 68 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: get those from me or my husband, so I was 69 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: certain that my dad was my dad. Nonetheless, we ordered 70 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: the kit and giggled to ourselves about how Mom would 71 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: be shitting bricks if she indeed had a secret and 72 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: knew that we had taken a DNA test or your mom. 73 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so. Chloe and 74 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: I have a younger half sister, Kim, twenty seven female. 75 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: Besides my husband. She is the only family member that 76 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: we told. 77 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: So only family member that you told about getting the 78 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: twenty three and me kit DNA test A guess. 79 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: Yep, she did not take a test since she was 80 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: saving up money. The test kits came within a week, 81 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: the super organized sister that I am. I submitted my 82 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: sample the very next morning. Chloe, the procrastinator, took a 83 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: good week or so to submit her sample. I checked 84 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: my phone daily to see where the kit was in 85 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: the process, and finally, after about a month, I got 86 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: an alert on my phone that the results were. 87 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: In exciting and what are the results? 88 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: What did it say? I was in the middle of 89 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: packing for Thanksgiving travel to my in laws, but I 90 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: stopped everything and. 91 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: Realized those in laws are I guess they would be 92 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: your in laws because you married until dad. 93 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: One of the jokes Chloe said is if I do 94 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: not see any Polish, then panic our paternal great grandmother 95 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: came from Poland, so it didn't show up in my DNA. 96 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: That's a red flag. I know somebody else who had 97 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: some family members. 98 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: From I had some family members in Poland and I 99 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: did an interview with my grandpa recently. So if you 100 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 2: want to hear it, you should check it out finding founders. Yeah, 101 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: listen to it. Listen to it. 102 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: It might be about oh peas long lost grandfads. 103 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: It's just gonna are we related? 104 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 105 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 2: I called Chloe immediately. 106 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: There is no Polish red alert red alert. I searched 107 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: through my paternal matches and I did not recognize anyone. 108 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: Oh shit, just a lot of French sounding names and 109 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: relatives in Canada. My dad is not French and we 110 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: do not have any relatives in Canada. I searched through 111 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: my maternal matches and I recognize names. Well, I knew 112 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: my mom is my mom at least since procrastinatedor Chloe 113 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: submitted her test a week after me, and that being 114 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: a holiday week, we had to. 115 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: Just sit and wait, right because you want to see it. 116 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: Do the results match up? Or is this my full 117 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: sister or my half sister? 118 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: Dudeoo? I was so grateful that we were not at 119 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: our moms for Thanksgiving. That would have been hella awkward 120 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: and I don't think I would have been able to 121 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: contain myself. Yeah, understandable. The first week of December, I 122 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: was working from home and helping my children with virtual 123 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: school because we were still in the middle of a pandemic. 124 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,559 Speaker 1: I got a frantic call from Chloe. She cries and says, 125 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: we are half sisters. 126 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: Not full sisters, not full sisters because mom did some dirty. 127 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: We share the same mom, but with some friends, with 128 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: your dad, with some we we baget stuck his baget 129 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: where it lum belong. 130 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: We we not even real, just in Canada like. 131 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: We we a yeah, French baget, Canadian French baget. 132 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: Good gravy, chocolate blue. My head was spinning. I couldn't 133 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: comprehend what I was hearing. Even though the lack of 134 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 1: polish was a red flag, I truly did not expect 135 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: this result. Fuck. We got on the app and went 136 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: down every rabbit hole trying to figure out what that meant, 137 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: how it happened, et cetera, et cetera, And who's the 138 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: half who's the half, well, the one without the polish, right, 139 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: it seems seems like they know they share the same 140 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: moth so most likely, oh, he is the one that 141 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have the same dad, or like the dad that 142 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: she thinks is her dad. Yes, yes, but but could 143 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: be both. 144 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: We don't. 145 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: We don't know, koss all we don't know. Because this 146 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: was surely a mistake. We call Kim and all three 147 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: of us cry vent and laugh. From here on out, 148 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: I will refer to my dad's as please is a 149 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: line of the contestant dads. Sam, gonna get a little 150 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: backround music. Dad number one, the one I was told 151 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: was my dad, and his Chloe's confirmed dad. Dad number two, 152 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: the one who raised us and is Kim's confirmed dad. 153 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: Dad number three my biological dad, damn father. I called 154 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: Dad number two to see if he had any information 155 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: because he knew me since I was in diapers. 