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Speaker 1: new names and the new faces. It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: episode eight sixty two, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Buda Baker, What Heart?

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Speaker 4: What rent?

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Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of

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Speaker 3: He's a a ten half of five. He's it again,

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Speaker 3: so more hurry magic.

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Speaker 1: WHOA, here's Craig Graeler. So burd Gang really fortunate to

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals official YouTube channel. You know that Zach's

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Speaker 1: This is some deep background material here on Zach Kershman,

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Speaker 1: like it's anything new that is true. Cover two is

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, Matt talked talked a little bit. I mean

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Speaker 3: The fans here the Bird Gang are going to get

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Speaker 5: I mean people, they constantly reminded me of the play

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Speaker 3: So when you get off of YouTube, you better head

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Speaker 4: Keem, Welcome to the vatum man Man.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having so that last part there with ADG.

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Speaker 1: As far as the play that you asked him about

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Speaker 3: I might need to say that sometimes. But you're right.

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Speaker 1: Picked off Patrick Mahomes. Week three, Chiefs won the game

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Speaker 1: I don't think even if he does play more defensive

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Speaker 3: He was also a team captain with Cincinnati Bengals three

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Speaker 3: We need a big time, big body player to you know,

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Speaker 1: Arguably, what's two best seasons twenty twenty one twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: But some great group wh we addressed joshwat we also

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Speaker 6: So even more than just winning, it was more of

437
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Speaker 6: the whole seven year thing for being here now. I

438
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Speaker 6: think that's what prepared me for this.

439
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Speaker 3: But it's even longer than seven years. I mean your journey.

440
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Speaker 3: You went from being somebody that was told you might

441
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Speaker 3: now I ever play football again, potentially having your leg amputated,

442
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Speaker 3: to a super Bowl champion, to now an Arizona Cardinal.

443
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Speaker 3: I know, free agency is normally a time where a

444
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Speaker 3: lot of people reflect on their journeys. When you when

445
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden done with your time here in

446
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Speaker 3: the valley, what do you hope your legacy is going

447
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Speaker 3: to be?

448
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Speaker 6: Damn, that's a hard one to go through, man, I

449
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Speaker 6: don't know. I couldn't even tell you. I mean, hopefully

450
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 6: is extremely positive and hopefully we can win a lot

451
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Speaker 6: of games. Man, That's what I'm That's what I'm used

452
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Speaker 6: to and I'm ultimately that's what I want to do

453
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Speaker 6: and maybe we can get them. You know, the big one.

454
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Speaker 1: Full interview that you Zach did with Joshua is up

455
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Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals YouTube page, and again it's team first,

456
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Speaker 1: and the fact that listening to your conversation and hearing

457
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Speaker 1: josh say, hey, he is coming in and looking to

458
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Speaker 1: be a mentor and looking to be a leader, kind

459
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Speaker 1: of pay it forward, do what others did for him

460
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Speaker 1: when he was younger in Philadelphia coming now to Arizona.

461
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Speaker 1: He is the big man on campus, if you will,

462
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Speaker 1: and can lend a hand to everyone else.

463
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Speaker 3: I'm not here to read into somebody's body language or

464
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Speaker 3: the way that they talk talk a certain type of way,

465
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Speaker 3: but I'm going to do that a little bit with

466
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Speaker 3: my untrained eye and try to speak it out there.

467
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Speaker 3: When I asked John, when I asked josh Swett about

468
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Speaker 3: what he hopes for his legacy to be with the

469
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Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals, if just for himself when he gets to

470
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Speaker 3: look down the line considering his journey being somebody that

471
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Speaker 3: went from potentially having his leg amputating in high school

472
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Speaker 3: after a freak accident to becoming a Super Bowl champion

473
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Speaker 3: with the Philadelphia Eagles, And I asked him, what does

474
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Speaker 3: he hope his journey's going to be and his and

475
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Speaker 3: his legacy is going to become and he couldn't put

476
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Speaker 3: it into words. But when you ask him about his teammates,

477
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Speaker 3: even though he has only been teammates with him for

478
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Speaker 3: just a little bit of time, had no problems complimenting them,

