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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Give Them La

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Speaker 1: La Podcast. I'm fresh out of Vegas?

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Speaker 2: What up?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 1: I actually can? I tell you every time? So everyone

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Speaker 1: knows I don't drink, but I'm a whatever. When I

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Speaker 1: stay out past a certain point, I know the next

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Speaker 1: day I'm going to feel hungover. Yeah, like if you

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Speaker 1: don't drink, even though I don't drink. Yeah Like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. If it's an interaction hangover, which we've spoken

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Speaker 1: about before. It's a real thing. I get that. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure a lot of you guys get that as well.

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Speaker 1: But it's like when I see the clock hit midnight,

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Speaker 1: I go into full panic.

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Speaker 4: Wait, so tell us all about Vegas because I haven't heard. Okay,

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Speaker 4: you stayed out late?

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Speaker 1: Vegas was lit? Okay, it was so much fun.

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Speaker 4: Why did you go again?

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Speaker 1: We went because Lisa opened another restaurant at the Paris.

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Speaker 1: So she has one at Caesar's, which is vander Pump Garden.

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Speaker 1: This one is at the Paris and I'm gonna botch it.

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Speaker 1: It's vander Pump. I think it's like vander Pump up.

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Speaker 4: Vandis.

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Speaker 1: We'll just call it vander Pumps.

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Speaker 4: Okay, vander Pump Paris.

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Speaker 1: It was gorgeous. Lisa, this queen bitch walks in with

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Speaker 1: two fine looking men and giant poodles.

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Speaker 4: Stop. She made an entrance, of course she always does.

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Speaker 1: And I was, you know how uninspired I get by,

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Speaker 1: like just clothing. Yeah, like I like my sweatpants. I

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Speaker 1: like oversize everything in sneakers, Like it's a lot to

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Speaker 1: fucking pack, So I like packed all this shit. Katie

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Speaker 1: then sends me what she's gonna wear, and she looks

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Speaker 1: very Parisian, So I was. I went back to the

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Speaker 1: drawing board and I had like this really cute dress

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Speaker 1: that I've never worn, which, by the way, I had

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Speaker 1: it tailored to my body. Then I got pregnant, and

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Speaker 1: then I was like, I'm never going to fit in

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Speaker 1: it again, Like I can never wear it well thanks

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Speaker 1: to stress and me dropping a billion pounds. Fit like

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Speaker 1: a glove? Did it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah that's great though, because you've been nervous, You've been like,

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Speaker 4: I lost too much weight. But if it fit like

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Speaker 4: a glove, maybe you're.

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Speaker 1: Getting back to Maybe.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. It looked amazing and it gave me

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Speaker 4: Alice in Wonderland vibes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, A few people said that yeah.

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Speaker 4: Which I mean you have to.

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Speaker 1: That's good. It's yeah, like I felt, I felt Parisian.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you looked at and that purse. Where was that

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Speaker 4: purse from.

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Speaker 1: The purse that was my So the purse is my

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Speaker 1: great grandmother's. Oh that's so sweet and it's an excellent condition. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Is it a certain brand or is it just no.

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Speaker 1: It's just like this hand beaded so cute and cheek

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of them from my from my grandmother. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's down to me. No, it was so cute. And

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Speaker 1: then we just like went out and about so we

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Speaker 1: flew in the The event was on a Thursday. Katie

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Speaker 1: and I left Wednesday morning and got back Friday morning,

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Speaker 1: and we just like lived our best life. Like Katie

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Speaker 1: and I are in a relationship. I don't care what

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Speaker 1: she says. If she denies it, don't listen to her.

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Speaker 1: We are full on.

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Speaker 4: Together love love That good for you too, And.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like so proud of the both of us.

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Speaker 1: We were like mingling ooh, given the eye ooh. And

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Speaker 1: then we go to a bar and there is something

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Speaker 1: on the television that's playing I won't say what it is,

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Speaker 1: and there was a fine looking man and Katie Tequila.

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Speaker 4: Katie was like, y'are gonna slide out his day write out?

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Speaker 1: You're gonna And I was like, no, I'm scared. I

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Speaker 1: was like, I cannot be this bitch who slides into dms.

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Speaker 4: Why, Like, because that's how you meet people these days.

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Speaker 4: You're not on dating apps and I know you're not

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Speaker 4: looking to meet anyone, but it's fun.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I did it.

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Speaker 4: You did it.

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Speaker 1: I did it.

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Speaker 4: I haven't heard this, you guys. This is an exclusive

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Speaker 4: to me.

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Speaker 1: I did it. The DM is my See, that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: The DM is my is my safe space. Well I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's a safe space, but it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I've done this now like a handful of times, right,

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Speaker 1: and we got a response okay, And we've been bumping

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Speaker 1: gums with each other and he's cute and whatever.

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Speaker 4: Can you tease what? So we know you saw him

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Speaker 4: on the TV. This could be anything, you guys. This

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Speaker 4: could be like reality star, this could be like news anchor.

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna tell us. I'm not gonna give us

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Speaker 4: any hints.

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Speaker 1: No, because he's like a really well well okay person,

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Speaker 1: and I just don't even want to go there. I'm sure,

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Speaker 1: Like I know for a fact he's not listening to

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Speaker 1: give them all a podcast. Well, let's just say he did.

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Speaker 1: I would crawl in a hole.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: So if you were in Vegas and out and happened

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Speaker 4: to see Katie and La La and we're at the

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Speaker 4: same place and remember what was on the TV, then you'll.

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Speaker 1: Have a clue. Then you'll have a clue. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: you know what, This is where I'm struggle buss, right,

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Speaker 1: because I'm completely content having conversations with people. But like

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Speaker 1: I was in Vegas, right, I had my own room.

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Speaker 1: I was away from like the hubbub of just my

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Speaker 1: everyday life. I don't like for me, It's like you

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Speaker 1: could bring a guy back to your room or you

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Speaker 1: could go back alone and do a face mask and

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Speaker 1: watch friends, and the latter sounds way more fun to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't want it right now.

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Speaker 4: So then that's what you do, you know, that's what

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Speaker 4: you do.

