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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang, and Happy Thanksgiving. On today's show, we've

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Speaker 1: got the latest on Kyla Murray and what is quickly

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Speaker 1: becoming a depleted safety room. And then we dive into

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. Just what should the Cardinals expect, especially offensively?

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Speaker 1: Of course, when you talk Patriots, you gotta talk Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: and we will. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode three fifty eight,

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Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with

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Speaker 1: Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented

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Speaker 1: by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by

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Speaker 1: Murray rolls to the right, throws near sight of Fitts

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Speaker 1: barb Head. He's into the ensode for the touchdown. Here's

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Speaker 1: Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki. So it happens every practice

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Speaker 1: as the team breaks from the team stretch and then

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Speaker 1: everyone goes their different positions. They're different position groups on

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Speaker 1: different parts of the field. All eyes always m J

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Speaker 1: go towards the quarterbacks. But it's this week everyone is

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Speaker 1: focused on the quarterbacks. There's no, hey, what's this group doing?

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Speaker 1: What's that group doing? Now? Everyone wants to know what

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Speaker 1: number one is doing. You're out there during the open

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Speaker 1: portion of practice here on this Wednesday, and yes we're

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Speaker 1: looking ahead to Sunday and no speculation here, but people

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Speaker 1: want to know about Kyler Murray and how his arm,

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Speaker 1: how his shoulder is looking. He was, He was out

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Speaker 1: there for the stretching and then they pair off to

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Speaker 1: as you pointed out different position groups. Initially, you know,

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Speaker 1: Chris Struggler and Brett Hunley, we're you know, they were

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Speaker 1: taking reps and he was warming up and then once

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Speaker 1: he felt comfortable, he was doing his normal routine, which

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Speaker 1: and then as we're walking off the field, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they break down into individual you know, offense and defense.

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Speaker 1: And we didn't get a chance to see that. But

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Speaker 1: it wasn't like he was out there just standing there.

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Speaker 1: He had his helmet, he was fully addressed. I took

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Speaker 1: a picture of it just to show it. Picture says

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Speaker 1: a thousand words. And barring any setback, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind he's going to play in

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Speaker 1: this game. Yeah, and That's what we've kind of been

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Speaker 1: saying all week long, because if there was a game

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Speaker 1: to miss a year ago, it would have been that

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Speaker 1: last game against Seattle when he was dealing with a

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Speaker 1: hamstring injury. And not only did he start, but he

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Speaker 1: played all the way at the first half until Brett

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Speaker 1: Huntley had to come in and relieve him. But I

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Speaker 1: think that is something to excuse me. That was the

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Speaker 1: Seattle game in which he got hurt, but that last

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Speaker 1: it's it's a meaningless game. You know why I put

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Speaker 1: him out there, but he wanted to play. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: as effective because he couldn't run, and that would be

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Speaker 1: something to pay attention to this week. It's not a

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Speaker 1: and when you look at it, you know, Cliff did

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Speaker 1: And if he, if he pointed out, now just could

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Speaker 1: be gamesmanship. But if Kyler Murray didn't go, they were

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Speaker 1: going to go Chris Streveler, and you know, I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are thinking, well, Chris Streveler is

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Speaker 1: and I think he showed that last year. And then

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Speaker 1: they take a picture, they show that picture of Streveler

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Speaker 1: when he won the Great Cup where he's basically doesn't

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Speaker 1: hope it doesn't come to that. The only thing I

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Speaker 1: season long. So if Murray does not play, Streveler would

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Speaker 1: be your starter and Huntley your backup. But that's what

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Speaker 1: But I would be more surprised if he doesn't play.

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Speaker 1: but it would be a huge shock if he doesn't play. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I definitely agree with that, and again, they know what's

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Speaker 1: the NFL. They're leaving Friday, it's an early start, eleven am.

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Speaker 1: We know that they've won some East Coast games this year,

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Speaker 1: a one on one matchup. Football is eleven on eleven matchup.

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Speaker 1: Kyle and just different you know sites I check out.