479
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Speaker 3: talking about how he plans to elevate the group, how

480
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Speaker 3: to make everybody else around them better. The confidence, as

481
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Speaker 3: I mentioned with Jonathan Gannon and Nick rolis for bringing

482
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Speaker 3: in the right players and also for putting them in

483
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Speaker 3: the best positions. So I think that that says something

484
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Speaker 3: about Josh Sweat, his comfort and the ability to talk

485
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Speaker 3: about his teammates in that way. I will say today,

486
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Speaker 3: which is Tuesday as of this recording, we know that

487
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Speaker 3: Brandon Graham announced his retirement and during his retirement press conference,

488
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Speaker 3: he was talking about being that veteran mentor to Josh

489
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Speaker 3: Sweat and he said, Josh Wett, this year, I told him, Hey,

490
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Speaker 3: this team, it's your room. I'm just here to watch

491
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Speaker 3: over it offer any advice that I'm able to do.

492
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Speaker 3: But as of right now, this is your room. You're

493
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Speaker 3: the old guy in this building. And what ends up happening,

494
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: Josh Wett takes that unit and they end up winning

495
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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. So if you're a Cardinals fan and

496
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Speaker 3: you listen to Brandon Graham's press conference, that should be

497
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Speaker 3: very encouraging.

498
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Speaker 1: Twenty eight years old talking about Josh Sweat, and I

499
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Speaker 1: do like the fact that again he's coming in for

500
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Speaker 1: a reason that's to get after opposing quarterbacks. You get

501
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Speaker 1: at the same time, what can he do for a

502
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Speaker 1: knock On Wood, healthy bj Ojulari, Xavin Collins, Baron Brownie,

503
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Speaker 1: Xavier Thomas, whomever else they might add with a draft pick,

504
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Yeah, there's gonna be a

505
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Speaker 1: lot of tension on Josh Wett, but I think everyone

506
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Speaker 1: else in that room can have their games elevated based

507
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Speaker 1: off just simply his presence on the football field.

508
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Speaker 3: Of course, the unit is totally different because you have

509
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Speaker 3: Dalvin Tomlinson in the middle, You're gonna have a healthy

510
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 3: Darius Robinson in the middle, and the interior defensive line

511
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Speaker 3: you're gonna hopefully have Justin Jones of Belal Nichols showing

512
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Speaker 3: what they were brought here to do. And then you

513
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 3: have to worry about the guys on the edge. And

514
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Speaker 3: if you're so worried about what Josh Sweats bringing to

515
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Speaker 3: the table, Well, Baron Browning is on the opposite side,

516
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 3: and we know about his athleticism. There's a reason why

517
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: the Cardinals decided to bring him back. Also, Zavian Collins

518
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 3: another year in the position, and you mentioned bjo Julari

519
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 3: hopefully going to be healthy coming into this season after

520
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 3: that ACL injury. It's a very different outlook compared to

521
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Speaker 3: where we started in the offseason, where you didn't know

522
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Speaker 3: what you were gonna be getting. You didn't know if

523
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Speaker 3: you were bringing back Baron Browning, you didn't know how

524
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Speaker 3: the Cardinals were going to address the edge rusher room

525
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: during free agency or during the draft, and what that

526
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Speaker 3: was going to look like for the interior defensive line.

527
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 3: Now you could say, all right, the Cardinals invested in

528
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Speaker 3: the room, They recognized that there were areas that they

529
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: needed to improve on. They signed those guys. Now they

530
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Speaker 3: need to deliver.

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Speaker 1: First, box checked Josh Wet a four year contract. Second

532
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Speaker 1: box checked Dovin Tomlinson with a two year deal to

533
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Speaker 1: address the middle of that interior of the defensive line,

534
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Speaker 1: someone who does not have a immediate connection with Jonathan Gannon.

535
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Speaker 1: Yet at the same time talked very highly of JG

536
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Speaker 1: as part of your conversation and this little snippet from

537
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Speaker 1: your interview on the Arizona Cardinals official YouTube channel, playing

538
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Speaker 1: for a defensive minded head coach. How having someone like

539
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Speaker 1: that to use your word, Zach unlock his skill sets?

