Speaker 1: Hello, Hello.
Speaker 2: We are so excited that we finally got to make
Speaker 2: this official announcement. Episode one of our new film podcasts,
Speaker 2: Dear Movies, I Love You has arrived.
Speaker 3: That's right, and now you're about to listen to an
Speaker 3: advanced screening of their premiere episode.
Speaker 2: Whether you're a full on film buff or just in
Speaker 2: it for the popcorn, this is the movie podcast for you.
Speaker 3: Hosts Millie de Cherico and Casey O'Brien cover everything in
Speaker 3: the world of film, from the good and the bad
Speaker 3: to the ugly.
Speaker 2: So grab your bucket of soda, sit back, and enjoy
Speaker 2: the very first episode of Exactly Right's newest member of
Speaker 2: the family, Dear Movies, I Love You.
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Speaker 3: YOUPKA movie lovers.
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Speaker 4: Hello, Casey O'Brien, Hi Millie to Jericho. How are you?
Speaker 4: Oh great?
Speaker 5: I mean you know what we're doing right now?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we are doing a new podcast, you and I
Speaker 6: both of us making a movie podcast together. It's thrilling,
Speaker 6: it's terrifying, and it's liberating all at once.
Speaker 4: That's right. Yeah, this is our very first episode and
Speaker 4: we're really excited because we've got a lot of stuff
Speaker 4: to cover. First off, we're gonna kick off the show
Speaker 4: with something we're calling film Diary, and I was wondering, Casey,
Speaker 4: can you tell them what it is?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I can do that. This is our the movies
Speaker 6: we've watched, like in the last week, and we're gonna
Speaker 6: be discussing the movies we have most recently watched. Now,
Speaker 6: these are not necessarily recommendations. This is just like our extracurriculars.
Speaker 6: These are our studies as film enthusiasts. You know, we're
Speaker 6: trying to like mine through all of film, of all
Speaker 6: of time. You know, both of us were both students
Speaker 6: of film. So these aren't necessarily recommendations. Some of these
Speaker 6: might suck, frankly.
Speaker 4: A lot of them will probably a lot of them.
Speaker 6: Well, yes, you got to break a lot of eggs,
Speaker 6: kiss a lot of frogs.
Speaker 4: Also, we're going to talk about drinking in the movies, so,
Speaker 4: you know, movies that feature complete drunks or people that
Speaker 4: are trying to get off the stuff.
Speaker 5: Whatever it is, we're going to be talking about it.
Speaker 4: But we're also going to really like hammer into one
Speaker 4: movie in particular, and that is twenty eighteen's US Star
Speaker 4: is Born featuring Lady Gaga Bradley Cooper, and we might
Speaker 4: even talk a little bit about Bradley Cooper as a
Speaker 4: director as well.
Speaker 6: And today we have the wonderful comedian in Chile with Sharp.
Speaker 6: She's on to talk about her area of expertise, which
Speaker 6: was important to both of us when you say, Millie.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, we had a very emotional conversation with Chilea.
Speaker 4: How about a topic that is you know, near and
Speaker 4: dear to all of our hearts, which is the Magic
Speaker 4: Mike franchise.
Speaker 6: Oh so fabulous. Much more to come on, Dear Movies,
Speaker 6: I love.
Speaker 7: You, I love you, and I've got to know you
Speaker 7: love me to check the box.
Speaker 4: Welcome everyone to theor Movies I Love you. This is
Speaker 4: a podcast for those who are in a romantic relationship
Speaker 4: with film.
Speaker 6: That's right, those who are down bad for film, those
Speaker 6: who have a crush on film, those are using movies
Speaker 6: as a way to fill your sexual and amorous holes
Speaker 6: into your life. I don't know if that's the right
Speaker 6: way of expressing that. But it's for those who sincerely,
Speaker 6: sincerely love film and care about it very deeply.
Speaker 4: That's right. I am one of your hosts, Milia to Cherco.
Speaker 4: I used to to a film podcast. Yep, it was
Speaker 4: called I Saw What You Did. It was on this
Speaker 4: very network. It's probably on the feed that you're listening
Speaker 4: to right now.
Speaker 6: This is the same feed. It's the same channel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can go back and listen to all two
Speaker 4: hundred something episodes of it if you want to. But
Speaker 4: I did that podcast with my co host Daniel Henderson,
Speaker 4: who is one of my dearest friends. And Casey, you
Speaker 4: were a part of that podcast too. You were actually
Speaker 4: the producer of that podcast, right.
Speaker 6: That's right. I produced that wonderful podcast. And this is
Speaker 6: sort of, you know, a phoenix rising out of the
Speaker 6: ashes of I Saw What you did. And I'm just
Speaker 6: so thrilled and thankful that you wanted to have me
Speaker 6: be a part of this show Milely in this capacity.
Speaker 4: That's right. I mean, you know, it's not unlike a
Speaker 4: star is born, if you think about it.
Speaker 5: I did find you in.
Speaker 4: A total dump yeap plucked you out of obscurity and
Speaker 4: put you on. That's right. But anyway, the thing about
Speaker 4: doing a podcast with you is that this is like
Speaker 4: a new thing. I'm very excited by it. I know
Speaker 4: a little bit about you. I won't say I know
Speaker 4: everything about you, but I do know that you've got
Speaker 4: a lot of film bonafides, which makes you qualify a
Speaker 4: toast podcasts with me, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 6: Sure? I guess so. First of all, I produced an
Speaker 6: excellent movie podcast before this one called I Saw What
Speaker 6: You Did.
Speaker 4: As we've already covered, I've produced.
Speaker 6: Several movie podcasts, but also, like you, Millie, I went
Speaker 6: to film school lot and so hopefully, you know, we
Speaker 6: can throughout the course of this podcast, we can get
Speaker 6: some of those, like you know, film school tales, and
Speaker 6: we can bring up our time in film school because
Speaker 6: that's sort of a funny time in everyone's life. So anyways,
Speaker 6: went to film school. I also would consider myself a filmmaker,
Speaker 6: would because I do make short films and I'm working
Speaker 6: on a feature film right now, and I really love movies.
Speaker 6: They're a big part of my life and my creative identity.
Speaker 6: I also used to host a film podcast that's right
Speaker 6: called fart House, where we talked about artsy fartsy films,
Speaker 6: and I did that with my friend Patrick mallin.
Speaker 4: What's up Patrick, Listen, Like you might be wondering. I mean,
Speaker 4: I think obviously if you're a fan of asolog did
Speaker 4: you have heard many episodes where Danielle and I had
Speaker 4: talked about you know, film bros. You know, you know
Speaker 4: the type film bros. Sure, we're trying to like, you know,
Speaker 4: bring some other people to the table. And so for me,
Speaker 4: the idea that I would be hosting a new film
Speaker 4: podcast with a guy who went to film school, you know,
Speaker 4: might be kind of unexpected. But guess what, you're a
Speaker 4: good one. You're not a film bro. You're not a
Speaker 4: film bro. I will stand by that one thousand percent.
Speaker 6: Well, thank you, I appreciate that, Millie. I think that
Speaker 6: it's not unlike Wharf in Star Trek. You know, he's
Speaker 6: a Klingon and a lot of people have a you
Speaker 6: know thought him as you know, the Klingon race is
Speaker 6: very violent. But you know, people just need to understand
Speaker 6: that Wharf is a gentle soul and you know, over
Speaker 6: time they accept him.
Speaker 5: So I'll just be plain honest with you. Have no
Speaker 5: idea what you.
Speaker 4: Just said I've never seen Star Trek in my entire life.
Speaker 6: That's fine, I won't bring it up again on the show.
Speaker 6: But anyways, I appreciate that. And I think, you know
Speaker 6: more than just film brodum.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 6: I think there's a kind of there can be kind
Speaker 6: of a lot of rules in terms of and they're
Speaker 6: all imagined, of course, but like there's a lot of
Speaker 6: pressure to think about movies in a very specific way.
Speaker 6: A lot of that is, you know, it tends to
Speaker 6: be from like a more male point of view, and
Speaker 6: it's kind of like these are the good movies, these
Speaker 6: are the bad movies. If you like these movies, you're cool.
Speaker 6: If you like these movies, you drool, you know. And
Speaker 6: I think this podcast wants to kind of dash away
Speaker 6: any sort of pretension or you know, rules about what
Speaker 6: you need to do in order to consider yourself a
Speaker 6: lover of movies. You know, if you sincerely love a movie,
Speaker 6: even if it's considered you know, a bad movie by
Speaker 6: some that should be celebrated. And that's what this podcast
Speaker 6: is about. It's about like enjoying film at all levels. Yes,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I agree, And I also think it's important to say that,
Speaker 4: you know. I mean, I think obviously the title of
Speaker 4: this podcast here Movies, I Love You, the icon that
Speaker 4: pops up when you pull it up on your podcast platform.
Speaker 4: You know, the idea that one of our favorite bands
Speaker 4: of all time, the Softies, has done the wonderful theme song.
Speaker 4: It all contributes to this idea of like again having
Speaker 4: a crush on a film, having an emotional relationship to movies,
Speaker 4: and how movies are a big part of people's lives
Speaker 4: and they help them through like hard times and good times.
Speaker 4: I mean, I cry all the time in movies and
Speaker 4: they don't have to be sad. I cry at happy movies.
Speaker 4: I cry it sweet movies, I cry it you know,
Speaker 4: violent films. Like I am such an emotional person that
Speaker 4: I you know, I've realized this over several years of therapy.
Speaker 5: I'm a very emotional person.
Speaker 4: And I think kind of what you're alluding to, like
Speaker 4: with the things that you've just said, is that, like
Speaker 4: a lot of times, you know, film is one of
Speaker 4: those mediums where people feel like they got to be
Speaker 4: like super analytical or they have you know, they got
Speaker 4: to come at it in a very kind of sterile
Speaker 4: way in order to seem legitimate or something, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: fuck that we should be talking about our crush on
Speaker 4: movies and talking about how much we love it and
Speaker 4: how much they get us through our lives and how
Speaker 4: they're a part of our lives. So that's what it's
Speaker 4: gonna be, guys. It's not gonna be this whole like, well,
Speaker 4: the box office numbers from nineteen eighty nine show that
Speaker 4: this movie did five percent better. I mean, if that
Speaker 4: comes up, it comes up. But for the most part,
Speaker 4: you know, we're gonna be a little sensitivo.
Speaker 6: Well, we're gonna be sensitivo. I'm a very emotional person.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: I've said before that I consider myself a soft straight.
Speaker 6: I'm a softy, and I love rom coms are like
Speaker 6: kind of my favorite genre of film. But I also
Speaker 6: I'll throw on Salo. Wait, who's the director of Salo Pasolini? Pasolini,
Speaker 6: which is a movie that is one of the most
Speaker 6: I don't know, sexually violent and perverse and there's a
Speaker 6: lot of like eating poop in it, and uh.
Speaker 4: Great date night movie, great date night movie.
