1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted, or should I say 2 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: welcome back. We have been gone for a while. I 3 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: am Mike Spofford. He is Wes Hodko. It's from Packers 4 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: dot Com. We are here in our lambeau Field Studios 5 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: and West some time off here from Packers Unscripted, but 6 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: we are back because it is draft week and it's 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: an exciting week for everybody in the NFL. But I 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: think pretty exciting here in Green Bay with the Packers 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: as of now holding the fourteenth overall pick. Yeah, Mike, 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: it's been obviously, uh about two months here. We've stepped 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: away from the TV show. It's the only thing we've 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: really stepped away from. It seems like everything else has 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: been you know, so many developments during that time. But 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: the draft. It's interesting because you get two months basically 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: starting from the end of the scouting combine two months 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: of hype and preparation. But you can always see that 17 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: weekend as it turns back to the concentration of just 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: being focused on Okay, it's actually here. The the energy 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: just amps up a little bit more and now for 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: the Packers, the highest that they've been picking in the 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: last nine years. I just sense that just based on 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: the Insider Inbox, our interactions with readers on social media, 23 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: there is probably more excitement about this week than I 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: can really remember in recent memory. Yeah, I would agree 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: with you, And we've got a lot of time this 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: week to preview the draft and get ready for Thursday night. 27 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: But before we get to that, there's a lot of 28 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: stuff we need to catch up on here because in 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: the time that that we signed off, which was shortly 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: after the combine until now, a lot of changes on 31 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: the Packers roster. And I want to start on the 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball here, because to give the 33 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: quick rundown, Jordy Nelson, Richard Rodgers, and Jeff Janis are 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: no longer Green Bay Packers tight end Jimmy Graham is, 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: as well as a new entry into the backup quarterback competition, 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: and that's Deshaun Kaiser from the Cleveland Brown. I don't 37 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: know where you want to start with all those moves west, 38 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: but I will say this, that's a lot of changes 39 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: for an Aaron Rodgers offense in the off season before 40 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: the draft even gets here. Yeah, and you know you 41 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: would be foolish not to start with Jordy Nelson because 42 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: this is a guy that he has a future Packers 43 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. I think you can make a case 44 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: he's on that mount rushmore of of Packers receivers in 45 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: this long illustrious history of this organization. Uh, he's right 46 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: up there with with the Don Hudson's and Sterling Sharps 47 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: and Donald Drivers. I mean, this is a guy that 48 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: I think when you look at the passing game over 49 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: the last ten years, he's been the face of it. 50 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: And for Aaron Rodgers and him, that was the longest concurrent, 51 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: uh partnership between a quarterback and the receivers. But I 52 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: believe two or three seasons in the entire NFL, guys 53 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: just don't get on runs like that very often. And 54 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: losing him in this offense, that is a big presence 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: in the locker room. It's a big presence on the field. 56 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: The one thing I've talked about a lot though in 57 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: the Insider in box in the month or so that 58 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: this is has passed since the move was made, this 59 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: is a big opportunity. It's an opportunity for Davante Adams 60 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: in Randall cop Jimmy Graham coming into this offense and 61 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: most importantly those young receivers that have kind of been 62 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: waiting in kind of trying to fight through that gridlock 63 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: at the top of the depth chart. This is gonna 64 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: be one of the most intriguing off seasons and in 65 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: training camps that I can remember on the offensive side 66 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: of the ball, because without Jordy Nelson there there's a 67 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: lot of guys that have to stepped their game up. Yeah, 68 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: and I wanted to ask you about Jimmy Graham because 69 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: as Green Bay media members, we met him for the 70 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: first time last week when the Packers opened their off 71 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: season program, began their offseason workouts, and he spoke with 72 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: reporters and he was asked a lot of things, obviously 73 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: about his statistics and how the numbers fell off in 74 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: Seattle versus what he was doing with Drew Brees in 75 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: New Orleans. And I don't know about us, but I 76 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: got a sense of a guy who I don't like 77 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: to say chip on the shoulder because it's it's it's 78 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: an