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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast spend all of their money

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Speaker 1: to buy being Cooley. Welcome back to another edition of

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Jnsas

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Speaker 1: and I am joined in a room that's filled with heroes.

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys?

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Speaker 1: Hey Dan? Whoa whoa? Welcome back, Mark, Mark's back, Mark's back.

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Speaker 1: Thank you right, thank you, good to be back, good

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Speaker 1: to see again. You look I wouldn't say well rested.

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Speaker 1: You look like, you know, Mark, not well arrested. Do

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Speaker 1: you would you say you're you're well arrested after your vacation. No,

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Speaker 1: A definitive no. We um. I had people over this

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Speaker 1: weekend and Mark you had your staycation week and I

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Speaker 1: knew it was going to be close. I said, oh man,

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Speaker 1: of fun leading into the weekend. Sure enough, clock ran out.

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Speaker 1: We only got a Mark cameo this weekend. Well the

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Speaker 1: Simone and I had some anniversary proceedings to uh To

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Speaker 1: I would not say I would save all the vacations

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Speaker 1: that I've ever taken in my entire life. This was

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Speaker 1: by far the least productive and least enjoyable week I've

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Speaker 1: ever spent away from a workplace. Least enjoyable. That's surprising.

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Speaker 1: Just very mundane and poorly spent from from a little

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Speaker 1: something energy around you. I mean there were a couple

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Speaker 1: of high points, but I would say largely a massive failure. Wow. Uh, Well,

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Speaker 1: it was good to see you. I'm glad you're able

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Speaker 1: the ends. Oh yeah, A good time, A good time,

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Speaker 1: played some corn watched your three year old son rope

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Speaker 1: nice stroke. We got in the now traditional last game

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Speaker 1: But I only went like fifteen and one. What bears

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Speaker 1: you want to say? You want to finish the you

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Speaker 1: want to finish the night with the look. You guys

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Speaker 1: to me waiting to lose a game of cornhole. That's great,

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Speaker 1: tough performance by John Gonzalez. Maybe we'll get that next

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Speaker 1: time he's on the show. There was no trash talking

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Speaker 1: this time. None. Um. Yeah, so thanks for coming over

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Speaker 1: today's show. Uh, as we moved to two a week's

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Speaker 1: UM for most of the next two months or so.

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Speaker 1: UH begins with some talk about a veteran wide receiver

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Speaker 1: talk about what with the NBA Finals set to kick

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Speaker 1: Lindsay Fulton's Cleveland Cavaliers meeting for the fourth consecutive year.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations Lins, Thanks, there wasn't actually if you track Lindsay

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. Uh. And this is the the benefit and

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Speaker 1: Lebron is here. And sure enough that was enough for

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Speaker 1: What am I doing with my adulthood? Well, it's an

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Speaker 1: excellent que I have the Brandon Marshall got a job.

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Speaker 1: of veteran, although decorated career Greg Star, He's a star

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Speaker 1: don't do it. That zip up really brings out your

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Speaker 1: Mind me? I need to ask you about something after

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Speaker 1: the show. It's very important. This is from Dan to West.

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Speaker 1: open a window for a potential trade down the line

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Speaker 1: if a team is needy in practice too, for what

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Speaker 1: it's worth, But I guess that's not a new thing. Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess they're one of the few teams with if

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Speaker 1: you look at all the QB rosters, they have three

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Speaker 1: guys you could call a starter if the Jets certainly

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Speaker 1: feel the way about the rookie too. That if someone

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Speaker 1: loses a quarterback and you want to Sam Bradford to

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Speaker 1: the Vikings like early September, type trade Bridgewaters on that

434
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Speaker 1: short list, and it doesn't help this little hype around him. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the fact that Sam Bradford leap frogged him

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Speaker 1: on a depth chart last year, the Vikings made no

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Speaker 1: attempt to resign and he signed one of the worst

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Speaker 1: contracts in the league, and the reports that his knee

439
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Speaker 1: who was still on the fritz. I agree with Dan,

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Speaker 1: it's notable that he can good in practice. I've been

441
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Speaker 1: a skeptic because it's such a serious knee injury. I

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00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: want to know what happens when the hitting starts. But

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00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 1: it's good news that he looks good now. I mean

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00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: the Vikings called basically their coach says that Sam Bradford

445
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: had a degenerative knee scenario. And he goes and signs

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Speaker 1: a massive contract with the Cardinals. So it's like, if

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Speaker 1: you're desperate, you're gonna make desperate moves. We'll see to

448
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: what how it plays out. Because last year McCown barely played.

