WEBVTT - We’ll See You In The Lobby, Diana 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:02.800 Welcome to good game with Sarah Spain, where there's not 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.720 enough liquor in the world to drown our Diana Tarassi 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:11.799 related sorrows DT. The White Mamba, the Goat done. We 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:15.240 knew it was coming, and we're still not ready. It's Thursday, 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:18.120 February twenty seventh, and on today's show, Big Citrus will 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:20.360 convene to give our reactions to the news of Dinah 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:23.000 Tarassi hanging them up. We'll clone ourselves for a game 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:25.079 of one on many and talk miniature horses and a 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:27.800 passion for pities, plus a circle of l's and our 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.680 crystal ball gets called upon again. It's all coming up 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:40.959 right after this Welcome back slices. Here's what you need 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:45.879 to know today. We'll start with DT. Diana Tarassi, the 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:49.159 WNBA's all time leading scorer and all time leader in 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.640 mad three pointers, has announced her retirement after twenty seasons. 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:56.320 Tarassi told Time Magazine of the decision, quote mentally and physically, 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:58.959 I'm just full. That's probably the best way I can 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.600 describe it. Full, and I'm happy. End quote. Last August, 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.680 Tarassi became the first basketball player to win six Olympic 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.440 gold medals. She led the Phoenix Mercury, which drafted her 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.120 number one in two thousand and four, to WNBA championships 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.000 in two thousand and seven, two thousand and nine, and 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:17.240 twenty fourteen. A five time WNBA scoring champion and fourteen 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.880 time All WNBA selection, Tarassei was League MVP in two 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:24.440 thousand and nine and Finals MVP in nine and twenty fourteen. 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:26.600 A winner at every level, she led. 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.759 The Yukon Huskies to three consecutive national titles from two 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.120 thousand and two to two thousand and four, including an 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.400 undefeated season The Goat. 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.360 There will never be another DT. 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.760 To college hoops, where we've got sixteen ranked teams in 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:43.240 action tonight, including new number one Texas. The Longhorns travel 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:44.600 to Mississippi. 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:45.440 State for an SEC matchup. 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.160 That game tips off at seven thirty pm Eastern. We'll 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.280 link to the full college hoops schedule in the show. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:51.559 Notes to Soccer. 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:54.080 We're recording this episode before the final match of the 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.560 She believes Cup a must win for the US women's 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.320 national team versus Japan, but will be sure to react 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.960 to all things she's and believes is in a future show. 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.440 In the meantime, let's pull out that crystal ball again, 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.640 shall we It's telling us the US wins the game, 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.160 but Japan wins the cup. Wait that can't be right, 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.079 hold on, hold on, this is a magic eight ball. 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:20.400 I grab the wrong thing. We got to take a 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.200 quick break. When we come back, it's time to open 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:23.000 up the mail bag. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:33.320 All right, slices, It's time for a little big citrus 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.200 mail bag time. Y'all have said just so many questions, 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:37.640 so we're gonna try to get through a bunch of 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:39.640 them today and then a whole bunch more in a 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.600 future episode. But before we can even get to all 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.320 of the things that you, Slices asked us, I just 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.079 need a quick check in on everybody on this day 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:48.880 and a Tarassie news. We're gonna have plenty of time 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:53.360 to talk about this, but meiche first reaction. 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:55.519 First reaction is. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.959 I knew it was coming, Like in my bones. I 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:00.120 knew it was gonna happen, as I think we all did. 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.040 But DT is. 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.359 An icon and the game is never going to be 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.840 the same without her. We're gonna see different iterations of 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:08.840 greatness come after. 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.080 Her, but the game will never be the same. 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.280 I love you, DT, I appreciate everything you've done Man 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.720 legend Legend alex Man. 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:18.680 I feel the same way. 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:20.919 I love the detail in the time story about how 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.200 on January first, that's when she kind of locks in 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.560 for the next season, and this year, on January first, 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.160 she just didn't feel it, and I was like, we 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.960 could have gotten some cheerleaders out there, you know, get 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:31.280 her psyched up and ready to go. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:32.080 Yeah. 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.440 I feel like, you know, last year, we were all 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.160 kind of like, oh, no, don't do it, and then 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.000 when they made that big video, we were like, oh, 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:43.240 it's over. Like it's over, but we just needed the 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:44.240 official confirmation. 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:46.720 I'm happy for her if it was time. 