WEBVTT - Caelynn Joins the Suck Army! 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.960 Hell I suck at Dating with Dengler Dared Haven and 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:11.639 I heard radio podcast. Hey everybody, welcome to an all 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:14.520 new episode of help by such a Dating. I'm Jared Haven, 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.880 joined by Dean Anglert. Obviously you guys suck ar me. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:20.759 Thank you so much for tuning in this episode. We 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:24.720 have a very exciting episode coming up from Bachelor. Uh 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.640 you know her from Colton season, Elise del Bomb. Do 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.319 you think that's how you say a dean? I'm terrible names. 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:35.960 I didn't think that. I thought her last name was Michelle. Well, 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.080 you were way off on that one. We're gonna now 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:39.960 that I'm saying it out. Now that I'm saying it 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:43.040 out loud, I realized how stupid I am. But that's 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:45.479 what our Instagram thing is. It's a Elise Michelle, I 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:47.200 think is what it is on Instagram. Right. I found 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:49.000 that a lot of people put their middle name up there. 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:51.239 I don't know why, but a lot of people will 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.640 put their first middle name as their Instagram handle. So 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:55.800 we're gonna have to solve this mystery with at lease 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:59.400 later on. Um. We also have obviously some emails. We 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.840 have a day eating term that I need everybody to 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:06.160 focus and define, and then of course the big week 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.600 de Mario Johnson, who we talked to a couple of 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:14.280 weeks who is kind of dating are very lovely producer Becky, 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.319 and he's gonna becomeing to l a this week, which 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.120 means Dean and I get to grill Becky and give 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.160 her some date ideas of what they should do. I mean, 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.600 this is this is huge, This is big. I mean, 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:25.240 Becky's gonna go on a date with the Mario, the 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:27.040 guy that she met via Instagram because of help. I 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.959 suck at dating. I mean, we're just forming relationships one 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.920 podcast at a time. But we also have another big 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:37.319 guest calling in, don't we Jared? Uh? Do we? Well, 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:41.840 don't we have? Oh? Yeah, that's sorry, sorry, sorry, we 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.840 do have a big guest. Holy, I forgot about my 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:47.360 mother in law. All right, so apparently October is National 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.600 call your mother in law Day. I don't know. It 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:53.480 feels like a made up holiday. I gotta be honest. Oh, 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.320 Ashley wants me to joke about her my mother in 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.639 law's crush on Dean, which there is a massive crush. 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:01.680 I'm gonna be honest with you, Dean. She loves you, 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:03.560 She loves you very much. She loves your face, she 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.520 loves your personality, she loves Dean. I'll tell you she 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.160 loves you so much. I told the Suspender story the 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:13.880 other day. Listen to this. So, when we're posing for pictures, 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:17.640 apparently Audrey, my mother in law, feels super awkward taking pictures. 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.920 She always has, so she needs someone to try to 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:25.080 make her smile naturally. And the way we try to 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.799 do it, I'm not joking, this is a series. Right 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:33.240 before they take the picture, we say Dean, Dean, and 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:38.079 she likes smiles, and then that's how we do it. 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.519 It's there's two names, I swear to god, I'm not 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.359 even joking about this. There's two names that we yell 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:46.000 to make her smile naturally, Dean and Mark Wahlberg. So 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:47.840 it's the second one. Mark Wallburg. You're in good company, 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:51.600 Mark Walberg. I'll take Marky Mark. You ever see Marky 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:55.480 Marks Haynes at because that is peak Marky Mark. What's 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.720 funny is I even have this conversation today with one 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:01.040 of my friends. Uh. I can't remember what it was 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:06.200 exactly about, but I was like saying, like, I don't understand, uh, 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:10.040 why Audrey would even like I don't know. I just 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.600 it's so funny to me that she like likes me 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.919 even in my own eyes. I don't know exactly why, Dean, 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:18.800 you look like Jack Dawson. Uh is that a compliment? 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.079 I don't know who Jack Dawson is. That's from Titanic. Yeah, 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.680 that's Leon not or DiCaprio from Titanic. Yes, that's a compliment. 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:26.680 I'll take you. I do think that I've been steadily 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:28.560 declining for the past like five years, so maybe I'm 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.760 just like, uh, you know, I'm a little self conscious. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:33.720 But that's really good to hear, and I'm I'm excited 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.440 to hear from your step mom too. I'm probably gonna 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.520 take a step back while you have that conversation with her, 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.320 just so like you guys can kind of, you know, 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:42.840 have your national call your mother in law day. Uh. 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.800 The question for you should I call Kalin's mother because 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.840 she's like my mother in law, So should should we 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:52.680 give her a call to or No? I'm absolutely I 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.200 would love for Calin's mom to be on this podcast. 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.720 You know what's funny is I've been dating Calin. I 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.200 want to say for like what fifteen or six teen 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.480 months now, I don't think I've had a single converence. 