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Speaker 1: Simple text messages, FaceTime calls, phone calls. Maybe we can

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Speaker 1: meet up. Okay, I don't want a man in my

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Speaker 4: Well there you go. And also, this is like the

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Speaker 4: New Age quote unquote dating. And I know a lot

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Speaker 4: of people are gonna hate that I say that, but

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Speaker 4: it is heavy conversation first, it's the talking stage. It's

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Speaker 4: and just because you're not on dating apps doesn't mean

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Speaker 4: it can't happen wet gms.

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Speaker 1: Right, But I watched this thing about dating apps, okay,

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Speaker 1: and people have been like murdered and assaulted, and I'm like, uh, nerve.

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Speaker 4: I'm not laughing obviously at that terrible thing. I'm laughing

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Speaker 4: at like the fact that I thought it was going

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Speaker 4: to be positive and then it took a really dark turn.

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Speaker 1: I sometimes laugh when I get nervous. Oh oh, I

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Speaker 1: laugh when I get nervous constantly, and I start playing

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Speaker 1: with my fingers and stuff, and I'm like, oh fuck, yep.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: So I watched that, and I've learned that like these

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Speaker 1: these apps, these dating apps, they're not held responsible if

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Speaker 1: they let someone on the site who like could be

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Speaker 1: a serial killer. Oh, and that freaks me out. Not

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Speaker 1: that the dms are like any safer. You could still

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Speaker 1: meet someone sketch.

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Speaker 4: Right, but you could really really go You could find

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Speaker 1: I mean, I want to know anyone who's listening if

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Speaker 1: you met someone on a dating app and you guys

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Speaker 1: are like happy and healthy. Maybe you're married now and

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Speaker 1: have children. If you met in the dms, Like, I

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Speaker 1: want to know your story and I want to share

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Speaker 1: them on the podcast because I know that this is

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Speaker 1: a topic we venture in too often, because I'm in

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Speaker 1: brand new waters and I have been single for half

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Speaker 1: of a year, and I want to know, Like, I

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Speaker 1: want to know your stories where you single for a

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Speaker 1: long time and you were like, Eh, the dick gross e.

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Speaker 1: That's not me gagging on a dick. That's me gagging

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Speaker 4: I'm not gagging on you. I'm gagging because.

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Speaker 1: Of you, right, Like, but can I tell you it

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Speaker 1: was just the best time ever in Vegas?

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Speaker 4: Okay, really quick, because I want to go back to this.

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Speaker 4: That would be super fun. If you're going to Lalla's tour,

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Speaker 4: they give them La La Tour. Yeah, and you have

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Speaker 4: that story about Hey, I met my partner he or

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Speaker 4: she is here with me. Look at we met on

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Speaker 4: a dating app. Yes, because she's doing a Q and

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Speaker 4: A segment and like, you can work a question into.

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Speaker 1: That one, can I tell you? Yeah, I do interviews

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Speaker 1: about the tour and they're like, what is it gonna

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Speaker 1: be about? And I'm like me, well, we go wherever

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Speaker 1: the wind takes us. There's no format, Like yeah, you

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get nervous if there's like bullet points of

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Speaker 1: like right, okay, now it's this segment. Okay, now it's

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Speaker 1: that segment, Like I just want to I want to

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Speaker 4: Exactly your people.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 4: And that's why it's gonna be so much fun. And

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Speaker 4: it's coming up any day now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's how one story.

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Speaker 2: Let's be honest.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say back to Vegas because we still

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Speaker 1: So we one day Thursday before the event, we decided.

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Speaker 1: I was like, We're going to Toubeach. Okay, fun. It's

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Speaker 1: I've always been able not always well yeah, always always

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Speaker 4: That like quintessential Vegas high roller style style.

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Speaker 1: Even but even back in the day, it was like

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Speaker 1: you go to someone else's table or whatever, you drink

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Speaker 1: want a cabana, and I don't want anybody in it

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Speaker 1: but us, you know, because when you go to night

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Speaker 1: clubs and stuff, there's tables and it's like, but I

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Speaker 1: so many people in here. Yes, this was awesome, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna fill it with all the

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Speaker 1: I don't mind herds man.

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Speaker 4: I saw your Instagram story and then it quickly cut

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Speaker 4: to like Ariana instead.

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Speaker 1: It was like I decided to fill it with Arion instead. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so our it was me, Katie Ariana, Like we talked

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Speaker 1: to dudes whatever. But I was like, I don't think

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Speaker 1: you're allowed in my capana. So we arian is such

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Speaker 1: a vibe, okay, And I'm so happy that we've gotten

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Speaker 1: back to a place that we once were in. Right,

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Speaker 1: Ariana has always been a vibe. Love that bitch. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I did post the videos in the picture

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Speaker 1: from the time that I talked about, Yes, you did

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Speaker 1: fun stuff. Okay, So they're drinking blah blah blah. We're

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Speaker 1: having the best time ever. This girl rolls up on us.

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Speaker 1: She's gotten an accent, and she like sits in the

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Speaker 1: camana and we're like, hi, like sinking she's a fan

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Speaker 1: right now, She's not a fan.

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Speaker 4: Do you guys have any coke and not coca cola?

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Speaker 1: You know how I feel about cocaine, all right. I

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Speaker 4: Stands, wait on a brighter note, So you had that

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Speaker 4: Also, good for you, bottle service girl. Tell all of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, okay, so two dark things happened in Vegas,

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Speaker 1: Arianna got this like so cute. Alice and Olivia look right,

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Speaker 1: But that's my vibe. Yeah, I'm not trying to work

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Speaker 4: I'm like, she's so cool, that's just like care free.

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Speaker 4: It was that night, girl, It's no exciting.

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Speaker 4: I've heard that there's like a different They like pumped

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm four, I'm done. I'm fucking done. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Did they get that from? Did you like me?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, So you got that's funny on the prowl.

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Speaker 4: That's great because I looked at that and I was like,

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Speaker 1: That's so I feel rude. If you are a rough,

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Speaker 1: poor tour and you're listening to my podcast, stop asking

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Speaker 4: It's old news. You know, it's old, it's dated, it's

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Speaker 1: you know, like there's gonna be a day where that's

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Speaker 1: like all I'm doing, and we can talk about it

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Speaker 1: until then. Ask me about my kid, ask me about

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Speaker 1: my life as like I don't know a national best

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Speaker 1: selling author during a pandemic. Yeah, my tour, my podcast,

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Speaker 1: the thing. You can ask me about so many things

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Speaker 1: Totally. Yeah, so there's that. Had a great time in Vegas.

