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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Hurdle Emily here episode twelve.

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Speaker 2: First and foremost, before I talk.

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Speaker 1: About the goodness that is today's guest chef Dan Churchill,

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Speaker 1: a huge, huge, huge thank you to everyone.

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Speaker 2: Who came out for Hurdle Live.

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Speaker 1: The panel I put together of awesome guests from the

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Speaker 1: first eleven episodes of the pod last week at the

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Speaker 1: Arlow Hotel Nomad. I I'm not at a loss for

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Speaker 1: wonderful and I'm so grateful.

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Speaker 1: And now let's talk about today's guest, Dan Churchill. He's

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Speaker 1: an Australian born recently moved to NYC chef who's opening

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Speaker 1: his own spot called Charlie Street here in Manhattan next month.

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Speaker 1: He's all about healthy eating and has done some pretty

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Speaker 1: impressive stuff in his career, including traveling and cooking for

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Speaker 1: the one and Only Lindsay Vaughn. But it hasn't always

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Speaker 1: been smooth sailing for Dan, and in today's episode, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about how leaning into meditation helped him get over

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Speaker 1: his hurdle moment and completely transformed his creative process and

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Speaker 1: productivity levels.

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Speaker 2: I've actually gotten.

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Speaker 1: A handful of listener emails asking me for better practice

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Speaker 1: meditation tips, and trust me, today you'll definitely get some

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Speaker 1: of those, plus a whole bunch of suggestions for smart

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Speaker 1: food choices as well. And with that, let's get to hurdling.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here today with Dan Churchill. He's an author,

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Speaker 1: executive chef of as soon to come to New York

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Speaker 1: restaurant Charlie Street, also chef of under Armor, host of

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Speaker 1: Genius Kitchens, Feast with Friends, and a title that I

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Speaker 1: will affectionately now use with him going forward.

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Speaker 2: The Healthy Chef, he calls.

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Speaker 3: Himself, got to be about the brand, right, brand equity

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Speaker 1: You told me something actually pretty interesting about the term

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Speaker 1: the Healthy Chef. You said that when you type quote

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Speaker 1: unquote the Healthy Chef into Google, you come up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it's I think one thing I've learned

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Speaker 3: And fortunately with the way that I've written the website

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Speaker 3: you kind of fortunately realize the brand is super important.

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Speaker 3: And so things like under Armo or all these other

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Speaker 3: brands that want to get in touch and do things right,

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Speaker 3: your name pops up. You must be doing something right.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's kind of kind I want to get

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Speaker 1: all right, So this is a podcast, which means that

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's guilty as charge, YEA, it's true. I'm from

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Speaker 3: somewhere south of the equator effectively.

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Speaker 2: Which would be Australia.

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Speaker 3: You guys, I must admit, and this is not just

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Speaker 3: It is so hard because there's so much to do.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful people aren't too bad either.

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Speaker 2: So when did you move here?

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Speaker 3: So? New York had been here for two and a

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Speaker 1: When you moved here? Did you move here aiming to

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a communication between you and someone else,

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the catchphrase is the healthy chef, which means

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Speaker 1: that the food that you're providing is pretty healthy. So

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Speaker 1: tell me how you guys started really learning about healthy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So I didn't actually go to the traditional

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Speaker 3: I actually was. I did a master's of Exercise science

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Speaker 3: There's so many amazing recipes or cooking aspects out there,

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Speaker 1: Well, before we kind of dive into what happened to

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Speaker 3: Good call? Okay, So in your fridge you should always

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Speaker 2: So if you sound really Italian, I'm actually Italian?

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Speaker 3: Lemon, Yeah, lemon, So you need to have that because lemon.

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Speaker 3: What it does is it doesn't necessarily bring out the

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Speaker 2: But do you keep sweet potatoes in the fridge?

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Speaker 1: I'm head all right, So now then we know what

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Speaker 1: It seems like your hands are in a lot of

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Speaker 3: And it worked. Devon pick up what she's putting down them.