Speaker 6: But it's a very extreme art house movie from the seventies,
Speaker 6: is that one it's from? But anyways, you know, I
Speaker 6: can throw on that movie as much as I can
Speaker 6: throw on you know, Sleepless in Seattle, a movie I
Speaker 6: truly love. So I think this is more about the
Speaker 6: emotional connection to film rather than any sort of intellectual
Speaker 6: debate or study of film. If that all makes sense.
Speaker 5: It all totally makes sense.
Speaker 4: I mean we are intellectuals, We're emotional intellectuals, exactly, That's right.
Speaker 4: I think that's I think that is what brings us
Speaker 4: together and why we thought this show would be good
Speaker 4: is because I think we both seem so tough and
Speaker 4: hard on the outside, but on the inside.
Speaker 6: We're just we're marshmallows, you know, We're a big softies.
Speaker 5: We're not unlike John Wick, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: We're exactly like in so many ways, We're exactly like
Speaker 6: John That's right.
Speaker 4: But you know what also I like about you, Casey,
Speaker 4: and part of the reason why I poach you from
Speaker 4: the film podcast streets to be on a podcast with me.
Speaker 4: I like that you understand that high art and lower
Speaker 4: art they both are able to sit at the same table.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, yeah, I think that way about food too. A
Speaker 6: great I used to work at a very fancy restaurant
Speaker 6: in La Jelina and love the food there. But I'm
Speaker 6: a frequent McDonald's. I'm in there getting a mc rib
Speaker 6: you know, on the regular when it's there. So yes,
Speaker 6: I agree, high and low they're the same. They sit
Speaker 6: at the same table.
Speaker 4: For me, if I were to like talk about my
Speaker 4: own career and the things that I've done, like programming
Speaker 4: and writing and things like, you know, sort of being
Speaker 4: sort of general film historian type, I think that's kind
Speaker 4: of how I approach That's how I approach film, is
Speaker 4: that I'm like, I want to speak in a smart,
Speaker 4: intellectual kind of I don't know, competent way about all
Speaker 4: kinds of shit. It can be high brow, but it
Speaker 4: also there is a way to talk about show Girls
Speaker 4: and ed Wood and you know, like truly depraved cinema
Speaker 4: at the same time that you talk about I don't know,
Speaker 4: more sort of intellectual affair, the kind of criterion collection,
Speaker 4: any type of things. If you will, yes to me,
Speaker 4: that's kind of what I like about us, both as
Speaker 4: that we're able to kind of get you a man
Speaker 4: that can do both type of feeling.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So, and all are welcome at this table all
Speaker 6: levels of filmdom. We'll be excited to listen to this show.
Speaker 6: We'll talk about, you know, art house filmmakers like Ingmar Bergman,
Speaker 6: but we'll also talk about silly movies like Adam Sandler's
Speaker 6: Who be Halloween. I don't know, that's just an example
Speaker 6: a movie I like who But anyways, that's sort of
Speaker 6: the crux of our new podcast, our new endeavor together,
Speaker 6: and we're psyched. Were psyched about it.
Speaker 4: We just wanted to do a little intention setting before
Speaker 4: we rolled out all the other episodes. But hopefully you're
Speaker 4: on the ride with us. I mean, if you liked
Speaker 4: I saw what you did, you're gonna like this podcast.
Speaker 4: So we're excited. Here we go, We're excited to be here.
Speaker 6: Well, moving on, our first segment is called film Diary Millie.
Speaker 6: One way of keeping track of the movies we've watched
Speaker 6: is on a social media app that we both use,
Speaker 6: and I'd love if listeners followed us on there because
Speaker 6: the comments I'm making on these movies are hilarious.
Speaker 4: Cannot be ignored.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they can follow us on there. You like Letterbox
Speaker 6: as an app, you use it, you're a user.
Speaker 5: I'm a user, of course.
Speaker 4: I talked about this on my substack once about how
Speaker 4: I probably use letterbox in the wrong way, which is
Speaker 4: that I'm not like consistently using.
Speaker 5: So here's letterbox, right.
Speaker 4: If you haven't been on it before, it's basically a
Speaker 4: way for you to kind of catalog the movies that
Speaker 4: you've seen. You know, there's an ability to rate it
Speaker 4: like five star, you know, one to five stars or
Speaker 4: no stars. You can leave reviews. There's a kind of
Speaker 4: social component to where you can friend other people and
Speaker 4: see what they've been watching and see what they've been reviewing.
Speaker 4: So it's kind of just like a big social media
Speaker 4: platform for movie nerds. And there are definitely power users
Speaker 4: out there who are writing like thousand word essays on
Speaker 4: every movie they've seen. Yes, I am real lucy goosy
Speaker 4: about it. I definitely catalog everything that I've seen, so
Speaker 4: my film diary is always accurate. Am I reviewing things
Speaker 4: all the time?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 4: Am I writing intelligent things in those reviews? No?
Speaker 5: Am I rating it with the star system?
Speaker 4: Not all the time. That's another topic for another time.
Speaker 4: By the way, is the star rating system on Letterbox?
Speaker 4: Maybe that's a film grape we can talk about. Sure, Yes,
Speaker 4: because it's very contentious and I've gotten called out on
Speaker 4: it before, but please find us on there because it's
Speaker 4: a way for us. We're going to be like talking
Speaker 4: about Letterboxed a lot because this is like again where
Speaker 4: we're cataloging what we've seen. But first and foremost, I
Speaker 4: have to say, Casey, I don't know if you remember
Speaker 4: this at all.
Speaker 6: But it took you eight I'm going to be upset
Speaker 6: that you're bringing I'm upset that you're bringing this set
Speaker 6: the people continue no that.
Speaker 4: It took you a very long time to friend me
Speaker 4: back on letterbox.
Speaker 6: So MILLI followed me on. And it's not exactly like
Speaker 6: you're not really friends on a letterbox. You basically follow
Speaker 6: someone and then they can follow you back. It's not
Speaker 6: like accepting a friend request on Facebook and you're mind
Speaker 6: it's not it was for me, okay, Well, Milly had
Speaker 6: followed me on letterboxed and I went about my life
Speaker 6: after that after and I don't know if I missed
Speaker 6: the notification or something, but it took me maybe a
Speaker 6: year before I followed you back, and I mentioned it
Speaker 6: kind of like, oh, MILLI, isn't it funny? I just
Speaker 6: I didn't realize you were on Letterbox. I can't beieve
Speaker 6: it took me so long to follow you back, and
Speaker 6: you were like, yeah, I noticed.
Speaker 4: It was an offensive amount of time that went by. Like,
Speaker 4: let me just tell you right now, I had not
Speaker 4: only read at you, but it actually commented on one
Speaker 4: of your reviews.
Speaker 6: I know, I think I had just I assumed I
Speaker 6: had followed you back. I think that's what happened. I
Speaker 6: think I had assumed. There's no way I didn't follow
Speaker 6: you back, but I fucked up. I don't know what
Speaker 6: you want me to say here.
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, we work on a film podcast together.
Speaker 4: We're like in communication pretty much every other day. I
Speaker 4: know I friended this guy because I want him to
Speaker 4: feel included in what we're fucking doing around here, and
Speaker 4: it took him a year to follow me back. Anyway,
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just saying, sure, that broke me for
Speaker 4: a while, but then you fix itself and I forgive you,
Speaker 4: and now we're obviously doing a podcast together.
Speaker 6: Now we're doing a podcast together.
Speaker 4: I've let it go well. And like there's other functionality
Speaker 4: on there too that like you can come up with lists.
Speaker 4: I'm a big list person. Yes, I also you know, like,
Speaker 4: I actually love the review component because there are people,
Speaker 4: like I said, who are using it like as like
Speaker 4: they're writing for Rogerdieber dot com type of thing. But
Speaker 4: then there are people who are like putting one two
Speaker 4: sentences about, you know, the thing that they've watched.
Speaker 6: That's how I do it. I do one or two sentences,
Speaker 6: and I like that. I prefer that as a user
Speaker 6: to read. I don't really want to read an essay
Speaker 6: on here, to be honest.
Speaker 4: Oh I know. And a lot of times it's like
Speaker 4: and this is the way I do it, but other
Speaker 4: people do it this way too. It's like the funniest
Speaker 4: observation about a movie. Yes, and I actually had one
Speaker 4: go sort of VIVI. I gotta say, wow my review
Speaker 4: for a Complete Unknown, where I talked about I don't
Speaker 4: know if you've seen it yet.
Speaker 5: I won't spoil it.
Speaker 6: Haven't seen it.
Speaker 4: Well, there's a moment of that movie that happens, which
Speaker 4: is a non spoiler.
Speaker 5: But it was like the weirdest thing to me.
Speaker 4: That was like the one thing I couldn't stop thinking about,
Speaker 4: and then I wrote it and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: it's like ping, ping, ping, Everyone's like we love it.
Speaker 5: We love the review.
Speaker 4: So that's what I like about Letterbox is that it's
Speaker 4: kind of like again, I think it's a high low
Speaker 4: scenario where you could either be really like deliberate and
Speaker 4: professional about it, or you can be a fucking goon
Speaker 4: like me.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, here's kind of one of my favorite reviews.
Speaker 6: This is ao Ata Biri. If you ever follow, she's
Speaker 6: a great follow on Letterbox. This is her review of
Speaker 6: The Empire Strikes Back. This movie is great, but I
Speaker 6: was really shocked by how ugly Yoda was. Sorry if
Speaker 6: that pisses anybody off, but I had only seen baby
Speaker 6: Yoda and adult Yoda is fucking busted.
Speaker 4: I mean that's the whole review.
Speaker 6: So it's great.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Anyways, this isn't an ad for Letterbox, but we love
Speaker 6: it and I use it all the time, and it's
Speaker 6: where I keep track of all the movies I've watched
Speaker 6: in the past.
Speaker 4: That's right. I mean, if the Letterbox wants to give
Speaker 4: us a check, we'll take it. But I'm just saying
Speaker 4: this is what we're gonna be using. Let's go into
Speaker 4: this film diary.
Speaker 6: Fabulous.
Speaker 4: So in the past week I've gone down this like
Speaker 4: kind of strange rabbit hole. So I discovered this Japanese
Speaker 4: director recently, and I don't actually know how I discovered him.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm following some kind of Instagram account
Speaker 4: that's like an Asian.
Speaker 5: Film archive, think it's actually what it's called.
Speaker 4: And they posted a trailer or something about this movie.