437
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: Yesterday was Summer Moon's birthday party. Oh no, over the

438
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: weekend was Summer Moon's birthday party. Okay, it was fantastic

439
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: and beautiful. Brock is teaching Ocean how to put her

440
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: head underwater. He was like blowing bubbles. It's so cute.

441
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: She she did it. I have to post the video.

442
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 4: You put her head underwater. Okay, wait, so she.

443
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: Put like her little mouth like this because Summer Moon

444
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: goes fully underwater.

445
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 4: She does oh totally, well does she do the Have

446
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 4: you ever seen the swimming instructors with babies, yes, where

447
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 4: they like them. It terrifies me.

448
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: Yes, but Summer Moon can do it.

449
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 4: Does she Is it from an instructor or no, she's

450
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 4: her dad. Oh my god.

451
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: So Brock had Ocean in the pool yesterday and obviously

452
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: I took a video. I'll definitely post that video. And

453
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 1: I just like, I think it's so cute because I

454
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 1: feel like we're all gonna be friends forever, and I

455
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: want when Ocean's older to see like I have pictures

456
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: of me with my friend's dads, like when we're little kids,

457
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 1: like the two of us, me and my best friend

458
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: with their dad, and it just shows like, whoa, we

459
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: go back real far. Yes, I just want those moments.

460
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 4: That's really sweet. And it was so it's Ocean's birthday,

461
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 4: and then shortly after cruise and then shortly after.

462
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: Summer yeah, and summer before Ocean is Hartford.

463
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 4: Whoa, Yes, that's really sweet.

464
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: And can I tell you I roll out of the

465
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: party and there was the guy, the same one the

466
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: paparazzi guy.

467
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

468
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: So I rolled up on him and he sees me coming.

469
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: He's like, what's up, La La? Like what the fuck

470
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: do you want?

471
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 4: Yeah?

472
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to say that I'm so sorry.

473
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with you that day, Like

474
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: I was just in a funk, Like you want to

475
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: know what's so crazy is? I talked to my partner

476
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 1: and I was like something had to have happened that

477
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: day because Lalla was not the Lalla that we know.

478
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: He was like, You're always so cool and so friendly,

479
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm I have been thinking about

480
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: it. It has happened.

481
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 4: How great is it that you got that chance to

482
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 4: say apologize.

483
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: I know I've been sitting on it. I'm like, I

484
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: hope that I see him again because that is not me.

485
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: And I told him. He was like, I know we

486
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: can be annoying, and I'm like, you're not annoying Without

487
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: you guys, like I don't have relevance, and he was like,

488
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: well that's not true, and I said it is like

489
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate what you guys do and you never annoy me.

490
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: But that day it had nothing to do with you.

491
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: I was just on some other shit. He was like, well,

492
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell tell my business partner that that's

493
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: not business partner. But he said my partner, I think

494
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: that they like do a duo with photographs. Okay, So

495
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: like I'm going to tell him that what we suspected

496
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 1: is true and you don't have to tell me what

497
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: you were going through.

498
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 4: Oh thank you have the best stay Now. That is

499
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 4: the bright note we needed after the after the Vegas

500
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 4: dark experiences. That's great.

501
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: Does my Vegas trip sound dark? Didn't know it doesn't.

502
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't it. But for how long was

503
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: I there was that? Forty three? Yeah?

504
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 4: Or I was gonna say three days, but you weren't.

505
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 4: It was three days total, so yeah, you were there

506
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 4: for like forty eight hours.

507
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: It was quick.

508
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

509
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: So out of those hours there were tiny little moments

510
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: of like, y'all.

511
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 4: Are crazy and look it's Vegas. It could have gotten

512
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 4: a lot darker, so it could have. Yeah, good for you.

513
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: I also met a guy in Vegas who told me

514
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: that his his dad is like a big wig big

515
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: wig big wig. Yeah, okay, whoa I'm using like really

516
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: old school?

517
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 4: Wait, well why was he like the kind of guy who.

518
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: Not at all? He's like his dad is actually a

519
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: big wig there and he was like, yeah, my dad

520
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 1: has really incredible clients that come in some times they

521
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: want hookers. And I was like how He was like,

522
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: you can find them everywhere.

523
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

524
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, are there any here right now?

525
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: Where are they?

526
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: So we walked around this bar. No, and he was

527
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: like that for sure. I was like, but she looks

528
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: so nice and he was like, doesn't matter. Everyone has

529
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: the type.

530
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 4: Everyone has them giving the Are they sitting alone?

531
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: Are they?

532
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: Like?

533
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were that were sitting alone. There were some

534
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 1: that I was like, like, there was this tall, lurpy

535
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: white guy with like glasses and he was with someone

536
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: who was like had piercings all over her face, like

537
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: really tight skinny clothing and she was and I was

538
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: like this one. You don't even need to tell me, Like.

539
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 4: But isn't it legal in Vegas or no?

540
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,719
Speaker 1: To be a hooker? I think so, I don't know.

541
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 4: I might be wrong, I always thought because I I

542
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 4: remember being like nineteen and walking down the street with

543
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 4: like my in Vegas with my group of guy friends,

544
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 4: and people were handing them cards of women like car

545
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 4: and it was like not some shady back alley, this

546
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: was like the main strip.

547
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: Then maybe because I know in Vegas you can totally

548
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: pay for like low jobs and lift dances in a

549
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: strip club. Right.

550
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 4: They never hired the women, by the way, but they

551
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 4: got the cards.

552
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they just throw them at anybody. Yeah, interest which,

553
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: by the way, can I tell you Vegas My favorite

554
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: thing about Vegas is not the going out part. It's

555
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: being in a fabulous hotel room with a fabulous bathroom

556
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: and room service.

557
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 4: And the beautiful view. Did you get a good view?

558
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: I got an ok vw okay view? Okay.

559
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 4: Have you ever gone on the the circular? I want

560
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 4: to call it a Ferris wheel, but it's not because

561
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 4: you're like in and enclosed.

562
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah I haven't done that. But you like the just.