540
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I feel like he has a different perspective

541
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 4: almost of if I was back in Alabama with coch

542
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 4: Saban has a different perspective of the defensive on up

543
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 4: front and just be able to see other things what

544
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Speaker 4: I need to work on and probably have a different

545
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 4: way to work on those in particular things.

546
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Speaker 3: Speaking of Alabama, I think we could possibly call this

547
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 3: the Alabama Cardinals now with you Mac Wilson, senior, Jodah Williams.

548
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: How do those relationships help you as you transitioned in

549
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Speaker 3: this new chapter.

550
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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm back in college with Mech like

551
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Speaker 4: my senior year, and he can help me transition in

552
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Speaker 4: with the defense just moving out here and stuff like that.

553
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Speaker 4: And I know he's super excited to get some extra

554
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 4: alarm and off of them so he can make some

555
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Speaker 4: more plays.

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Speaker 3: I saw on Twitter when it was announced that you

557
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Speaker 3: were going to be joining the Arizona Cardinals, a clip

558
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: was floating around of you talking to Evan Brown, the

559
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Speaker 3: Cardinals left guard, and it was during when you were

560
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 3: in Cleveland. He was in Seattle, and you said to them, man,

561
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Speaker 3: it feels like I play you every single year. Now

562
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Speaker 3: you're going to be sharing the practice field with him

563
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Speaker 3: every single day. Basically, how can you help the offensive

564
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Speaker 3: line and how can they also help you as you

565
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Speaker 3: practiced and try to make each other better.

566
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Speaker 4: H Yeah, just like with Evan. I We've been practicing

567
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 4: each other against each other since York. It's crazy with

568
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 4: the Giants. And yeah, just like we iron sharpens iron,

569
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 4: you know, we go to practice. We're all trying to

570
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Speaker 4: get better at the practice we have sitting in the

571
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Speaker 4: locker room. I sit in a locker room with the

572
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Speaker 4: offensealm and go through things I may see. I may

573
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Speaker 4: be a flow or something. You give up this when

574
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 4: you're about to pool, and just small things like that,

575
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Speaker 4: and I go a long way when this game did.

576
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Speaker 3: In the coming weeks and months, the Bird game is

577
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 3: gonna get to know you. But I was doing some research.

578
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: You're an avid video gamer, you are an artist, You're

579
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Speaker 3: a major sneaker head. So we're gonna do a start

580
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Speaker 3: stick cut out of those three hobbies. Which one are

581
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 3: you starting? Which one are you sitting? Which one are

582
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Speaker 3: you cutting?

583
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Speaker 4: Always gonna start video games? Uh, that's tough. Definitely gonna

584
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 4: probably cut sneaker heads. I got enough shoes. Yeah, what's

585
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 4: your favorite sneaker? They have favorite one, probably the Strange

586
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 4: Love Dunks, well not Dunks but Sb's but uh or

587
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: the Ben and Jerry Dunks, those two, the Chunky ones Donkeys.

588
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got you.

589
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: There a very unique weight in that interview. There zech

590
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: something that I had not thought about, but yeah, start, sit, cut,

591
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: and Dom made it very clear, always going to start

592
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: video games. Also likes to draw as well, but he

593
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: was admitted sneakerhead, yet he would cut sneakers if given

594
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Speaker 1: the choice, based off his level of interest in everything

595
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Speaker 1: that he Maybe it's.

596
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Speaker 3: Because he probably spends so much money on these sneakers.

597
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 3: My brother's a sneakerhead, which is why I knew about

598
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Speaker 3: the Chunky Donkeys even being a sneaker of choice. When

599
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: he talked about the Ben and Jerry's that those sneakers

600
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Speaker 3: cost a lot of money. Now with this new contract,

601
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: I don't think that's going to be He might go

602
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 3: right back into sneakerhead and say all right. I apologize

603
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: for offending you my boxes of sneakers during this interview,

604
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: but I will go reward you by buying a new

605
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: new pair. I'm not sure, but what a fun guy

606
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Speaker 3: to speak with.

