1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: This is Alec Baldwin, and you're listening to Here's the thing. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: As all of our listeners know, actress Debbie Reynolds died 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: on December twenty eighth, just one day after her daughter, 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: actress Carrie Fisher, passed away on the twenty seventh. Carrie 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: and her mother had an unusually close relationship in public, 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: and that was no act. Carrie was a friend of mine, 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: and I don't mean in passing at movie premieres or 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: film festivals. When I would attend parties at Carrie's home, 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: she would talk about her mother incessantly. They were each 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: other's best friend. It breaks my heart, especially for her 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: daughter Billie, that Carrie is gone. I always imagine we 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: would have her on this program, perhaps with her mother, 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: but that never came to pass. But right now we 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: like to rebroadcast our interview with Hollywood legend, the late 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: Debbie Reynolds. It's rare when a movie comes along and 16 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: inspires a whole generation of actors, singers, and directors. Singing 17 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: in the Rain is one of those movies. It also 18 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: transformed the lives of its stars. Debbie Reynolds was just 19 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: a twenty year old actress under contract at MGM, but 20 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: after her performance in that iconic film, Debbie Reynolds was 21 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: destined to become a star. Some of the highlights of 22 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: her career include Tammy and Tammy and The Bachelor, with 23 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: a song that reached number one on the Billboard Charts, 24 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: I have a Cottonwoods whispering a ball Jimmy jem Jemmy Love. 25 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Reynolds was nominated for an Academy Award for her leading 26 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: role in The Unsinkable Molly Brown and received a Tony 27 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: nomination for her Broadway debut in the musical Irene. Over 28 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: twenty years later, Reynolds played Albert Brooks mother in his 29 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: film entitled Mother. This is My Son the Other one 30 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: is he staying with me for a while. Debbie and 31 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I celebrated our birthdays earlier this month, just two days apart. 32 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: We share an astrological sign aries, I'm still living. Isn't 33 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: that extraordinary? Well? I couldn't believe it without my birthday 34 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: came again. It just was, and there were the world 35 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 1: and eighty one. I said, hold it. I didn't want 36 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: to be eighty. How did we get to eighty one? 37 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: And Debbie Reynolds has stayed busy unlike a lot of 38 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: her contemporaries. My friends, a lot of them just gave 39 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: up because there weren't any good rules and everything they 40 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: read was sort of a moron and that was depressing 41 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: to a lot of them. So the opportunities just dried up. 42 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: They just walked a way and everything just wound up 43 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: to be like nothing, you know, And so they took 44 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: up different hobbies. Some of them example teachers. Agnes Moorehead 45 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: was one of my best girlfriends, and she was a 46 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: great act that's really great, and she had a lot 47 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: of students at her house come over and she taught acting. 48 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: She taught acting, and she taught singing. She taught impressions 49 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: to California, California on Roxbury. Right across the street was 50 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy Stewart and Lucille Ball and everybody was on that 51 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: one street. It was like, let's have a party every night. 52 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: George Burns and Eddie Candor lived on one block, so 53 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: I would drive over there because that street was more 54 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: fun than my phone. No, I'm gonna mention certain people, 55 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: and not for the obvious reasons, but I you remained 56 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: friends with Elizabeth Taylor until she died. Why do you 57 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: think she stopped working, and why do you think she 58 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: stopped taking care of it? That had to stop more, 59 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: and she became quite ill. She wouldn't have ever quit working. 60 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: All Elizabeth love to work, Yes she did, and she 61 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: was a very good actress. We did a picture Carrie wrote, 62 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: My daughter carry these Old Broads. It was called and 63 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: as Sherley McClain, Joan Collins and Elizabeth and myself made 64 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: this movie. We made a movie was called These Old 65 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: Broads that carrying This movie, Well, maybe you're one of 66 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: the lucky ones. It was a cute movie. Was you know, 67 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: four old broads that gave up was what you're talking about. 68 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: They gave up working and you know, just kind of 69 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: dillied around with the rest of the movie. You Elizabeth Taylor, 70 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: j Collins, and Shirley McClain. It was funny. Well, we 71 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: had a lot of fun working together. That Joan never 72 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: lets you watch her makeup, and she hides in her 73 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: trailer and all her makeup. But we all kind of 74 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: quite an operation. Well it is an operation for all 75 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: of us. At a certain point when you look in 76 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: the mirror and everything has moved someplace else, and all 77 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: you broads, shall we say, came these four broads came 78 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: from an era when everything was just was at its height. 79 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: It's kind of heightened doing your hair and your makeup 80 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: and your costumes and everything. It's not is everything is 81 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: super important and everything is done for you. When we 82 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: were into contract, most of us, Shirley McClain and Elizabeth 83 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: they were at MGM, and everything was done for us, 84 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, the makeup, the hair, It sent cars for us. 85 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: We were very spoiled. We didn't kind of know what 86 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: to do when they dropped everybody, like when television came 87 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: in and remember what year around there was the end 88 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: of the studio system kind of died as you get 89 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: into the fifties. It is slowly died a death. You know. 90 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 1: It was like interesting to watch it was. I didn't 91 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: realize it was the end, you know, I didn't know 92 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: that it was that you didn't know what the change meant. Well, 93 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: I was a young girl, so I didn't And I 94 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: wasn't an intellectual. I wasn't educated. I'm from Burbankbank and 95 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: originally from You want to be a gym teacher, that's me, 96 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: you know what I always aim high get me too. 97 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: I love Jim. You know I love I wanted to 98 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: be a