156 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: Which his dad number two. Dad number two is the 157 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 2: dad that she wanted, the dad. 158 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh uh, the one she was told that's her 159 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: dad and his Chloe's confirmed dads. I called Dad number 160 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: two to see if he had any information because he 161 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: knew me since I was in diapers. I was close 162 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: with him, and he even walked me down the aisle 163 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: when I got married. As soon as he picked up 164 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: the phone, I burst into tears, sobbing uncontrollably. Oh. I 165 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: hadn't said the words aloud to anyone outside of the 166 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: sister circle and my husband. I was surprised at the 167 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: emotions coming out of me. After what felt like an eternity, 168 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: I finally got the words out. He was freaked out 169 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: by the whole situation and said he didn't know anything. Chloe. 170 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: Oh that is Oh, and his dad's still with mom. 171 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: So let me let me see here, Riley, do you 172 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: do you know? I'm actually a little confused too. 173 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: Is who are the three possible dads? 174 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: So Dad number one is, Hey, this is your actual dad, 175 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: But Dad number two raised her? 176 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: But number one who's dead? Number three? 177 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: Oh fuck the actual bio. I'm sorry, Oh my god, jeez. 178 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, Dad number three is our actual biological father, 179 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: that number two raised her, and Dad number one the 180 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: one I was told was my dad and is Chloe's 181 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: confirmed dad. So maybe the thought he was the father. 182 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: So I'm imagining Dad one and Mom together had both 183 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: the kids. Dad one divorced from mom, Dad too married, 184 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: Mom raised the daughters. One does not realize that Dad 185 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: two is our dad too? Does not think that Dad 186 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: one is the real father? Yes, but it's actually Dad 187 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: number three. And oh. He is not saying, oh, I 188 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: don't think you are the father to dad too. She's 189 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: just saying, do you know anything about out my real father? 190 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, yes, yes? 191 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 2: Which is dad? Right? 192 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: That makes sense. Chloe had contacted Dad number one's mom 193 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: to ask some questions about the Polish component. 194 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: Wait, Dad number one, okay, Dad number one's mom yes. 195 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: Yes, Obviously Grandma put it together and figured out why 196 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: Chloe was calling. Grandma called me to check on me. 197 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: When I answered the phone, I exclaimed, Grandma, She laughed 198 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: and replied, hot, Grandma, she is brutal, but hilarious because 199 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: she is. 200 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: That's that she's not the grandma. 201 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: And yeah. She told me that she loved me, that 202 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: it didn't matter, she didn't know anything about it, and 203 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: to maybe not tell Dad number one. That night, as 204 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: I went to bed, having no clue who I was, 205 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: why I have a local cousin named Pierre, and if 206 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: I would ever find out who my. 207 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: Dad truly, all these French connections. 208 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: Like Pierre Pierre in Chacoli Blue, my sisters and I 209 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: decided that we would drive five hours to confront our 210 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: mother and solve the mystery. Okay, man, this is a 211 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: freaking I'm excited about my goodness. The next morning, before 212 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: we left our confrontation trip, Dad number two called me 213 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: and told me to sit down. 214 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: He knew who the father was. He knew that number 215 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: two knows. He knows, and it's not Dad number one. 216 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like it's Daddy number numro who. Okay, 217 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 2: we got a new daddy entering the chat and he 218 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 2: needs to chill. Daddy, chill the get daddy, Daddy big, 219 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 2: beget daddy. I am your father here you listen. Smoked 220 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: a cigarette. Why break the bad news? I remember your 221 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: mother and when I voted that all. 222 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: Those years ago with that number one, so might say 223 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: I filled may beget with the French which is scream 224 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: and go. But it was no to soup. He was 225 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: in shock. The night before that, he froze and couldn't 226 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: say anything. He told me the story of how my married, 227 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: twenty one year old mother was hooking up with the 228 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: nineteen year old grocery store worker while Dad number one 229 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: was out of town. Oh damn, groceries wasn't the only 230 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: thing he was bagging him. 231 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: I was well, maybe I guess he wasn't bagging. Oh goodness, 232 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: no bags were used. 233 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: He was bagging chicks, but not bagging his meat. 234 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: Matt bagging is meat. 235 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: Oh goodness. 