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Speaker 1: How does one to even begin concepting a restaurant? Putting

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Speaker 3: to speak to this on a number of times. For me,

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Speaker 3: getting up and going to the gym, it's a given,

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Speaker 3: Like I love getting up, sweating and just making sure

441
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Speaker 3: my body gets absolutely destroyed before I write an email

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Speaker 3: or do any form of cooking. And as I was

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Speaker 3: telling you, and you saw this morning and our.

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Speaker 1: Gym just quitch, by the way, I'm at the gym

445
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Speaker 1: on the treadmill today and I had never met Dan

446
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Speaker 1: in person, and I look up and I'm like, this

447
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Speaker 1: guy looks so familiar. And then I hear him speak,

448
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Speaker 1: and we had spoken on the phone before this lovely episode,

449
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is definitely this guy. I'm getting

450
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Speaker 1: theater today and he's just there like doing some push presses.

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Speaker 3: Something some weird Yeah I was actually doing. So we're doing.

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Speaker 3: The routine was fifty in partners of two, it was

453
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Speaker 3: one hundred push jerks.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was wondering how that was working.

455
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you had. We ended up doing ten by ten,

456
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Speaker 3: so we actually did. So we did that. Then we

457
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Speaker 3: did a run around the block and then straight into

458
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Speaker 3: a one hundred cow row, so your partner your new

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Speaker 3: ten eh. Then into another run around the block. We

460
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Speaker 3: did one hundred sit ups each. Then it was like

461
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Speaker 3: a hundred burpies and so on and so forth, back to

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Speaker 3: one hundred push jakes.

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Speaker 2: Just so like a walk around the block. That's it.

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Speaker 3: So's like I was I saying, like I treat my

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Speaker 3: body like a roller coaster. But for so long I

466
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Speaker 3: did that, and that's always still a part of my

467
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Speaker 3: morning routine. Except it took me a while to realize

468
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Speaker 3: importance of actually relaxing your mind. So for me, my

469
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Speaker 3: met form of meditation, which I soon to realize was

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Speaker 3: is mindfulness. So I find it very hard to sit still,

471
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Speaker 3: and so the idea of being active is much easier

472
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Speaker 3: to me. So things like yoga of it already tough

473
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Speaker 3: for me to be disciplined for so when I started meditating,

474
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Speaker 3: it was always a it's always something I start off

475
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Speaker 3: with only three minutes before moving on the flour and

476
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Speaker 3: eventually progressing. But what I realized was the importance of

477
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Speaker 3: I guess your performance and happiness throughout the day. So

478
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Speaker 3: whilst we always talk about our physical sense of you

479
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Speaker 3: go to the gym, then you must recover by resting,

480
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Speaker 3: we never talk so much about our mind doing the

481
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Speaker 3: same thing, because throughout the day, particularly in New York

482
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Speaker 3: or my you know, hustling about jumping between meetings and

483
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Speaker 3: podcasts and whatnot, you kind of never really relaxed the mind.

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Speaker 3: And so it took me a realization of what meditation

485
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Speaker 3: actually does to be more persistent with it. But ever

486
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Speaker 3: since I've had that click moment and got into a

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Speaker 3: routine of going to the gym, coming home, and meditating

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Speaker 3: for a minimum of ten minutes, my days are so clear,

489
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Speaker 3: and I just feel like my brain is sending me

490
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Speaker 3: high fives constantly because it's the most It's just my

491
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Speaker 3: thought process is no longer bouncy. It's clear. I know

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Speaker 3: my focus, I know my day's outcomes are, I know

493
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Speaker 3: my week's outcomes are going to be, and I move

494
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Speaker 3: on for what my year's action steps are going to be.

495
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Speaker 3: And having that clarity, having that discipline to be still

496
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Speaker 3: for ten minutes, I think is one of the best

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Speaker 3: things that you can do for your day.

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Speaker 1: When you started adding this meditation practice in regularly, were

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Speaker 1: you doing a guided meditation or were you just doing

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Speaker 1: it on your own?

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Speaker 2: Or how are you getting into it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I started with headspace.

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Speaker 2: Actually, you and everyone else man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually what I hear? I think I was.