lifeguard son girls. Well yeah, yes, Well I 99 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: was never that ambitious that I wanted to be a lifeguard, 100 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: but I wanted to be a gymnast. I wanted to 101 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: work on the bars and entropedes work. I loved all 102 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: that stuff. And what's the link for you as a 103 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: young girl, because you started very young as a young 104 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: girl in Burbank and you're athletic, no doubt. What's the 105 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: first thing that happened that says show business to you? Well, 106 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: I never thought about me being in show business. I 107 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: was a fan, and I would go to the movies 108 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: because my mother left me. But no one else in 109 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: our church was allowed to go to films because movie 110 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: stars were all evil creatures, just dreadful. My mother let 111 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: me go to films. My mother was very religious, very 112 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: my family said my dad. My father used to say, no, no, no, 113 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go to church with you. I've 114 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: told you that I'm not going to go because all 115 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: those good people will be killed if I walked down 116 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: the roof of fallen And he was always teasing if 117 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: you don't by asking what church did you go to? 118 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: Church of the Nazarene, which is like heart shell Baptist, 119 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: kind of like your mom was a heart She was 120 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: a Texan. She was a Texan Texan Baptist. She was 121 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: tough and strict, and there were so many rules, how 122 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: many kids in the family. Just my brother and I 123 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: were in the family. And then my mother discovered what's 124 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: your brother's name? Bill? And do you know who Bill is? 125 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: To me, you don't know. Do you know that Billy 126 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: Reynolds was my makeup artist on nuts Landing for a year? 127 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, was he your brother? Billy wasn't He 128 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: was my makeup artist. And he's one of the people 129 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: that helped me survived that experience because those three broads 130 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: were from the Joan Colins School where they were having 131 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: the makeup put on with a trowel every day. They 132 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: had to have federally funded programs to pay for the 133 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: makeup for them. Billy Reynolds would turn to me and 134 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: he'd sit there and say, you know, did you bring 135 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: a book with you? We're in a bere for a while. 136 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: These girls are two or three hours in the chair. 137 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: And then he told me that he was Elvis's makeup artist. 138 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: And you know that every time he mentioned Elvis. He 139 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: didn't mention it a lot because he was very shy, 140 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: very shy. He mentioned Elvis once or twice and he 141 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: started to cry. He would turn away from me and 142 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: hid to say. She said to me, almost was the 143 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: greatest man I ever worked with. Well, the only used 144 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: to play. Elvis used to tease him and put snakes 145 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: down his pants, off corn and pop pop popcorn and 146 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: put it in his drawers. You know, they used to 147 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: kid my brother. They used to just pick on them 148 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: kind of, but he didn't care. My brother was a 149 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: baseball player, really man's man. He lives men in my 150 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: house with me. Will you give him my love? I 151 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: don't even know if he'll remember me. He does, Oh, 152 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: he remembers everything. He just doesn't talk about it. You 153 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: know some men that are like almost reclusive, but not really, 154 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: because underneath all of that is a great sense of humor. Jore, 155 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: my brother, I think he helped save my life. The 156 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: ladies here, by the way, who we work with, made 157 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: us a cupcake. I see, I know that the candle 158 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: I just said, the candle just burned my father. Candles 159 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: and strawberries and cupcakes. It's our birthday. That has to 160 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: be nice to us. So it has to be nice 161 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: to us. They made the cupcake gluten free, but you 162 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: and I both know the gluten free really is bullshit. Well, 163 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: I think you're allowed on radio, you know. I always 164 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: I used to be a disc jockey when I was 165 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: sixteen years older, was at Warner Brothers. I first went 166 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: there when I first won this little contest contest in Burbank, California, 167 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: where I was raised. So we came from Texas because 168 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: we were really poor, and my dad wanted us to 169 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: have a better life, so he moved us to California 170 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: for he railroad. He worked for the railroad. He repaired 171 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: underneath the engines. He would repair all kinds of railroad 172 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: happening there in California. Well, my my dad worked really hard, 173 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: but I did the most boring job in the whole 174 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: wide world. I retired him as soon as I came 175 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: as luck changed in my whole life changed, and I 176 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: came into show business. I discovered a whole different world 177 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: and that people really had fun and people laughed. And 178 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: our life was rather tedious and hard because we didn't 179 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: have any money. I mean, my dad made two hundred 180 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: a month. Now, that's better than nothing, but it's still 181 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: also advised very little. So our life was a little 182 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: bit eager. You know, we never had a Christmas tree. 183 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: We never had so when the opportunity came along for 184 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: you to get into the business, and I'm from the 185 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: same school, actually, I'm wondering where you was enticed by 186 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: and where you was thrilled by as much about making 187 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: money to help your family as you were about your 188 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: own glory. Well, mostly I thought it was a joke 189 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: that I won this contest, and then all of a sudden, 190 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm in movies. The silliest thing was the contest. It 191 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: was a Miss Burbank, were Miss burbank Bank. Don't don't, don't, 192 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: don't downplay that. I changed my whole life and made 193 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: my whole life wonderful and marvelous, travel all over the 194 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: world and meet all these fabulous, interesting people and see 195 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: different countries as so I'm very proud to say I 196 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: was Miss Burbank and had a hole in my bathing 197 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: suit and there my rear end was hanging out, and 198 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: I didn't have shoes, high heel shoes, so I had 199 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm very grateful for stumbling in the show the first step. Yeah. 200 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: Then after miss Burbank what happened? They took me to 201 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: Warner Brothers and made a little screen test and asked 202 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: me why I wanted to be a movie star. So 203 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: of course I told him I didn't march. And after 204 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: they laughed and they said, of course you do, I 205 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: said no, I don't. I don't really. I mean, this 206 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: is just fun. You're just this is your kidding around, right. 