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Speaker 1: I think it's very beneficial and third and one, fourth

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Speaker 1: wide receivers in the first round, but they definitely had

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Speaker 1: a need there. But yeah, he's willing to play field

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Speaker 1: position with you, and a lot of times the weather

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Speaker 1: could be a factor, which it won't be when when

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Speaker 1: the schedule came out. You're always concerned with that. But

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Speaker 1: he's he's not afraid to just run the ball into

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Speaker 1: the line and play field position because now he's going

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Speaker 1: to force you to do something with your offense. Well,

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Speaker 1: what do we say, Your best defense sometimes is your offense,

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Speaker 1: especially if you want to keep the other team off

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Speaker 1: the field. If the goal is to keep Kyle the

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Speaker 1: Murray off the field, then I can certainly see the

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Speaker 1: Patriots running the ball a lot more. Now a couple

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Speaker 1: of points with that. They've got Damien Harris, they've got

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Speaker 1: James White, but they lost Rex Workhead because of a

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Speaker 1: knee injury, and he tweeted out that he's done for

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Speaker 1: the season with a torn acl The other question mark

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Speaker 1: for the Patriots on that offensive side as they're left

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Speaker 1: tackle Isaiah Winn left last week's game with an ankle injury.

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Speaker 1: How healthy is he to kind of help with that

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Speaker 1: rushing attack. Yeah, and so to me, you're probably going

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Speaker 1: to see a lot of short passes because you know

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Speaker 1: how I feel about those. They're almost extended run plays,

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Speaker 1: and they're capable of going on a ten or twelve

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Speaker 1: play drive because they're probably not going to turn the

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Speaker 1: ball over because they're not going to throw it very far.

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Speaker 1: And that's where Cam comes in. And Cam Newton's the

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Speaker 1: perfect quarterback on the third and one and fourth and

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Speaker 1: one just because of his size. We know Brady did

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Speaker 1: he excelled at it, but he put the ball up

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Speaker 1: there and it was never punched out. Cam is willing

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Speaker 1: to dive into that guard center spot, and you got

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Speaker 1: to say it's almost automatic because he's six s five

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Speaker 1: and two hundred and sixty pounds. So when it comes

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Speaker 1: to short yardage, that's how they're able to extend drives. Well. Now,

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Speaker 1: he was talking with Mike Reees earlier today. He covers

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Speaker 1: the Patriots for ESPN dot com, and we were talking

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Speaker 1: about this Patriots team and it's been two decades since

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Speaker 1: the Patriots have been in this position, this late in

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Speaker 1: the season, meaning not in the playoff picture. And he

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Speaker 1: pointed to that game against the Seahawks when Cam Newton

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Speaker 1: tried to do exactly what you said late in that ballgame.

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Speaker 1: He pointed to that play that missed opportunity scoring a

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Speaker 1: touchdown to where this season turned for the Patriots. And

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Speaker 1: then obviously it didn't help that Newton had to miss

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Speaker 1: a game because he landed on the reserve COVID nineteen list.

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Speaker 1: But if you're able to take away with the Patriots

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Speaker 1: do best, and that is running the football. You know

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Speaker 1: you always say one dimensional, but I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton can lead a Patriots offense if they get

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Speaker 1: down too much. And that goes back to what we

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Speaker 1: started this conversation getting off to a fast start. If

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Speaker 1: you can score on your first couple of drives it

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Speaker 1: off to a ten, fourteen point lead early in the contest,

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Speaker 1: then you can set the temple. You can dictate the

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Speaker 1: pace of the ball game as opposed to the other

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Speaker 1: way around. Yeah, I remember that game he fumbled the

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Speaker 1: ball Newton did and then don't normally don't happen, especially

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Speaker 1: they were ready to score. You know, the game could

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Speaker 1: have been a lot different. Mike Rease man, you ever,

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Speaker 1: he's one of the nicest guys you'll love her meet.

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Speaker 1: He always finds time and it can't be easy covering

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Speaker 1: the Patriots because he's done it. And sometimes you gotta

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Speaker 1: ask the tough question instead of head coach, and you know,

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Speaker 1: if there's a pause in between there, you don't know

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen. So I'm glad you got a

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Speaker 1: chance to talk to Mike Grease because I think he's

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Speaker 1: one of the best beat writers in the country. He

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Speaker 1: can thank Belichick and Brady for his I would say,

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Speaker 1: what his popularity, Well, yeah, that's the word I'm looking for,

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Speaker 1: popularity because you know, you're in the playoffs every single year,

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Speaker 1: You're in the AFC Championship Game every single year, again,

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl every single year, and there's Mike Greece

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Speaker 1: on my television set every single January, every single day.