563
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 4: The being well, of course that's very you being able

564
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 4: to light.

565
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: And I keep thinking, I keep thinking, like you need

566
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: to go out and about and like be a human.

567
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: And I did go out and about and I loved it.

568
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: It was great. But I now see, like I I

569
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: just enjoy I'm a homebody.

570
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 4: Yeah what you like?

571
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and fight it, don't fight it.

572
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 4: You're thirty one. I'm thirty.

573
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: By the way, the guy texted me, what guy the

574
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: guy who was come over, no, the other guy, remember

575
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: you got Okay, So there's a throwback guy, the throwback

576
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: guy that was very quick to say come over at

577
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: like eleven pm at night, yeah, or let me come

578
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: over yeah. Okay.

579
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: So what did he say?

580
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: He said, hey, and I don't save numbers. I just

581
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: I text and delete and if you never hit me

582
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 1: up again, like I have no way of contacting you,

583
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: and we just will never speak again. Okay. And so

584
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: I was like, who is this? And then he told me.

585
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, what's up. He was like, just

586
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: seeing what your plans are for the weekend. I said,

587
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,479
Speaker 1: I don't have any baby, that's my plan, my plan okay.

588
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: And then he said that he may have a birthday

589
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: to go tom And this is where I said, oh,

590
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: that sounds like a lot of fun. Let me know.

591
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: But I'm like, let me know if you have free time.

592
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

593
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 1: But I think he took it as let me know

594
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: if we're going to it, because he was like, oh

595
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: my bad. I meant like stop. I was like, I know,

596
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: I said that sounds like you'll have fun. Yes, let

597
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: me know if you're free, which, by the way, don't

598
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: let me know if you're free.

599
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 4: I'm just being polite.

600
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: I'm just being nice.

601
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: You know.

602
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: I could be like a dude and just be like

603
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: not engage with you. Yeah. He texted back for show

604
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: and I said nothing back. I was like, all right,

605
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: I have a great day.

606
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 4: I have a good Thanks for letting me know you're

607
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 4: going to the birthday.

608
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: Nothing in here for you, all right, nothing in here

609
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: for you. But it's good to know that when I'm

610
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: good and ready, you can be that guy.

611
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, there we go.

612
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: Because he's pretty hot, is he.

613
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, And maybe he can be the guy. But he

614
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 4: was a little too quick on the trigger. Maybe this

615
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 4: other DM guy who we don't know, who's a mystery,

616
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 4: the TV guy can.

617
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: Be the guy. Maybe he can be the guy.

618
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 4: Are you able to say if he lives around here?

619
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: He sometimes lives around here.

620
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 4: Okay, so he travels. We're getting more and more clues,

621
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 4: you guys. I'm just gonna keep pushing. Maybe you can ask.

622
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: No, I don't want anyone to know. But Katie and

623
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: I were talking to one of our producers at vander Pump. Yeah,

624
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: and Katie was like, well, Lata slid into someone's d

625
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: M La La La Lah and goes off and says

626
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: how we saw him whatever, And our producer was like, wait,

627
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: what's his name? And I was like, what the fuck

628
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: is his name? Again? Except for ho?

629
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 4: Also, you said his name. You don't think they're gonna.

630
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: No producer, producer will not do anything like that.

631
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: No.

632
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: My thing was like when vander Pump gets picked up

633
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 4: for another season. I was gonna say, you don't think

634
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 4: they're gonna push that in.

635
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: No, I think because producer, yea producer. Man, we won't

636
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: say which one it was. He's like that, and he

637
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: responded and he started blushing. He told me everything about him.

638
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 1: Stop everything about him.

639
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 4: Oh, this is making me really interesting.

640
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: You know a lot about him.

641
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 4: Okay, I think I have some idea. It's not of

642
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 4: the person, but of the career.

643
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: It's not going anywhere. Okay, I already know, Well, we

644
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: don't know, we do we do. There's certain people with

645
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: certain jobs that I'm like, you know what this like,

646
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: this is a deal breaker for me, and I have

647
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: to assume more times than not, this job description entails

648
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: certain things. Yeah, it's not going anywhere.

649
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see that. But in any job, there

650
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 4: are always the the what's the word I'm looking for,

651
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 4: like the people who don't act like that.

652
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: My brain is like fried right now, you guys an anomaly?

653
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, or like it's the there's a word whatever. There's exceptions,

654
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 4: an exception to the rule. Yes, I never know.

655
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think there's so few and far

656
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 1: between that I don't like, I don't even want to

657
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: venture into something that. And my cute mom she's like,

658
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: and I know, I just don't want you to get

659
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Speaker 1: your heart broken because she's got her eye on someone

660
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Speaker 1: for me.

661
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: She does, yeah, and I know that person.

662
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: And it's yes, And she's like, and I'm like, that's

663
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Speaker 1: the type of guy that you date and marry.

664
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and just a great thing. Lisa knows the good ones.

665
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Speaker 1: She does. She has a great picker. And I'm like,

666
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Speaker 1: when that time comes, then if he's still available, then

667
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: maybe we can try something out. Because she's like, that's

668
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: the guy for you. I'm like, I just I can't

669
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Speaker 1: even like, I just don't want to bring him into

670
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: my world when I'm not there yet exactly. And that's

671
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: like you and you do you date and marry this

672
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: guy that I'm talking about. I agree. So when I

673
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: told her that I slid into someone else's damn. She

674
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: was like very concerned. She's like, I don't want you

675
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: to get your heart broken. I was like, my heart

676
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: isn't available to get broken.

677
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Speaker 4: Yeah, like at all, I'm just having fun. I'm talking,

678
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: I'm doing because that's the thing too. You don't want

679
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 4: to like, yeah, you don't want to get into anything

680
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 4: too fast, or maybe you do, who knows, I don't know.

681
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 4: I'm just saying things that I think and like it

682
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 4: might be like a it wouldn't be healthy maybe if

683
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 4: you got into something that was with someone that's like, oh,

684
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 4: this is endgame so soon.

685
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely not.