207 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: I was very square and my family were very virginal, 208 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: you know, very go to church Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. 209 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: Are you glad they were square? I'm grateful for that 210 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: kind of upbringing throughout your career. And I'm not just 211 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: saying this, I mean I wouldn't waste your time of mind. 212 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: You know, you're a gorgeous woman, and everybody thinks of 213 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: you and think of you being three things beautiful and talented, 214 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: but also being very straight laced. I mean, your career 215 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: was something where there's a kind of a in the 216 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: sensuality quote and there's any of a gardener over here. 217 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: It's kind of working that whole thing, and then there's you, 218 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: who you didn't work that whole thing? Did you find 219 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: that that was something that was because of your childho. 220 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: I just think that that's the way you're raised. You know, 221 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: it's what here. What you hear is sinful, and what 222 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: you hear is not proper for young girls to behave 223 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: in that manner. So you were pretty strict, you know, 224 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: I mean you were, and I just grew up that way, 225 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: So I thought that's the way everybody was until after 226 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: three husbands. Now I realized that that is totally wrong concept. 227 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: We're going to get to that unlucky and love unlucky? 228 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: What else happens when you're unlucky and love? I just 229 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: made it up. You just wrote that just for you. Okay, 230 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: well we should record you later. Good morning, we've danced 231 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: the whole night through. Good morning, Good morning to you, 232 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: and you and you and you're good morning, good morning. 233 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: It's great to stay in Blake. Good morning, good morning 234 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: to you. What fun you see? I can't sing to 235 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: save my life. If you put a gun to my head, 236 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: said sing. You almost sang on key. When did you 237 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: know you could sing? When did you know? When you 238 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: just started singing? Like of the people. So what you're 239 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: saying you started by doing mimicry. I started mimic Janet 240 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: McDonald's I've never tried to Derica, she's a soprano, but 241 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: I would do the alto and ethel Merman, anybody with 242 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: a big voice, you know, I'd always do their voices 243 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: because I I enjoy comedy, comedies, everything a Pratfall Stelach, 244 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: that's everything to me. I love vaudeville, that's my favorite thing. 245 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: I enjoy drama. Somebody else doing it, I personally don't 246 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: want to do it Debbie Reynolds, because it's so serious. 247 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: It makes me sad, it takes me where it goes, 248 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: and so I don't accept any parts that are devastating 249 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: because I don't want to be unhappy in my life. 250 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: I'll just live my life is that's tough enough, So 251 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't need any parts that make me miserable. So 252 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: when you're at warners and you say to them I 253 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: don't want to be an actress, and they do the 254 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: screen test, what happens there that you wind up banking 255 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: over to MGM. What happened? Well, Jack Warner, here's the boss. 256 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: So he said, we're not going to do it more musical, 257 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: So I'll send the kid over to MGM. So they 258 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: drove me. They sold me like a horse. Well there, donkey. 259 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: I was sort of stubborn, and I say a donkey. 260 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: So I go to MGM, which is LB Mayor, and 261 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: they're still making musicals like mad because they were the 262 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: biggest studio of all. Everybody in the world was there, Clark, Gable, 263 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: Van Johnson, you know, Gear Gars and Lana Turner, ever, 264 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: every I mean, the doors opened and like all these 265 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: stars spilled out. It was the only one, the only 266 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: one that ever really left on her own was Garble. 267 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: So I won't be alone. I won't will be alone. 268 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: So we left her alone. She's gone, She's had her car, 269 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: she's wed a car and shipped off. She went to 270 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: New York. She saved a hundred thousand dollars. She went 271 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: to the bank, she met the president. His name is Slee, 272 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: Mr Slee, and he's gone now. But I all this story. 273 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: I love stories. You could call me a gossip. So 274 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: Garbos with Mr. Shelee with a grand and she asked, 275 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: don't please, don't help me, don't take care of my money. 276 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: So Mr Shelee falls in love with Greta Garbo and 277 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: it takes care of her the rest of her life. 278 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: She lived in New York City and they used to 279 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: go for a walk. Garbo would walk and Mr Shelee 280 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: didn't like to walk, so he'd drive in the rolls 281 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: roys of the Dusselburg or whatever it was, beside her 282 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: while she did her shopping antiquing. And she loved Auntie. 283 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: Mr Shelee taking care of Greta Garbo or was he 284 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: taking her? He was taking care of her money. Money. 285 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: Now what they did on the side of her tea 286 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: or lunch. I never inquired A good doctors girl from 287 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: Texas doesn't tell you know. I didn't want to even 288 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: think about that, because I just wanted to think about 289 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: what a romantic situation. The whole thing's a man trailing 290 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: along in his how with this movie star, and she's 291 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: walking looking in all the windows, and then he's in 292 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: a in a car right with the door open, driving 293 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: along beside her. These stories don't happen anymore. She walked 294 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: away forever, She walked away forever. She's never made another 295 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: film ever. And you show up in an MGM and 296 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: what happens, Well, what happens is they send me to 297 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: a meeting. And so they called Jane Kelly in the 298 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: room and Mr Mayer says, here, Jean, this is a 299 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: new girl that you're going to have as you're leading lady. 300 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: And I'm seventeen, and but I'd never danced before, I'd 301 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: never acted before, nothing, nothing, person, just a girl's scout. 