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Speaker 1: But you're right, it's not only is he a great guy,

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Speaker 1: but he's very knowledgeable. And yes, you have to ask

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Speaker 1: the tough questions to the head coach, and I think

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Speaker 1: Belichick understands it. He just in a position talking about

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Speaker 1: Belichick that well, you know, whether he answers you or

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Speaker 1: not is a different story. Let me tell you a

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Speaker 1: story about Mike Grease. So when I was doing radio

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Speaker 1: and I met a lot of different times through the combine,

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Speaker 1: we exchanged numbers and so before they were playing the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: maybe he would have been that first game on that

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Speaker 1: Sunday night when Brady didn't play. He was serving that

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Speaker 1: suspension four years ago. Four years ago. Yeah, so Mike

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Speaker 1: calls me and he says, I'm locked out of the house,

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Speaker 1: and he said, can you give me a couple of

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Speaker 1: minutes and I'll do the interview. And I'm sure he

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Speaker 1: had a cell phone, but he had a good house

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Speaker 1: and he goes on, let's just do it right now.

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Speaker 1: We'll we're about getting the keys later. I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: I want you to get in your house. It was

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Speaker 1: early in the season, so it wasn't like it was cold,

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Speaker 1: but he was so nice to where he told me,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll do it right now. But I eventually

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Speaker 1: got to get into my house and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: good luck. He can follow Mike Reess this week, bird Gang.

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Speaker 1: It's a great follow at Mike Reese on Twitter. As

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Speaker 1: we continue here on this Wednesday, Cardinals covered two presented

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Speaker 1: by Hunday probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: Mike Reese, I saw this on his social media platform.

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Speaker 1: He was asked or I guess a question was asked

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Speaker 1: Belichick about Larry Fitzgerald, and Reese tweeted out the response,

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Speaker 1: and Belichick kind of compared Fits and the wide receiver

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Speaker 1: group to Peyton Manning and the quarterback group, saying, quote,

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Speaker 1: in terms of total obsession knowing everything about the position,

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Speaker 1: how to do things and convey those to his teammates.

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Speaker 1: There is a huge amount of respect between Belichick and

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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald goes back a number of years and for

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Speaker 1: those that might have been able to watch the NFL

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Speaker 1: one hundred list Fits in studio with Belichick, and even

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Speaker 1: though they've never been on the same side, there is

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Speaker 1: certainly something that and it's been gossip. It's been rumored

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Speaker 1: that that would be the one team that Fits might

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Speaker 1: have gone to back in the day to play with

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, play with the Patriots and play under head

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Speaker 1: coach Bill Belichick. But it's it's fascinating to hear not

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Speaker 1: only Fits but Cliff Kingsbury talk about the respect and

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Speaker 1: what they have learned either up close in Kingsbury's case

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Speaker 1: or from afar with respect to Fits from Bill Belichick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Belichick's wanted Larry Fitzgerald for a long long time,

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Speaker 1: and it was always talked that, you know, let him

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Speaker 1: go play for a championship. In year thirteen or fourteen.

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Speaker 1: I told you there were two teams that would would

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Speaker 1: have picked up Larry Fitzgerald's contract at twenty three point

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Speaker 1: six because they're looking for a face of the franchise,

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Speaker 1: and at the time it was the Raiders and Browns

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Speaker 1: and Larry. He's made a decision that he didn't want

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Speaker 1: to go anywhere else. And I'm sure if the Patriots

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Speaker 1: were really a true suitor, he would have had to consider.

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Speaker 1: But he's raising his family here and we're all lucky

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Speaker 1: for it. Because I hate to bring this up, Craig,

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Speaker 1: but this could be his final six or seven games

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Speaker 1: if they make the postseason. Yeah, we don't need to

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Speaker 1: hear about that. I mean, you know, I'm sure that

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Speaker 1: will come up a little bit later on. We're still

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Speaker 1: in November. Maybe that's an end of December conversation. Although

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Speaker 1: it's the conversation MJ. We've had now for how many

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Speaker 1: straight years, four five, Well, it's going to happen at

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Speaker 1: some point, then, that's true, it's bound. It's yeah, he

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Speaker 1: can't play forever. Although a kind of just kind of

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Speaker 1: just missed the idea of you know, oh, he's coming back,

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Speaker 1: all right, He's coming back. He just I'll be more

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Speaker 1: surprised than you get that press release, because folks, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a press release. There's not gonna be a

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Speaker 1: press conference. Someone's gonna have a story or there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a tweet and all of a sudden, number eleven

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Speaker 1: is just gonna walk away and we're all gonna be like, really,

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Speaker 1: that's it. So yeah, yeah, unless unless mister Bidwell is

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Speaker 1: able to, you know, convince him, because he's got a

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Speaker 1: great relationship with the owner in the front office, and

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Speaker 1: you know they have so much respect for each other.