449
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you threw a preseason pass,

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Speaker 1: and if he did, it was less than five or so. Uh,

451
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: and that could lead to Bridgewater getting a lot of

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Speaker 1: work in training camp and and in in preseason. So

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Speaker 1: showcase a little showcase. We'll see all it plays out.

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Speaker 1: Here's somebody who's looking at showcase himself. Still, Adrian Peterson,

455
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Speaker 1: the future Hall of Fame running back, still doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a job market very quiet. Here a pin drop on

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Speaker 1: this market. Mark, that's right. So he's doing the rounds,

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Speaker 1: he's doing the media rounds and chemistry between YouTube back exactly,

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Speaker 1: it's it's here and it better than ever. Uh. Peterson

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Speaker 1: is selling himself so he goes on ESPN's NFL Live

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Speaker 1: and mentions that the Texans are on his radar as

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Speaker 1: a landing spot. Here's what Peterson had to say. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: I've mentioned Houston a couple of times. This seems you know,

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Speaker 1: this is not kind of sad. And also it seems

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Speaker 1: kind of sad. I've mentioned Houston a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Green Bay wouldn't be a bad look

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Speaker 1: as well. Carolina. It just says Carolina, no other explanation.

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Speaker 1: There's some options out there, you know, Miami down there

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles that would be a nice look too.

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Speaker 1: With Todd Gurley, this is a sad quote to me.

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Speaker 1: It's it doesn't really the best running back in my

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Speaker 1: opinion of the twenty one century. And uh, that's what

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Speaker 1: you're that's what you're hearing right now. It's tough to

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Speaker 1: get old. And if you're if you're the Dolphins, you

475
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Speaker 1: must pair him as not even the starter alongside Frank Gore,

476
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Speaker 1: behind Kenyan Drake. Well, of course you would like It's

477
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Speaker 1: like he's pleading with you to believe him, and I

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Speaker 1: have offers. Wait this time. It's tough though, because you're right,

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Speaker 1: like I agree, it is kind of said, but then again,

480
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Speaker 1: like we love that players love football. He clearly just

481
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: loves football. It's like the thing that he loves the

482
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: most in the world, and he wants to keep doing it.

483
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Speaker 1: Like it's kind of shame. Who's shaming him, None shaving him,

484
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Speaker 1: just saying there's a bit of a desperation to those

485
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Speaker 1: that those quotes, and it's it's sad because a guy

486
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Speaker 1: that's been as great as he's been, it just shows

487
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Speaker 1: you what it feels like. He will get a call

488
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Speaker 1: when someone gets hurt in camp, like I wouldn't mind

489
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Speaker 1: that guy, or Texas, I wouldn't mind cream Bay in

490
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: a little reverse Brett Farve scenario where if you can

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Speaker 1: get him into shape to play the Vikings, you know,

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Speaker 1: early in the season and do one of his one

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Speaker 1: yard acts like he did last year twice, why not

494
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Speaker 1: I feel I don't know. I feel like the Packers like,

495
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: don't bring in a progress stopping when you've got promising

496
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Speaker 1: young backs. But the Texans have Lamar Miller coming on

497
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Speaker 1: three point seven yards per carry and Dante Foreman tour

498
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Speaker 1: as achilles. I still don't think there's ever been a

499
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Speaker 1: successful return from an achilles at running back. Uh. In

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Speaker 1: other news, in guys that have their s together news,

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Speaker 1: Laurent de Verne Tardiff Larry. How about that? Larry? Do

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00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: people call Larry Larry d T? He is the starting

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Speaker 1: right guard for the Chiefs. Uh A well paid one

504
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: at that. Uh. And he graduated Tuesday from McGill University

505
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,719
Speaker 1: in Montreal, where he earned his medical doctor at how

506
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Speaker 1: about that? He tweeted it out wearing a photo of

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Speaker 1: wearing a lab coat with his number seventy six in

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Speaker 1: his name, doctor DT the full name, but I don't

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Speaker 1: want to pronounce it again on the back. And uh,

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Speaker 1: this is something that had been in the in the