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.040 I'm sad for us for not getting to watch her play, 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:52.040 but I'm also sad because I'm not convinced that like 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:55.560 the Sue Birds and Megan Rappinos and others, she will 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:57.360 be visible to us as often. 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.240 Oh DT doesn't like yeah there, So, like. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:03.920 I think she said she's doing the final four show 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.760 at Sue though, which is a victory I want to celebrate. 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.480 I completely agree, but I don't think I could get 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:12.520 by on one Final four show a year. We're gonna 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.160 need DT to figure out a little bit more. Love 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:16.880 of the Spotlight for all of our sake. 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.120 Also just want to mention super happy that Diana got 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.359 a big retirement story in time. But I don't know 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.400 if you guys felt this way. As I was reading through, 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.039 I was like so many men, it just felt like 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.839 it was centered towards a men's basketball audience. And I 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.640 went through an accounted only five sources were quoted, one 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.200 of them being Diana in zero of her WNBA teammates 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.320 or coaches from a twenty year career, and I was like, 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:43.000 that just would not fly for an MNBA retirement story. 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.480 Talking to the NBA commissioner and Lebron James instead of 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:50.320 the WNBA commissioner and Asia Wilson, for example, just kind 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:50.760 of wild. 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.440 That's such a great point, because yeah, it's probably the 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:57.200 author believing there's more heft to hearing from those people 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:58.839 and that's proof of how great she is. 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.440 But that's not how it works in the space. Like, 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:02.080 it's fine if you. 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.039 Want to have those voices as well to prove she 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.440 was so great that went beyond the w and beyond 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.760 women's hoops, but you should also be talking to the 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.120 people who actually played alongside her and to the biggest, 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:12.279 most powerful voices. 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.400 In women's hoops too. That's such a great point. 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.520 Al all right, we'll be spending plenty more time talking 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.760 about Dana Trossi in future shows. But let's get to 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:22.400 some of your questions. Slices from Nora Foudi. My fiance 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.440 asked me this yesterday, and I just have to ask 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.560 all of you how many clones of you could beat 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.840 Phee one v one? This is, of course ANFISA Collier 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.960 winner of the unrivaled one on one. My future bet 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:39.320 for WNBA MVP next season, Alex, how many clones of 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.080 you would be required to beat Fee? 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.279 Okay, I'm going to do a Kapa answer and say one, 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.400 because I don't think that any number could successfully beat her, 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:48.919 Like I could have one hundred of me on the 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:50.520 court still not going to win. And so I'm going 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.760 to say one, because then it's the least embarrassing, right. 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:55.040 And then you could just say I played her one 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.240 on one. End of story. 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.120 Yeah, exactly, bragging rights. No follow up questions? 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:01.680 What about you? 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.239 First of all, Alex, I think you're selling yourself short. 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.800 One hundred clones. One hundred clones is not. 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.120 I think maybe you need like five, you know, just 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.600 just have her going in a circle for me, I 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.640 need me and one other clone. That two man game 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.080 about to go crazy. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:19.479 We haven't talked a lot about what I can do 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.200 on the court. But I can hit it three and 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:22.000 I can make a layup. 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.159 That's all I need, right just space. Okay, there's only 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:27.320 one of her. I mean you need to play some defense. 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:29.760 I mean, you know, I just got to hit that 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.080 first shot. If we're doing it like Unrival did, I 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:33.640 just got to hit that first shot top of the 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.160 key so I can get possession and we're good after that. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.320 Also, I can play two on one defense. I could 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:38.680 play two. 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:40.640 But if you don't want your plan for that fade 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:41.560 away Jay and the paint. 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.960 I'm a fowler. I know I said I wanted to 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.040 foul limit, but not when I'm playing. I'm a fowler, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:48.960 straight up. 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:53.159 Okay. So I'm old, my spine is dust, but I have. 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.680 Pride and I will always have pride. So I'm gonna 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.120 say three of me, period, three of me. She's not 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:00.000 that much taller than me. 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.599 I'll just put my giant arms up and pray. Okay. 