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Speaker 1: But he's told me in the past he's really not

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Speaker 1: gonna do a whole lot. I'm sure they would like

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Speaker 1: to bring him back in the Ring of Honor. He's

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Speaker 1: really gonna wait five years until he goes into Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. And we all owned Larry's got

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Speaker 1: a lot of things off the field, so for me,

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't be a surprise, but we'll let a play out.

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Speaker 1: It was interesting to hear fits earlier today. He kind

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Speaker 1: of had the biggest smile on the biggest reaction when

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Speaker 1: he was asked about Thanksgiving and thanks Giving dinner and

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Speaker 1: how much he's looking forward to tomorrow, which uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: typically you get the canned response and the face doesn't

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Speaker 1: change expression and the voices monotone. Yet here is fits

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Speaker 1: the big, wide smile. You see the bright white teeth

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Speaker 1: and his eyes light up and he goes on for

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Speaker 1: like thirty forty seconds about Thanksgiving. So you know he'll

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Speaker 1: open up on certain things. Just don't ask him about

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Speaker 1: XS and oaths. In the game of the National Football League, well,

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Speaker 1: he said that Chad who's one of the trainers, and

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Speaker 1: he obviously the players have a great relationship with him

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Speaker 1: because if he ever working with him, he's trying to

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Speaker 1: get you back over to the main field. And he

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Speaker 1: supposedly Fry's turkeys and he makes enough for the players.

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Speaker 1: So Larry says he's going to pick one of those up.

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Speaker 1: He's going to go to his brother Marcus's house, and

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Speaker 1: then he's going to go home. And he made a

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Speaker 1: comment that kind of Kingsbury said today when he's asked

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Speaker 1: by Katherine for sure, what's your favorite thing to do

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Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving? And he said, take a nap, And Larry

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Speaker 1: had this big smile about what he likes to eat,

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Speaker 1: and then he about a peach. Was it a cobbler, peabler,

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Speaker 1: yeah with ice. Yeah, and then he said he's gonna

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Speaker 1: fall asleep, and then he's going back to the table

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Speaker 1: for seconds. That's what we all do. So Larry has

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Speaker 1: a lot in common with us, just a different bank

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Speaker 1: account and no, no, no no when it comes to eating.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, that might be the only

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Speaker 1: thing in common with everyone there, Bird Gang. A reminder

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Speaker 1: for more information. By the way, one last notes on

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Speaker 1: coach Belichick. Both Kingsbury and Fits use the phrasing it's

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Speaker 1: an honor to be on the same field, or it's

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Speaker 1: an honor to share the same field as Belichick, who

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Speaker 1: they both called the greatest coach in football history. We

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Speaker 1: haven't talked a lot about it here on the show,

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Speaker 1: but before we say so long here on this Wednesday

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Speaker 1: and of course no show tomorrow with the Thanksgiving holiday,

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Speaker 1: and maybe we'll bring it back up on Friday's edition

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals cover too. But the Kingsbury Belichick chess match,

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Speaker 1: there's certainly a storyline, there's certainly a history there, and

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Speaker 1: it's not a one side of history. Belichick spoke very

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Speaker 1: glowingly of Kingsbury earlier this week. I just wonder how

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Speaker 1: much nerves, how much excitements Kingsbury's going to have when

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Speaker 1: he finally walks onto that field, and whether there's a

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Speaker 1: handshake at midfield or that ball is kicked off and

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury's going, all right, well, I'm going to call this play.

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Speaker 1: But then I know Belichick will do that, and then

643
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it starts messing with your mind,

644
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Speaker 1: because we've seen that from other head coaches where they

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Speaker 1: do something out of the box just to try to

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Speaker 1: get one over Coach Belichick. Yeah, I mean, I think

647
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Speaker 1: it's only human nature. Craig, He's gonna have he's gonna

648
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: have butterflies. Now again, once the game starts, it's football.

649
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Speaker 1: It's one hundred yards, it's fifty three across the board.

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00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: It's another team, and we know football is based on matchups.

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00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: So again, it's imperative golf to that good start. But

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Speaker 1: just the fact that he's kind of the pope out there,

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Speaker 1: you know, not so you're gonna kiss his ring or anything,

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Speaker 1: but well he's got several rings. Yeah I know that's okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's true. But it's gonna be human nature. I mean,

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Speaker 1: even other players is just to look over there. I mean,

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00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: we're talking about the greatest and you don't have to

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Speaker 1: look up the stats to know how well they had done.