302 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: So there was a Gene Kelly a movie. So I 303 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: couldn't believe the whole scene. I mean, I just thought 304 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: the whole thing was silly. I really thought it was silly. 305 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: So Mr Kelly says, can you do a time step? 306 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: I said, oh, oh yes, I learned that a girl 307 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: scout cab So he said to do time step. So 308 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: I did a little awful time step and he said 309 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: can you do a Maxi Ford? And I said I 310 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: don't have a car. Well, obviously that was the wrong answer. 311 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: He looked at Mr Mayor and he said, you're kidding me, boss, 312 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: And Mr Mays said, now I'm not getting you meeting you. 313 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: This is this is the leading lady. She's going to 314 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: do the part. And that was it. He was stuck 315 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: with me, poor thing. Can you imagine Jane Gell and 316 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: these guys I'm assuming, like like many of the actors 317 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: I know today, they're pretty no nonsense people. When it 318 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: comes to the quality of their their product, and they're 319 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: very hard Gene Kelly. Of course when it is the 320 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: most brilliant dancer. Jean said, all right, I'll take her. 321 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: I can I can fix her. I can fix it 322 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: up because she's right for the part, the acting, bar 323 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: and but the dancing. My god. It was an interesting time, 324 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: but I was too young to know about it. Stare 325 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: taught you too. He helped me. I was trying to 326 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: learn everything, like with Donald run up the wall and 327 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: flip backwards you. I was a flip, but you know, 328 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: I had to learn how. I wanted to learn everything, 329 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: and then I'd be crying under the piano. One day 330 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: a pair of legs go by and I'm some crying 331 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: away and the legs say, who is that under the piano? 332 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: Who is crying? So I said, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, 333 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: it's just me, Debbie. So it was al fred Is Stare. 334 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: He said, Debbie, get out, get out from underneath. They 335 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: pulled me out and he said, now you come and 336 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: watch me with hers. I never allow anybody. He always 337 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: had a guard at the gate, a security guard. No 338 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: one was ever allowed. But he let me watch and 339 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: for maybe over forty minutes and his face turned already 340 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: just used a cane and a drum after about half 341 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: an hour in his face turning red, and he's doing 342 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: brilliant work. Of course, he looked over at me and says, now, Debbie, 343 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,479 Speaker 1: I wants you to go back in there, stop crying 344 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: and be great. In order to be a great dancer, 345 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: you have to practict, to kill yourself. This is what 346 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: it takes to be a great dancing. Now, run in there, 347 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: just running there, shut up and do it and help you. 348 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: Oh yes, I just felt like I was a big sissy, 349 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: and I don't like to be a big sissy in 350 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: those days or any other day. And then when you 351 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: you finished the movie, and when it was done, how 352 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: did you feel, and how did you feel when it 353 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: was over? I think you you've learned a great deal. 354 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: Either that or you already quit, because in order to 355 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: keep up with these great talents, you had to devote 356 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: yourself totally. I didn't go home. I slept in my 357 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: dressing room. I wasn't off any days. I didn't take 358 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: any days off because I practiced more while I was 359 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: on Saturday and Sunday. We didn't have a Saturday off. 360 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: We only had Sunday off and I practice all the time, 361 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: and I don't think I changed at all. I just 362 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: learned how to apply myself. And what about people's perception 363 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: of you? That must have changed. The picture came out 364 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: what year, I don't remember what year, in nineteen fifty two, 365 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: something like that. Well, it was not a hit. It 366 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: was not a hit. It was just a mediocre hit. 367 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,239 Speaker 1: And then it was discovered, rediscovered through the schools and 368 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: the teachers that taught drama and class and lessons. The 369 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 1: movie became a hit through school and for teachers, university 370 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: teachers and all that. Singing in the Rain has remained 371 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: a hit or became a hit many ten years, fifteen years. 372 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: But is it safe to say that the girl who's 373 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: crying under the table by the time the movie comes 374 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: out of that process is complete. You're a movie star now, correct? 375 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: Well I was popular. They couldn't believe a young girl 376 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: had gotten that far and no talent, no no experience, 377 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: So I was newsworthy. But in those days we had 378 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: movie magazines and they'd write all kinds of stories for free, 379 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, studios would give It was the golden era. 380 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: So what kind of story did they write about? You 381 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: then when you're only seventeen, eighteen years old? What did 382 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: they want to make it up? You know, they'd give 383 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: a little party. They'd give a party. They had Rock 384 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: Hudson going out with his secretary. You know Rock didn't 385 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: want to go out with his secretary. Yes, that's John, 386 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: Sam and Joe. What's the next picture you did? After 387 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: Singing in the Ring? After Singing in the Rain? I 388 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: did How the West was One? With every star you've 389 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: ever heard about? The first movie I ever saw in 390 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: the movie theater in my life ever. It was a 391 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: wonderful picture. Spencer Tracy narrated the whole thing. Starr You'll 392 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: never see again. That was Tracy's last appearance and they 393 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: didn't even go on film and he just narrated it. 394 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: And John Wayne was in that everybody. It took two 395 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: years to make that picture. I started out playing a 396 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: sixteen year old and ended up a ninety year old, 397 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: So it felt like my life if there. I worked 398 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: very hard on that picture, and Henry Hathaway was the director, 399 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: and he was really tough and very hard on everybody. 