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.920 Next question from Pamela Mudway Sarah, where does your love 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.200 for pity mixes come from? I can't get enough of 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:11.960 the photos you posted your pups, so I was wondering 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:16.480 where it all started. Wasn't super intentional? I love almost 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.240 all pups. I'm not gonna name the ones that aren't 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.200 my favorites. I still love them, but I don't want 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.800 to insult anyone's dogs. I'll just say that we knew 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.400 we wanted to rescue our first dog. We went in 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.680 because I had this idea of a half Lab half 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:29.840 German Shepherd mix, because I had met one once years 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.080 before and almost adopted it in an ill advised move 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.080 that wouldn't have worked out because I had no money 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.360 or time. So for like years after that, I had 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:37.600 that mix in my head. So we went to go 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.760 meet a dog called Sunshine at Anti Cruelty in Chicago, 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.600 and my dog, Fletch was one crate above Sunshine. And 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:46.640 I saw Fletch with his little white fur and his 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:48.880 black ears and his little spots, and I was like, 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:53.800 Sunshine's over, We're getting this dog. And Fletch, as it 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:55.880 turns out, probably is a pit mix too, but Fletch 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.200 looks more like a cattle dog and then after we 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.880 adopted Fletch, we became so cessed. We became those weird 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.880 dog people, especially with adopting that we started reaching out 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:06.720 to all the orgs in Chicago to figure out like 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.520 what dogs needed to be fostered and who we could 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.560 help with, which, you know, rescue organizations, and there's so 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.160 many pit based ones that we got our first pit, 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.559 and then from that it was kind of a rap. 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.000 Was like, there's so many of them in the shelters. 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.160 They're so loyal and wonderful, and there's such a bad 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:26.440 stigma around them. So it's pits, pits on pits on pits, 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:27.920 and we love them. 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.280 Y'all don't have dogs, do you? I think I would 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:31.760 have heard about it, alex As Kats. 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.080 Nah, no dogs over here. My mom is actually deathly 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.839 afraid of dogs. She's been bit by seven different ones 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:41.199 in her lifetime. I'll talk too much more about that. Personally, 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.720 I love animals. I've never been able to have a 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:45.960 dog or a cat. I had a fish once my 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.080 cousin killed it. But yeah, no, no dogs. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.560 Okay, I'm not gonna say anything about your mom. I'm 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.520 just gonna say this is like that Sarah Silverman joke. 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.400 If you keep having bad roommates, you're the bad roommate. 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.360 I'm just saying I'm not blaming the dogs. 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:01.920 Seven. 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:05.760 I wasn't there, so I can't Was she running a 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:06.600 dog fighting run? 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.520 Hey, this does not seem like a reasonable number of dogs. 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.520 This is the story I was told from her mouth, 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:13.520 and I'm. 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.240 Okay, I need to get you guys in front of 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.120 some some pities, some little pups. 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:19.600 Okay. 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.800 From Doug Halpert, who sent us about a million questions, 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.480 thank you Doug for your curiosity. Uh, he wrote, does 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:27.960 it bother other female athletes? 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:28.840 Do you want or otherwise? 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:32.400 That Olivia Dunn Livy Dunn is the highest paid collegiate athlete, 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:34.760 even over other gymnasts who are Olympic gold medalists. Is 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.480 she really higher paid than NCAA women basketball players who 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.880 have a larger fan base? Uh, Doug, I did not 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.400 research all of her latest nil deals. I don't know 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.320 if all of them are even public. But Livy Dunn 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.840 makes a ton of money, And this is what I'll say. 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:51.000 There are probably athletes that are frustrated by that. Yes, 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.839 there are probably fans that are frustrated by that. Looking 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.240 around at the other talent in the players that make 0:09:56.320 --> 0:10:00.120 less in ni own money. And also the reality is 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:04.160 is hate the game, don't hate the player. Right when 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:09.640 we understand that there is still more to marketing and 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:13.960 sales and promotion than simply talent, we could step back 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:15.960 a little bit and be mad that for women that 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:19.120 always means pretty much sex cells, and for men there's 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.520 a variety of reasons why you might be compelling and 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:25.880 interesting and promoted. For women, oftentimes it is about sex cells. 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.720 It's better than it used to be, but for now, 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:37.120 I think it's unfair to blame women who are a 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.320 part of a system that they didn't make or control. 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.679 So I do not like when other people blame women 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.360 for participating in a system that is not of their creation. 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:50.160 And also, we have to be a part of changing 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.480 the system, and we have to keep pushing back on 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.559 the bullshit ways that women. 