overused phrase, but I got a sense of a 79 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: guy who it's kind of coming to Green Bay out 80 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: to prove a little something that that maybe in Seattle 81 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't quite the right the right fit in terms 82 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: of the offensive style and and what he can really 83 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: bring to the table, and that maybe he feels he 84 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: wasn't utilized to his his fullest extent. And there were 85 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: some injuries there along the way, which which certainly played 86 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: a factor in in Graham's production in Seattle. But this 87 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: is a guy who sounds awfully, awfully excited to be 88 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: in a Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers offense. Yeah. And 89 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: here's the thing, Mike Packers have had some changes. They're 90 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: at tight end of the last three or four seasons. 91 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham I think fits with what this locker room 92 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: is about. He fits what they're about on the field. 93 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: You know, they've tried different things, but I think at 94 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: the end of the day, this Mike McCarthy offense functions 95 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: the best when it has a hybrid type tight end 96 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: uh available in it. I think you saw that two 97 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: years ago with Jared Cook. To me, it seems like 98 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: Graham probably is a little bit more in terms of personality, 99 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: a lot like Cook in that person you know, fine personality, 100 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: but likes to likes to just do things quietly. Um, 101 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: and you know they obviously Martella is Benny can make 102 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: everything out of that. But the thing I liked about 103 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: Cook two years ago is that he was a guy 104 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: that just kind of went about his business in over 105 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: the course of the year. You could see him mesh 106 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: with that offense with Aaron Rodgers. We're only going off 107 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: the back of one one interview here with Jimmy Graham, 108 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: but I think he fits with that. And then yeah, 109 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: to your second point, there is a big chip on 110 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: the shoulder there because he was asked the question are 111 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: you still the same Jimmy Graham from five years ago? 112 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: And I think you could kind of see that that's 113 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: something that is sort of weighing on him a little bit. 114 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: He believes he is, He believes he still runs that 115 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: same forty time. He wants a chance to prove it, 116 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: and he feels like this this offense is the best 117 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: caveat best best avenue conduit towards making that happen. And 118 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: I want to get to uh to Also, Deshaun Kaiser 119 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: acquired in a trade from the Cleveland Browns for cornerbacked 120 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: Marius Randall. Now you've got Deshaun Kaiser, Brett Honley, Joe 121 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 1: Callahan as the the backup quarterbacks on your roster behind 122 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Mike McCarthy said it um at the scouting combine. 123 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, he wants more competition for the 124 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: backup spot behind Aaron Rodgers. O see, things did not 125 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: go as planned when Brett Humley had to start as 126 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: many games as he did in The Packers really liked 127 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: to Shaun Kaiser when he was coming out of Notre Dame. 128 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: There was a chance that the Packers were going to 129 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: draft him last year. That didn't work out. But now 130 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: he's in Green Bay. This is a really intriguing change 131 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: to the quarterback room. Yeah, and I've said this before too. 132 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: With Kaiser, you hope that he can just wash his 133 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: memory bank clean of everything that happened last year. I 134 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: have not had time to do this. I obviously don't 135 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: have a stats or alias kind of bureau that can 136 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: help me on these things. But trying to remember the 137 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: last time a quarterback that was twenty one years old 138 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: started fifteen games in the league for a team that, 139 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: mind you, I think it's not even arguably was the 140 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: worst team in the NFL last year. Not ideal circumstances 141 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: for a young guy to walk in on and on 142 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: top of that, as we've talked about, he played the 143 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: majority of that rookie season without his number one wide 144 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: receiver in Josh Gordon, and without his Hall of Fame 145 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: left tackle and Joe Thomas for different reasons, but he 146 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: was without those guys, and that was a team that, 147 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: even with those guys, was going to struggle to content 148 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 1: And he looked different when Gordon was on the field 149 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: that final month of the season. So he's a great prospect. 