236 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: My mother confessed this to Dad number two when they 237 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: were dating. Confess to cheating on Dad number one to 238 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: Dad number two. 239 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: Yes, he responded by telling her that he didn't want 240 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: to know anything about it and it was up to 241 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: her to tell me. Oh and that nineteen year old 242 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: she hooked up with, Well, they reconnected in twenty eleven 243 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: after her second before worse and they got married. 244 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: Wait what yep? 245 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: So Dad number three is her current stepdaddy. 246 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: But is actually her real daddy? 247 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: But is actually her real daddy? What the plot twists 248 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: and characters and plot. 249 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: Lines and that's crazy? 250 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: Ah? Oh goodness, there we have it. My biological father 251 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: is actually my second step father. So my mother got 252 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: married at eighteen, had her first child, Chloe at nineteen, 253 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: cheated throughout that marriage and had me at twenty one, 254 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: got divorced at twenty three, started dating Dad number two, 255 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: immediately married him at twenty eight, and had her last child, 256 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: Kim at twenty nine. Divorced again, by forty for you 257 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: guessed it cheating. Then she married the love of her 258 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: life quote unquote by fifty. 259 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: Wow, and the love of her life was the guy 260 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: that she was cheating on with origin. 261 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: Day, back in the day, from nineteen to fifty years old. 262 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: That's like, I mean, some flames don't die. 263 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I like kind of cute in a 264 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: fucked up way. 265 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: My aunt married at twenty one, divorced, and then remarried 266 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: the same person, the same person at I want to 267 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: say sixty five, mid sixties, oh, forty years later. 268 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: Basically that's crazy. It had that whole thing. It's like, hey, 269 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: if you're not married and I'm not married by sixty five, dude, 270 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: let's make this thing up. 271 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: But we got we've got the time limits to stop 272 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: Watch has started. After hearing the news of my true paternity, 273 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: I was still in disbelief about whether Dad number three 274 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: was in fact my real father. I picked up Kim 275 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: and we drove all afternoon to meet Chloe. 276 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: Also, is this The Kardashians are like, yeah, yeah, Kim, Chloe, 277 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: maybe these are fake names. 278 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: For a oh smart opie. Together, we drove to our 279 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: mom's house and we were about ten minutes away. We 280 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: called her to say that we were all together and 281 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: we needed to talk. Here it goes, she was panicked. 282 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: She was panicking, but didn't have a clue about the 283 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: bomb we were about to drop on her. This is 284 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: a big bomb, auci. We walked into the house, pulled 285 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: up some chairs in the dark living area, like some 286 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: kind of intervention or something, and told her that we 287 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: know that Dad number one is not my father. 288 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: Bomb dropped. 289 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: She pretended to be shocked and flabbergassed. Then, after some prompting, 290 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: she somewhat confessed that she had an affair around the 291 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: time I was conceived. We had been ready to we 292 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: had been we had been ready to forgive her after 293 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: she came clean, but the rambling excuses, blaming and lying 294 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: made us furious. She didn't even know how birth control worked. 295 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, there are shots. Her parents didn't tell her. 296 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: They were proud of her, she was just a little girl, 297 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: et cetera. Ah. Okay, So these were the list of 298 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: excuses that she was giving as to why things had happened. 299 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: She went back and forth between saying that she didn't 300 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: know for sure and that she didn't tell me because 301 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: she didn't want to hurt me. She divorced Dad number 302 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: one when I was a baby, and a DNA test 303 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: was offered as part of the divorce. She declined, as 304 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: a baby, I did not have an attachment to Dad 305 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: number one, and it would have been so easy to 306 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: just be honest and let Dad number three be my 307 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: actual father, right, Like she had the opportunity. 