511
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Speaker 1: works for a while. He was a mid round draft

512
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Speaker 1: pick a few years ago. The Chiefs knew that he

513
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Speaker 1: was looking down to finish out his education and get

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Speaker 1: the doctorate, and now he does. And my goodness, Uh, Mark,

515
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Speaker 1: what does it say about us when Dr LT is

516
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: dominating life in such a manner? Again? Very lazy us

517
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: as a group compared to him. I just think, like

518
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: the whole like growing up, whenever they characterized football like

519
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: the linemen were just viewed across the board without exceptions,

520
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: just sort of raging blockheads. And there are a few,

521
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Speaker 1: But in the NFL, I just think that does not

522
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: hold water anymore. There's something. They have to manage their

523
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: bodies more than any other player to keep weight up.

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Speaker 1: They have to they I I just think that this

525
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Speaker 1: guy is an example of enough with the lughead blockhead scenario,

526
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: whatever you wanna call it. They are every year the

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00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: highest scoring on the Wonder. They are smart players, the

528
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: offensive smart players are the best at the Wonder. Like,

529
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Speaker 1: this guy might be the most interesting player in the NFL.

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00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: Twice when he was growing up, his family went on

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Speaker 1: year long sailing trips and he was there with his dad,

532
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: like steering the sailboat. Signed me up for that? He

533
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: learned He learned English while going through medical school and

534
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: playing football in college. That's pretty that's pretty hard. Signed

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Speaker 1: a five year, forty one million dollar contract a couple

536
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: of years ago, So he's out there. He's a catch, ladies.

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00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: What kind of wait, what kind of doctor do I think?

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Speaker 1: He has a girlfriend whom he met while going through

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00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: UH school. She helped him learn you gotta mention where

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00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: you gotta mention the great Miguel, where my where my

541
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: brother went to undergraduate and UH up in Montreal, at

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Speaker 1: which I attended a few very memorable nights in my life,

543
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Speaker 1: including some raves as like a seventeen I believe it's

544
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Speaker 1: known as the Harvard of Canada McGill University, Guy Lane

545
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Speaker 1: and Francois. I can't wait to go to Montreal some day, honey,

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Speaker 1: us girlfriend, honey, are you listening? Lock it down, because

547
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: you know he's gonna he's gonna be one of those

548
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: offensive lineman that loses like a hundred pounds once he's

549
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: been playing. Her name is Florence. She was a waitress

550
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: at the place he used to go to when he

551
00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: skipped class to learn English. Wow, forget about the Royal adding,

552
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: I want to see L. D. T. And like the

553
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: Chiefs are like the deep the storyline here in this guy.

554
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Montreal's got some some banging bagel and

555
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: sandwich places too, So wow, Montreal is great too. What

556
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: the you know? Just saying a great restaurant. In the

557
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: seventies and eighties, all the Major League Baseball players used

558
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: to say that was their favorite road trip of the year,

559
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: going to Montreal bringing back the Expos. Alright, alright, uh

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Speaker 1: finally in the news, Uh, Mark, you might be aware

561
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: of brown safety. To Marius Randall, I say you fan

562
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: of him as a player? Yeah, I think he's a

563
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: It's a nice signing for the Browns. Brought him over

564
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: from Green Bay. Okay, okay, and uh, I guess what

565
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: he's in trouble. Potentially he needs a new contract at

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Speaker 1: this point. It seems like he needs LDTs contract would

567
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: help him here because he tweeted out this was on

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Speaker 1: UM So this was after the Calves uh beat in

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Speaker 1: the Celtics advance of the NBA Finals. If the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Cavaliers win the NBA Finals, I'll buy everyone who retweets

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Speaker 1: this a jersey. And as of the recording of this podcast,

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Speaker 1: that had surged over three hundred thousand retweets. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get out my little work calculator here. We'll say

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Speaker 1: it will be the UM not the official official jerseys,

575
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Speaker 1: but the replicas, which run typically with tax about fifty

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Speaker 1: five bucks. I think. So we're talking about, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: you should have to do the real jerseys. What is

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Speaker 1: this number? I can't I don't know what it means.

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Speaker 1: Is that's is that one over right now? One and

580
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Speaker 1: a half million jerseys? I mean that is when I

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Speaker 1: have million dollars dollars excuse me, want and a half

582
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Speaker 1: million dollars right now? Because he didn't even cap it.