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.200 I don't I've never met her mother. I've never had 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:08.640 a conversation with her. I I don't know. It's kind 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.200 of strange. I feel like, I mean, is she close 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:16.120 with her parents? Not to like she's not. She's not. 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.320 She's very close with her grandparents, so I like, I 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.200 I love her grandparents. They live in Las Vegas, and 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.520 we've seen them and spent quite a lot of time 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.719 with them. And she's definitely far, far closer uh with 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:28.680 her grandparents, and she is, but she obviously, you know, 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.159 it's her mom, so she loves her mom. But but yeah, 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.960 it's just kind of strange that I've never met her. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.000 But I do think that this is the year. I 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:39.599 think the thing is is her mother doesn't like to like, 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:44.880 she's like got this um diversion for her, I'm sorry, 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.240 a version for airplanes. She doesn't like to travel on airplanes. 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:49.200 And she lives all the way on the East Coast 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:51.560 and we just have never really killing and I've never 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:55.240 really been to the East Coast. But but her grandparents 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:56.880 are so close. But I just think that's kind of funny. 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.559 Speaking of the devil here she comes with the plate 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.880 pizza of pizza. She got a pizza for me. I 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:04.400 was just telling them how it's kind of funny how 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:08.880 we've been dating for what sixteen months and today seven years, 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:12.760 and today is call your mother in law day. Jared 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.600 called his mother in law Ashley's mom, and I was 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.000 just thinking, it's funny. I don't think I've ever even 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:21.240 had a conversation with your mother. Yes, we've had a 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.880 brief FaceTime conversation. But I was telling them that she's 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:26.599 got like this aversion to flying, and she doesn't like 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.440 to travel very much, so that's why she's like all 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:30.680 stuck on the East coast. Do you want to come 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:31.880 in and say hi to everyone? I feel like I 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:33.560 don't even think Calin has been on this podcast yet, 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:37.400 but she's been on the Pocket time was over here. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.960 Do you know my mom's name? Yes, here's Klin, say 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.320 hi to everyone, Calin. Caitlin asked if I know her 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.520 mother's name. Yes, I know her mother. Your mother's name 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:52.280 is Jalia, she said, the first time that Calin said 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:56.520 her mom's name, Jaliah jay Leah, I was like, that 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:58.720 is not her humans name, and her last name is 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.320 Kim nicky. So he was like, you just made that up. Yeah, 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.040 all right. Well, while we have Calin here, I have 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.920 I have a lot of questions for Calin. So uh klin, 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:11.640 what is the most annoying thing Dean does? Um? And 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.479 if you have a list, feel free to talk as 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:18.960 long as you need. I got a little frustrated with 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.440 him because his time management skills are not the best. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:28.360 Sometimes he likes sometimes he likes stick golf or play 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:30.400 video games and not do the things that he needs 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.560 to do. And I'm like, well, prioritize the things that 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.240 you need to get done and then you can have 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.240 your fun time. Yeah. The funny thing, the ironic thing 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:42.880 is I was twenty late to record. I would say 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:44.560 I would agree with that. I would say if I 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.159 were there was this, uh this Instagram quote I saw 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:48.760 the other day. It's like, be the person that you 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:50.600 want to be best friends with, Like if you like 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:52.960 look at yourself from like another perspective, like would you 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.360 be friends with yourself? And I always think about that, 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:57.919 and I've been like acting more consciously to be friends, 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.240 to like be confident that the person that I see 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.279 it myself as would be my friend. And I always 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.240 think about how piste off I would be if one 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.159 of my friends, or like if I was another person 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.720 and me Dean was always late to the things that 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.560 we had planned, and it's very I would be frustrated, 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.760 and I get that. It's like one of those things. 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.480 You know. What's funny, though, is that you always make 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.520 up for it. Like here's the thing. We talked about 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.160 this on the podcast last week. It's impossible to be 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.960 mad at you, Dean and Caitlin, I want to ask you, 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.600 have you do you find yourself being in the same 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.560 scenario where Dean will do something stupid and you want 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.200 to be so mad at him, but for some reason 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:43.160 it's impossible. Yes. No, it's so frustrating and it's funny. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.560 So we're in the Maldives. There is a guy kind 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.840 of like in charge of our schedule, and Dean was 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.480 always late, and he was like, I just don't understand 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.840 this guy. Like he's late for scuba diving. Everyone's mad 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:54.440 at him, and he gets off the boat and everyone's 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.560 best friends with him. Like even the guy in the 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.800 Maldives was like, this guy is impossible to be mad at. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:01.760 It was funny that we I went scuba diving and 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.480 I showed up like ten minutes late to the boat, 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:05.280 like the charter boat that we were like leaving on, 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.880 and everyone was like super piste off at me. But 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.240 then like when we got back, they were all like, oh, 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.560 let's stay in touch and let's come scuba diving with 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.600 this tomorrow. I don't know. It's kind of funny, I guess, 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:17.600 But as much as I would love for us to 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:19.760 just sit here and talk about all my shortcomings, I 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.080 do think that we need to bring in art. You 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.160 have a charm to you that's like people can't get 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:25.800 mad at you because you're so charming and you're so 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:27.760 sweet and you're so I think it's I think it's 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:31.360 because you all. Honestly, I think you just like Dean, 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:35.400 you have this kind of this is gonna be sound weird, 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:39.120 but you you're kind of like a dog. Yeah, he's 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.120 like a little puppy you can't get mad at. But 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:44.960 also because like like I I look at Lois and 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:50.040 she's just like happy and full of love and positive 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.440 and her tails always wagging, and you're like, I can't 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:55.400 be mad at you because you're just so sweet and 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.040 like as weird is this is going to sound to 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.280 describe you like that that's similar to you, Like even 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:01.880 when you walk in fifteen minutes late, you have a 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:03.839 huge smile on your face and you're like, God, it's 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:05.559 good to hear your voices. And I know you're doing 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:06.880 it to suck up because you don't want us to 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:08.800 be mad at you, but it works. And I also 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:12.160 know that it's like coming from it's also coming from 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.760 like a place of of authenticity, like there's nothing fake 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:19.800 about you. And I think your your overall vibe, positivity 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:23.600 and happiness really just it shines, and uh, I think 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:25.360 that's why nobody can get mad at you, including your 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.480 your girlfriend. Listen, guys, I would love for rest all 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:29.920 sit here and have my horn beto over and over again, 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.720 but we do have to move on. Unfortunately, we can 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:36.480 get back to the the praise and the affection later on. 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.600 I honestly could talk about your guy's relationships all podcasts 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.600 like Kitlin. I need you to come on because I 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.000 need to just talk to both you guys, because I 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.199 find you guys fascinating. One year a beautiful couple. You 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.480 guys are super happy, but like I, I find your 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:54.080 relationship fascinating and it's awesome. We're the couple that shouldn't work, 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.200 but we work. It's weird. We like to We like 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:59.680 to keep the enigmatic persona. You know, we don't do 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.680 many joining interviews. Kaitlin ever comes on the podcast. I 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.200 don't like to be in her YouTube videos, et cetera. 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:09.079 We like to keep it enigmatic. But we are gonna 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:10.640 we're gonna take one quick break and then we're gonna 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.960 get to Elise, which I think she's sure calling in 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.880 right now. There she is. Um, we're gonna take one 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.120 quick break and we're gonna jump into our bit with 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:32.480 Elise to check in with her and see how she's doing. Hey, 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.360 welcome back to help. I saw at dating. I just 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.320 that just felt right, you know, coming from the gut, 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.679 coming from the soul. We have a very special guests. 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.920 You of course know her from Colden season of The Bachelor, 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.880 where she famously left the show on her own terms, 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.120 and early she was a fan favorite. A lot of 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.040 people thought that she was going to be the bachelorette. 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.559 It is Elise Dell Bomb. Elise, thank you so much 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.200 for joining us. How are you? Yes, thank you. I 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:58.280 feel like this is an appropriate podcast for me to 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.280 be on because I think I might suck a day too. 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.560 Why do you think you stuck at dating? Let's start there. Well, 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.080 I mean, if you can hear a cat in the 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:09.080 background and being thirty three, I might just be turning 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:12.520 into an old cat lady. By bachelor standards, how many 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:17.160 cats you have? Just one? Oh, that's not bad, You're fine, 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.280 It's not bad. I think once you reach over seven 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.559 is when it becomes an issue. But as long as 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:25.800 you have less than that, you're fine. No. I have 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:29.680 one very high maintenance cat, and I think I'm I 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.800 think I'm not gonna add that cat lady to my 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.000 profile and each time soon by having seven of them. No, 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.079 but it's definitely coming at least. I do have a 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.599 question for you. So Jared's saying that you left on 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.720 your own accord on Colton season, refresh my memory because 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.440 I do remember that moment, and I know it's been 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.439 what it's been a year and a half or however 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:49.839 long it's been since you were on the Bachelor, but 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:53.160 I do, Uh, I want to like relive that scenario 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:55.640 real quick with here. That's okay, sure, I put on 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:03.880 really overly dressed out fit and uh marched my ass 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:07.880 over to his room and said goodbye, and it was 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:11.480 obviously it played out quite dramatically because you know, it's 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.360 two in the morning in Thailand and we're all in 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:17.760 seventeen hours of time change. But um, it just wasn't. 