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Speaker 3: So I listened to podcasts throughout the day and I

506
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Speaker 3: can't remember was it. I can't remember. It was Tim

507
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Speaker 3: Ferris or Lewis Howes who told me was talking about headspace,

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Speaker 3: and so I started doing it. You know, between that

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Speaker 3: and making my bed the first thing. It became a ritual.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of crazy. You said that too, because another

511
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Speaker 1: guy that was on the podcast, his name is Adam Callen.

512
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Speaker 1: He's the co founder of Gene Motorcycles. They're based out

513
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Speaker 1: of Williamsburg. Adam Callen said he used to before he

514
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Speaker 1: kind of added mindfulness into his routine as well, would

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Speaker 1: get up in the morning and sit on the couch

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Speaker 1: and think about making his bed. And it was finally,

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Speaker 1: you know, one day he just had this moment. He

518
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Speaker 1: was like, I don't need to waste ten minutes sitting

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Speaker 1: here thinking about making my bed. I just need to

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Speaker 1: start making the bed in every aspect of my life. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and meditation and mindfulness actually really gave him an inch

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Speaker 1: toward that as well.

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Speaker 3: One. I think that's what's great about what I've realized

524
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Speaker 3: about mindfulness meditation is although it focuses you for that

525
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Speaker 3: aspect of the day, it also makes you realize the

526
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Speaker 3: importance of balance throughout. You know, I've always talked about balance.

527
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Speaker 3: I talk about harmony, whether it be in food, activity, play.

528
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Speaker 3: But you know, I got to a point where I

529
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Speaker 3: no longer really looking at an email on Saturday or Sunday.

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Speaker 3: I had an incident with my manager the other day.

531
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Speaker 3: He's like, you have a deliverable and I didn't know.

532
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Speaker 3: I don't check my emails the weekends. And it's just

533
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Speaker 3: I've gotten to that discipline now because the first thing

534
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Speaker 3: I do is I got to make my bed, and

535
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Speaker 3: that is you know, it just means I've done one

536
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Speaker 3: thing today, I've ticked that box. But the mindfulness meditation

537
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Speaker 3: has made me realize how much harmony is important for me.

538
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Speaker 3: I know that people talk about crushing it and like

539
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Speaker 3: going all out and what you have to do and

540
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Speaker 3: the minim hours of sleep you have and the burning

541
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Speaker 3: candles both ends and I'm totally agree. If you need

542
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Speaker 3: to do that, that's totally what you need to do.

543
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Speaker 3: Then you get to a point where you've been doing

544
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Speaker 3: that for a little bit and you realize that sometimes

545
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Speaker 3: you actual outlet of performance is better when it's one

546
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Speaker 3: hundred percent as opposed to six percent for a longer

547
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Speaker 3: period of time. Right, That's why switching off to me

548
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Speaker 3: has been so crucial.

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Speaker 1: So when you started meditating, did you really feel like

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Speaker 1: some of the big plans that started to form on

551
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Speaker 1: the business side made a little bit more sense.

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Speaker 3: It's funny, like you really try and think about how

553
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Speaker 3: that's even possible. But yeah, everything I speak to I

554
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Speaker 3: have a Monday morning call with my content manager, and

555
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Speaker 3: the clarity on those calls has just been absolutely phenomenal.

556
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Speaker 3: Ever since I was in a consistent state of mindfulness meditation.

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Speaker 3: You know, the time of days that I plan out

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Speaker 3: my you know, active whether it be I have a

559
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Speaker 3: thinking time. I actually have a thinking time in the afternoon,

560
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Speaker 3: which is like my one hour of just me shut

561
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Speaker 3: everything off, and if I'm thinking of a new recipe

562
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: or a new trad strategy, a new something I have

563
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 3: to do for the new production, like anything like that.

564
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Speaker 3: It's that one hour throughout the day. There's there's I

565
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: have two meetings generally during the day if I'm going

566
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Speaker 3: to have them, and then between two times everything else

567
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: is like work at all, what I call play because

568
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Speaker 3: it's fectively I've got the best job in the world,

569
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Speaker 3: in my opinion. So from this mindfulness meditation, it's really

570
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Speaker 3: made me clear in all aspects of my life. And

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Speaker 3: it's funny how that has led to business performing really

572
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Speaker 3: well too.