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Speaker 1: So but at the end of the day's football, and

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Speaker 1: you know, Advance has got his work cut out. On

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels. We really haven't talked about that. Josh McDaniels

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Speaker 1: is a guy that he knows personnel, and he's been

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Speaker 1: around long enough, so I don't think that anything they

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Speaker 1: throw at him, he's not been able to see. The

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Speaker 1: only thing I'll say about, you know Belichick and what

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Speaker 1: he did to the Rams in the Super Bowl, it

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00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: was pretty remarkable. It was thirteen to three, and I

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00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: thought that Brian Floors used that same game plan. I

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Speaker 1: wonder if that's what he's going to try to do

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Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray, you know, a different quarterback different skill set,

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Speaker 1: but they only held the Rams to three points in

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Speaker 1: that Super Bowl and they had almost two weeks to

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Speaker 1: prepare it. You know, Andy Reids, what nineteen and three

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Speaker 1: coming out of bye week? This isn't a bye week.

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00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: But that's my concern is he clearly can shut your

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Speaker 1: offense down or contain it. We know scorings at an

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Speaker 1: all time high, and we know Murray's a dynamic player,

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Speaker 1: but he's going to find a way to kind of

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Speaker 1: contain him. I think, well, Flora's off that Belichick coaching tree,

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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia off that Belichick coaching tree, and Patricia now

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Speaker 1: for two seasons in a row, has had Kyler Murray's

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Speaker 1: number in this Cardinal's offense number. So my guess is

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Speaker 1: you might see a lot of what Kyd the Murray

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Speaker 1: saw against the Lions a year ago this year in

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Speaker 1: Week one, and then or as and say in Week three,

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Speaker 1: and then obviously Brian Flores and the Miami Dolphins, because

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Speaker 1: those were some of the more frustrating, disappointing contests for

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Are those three matchups against two disciples of

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Yeah, and you know it's the game counts.

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00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: They tied that game. But you know it was Murray's

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Speaker 1: first time out there, and we know the offense was

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Speaker 1: trying to go a lot of four wide, and you know,

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00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: things change. But yeah, if you want to look at

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Speaker 1: the coaching tree under Bill Belichick, those those two guys

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Speaker 1: in general, I mean you look at Brian Flores and

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Speaker 1: then you know what Belichick's done, and then Matt Patricia

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Speaker 1: as you point out. So that's that's a really good point.

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Speaker 1: And I got to assume they're gonna look at those

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Speaker 1: games because if you want to mirror someone the Lion

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Speaker 1: in the Dolphins, they take a lot with Bill Belichick. Again,

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Speaker 1: different personnel, but when it comes to scheme and philosophy,

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Speaker 1: I think they're all three on the same page. Most

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Speaker 1: of those former assistants turned head coach don't have a

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Speaker 1: lot of success against their mentor. Let's hope though, that

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury follows the footsteps of a Mike Rabel, a former

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Speaker 1: player turned head coach, and now all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: has some success against the Patriots. Yeah. I was trying

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Speaker 1: to find this stat like, what's Belichick's You know, when

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Speaker 1: I say this, what's the Patriots slash? Belichick's record against

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Speaker 1: rookie or second year quarterbacks, and then I was trying

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Speaker 1: to find out how well he did against first or

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Speaker 1: second year quarterbacks. That's that I can't find. But last

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Speaker 1: year when you faced Belichick with the first year or

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Speaker 1: second year quarterback, he holds the opposite quarterback to completion

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Speaker 1: percentage of fifty four percent. Wow, it's not I mean,

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Speaker 1: you want to get into sixty sixty three. That means

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Speaker 1: you're completing passes. But again, this is why he's Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: and I'm here to yell fire in the theater. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we think Kyla Murray's one of the top five dynamic

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Speaker 1: players in the league, and he's still in the top

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Speaker 1: ten in passing. We know where he is rushing. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not a surprise. You're talking about a wealth of

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00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: knowledge and experience, and the guys coach every single position,

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Speaker 1: so you know he's cut his teeth in special teams.

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00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure he can coach offense, but you know, we

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00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: know he's bread and Butter's defense, so he makes it

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Speaker 1: difficult for young quarterbacks and it makes total sense Murray.