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Speaker 1: It could go even higher. Some estimates have it at

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Speaker 1: one point over ten million, and now over twenty million.

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Speaker 1: Well they're see there, Greek right. Mean they're pumping the

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Speaker 1: numbers because they're saying, Oh, he's gonna buy the official

587
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: game jersey. I'm sure that's what they're doing. Don't get cute.

588
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: He would get the replica jerseys, I would think, not

589
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: the official jerseys. Big difference. Should he be allowed to

590
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: remove sports writers from the retweets? Yeah? Yeah, that feels

591
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: a little bit precious that we've all these sports writers

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00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: retweet like the move. I don't know who did or

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Speaker 1: who didn't. I like the move that plugged in with

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Speaker 1: the Browns reporters. Mark. He is trolling Brown's fans. He

595
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: gets to Cleveland and it's kind of an o I.

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00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: I went through his feed quickly and realized he's a

597
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: big time Warriors fan, and this is his way of saying,

598
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: I may wear a Browns jersey, but your team, the Calves,

599
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: have no chance. He chumps. He called Lebron, why would

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00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: you do that, like, why would you do that? Somehow

601
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: puts the huge Jackson into the lake. Thing is like

602
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: the less severe scenario going on, I would say, Lindsay,

603
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: I would say that that would be probably matic, seeing

604
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: is King James owns a city. But King James is

605
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: gonna be moving in about a month and a half anyway,

606
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: So I disagree completely, But we'll talk about that on

607
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: the Lebron James podcast. Oh so, it's really easy for

608
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: Damarius Randall to call Lebron James that when he's seen

609
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: the other eleven players on the roster. M interesting, Calves

610
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: aren't winning that series. Let's be read. I would say

611
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: Warriors in five, but I'm going to sweet for your team, Lindsay,

612
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: Calves and seven that would sweep it up. For some reason,

613
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Speaker 1: I have more hope this year than I did last year.

614
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: And the team is so much worse this year than

615
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: it was terrible. It's gonna be tough. It could be

616
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: a tough watch. All right, that's what's happening in the news.

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Speaker 1: All right, Yes, Calves Warriors four straight years. This has

618
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: never happened in North American sports, professional sports. Right, Let's

619
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: this is unprecedented. The territory I have seen several tweets

620
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: verifying that this has never happened. Four straight matchups of

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Speaker 1: the same two teams. So with that in mind, let's

622
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Speaker 1: talk about the NFL. What has been Greg ros thought,

623
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Speaker 1: what has been the best NFL rivalry of this century

624
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,239
Speaker 1: so far? Don't say Falcon Saints. No, that's that's one

625
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: of my, if not my favorite, But I wouldn't say

626
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: that was the best one on balance this century. I

627
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: guess i'd go Steelers Ravens. You know, Colts Patriots is

628
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: probably right. There didn't last quite as long, but it

629
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: was big though it was a big Pots Patriots I

630
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: think was the most meaningful one I would say. I'd

631
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: say most people would answer Steelers Ravens. The reason I

632
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: would I lean Steelers Ravens. I think they actually had

633
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: better games. There was a little more actual hatred, and

634
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: they meant a lot too, So Patriots games weren't always

635
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: like the class. How many times did the Steelers and

636
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: Ravens meet in the a f C title game? The

637
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: stakes just felt the stakes felt higher for me with

638
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 1: Patriots called it, and it was also Brady Verse Manning.

639
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: But I guess you just you picked the one that

640
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: resonates more with you. To me. When I look at

641
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: Peyton and be Brady, it kind of reminds me of

642
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: the great nineties rivalry of Cowboys Niners. I thought it

643
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: had the level stakes for the a f C Title game.

644
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: Uh felt like the Super Bowl. UHL though back then

645
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: like when it was kind of when it was at

646
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: its peak. Certainly, Peyton Manning's I think greatest victory as

647
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: a pro was the a f C Championship come back

648
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: against Brady, and that was when Brady was really starting

649
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: to take off. But when I think of the Manning

650
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: rivalry with the Patriots, it was really a Manning Belichick

651
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: rivalry and a Manning Patriots defense rivalry that was somewhat

652
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: one sided. At the time, people didn't think Tom Brady

653
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: was one of the eight nine best quarterbacks in the league.