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.240 He wasn't the person for me, and I knew that. 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:24.040 And as much as you know, going to Vietnam would 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:25.959 have been fun, it was just my time to go. 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:31.360 Did you asked? Did you get asked? Did you paradise? Um? I? Originally, 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:33.280 I think when I left the show they were pretty 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:38.280 much aware that, um, I might not be open to it. 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.839 But then, um, you know, as time goes on, you 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:43.679 kind of think, well, maybe you know, I don't want 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.319 to like say no to an opportunity. So we talked 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.280 about it. But by the time we got my like 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:53.040 testing and all that stuff done, everyone had pretty much 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.960 coupled up. We decided probably wasn't. Would you would you 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.280 go on paradise like next year? If there is one? 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:02.600 I'll tell you what, sure, because at least Claire's guys 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:08.240 our age appropriate. Sure? Is that what your main hesitation 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:12.160 was going into it? Last time? Was the younger that 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.440 was you know, I shouldn't say a hundred percent, but 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.560 that was a huge part of it. I don't think 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.560 it doesn't necessarily matter what age you are. It's all 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.320 about like life experience and lessons you've learned. But I 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.360 think I've lived a lot of life in thirty three 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.560 years where I just could not imagine myself like being 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:35.400 seriously interested in year old. Yeah, no, I agree sometimes, 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:36.680 Like you know that she has gotten a little bit 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.760 of a backlash for going younger, and obviously now we're 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.000 going older with with with Claire, not older Claire still 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.840 very young obviously, but you know what I'm talking about. Um, 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.800 I hope you go on Paradise because actually Ashley's behind 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.840 her right now. But we were talking about you last 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.200 night because you were coming on the podcast, and we 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:58.439 both agreed that you were so Um it's weird to say, 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:02.520 like you're under utilized in the Bachelor franchise, but you're beautiful, 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:06.120 you have your together, Uh, you know, you're you're ready. 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.520 Like it's like you were on Colton season. You left 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.560 early and everybody wanted to see you on Paradise and 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.160 people were calling for you to be the next bachelorrete 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.400 because they loved how you left, and really, you know, 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.679 stood your ground and said exactly what you wanted, and 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.160 so I think you'd be perfect for Paradise, Like you'd 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.440 be the perfect person to come. Like halfway through, we're like, 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:25.320 I know this is not what you want, and I'm sorry, 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.120 but like I'm thinking like a producer now where you 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:30.160 come halfway through, people are already started coupling up, and 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:31.880 it's like, oh, that's a least, that's the least, And 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.280 then like you're the temptation that they throw towards guys. 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:38.080 I mean, hopefully you're their day one, but well you know, 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.360 they have a lot of girls to choose from since 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.440 they didn't get to do it this year. So we'll see. 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.760 But I tell you, I am have always been very 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:51.440 comfortable when I'm single, except this year COVID when you 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:55.320 are isolated, because I love alone. I mean, board games 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.520 are pretty boring when you're playing them by yourself and 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.600 you're stuck at home for a few months at a time. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.520 So at this point, I mean, get me on a beach. 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:08.880 Just talking to people sounds thrilling. Well, at least, let's 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:12.000 be real. You don't live alone. You've got a cat, right, 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.360 but there's certain you know things, but that cuddle session 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.760 only goes so far. Yeah, I mean, I hear you. 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:20.320 I cuddle with my dog Lois all the time, but 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.880 sometimes I need sometimes I like being small spoon. I'm 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.040 gonna be honest, I feel like a real man amidst 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.240 that I need Ashley to hold me. Sometimes I hold 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:31.600 her too. We'll allow it. Um, So, what has dating 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.920 been like for you in during COVID? You know, like 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:36.720 you said, you're single. There's a lot of people who 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.880 are dealing with dating right now during these crazy times. 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.560 What it's been Has it been like for you? It's 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:46.240 been almost non existent. I I did develop a little 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:51.240 quarantine crush that quickly played itself out, and it was 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.960 if I'm being completely honest, it would not have worked 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.240 in a normal situation, But because he was just so 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.680 fun to talk to, he was a lovely distraction and 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.800 it was fun to have, you know, something to look 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:07.840 forward to if FaceTime date. But you know, had we 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.480 been it probably went a little bit longer than it 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.200 would have if we were actually in a regular dating scenario. 