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Speaker 1: The other part of this interview that you brought up,

608
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Speaker 1: and something that you found was the miked up segment

609
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson and the snippet with Dalvin and Evan Brown

610
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Speaker 1: and Dalvin's response about iron sharpens iron that now, all

611
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, I heard that. I watched it again

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals YouTube channel.

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00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: I watched it.

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00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: I heard it now all of a sudden, I'm excited

615
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: for training camp and the one on one pass rush

616
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Speaker 1: moves because now all of a sudden, it's let me

617
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Speaker 1: go see Evan Brown against Dalvin Tomlinson. They've been on

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Speaker 1: the field as competitors as on different sides. Now all

619
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, they're gonna be teammates. But there's still

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Speaker 1: that competition in training camp and even during practices during

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Speaker 1: the week. But now I'm very excited to see what happens.

622
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Speaker 1: And again with a yell to Froholt, and we'll see

623
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Speaker 1: what happens on the other side. As far as who's

624
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: the right guard if that's Isaiah Adams, but that battle

625
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Speaker 1: because they do think Dalvin we asked him on Cardinals

626
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Speaker 1: Cover two, Paul and I had a chance as far

627
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Speaker 1: as he always has a smile on his face always,

628
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: But does something changed when he steps between the lines

629
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Speaker 1: and he goes, well, maybe there's a light that goes on.

630
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: Yet he's always having fun. But again, that's Evan Brown

631
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Speaker 1: versus Dalvin Tomlinson. That's gonna be something to watch come

632
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Speaker 1: training camp, of.

633
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Speaker 3: Course, and knowing that they have so much experience, and

634
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: in the clip, Evan Brown walks up to Dalvin and says,

635
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Speaker 3: I feel like I play against you every single year,

636
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Speaker 3: and then at the end of the game, Dalvin comes

637
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: up to him and goes, every year, man, and I

638
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: think these football players, their IQ and their memory is impressive.

639
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 3: It's second to none. So when they go against the

640
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: player as frequently as that, it's essentially a division opponent.

641
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: With the way that they were talking about one another,

642
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: even though Cleveland and Seattle aren't even in the same conference.

643
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Speaker 3: But I wanted to talk about that with Dalvin because

644
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: it could make one another better. Dalvin knows how to

645
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: get by Evan Brown. Evan Brown knows how to try

646
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: to stop Dalvin Tomlinson. That is only going to make

647
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: each other better. And when you are practicing against one

648
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: another during training camp, you start to pick up on

649
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: each other's tendencies a little bit more. This is totally

650
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: different because they have prior experience of playing against each

651
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: other in between the white lines. When it's a win,

652
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: a win and a loss matters to a team. So

653
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: he mentioned the iron sharpens iron. He talked about what

654
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: he's able to do for the offensive line and vice

655
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: versa training camp is it's gonna be a fun battle

656
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: at that position.

657
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: He also brought up that sometimes he'll sit with offensive

658
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: lineman and I don't know if that's again after practice

659
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: or he's going into meeting rooms or whatever. But again

660
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: you're talking about another voice, and there sometimes too many

661
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: voices can spoil things and make your head spin. But

662
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: in this case, I do think it's a different vantage

663
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: point versus a coach telling you, whether that's Justin Fry

664
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: or coach Deebo. And now all of a sudden you've

665
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: got Dalvin coming in and it's more of a collaboration. Hey,

666
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: you guys are doing this this is great. I'm still

667
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what you're doing because I can't

668
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: get by ords. You know what, You're dipping your shoulder

669
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: or your feet. You're off balance a little bit. Now,

670
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's peer to peer versus. A

671
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: coach pointed it out on film.