400 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's not very kind of actors, but we 401 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: were all a little bit stupid and employees slow. He 402 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: thought it was slow. So he I had heard this 403 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: about him. You know that he was a very tough director. 404 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 1: So when he came over to Fox Studio where I 405 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: was making another film with Andy Griffith, I said to him, 406 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: he wanted me to do it the first part of it, 407 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: how the West was on. I said, will sir, the 408 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: truth of it is that I've heard really such bad 409 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: things about you. I don't want to work with you. 410 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: So I just stared at me. Said, what the is 411 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: that what he's cussed like crazy? Oh? Yeah, cost He said, 412 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: what the what you little snot knows it? Little? Oh? Yes? 413 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: He attacked you aggressive, He bawled me out. He just said, 414 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: you have no right to say that I'm boss here, 415 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: that I cust and all that. I said, well, what 416 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: are you doing now? For goodness sake, what do you 417 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: think You're yelling at me, promissary, there are people staring 418 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: at everything. I said, this is why I would never 419 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: work for you, because I don't want to be miserable. 420 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: So I turned it down, and then he wouldn't let 421 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: me turn it down. He said, no, you're going to 422 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: do it, and he talked to the president of Fox 423 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: and MGM, which owned my contract. They said, I had 424 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: to do it, so I had to do it. There's 425 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: a one where I'll be home in the So back then, 426 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: you signed those contracts and people, I think the the 427 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: distance that the studio system has now, which we seed 428 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: it so far for audiences today, they don't understand that 429 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: notion that you signed a contract and you didn't get 430 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: to pick the films your him your own. It's like 431 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: a bondage, the condentured servitude. That's exactly. How did the 432 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: picture go with him? Was? He was? He was? He? Well, 433 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: I went the first section is the one that I 434 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: was signed for and went on location and he said, 435 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: all right, walk over there. I said, where am I walking? 436 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: To sir? You just walk where? I said, pointing to 437 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: I said, I have to understand where Why am I walking? 438 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: What am I saying? He said, no, you know, you 439 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: just do what I say. I said, this is what 440 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: I told you that day we had the lunch that 441 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: you were going to be rude and terrible to work 442 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: with them. So I'm going to go lie down to rest. 443 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: He said, no, you're not. You're going to walk over 444 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: there and you're going to shut out. I said, no, 445 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm going to faint because you've upset me 446 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: too much. So I fainted, and what happened? I love this. 447 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to do that one. I'm going to do 448 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: that now. You just pass out when I need a 449 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: director like I'm gonna faint. Oh my god, you've upset me. 450 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: Some boom boom fall Just fall down this let him 451 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: kick here, It doesn't matter, so lay down. So if 452 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: you're lane, did hath awake come up and kick you? Did? 453 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: He kind of poke you with his boot or he 454 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: poked me? He poked me with seriously, no here his foot. 455 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: You know he poked me because you wake up? You're 456 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: silly sum what custing kidding me? I wouldn't open my 457 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: eyes at all because I was just in my mind. 458 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: I said, just stay here all day, just say they 459 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: can't wake make you wake up. So they put some 460 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: that chlora what's that stuff under ether under your nose. Yeah, 461 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: but I didn't still wake up. I just breathed really 462 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: deeply like yoga. You know, no, I was doing this 463 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: iron vaded breathing of smelling souls. That's how obstinate you were. 464 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: I was not going to wake up. He couldn't get 465 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: me up with the conclusion of this. What happened? Did you? 466 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: I'm assuming because you're here. You eventually got up. He 467 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: walked away from and he said, she's faking. I know 468 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: she's faking, and I'm gonna kill a little kid. And 469 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: then he became amused by it because he thought he 470 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 1: knew I was faking, but I wasn't going to wake up. 471 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: He kind of respected you a little bit before back 472 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't going away, and he knew I wouldn't do it. 473 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: I was a lot like Hathaway, say so, so, how 474 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: many months did you have to go on this goddamn picture? 475 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: A year, year and a half. About ten times I 476 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: was gonna say, how many more faith did you? Did? 477 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: Your dresser not to laid down a cushion or something. 478 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: When you did you wink at her. I would just 479 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: kind of wink and I'd fall. You know, the same 480 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: thing happened on Broadway. I was doing a play here 481 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: called Irene, and they wouldn't give us two more days 482 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: to rehearsal Gower Champions going nuts. We're not quite ready 483 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,479 Speaker 1: or ready to open, but we're not quite ready. So 484 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: I went over to Gary. I said listen, Garret, if 485 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: we need another two days, I'll get it. He says, 486 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: you can't get it. They wore they're out of money. 