308 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, she had the opportunity to give op a like 309 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: the fire that was actually her father. 310 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: And maybe maybe there's some plausible deniability, but she at 311 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: least knew that there was a high. 312 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 2: High chance, which is why she didn't do the DEA 313 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: test exactly, or the paternity test, because she's like, oh, 314 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: maybe maybe this will tell me something that I don't 315 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 2: want to know. 316 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: Live just continuing to live in uncertainty, the darkness. Oh goodness. 317 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: Oh and he was downstairs listening to the whole confrontation, 318 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: just elated. Interesting. According to him, he begs to be 319 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: my father and she wouldn't let him. Why gotta get 320 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: that shit, spanking slap it. She promised to tell me 321 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: when I was eighteen. Op is thirty five. 322 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: That's a few years late, guys, Yeah, thirty five, that's 323 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: like almost twice the age she was going to do 324 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: it at. 325 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: After eighteen came and went, he called her to check 326 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: in on me. She took that as an opportunity to 327 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: leave a bad relationship and moved in with him. Him 328 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: calling to check up was the like spark of her. 329 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 2: Like getting back together, back together with him after all 330 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: of it. Did she just leave the like dad too instantly? 331 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: She helped me out, Riley, I think she was already 332 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: divorced because hold on hold, she was divorced again by 333 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: forty from you guessed that cheating, then married the love 334 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: of her life by fifty. 335 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so uh so it wasn't maybe like immediately after, Yeah, 336 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 2: that she was with dad too. 337 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, she took out as an opportunity to leave. 338 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean she says, the opportunity to leave a bad relationships. Yeah, 339 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: maybe it is, but it is the biological dad, which. 340 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: I don't think it's it's not necessarily that dad number 341 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: two right right? 342 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, yes, you're correct. You had dating at twenty 343 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: three and then lasted all the way up till forty. 344 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: So with that, then married at fifty, So she has 345 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: ten years that she could have been dating other people. 346 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. 347 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: So you just don't know. 348 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems I think it's forty to fifty. Maybe 349 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: a little bit foggy, but well, we'll keep on trudging, okay. 350 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: She told him that she was moving in with her parents. 351 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: Damn forty and fifty, but just started bringing her stuff 352 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: over and boom, they were a couple. When he brought 353 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: up the paternity conversation, she insinuated that maybe they could 354 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: tell me after they get married. So they got married, 355 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: and when he asked, she told him no and that 356 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: I would never know the truth. 357 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 2: Why is she trying to keep it away? 358 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: Like? Why? 359 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: Like, I mean, I guess it makes her look bad. 360 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's it. And it sounds like she's 361 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: like pretty lying. Yeah yeah, like like her response to 362 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: confront being confronted with it. After that emotional roller coaster, 363 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: Chloe and I still needed to tell Dad Number one. 364 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: We were worried about his reaction, but agreed that the 365 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: lies needed to stop. Growing up, he had visitation with us, 366 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: which turned into a handful of times a year, and 367 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: I never really bonded with him, but we cared for 368 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: each other in our respective roles of father and daughter. 369 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: Chloe Dad number one and I drove down a long 370 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: road and told him. He said it didn't matter and 371 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: he would adopt all of us girls. 372 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: Hmm. He cried purely. 373 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: He cried periodically and complained about child support. We sat 374 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: at a bar and had some drinks and let the 375 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: news sink in. We didn't talk about it, but of 376 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: course a man came over to us to say hello 377 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: to Dad number one and Chloe. After instructions were made, 378 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: he exclaimed that I was too pretty to be his daughter. 379 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: What This man had no idea that just an hour 380 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: earlier we found out that he is correct. I am 381 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: not his daughter. 382 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: Wait, I'm not Dad number one. Stop right. 