672
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: When Dennis Gardek was becoming more of a not just

673
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: a rotational piece, but started to see an increase in

674
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: snaps at the outside linebacker position. I remember doing an

675
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: article during the twenty twenty three season about Dennis Gardeck

676
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: and how he was still learning and growing, and he

677
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: mentioned how he would sit down with DJ Humphries and

678
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: hump and him would go over to certain hand motions,

679
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 3: the hand placement that would take place after practice. And

680
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: you start to see that trickle down to the following

681
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: year when Zavon Collins is working with Paris Johnson, when

682
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: zaven Collins is also teaching Darius Robinson about certain things

683
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: when it comes to pass rushing. So when it comes

684
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: to this roster, it's a bunch of humble guys, it's

685
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: a bunch of team first guys. You want to be

686
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: able to keep the tricks to yourself because you want

687
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: to be able to show your coaching staff, hey look

688
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: at me. I'm able to get by by using this

689
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 3: power move or this finesse move. But when everybody is

690
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: in alignment, and everybody is working to make one another better,

691
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: you're a collective team, and a connected team is a

692
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: dangerous team.

693
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: I've heard that before. I know you've been in town

694
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: long enough to now all of a sudden change sides

695
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: perhaps and go from the Phillies to the Diamondbacks.

696
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: I like that, I know a little bit. But I'm

697
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: still rocking with the Phillies. I was still in Tampa

698
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: last week or two weeks ago, so I still love

699
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: my Phillies. By the way, I do root for the

700
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 3: Diamondback success. You have to root for the home team,

701
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: the local teams. Of course, I love watching as you

702
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 3: do great in hockey. That is spectacular. I'm upset that

703
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: ASU basketball isn't in March madness, you know. But there's

704
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 3: one thing I am happy about is that the Cardinals

705
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 3: are looking better.

706
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: Yes, especially on defense with the additions and the one

707
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: two punch of Josh What and Dalvin Tomlinson.

708
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: But the Suns, though, that's a lost cause. Regardless if

709
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: I'm a sixers or a Suns fan.

710
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: Don't sidetracked us here on Cardinals cover too, that's not

711
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: a good idea. The one other player that you spoke

712
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: to free agent addition, Jacoby Brissett quarterback. Now here's someone

713
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: that I'm very high on. Yeah, at the same time,

714
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: and I said it earlier. I said it earlier this

715
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: week on the Red Seat Report. I hope Jacobe never

716
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: sees the football field during a game in the regular season,

717
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: preseason by all means, or if he's out there because

718
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 1: you need to hold on something or whatever. But here's

719
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: someone that you hope never starts a ball game, because

720
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: if he's starting, that means Kyler Murray is not and

721
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: he's hurt. So but you need that plan B. And

722
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: I think this is a solid plan B for quarterbacks.

723
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: Unless it's Week eighteen in the.

724
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: That's a good one. I not thought about that because

725
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: we did see a handful of teams go to their

726
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 1: backup Kansas City Chiefs. Yep, okay, all right, that's fair.

727
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 3: So I would hope in that case we're able to

728
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: see Jacoby. But regardless, you want to be able to

729
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: have that confidence that if for some reason, Kyler Murray's

730
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: not available, who's going to take over? And Clayton Tune

731
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: is still learning the position, He's still learning the speed

732
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 3: of the game. You want somebody that's more experience at

733
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 3: that role, and Jacoby Brissett is one of the top

734
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 3: backups in the game. Started the last season with the

735
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 3: New England Patriots. Was kind of that bridge quarterback for

736
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: Drake May. But still you knew that if for some

737
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 3: reason Drake May was not available to play, you have

738
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 3: confidence and if you were in New England that Jacoby

739
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 3: Brisset what he was able to bring during his second

740
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: stint in New England. He's had multiple different stops. He's

741
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: played in the same quarterback room as Tom Brady and

742
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: Andrew Locke and Philip Rivers and Tua and a lot

743
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 3: of others. So he knows what it takes to be

744
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: a great quarterback at the position. He's just he's not

745
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: Tom Brady, which is which is fair to say, very

746
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: few people are still. Jacoby comes in and he's automatically

747
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: upgrades that room and brings everybody up around them.

748
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: Fifty three career starts over nine seasons, five different teams.

749
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: The Cardinals, according to Jacoby, reached out two years ago.