686
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, some people do. Some people do and it works,

687
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: you know. You see the people who it's like they

688
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 4: end a relationship and then a couple months later they're

689
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 4: remarried and it's like, oh my god, look this was

690
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 4: the true love. So it could happen. But in a

691
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: lot of cases I've seen like uh, oh, red flag, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, thank you. Yeah, And I'm not ignoring anything. Yeah,

693
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: So that's where I'm at. I know that we again

694
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Speaker 1: talk about this topic a lot, but this is my

695
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Speaker 1: life right now, and if you guys can relate. What's

696
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Speaker 1: the new phone number? Take a line.

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Speaker 4: Well, the new phone number, you guys, we are trying

698
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Speaker 4: to get it, so it's a little something more easy.

699
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Speaker 1: But the new number to call me and share all

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Speaker 1: of your dating advice where you met your man's is

701
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Speaker 1: four two four two five five nine to one three one.

702
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Speaker 1: Please call me, leave a message because this is this

703
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Speaker 1: is my life right now and I'm looking for people

704
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: to like share similar experiences. When we come back, we

705
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: have such a fun guest. I love this podcast. We

706
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Speaker 1: just fucking wing it.

707
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: Wing it and talk to incredible people. I know who

708
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Speaker 4: You're like, oh, we think this person's incredible, and then.

709
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Speaker 1: You the port of my life is inspiring. Yeah, I

710
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: just want to be fucking inspired.

711
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Speaker 4: Is this next guest inspiring to you?

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent? So today, Yes, she's incredibly inspiring. Her

713
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Speaker 1: name's Jenny Gay. She is this to me, someone who

714
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Speaker 1: you knew. She wasn't happy in what she was doing

715
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: and decided to make a change. And for some reason,

716
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: people who are brave enough to do that, because there's

717
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Speaker 1: not many. When you sink into comfortability, it's very hard

718
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: to pull yourself out. And she was like, fuck it,

719
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Speaker 1: so we're gonna hear her story. She is an author

720
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Speaker 1: of a book called How We Blend, which is a

721
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: children's book, and she just goes on to talk about

722
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: how she walked into toy stories and bookstores and realized

723
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: the life and relationship she was in was not being represented,

724
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Speaker 1: and so I want to talk to her about it.

725
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Speaker 1: How she so not only was she brave enough to

726
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Speaker 1: make a change to change her life up, but she

727
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: took it upon herself to make a change in other areas.

728
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Speaker 1: So when we come back, we have Jenny Gay. I

729
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: love you guys so much. Thanks for listening to me

730
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Speaker 1: talk about being single and not getting dick. It's the

731
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: mantra single no dick. Right back, we are back with

732
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Speaker 1: Jenny Day. I'm so excited to have you on.

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Speaker 2: How are you, Jenny, I'm awesome? How are you?

734
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Speaker 1: We are doing fantastic. I have to say I looked

735
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: you up, I did my research, and you're obviously very inspiring.

736
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Speaker 1: And you know, the moves that you've made throughout your

737
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: little lifetime are really amazing, and I just want you

738
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: to walk me through like where you were when you

739
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: decided like I'm moving from Canada to London at the

740
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Speaker 1: age of twenty seven, Like how you got to where

741
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Speaker 1: you are now.

742
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: So my move from Canada to London is not as

743
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 2: exciting as I would like it to be. But essentially,

744
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: I was in investor relations, so basically doing like communications IPOs

745
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: fundraising for publicly listed companies. Super boring, but I was

746
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: doing quite well at a young age, and it was

747
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 2: just basically boredom, to be honest. To get into more

748
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: detail about it, I was doing IR for gold mining

749
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: companies at the time. The gold price dropped and it

750
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: wasn't going to recover anytime soon. So I just thought,

751
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: you know, if I'm going to have any excitement in

752
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: my life, you know, maybe now is the time to

753
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 2: do that. My best friend and roommate at the time,

754
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: we just kind of said, like fuck it, let's let's

755
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: go and move to London and just like check it out,

756
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: see what works, see what drops. And it worked out,

757
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: and so that, you know, I wish that story was

758
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: a little bit more exciting. Probably more exciting would be

759
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: the move from London up north to countryside Cheshire when

760
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: I met my partner. But yeah, that's that's that the

761
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: Toronto to London story.

762
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Speaker 1: I ended up. I'm from Utah and I'm telling you

763
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: I moved to La because it was the biggest city

764
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: that was the closest to where I was from.

765
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Speaker 2: Fair enough.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean you may not think it's exciting,

767
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: but I'm sitting here like that twenty seven. We're still

768
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: like we're young, and I feel like we're we're placed

769
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: in these boxes of what we're supposed to do. When

770
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: no one talks about you should do things that excite you,

771
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: you should do things that inspire you. It's more of like,

772
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: do something that's safe and that you earn a paycheck

773
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Speaker 1: and you can, you know, buy a home and get married.

774
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Speaker 1: Did did it? Like so my worst nightmare, worst nightmare nightmare?

775
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Speaker 2: Like some people holiday, I packed my shit up and

776
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 2: I moved Like right.

777
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Speaker 1: So, I mean, you're an entire vibe, and I have

778
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Speaker 1: to ask this. Before you met your partner, were you

779
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: dating men? Did you like? What was your like? It

780
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: was cookie cutter.

781
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: It was cookie collar girl.

782
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Speaker 1: All of the men, all of the men.

783
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Speaker 2: The men Smorgan's bored. No, it was yeah, I did.

784
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: I dated men. I didn't really like everyone's you know,

785
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: stories different in terms of their secucluidity whatnot. I didn't

786
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: even think about me having any other sexuality other than hetero.

787
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, it's just it wasn't my experience. It

788
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: wasn't really what I was exposed to. I mean, like,

789
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: of course, like I went to drag shows, gay clubs, whatever.

790
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: I just didn't think it was me. I don't know why.

791
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: And actually there's a lot of women that I meet

792
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: in their thirty specifically like our bracket, like thirty to

793
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: forty that came out later in life they call it

794
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Speaker 2: like late to lesbian, that have a similar kind of

795
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: story where it was like, it wasn't really anything I

796
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: thought about until something sparked it and I thought about

797
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: it and then I was like, Okay, maybe that's what's missing.

798
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: And it was then that was And was it your partner?

799
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Speaker 1: Was it your partner that you have now that sparked it?