654
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: You know. It was like they weren't quite at their

655
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: peaks at the exact same time until until the latter

656
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: part of the decade. Fair Okay, So with that in mind,

657
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: what is the next great NFL rivalry? Mark will start

658
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: with you. Well, I've got a bunch, but I think

659
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: one that I could see heating up real quick and

660
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: lasting for a while. Because you have two young quarterbacks,

661
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: you have two young coaches, and you've got a lot

662
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: of young stars on one team and another team that's

663
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: in development, the forty Niners with Jimmy g versus the

664
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: Rams and Sean McVeigh. I think that in that division

665
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: you start right there, they're gonna play each other twice

666
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: a year, and they probably play a lot of times

667
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: three times a year. If things pan out the way

668
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: that that you, you'd hope for high stakes and that

669
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: has all the ingredients for me. I knew that would

670
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: come up on the show because I think we're all

671
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: high on both of those teams. Um, and I like it.

672
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: I think it's fun, it's great. I love that you

673
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: like it was. I have the exact same thing. Let

674
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: me give you a little bit a peak of what

675
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: happened at the nineteen six winter meetings. Everybody settle around

676
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: the fire. We think that like all these new rules

677
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: that they have, these like they have very busy winter meetings. Now, no, no, no, no,

678
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,280
Speaker 1: here's what happened in nineteen One of the NFL owners,

679
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: George Preston, Marcel, owner of the Redskins, shows up to

680
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: the meetings and announced it famously one of the most

681
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: racist uh you know, owners and history when Jim Brown

682
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: scored against him. Uh Mari Povich's father, Shirley Povich, was

683
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: writing for The Washington Post, said Jim Brown integrated the

684
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: goal line over and over and uh so in George

685
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: Preston Marshal arrives and says that elmer Leyden, the commissioner,

686
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: will get reelected over my dead body. That's how it starts.

687
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: They elect Burt Bell, who goes on to be the commissioner,

688
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: and he comes up with the any given Sunday quote.

689
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: Love that story back in the day. Oh yeah, So

690
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: we're just getting into it. Dan Topping, the owner of

691
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,959
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Dodgers, which was one of the biggest teams

692
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: in the league, an NFL landmark franchise, decides to leave

693
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: and join the All American Football Conference, which is just starting.

694
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: Dan Reeves, who owns the champion Cleveland Rams, threatens to

695
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: leave the league if they don't let him go to

696
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. In order to go to Los Angeles, the

697
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: black newspaper writers have mandated that the Dot the Rams

698
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: have to become integrated. So within days all of this happens.

699
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: They lose a new York franchise. They moved to l

700
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: A twelve years before the Brooklyn Dodgers of baseball fame

701
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: moved to l A. The Rams move out there, and

702
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: that starts the rivalry with the twelve years before baseball

703
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: hits the West Coast, football becomes the first sport to

704
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: go truly coast to coast. So this is now, it's

705
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: coming all the way back around with the future. That's

706
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: how it all started. It bubbled us is a flat circle.

707
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: You had, you had Joe Montana and the Niners. You

708
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: had Jim Everett and the Ramas. But the Niners had

709
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: their number every single time. Yeah, the Rams were like

710
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: the second best. That's the last time those two have

711
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: really been rivalry, these two teams. I think this is

712
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: like the perfect answer because in a league where the

713
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: teams are gonna most of them are gonna be totally

714
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: different in three or four years. I'll bet on Kyle

715
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: Shanahan and Sean McVeigh still being there in five years

716
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: and still matching wits and kind of growing up together

717
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: as great head coaches in that division. Or the Niners

718
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: ready now though, that's the question, are they ready in eighteen? Uh,

719
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: we don't know yet, but it's a fair question. I

720
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: think the offense is ready. I mean we were saying

721
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 1: the same thing about the Rams last year, so people

722
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: in the desert thinks. So people love people love the

723
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: uh Niners. This year very popular team, which it makes sense,

724
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: you know the way they finished last year. UM, wonder

725
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: what spicy things. I can always call him up and

726
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: ask him, uh, so you got you have the same one?