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.400 But I think there's something to be said that's positive 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.960 about um. You know, we kind of live in an 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:23.560 overly sexualized world. Let's just be honest, and there's nothing 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.840 wrong with that. However, I think there's something to be 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:30.560 said that people are making connections like online and having 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:34.160 to really establish some communication and try to find more 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.920 creative ways than just you know, swiping right and going 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.520 out to coffee or drinks and seeing what happens. You 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.600 actually have to get to know someone when you can't 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:45.400 see them. So I think there's positives to it. But 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.120 for me, it's been this has been a really really 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:53.160 challenging year personally. My career was has basically been non 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:57.320 existent since it started. So it's been a year of 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:01.560 day by day and some times that my focus is 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:03.480 not so much on dating when I'm just trying to 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:06.560 figure out my next step when god, we don't ever 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.200 know what our next step is in this there, No, 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.280 it's so crazy. Now you're a business owner, I mean, 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.640 you own a company called Glamour Grass LLC. So tell 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:17.199 us a little bit about that, and I'm assuming that's 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.600 what you're talking about during COVID right now, and how 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.480 it's you know, struggling. Absolutely not the business I don't 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.280 want to say this buzzes struggling, But for every business 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.359 owner right now, we can absolutely say I've been a 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:33.040 makeup artist for UM a little over twelve years. And 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:36.880 then I also teach, and obviously school is shut down 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.640 and makeup, you know, we do a lot of freelance 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.359 for special events, weddings, things of that nature, and those 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.720 those just aren't happening. And then my online business is 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.800 teaching in one on one makeup lessons, kind of picking 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:53.720 up where I think YouTube leaves off, where there's you know, 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:58.080 makeup gurus, UM, but really teaching individual for that person, 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.480 skin type, tone, texture, age, all of that. And I 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.119 love it. I absolutely love it. But I've had to 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.359 go back to Barton and just to have something that 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.600 gives me peace of mind of I know I can 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:12.560 pay my bills when when things have been constantly changing 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:14.560 this year. What do you mean by bartender because you 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.360 live in Arizona, YESA maybe they're just like a little 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:18.919 bit more lax, because when I imagine bartending in like 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:21.680 Los Angeles, for instance, I don't know if I've even 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.840 seen a bartender for the past. And I'm working inside 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:29.200 of a hotel, and so because it's a hotel, they 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:33.359 are open, right, so they have you know, very strict regulations. 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.240 But the company is privately owned, and they've just been 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:39.960 amazing to work for and really helped out their staff 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.600 during this time. Even myself, who came on right before 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:47.320 the lockdown. Yeah, I barted him for many years of 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:49.480 my life. I have I have some friends who are 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.080 small business owners as well, Like Peter from my season Is, 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:56.199 he owns a small gym in Wisconsin, and he was 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:58.480 like saying his business was so new that he is 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:02.600 having trouble, Like, Uh, it's just such a time to 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.280 be a small business owner, like, especially like obviously with 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:06.840 COVID and all that kind of stuff going on, especially 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.679 when it's like hands on, like at least like yours 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:11.760 is obviously have to like be in people's faces and 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.960 like working with people directly all the time. Uh, It's 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.800 just it's I'm yeah, I definitely feel for you guys well, 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:19.840 and I don't want it to sound like a paper 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:21.880 because we're all going through it at some level, whether 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:25.040 it's impact to do personally or professionally or both. We've 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:31.720 all I mean to all of us. Yeah, huh, it's crazy. 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.600 Well that that just means everybody go to glamor Grass 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.879 right now. If you're looking for for any type of makeup. 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:41.720 I saw the link is in your bio correct alright, 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:43.800 so go to Elisa's Instagram right now. If you're listening 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:45.399 to this podcast and you don't follow, at least, I'm 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:46.919 not sure what you're doing with your life, So go 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.160 follow it right now. Go click the link in or bio, 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.520 go to glamor grass buy some makeup because we all 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:52.879 you know I'm going to need to make up to 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:54.520 Let's be honest, like I got the light on me 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.840 right now, I could use some um. But at least 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.159