Speaker 4: And the movie is called Hawu haar U. Okay, it
Speaker 4: was directed by this Japanese director. His name is Yoshi
Speaker 4: Mitsu Marita.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 5: This movie's from nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 4: And for some reason, when I saw the trailer, I
Speaker 4: was like, this seems so charming, Like I think his filmography,
Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken, I'm not like a scholar on
Speaker 4: him yet. But he was making movies in like most
Speaker 4: of his movies came out in like the eighties and nineties,
Speaker 4: which is a real for me, kind of like a
Speaker 4: gap I don't I have, you know, I started thinking,
Speaker 4: like have I watched a lot of Japanese movies from
Speaker 4: the eighties and nineties, like, and then as the more
Speaker 4: I kind of was reading about him and sort of
Speaker 4: that era I think actually, And like I said, I
Speaker 4: don't want to say that this is the general attitude,
Speaker 4: but I've read that, you know, people kind of actually
Speaker 4: perceive that Chpanese filmmaking in the eighties wasn't very good,
Speaker 4: like they weren't making good movies generally in the eighties interesting,
Speaker 4: And so I came into it going, Okay, so this
Speaker 4: is supposed to be like an era of like bad
Speaker 4: Japanese filmmaking. Yet I walked into this movie and was
Speaker 4: like completely charmed by it. It was It's essentially a movie.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is this movie is probably like as
Speaker 4: close to this film podcast as we can get. It's
Speaker 4: essentially a woman who is a cinophile. She's a single woman,
Speaker 4: a school teacher living in Japan, and she's a cinopile.
Speaker 4: And she then she gets on like a movie message board.
Speaker 4: And this is ninety six, so this is early internet days.
Speaker 6: This is just like, inject this into my veins. I know,
Speaker 6: this sounds wonderful, and I've never heard of this guy
Speaker 6: or this movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it basically it's like a lot of the
Speaker 4: movie is there kind of like literally on screen, like
Speaker 4: sending messages on the message board. It's like her and
Speaker 4: this other person, and the other person at first is
Speaker 4: you know, kind of presents as a woman, but then
Speaker 4: it's actually a man, you know, because back in the day,
Speaker 4: you can really fool people about being you know, like
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess you could still catfish people now.
Speaker 6: Oh, catfishing is thriving right now, yeah, thriving.
Speaker 4: But back in like ninety six, man, you could literally
Speaker 4: be anybody. And so they kind of developed this, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know, this online sort of a pistolary relationship
Speaker 4: and they're kind of like he's in a bad marriage
Speaker 4: or he's in a kind of weird spot in his life,
Speaker 4: and they just kind of bond together and it's this
Speaker 4: kind of like you got male in Japan in the
Speaker 4: nineties over the internet.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, that's so cute.
Speaker 5: In aphile, Yeah, and I'm like, oh, it was lovely.
Speaker 6: That's so interesting, you say, like not knowing Japanese movies
Speaker 6: from the eighties or nineties, and I was just thinking,
Speaker 6: I was like, I don't really either, except for one
Speaker 6: of my favorite movies of all time, Tom Popo by
Speaker 6: Juzi Atami, which is also like the cutest movie in
Speaker 6: the world world. Yeah, And so like, it definitely feels
Speaker 6: like it's an area that I want to explore, and
Speaker 6: I definitely want to check out. Is it Yoshi Mitsu
Speaker 6: Marita his movies Mariita. Yeah, these look incredible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I actually watched another one because I
Speaker 4: liked Taru so much.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So there's this movie that he made in nineteen eighty
Speaker 4: four called Main Theme, and I gotta tell you, I
Speaker 4: don't think it's online anywhere.
Speaker 5: I had to go through you know, the dark web.
Speaker 6: The dark web nefarious and Millie she's in the dark
Speaker 6: web all too often.
Speaker 4: Always. Yeah, I mean, actually I get I get my
Speaker 4: groceries from the dark web. You know, it's yes, you know,
Speaker 4: I just use it for everything now, why not?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: But this movie Main Theme, Oh my god. That movie
Speaker 4: was also incredible. It was also kind of a romance,
Speaker 4: but it had this like super whimsical. It was kind
Speaker 4: of like an umbrellas of Schoreberg feel.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was the colors were amazing, I don't know,
Speaker 4: just the setups, the camera work, the colors, the costumes, everything.
Speaker 4: I was like, who the hell is this director? And
Speaker 4: why have I just figured him out?
Speaker 6: Yeah? So amazing, that's great.
Speaker 4: So what about you?
Speaker 5: Now you've gotta tell me?
Speaker 6: Oh my god. Okay, so full disclosure here. I'm in
Speaker 6: a bit of a horror movie zone right now, and
Speaker 6: so all of these are horror or horror adjacent and
Speaker 6: these ain't elevated, I'll tell you that much. I saw
Speaker 6: this Keebit Quaw film called Humanist Vampire Seeking consenting suicidal Person.
Speaker 6: What very cute that's on twenty twenty three.
Speaker 5: Wow a title.
Speaker 6: It's very cute. It feels like I'll leave I'll read
Speaker 6: my letterbox review. It's Only Lovers Left Alive meets Twilight
Speaker 6: because it's about kind of like it's very cute, see,
Speaker 6: but it's also very twee. I'm like over the vampires
Speaker 6: who are like I don't want to kill people. That's like,
Speaker 6: I find that annoying now, and I am sure vampires
Speaker 6: are you know? They they should murder people. That's that's
Speaker 6: what I took away from that.
Speaker 5: Are you a Twilight Were you.
Speaker 6: Indoctrinated? I've never read any of these books, but I
Speaker 6: was in college when all of those movies came out
Speaker 6: and all of my gal pals were obsessed with it.
Speaker 6: And so unfortunately I have seen every single Twilight film
Speaker 6: at midnight on the day it came out. So wow,
Speaker 6: I know a lot about it. I think people like
Speaker 6: like them now in retrospect, those are bad movies.
Speaker 4: You'll be surprised to know a little bit of a
Speaker 4: Twilight apologist, I kind of I've watched all of them really,
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and I was way too old to be
Speaker 4: into it, Like I mean, I want, did the first
Speaker 4: one come out.
Speaker 6: Like two thousand and eight nine.
Speaker 4: I mean, I was a grown ass woman in a
Speaker 4: full time job.
Speaker 5: When those movies came out.
Speaker 4: I have no business.
Speaker 5: But you know, here's what I will say about that.
Speaker 4: I actually kind of feel that I might like them
Speaker 4: better now knowing who Robert Pattinson and Christian Stewart became true,
Speaker 4: do you know what I mean? Absolutely, Like I go
Speaker 4: backwards now and I'm like, oh, these these are like
Speaker 4: two cool people making cool films, Like yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 4: they made a bunch of teen shit. It's kind of cool.
Speaker 6: I don't know. Well, And I saw them at the
Speaker 6: height of my like shithead stage because I was in
Speaker 6: film school. I was like, this isn't you know, this
Speaker 6: isn't like the Urkmeister harmonies, like this sucks, you know,
Speaker 6: or whatever the name of that Bellatar film is. But
Speaker 6: I think I do need to revisit them because I
Speaker 6: think they would be fun to watch. Now, Yeah, I agree, Yeah,
Speaker 6: Twilight worth a revisit. Then I watched Okay, I saw
Speaker 6: this movie that I thought was incredible and I feel
Speaker 6: like it should be more famous. It's called Black Rainbow.
Speaker 6: It's directed by Mike Hodges. It's starring Rosanna Arquette and
Speaker 6: Jason Robard's have you seen this movie? It was just
Speaker 6: re released by Aero Video on Blu Ray. Like Harvey
Speaker 6: Weinstein and Miramax totally fucked up the release of this
Speaker 6: movie so it went straight to cable, so like nobody
Speaker 6: knows about it. But it's really good. It's about a
Speaker 6: traveling psychic played by Roseenna Arquette her father Jason Robards,
Speaker 6: and they're kind of a you know, shyster's they they like,
Speaker 6: are kind of scamming people. But then she starts getting
Speaker 6: visions of people actually dying and it's really good. I
Speaker 6: thought it was really interesting.
Speaker 4: I will not confuse it with Black Mothed Super Rainbow,
Speaker 4: which is a band from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 6: Okay, that's good, And I believe there's a movie beyond
Speaker 6: the Black Rainbow. Okay, that's a different movie. Okay, that's
Speaker 6: by Ponos Cosmatos of Mandy Fame. Oh that's a different film. Okay,
Speaker 6: get it right, get it right, pay the price. Did
Speaker 6: you ever watch Salute Your Shorts on Nickelodeon?
Speaker 5: What are you asking me right now?
Speaker 6: What you've seen Salute your Shorts?
Speaker 5: Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 4: Dude? Do you seem like every.
Speaker 6: Epp Okay doesn't ugg say?
Speaker 4: Yeah, get it right? Or pay the price? Okay, Okay
Speaker 4: says it yeah butt Nick screwed it up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I'm just glad. I just wanted to make
Speaker 6: sure we're on the same page when it Salute your Shorts,
Speaker 6: And now I know we are, and so we can
Speaker 6: move forward with recording the podcast. And then the last
Speaker 6: movie I watched last night, which I'd never seen before,
Speaker 6: The Crow. I loved it. I thought it was great,
Speaker 6: The O G. Crow, Not Bill sars Guard's The Crow,
Speaker 6: Brandon Lee's The Crow. I have been told I look
Speaker 6: like Bill good movie by two different people.
Speaker 4: Wait, move your move your face away from micros I
Speaker 4: mean a little bit.
Speaker 6: I'm loath to say such a thing because he's like
Speaker 6: one of the hottest men on the planet. Or I
Speaker 6: think he's very hot. Me too. I will say two
Speaker 6: people told me that, but still a thrill.
Speaker 4: I would say, you were a little bit Casey Affleck
Speaker 4: meets Bill scars Gard.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, have you been told about case I get
Speaker 6: told Casey Affleck frequently, and my name is Casey.
Speaker 4: And maybe it's because your name is Casey. I get
Speaker 4: Casey Affleck, Casey Affleck and who else? Oh?
Speaker 6: Paul Rudd, Paul, Wow, you just happen to look like
Speaker 6: all the.
Speaker 5: Hottest men in Hollywood right now, and I do not.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm trying to underscore.
Speaker 6: And that's my burden, you know.
Speaker 4: Okay, So that was our film diary.
Speaker 5: How'd you feel good?
Speaker 4: First one?
Speaker 6: I feel good. It felt like writing in a real diary.
Speaker 6: I feel relieved of some emotional baggage.
Speaker 5: It's good.
Speaker 4: Well, okay, now we're moving into our main discussion, which is, again,
Speaker 4: like I said twenty eighteen's The Star Is Born, we're
Speaker 4: going to talk about drinking in movies. But first, Casey,
Speaker 4: I have a question for you. Do you participate in
Speaker 4: what they call dry January.