383 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: This man named Stacy was also the largest, burliest man 384 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: with the deepest voice I have ever met. Not important, 385 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: but just adds to the Holy hell. This is just 386 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: bizarre situation. We all stared at him and tried to 387 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: awkwardly laugh it off. Kim joined us, and after some drinks, 388 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: I left to be alone because I was exhausted. I slept, 389 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: ordered pizza and was just dazed for the rest of 390 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: the day. My sister proceeded to get hammered at the 391 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: bar with Dad number one. Chloe makes a big scene 392 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: wailing and blubbering to everyone about the whole situation until 393 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: I pick her up from the bar because she was 394 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: a puking hot mess. Oh nice. We both agreed that 395 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: we needed to set a match to the whole damn 396 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: town because they were all crazy and we were over it. 397 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: Over the next year and a half, I finally had 398 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: married parents. It was a nice and easy way to 399 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: get to know a surprise parent, less weird than meeting 400 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: a stranger fair enough, although he was still kind of 401 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: a stranger. After that second divorce and a string of 402 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: men that were the one I kept a distance from 403 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: anyone that my mom was dating, even when she married 404 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: Dad number three, Opie's actual biological father, I was hesitant 405 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: to get to know him. I didn't live nearby, and 406 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: I wasn't going to get to know him just for 407 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: them to break up. Knowing that he is my dad, 408 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: I feel awful that he was in the background, bursting 409 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: and wanting to tell me and wishing to connect. He 410 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: has been more relaxed and talkative since all of this 411 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: came out. Now we talk about twice a month on 412 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: the phone. He even drove nine hours round trip to 413 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: take me to lunch on my birthday this year, since 414 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: he has never spent a birthday with me. Some people 415 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: think it's sweet that my parents got together, and maybe 416 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: it was written in the stars for them to reunite 417 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: or something, but in reality, they were already divorced and 418 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: he was struggling with trusting her not to cheat. Did 419 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: I forget to men? I now have a half brother 420 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: twenty one male, and a half sister twenty six female. 421 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: As if I couldn't get any fucking crazier. 422 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, the family members keep coming out of 423 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: the woodwork. 424 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: The whole town is just like, oh, actually, we're all 425 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: your too. The whole bar is like, we are family. 426 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: We were introduced when they were just tweens and met 427 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: a few times at different family events. I'm getting to 428 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: know them now too slowly, but surely. I got Kim 429 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: a twenty three and me kit for her birthday and 430 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: confirmed that Dad number two is indeed her dad. They're 431 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: basically twins, so it wasn't really a question. 432 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 2: Why did you get another twenty three me kit after 433 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: this crazy fallout? 434 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they love key needed to make sure that, yeah, 435 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: that it was all up and up. Yeah, Dad number 436 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: two felt relieved knowing for sure. Sorry for the long post. 437 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: There's so much to cover, and I'm certain I forgot 438 00:24:54,160 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: or didn't include all of the side stories. S Oh 439 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: my goodness. 440 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm glad Op actually found who her real dad 441 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: was though same after so long. Oh my god, so 442 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: many dads that are possibilities. 443 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: That is insane. And what's so also so crazy to 444 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: me is that that was what's Op's That was Op 445 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: listening to this show and she saw her post about hey, 446 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: if you have any DNA test, we would love to 447 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: hear it. 448 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: She's like, boy, do I got one for you? 449 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: Wow? Op, I'm I'm glad you at least had had 450 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: a place to share. 451 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: Glad you're part of the Okay fam for real? 452 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: My goodness, gracious. 453 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: So what what? 454 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: What? What kind of verdicts can we can we draw 455 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: from this? Seems like the mom was definitely. 456 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: The a hole, Yeah, for teating every which way. 457 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: Maybe the question is this, if you could have like 458 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: a magic time machine and you could see all of 459 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: the things that happened, would you want to go back 460 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: in time and never know? 461 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? Glad that you know? Now, That's what I'm curious about. 462 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: Is the truth better than whatever you were living before 463 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: red pill, blue pill, Yeah, yeah. And do you wake 464 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: up or do you stay in dreamland a little longer? 465 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: That's the question. 466 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: Well, we're very grateful that you took us on this 467 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: wild journey, but we're going to get into this next 468 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 2: story now