727
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: Did you have the same thing as well? I mean

728
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: that that was definitely one that was on my mind,

729
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: but I had I had a few possibilities. I'll throw

730
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: a player the player rivalry out, um, and it won't

731
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: be one where they see each other much. In fact,

732
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: they'll never be on the same field together. But for

733
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: reasons that are obvious to everyone, Sam Donald versus se

734
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley is gonna be a great, great, great rivalry

735
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: in New York between two fan bases where you have

736
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: the the guy that was supposed to be the success

737
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: with Eli Manning uh ends up now being the potential

738
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: successor to Joe Namath. And then you have Barkley, who

739
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: the Giants love so much they decided to pass on

740
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: a quarterback and let him go to Little brother next door.

741
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be a really fun subplot.

742
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: It makes me wish I still lived in New York

743
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be something that's gonna be a major

744
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: talk radio UH topic and the back pages UH for

745
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: years to come potentially, and you might not even know

746
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: how it's gonna shake out for three years, five years,

747
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: ten years. But I love that as forever. And as

748
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: a Yankee fan, for instance, you always look at the

749
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: Mets is on a little brother and like, oh, that's

750
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: cute whatever, and Giants fans look at Jets fans the

751
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: same way. It's not a real rivalry because the Jets

752
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: almost play a different sport the way the Giants have

753
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: operated the last sixty plus years in professional football. But now,

754
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, for the first time, the Jets

755
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: might have the upper hand if something, if this clicks

756
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 1: in the right way and it's still it will stick

757
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: to the craw of every Giant fan in a way

758
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: that gives me goose bumps just thinking about it. So

759
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: this is very exciting time to major impact college players

760
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: UH going head to head through the years, but not

761
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: really head to head, but the fan bases. It will

762
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: inflame the rivalry in New York. I hope so, I

763
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: hope this is good though, because you don't like the Giants,

764
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: so you can you could root with me on this.

765
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: My issue with New York teams in every sport isn't

766
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: just it every time someone sneezes its news. It's that

767
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: were subjected to boring, boring teams from New York and

768
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: they get all of the attention, so they just think

769
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm exciting. I think less so in football. You know,

770
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: at least because football is the only sport where a

771
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: team that's insane, they get so much that they Jets

772
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: were awful, and because they had Tebow and Sanchez, everyone

773
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: wanted to talk in Rex, they had a lot of attention.

774
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: But the football is the only sport where you can

775
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: be a team pretty off the radar and you're still

776
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: kind of a national team if you're interesting enough and

777
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: people talk. I was talking about the Jets and Giants

778
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: last year. After a certain point, it does a lot

779
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: for the beloved Snoopy Bowl. Let's let's put that into focus.

780
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: That thing has got some juice behind it. Once I

781
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: didn't think about that. Put that right at the top

782
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: of the list. That trophy I'll put you know, the

783
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: rivalry that I know if Dick ever saw, you know,

784
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: was still around running NBC Sports, He's still around, he's

785
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: still alive. This is the one he would put Eagles Cowboys.

786
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that's on NBC. That'll be on

787
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: NBC plenty, But I do believe in Dak Prescott long term.

788
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: So having Dak Prescott and Carson Wentz installed, and those

789
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: two fan bases love to argue Doak versus wins in

790
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: general because they're from the same draft class, and having

791
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: Zeke alongside Dak kind of helps even that out because

792
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: I don't think Zeke's going anywhere. I don't think Dak's

793
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: going anywhere. I don't think Wentz is going anywhere. So

794
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: that should be fun. And we know for it's like

795
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: it's basically lock it into Sunday Night Football minimum one

796
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: time a year, maybe maybe eight times. Probably there they'll

797
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: just make a rule and just play like half their

798
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: games against Eaji. This is a time, a little bit

799
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: of a transition year. I think for the Cowboys, maybe

800
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: a little surprise people and be a playoff team again,

801
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: uh this year. But if they you know, go get

802
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: a wide receiver down the line if they shore up

803
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: the defense a little bit, and like you said, Dak

804
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: and Zeke continue to progress. I don't think the Cowboys

805
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: are going away, and I don't think the Eagles are either.

806
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: So it's just I felt the same way as you Greg.

807
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: Even with a suspect wide receiver, corps and tight end,

808
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: that offensive nucleus is about as valuable as anyone's. It's

809
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: the defense. Are they going to be good enough to

810
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: make that a rivalry with the Eagles? I have a

811
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: little you know what, I can't stand rivalries that like

812
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: for twenty years or pitched to you as a rivalry,

813
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: but they are not, because one of the two teams

814
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: is a casket, just an empty casket with nothing in it.