Speaker 6: Now, this is a great question I have, but here's
Speaker 6: a I have a huge problem with dry January. My
Speaker 6: birthday is in January. Ah, and that's going to be wet.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm not gonna that I refuse to not
Speaker 6: drink on my birthday because it's in dry January. And
Speaker 6: also my daughter's birthday is now in January. Now, maybe
Speaker 6: I shouldn't be drinking, you know, it shouldn't necessarily be
Speaker 6: a cause for drinking. But there'll be a party, and
Speaker 6: I would be sad if I couldn't have like a
Speaker 6: beer at my daughter's birthday party, which my daughter's birthday
Speaker 6: is the day before my birthday. Isn't that funny?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 6: But I do think it is nice sometimes to dry
Speaker 6: out a little bit and just you know, reconfigure because
Speaker 6: I am a drinker, but it's good to you know,
Speaker 6: kind of reconfigure your system. I feel like I kind
Speaker 6: of participate, is my answer in dry January.
Speaker 4: Sure, okay, okay, that makes sense. I was thinking about
Speaker 4: this obviously, because it's such a huge topic right as
Speaker 4: we're at the beginning of the new year, Happy twenty
Speaker 4: twenty five, and a lot of my friends are doing
Speaker 4: this dry January thing. Yes, white knuckling it. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: so interesting because I'm kind of like, okay, a, when
Speaker 4: did we start like I don't remember Dry January when
Speaker 4: I was a kid, Like I don't remember people's parents.
Speaker 6: No, I mean, it feels like it's like ten years old.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then it's sort of that feeling too where
Speaker 4: I'm like, I get that it's in sort of a
Speaker 4: mode of, you know, we're in a New Year's resolution
Speaker 4: phase where we're trying to be better people for a
Speaker 4: little while and then it all falls apart. But I'm
Speaker 4: also like, I guess it's because I am not like
Speaker 4: a huge drinker, so I don't need a dry January,
Speaker 4: if you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's like people will go extra hard
Speaker 6: leading up to dry January and then go real hard
Speaker 6: after dry January, and it's kind of like, well, this
Speaker 6: isn't good. You know, moderation is best.
Speaker 4: Well, and so it got me thinking, you know, because
Speaker 4: you know, it's our first episode, it's the first of
Speaker 4: the new year, and so I was like kind of thinking,
Speaker 4: let's maybe talk a little bit about you know, classic
Speaker 4: movie drunks or like movies about drinking, and you know,
Speaker 4: not all of it is fun all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like charismatic drunks, but mean drunks. Yeah, and you know
Speaker 4: the whole gamut.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's interesting because there aren't that many movies
Speaker 6: where it's like a celebration of drinking without it being
Speaker 6: about alcoholism, yes, you know, or like the downside of imbibing.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Well, and like so I started thinking about, like,
Speaker 4: what was the last movie that I remember seeing that
Speaker 4: just really was truly about alcoholism, the darkest alcoholic, Like
Speaker 4: maybe a movie you'd watch that would inspire you to
Speaker 4: adopt a dry january.
Speaker 5: Sure, it's something really hardcore.
Speaker 4: And I was like, I think the last one I
Speaker 4: saw was A Star was Born, the remake, the most
Speaker 4: recent remake of it, Yes, which was such a juggernaut
Speaker 4: when it came out.
Speaker 5: Did you not feel that?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 6: Absolutely? And it's one of those movies. When I saw
Speaker 6: the trailer, I was like, Oh, this is gonna be
Speaker 6: so bad. I just thought, I don't know, like I
Speaker 6: was like, I was like, it's Bradley Cooper's first movie.
Speaker 6: It's obviously like this Passion Project. It just I feel
Speaker 6: like it had things going against it. It had kind
Speaker 6: of a goof goofy moment in the trailer that was
Speaker 6: like Memed and is still Memed, you know, the wont
Speaker 6: you know but I love this movie and I was
Speaker 6: really blown away and it was a juggernaut, and it's
Speaker 6: the first movie in a while where it was like, oh,
Speaker 6: it's a big hit movie with stars and there's a
Speaker 6: huge song attached to it. Like that was fun. It
Speaker 6: kind of was a throwback to old blockbusters in a
Speaker 6: way where there's like a hit song kind of attached
Speaker 6: and embedded in the movie itself, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Like, so I decided that I was going
Speaker 4: to rewatch it actually during the Christmas break because I
Speaker 4: think it was on like I don't know, Paramount, so
Speaker 4: you know how, it's just like movies. I was like, oh, cool,
Speaker 4: a nice holiday movie where Bradley Cooper drinks himself to death. Amazing.
Speaker 4: So I watched it at my parents' house, and I
Speaker 4: gotta say, it's still really enjoyable. Yeah, And here's the
Speaker 4: thing that I thought was really interesting about this version
Speaker 4: of it, because if you don't know, I don't know
Speaker 4: how you wouldn't. At this point a Stars board is
Speaker 4: this like very storied franchise really at this point, yeah,
Speaker 4: it almost seems like it gets remade like every twenty
Speaker 4: thirty years. You know, the original, the very first Stars
Speaker 4: Born was made in nineteen thirty seven, and it was
Speaker 4: a William Wellman movie. I'm a huge fan of William Wellman,
Speaker 4: the director, and that is my actual favorite version of
Speaker 4: the story. Wow is the thirty seven because first of all,
Speaker 4: it's like, well, it's the original meeting the story you know,
Speaker 4: sort of is contained in its own like little universe, right,
Speaker 4: But also the lead actor of that film, Frederick March,
Speaker 4: who is I don't know if listeners really no, Frederick March.
Speaker 5: I mean he's kind of he's a he's a very.
Speaker 4: Famous actor of the thirties, but you know, isn't like
Speaker 4: a Gary Cooper type. He was very you know, like
Speaker 4: kind of under the radar. I say, if you are
Speaker 4: a Frederick March fan, we should be friends because you're
Speaker 4: a real head, you know what I mean. That's how
Speaker 4: cool Frederick March is. He's like the big star of
Speaker 4: nineteen thirties comedic actors.
Speaker 6: He's in a movie I like called I Married a Witch.
Speaker 4: Of course, yes, with Ronic Lake. Yeah, Frederick March is
Speaker 4: the most charming drunk in cinema history for my money. Like,
Speaker 4: and this is what makes the stars for the original
Speaker 4: the best, because obviously same premise, this guy, famous guy
Speaker 4: you know, meets this kind of like young Hollywood upstart
Speaker 4: on Janu type. They form a relationship. Then she quickly realizes, oh,
Speaker 4: he's like a fucking alcoholic who like can't handle a shit,
Speaker 4: And what do I do?
Speaker 5: I'm ascending my Stars on the rise.
Speaker 4: This guy is falling on his ass and you know,
Speaker 4: peeing himself in front of the Oscars or whatever it was.
Speaker 5: But it's like she loves him, She's tied to him.
Speaker 4: That's the you know, the baseline of the franchise, right,
Speaker 4: But Frederick marsh is so charming and funny and like
Speaker 4: sweet that I truly feel like I do not want
Speaker 4: this guy to fail, Like I want him to get
Speaker 4: a shit together and I want him to like win,
Speaker 4: but as you know, spoiler alert, he can't win. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's got to be tragedy.
Speaker 5: Here's got to be tragedy.
Speaker 6: So that's something I want to ask you about because
Speaker 6: you have you seen all of the Stars borns.
Speaker 4: Yes, I would say the Stars Board is like my
Speaker 4: star trek.
Speaker 6: Sure. Sure many have said that.
Speaker 4: Like I am very committed.
Speaker 6: Yes, And so I have to I have a few
Speaker 6: questions because I have only seen the Bradley Cooper Lady
Speaker 6: Gaga one, and honestly, I'm sorry, but spoiler alert to
Speaker 6: the heavens on this, I'm not I'm not holding back
Speaker 6: on the ending of this. Does the male protagonist pee
Speaker 6: his pants in front of people in all of them?
Speaker 6: Or was that just in the Lady Gaga Bradley Cooper won.
Speaker 5: So what happens in the thirties version is that he
Speaker 5: accidentally hits her?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 4: I think so? Basically, like she goes to the awards,
Speaker 4: he does his holy you know, interrupts the speech, and
Speaker 4: then he throws his arm back and hits her like
Speaker 4: on accident, and everyone's like, oh, okay, that's what happens
Speaker 4: in thirty seven. Now, I haven't seen the seventies one
Speaker 4: in a while. I actually don't think it's in there
Speaker 4: at all. And then the James Mason version, No, I
Speaker 4: don't think he pisses himself because they wouldn't have allowed
Speaker 4: that in the fifties.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I can't see James Mason pissing his pants on screen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like that was something that Bradley Coops. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, he put his own stank on that moment. Yes,
Speaker 4: So let me ask you this because I have a
Speaker 4: huge fascination with Bradley Cooper as a director.
Speaker 6: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 4: So this being his first movie that he's directed, he
Speaker 4: went ham right because he's in the movie. He's saying
Speaker 4: some of the songs he you know, adopted this like all.
Speaker 4: But it's kind of like this new persona, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Absolutely, It's like kind of like Austin hippie cowboy guy,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's like maybe having a drink at Pappy
Speaker 4: and Harriet's in Pioneer Town or something.
Speaker 6: You know, Can I interrupt you? I have something to
Speaker 6: say to that matter. I have a personal connection to
Speaker 6: this film. How I went to college with Lucas Nelson,
Speaker 6: Willie Nelson's son. Okay, he co wrote all the music
Speaker 6: with Bradley Cooper for this movie, and Bradley Cooper based
Speaker 6: his personality on Lucas Nelson.
Speaker 5: Is that a known fact?
Speaker 6: There are articles about this, Okay, Okay, I didn't know
Speaker 6: Lucas that well. We hung out a few times, and
Speaker 6: then he'd left college after his freshman year to become
Speaker 6: a rock star and lead the band Lucas Nelson. In
Speaker 6: the promise of the reel My Good friend, though Logan
Speaker 6: Metz was in the band the promise of the reel.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, and Lucas Nelson is in A Star is Born.
Speaker 6: He's like the guitar player. Oh I see, Yeah, yeah
Speaker 6: it is interesting. Bradley Kuper did have a new persona
Speaker 6: and it's kind of based on Lucas Nelson.
Speaker 5: Interesting.
Speaker 4: There's something fascinating to me about because this. Obviously he
Speaker 4: made more movies after this one. This was the one
Speaker 4: where he was like, I got a lot to prove. Yes,
Speaker 4: I am taking this beloved, storied, historical ip and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna do my own weird, you know Nashville guy thing
Speaker 4: with it. Right, Yes, it was a juggernaut. People loved
Speaker 4: it like it was memified. I mean people were you know,
Speaker 4: imtiten his exit, you know, which was essentially no Sam
Speaker 4: Elliott's accent, and you know, I mean it left people shook.
Speaker 4: I remember, So, I mean, I hate to say this
Speaker 4: about y'all, but like so many straight guys that I'm
Speaker 4: friends with were like shook by that movie.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: They were like, man, what a fucking movie?
Speaker 4: Like they had never seen a movie that affected their
Speaker 4: kind as much as this film.
Speaker 6: Right, My people, my people, like, we're welcome.