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Speaker 1: This will be his twenty seventh game in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and as much film and as much studying as he does,

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Speaker 1: there might be and I might even say might there

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Speaker 1: will be something that either catches him off guard or

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Speaker 1: an alignment that he has never seen before. It might

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Speaker 1: only happen once. It might be at a key point

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Speaker 1: in the game to where he gets off his game

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Speaker 1: just a little bit and all of a sudden, there's

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Speaker 1: a mistake. Now, I don't know whether it's going to

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Speaker 1: turn the tide one way or the other, but there

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Speaker 1: might be something in that, in that bag of tricks,

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Speaker 1: if you will, on the other side of the field,

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Speaker 1: just for this particular week and this particular quarterback. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look what he's done a guns to Shawn

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Speaker 1: Watson this year and Lamar Jackson. I mean, granted, you know,

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Speaker 1: both of those quarterbacks can throw the ball on the field.

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Speaker 1: I think Jackson's more of a dual threat, and they

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Speaker 1: kind of put him in a in a box now

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00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: or you wanted him to throw the ball, but they

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00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: don't have the weapons on the outside, and their running

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00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: backs aren't they're not healthy. But yeah, I mean you

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Speaker 1: look at you look at Deshaun Watson when he did

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Speaker 1: against I mean, teams can throw the ball. But when

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Speaker 1: I mentioned Lamar Jackson, he's been in the league three years.

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Speaker 1: And I mentioned Deshaun Watson he's been in Elaly three

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Speaker 1: or four years. So I'm just talking about two years

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00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: and younger or two years in league and shorter. So

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00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: that's something to look for. But you're right, that's where

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00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: that's where he wins matchups. And we always talk about

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00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's not about the x's and os, it's

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00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: about the jimmies and the joe's, but when you play

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00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: this team, it's really about and os. Well, speaking of matchups,

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00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: you've got a little bit more time on your hands

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Speaker 1: to come up with your key matchups, your three keys

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Speaker 1: for a victory and the X factor and of course

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Speaker 1: some of that we've already kind of discussed here over

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Speaker 1: the past three days. Or reminder, Bird Gang no show

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. I want to wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: it of course, everyone back to work on Friday, because

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00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: Mike direct you, this Cardinals team needs a win. They

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Speaker 1: need to get to that seventh win before they continue

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Speaker 1: the rest of their schedule. Because you've got three against

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Speaker 1: non conference or I should say three out of division

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Speaker 1: games and then three end division games with that Rams

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Speaker 1: contest to begin the month of December. Yeah, seven would

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Speaker 1: mean a lot because we keep talking about getting to

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Speaker 1: nine or ten, and we were really focused on on

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Speaker 1: the remaining schedule of teams you know, ahead of the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals and behind the Cardinals, and right now, you know,

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Speaker 1: you look at the Bears are five and five, and

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Speaker 1: then you look at Minnesota, they're four and six. So

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Speaker 1: once you get to that seven eight plateau, now you're

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00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: you're you're sitting in the driver's seat. You still got

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Speaker 1: to get to nine or ten to me to qualify

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Speaker 1: in the NFC. But this will go a long way.

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Speaker 1: And you know, beating a team on the road and

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Speaker 1: East Coast, yes, it's the AFC. You want to take

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00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: care of business in your conference, in your division, but

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00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: these two these games still count and so they will

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Speaker 1: go a long way to get to seven because it's

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Speaker 1: a matter of time before you get to nine or ten. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's hope that happens this week on Sunday when the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals travel to play in New England and the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: and of course Bill Belichick on that other side, as

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00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: we discussed, the respect certainly is there, but certainly we'd

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Speaker 1: love to see this Cardinals team what it did the

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00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: last time they visited Gillette Stadium. That was come away

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Speaker 1: with a win back in twenty twelve, twenty to eighteen,

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00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: in a game that well, maybe the Cardinals had no

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00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: business in winning, but they were able to come away

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Speaker 1: with the victory. You ready for this, Kevin Cobb, I'll

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00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: played Tom Brady that day. Yeah, a lot of interesting

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00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: things happened on that day. Tom, I mean Kevin Cobb.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he couldn't say healthy, but that

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00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: was a long time ago. I prefer to have Kyle

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Speaker 1: Murray in this game. Absolutely. And on that note, Burg Gang,

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Speaker 1: we will say so long here on this Wednesday edition

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Everyone enjoy their Thanksgiving holiday and Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll be back with you on Friday. As always,

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Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim Amhundro for Mike

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Speaker 1: Jarecki preig Riel Loup. We'll talk to you next time

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