487 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: As a no no if I disappear, if I get 488 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: sick or something happened, if I fall, you know, He said, 489 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: well how can you do that? I said, watch. I said, okay, 490 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: let's rehearse that. What first number? So we were the 491 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: one when I do the flip? So I did, and 492 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: I said, all right, all right, go ahead, go And 493 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: Gower is looking a can't relieve what I'm going to do. 494 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: He doesn't know what I'm going to do. So I 495 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: ran and run forward to the wings and flip in 496 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: the air and crashed down and knocked myself out. But 497 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm not really out of no, so I opened one 498 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: eye to Gower and winked at him and went back out. 499 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: You really aren't this wholesome that Nazarine from Burnbank. You 500 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: with me? You can fool like trouble day tuble, But no, 501 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: I just get a very wilful who's a director that 502 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: you loved? I really loved all the directors. I loved 503 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: Hathaway too. I became very dear friends and visited together 504 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: aries aren't you you're an Aries. I'm Aries. I'm born 505 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: April Fool's Day. Aries is is very stubborn but very 506 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: really good person. I mean, I don't think that there's 507 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: a bad bone in the body other than our temper 508 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: o that I you're known for your temper. That's not true. 509 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: But it's not true, right, It's just if you're the 510 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: press making up things. You know. Oh, the press love 511 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: to make everything well. Luckily see, I'm not popular in 512 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: the sense for the press. I see a picture of 513 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: me going to it says I'm going to hit or 514 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: push the photographer. I'm going to help them. They might fold, 515 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm reaching to help them. Or think the photographers today 516 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: are terrible when they chase people. Say they didn't do 517 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: that in my day. Now, I'm so happy I was 518 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: in a golden era. They keep calling it a show 519 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: business and we didn't have paparazzie like this. When speaking 520 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: of which, when you say about being an Aries, and 521 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm not big on astrology, but people who are areas there, 522 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: we say they love to bury the hatchet and have 523 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: people get along. And even though you can have a 524 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: bad temper and you can have grudges against people, they 525 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: don't laugh. You just speak up right. You're kind of 526 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,719 Speaker 1: rigorously honest if we if you will, But for you, 527 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: you buried the hatchet with Hathaway and he became a friend. 528 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: And you're someone that doesn't like to hold a grudge 529 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: with people. No, I don't, but I'm rather like an elephant. 530 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: I remember everything. And Debbie Reynolds has had her share 531 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: of hatchets to berry. In nine she married singer Eddie Fisher. 532 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: It was the show business wedding of the year. Four 533 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: years later, Fisher famously left Reynolds for her best friend, 534 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Taylor soon after Taylor's husband was killed in an 535 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: airplane accident, but years later she patched things up with Elizabeth. 536 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: They had known each other since they were kids. We 537 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: were friends, we went to school together. Elizabeth and I 538 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: were kids together, and so what happens about our leationship 539 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: was out of their desire to be together Eddie Fisher 540 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: and and she sold that you know, when a man 541 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: wants to go, he wants to go, he goes. I've 542 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: learned that that certainly. So of course I forgave her 543 00:30:54,160 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: years after that because she she forgave her. So marriages 544 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: two and three were less public, but no less painful 545 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: for Reynolds. Now she's sworn off the institution. In a minute, 546 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: she'll talk about her daughter, Carrie Fisher and their relationship. 547 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm Alec Baldwin, and you're listening to here's the thing. 548 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: This is Alec Baldwin. Carrie Fisher's solo show, Wishful Drinking, 549 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: discusses her battles with substance abuse, manic depression, and being 550 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: the child of Hollywood royalty. It's poignant and hilarious. Having 551 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: waited my entire life to get an award for something, 552 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, anything, I don't care. All right, fine, not acting, 553 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: but what about like a tiny one for writing? I 554 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: now get awards all the time for being mentally ill. 555 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: So she is so funny. Oh, yes, she's brilliant. She's brilliant. 556 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: The children were really little. I was very worried about 557 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: my health. I've been on the road that I was 558 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: just working like mad in vaudeville, and I was concerned, 559 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 1: and the children were very small, and I called up 560 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: Jeane Dixon, who was a prophet and lived in Washington, 561 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: and I mean she did, you know, she did with 562 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: the government and all kinds of and she was. It 563 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: was the truth. She was sensational. Gave me an appointment 564 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: and I sat down and she told me exactly what 565 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: my children have become and everything that happened. She told 566 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: me I was married to Harry Carl at the time. 567 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: She said, when you go home, you're going to have 568 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: to face the divorce, and he has taken all of 569 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: your money. When you go home, you will find that out. 570 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: So you don't know anything about it. I said, well, no, 571 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: I let him take care of the money. She said, 572 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: well he is. Carrie was going to be in white 573 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: robes and sand on a stage. The astrologer Gene Dixon estraller, 574 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: just Jane Dixon, who is very world famous. Did she 575 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: predict Kennedy's assassination as well? She predicted everything is Ken, 576 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: Robert and Jack Kennedy. Yes, she was very famous. And 577 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: then she told me Todd would would be a builder 578 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: and go to architectural school, and they have exactly your son, 579 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: my son architecturals well, he's a bills. Where does he live. 580 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: He lives in the valley, all your families all around it. Yes, 581 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: there are. We all live sort of together because we 582 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: adore each other. You wrote in your book that you're 583 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: unlucky in love? Why were you unlucky in love? What 584 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: do you mean? Because I'm just too old fashioned? You know. Well, 585 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: of course I picked the wrong man. But that's because 586 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: I am easy. You know, I'm easy. I don't ever argue. 587 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,239 Speaker 1: I mean, you need the money here, you take it? 588 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: Oh you need that? Well? Do you trust people? Well, 589 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm very trusting. How is Carrie like you? And how 590 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: it was Carrie like Eddie? Can you see the lines 591 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: that Well, Carrie was born with Eddie as the father, 592 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: and he was speed So Carrie was born was manic, depressive, bipolar. 