815
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: And you've been telling me that. You've just been telling

816
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: me they're they're looking for the dead body. They can't

817
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: even find the dead body. You've been telling me this NFL,

818
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: not at all. You've been telling me this storeroom, a storeroom.

819
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: You've been telling me this about Bears Packers for decades.

820
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: And I think that it would be great for that division,

821
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: which to me, has been a snooze fest for years,

822
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: to have the Green Bay Packers challenged by the Bears,

823
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: who have an exciting young coach. You've got a young quarterback.

824
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: There's a number of players on that team already that

825
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: make the Bears a sneaky kind of wild card type feel.

826
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: You never know. They could have a little bit of

827
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: a jump, and I'd love to see them. Finally, I'm

828
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: tired of handing this division, and in apologies to Vikings

829
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: fans because they are probably the best team in the

830
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: division right now, but just handing it to Green Bay

831
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 1: over and over and on. The part of the reason

832
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: is because you get two against the Bears every year.

833
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: Give me a break with Jake Cutler and putting that

834
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: match up on Monday Night Football and Sunday Football over

835
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: and over. Give it some real juice and I'll watch it.

836
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: Otherwise I'm not watching it. Would you be surprised if

837
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: within the next year that became the toughest division in football.

838
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: I think it's certainly could. It's much more exciting now

839
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: because you took two boring coaches and replaced them with

840
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: two innovators. It's true, we don't need another kind of

841
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: three minute montage to start Sunday night football. It's like

842
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: the most storied rivalry in the NFL, the Bears and

843
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: Packers meeting for the hundred time, and they're always like

844
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: breaking the tie of which team one more. It's like, no,

845
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: I I agree. I don't care about that. I haven't.

846
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't hate history. I'm just saying, since i've been watching,

847
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 1: it's been one way traffic and it hasn't been that exciting.

848
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Speaker 1: So don't tell me about the best rivalry. All right,

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Speaker 1: good talk everybody. By the way, now, before we go,

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Speaker 1: everybody loves Warrior caps. Everybody wanted it, The officials wanted it. Yesterday.

851
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: If you're watching the Suckets, James Harden threes are getting

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Speaker 1: the slapped. I was thanking God that they did not

853
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Speaker 1: call those, because I do not want the future of

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00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: basketball to be people faking all these threes and hoping

855
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Speaker 1: to draw fouls. It's bad for this. I know what

856
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Speaker 1: you're saying. But he was getting hit on the arm.

857
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 1: Don't don't do these fluke forty footers like you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: as soon as my arm gets hit instead of passing,

859
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it at the backboard. Give me a

860
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Speaker 1: break with that nonsense. All right. All that said, I

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00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: think people got what they wanted Warriors Cabs apart four.

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Speaker 1: Now our dream super Bowl matchups. Let's dream a little

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Speaker 1: dream here in late May. Mark, I have so many,

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00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 1: but um I will just stop for one. I would

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Speaker 1: love to see Andy Dalton and the Bengals upset the

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Speaker 1: Apple Cart roll into the a f C Championship, devastate,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers go to the Super Bowl and it's Andy

868
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: Dalton all week long? Verse Aaron Rodgers, how possibly could

869
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton beat the best quarterback of all time? And

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Speaker 1: then Andy Dalton does it and football is just flipped

871
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Speaker 1: on its ass for the next two decades. That isn't

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Speaker 1: even my favorite matchup, but that's the one I gave you.

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Speaker 1: I like. I like your logic too, because Dalton is

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Speaker 1: That would be such an amazing um build for him

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00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: in a career that had seemed to flatlined. And then

876
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Speaker 1: you get to take out the Packers, who you hate

877
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: and you don't like, and you want to see them.

878
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: You always want to see them take a dirt nap

879
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: so on a grand stage against Andy Dalton. You love that.

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00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: Be hard to live that down. I was about to

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00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: argue you, but everything you just said is correct. West

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00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: dream matchup? Well, Mark picked one team that is haunted.

883
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: The one team in the NFL that truly is haunting

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Speaker 1: and hasn't won a playoff games the Bengals. I'll pick

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Speaker 1: one of the teams that everyone thinks is haunted, the

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Speaker 1: Chargers against the Rams and an all Angelino super Bowl.