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00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: No, So, like all cards on the table, I think

801
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 2: when I moved from Toronto to London and I was

802
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: away from everyone that I knew, my family and not

803
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: that I don't have like a lovely, supportive, open family,

804
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: wasn't that at all. It's just for me. I think

805
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: getting away from like a whole life that i'd lived

806
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 2: and starting kind of fresh, I think gave me the

807
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: confidence to explore myself a little bit more without eyes

808
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: and judgment. And then once I started to explore it

809
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: a little bit more, I was like, yeah, this is

810
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Speaker 2: And so I did date. I dated lots of women

811
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Speaker 2: and you know, still a little bit of men. But

812
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: once I really kind of had that first relationship with

813
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: a woman, I was like, this is absolutely for me.

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Speaker 1: I love that was it. I mean, there's so many

815
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Speaker 1: times that I'm hanging out with my best friend and

816
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, I so wish that we could just

817
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: have sex and totally dig it because emotionally, I see you.

818
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and there is there's such a thing

819
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Speaker 2: as being an emotional lesbian or a sexual lesbian.

820
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Speaker 1: Really wait, teach me about this.

821
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Speaker 2: So I do think that, like, there's a lot of

822
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Speaker 2: women who are emotional lesbians, and those are the women

823
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: who are like obsessive about their friendship with women, okay,

824
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: and then there's women who it's like, sexually, it's all

825
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 2: about women, but emotionally it's not.

826
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Speaker 1: Wow, I love that you just spilled that. Because I

827
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: am obsessed with my relationships with women. I surround myself

828
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Speaker 1: with women. I feel most comfortable with them, I feel

829
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: most bonded to them. Yeah, so you're making all of

830
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: the sense in the world. When did you meet she's

831
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Speaker 1: your wife? Correct, you're marriage girl. Oh my goshang shang,

832
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: I love it. Flash of the bling. When did the

833
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: two of you meet?

834
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Speaker 2: So we met in twenty sixteen in London, So I

835
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 2: was living in London. She was kind of going back

836
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: and forth because obviously she has her kids in Cheshires

837
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: as well as London. And we met on Tinder. Wow, yeah,

838
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 2: we swiped. You wiped, we swiped her.

839
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Speaker 1: Life, you swiped And how many dates did you go

840
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: on before? Or was like this is this is the one.

841
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: I only want to date her and the goal is

842
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: marriage with this person.

843
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: So I'm like a notorious not commitment ful. But I've

844
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: never been that girl who was like I want to

845
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: get married, I want to like lock it down, I

846
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 2: want to have kids. I want to a family.

847
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: Wait, even when you were living in Canada, even when

848
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: you were like in the cookie get, you still were

849
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Speaker 1: like not that wasn't you.

850
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: No, I was like career focused, travel, going out, yeah,

851
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: making money like that was kind of always having fun

852
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: my focus. It's I just was never that girl. And

853
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: when I met her, literally the first day or like

854
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: the first date. I remember we were at this bar

855
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: in London called Madison Rooftop Bar, and it's right in

856
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: front of Saint Paul's Cathedral. It has like the most

857
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: amazing view and you have to take an elevator up

858
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: to the top floor. And I felt like a school

859
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: arm because I was in like business attire, and she

860
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: these elevator doors opened and this like pint size like

861
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 2: little rockstar chick like gets the elevator and I was like, fuck,

862
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: like this is going to be a problem for me.

863
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: Like I knew right away it was going to be

864
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: a problem in a good way. And yeah, and we

865
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: like shut the bar down that night. And I messaged

866
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: my best friend Michelle the next day and I was like,

867
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Speaker 2: I think I might be screwed a little bit here.

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00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: I just got chills.

869
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like I want to see her like again,

870
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: and she's like really, like that's not like I was like, yeah, twice.

871
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: That's huge for you.

872
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: Twice yeah. Yeah. And then when I met her kids

873
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: and everything, like it just it just clicked like it

874
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: was for me. It was just instantaneously I knew that

875
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: not in like what capacity your relationship was going to

876
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: kind of take shape, but I knew that I wanted

877
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: her in my life in some capacity.

878
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: So she has two kids, yeah, and was she were

879
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: did she adopt? Did she have them on her own?

880
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: Was she with a man? No?

881
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: So she was married to a woman and they had

882
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: the children through IBS. Okay, actually the same doctor that

883
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 2: I'm using. I'm in LA right now currently doing IBS,

884
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 2: but we're using the same doctor. Wow. Yeah, he's amazing,

885
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: Like they're just the most gorgeous children. So I was like, yeah,

886
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: I'll do that again.

887
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that had to have been I don't want

888
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: to use the word intimidating, but it had to have

889
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: been intimidating. I mean, you make this big move. You

890
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 1: were only dating men. Now you find this woman who

891
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 1: you want to see again, she has children. I mean,

892
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 1: was it scary that you were going to be a

893
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: step mom?

894
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 2: It was completely natural.

895
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: It was natural for me, natural.

896
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: Like for me with her, and I mean obviously I

897
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: dated loads of other women before her, but there's just

898
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: something about her and I that, like our chemistry, the

899
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: way that we just work together. And then the second

900
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: she introduced me to the children, and that dynamic got

901
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: brought in I was like, we're a unit, like and

902
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to be away from the unit.

903
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: That is so beautiful. And when I when I say

904
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: is it's you know, I so often use words where

905
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: I've been a step mom before, and you know, it's

906
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: not scary for us being the step mom, but it

907
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: is in the sense where you're stepping into a role

908
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: where there's this very fine line that we have to

909
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: be aware of. But you love these you know kids

910
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: so much and you want to see them thrive in life,

911
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: but you always know that there's that boundary. And so

912
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: I'm always curious with other women and men who become stepparents,

913
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: like how the dynamic is in the home, And to

914
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: hear that it was just so natural for you is incredible.

915
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think like, I'm not completely familiar with your situation,

916
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: but I feel like your step kids are a little

917
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: bit older.

918
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, how old were the kids when you met them?

919
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: So the children were one and three, so I'm all

920
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 2: they know in terms of another parent. So for them,

921
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: they have three moms, they have three parents that are

922
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: all equal for them.

923
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: So you're now in this situation where you're a step mom,

924
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: and at what point in time because you're you. You

925
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: broke free from like a pretty like we said, cookie

926
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: cutter job to now you're living your best life.