Speaker 4: To our world. What the fuck? They're like, oh my god, this,
Speaker 4: like you know, dramatic story is hitting me in the
Speaker 4: fucking fields. And I'm like, that's what we do here,
Speaker 4: by the way, as you know, we cry about every
Speaker 4: movie we watch. But then he went on to make Maestro,
Speaker 4: which did you see You saw My shrow RW.
Speaker 6: I loved My Stroll. It was like one of my
Speaker 6: favorite movies of the last year. Like, I feel like
Speaker 6: Stars Weren't is such a big swing, it's such a
Speaker 6: big risk because like it could have been such a
Speaker 6: flop because it's like it's so sincere, it's so emotional
Speaker 6: and it really goes for it. And Maestro is much
Speaker 6: the same, but even more so, I feel like he
Speaker 6: felt empowered by a star is Born to make a
Speaker 6: nuttier movie exactly. Someone pointed out that like every movie
Speaker 6: he's been in and has directed, he plays a genius essentially,
Speaker 6: and there's like a Martyred genius And that's sort of
Speaker 6: funny to think about. I keep thinking back to this
Speaker 6: interview with Leonard Bernstein's Children that Bradley Cooper was in
Speaker 6: that interview. Do you know what I'm talking about? Have
Speaker 6: you seen this, I think, so I remember it. Yeah,
Speaker 6: And the interviewer asks the children, what do you miss
Speaker 6: most about him? Of course, Leonard Bernstein died in like
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety one. Bradley Cooper doesn't know Leonard Bernstein. But
Speaker 6: Bradley Cooper answered the question and he's like, oh my god,
Speaker 6: I just I miss him so much. Just and he
Speaker 6: like started crying, and I was like, this is so
Speaker 6: delulu crazy like that he felt comfortable answering that question
Speaker 6: that it made me like, maestro more. I mean, it's
Speaker 6: just such a like a vanity project, and it's just
Speaker 6: it's so outrageously theatrical and they're doing so there's so
Speaker 6: much like accent and makeup work going on. I mean,
Speaker 6: it is so crazy. Bradley Cooper's movies are like invigorating
Speaker 6: and alive in a way and like passionate, and it
Speaker 6: just sucks me in because they aren't like other movies
Speaker 6: coming out now, where so many movies that are like
Speaker 6: highbrow art house movies are so quiet and like muted
Speaker 6: and the performances are very muted, yes, But Bradley Cooper's
Speaker 6: they are loud, taking big swings, and so I just
Speaker 6: I just it just I just drink it all in.
Speaker 6: I just I'm a fan. I guess, yeah.
Speaker 4: I I'm glad you think this because I want to
Speaker 4: say that I have this very nuanced opinion of Briley
Speaker 4: Cooper as a famous person, right, yes, and that I
Speaker 4: think it is informed by my love, my love and
Speaker 4: my passion and my writing about fucking Colt movies. I mean, basically,
Speaker 4: I'm a cold movie person and I'm like, oh, so
Speaker 4: here's this like megalomaniac director type. Yes, Like he's basically
Speaker 4: like extremely well funded ed Wood meets Tommy Wiseau meets
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. That's not a disparaging comment,
Speaker 4: by the way, Like I fucking love ed Wood, but
Speaker 4: it's like in that way, that's like making ridiculous, big
Speaker 4: swing artistic statements.
Speaker 5: I mean, maybe not Edwood. Maybe we call him like
Speaker 5: Bob Foster.
Speaker 6: Sure, Bob Foss is a good comp I think, Yes, Yes.
Speaker 4: I appreciate there being at least one are two people
Speaker 4: at any given moment in Hollywood being that maniac. Like
Speaker 4: I appreciate the mania, the like ridiculousness, the sort of
Speaker 4: you know, over the top, like you know, putting himself
Speaker 4: in his own movies, like giving himself the duty of
Speaker 4: making old classic things relevant. You know, yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: have feeling like the onus is on you to like
Speaker 4: extend the story of a stars board or whatever the
Speaker 4: fuck right, and uh pulling in like all of your
Speaker 4: bullshit in the world, you know, like all of your
Speaker 4: weird isms and costumes and noses and ship you know,
Speaker 4: who left Snoopy in the vestibule? Why?
Speaker 6: Like damn it, I was. I'm mad that you said that,
Speaker 6: because I was I was thinking about doing that for
Speaker 6: Halloween this year holding a snoopy doll? Who left Snoopy
Speaker 6: in the vestibule? Oh my god?
Speaker 4: Like that to me is like that is my actual
Speaker 4: letterbox review for my stroke. By the way, is who.
Speaker 5: Left Snoopy the vestibule?
Speaker 4: That's all you need, Isn't that one fucking sentence? Also
Speaker 4: is the essence of why I think he's so funny
Speaker 4: and I like him ultimately is because he's just like that,
Speaker 4: like throwing that into his fucking three hour movie about
Speaker 4: you know, somebody that he feels like he needs to
Speaker 4: cry about in front of his child, you.
Speaker 6: Know what I mean? Oh my god. Yes, So I
Speaker 6: am a fan. Yes, I look forward to whatever his
Speaker 6: next project is. I hope Maestro didn't throw him off
Speaker 6: course at all. Do you like the music in A
Speaker 6: Star is Born?
Speaker 4: I don't like the bop that they told us was
Speaker 4: the bop. The shallow is a shallow chow.
Speaker 6: You don't like shallow?
Speaker 4: Oh, Millie don't really hit for me.
Speaker 6: I feel like that's man. I'm just I'm an easy mark.
Speaker 6: I just I was like, I just thought I was
Speaker 6: I thought that was a great song, and I uh,
Speaker 6: when when she first sings it in the movie, I
Speaker 6: was like I was taken away. I don't know, it
Speaker 6: worked for me.
Speaker 4: God, the whole thing is just such a bummer.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is like.
Speaker 4: The whole movie is a real fucking bummer by design.
Speaker 4: It's been that way for decades because the thirty seven
Speaker 4: version is a fucking bummer as well.
Speaker 8: To me.
Speaker 4: I don't know. When I rewatched it again, I was like,
Speaker 4: whoever programmed this at Christmas is a g because this
Speaker 4: is like a fucking straight up bummer of the highest order.
Speaker 4: I feel like, shit, thank you. And then yeah, it
Speaker 4: just sort of made me like, re like just have
Speaker 4: to remember kind of this, you know the reality that
Speaker 4: we were living in when this movie came out and
Speaker 4: how like you know, Briley Cooper's media Lady Gaga had
Speaker 4: had she acted before, like this was her big like god,
Speaker 4: her big thing.
Speaker 6: I mean I think she had like hosted snl oh. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and like I think she was in the Ryan Murphy
Speaker 6: universe doing god knows what goes on there. She is
Speaker 6: so charming in this Yeah, there's a shot when he
Speaker 6: when she's on the side of the stage and he's
Speaker 6: like trying to pull her on to sing Shallow for
Speaker 6: the first time, and she's like hi, Like she's like
Speaker 6: acting like such a like kind of like weirdo, Like
Speaker 6: she's like totally overwhelmed, but it's like it's so disarming
Speaker 6: and charming, and I don't know, I really I thought
Speaker 6: she was so good in this movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was absolutely delighted that Andrew dice Clay played
Speaker 4: her dad.
Speaker 6: Incredible, right, absolutely incredible.
Speaker 4: He was great at it and considering like how obnoxious
Speaker 4: he was, like it is heyday, the fact that he
Speaker 4: just was like some like dad in a movie really
Speaker 4: like made me kind of happy.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was like always like you know, I don't know,
Speaker 4: he's back and he's like Lady Kakaw's like drives a
Speaker 4: limo or whatever.
Speaker 5: I don't even know what he does, but yeah, she
Speaker 5: was really great at it.
Speaker 4: And I you know again, like that's the thing about
Speaker 4: a starsborn. It attempts to take that kind of like
Speaker 4: famous diva of the era, uh huh and put her
Speaker 4: in that role. Right, So it's like, you know, we
Speaker 4: got Judy Garland, We've got Barbi Streisan. I mean the
Speaker 4: first one. You know, I wasn't alive in the thirties,
Speaker 4: So I don't know if Janet Gaynor was the Lady
Speaker 4: Gaga of the thirties or whatever.
Speaker 5: I don't believe so, but.
Speaker 4: That's the thing is that, like it kind of couldn't
Speaker 4: have been many other people but Lady Gaga to be
Speaker 4: this role.
Speaker 6: Were you ever influenced to drinking alcoholic drink based on
Speaker 6: seeing it in a movie?
Speaker 4: Yes, I drank a white Russian after I saw Big Lebowski.
Speaker 6: I did that too.
Speaker 5: Thought it was kind of nasty, to be honest, I like.
Speaker 6: A white Russian, but they're an acquired taste. I saw
Speaker 6: the movie north By Northwest with Carrie Grant and he
Speaker 6: orders a Gibson, which is a martini with pearl onions
Speaker 6: instead of olives. Oh and that's my favorite drink.
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Do you eat the pearl onion like can?
Speaker 6: I don't always because that is a potent punch, but
Speaker 6: it is. I like the brine of the pickled onion
Speaker 6: in my Martini.
Speaker 5: I love Martini olives.
Speaker 6: They're great.
Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm like, yo, put like twelve of them
Speaker 4: shits on a stick, and I'm just.
Speaker 6: Gonna dunk, dunk dunk. Yeah. That okay.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna dunk the olive in the Martini drink and
Speaker 4: just eat them.
Speaker 5: They're so delicious.
Speaker 6: So do you like a dirty Martini? A dirty Martini
Speaker 6: is where they actually pour olive brine into the martini.
Speaker 6: Should try it out sometime.
Speaker 4: I like the eating component though, that's the one I
Speaker 4: like about Martini's.
Speaker 6: You know what's funny, Millie? This is so random?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 6: You and I have only seen each other in person
Speaker 6: for once, and it was like for thirty seconds. Isn't
Speaker 6: that interesting? Was it at the Egyptian Theater or down
Speaker 6: that way?
Speaker 8: It was?
Speaker 4: Since you have a terrible memory involving anything with me,
Speaker 4: it was at the Chinese Multiplayer in Hollywood, okay, and
Speaker 4: you were about to see was that a movie?
Speaker 5: With Rod Steiger.
Speaker 6: No, it was it was Paul Newman, the Hustler.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 4: I got you and your wife Tricia into the movie. Yes,
Speaker 4: and that was the first time I'd ever met you,
Speaker 4: even though you had been recording the podcast for a
Speaker 4: while before that.
Speaker 6: Right, No, I think it was pretty early on. I
Speaker 6: think it was. Maybe I've been doing it for like
Speaker 6: two months.
Speaker 5: Oh, I see.
Speaker 6: We will be reunited at some point in person, hopefully
Speaker 6: drinking martinezn't eating olives.
Speaker 4: Absolutely alrighty, that was our discussion of A Star is
Speaker 4: Born and getting hammered in film. So now it's time
Speaker 4: for our guest segment, which we're calling my area of expertise.