593 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: So she will have that for the rest of her life. 594 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: And it's a dread disease. From him, Yes, from Eddie, 595 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: it was very sweet of him. Carrie has an illness 596 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: that is a severe problem over the whole world, and 597 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 1: they do not have any answers for you. She's taking 598 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 1: shock of treatments right now. It is a family's pain. 599 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: We all have it because we so want carry to 600 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: be well, and that's what we pray for all the time. 601 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: And she's so funny. Her daughter is divine and she 602 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: goes to school here in New York and she's the 603 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: most beautiful, young, smart, really smart, and uh, she's taking accounting, 604 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: so I think we'll be all right. Will come to 605 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: me for about money, and Carrie's going to be fine. 606 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: She's brilliant and she's a great writer. To carry it 607 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: from you? From me? What did you get from laughter? 608 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: If you could give people laughter, that would be the 609 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: ideal thing. I know this is going to sound really 610 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: cliched and kind of silly, but you know, you come 611 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: from such a great era of movie stardom. Your name 612 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: means something. When you say someone's name, you kind of 613 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: go okay. But your name, you say a certain kind 614 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 1: of a film. People automatically think, like the big Golden 615 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: age of Hollywood musicals and you and Kelly and all 616 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: these movies and Unsinkable Molly Brown and all these great films. 617 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: Even though people don't realize that you stopped making films. 618 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: I wrote this down. You stopped making films by and 619 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: large and around What's the Matter with Helen in seventy one, 620 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: and then from nineteen seventy one to six. According to 621 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: your biography, most of what you do is voiceovers or 622 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: retrospect the releases, like that's entertainment. You know, you don't 623 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: work a lot during that period in film. I just 624 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 1: do nightclubs. I work theater. I would do a club 625 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: act for forty two weeks a year every day. Where 626 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: would you go? Everywhere? Colorado to the country's sexist, Yes, Australia, England. 627 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: I did five a day in England. So came a 628 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 1: vout a villion for twenty years to make a living 629 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: for my children. And then and then you go and 630 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: do the movie with Albert Brooks? Yes I did. How 631 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: did he convince you to do that movie? No, Carrie 632 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: called me, she's a mother. I read a script Albert Brooks, 633 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: who they were very good friends, did, and it's so funny. 634 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: You have to do it. I said, well, you know, 635 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: nobody wants me for movies anymore. Dear, well, mother, I 636 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: want you to fly up here. I was in Vegas 637 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: and I owned a little hotel and I had a nightclub, 638 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: and I was happy as a hog in heaven. So 639 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: she said, well, no, I don't care, mother, you have 640 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: to fly. So I flew in and I met Albert 641 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: and I read a scene for him, and he said 642 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: to me, you've got it. And I said, what does 643 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 1: that mean, Albert? He said, well, you've got it. You 644 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: you've got the part, I said, Albert, I have to 645 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: meet the director. Oh I am the director, Debbie. Oh 646 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: I didn't know, Albert, I said, because you know I 647 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 1: know him since he's a young boy. And then I said, 648 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: well you have to see the producer. Then, dear, you 649 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 1: can't just suddenly hired Debbie. Well, yes I can. I'm 650 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: the producer. I'm the producer, I'm the director. I wrote it. 651 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 1: And yes, you're going to do I said, Albert, you'll 652 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: get into trouble. He said, no, you really are going 653 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 1: to get it now because you're bossing me. So now 654 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: you're just like my mother. So you've got the partner shore. 655 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: Can you eat lamb? Shops? What the hell is a lamb? 656 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: It's meat? I told you, I don't eat it. That's 657 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: not a cow. I didn't know if it was the animal. 658 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: You were siding with the whole it's the whole thing, 659 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: wasn't cheese. Albert was very sweet. He wanted Doris today, 660 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: but she just wouldn't do it because she would have 661 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: been terrific. But as we all know, Doris doesn't want 662 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: to go back on the screen, and I didn't want 663 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: to because I was in Vegas, and I was running 664 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: my hotel and I was having a lot of trouble 665 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,479 Speaker 1: with my husband and he wanted to, you know, take 666 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: over my business and throw me over the balcony. And 667 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: I was having a lot of problems. But I left 668 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: and I did the movie Mother, and I'm happy I did. 669 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: I think he made a lot of films and a 670 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: lot of TV shows since then. Will and Grace, why 671 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 1: did you play? Well? What do you mean? I played 672 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: Grace's mother. Were Grace's mom Adler? Her name was Adler, 673 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: and so as she sang a lot did impressions. It 674 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun to do. And the you 675 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: have you stopped the club actor? You still doing that? 676 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: You still know I still do my club act. I've 677 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: been under the weather for about four months, so I've 678 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: been kind of taking it easy and getting my health. Contestant, 679 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: you look fantastic. Well, you look gorgeous. You give me 680 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: me my birthday party. You look beautiful. Thank you, dear, 681 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: and I wish you all happened. Is with your new 682 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: wife and a baby, de camp, your life is all 683 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: ahead of you. I love my baby so much, and 684 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: even though they're all grown in your age, practically you know, 685 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: there's nothing like it. This is so special. I'm really 686 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: looking forward, you know when I think of you and 687 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: you being part of that, you know, great era of 688 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: studio filmmaking. Do you ever watch your stuff that you did? 689 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: You have to go back and watch those films you 690 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 1: don't bother. Well, some of the films. I watch everybody 691 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: else's films. Bettie Davis, so I loved her and Katherine Hepburnna. 