0:10:55.320 --> 0:11:01.040 Are usually viewed and valued. Meche thoughts hardly agree with you. 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.160 I mean, especially to be that young. 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.800 First of all, if I was Livydad, y'all would just 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:11.240 have to be mad at me. Y'all would just have 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.280 to be mad at me, like I don't know a 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.240 lot about her or a lot about her life or 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.440 anything like that. But you know, in a world that 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:22.559 takes every opportunity to shit on young women, on women 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.160 generally speaking, I'm not mad at her for going to 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:25.640 get her back. 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.880 I do agree with you, though, we have. 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.880 To acknowledge when we benefit from things and find ways 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:33.800 to make sure that those things are also accessible to 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.719 other people. So I'm a thousand percent what you want 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.079 at Yeah. 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:38.920 I love that. Alex thoughts, Yeah. 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:40.600 I think it's just important to point out this is 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.960 not new, it's not new criticism, but I think that 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.720 over the years, women have gotten better at supporting other women. 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.240 I'll point to a story absolutely unhinged from the New 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.240 York Times back in twenty twelve going after Lolo Jones 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:55.040 during the London Olympics for having so many sponsorships. 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.640 And this is an Olympian and it's a. 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.200 Similar case though, where like Lolo the best member that 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.600 US Track and Field team. No, but the fact that 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.600 she had to go through all of that and take 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:10.319 the blame for getting sponsorships in a sport where historically 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:13.600 women are not making money in the off season just 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:15.559 outrageous to me. And I think we've come up a 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.079 long way since that thankfully right. 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:19.880 I mean, I think that's the crux of it is 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.240 we will be blamed both for the system we didn't 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.920 create and from benefiting from it. Like you, we can't win, 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.640 so just win as they say that I can. But yeah, 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:31.839 I mean, that's that's so true. And I also think 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:34.760 one thing that has gotten better is women feel more 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.440 empowered in those moments than before. 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.160 When they felt very objectified. 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.200 There's a very fine line between being empowered with yourself 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.440 and being objectified by others. And it does feel like 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:48.560 the content and the style is more evolved than it 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.560 used to be, which is good to see. Another question 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.600 from Doug, why do interviews some athletes take place right 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.560 after they finish a quarter slash period slash race when 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.680 the athletes are still breathing heavy. In my opinion, they 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:03.680 should be left alone for a sec to catch their breath. Alex, 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.080 I guarantee you have a good answer for this base 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.840 of like standing next to a ski run and someone 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.679 still got their skis on when you're trying to get 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:11.200 that story. 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.320 This question made me laugh so much because it brought 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.760 me back to the pen Relays, which is an annual 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:16.720 track and field event. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:18.840 I have competed in it, yes, oh you have. 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.360 Okay, we'll have to discuss that one later. So right, 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.000 it's a relay and it was the four x one 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:26.600 hundred meter relay, and it was my job to help 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.480 corral the athletes post race. And so there was this 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.880 event happening I think it was in twenty seventeen. The 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.640 US men historically horrible at relay handoffs, and there was 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.400 a botched handoff from one to two. There was going 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:41.679 to be a post race interview at the finish line. 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.240 So the person who botched the handoff, by the time 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.920 the race was finishing, was like halfway across the track, 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:48.839 and so I had to go up to this man 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.440 and be like I needed to run to the finish line, 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.400 like I know you just ran, but please run some 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.480 more so that we can get to this broadcast interview 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:56.480 on live television. 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:58.559 It was the worst job. I was like, please never 0:13:58.600 --> 0:13:59.480 make me do that again. 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.040 So I always think it's real funny to see what 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.840 athletes are super out of breath, like four hundred meter runners, 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:06.640 No way you can talk to them for ten minutes, 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.000 like so out of breath, but like a sprinter, like 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.240 they'll be coming through no problem. Yeah, I don't know 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:12.959 why they have to do it, except for I think 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:14.240 the answer is just television. 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:15.760 I think television. 