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Speaker 2: So it's talk to me a little about that thinking time.

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Speaker 2: What do you do? Do you walk around? Do you

575
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Speaker 2: not walk around? I mean, everything's off.

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Speaker 3: That's funny. I go to a cafe, I have an espresso,

577
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Speaker 3: and I put headphones in, but don't listen to music.

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Speaker 2: I am so about that life.

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Speaker 1: I actually just got I'm wearing them right now, these

580
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: crazy awesome Sony headphones, and I put them in and

581
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Speaker 1: the entire world is just shut out And it doesn't

582
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Speaker 1: even matter if anything's playing through them, because I feel

583
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Speaker 1: like when they're on, and I know there have definitely

584
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Speaker 1: been studies about this, I can just focus on whatever

585
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Speaker 1: it is that I've got to.

586
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Speaker 3: Do exactly exactly I read it. It's amazing and also

587
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Speaker 3: for a couple of things. It's like, as as you're

588
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Speaker 3: aware of your headphones on, it's almost like the don't

589
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 3: even try and talk to me, Like yeah, that kind

590
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Speaker 3: of moment. And you know, it's funny. I read a

591
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Speaker 3: couple of maybe one chapter of a book, and they'll

592
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Speaker 3: just get me into a state of just I've had

593
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Speaker 3: my me time. I can now get into a creative state.

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Speaker 3: I've got my headphones on, I've got my espresso. It's

595
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Speaker 3: how I'm able to prime myself for those moments of thinking.

596
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Speaker 3: And I may not action those thoughts until a week later,

597
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Speaker 3: but I know that I've thought of this, and whether

598
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Speaker 3: it be looking at the back end of the website,

599
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Speaker 3: how to target new funnels and you make sure that

600
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Speaker 3: we're really looking after people who are consuming some of

601
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Speaker 3: my recipes, like that one hour is so crucial to

602
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Speaker 3: every aspect of my business.

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Speaker 1: You said that meditation makes you feel more clear. Compare

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Speaker 1: how you feel throughout the day like today, for instance,

605
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Speaker 1: versus how you used to feel, maybe when you were

606
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Speaker 1: grinding trying to put together all that stuff for the

607
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Speaker 1: former restaurant concept.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so funny to reflect about then and now,

609
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Speaker 3: because then I was like, honestly, it felt like I

610
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: was The best way I can put is, my mind

611
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: felt like it was jumping between a meeting then going

612
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Speaker 3: to another meeting. And when you're in a meeting, you're

613
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 3: never actually actioning any of the meeting minutes, but you're

614
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Speaker 3: just go into between the meetings. And if you go

615
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 3: between the meetings so often throughout the day, you're never

616
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Speaker 3: actioning any of the things that were talked about, be

617
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: still jumping between and so that's how scattered my mind felt.

618
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: I constantly felt I was jumping between something and never

619
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: had that abilities to focus on this one of the

620
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Speaker 3: things I was doing throughout the day. And now I'm

621
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Speaker 3: probably busier than honestly the projects I have on the moment,

622
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 3: four times as busy as I was back then, and

623
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Speaker 3: I'm so much happier and clearer. Like I wake up

624
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: and I'm never really a stressful person, but I just

625
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 3: feel like controlled. I feel super controlled. Not in a

626
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: way that I feel safe in the sense that I

627
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 3: don't want to have the hustle. I've got the hussle,

628
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but I just feel really controlled,

629
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Speaker 3: like and I think that's a It took mindfulness meditation

630
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Speaker 3: to really make that really realization clear for me.

631
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Speaker 2: It's interesting that you say that.

632
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Speaker 1: I actually recently wrote an article for Runners World about

633
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Speaker 1: accepting the things that you can't change. I ran the

634
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Speaker 1: Boston Marathon last month, and on that day it was

635
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: apocalyptic for lack of a better designation, So whether it was.

636
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Speaker 2: Awful, it was pouring.