750
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: We all thought it made a natural fit because of

751
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: the Drew Petsing connection in Cleveland. But Jacoby even brought

752
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: up that a year ago that there were phone calls

753
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: and overtures maybe before the Desmond Ritter trade, but they

754
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: were trying to get perhaps Jacoby here with the Cardinals.

755
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: So there's been there's been constant communication to try to

756
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: get Jacoby here, and finally in year three, Jacoby is back.

757
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: Reunaited with Monty asin Ford, who was part of the

758
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: Patriots staff when Brissette was selected, familiarity with Jonathan Gannon

759
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: during their time together in Indianapolis, and then obviously the

760
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: connection with Drew Petsing and Israel Warfwork going back to

761
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: their time in Cleveland. And it's that part of your conversation, Zach,

762
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: that I want to play here, and that is Petsing's

763
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: coaching style and why Jacobe likes.

764
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: It so much.

765
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 7: His mindset going into games. You know, his how he

766
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 7: breaks everything down and makes it simple for the quarterback

767
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 7: to play. I think when I was playing there, I

768
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 7: think I was playing really good ball, and you know

769
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 7: the way he handled the meeting rooms and things like that.

770
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 7: It definitely helped me. You know, towards the.

771
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 3: Field, towards the back end of the season. Last year,

772
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: you were at State Farm Stadium for the Patriots versus

773
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: the Cardinals. I know you're on the up posing sidelines,

774
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: and the Cardinals came away with the win. But when

775
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: you were watching that game and even leading up to

776
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: it as you were prepping for the Cardinals, what'd you

777
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 3: see from the Cardinals offense and defense that stood out

778
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: to you?

779
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 7: You know, obviously on office, a lot of a lot

780
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 7: of you know, a lot of good players, a lot

781
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 7: of explosive players, and it was kind of cool to

782
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 7: see all the ways that Drew kind of used that

783
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 7: Cleveland offense and fit the players into the system and

784
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 7: kind of built around the guys that he had that

785
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 7: he has here. So you know, that was that was

786
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 7: very exciting. I was trying to call the plays from

787
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 7: the sideline and see if I was getting them right.

788
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 7: And then obviously the defense was always tough to go against.

789
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 7: You know, you got a guy at least like Buddha,

790
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 7: you know, you know, it's a lot of fun to

791
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 7: watch him. Obviously as an opposing player, is very tough

792
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 7: to go against.

793
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 3: It. How often were you correct when you were guessing.

794
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 7: Probably twice so that I thought it was yeah, exactly.

795
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 7: I thought it was kind of good just because I

796
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 7: knew what Drew liked and I knew some of the

797
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 7: plays that he always tries to sprinkle in.

798
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 5: There.

799
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Speaker 1: Nice nugget right there that Jacoby gave to you that

800
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: I know Darren Urban picked up for his article on

801
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: Easycardinals dot Com. But last season as far as being

802
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: the opponents on the opposite side when the Cardinals play

803
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: the Patriots and Jacoby again the backup trying to figure

804
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: out if he could guess the correct play calls, and

805
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: your follow up as far as yeah, it might have

806
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: happened a couple of times, but still that's that's two

807
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: more than most when you're trying to find play that

808
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: guessing game, if you will, between offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator.

809
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 3: Like I said, it's good that things are changing because

810
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: if Jacoby was able to pick out every single one,

811
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: well know the Cardinals are going to be winning that game. Still,

812
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: it's great to see that Jacoby still knows what offensive

813
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: coordinator Drew Patson is thinking from his time when Drew

814
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: was his quarterbacks coach. We know how often and how

815
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: much time is spent with these position coaches, with the

816
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 3: players in their room, and they built friendships. Jacoby talked

817
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: about how in his opening press conference about how it

818
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 3: was weird for him not talking to Israel Wolfork because

819
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: they're just discussing golf and you know, rgular conversations. And

820
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 3: once Jacoby says, hey, wait a minute, like what are

821
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: you guys doing over there in Arizona, Jacoby's like, I can't.

822
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 3: I can't mean. Coach Wolfork's like, I can't discuss this stuff.