692 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: Like when you watch a movie, you watch a movie 693 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: from back then. Oh, yes, I only watch all movies 694 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: you don't go to see. You don't exactly, So you 695 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: don't go see movies today, not really don't, not even 696 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: screeners from the Academy or DVDs at home. So if 697 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: someone tells me it's really wonderful, I'll go, Like Titanic, 698 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,919 Speaker 1: you'd watch or something. No I did go to see 699 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: You've been there? No I did that movie. No I 700 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: I just did a film with It was about Liberaci, 701 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: Behind the Candelabra, Michael Douglas, Michael Douglas and uh, that'll 702 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: be out soon. I played Mrs Liberacci because I like 703 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: to do di election and I knew Mrs Libaracci, and 704 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: I knew Lee we were working a now very good friend. Yes, 705 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: we were really dear friends. And he always called me 706 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: up after the show and we'd go out together and 707 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: he said, were white, all white Danby and your jewelry. 708 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: And then he'd arrived in the limousine with the chauffeur's 709 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: hat on and he'd drive me. I mean, he was 710 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 1: so much fun. I loved Liberacci was great. So I 711 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: did his mother? Howa Soderberg to work with? Did you 712 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: like Soderbergh? Oh, he was wonderful. The director was wonderful, 713 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: great director. I just had a little part, you know, 714 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 1: and she had a little parts. She was The Only 715 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: thing hard is dialected to be real, and you have 716 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: to do doone when you're doing the dialect is polish 717 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: and so you have to talk like really the really 718 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: one and to be unbelievable. Because I am very good 719 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: at dialects. I love to do them. You know what. 720 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: You know what's amazing to me is you still enjoy 721 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: doing this. You still love this? Yes, even though this 722 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: is something that you came into almost accidentally. You know, 723 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: you won the contest and you went over to Warner 724 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: Brothers said we want you to be in the movie business. 725 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: And you laughed when they said that. And yet here 726 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: you are when you were sixteen years old, and now 727 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: you're eighty one years old, sixty five years later. You 728 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: still enjoy doing this, don't you? Absolutely if you're blessed 729 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: enough to be able to have something to do that 730 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 1: you love. Besides marriages, I mean, that's the only thing 731 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: that's been a disappointment to me in my life. Honey, 732 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: you're looking at the man you should have married. Here, 733 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,439 Speaker 1: it's me here I am. I wouldn't have stolen your money, 734 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: will you? And I would be home right now watching 735 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: turn of classic movies, eating popcorn. I'll be giving you 736 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 1: a foot, rub. I have a wonderful life, I really do. 737 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: God bless everybody. I really am very Another thing you 738 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: have and you don't have to confirm us, but I 739 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: bet you I know another thing you have, which is 740 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 1: when you meet people you're fans. I bet you they 741 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: just love you. They're my friends. Are not my fans. 742 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: You know, everybody I meet, I just feel like I 743 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: know them sixty five years and they made me, they 744 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: gave me my work, and they stay by me all 745 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: these years. You know, I work in Vegas all the time, 746 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 1: and I work in Laughlin, which is called is right. Yeah, 747 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: anywhere there's a job I work. You enjoy doing it 748 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: live that way? How long is your show? Sure? The 749 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: whole act of our two hour and a half. An 750 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: hour and a half. I do a lot of comedy. Well, 751 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: I mean I try it to make it funny. Let 752 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: me end with this. Acting for me is very strange. 753 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: Now I'm kind of done with it, and I mean 754 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 1: I don't think I want to do it much longer. 755 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: And the world has changed now, as you well know, 756 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: it's very different. The way is that your phone? I 757 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 1: think it is your phone? Where is my isn't that odd? Yeah? 758 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 1: Where's my Oh? What you're listening to now is Dedie 759 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: Reynolds taking her phone out? It's my it's my son. Yes, 760 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: I'm calling from the valley, is now taking out all 761 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: the kuchma on her little Asian. But I don't I 762 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 1: can't find you can't find them. Let's find it. There, 763 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: it is there, it is well And this is this 764 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: is how my son was born nine pounds three ounces. 765 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: Took a long time to get it out out. I 766 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: was nine. Hello, good heavens, that's hard to find. Can 767 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: you say it again? Hello? Did I get you too late? 768 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: That's the story of my life, isn't It must be 769 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: a man. Well, I'm going to hang up now. I'm 770 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 1: visiting with Alec Baldwin. He's a big star. Yes, he's 771 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: in Broadway, lives in New York. Just got married again, 772 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: a young girl. They always pick them younger. Yeah, I 773 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: might as well. That's one thing that hasn't changed. Yeah, 774 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 1: then nothing is changed. Now. What I want to say 775 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 1: to you is I've been doing this and I wanted 776 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: to say I'd love to work with you one day. 777 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: I'd love anytime. I'd love to work with you one day. 778 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: If there's a movie and there's a partner for you 779 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: to play my crazy aunts when you come in, there 780 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,800 Speaker 1: would be fun to do the crazy ant or the 781 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: street lady or anybody like that. I like to do 782 00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: characters where I can fain. Debbie Reynolds has a new book, Unsinkable, 783 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: and she has a huge collection of Hollywood memorabilia that 784 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: you too can have a piece of. I'm selling it online, 785 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,720 Speaker 1: so Deynolds. Debbie mill studio store dot com. Debbie Reynolds 786 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: studio store dot com. You're selling of wonderful things. I'm 787 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: gonna go buy something on there. Okay, Charles Javelin's head, 788 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 1: how about that? Is any of your underwear for sale online? No, 789 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: but if you really want it, Babby, I'll give it 790 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: to you. We're done than branding there by. This is 791 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin and you're listening to here's the thing.