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00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: That's what I think. The most interesting thing I said

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Speaker 1: this last week going on in the NFL is what

889
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: Sean mcveigh's whip whispering in Jared Goff's ear at the

890
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: line of scribbage. And I get the point that play

891
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: callers have been doing this for years. As less Need

892
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: told us on this very podcast, there's thirty two offensive

893
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: coordinators and thirty two quarterbacks. Where the edge is gained

894
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: is on what that specific play caller is putting in

895
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 1: the ear. That's where the edge is gained. And really,

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Speaker 1: really smart coaches are taking advantage of that. I like that.

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Speaker 1: Like that. That was my original pick up for the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl matchup as well. But I'm gonna pivot. Great

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Speaker 1: scienists think, alike, what do you got? I'm gonna pivot

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Speaker 1: on the spot here. I had it in my head.

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00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: Do you want me to give you an extra minute? Okay?

902
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: I got the Jets against literally anybody a right. That

903
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: wasn't very long. That's it. Uh, that wasn't very long.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with two two organizations. I would love

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Speaker 1: to see when it all the Kansas City Chiefs in

906
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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcon. I'm in on the Falcons this year.

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Speaker 1: I I would love it if they we finally get

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00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: the home super Bowl this year. We thought we might

909
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: have it last year in Minnesota. I think that would

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Speaker 1: be exciting, exciting for an underrated sports town and certainly

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00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: in terms of having some pain in their lives, Atlanta

912
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: sports fans have been through a lot. And then the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs is really more about Andy Reid. I would love

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Speaker 1: to see Andy Reid and that offense, which is just

915
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Speaker 1: exciting to watch, but in general, as kind of a

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Speaker 1: football guy, get his due. Either one of those teams win,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's a great story, very humanitarian. Here.

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Speaker 1: I have a couple of new three that you would

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Speaker 1: like shooting for the Walter Payton Man of the Year

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Speaker 1: when I have three that three that are hand woven

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Speaker 1: for you. One is just forget l A vers l A.

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Speaker 1: I see what we're trying to do there. From the

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Speaker 1: pr angle, we were about five miles away New York

924
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: versus New York. That would be incredible and it would

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Speaker 1: do what you just talked about with sequan verse Sam Donald.

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Speaker 1: But how about this Eli Manning who everyone shreds and

927
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Speaker 1: already has beheaded that if the last season he goes

928
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Speaker 1: out with one more super Bowl win over the Patriots,

929
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Speaker 1: that would be fantastic. Here's the even better one everyone's

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Speaker 1: wondering at. The forty Niners are a playoff team, they're

931
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Speaker 1: a super Bowl team. They go up and Jimmy g

932
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Speaker 1: takes down Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. Now that I

933
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Speaker 1: would love to see. That would be my dream matchup.

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Speaker 1: He didn't say result. He didn't say result. He just

935
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Speaker 1: said the matchup. I got the result. Watch out. Oh

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Speaker 1: that would be so sweet. And if it was like

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Speaker 1: a shell lacking too where Brady looks like that would

938
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Speaker 1: be the end of the Patriots and Garoppolo just shreds,

939
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Speaker 1: that would be the end of the Patriots, he says,

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Speaker 1: after their fourth Super Bowl appearing in five years. No,

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Speaker 1: I think I think that would break the house. That

942
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: would burn the house down. All Right, good talkers, really

943
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 1: good stuff, really really nice return by Mark who really

944
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: came here. And even though he says he wasn't refreshed.

945
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: He looked refreshed on the show, and he sounded refreshed,

946
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: faking it. And now we're going to from here, uh

947
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Speaker 1: sign off, And then we're gonna have a a content

948
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Speaker 1: generation meeting. We're gonna have a little meeting on an

949
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: off site location and we're gonna dream it all up again,

950
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Speaker 1: come up with some ideas what we do. It's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, Gregg Popovich for the Spurs throws a little

952
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, junket every year for just him and his

953
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, just the brain child, all all of the

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Speaker 1: brain children of the Spurs get together and come up

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Speaker 1: with That is dream it all up again. Guys. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's go stand. They had to signing off. Four Quiet Storm,

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Speaker 1: the Mailman, the old Boss, Lindsey Bolton finally by still

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Speaker 1: confident in lebron My good Tell. Thursday,