823
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: You know that it's that it's not the legal contacting period,

824
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: the legal negotiating period. And then once the period opened up,

825
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 3: Jacoby was able to find out that Israel Wolfork they

826
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: might have had some interest in him, and that the

827
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: Cardinals wanted to reignite those conversations. Still, it's awesome that

828
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: even a few years separated from his time with Drew Petsing,

829
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 3: he knows what his new offensive coordinator likes to call

830
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 3: and what he's thinking with the Browns.

831
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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, Jacoby in eleven starts, four wins,

832
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: but the twelve touchdowns, six interceptions, and he had career

833
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: highs in both completion percentage and passer rating. Again, that

834
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: was with Petsing as your QB coach, and is he

835
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: in the room as well, But now you've got Petsing

836
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: as your offensive coordinator probably similar. I mean, there have

837
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: been some tweaks between twenty twenty two and now going

838
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: into twenty twenty five what Petsing likes to run, and

839
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: I think we're all in agreement that it's run first

840
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: with some tight end work. Now all of a sudden,

841
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: you've got a quarterback in there that can further help

842
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray familiarize himself with this offense and maybe even

843
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: add some tweaks to it within the scheme, because everyone

844
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: has what they want to do, and then how do

845
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: you enhance that each week to make sure you get

846
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: the win.

847
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 3: Still, caution people, because as excited as we can be

848
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: about the familiarity with Drew Petsing and his wolf fork

849
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 3: and knowing what Jonathan Gannon was like as a defensive

850
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 3: backs coach in Indianapolis, and then also Manti Austin for

851
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 3: recruiting him as the director of college scouting when the

852
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: New England Patriots had to pick and ended up drafting

853
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett. A lot has changed, as you mentioned, and

854
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 3: also Drew Petson has become a play caller. It's no

855
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 3: longer just a quarterbacks coach. You learn a lot as

856
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 3: a play caller when you have certain ideas and certain visions.

857
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 3: When you're the quarterback coach, you could only instruct your

858
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 3: guy about how the technique, the movements, where he wants,

859
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 3: the eyes being where he where, how to throw with

860
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: his eyes more than just with his arms, because you

861
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 3: want to be able to find that wide receiver out there,

862
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: the different soft spots in an opposing defense. But when

863
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 3: Drew Petson becomes the offensive coordinator, it's a totally different

864
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: ballgame because he's not just focused about the quarterback. Obviously,

865
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 3: that's where it starts. An end is what the quarterback

866
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 3: is able to do. But he's got to be focused

867
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Speaker 3: to making sure that there's no flags on the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: Wants to make sure that his wide receivers have enough

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00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 3: separation out there. Still knowing that knowledge of what Drew

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00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: Petson does like because once you're coordinator and once your

871
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: quarterbacks coach and a football savat like those guys are,

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00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: you still know what you enjoy and you still know

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00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: what makes them tick. That's something that is irreplaceable that

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Speaker 3: Jacoby bris said, as you mentioned, is able to bring

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00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 3: in the room because he knows drew from those earlier periods.

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Speaker 3: He's able to help now that he is with the

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Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just Kyler, It's going to be a

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00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 1: benefit for Clayton Tune as well, who is still young

880
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: in this league. In fact, you can make an argument

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00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: that Clayton Tune might improve even more and have a

882
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: maybe maybe look at this Jacoby addition to further his

883
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: own career, whether it's here or somewhere else, and look

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00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: back and say, oh, yeah, when Jacoby entered the room,

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00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: that's where I the light bulb went on and I

886
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: really started to get it. The game started to slow down,

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00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: and I was able to produce again. Whether that's practice,

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00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: a preseason, or whenever we might see Clayton Tune again.

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00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: Who knows, but you always have to be ready, and

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00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: I think again, having a veteran backup in there just

891
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: makes this team again. You need that Plan B. Jacoby

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00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: Brissett his Plan B.