150 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: Mike six ft four, two pounds. He has everything you 151 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: look for in a quarterback to develop into me. In 152 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: my opinion, this is the best summer battle they're going 153 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: to have in ten years, trying to figure out exactly 154 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's gonna be Huny, whether it can 155 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: be Kaiser. Joe Callahan still involved in that conversation. There's 156 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: a lot of depth at that position. That's exactly what 157 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy wanted go into this offseason. Yeah, well, I 158 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: mentioned the trader to Marius Randall. That was one of 159 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: the changes on the defensive side. We'll get to more 160 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: of those on that side of the ball back with 161 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: more on Packers unscripted right after this. Welcome back to 162 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: Packers unscripted. Mike Spofford in this chair, were Hodkoitz in 163 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: that one in West On the defensive side of the ball, 164 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: here for the Packers, talking roster changes, Damarius Randall traded 165 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: to the Browns. Morgan Burnett signs a free agent contract 166 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Tremont Williams back in the fold. 167 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: He resigns after three years away with different teams, and 168 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: then also Devon House resigned for another year. He had 169 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: been with the Packers on a one year contract a 170 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: year ago. But probably the biggest change is the addition 171 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: of Mohammed Wilkerson on the defensive line. You're talking about 172 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: adding a guy, he's got a couple of double digit 173 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: sack seasons to his credit from his time with the 174 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: New York Jets, a former first round draft pick, and 175 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: uh joining a group that already has the likes of 176 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: Mike Daniels, Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry, perhaps an upcoming Montrevius Adams. 177 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: To me, this move signaled, if anything, it's signaled that 178 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: the foundation of a Mike Petton defense is going to 179 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: be the guys up front. That's why they made this move. Absolutely, 180 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: Mike and in the last segment, we talked about Jimmy 181 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: Graham having a chip on his shoulder. Mohammed Wilkerson has 182 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: a chip on his shoulder, probably the size of new 183 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: jersey from the Green Bay Right now, Packers are getting 184 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: a motivated player. There's a very motive motivated mo when 185 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: you look at the fact that this is a guy 186 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: that was twice an All Pro in this league, twice 187 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: had over ten and a half sacks at the defensive 188 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: tackle position. I mean, it's not like he was this 189 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: Michael Strahan defensive end where he's just constantly coming off 190 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: the edge. He provides you a really stable presence inside 191 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: um And to me, I thought that this signing really indicated, 192 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: as you just pointed out, where Mike Petton wants this 193 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: defense to go. Because he has Kenny Clark coming off 194 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: a career year, he has Mike Daniels coming off of 195 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl. The Packers very easily and if there 196 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: was any position on either side of the ball where 197 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: they could have just stood pat and been fine, it 198 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: looks like it was probably the defensive line. Especially with 199 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: Montrevius Adams coming back after being the third round pick 200 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: last year, they weren't having that Mohammed Wilkerson is here, 201 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: and if you look at his track record, Mike, he plays. 202 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: Whatever you want to make out of all the off 203 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: the field issues that came up in New York, this 204 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: guy played over of his defensive snaps in four or 205 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: five of his six seven seasons that he was in 206 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: New York. He is a guy that is going to 207 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: be a constant presence. And if you go back and 208 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: look at that prototype for the Packers signing free agents, 209 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: he meets it in the fact that he's incredibly durable. Yeah, 210 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: and when you talk when you think about what what 211 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy has said in the past, and he's reiterated 212 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: it since the signing of Wilkerson, it's about wanting to 213 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: have a rotation of those defensive linemen. You don't want 214 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: those big guys having to play eight hundred snaps a year. 215 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: You want to have them more in the six seven 216 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: hundred snap range. Be able to rotate them. Obviously, you know, 217 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: we know how important it is to have fairly fresh 218 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: legs in the fourth quarter, try to close out games. 219 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: All of that. That's what I see the Packers building 220 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: here upfront. With the addition of Wilkerson to two guys 221 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: in in Mike Daniels and Kenny Clark, who I thought 222 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: were becoming, you know, maybe one of the top defensive 223 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman tandems in the league. Then you're throwing 224 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: a guy like Wilkerson into that mix where where you 225 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: don't have to have your top two guys on the 226 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: field every single snap. I think that's gonna pay some 227 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: big dividends. What's the shortest distance of the quarterback Michael 228 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: right in the middle. You look at what Los Angeles 229 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: did this offseason bringing ensue, matching him now with Aaron Donald. 