Speaker 4: So this is where we're gonna bring on a guest,
Speaker 4: usually somebody funny and cool, I.
Speaker 6: Hope, always cool. Funny I don't know necessarily, but very cool,
Speaker 6: always cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, we're setting a high bar with the funny
Speaker 4: because Sheila was an incredible comedian. But you know, normally
Speaker 4: what would happen is we're gonna bring on somebody they're
Speaker 4: gonna discuss this like hyper specific area that they are
Speaker 4: expert in when it comes to movies. Right, and since
Speaker 4: we spoke about you know, the modern iteration of a Starsborn,
Speaker 4: which is a movie about music.
Speaker 5: I'll be We're gonna bring on a guest.
Speaker 4: To talk about, you know, this area of their expertise.
Speaker 4: That's also sort of another example of like a modern
Speaker 4: cinematic fantasia, the Magic my franchise. I think, you know,
Speaker 4: our first guest is a wonderful human being, and I
Speaker 4: am not at all lying about that in any way, way,
Speaker 4: shape or form. I've known this woman for so so long.
Speaker 4: She originally is an Atlantic comedian who has been in
Speaker 4: New York for decades at this point, I would say,
Speaker 4: and very funny. She does stand up all over the country,
Speaker 4: all over the world, to be honest, and also has
Speaker 4: this incredible podcast called The War Report that she does
Speaker 4: with a fellow comic named Gastor Almonte. They're very funny together,
Speaker 4: and she's just a wonderful human being and I want
Speaker 4: to bring her on the pod. So, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 4: please welcome shealeiwa sharp yay. Hello, Hi everyone, welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 6: Wait, how do you how did you guys first meet?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 8: The dirty, dirty streets of Atlanta, casey, oh my god,
Speaker 8: where there are just young people roaming just looking for
Speaker 8: their next you know, brit pop fix or yes, just
Speaker 8: any dive bar that needed people in horn rim glasses
Speaker 8: to hang out around the edges.
Speaker 4: I will say this though, not to say that we
Speaker 4: were not good friends before this, but I feel like
Speaker 4: the event that really crystallized our friendship in a deep,
Speaker 4: meaningful way is that Playboy article slash interview with John
Speaker 4: Mayer that came out many years ago.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, Like I.
Speaker 4: Think the biggest topics in that moment were the fact
Speaker 4: that Jessica Simpson had been called sexual napalm. Remember I
Speaker 4: always talked about that, and that he called his penis racist. Yeah,
Speaker 4: which is I think was the biggest That was like
Speaker 4: issue number one.
Speaker 6: I remember this now I was. I didn't realize it
Speaker 6: was from that article, but that's yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I mean when you say, like, sure, I'd love to
Speaker 8: date women that aren't white, but my penis is the yeah,
Speaker 8: you don't have people who are not white sit.
Speaker 6: Down and go what yeah?
Speaker 1: And so that's that's what we had to do for hours.
Speaker 6: Okay, Millie, why don't we transition a little bit into
Speaker 6: why we wanted to bring Chileuah on the show today?
Speaker 4: We like to bring people on and talk about, you know,
Speaker 4: an area of their film expertise, right, Like, have you
Speaker 4: gone really hard on like a specific director or a
Speaker 4: specific genre. Are you like very well versed in you know,
Speaker 4: a certain type of film or like a franchise of
Speaker 4: some kind. And so when I asked you this question
Speaker 4: and you replied, yes, I do have an expertise, and
Speaker 4: then you told me what the expertise was, I was thrilled.
Speaker 5: Let's just say that.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and I think that because Casey and I
Speaker 4: both share this passion as well. Oh good, So I
Speaker 4: feel like we're gonna have an incredible debates slash a debate.
Speaker 4: I think there's gonna be a debate because I feel
Speaker 4: like over the course, I mean, let's just say it, Chile,
Speaker 4: what is your area of expertise that you like to
Speaker 4: talk about today.
Speaker 8: My area of expertise i'd like to discuss today is
Speaker 8: the Magic Mike Universe, the trilogy, the trilogy.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, I would like to first and foremost, I
Speaker 4: would like to establish a timeline, if you'll bear with me. Okay,
Speaker 4: let's establish a timeline of the moment you figured out
Speaker 4: who Channing Tatum was. Did it start with the Step
Speaker 4: Up films or did you know him prior to that?
Speaker 4: Like did how did you enter the universe via Channing Tatum?
Speaker 8: It was the Step Up movie, the first one. I
Speaker 8: didn't see it in the theater, and I did end
Speaker 8: up renting it and watching it, and I remember at
Speaker 8: some point standing up and yelling, why didn't I see
Speaker 8: this in the theater because it's so amazing. Yeah, but
Speaker 8: that definitely was my entry point into Channing Tatum, and
Speaker 8: I viewed him in a particular way, which definitely evolved
Speaker 8: as I got to know him more.
Speaker 1: Air quotes around.
Speaker 8: No, but yes, he came in and he really stole
Speaker 8: my heart very quickly because he is what I like
Speaker 8: to call one of our chin strap beard warriors. And
Speaker 8: that is what I call any young Caucasian man who
Speaker 8: has an affinity for Black music, for R and B,
Speaker 8: especially for hip hopes, for all aspects of hip hop,
Speaker 8: the graffiti, all of the graffiti, the break dancing.
Speaker 1: It's the breakdancing is important.
Speaker 5: It is my kryptonite. I have gone on record I can.
Speaker 8: I truly am stone cold.
Speaker 1: I'm the deuce out here.
Speaker 8: But if you are a young white man with a
Speaker 8: respectable fade, or a shaved head and or a chin
Speaker 8: strap beard.
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's gonna be problems. I'm a weekend.
Speaker 1: I'm a little weak.
Speaker 6: And what was it when you saw it? What was
Speaker 6: your reaction to it? Was it nervous and excitement or like,
Speaker 6: were you surprised by your reaction to it? Were you
Speaker 6: comforted by the dancing?
Speaker 1: I fully enjoyed it, Millie. We saw it together.
Speaker 4: Yes, we did, full disclosure, full disclosure.
Speaker 1: It was there. We saw it together.
Speaker 8: We like ran, we ran, but I enjoyed magic Mike.
Speaker 6: But it also was a little dark. Yes, yes it was.
Speaker 8: And I remember walking out that was like, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 8: they danced, but oh my god, what.
Speaker 6: They could have danced more?
Speaker 4: Well, this is kind of the like trajectory that I
Speaker 4: think is really interesting about this franchise because it's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: the first movie was like kind of a dark drama
Speaker 4: in certain parts, and it was really mostly about the
Speaker 4: Alex Pettifer character, who was kind of like like because
Speaker 4: Channing Tatum like magical Michael, if you will, well, yes,
Speaker 4: he was already in the world. And then you as
Speaker 4: a viewer were with the Adam character. The Alex Powlifer
Speaker 4: character who was like, I'm new to this. I need
Speaker 4: some extra cash. I guess I'm gonna like start, you know,
Speaker 4: down this road of exotic dancing and drugs and women
Speaker 4: and all this stuff. And that was kind of more
Speaker 4: about his descent into the world. And so there was
Speaker 4: a serious moment, you know, or two, but it was
Speaker 4: like it was really his story. And then when the
Speaker 4: second one came out right yes, they basically were like, well,
Speaker 4: the public has spoken, we have heard the request. Nothing
Speaker 4: no more serious. We don't care about this. Who the
Speaker 4: fuck cares about Adam. We might as well kill off, right.
Speaker 4: We need to get rid of the darkness.
Speaker 6: We need to get rid of plots, we need to
Speaker 6: get rid of, you know, all the extra stuff, and
Speaker 6: really concentrate. It's a concentrated film into what is the essence?
Speaker 6: And I think Magic Mike XXL is the one that
Speaker 6: is now remembered mostly.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, absolutely, I think so.
Speaker 8: I think what they did is they took the montage
Speaker 8: in the first one of first, they took out all
Speaker 8: the soderbergness, and for EXXL they took the montage of
Speaker 8: Matthew McConaughey teaching the new kid how to move like
Speaker 8: a rattlesnake in the marriage and then you stick it.
Speaker 1: They took that and then they.
Speaker 8: Took it out of the Golden Hour lighting, did some color.
Speaker 1: Brighten this up. Let's check the color of this bitch.
Speaker 8: And then they and then they were like, let's make
Speaker 8: a whole movie of that energy.
Speaker 4: Put them in an ice cream truck and let them
Speaker 4: travel around the South.
Speaker 1: America loves a road movie.
Speaker 5: America loves it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they really.
Speaker 6: They remove all steaks too, I mean, there's like no
Speaker 6: steaks in the second one. I mean, in some ways,
Speaker 6: Magic my XXL feels more like kind of like an
Speaker 6: art house experimental film because you're like.
Speaker 4: Where are you? Where are they going?
Speaker 6: It's not a competition. They're not going it's like a showcase.
Speaker 6: They don't win anything, so there's no like prize money
Speaker 6: that they need to get something. They're just kind of
Speaker 6: like hanging out, going place to place, you know, dropping
Speaker 6: in on all these people and thrusting on them. And
Speaker 6: it's just like it's more of an interesting kind of
Speaker 6: experiment in what a film can be than the first one,
Speaker 6: which is more of like a traditional like arc you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the second one is definitely. It's a magic
Speaker 1: magic magic magic bike.
Speaker 4: Magic magic magic.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 4: Well, what I think is also really fascinating about the
Speaker 4: second one, too, is that they introduced this Jada Pinkett
Speaker 4: Smith speak on it mansion of Exotic Dancing Men like
Speaker 4: whatever this yeah private Club was, and that in and
Speaker 4: of itself has a lore that needs its own movie totally,
Speaker 4: Like that house needs to have its own franchise.
Speaker 6: It has has its own like Ballerina john Wick type
Speaker 6: movie exactly.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I may be getting ahead of us, but
Speaker 8: this is why I was so angry with the Last Dance, Yes,
Speaker 8: Magic Mike's Last Dance, the third one, we'll get there, yeah,
Speaker 8: but because of what they did in the second movie, Like,
Speaker 8: there are a couple of stories that definitely could have
Speaker 8: been just like offshoots from this main thing.
Speaker 1: That would have been fine, you know, maybe.
Speaker 8: Not theatrical release, I don't know, but you could have
Speaker 8: thrown that either on straight to DVD or a streamer
Speaker 8: wherever it would have fallen in the timeline of.
Speaker 1: Excellent to be movie, an excellent TOOV.
Speaker 4: Movie, ye'd be like an Amazon free V original, Yes,
Speaker 4: free V original of like what's your Name?
Speaker 1: Big Big Dick? Big Dick rich.
Speaker 8: Like he finally finding his glass slipper and now moving
Speaker 8: in like probably taking up with that woman.
Speaker 1: What did that look like?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Totally.
Speaker 8: Also to find out the personalities of these dancers.