927
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: The best life, right, the good things, yeah, all of.

928
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: The good things. I mean, I'm looking at you like

929
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: you look happy and free, and I want everything that

930
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: you have. Right now, you're walking down like aisles and

931
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: toy stores and you're realizing that you and your family,

932
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: who so many others are just like you, are not

933
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: being represented.

934
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely in a very obvious way.

935
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: And this is this is a stupid question, and I

936
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: know the answer, but for a lot of my listeners,

937
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 1: what is what are the obvious ways that you see

938
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: that your community and many others, many other family units

939
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: are not represented.

940
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: It's not even an LGBTQ less thing. This is like

941
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: a blended family. Like anything that steps out of the

942
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: heteronormative nuclear family dynamic is very underrepresented. Now there's an

943
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: argument to say, like, oh, well, there's all of these

944
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,479
Speaker 2: examples and I could name some of them right now

945
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: that aren't that do have representation of color and representation

946
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: of LGBTQ and blah blah blah, But you got to

947
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: dig for it, right, it's not mainstream, it's not like

948
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: you're not going to walk in to a shop in

949
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 2: the grocery store and you're going to see a book

950
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: about divorced parents who are black in Asian. You're just

951
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 2: not going to see it. So it's in every family

952
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: problem for me, because there's to me, the mainstream is

953
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: only really giving proper representation for one form of family,

954
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: and it's just not our experience anymore. Like fifty percent

955
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 2: of you know, marriages ending in divorce, and the fact

956
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 2: that there's step children and stepparents, you know, cousins, step cousins,

957
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 2: and lesbian families and gay families at a trans dynamic.

958
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: You know, there's all of these incredibly beautiful ways that

959
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: people could create and have families, and yet we're only

960
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 2: truly seeing one representation of that in mainstream.

961
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: No, You're absolutely right. And can I tell you the

962
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: first time I ever noticed this. So I, like I said,

963
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm from Utah and my best friend, her aunt was

964
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: a lesbian and they were together since the time, like

965
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: I met them at the age of five, and they

966
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: both used IVF to get pregnant. Each of them had

967
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: a baby. And I always wondered when I would read

968
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: certain books or we would read in class how they

969
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: were going to be represented when their two kids had

970
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: to go to school like I was going to school.

971
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: Yep.

972
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm grateful that the things that I

973
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: got to experience and witness when I was a child.

974
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: You know, as I grew up, there were things that

975
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: it was just like, Oh, I have friends that come

976
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: from you know, this dynamic or that dynamic, but not

977
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: everybody does. And I also think about the kid because

978
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, fifty percent of marriages don't

979
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: work out. My child will never know what it's like

980
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: to have her parents be a couple. Now. Is that

981
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: a blessing that she's so young that she won't know

982
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: any different? Yes? But also when she goes to school,

983
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: what is she going to see or read that she's

984
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: going to feel like she can connect with?

985
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? And you know what, the issue as well is

986
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: that you're not an exception to the rule. Neither am I.

987
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: Our children are living a reality that is not being

988
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: reflected in what they're reading and consuming and engaging with

989
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: every day. Now how confusing is that to a developing

990
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: psyche and you know, emotional sentient person. If everyone I'm

991
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 2: seeing and engaging with doesn't look like what I'm reading

992
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 2: or watching on television. It's a very confusing message. So

993
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 2: this is why, like we need more representation of reality.

994
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 1: Well you decided to take the bull by the balls

995
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: and do just that. Yes, so your very first book,

996
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: like you did you say like I'm seeing a lack

997
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: of this in bookstores toy stores, Like I'm going to

998
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: be the change and this is what I'm doing or

999
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: how did that idea evolve?

1000
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: So it started off just wanting to write something for

1001
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: my kids, my step kids, like something we could read

1002
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: together every night. And I just kind of morphed into

1003
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: a bigger idea in the sense that I was like,

1004
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: we're not the only people. And also it's not just

1005
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 2: about my kids reality, it's also about So I have

1006
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: the books and stuff in some of the schools in

1007
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: the UK, and I'm doing like a lot of kind

1008
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 2: of talks across the schools as well, just about difference

1009
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 2: and diversity. And it's not just about like, oh, this

1010
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 2: child is adopted and therefore they should have representation in

1011
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: the books that they're reading. It's about the kids who

1012
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: who might be gay, not that their parents are gay.

1013
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 2: It's about they might be gay. Or they might grow

1014
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 2: up one day to adopt, And it's like just understanding

1015
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: that there are multiple ways that you can be a

1016
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 2: human and that you can live, and that you can

1017
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: multiple way you can have a family. And so it's

1018
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 2: not just about creating a reality that is their family,

1019
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 2: but for them to be able to grow up to

1020
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: know that they can be exactly who they are.

1021
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, everything you're saying is giving me chills

1022
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: because you're you're right, And I also I love that

1023
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: you put out there because I often think, you know,

1024
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm a grown adult. I can handle certain things, but

1025
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: like you said, for children, that is so confusing to

1026
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: not be able to connect with something for child psyche.

1027
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 1: How many books do you have right now?

1028
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 2: So right now it's just the one book, but there's

1029
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 2: two other books that I would like to publish that

1030
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: are kind of like a series of three. So it's

1031
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 2: six stories and one book, but then there's two subsequent

1032
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 2: books I'd like to release that kind of bring in

1033
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: different elements, like the various ways that different religions would

1034
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: celebrate holidays, as well as socioeconomics as well, so the

1035
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: fact that there'll be children in their class who parents

1036
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,959
Speaker 2: all have, you know, different amounts of money or whatever.

1037
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: And they might celebrate summer holidays different so some might

1038
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: have staycations. I might go to Europe, some might you

1039
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 2: know whatever. And how all of those kind of you know,

1040
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: intricacies of our lives and the differences that we have,

1041
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: how that all works together.

1042
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: It's beautiful and I'm so happy that that you're doing it.

1043
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: And I can't believe that it just started with like

1044
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: what a sweet story that you just like created these

1045
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: stories for your step kids and thought there's a much

1046
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: bigger picture here.

1047
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah.

1048
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: And how old are your step kids now?

1049
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 2: They're eight and six?