230 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, this is something and you need to have 231 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: pass rushers, you need to have adge rushers, you need 232 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: to have elephants, no doubt, won't debate that, but this 233 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: is the type of move that I think is signaling 234 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: where the league is headed and why you need to 235 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: have deep rotations inside. All right, well, what are your 236 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: thoughts on where the Packers are with their secondary right now? 237 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, Mary's Randall gone, Morgan Burnett gone, Tremont Williams, 238 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: and Devon House to veteran cornerbacks who will be in 239 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: that room with a lot of young guys around them. 240 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: Kevin King, Quentin Rollins, Lenzy Pipkins, all these guys. Where 241 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: do you think it stands right now? Obviously, I think 242 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: the Packers are still going to use the draft to 243 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: work on the future of that position. But you've got 244 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: two veteran guys now that provide that they can stay healthy, 245 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: they can they can help bridge the gap here between 246 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: now and where the Packers secondary will be down the road. 247 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 1: This is the thing that stands out to me, Mike, 248 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: when I look at this. They lost Morgan Burnett. They 249 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: got to find a way to replace him to Murus Randall. 250 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: For all the things that happened earlier in the season, 251 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone would question his playmaking ability. He 252 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: played well down the stretch in the slot they need 253 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: to replace him. Those are two big spots, those start 254 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: nickel position. It's becoming really important in this league. Who's 255 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: going to fill that. That's what I want to find 256 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: out this offseason. But fourteen defensive backs right now on 257 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: the roster have NFL experience. They have guys that have 258 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: been there, that have done that. Truman Williams, I look 259 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: at him as a almost like a tranquility kind of factor, 260 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: a Catharsis for this defense. A guy that just has 261 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: has that kind of mentality, that leadership value that people 262 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: gravitate towards. I think he's going to be really positive 263 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: for them. And he also said he's here to play. 264 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: The Packers wouldn't have signed him if he couldn't play. 265 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: Thirty five years old, he still has that spring nous 266 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: in his legs. He still can make days, and I'm 267 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: interested to see what he can do now that he's 268 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: paired up again with the Packers and also Mike Petton, 269 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: who he played for in the with the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, 270 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: that was my favorite thing about what Williams said when 271 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: he met with the media last week at the start 272 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: of the offseason program. You know, talk about all the 273 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: all the reasons that it made sense for the Packers 274 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: to bring him back. He's been in a pettent defense. 275 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: He's he knows everything about what it means to be 276 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: a Green Bay Packer. He was here for nine years 277 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: before he left. He Uh, he's a veteran guy who's 278 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: who knows the ropes. He's been in postseason games, he's 279 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: been in big time games, all of that. But the 280 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: biggest reason he's here is because he can still play 281 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: absolutely and he gives him a lot of versatility to 282 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: all right with that, we'll go to a break back 283 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: with more on Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back 284 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: to pack Years Unscripted Mike Spofford alongside West, Hotkowitz and West. 285 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: If there's another big piece of news we need to 286 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: catch up on here before we get to more of 287 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: our draft preview shows later in the week, it's that 288 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: the two thousand eighteen schedule was announced late last week. 289 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: Always an exciting day, wondering, you know, we we always 290 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: know the who, you don't know the when with all 291 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: of these matchups. What was your first impression when you 292 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: saw the schedule? You know, it's funny because it is 293 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: it's almost like an engagement. You know, you're getting married now. 294 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: You just gotta figure out which day it's gonna be. Uh, 295 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you have to, myke, you gotta look at 296 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: that schedule. The two things that stand out it is 297 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: really cool they get to open the season against the Bears. 