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:19.440 I think Also there's this conversation relatedly a lot about 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:21.520 do reporters need to be in the locker room right 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.080 after a game? Why don't they give them time to 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.760 shower and change and come out. The answer is that 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:30.080 usually that time between the moment of great climax, whether 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:31.880 that was a game winning shot or a race that 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.440 they won or lost, is enough time for them to 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.080 change their answers, to get back to their level head 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.080 to react differently. In those moments right after is when 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.600 you get the most honest and pure responses. It's when 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.680 you get the athlete in that moment still as soon 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.400 as they step out of that moment, it's what did 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.240 my agent tell me to say? What if my sponsor 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:51.760 tell me to say? What's gonna be? 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:56.320 Best? Like, you just don't get the good shit? Yeah, mishagrees. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.200 I do agree, plan and simple, it's better for a 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.520 TV to get the raw emotion and then to the 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:06.200 point about the breathing heavy when you're a person who 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.880 either has not played that sport or doesn't know what 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:10.280 it feels like to be in those shoes. 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:12.200 That's also how you really. 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.920 Understand the effort and the energy and the toll that 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.280 competing in what have you takes on athletes. 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:20.720 And I of course come from a basketball background, so. 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:24.240 I'm like, I feel bad every time somebody's even and 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:28.280 can't breathe. But also I'm so grateful to hear those 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.640 like you're saying first hand accounts of exactly what just 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.440 happened five seconds ago. I do think there might be 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:35.320 time for a compromise, though I've seen this on a 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.960 few especially women's college basketball broadcasts. We're like, you give 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.320 them two minutes, three minutes of analysis right after the game. 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.720 That's enough time for them maybe to media trade themselves, 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.760 get their answers together a little bit. But at the 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.360 same time, they haven't left the arena, they haven't left 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:53.240 that environment, so maybe we can adjust that. But also 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.400 broadcasts have hard time limits, hard outs, that kind of stuff. 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.360 So I don't know. I'm not the genius in the 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.520 room on that, but I do think it's tough. 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.040 It hurts my heart a little bit. 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:05.560 I mean to your point about knowing how hard it is. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.560 Though that did wonders for us understanding unrivaled one v one. 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.600 Those players were cooked and they all said it, and 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.600 we might not realize how tough it was if we 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:14.640 hadn't gotten those I. 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.040 Have a little bit of a controversial opinion too, maybe, 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.280 which is I also like a postgame loser interview. I 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.720 think it can be really easy sometimes to be like 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:24.080 I just want to talk to the winner. 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.280 I don't want to have to bother the loser. I 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:27.680 don't want to have to remind them. 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:29.800 Of what a bad game they had or what bad 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:33.400 game their team had. But there are a lot of 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.600 athletes where I find I respect them even more after 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.360 I see a postgame loser interview because she realized just 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:40.000 how hard they. 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.040 Worked and how much respected they have for their opponent. 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.520 Big one that stands out to me is Jianna sanste 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.240 Combo a year or two ago when they got bounced 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:52.280 the Milwaukee Bucks. He gave a soliloquy about respect for 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.920 the game and should you show up if you're not 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:56.640 going to win every time, and what it means to 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:00.520 be a competitor, and it was like, this guy gets it. 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:03.840 It was really powerful. Okay, easy one from Aaron Raw 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:05.399 I'm still waiting for Slice Merch. 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.320 When can I support you? I have good news. 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.960 We are working with Breaking Tea and I just got 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.520 most of the final designs for a bunch of gear 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:14.760 that we're going to roll out soon. So that is 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.760 coming very soon for you, Aarin. We promise we'll tell 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.280 you as soon as we've got stuff for y'all to rock. 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:21.840 Will be so excited to see it in the wild. 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:25.199 Okay, Phil Miller says, Hi, thanks so much for today's 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:29.000 episode with Representative Trehan. You spoke about letting local communities 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:32.000 and good faith sports councils handle policy question of inclusion 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.160 of transathletes on the youth sports and high school level. 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.160 What are examples of communities. 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:37.720 Organizing bodies that are doing this right in a just 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:41.160 and humane way, Sarah, you said, follow the science. My guess, 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.200 as you're referring to high school, collegiate pro levels, what 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:44.920