1050
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is you know, they're so cut

1051
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: fun boy, these girls both.

1052
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: So the oldest girl so, her name is Frankie Francesca,

1053
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: and the youngest Harry he's or Harrison, he's six. Yeah,

1054
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 2: and they're just so great because they're at those ages

1055
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: where they're completely coming into their personalities and the stats

1056
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: and like the you know, I just love it.

1057
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: Well, and I've realized that kids come how they are, Like,

1058
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: my my daughter is one, and you know, you you've

1059
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: been around a one year old before. Yeah, I'm telling you, Jenny,

1060
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: she will look me dead in my eyes at the

1061
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: age of one. Like I don't need you, mama. I

1062
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: am independent and there is not a thing I can

1063
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: do about it.

1064
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Like you know nothing. That's that's how they

1065
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 2: write you.

1066
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: I know nothing, and I just know like, oh my gosh,

1067
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: this is who she is. And as she gets older,

1068
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: like her personality is from somewhere else.

1069
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's somewhere else where. She got

1070
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: from me.

1071
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: No, I did this, but like I'm like, oh my gosh,

1072
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: my poor mom. This is how she felt when I

1073
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: was like I would call it karma. That is that's

1074
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: exactly what it is. So now here you are, you're

1075
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, how are you feeling? Because I know

1076
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: IVF is no joke.

1077
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 2: No joke. Yeah. So literally, my my medications descrive today.

1078
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 1: Okay, the stuff pokey stuff. Yeah, how are you with shots?

1079
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: Fine? So like that stuff doesn't that doesn't shake me,

1080
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 2: Like that's like all puncture myself. It's fine. I'm more

1081
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 2: concerned about what it's going to do to me. So

1082
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to be I'm not an overly emotional person.

1083
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: So like the thought that I could be like sad

1084
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: one minute and like super happy and like the next

1085
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 2: just you know, scares me so that I'm.

1086
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 4: Right, are you?

1087
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 1: Are you a control freak?

1088
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: Probably depends on who you talk to, who.

1089
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: You who you ask Yeah, because I feel like everyone

1090
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: that I've asked who is who has done IVF, They're

1091
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: like the fact that I had zero control over how

1092
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: I was feeling and I couldn't change it was like

1093
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: very difficult.

1094
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm just you hear different varying stories, degrees

1095
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 2: of how it affects if some women, you know, doesn't

1096
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: really affect them all that much, some women gain weight,

1097
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 2: some women, like you know, have mood swings. I'm just

1098
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 2: going to release it and like see what.

1099
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: Happens, release it into the atmosphere.

1100
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's the only thing you can do. I'm likely

1101
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 2: go on hikes and just you know, keep active and whatnot,

1102
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 2: just to keep your brain clear.

1103
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. And is this the first time that you'll be

1104
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: doing it the first round of like the shots and

1105
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: all of that.

1106
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, so I've yeah, I've not done it before,

1107
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 2: so I'm I'm a little bit scared. But it was

1108
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: really overwhelming because I was just expecting like a little

1109
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 2: you know, FedEx box or whatever to arrive and it

1110
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 2: be like, oh, here's your needles and your injections and whatever.

1111
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: This thing was a mahosive box packed with like ice

1112
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: packs and all this kind of stuff, and it was

1113
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: huge and I have to like put it all in

1114
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 2: the fridge. And I was like, well, it was so overwhelming.

1115
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 2: It's like nobody prepared me for that. Like that's not

1116
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: what I was expecting. So I'm sure there's going to

1117
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 2: be loads of stuff like that along the way. So

1118
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: I'm just going to kind of take it as it comes.

1119
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: Take it as it comes, and I'm just so excited

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00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: for your journey.

1121
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: I mean, thank you me too.

1122
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: So when how many shots do you have to do

1123
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: before it's like we're ready?

1124
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 2: So I think it depends. So you do I'm doing

1125
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 2: like one week, and then you go in for stance

1126
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: and they kind of check things out just to see

1127
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: how you're progressing okay, and then from there they can

1128
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: add more meds or keep you on whatever you're on.

1129
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: They check the levels, check.

1130
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: The levels, all that kind of stuff, so it can

1131
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: just it depends, but usually I think it takes about

1132
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 2: two or three weeks and then like towards the end

1133
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 2: of the third week. I believe it's and that's when

1134
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: they do the egg retrieval. Then they do the they

1135
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: create the embryos with their sperm donor.

1136
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm so excited for you.

1137
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 2: I know, it's crazy what they can do. Like honestly,

1138
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 2: it's like it's magic. I know, like science is magic.

1139
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: It's insane.

1140
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you said that that science is magic

1141
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: because can I tell you when when I sit here

1142
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: and I talk about like how my baby was made

1143
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: and all of the like mumbo jumbo that these like

1144
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: doctors spew at me about science, I'm like, no, this

1145
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: is a miracle. But science is a miracle. So there

1146
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: you it is.

1147
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 2: It is. Yeah, It's like it's honestly, it's such a

1148
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 2: privilege that I get to, you know, experience it and

1149
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: do it. And that's just kind of why I'm not

1150
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: gonna stress too much about it and I'm just going

1151
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: to take it as it comes and you know, do

1152
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: my best to make it a success. Yeah.

1153
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: Well, I am so excited for you. I'm so excited

1154
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: that I had you on the podcast. And where can

1155
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: people find you and like share your journey or you know,

1156
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: join your journey, And where can we get the book.

1157
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: So you can get the book online at Amazon okay.

1158
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 2: So it's called how We Blend, so literally, the little

1159
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 2: boy's name is Howie and his last name is Blend.

1160
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 4: Oh cute.

1161
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little play on words and.

1162
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: So cute.

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00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. You can find it on Amazon, Barnes and Noble,

1164
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: leave Walmart. In the UK, there's W. H. Smith. It's global,

1165
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: so I would just type it into your search bar,

1166
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: but certainly on Amazon. On you can find it okay,

1167
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: and then you can also follow at how We Blend

1168
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: on Instagram and Facebook.

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00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: Amazing. I really Ocean loves books so much, so I

1170
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: will definitely be ordering that book. I appreciate everything that

1171
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: you've shared today, and thank you for being on the

1172
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: Give Them Lala podcast.

1173
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me Lala. That was fun.