Speaker 4: They were like a boy band. It was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: boy band, Like it was like he had the bomber character,
Speaker 4: was kind of this like Ed Kowalchiky like kombucha Eastern
Speaker 4: religion guy. And you're like, why did that happen? And
Speaker 4: then you know you've got like the big Dick Richie story.
Speaker 4: I mean even like the fucking Kevin Nash had a
Speaker 4: moment pantest.
Speaker 8: Yes, right, and then it was a desert storm like
Speaker 8: all kinds of all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1: Then it's like what And it's not like.
Speaker 8: I need you to give me a movie for each
Speaker 8: one of these guys, like a like a children's book.
Speaker 1: Or some I don't need.
Speaker 8: I don't need to know all of that, but there
Speaker 8: were a couple of things that happened to them that
Speaker 8: it's like, how did you end up here?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know you definitely could be we could do a.
Speaker 6: Four Rooms sure, yeah, different directors, just take.
Speaker 4: You know, what director for each one, like an anthology?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel like we could do that for them.
Speaker 8: At the very least, that would have been something, Yeah, well.
Speaker 6: Bringing up the characters and like how you get to
Speaker 6: know them in the second one, which is like what
Speaker 6: makes that second one so great? Then they take that
Speaker 6: away immediately in the third one.
Speaker 4: My gosh, I think they're.
Speaker 6: On a zoom call or something.
Speaker 4: You was so offended by that. I was. I was like,
Speaker 4: I am walking.
Speaker 5: Out of this theater.
Speaker 4: And I saw the third one in London. Oh wow.
Speaker 4: I was actually in England the weekend that it came out,
Speaker 4: and I was like, I feel like I'm in the story,
Speaker 4: you know whatever, why in London? Don't know why? And
Speaker 4: then when that happened, I was like, you're meeting to
Speaker 4: tell me that the boys the gang are gonna be
Speaker 4: relegated to a fucking zoom. That was like all stutter
Speaker 4: and like, you know, bad wi fi. I was like,
Speaker 4: this is an insult, an insult to the second one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was so mad.
Speaker 6: Well, I thought that they were like setting it up.
Speaker 6: It's like, Oh, don't worry, They're gonna have to fix
Speaker 6: some things with the show and they're going to bring
Speaker 6: the boys back to help fix the show. And that
Speaker 6: did not happen.
Speaker 8: No, we didn't even get a good like boys in
Speaker 8: that they found. That's really what I got me. I
Speaker 8: was like, okay, it really was bad. It was it
Speaker 8: was Godfather three, y'all.
Speaker 1: It was gone.
Speaker 8: The whole thing gave me my personally. I was like, oh,
Speaker 8: this is my personal Godfather. Because I love the first one.
Speaker 8: I really love the second one. The second one had
Speaker 8: two stories going on really and then the third one
Speaker 8: is questionable at best, but I do not like it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well the third one made me sad too, because you know,
Speaker 6: in Magic Mike ex excel, it seems like he's gotten
Speaker 6: the furniture business off the ground. He's making his own money,
Speaker 6: he's doing well. Yeah, the third one starts with him
Speaker 6: working some shitty catering job at Selma Jayak's house. I'm like,
Speaker 6: what happened?
Speaker 4: What happens?
Speaker 6: I don't know. It's just like starts as an off
Speaker 6: as a bummer.
Speaker 1: It does, it really does.
Speaker 8: And I mean after the first performance that he gives
Speaker 8: for he did a few things. I was just like physically,
Speaker 8: I'm like, oh, wow, okay, you still got it, Mike.
Speaker 8: I don't like, you don't want to train like Magic
Speaker 8: Mike the next Generation or like a like you know,
Speaker 8: which I think.
Speaker 1: Is already like a reality show or something.
Speaker 8: But sure there was space for him to pass down
Speaker 8: his chin strap like learnings teachings to London where I'm sure,
Speaker 8: I'm sure the chin strap dude situation there is fantastic.
Speaker 8: They concentrated on the wrong thing because they paid for
Speaker 8: Salmahayak to be there.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like this franchise could either be rebooted
Speaker 4: at some future points, maybe even completely different people right,
Speaker 4: you know how they do now? Or there will be
Speaker 4: like a fourth movie way into the future that could
Speaker 4: be done. Maybe it is like a Netflix thing or
Speaker 4: something like. Do you feel like that's at all possible
Speaker 4: any future with this franchise at all?
Speaker 8: I don't think the reviews were great on three, and
Speaker 8: that may have stuck in Channing Tatum's Krang maybe a
Speaker 8: little bit, because that is I feel like what it
Speaker 8: would take for a fourth one to be made. It's
Speaker 8: there's room you can you can save it if you
Speaker 8: have a movie with a little life in it. I honestly,
Speaker 8: I really love the idea of like doing the Jada story,
Speaker 8: but that might be too far gone now. Yeah, but
Speaker 8: I think that they could do some sort of a reboot.
Speaker 4: Like what if they got like Nicholas Galazine.
Speaker 8: To be Oh, Nicholas Gallatin, that's my new favorite guy.
Speaker 1: I love him so much.
Speaker 4: What if he was Magic Mike, the son Magic Mike.
Speaker 8: I called it the Son of Magic Mike. That would
Speaker 8: be enough. Son of Magic Mike is like so funny. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I think that's what they would have to do. They'd
Speaker 8: have to do it like they did the Step Up,
Speaker 8: like where Channing just comes through for one scene and
Speaker 8: he's literally glowing like I don't know, Obi wan kenobi
Speaker 8: or some shit, and he just kind of comes through
Speaker 8: and it's just like I give you the power or
Speaker 8: something something glittery throat and now he's able to his
Speaker 8: son or his nephew or some whatever is now able
Speaker 8: to I think that's what it would take.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I have a pitch just based on everything
Speaker 6: you just said, Shaliua, son of Son of Magic Mike. Okay,
Speaker 6: Nicholas Gallop, why does Gallon see allance scene? Okay, he's
Speaker 6: Channing and he has a bad relationship with his father,
Speaker 6: uh huh okay, and he goes up into his attic
Speaker 6: and he finds all the old pictures and videos of
Speaker 6: his dad stripping, and then he starts stripping. And then
Speaker 6: Magic Mike is like, you don't want to go down
Speaker 6: that road, like it'll ruin, it'll kill you.
Speaker 1: Love it, let's go.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 6: In the end the finale, Channing comes out to save
Speaker 6: his son somehow by stripping.
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm kind of here for it.
Speaker 6: I think that would work.
Speaker 4: The other Angels. The other angels show up.
Speaker 6: Okay, Like like at the end of Star Wars, you
Speaker 6: see the ghosts of All We Want and Darth there,
Speaker 6: big big, and he's like translucent, you know, like smiling down.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because they're absolutely I would love nothing more than
Speaker 8: to see Nicholas Gallatin in an attic lifting out of
Speaker 8: a dusty box a penis pump.
Speaker 6: Yes, just got.
Speaker 8: Blowing the dust off a penis pump and just like
Speaker 8: what is this and then like hacking it all up,
Speaker 8: leaving the house, you know. Give us a little bit
Speaker 8: of love is a battlefl Pat Benatar video vibe, like
Speaker 8: all of this a little bit of very eighties like
Speaker 8: Us against the System vibe. Yes, anything that ends with
Speaker 8: somebody with their fist up at the end in a
Speaker 8: freeze frame.
Speaker 1: I think we got it. Yeah, No, I think that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's it.
Speaker 8: Oh, it's a way in, it's away in, and it's
Speaker 8: so wild and then you just want to see what happened.
Speaker 4: Yes, Oh man, lord, I'm gonna cash up my bir
Speaker 4: and fun. If you guys co write the screenplay, I
Speaker 4: will fund whatever.
Speaker 5: I will fund the production.
Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, I'm here for it. I'm here for it.
Speaker 4: Well, Chile, Well listen, we really really appreciate you coming
Speaker 4: on the pod to give your takes, h your expertise
Speaker 4: on the Magic Mic franchise. If people want to find
Speaker 4: you online or do you have any shows coming up?
Speaker 4: What's all that info?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 8: Sure, I am tragically and cross online at still at
Speaker 8: all of the things. My handle on all of them
Speaker 8: is at Silky Jumbo all one word traditional spelling except
Speaker 8: for TikTok, where the O.
Speaker 1: At the end is a zero.
Speaker 8: But if you actually just put the O in, you'll
Speaker 8: find the other account that I forgot the password too.
Speaker 1: You'll find me. Look, I'm there, I'm there.
Speaker 8: I swear my website is chilewassharp dot tumblr dot com
Speaker 8: because I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Why would I leave Tumblr?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm on Instagram a lot. I'm on Twitter, the
Speaker 8: only dead name I used. I'm on Twitter all the time.
Speaker 8: That's usually where you can find where I'm going to
Speaker 8: be if you are in the New York City area.
Speaker 8: UCB has a theater on East fourteenth Street, and on
Speaker 8: Monday nights, there's a free stand up comedy show called
Speaker 8: Whiplash and I am the host of that. That's a
Speaker 8: very storied sand up show that has is back from
Speaker 8: the risen from the Ashes along with UCB again and
Speaker 8: uh and so I'm hosting that, So you can find
Speaker 8: me there just stumbling through jokes and pointing at people
Speaker 8: in audiences and laughing at them, and.
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, that's about it.
Speaker 8: I teach at the Brooklyn Comedy Collective online. If you
Speaker 8: look up Brooklyncomedy dot com that's them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: And then otherwise I'm just kind of haunting the streets
Speaker 8: a lot. I can't easily be found.
Speaker 4: Great, yeah, no I And then war Report, I gotta
Speaker 4: say such a great podcast.
Speaker 5: You and Castro are absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 4: It's more like a current affairs like you know, news
Speaker 4: of the day kind of podcast. It comes like on
Speaker 4: what every week, you guys had do bonus.
Speaker 8: Every Yeah, every Thursday for sure, and occasionally on Mondays.
Speaker 8: That's our bonus episode that we still seem to have done. Uh,
Speaker 8: and people expect and I'm like, I don't know if
Speaker 8: we understand what bonus means all of us, but uh, yeah,
Speaker 8: it's me and Stormonte, who's a very funny comedian and
Speaker 8: he's a very Brooklyn, a Brooklyn boy and just very
Speaker 8: New York and I have to break him up. That
Speaker 8: break him up that because he's so Brooklyn and I
Speaker 8: just gotta it's enough, it's too much.
Speaker 1: So that's that's what we're doing while talking about news stories.
Speaker 4: Well, thanks again, Shilelah, You're the best.
Speaker 5: We really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Thank you. This is great, my pleasure.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 8: I just would be sitting in my living room talking
Speaker 8: about these movies anyway, So.
Speaker 4: There you go. Oh my goodness, love man. I've known
Speaker 4: her for so long, we have been bros for so
Speaker 4: long that it's kind of like, I don't know, it's
Speaker 4: effervescent when I talk to her, and I'm just glad
Speaker 4: now you know each other.