637
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Speaker 1: At times, it felt like there was like a two

638
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: hundred and forty pound linebacker pushing me back because of

639
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: the wind. I was actually obscenely proud of myself because

640
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't angry. I wasn't angry about the circumstance, Like

641
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: there was nothing I could do about the weather. The

642
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: only things that I could focus on were the things

643
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: that I could control, so through meditation, which was something

644
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Speaker 1: for this marathon, being my sixth, it was the first

645
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: time I ever incorporated like a constant meditation practice into

646
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: my regular routine. And for me, just like the noting

647
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: and like recognizing thoughts that come up and like accepting

648
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: them and then kind of distancing yourself emotionally from situations

649
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: that may be less than ideal. So for me in

650
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Speaker 1: this marathon, accepting what I couldn't change was ultimately what

651
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Speaker 1: helped me get through it. Like, almost as valuable as

652
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: all of the training runs was the meditation practice that

653
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Speaker 1: I picked up. Because if I hadn't taken the time

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Speaker 1: to really understand how to use these different techniques, I

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Speaker 1: could have been shit out of luck come marathon Monday.

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Speaker 1: And so I hear you when you're saying it makes

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Speaker 1: my days feel like they're more organized. It makes me

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Speaker 1: feel like I can kind of take a or step

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Speaker 1: back sometimes. I think that, hands down, is one of

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Speaker 1: the most beautiful things about meditation.

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Speaker 3: I think that's crazy. It's one hundred percent of the

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Speaker 3: nose in their head. And firstly, congratulations six marathons is phenomenal,

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Speaker 3: and we all heard about that Boston marathon, so that's

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Speaker 3: very impressive. But you touched on a really good point.

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Speaker 3: Control what you can and I always say control the controllable.

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Speaker 3: If you can't control something, in my opinion, you should

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Speaker 3: not be thinking about it the sweat time all that

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Speaker 3: kind of thing. For being able to control something that's different.

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Speaker 3: If you can't control it, move on to something that

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Speaker 3: you can't control it, you can't thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: here with Dan Churchill. We are talking about how mindfulness

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Speaker 1: has helped him build a better business, I would say,

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Speaker 1: with the pending launch of his restaurant Content here in

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Speaker 1: New York City next month. We also mentioned earlier that

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Speaker 1: Dan is the chef for under Armours, So why don't

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Speaker 1: you tell me a little bit about what that entails.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's too fine. Ander Armour is a phenomenal, phenomenal

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Speaker 3: company and even a family at that. I went to

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Speaker 3: Baltimore and it's really cool to see the operation they have.

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Speaker 3: But they were effectually looking for someone to look after

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Speaker 3: Lindsay nutritionally. Lindsay Yvonne at at the Winter Olympics this

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Speaker 3: year in Peong Chain And so when they reached out

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Speaker 3: to a chef, they're looking for a chef in the

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Speaker 3: health department, and when they searched it on Google, they

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Speaker 3: had my name pop up a number of times. And

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Speaker 3: so what started out as a Google search turned out

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Speaker 3: to be a really cool partnership where you know, as

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Speaker 3: a chef of under Armor, I look after a lot

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Speaker 3: of their food in nutrition space, but also and also

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Speaker 3: their content with my fitness power, which there's a massive

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Speaker 3: community of awesome health individuals. And then I went to

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Speaker 3: the Olympics and looked at after Lindsay Vonn and her

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Speaker 3: food for a couple of.

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Speaker 2: Weeks, just looked after her.

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Speaker 1: For those of you, for some reason who may not

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Speaker 1: know who Lindsay Vonn is, you're living under a rock

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Speaker 1: Lindsay is an American World.

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Speaker 2: Cup alpine ski racer. It's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 3: She's a wicked cheek. She's actually going for the most downhill,

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Speaker 3: most downhill wins of all time, she's currently the most

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Speaker 3: as a female. And to be honest, what's really cool

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Speaker 3: about her is, you know, I played rugby, played sport

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Speaker 3: all my life pretty much. I wanted to play professionally.

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Speaker 3: It's so injured and the injuries that she's gone through

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Speaker 3: isn't like one of those incidents is enough to, you know,

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Speaker 3: derail anyone for the rest of their life. She's been

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Speaker 3: through like five and she's got up and just.

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Speaker 2: Done all over her lot of eclairs, right, a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of a cl hip. Oh these oh god, it's horrific.