298 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: You wrote a tremendous column going into all of that. 299 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: To me, though, that middle stretch of the season, that 300 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen days will be traveling over ten thousand miles 301 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: a road trip out to l A. Then they got 302 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: to go across the country to New England, come back over, 303 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: go to Seattle in a short week, and then they 304 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: finished with another prime time matchup against the Minnesota Vikings 305 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: in a month long stretch that's going to test them. 306 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy constantly preaches the importance of November and playing 307 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: your best football in November. They have a great chance 308 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: to get off to a fast start with three or 309 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: four at home. That middle, that middle of the season 310 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: stretch is going to be something that really is defining 311 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: though when you look at how this how this season 312 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: is going to play out. Yeah, and when you look 313 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: at that, it puts an even greater premium. As you 314 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: just mentioned on taking advantage of the way the early 315 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: season schedule sets up. Personally, as a as a football fan, 316 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not in favor of the way this starts 317 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: for the Packers with Bears and Vikings. And what I 318 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: mean by that is having two division games. You only 319 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: have six of them all season long, and they have 320 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: two of them right off the bat in the first 321 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: two weeks. I'm not crazy about that. But if you 322 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: look at it from the Packers perspective, you get both 323 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: of those at home, you do right out of the gate. 324 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: You have to take advantage of that. That is your 325 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: opportunity to win those first two home games against Chicago 326 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: and Minnesota to year division rivals and to say, okay, 327 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: here we are, come and get us. We're gonna be 328 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: in this thing from start to finish. That's what the 329 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: Packers have to say in September. It's such a great 330 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: point you make, because I'm so far looking at this 331 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: at all the really terrible like starts they've had in 332 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: terms of having to go to Jacksonville and then opening 333 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: these stadiums in Atlanta and Minnesota. So I if they 334 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: get too at home, I just look at that naturally 335 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: as a positive. But you bring out a good point 336 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: in that starting against the NFC North, that is going 337 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: to be difficult and it is going to be a 338 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: tough stretch in terms of you have new coaches in 339 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: both of those spots. Conversely, the Packers have two new 340 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: coordinators as well. But that ultimately is what you know 341 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: kind of is goes into how this season plays out, 342 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: is how you're perform in your division. It's almost like 343 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: starting if you were a college football team starting with 344 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: two Big ten games right off the bad too. You're 345 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: not You're not always who you are until the end 346 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: of the season, so they'll just have to shift into 347 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: a faster gear early and kind of hope for the best. Yeah. 348 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: I kind of like the way December sets up, And 349 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: I want to get back to talking about that November 350 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: stretch you mentioned, but I like the way December set 351 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: up here for a few different reasons. One is that 352 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: you have three home games in December and they're all 353 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: against Dome teams Arizona, Atlanta, and Detroit. Now, Detroit is 354 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: used to the cold weather because they have to play 355 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: plenty of late season games in Chicago and Green Bay 356 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: over the years. But to get teams like Arizona and 357 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: Atlanta coming to your place in December again another thing 358 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: you have to take advantage of. And the other thing 359 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: I like about December is that second Bears game is 360 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: in December. I had looked this up for the for 361 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: the column I wrote last week when the schedule was announced. 362 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: There was a stretch of sixteen consecutive years through two 363 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: thousand thirteen where either in Green Bay or Chicago, the 364 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: Packers and Bears played a December game. Then that stretch 365 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: ended with the great you know, Roger stacab fourth and 366 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: eight from the forty eight. Then you get away from 367 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: it for a couple of years. Then two thousand sixteen, 368 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: it's another December game. The Packers are trying to do 369 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: that run the table thing, and Jordy Nelson sixty yards 370 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: down the middle sets up the game winning kick and 371 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: all of that. So I just I like the fact 372 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: that Packers Bears is going to be in December again, 373 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: no matter where the teams are in the standings or 374 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: however that shakes out. I just like the fact that 375 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: those two teams are going to be out in the 376 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: cold planing. And I don't even know if there was 377 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: any deliberate action towards, you know, in terms of the 378 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: NFL setting that up. Obviously, Mark Murphy, the Packers president CEO, 379 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: they had requested to host the Bears for their hundredth season, 380 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: to open it that way, but to have the back 381 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: end of that have that matchup with the Bears, I 382 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: think is very fitting. Well, those road trips you talked 383 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: about before are definitely worth discussing. We'll get to uh 384 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: those a little bit more after the breakback with more 385 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: on Packers unscripted. Right after this welcome back to Packers Unscripted. 