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00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: It's tough to develop a backup quarterback when you spend

894
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: so much time on your starters and putting together a

895
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 3: game plan and Clayton tune might have gone, you know,

896
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: lost behind that because so much time is spent on

897
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: making sure Kyler Murray is ready to go week one,

898
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 3: week two, make sure that the offense is in sync

899
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 3: with one another. When desmie Ritter was here, desmid Ritter

900
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: was also still trying to learn how to be a

901
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 3: starting quarterback. He had that first season in Atlanta was

902
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: kind of man then started the second season in Atlanta

903
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: tailed off towards the back end of it, and then

904
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Speaker 3: he comes over here to the to the Valley, and

905
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 3: he's also still learning. He's also still trying to redeem

906
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: himself in recognize that he's only a few seconds away

907
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: from earning those starting snaps. That's difficult for a quarterback

908
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: that has spent all of his career starting to then

909
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: slide into that backup role because they're so used to

910
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: being in that spotlight. Jacoby has spent a lot of

911
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: his career eighty three games, fifty something starts, eleven starts

912
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: during when he was in Cleveland. He knows what it

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Speaker 3: takes to be a solid backup quarterback. The importance of

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00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 3: being a backup quarterback, not having that attention being on

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Speaker 3: him while also still working towards a game plan each week.

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Speaker 1: It takes a special player to be that kind of

917
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Speaker 1: guy if you want to still remain in the league

918
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: even though everyone wants to start. But hey, I can

919
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: still play this game and gee and just be at

920
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: the ready. Everyone has a role, and Jonathan Ganna likes

921
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: to say roles can change. But right now, going into

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00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: the off season, as far as the offseason work, the

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00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: role of Jacoby Prissett is backup quarterback to elevate not

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Speaker 1: only Kyler but Clayton Tune's performance as well.

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Speaker 3: How I started off the interview with Jacoby, I said,

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Speaker 3: MANI Austin for one. Competition in every room, and the

927
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: quarterback room is no exception. Whatever Jacoby Brissett is able

928
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 3: to do, if he's able to make Kyler Murray one

929
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Speaker 3: percent better, if he's able to to help pick up

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00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 3: Drew Petson's scheme in a different way that Kyler might

931
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Speaker 3: not have already thought about prior, that's an automatic win

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Speaker 3: for this Cardinals team.

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Speaker 1: All of Zach's one on one interviews and including his

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Speaker 1: exclusive conversation with adg Up on the Arizona Cardinals YouTube channel,

935
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: great job, great research, as well, not just asking the

936
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Speaker 1: basic questions, but actually going in depth and trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out stuff about these individuals as people and players

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Speaker 1: as well. So two thumbs up, two thumbs up.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Yeah, definitely get to know these guys

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Speaker 3: beyond the numbers, even though we don't know what their

941
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Speaker 3: jersey numbers are yet, not yet we want to guess,

942
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 3: but yeah, not yet, we could guess. Still, it's great

943
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 3: to get to know these people as people more than

944
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 3: just the guys that will suit up on Sundays. Still,

945
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 3: though we're very pumped about the guys that are gonna

946
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 3: be suiting up on Sundays.

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Speaker 1: You have set the bar very high for yourself here

948
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Speaker 1: on the early onsets of twenty twenty five.

949
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Speaker 3: I'm ready to go. They better be ready to go too,

950
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: went them to say in their Hall of Fame speech,

951
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Speaker 3: When I came to the valley.

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, that's not happening.

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Speaker 3: I know it's not. But a kid could dream.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I thought you had a I thought you weren't

955
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: worried about your head size. He said you had a

956
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Speaker 1: small head. Now all of a sudden, this your.

957
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Speaker 3: Dreams have nothing to do with the head size.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the ego. Oh that's a different story.

959
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: Still has nothing to do with the actual head size.

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Speaker 3: But still this head might be a small but the

961
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Speaker 3: ego might be big.

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Speaker 1: Oh I can you got that clips? Yeah? That's that's

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Speaker 1: that's getting clipped.

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Speaker 3: This is raw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah okay, hey how about that? On that notes, we

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Speaker 1: will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two presented by Hundai, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals Special.

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Speaker 1: Thanks as always to our executive producer Jim Mamure, our

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Speaker 1: associate producer Coddy Fincher. For Zach Kershman, I'm Greig Rayel Lou.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time you're on Cardinals Cover two.