Speaker 6: That was a hard conversation to even stop talking about
Speaker 6: Magic Mike because I feel like it really there was
Speaker 6: so much more in the chamber there. We really, I mean,
Speaker 6: we could have. Yeah, it was really hard to pull
Speaker 6: back on that. I mean, we might need to do
Speaker 6: follow up episodes, honestly, yo, Yo.
Speaker 4: It made me want to change the theme of the
Speaker 4: podcast just do we want about the Magic Mic franchise.
Speaker 6: So there you go. Frankly the format of the podcast
Speaker 6: to all of our episodes being about the Magic Mic
Speaker 6: extended universe. So that was great. Oh god, Okay, moving on,
Speaker 6: Let's get into our final segment of the show, Employee Picks.
Speaker 6: This is where we do a film recommendation based on
Speaker 6: kind of what we talked about in this episode. Did
Speaker 6: I ever tell you about the chicks picks at Mister
Speaker 6: Movies at my local video store?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: I love employee Picks, so tell me tell me about it.
Speaker 6: So there was like, you know, the staff picks at
Speaker 6: my local video store, Mister Movies in Minneapolis, and it
Speaker 6: was all dudes who worked there, and they were nice men.
Speaker 6: But my mom was like bothered by this. My mother
Speaker 6: and so she went in and she was like, you know,
Speaker 6: you don't have any women on the staff. Picks. It's
Speaker 6: like five guys recommending action movies.
Speaker 4: Love that.
Speaker 6: And the manager was like, oh my gosh, you're right.
Speaker 6: To his credit, he was like, oh my gosh, you're right.
Speaker 6: We need to do something about this. And my mom goes, well,
Speaker 6: I have an idea. How woul we do a box
Speaker 6: and women can submit their picks to this box and
Speaker 6: you can have a chicks Picks row.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: He was like, oh, that's great. Yeah, maybe we'll get
Speaker 6: started on that. And then my mom is like, well,
Speaker 6: I already made a box for you. So here's your
Speaker 6: box and you can put it up on the counter.
Speaker 6: So then like the next week, there was a little
Speaker 6: you know, on one of the shelves it said chicks
Speaker 6: Picks with movies recommended by women.
Speaker 5: First of all, you're fired. You're mom is hired to who.
Speaker 4: Host this podcast?
Speaker 8: Me?
Speaker 6: My mom's a pioneer.
Speaker 4: I think it explains a lot about you, to be honest.
Speaker 4: That is wonderful. She's like a fucking suffragette or something.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 6: Oh my god. Anyways, yeah, that's kind of my you know,
Speaker 6: part of my film history. You know, as a child,
Speaker 6: I was probably like twelve when my mom did that.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's like and honestly, were you ever able to
Speaker 4: create an employee pick at all in any of your jobs?
Speaker 5: Because I take that shit real seriously.
Speaker 6: No, I don't think. I don't think I've had an
Speaker 6: opportunity to do something like that.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you should just get a job where
Speaker 4: you could do it.
Speaker 5: It is so fun.
Speaker 6: So quit this podcast and do something else and have
Speaker 6: my mom co hosts the podcast with you and staid Okay,
Speaker 6: got it.
Speaker 4: Of course, all of a sudden, I think we're ironing
Speaker 4: out the rest of your life here. Sure, But you know,
Speaker 4: I worked in many record stores. I worked at Tower Records.
Speaker 4: That was like such a huge responsibility because that was
Speaker 4: in a very prominent location in the store.
Speaker 5: I mean there are Tower Records, of course.
Speaker 4: And I was like, your mom, I was like, this
Speaker 4: is such a moment for me as one of the
Speaker 4: only women that work in a store, a music store.
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm doing research. I'm gonna do things unexpected.
Speaker 4: I'm not doing it like the other guys do it.
Speaker 4: So needless to say, this is the employee picks is
Speaker 4: such a part of video store culture, so we wanted
Speaker 4: to kind of replicate something like that.
Speaker 5: Because we just thought it would be really cool totally.
Speaker 6: So imagine this on a shelf in a digital video
Speaker 6: store somewhere. Yeah, so, Millie, why did you give your
Speaker 6: your pick first?
Speaker 4: So my employee pick for this week, because we are
Speaker 4: talking about dry January and drinking and films, is actually
Speaker 4: about alcoholism. It's kind of a bummer, not gonna lie.
Speaker 4: But it's a film from nineteen fifty two and it's
Speaker 4: called come Back, Little Sheiba, directed by the great Daniel Man.
Speaker 5: This is a movie.
Speaker 4: That stars Burt Lancaster and Shirley Booth, who is one
Speaker 4: of my favorite actresses in classic Hollywood. If you like
Speaker 4: Shirley Booth, email us at Deer Movies at exactly Rightmedia
Speaker 4: dot com. We are gonna be friends if you like
Speaker 4: Shirley Booth. But it's a movie about this married couple.
Speaker 4: You know, obviously Burt Lancaster Shirley Booth, married couple, and
Speaker 4: Burt Lancaster is an alcoholic and he's in recovery. And
Speaker 4: it was one of the first or maybe the first
Speaker 4: time that alcoholics anonymous AA was ever mentioned in a film,
Speaker 4: So it kind of has.
Speaker 5: A little bit of a little bit of historical relevance
Speaker 5: because of that.
Speaker 4: But it's a heartbreaker, man, and I love a fucking
Speaker 4: fifties weepye.
Speaker 5: I love these types of films.
Speaker 4: There's no like Frederick marsh being a charming, joyous drunk.
Speaker 4: This is straight up like, I hate my life because
Speaker 4: I can't have a drink and I don't know if
Speaker 4: I want to be married anymore, and now I gotta
Speaker 4: watch my husband feel this way. And it's just it's
Speaker 4: a bomber of a film. But it is a great
Speaker 4: film and I feel like it's not talked about enough.
Speaker 4: So there's that. That's my reck.
Speaker 6: Fabulous, Yeah, fabulous. I haven't seen it.
Speaker 4: I got it.
Speaker 6: I must check it out.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: My recommendation since we're talking about drinking, is a movie
Speaker 6: from twenty twenty. It's a Danish film, so you will
Speaker 6: be reading subtitles, y'all. It's called Another Round. It's by
Speaker 6: the filmmaker Thomas Vinterberg. It stars the very hot Mad's Michelson,
Speaker 6: and it is about these four high school teachers who
Speaker 6: kind of all sort of have depressing lives. They're friends
Speaker 6: and they read about this medical guy who says that
Speaker 6: you actually operate better if you're a tiny bit drunk,
Speaker 6: like your optimal pH kind of level is if you
Speaker 6: are a little bit drunk. So they decide to test
Speaker 6: this out and like are just kind of drunk all
Speaker 6: the time. And at first it's like fun, Yeah, they
Speaker 6: feel great all the time, and then it sort of
Speaker 6: devolves as some of these guys shouldn't be drinking all
Speaker 6: the time. It's an interesting kind of exploration of alcohol
Speaker 6: because I think it has a more complex conversation because
Speaker 6: it's not saying like drinking is bad. It's more like
Speaker 6: drinking can be bad. If your life is bad and
Speaker 6: you are drinking a lot, that is bad. But alcohol
Speaker 6: in it of itself isn't bad, but it can be.
Speaker 6: And so I don't know, it's kind of an interesting
Speaker 6: thing because I just feel like sometimes movies exploration of
Speaker 6: drinking is so cut and dry. If you see someone
Speaker 6: drinking hard alcohol in a movie, you're like, uh ooh,
Speaker 6: something bad's gonna happen. That guy's tortured, you know. So
Speaker 6: I think it's a really interesting movie by a really
Speaker 6: interesting filmmaker. It won Best International Film at the Oscars.
Speaker 6: Thomas Vnderberg is a very interesting filmmaker. He comes from
Speaker 6: Denmark and he was a part of the Dogma ninety
Speaker 6: five movement. She started with another Danish filmmaker named Lars
Speaker 6: von Trier, and that was like in the nineties, and
Speaker 6: they had all these rules for making films. It was
Speaker 6: like had to be shot on like a video camera
Speaker 6: with no tripod, no violence. They had all these rules.
Speaker 6: They were kind of like really art housey movies, and
Speaker 6: there are some really good ones, like one of his films,
Speaker 6: The Celebration is really good, even if it is shot
Speaker 6: on a video camera. But he kind of was like, ah,
Speaker 6: I don't want to do that anymore, and he stopped
Speaker 6: making movies. He stopped being like such a pretentious prick.
Speaker 6: But Another Round is fabulous. Leonardo DiCaprio was supposed to
Speaker 6: remake it, but I don't know if that's still happening,
Speaker 6: but I'm checking it out. So anyways, Another Round. You
Speaker 6: can watch that on Prime it's on if you're a
Speaker 6: Prime Video I think it's You can stream it on
Speaker 6: there Peacock Canopy, which is a library app. You can
Speaker 6: watch movies for free on there. So it's in a
Speaker 6: lot of places, but check it out. It's a great movie.
Speaker 6: Another Round from twenty twenty sounds great.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 6: Millie. Oh my god. We recorded our entire first episode
Speaker 6: and we didn't kill each other by the end of it.
Speaker 4: No, I just fired you and hired her mother.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was fired a few times replaced by my mom,
Speaker 6: which was humiliating, but we made it to the end.
Speaker 4: We did, We did. I'm excited this is This is
Speaker 4: gonna be so fun.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 5: We hope you enjoyed it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, we have so many ideas about what
Speaker 6: we want to do for this show. This is going
Speaker 6: to be changing all the time. You know, new segments
Speaker 6: are coming in. It's going to be a very vibrant show.
Speaker 6: We're very excited about it. We have so many ideas
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Speaker 4: Or if you.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we love hearing your voices. Like, the accents are fantastic.
Speaker 4: That's like my favorite part.
Speaker 6: Well play it on the show. Yeah, love hearing these accents.
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Speaker 6: That's right. Well, Mellanie, thank you for a wonderful first episodiode.
Speaker 6: Hopefully many more to come after this.
Speaker 4: Oh I agree. I had such a blast.
Speaker 6: So much fun, so much fun. All right, Well bye, everybody,
Speaker 6: see you next time.
Speaker 4: This has been an exactly right production hosted by me
Speaker 4: Milli to Cherico and produced by my co host Kasey O'Brien.
Speaker 6: This episode was mixed by Tom Bryfogel, our associate producer
Speaker 6: is Christina Chamberlain, our guest booker is Patrick Cottner, and
Speaker 6: our artwork is by Vanessa Lilac.
Speaker 4: Our incredible theme music is by the best band in
Speaker 4: the entire world, The Softies.
Speaker 6: Thank you to our executive producers Karen Kilgareff, Georgia hart Stark,
Speaker 6: Daniel Kramer and Milli.
Speaker 1: To Chercho, we love you.
Speaker 4: Goodbye, bec