386 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: Mike Spofford here, West, Hodkowitz all the way over there West. 387 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: A couple of final thoughts on the schedule. You did 388 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: the math talk about those road trips. What did you 389 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: come up with that in that November stretch ten thousand, 390 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: five hundred five d sixty four round trip miles. Yeah, 391 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, and every schedule is going to 392 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: have it's it's set of challenges. And the way this 393 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: one sets up for the Packers, there are some trade 394 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: offs in there because right before you start, you know, 395 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: this stretch of road trips with the trip to l A, 396 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: the Packers have their bye week, so you've got sort 397 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: of that rest and recuperation a little bit, hopefully get 398 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: guys healthy, all that kind of stuff before you start 399 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: on these long road trips. Then you have that short 400 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: week going to Seattle for a Thursday night game. But 401 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: then that gives you a little bit of the extra 402 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: break that many bye week the players talk about before 403 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: you have that big road game in Minnesota, big NFC 404 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: North game there in late November. So a lot of 405 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: trade offs here and there but that's gonna be one 406 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: heck of a stretch of Yeah, as you said, that's 407 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: a great way to put it. There are trade offs 408 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: because you do get the Monday night game in. You 409 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: don't have a short week because you can go into 410 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: the bye week after that, so that helps. Yeah, and 411 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: you do at least get to play at home against 412 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins before you travel Seattle as opposed to 413 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: having to travel somewhere and then have the short weekend 414 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: going out there. So there are silver linings to it. 415 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: But whatever way you slice at Mike eighteen days in 416 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: the quality of those opponents, I mean the l A Rams, 417 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: they're different ball club now and you always know what 418 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: you're getting in the Patriots with Bill Belichick, uh in Seattle, 419 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: they've had some absolute wars with them over the years. 420 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: It's a rough and ready time for the Packers. But 421 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: also the positive side of that is with as you mentioned, 422 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: how the December slate lines up, if you can come 423 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: up victorious out of that, if you can have a 424 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: positive over record in those series, that's really going to 425 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: propel you towards that final stretch. Yeah, I mean the Packers, 426 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: but it's it sets up to where if you're shifting 427 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: gears and really starting to play your best football in 428 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: November and then you gu upe for a stretch run 429 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: in December, that's just the way you draw it up. 430 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean having all these primetime road games. 431 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean you're on the road in primetime and Fox 432 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: Spurrow in Seattle and then in Minnesota in a in 433 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: a stretch of a month. Basically, it doesn't get much 434 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: more difficult than that. But if the Packers are in 435 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: contention heading into December, with the way that sets up 436 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: I talked about last segment, I like green based chances 437 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: to be right in this thing. Yeah, absolutely, And the 438 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: big thing is here, Mike, Michael Knowlton Spofford will be 439 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: home for Thanksgiving, he'll be home for Christmas, and he'll 440 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: be home for New Year's the Packers not having to 441 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: play in a Thanksgiving game for the first time and 442 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: in three years since two thousand six. Um, so they 443 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: get that side of it. So that's part of the 444 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: schedule works out. There's just always a give and take. 445 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: And you read any story across the country, Mike, every 446 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: beat writer's writing about, well, this part is really terrible, 447 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: and this part is really great. You just hope that 448 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: there isn't a lot of terrible the Packers overall. I 449 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: think it ends up being a pretty decent schedule and 450 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: that'll be the first and last time my middle name 451 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: is much on the show. But with that, we're going 452 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: to sign off on Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow 453 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: all of our coverage of the team on Packers dot 454 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: com on Twitter. He's at west hot I'm at Mike 455 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: Spofford at Packers for the team account. Thanks for tuning in, everybody. 456 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. H m hmm.