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Speaker 3: But and and she's really cool. She's so American, like

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Speaker 3: she's she's.

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Speaker 2: Like I've met her.

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Speaker 1: I remember a couple of years ago I did like

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Speaker 1: a rapid fire question video with her for an old

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Speaker 1: job and she was so delightful.

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Speaker 3: She's awesome, she's so cool.

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Speaker 1: So what are some of the things that you would

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Speaker 1: prepare for her?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it depends on the day. So if she

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Speaker 3: has multiple events, I would make sure there's some form

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Speaker 3: of high GI snack. So I made like a banana

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Speaker 3: bread for example.

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Speaker 2: I wait, sorry, what was that WORDI GI? What's that? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Hi Gi?

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. This accent is just throwing me.

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Speaker 3: On my apologies. Guys.

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Speaker 1: Hi wait, I'm gonna say high g I hi g I.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was the worst. But the way you

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Speaker 1: just said it just like all blended together. And I

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Speaker 1: was like, is this a term? Are you speaking Italian again?

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Speaker 3: I don't know?

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Speaker 2: Hi g I snack? Yeah, So what's an example?

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Speaker 3: Banana bread or blase balls, those kind of things. She's okay,

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Speaker 3: so this, Yeah, I'm ready. I got some. I got

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Speaker 3: some coffee vanilla bliss balls. So your coffee dates, coconut walnuts,

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Speaker 3: and peanut butter. Yeah, so good. So you got those things?

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Speaker 3: You got the breakfast that would be ranging from a

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Speaker 3: protein right through to a complex thing like an oatmeal,

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Speaker 3: so peebe and j oatmeal, Like I made a peanut

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Speaker 3: butter and then a chia jam on top of Vinilo oatmeal,

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Speaker 3: or be a fritata which could have been like ghost cheese,

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Speaker 3: sundried tomatoes, some spinach with soup potato as a little Christie.

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Speaker 2: Bass kind of thing that sounds delicious, Yeah, super tasty.

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Speaker 1: Well you said you also produce content for under Armer

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Speaker 1: as well, So if people were to go check out

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Speaker 1: some of their sites that you're talking about my Fitness Pals,

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Speaker 1: they would go on there and they'd be able to

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Speaker 1: get some of your eats in my eight Go.

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Speaker 3: Onto my Fitness Pound, just type in Dan Churchill and yeah,

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Speaker 3: you see my face. Unfortunately pop up.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, that's not the only place that people can see

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Speaker 1: your face online.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me about some of the other projects you

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Speaker 2: have going on.

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Speaker 1: I know with Genius Kitchen, you have Feast with Friends,

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Speaker 1: So talk to me about fast with Friends and also

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Speaker 1: about in the kitchen some people mightn't know about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So Jinia's Kitchen is a platform that's under Discovery,

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Speaker 3: which is also part of Food NETWORKGTV Cooking Channel. It's

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Speaker 3: effectively a website app based platform where it's got a

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Speaker 3: range of different shows. So it could be like Carbonivorous Eats,

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Speaker 3: things with Jamie Oliver, Nigel Lawson, and then you've got

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Speaker 3: Feasts with Friends, which is my show which is current

783
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Speaker 3: in season two. So the concept of the show Feasts

784
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Speaker 3: with Friends is it's absolutely real. So I'm living in

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Speaker 3: New York City, and I'm super inspired every day by

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Speaker 3: different things, whether it be going into a shop, seeing friends,

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Speaker 3: and the scenarios in each episode pretty much really depicts

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Speaker 3: my friends and each recipe or recipes that I create

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Speaker 3: in each episode related to them. So, for example, my

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Speaker 3: friend Nate, who's a gun real estate twenty five year

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Speaker 3: old duties a legend. He barely does any other than

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Speaker 3: sweep potato, Brussels sprouts, grilled chicken, and so like, that's great,

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Speaker 3: but I want to like make sure he maximizes his flavor.

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Speaker 3: And he's got a lovely girlfriend too, named Noise, so

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Speaker 3: I want to make sure that she gets a maxim

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Speaker 3: amount of flavor out of the ingredients that he's producing.

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Speaker 3: So I put together a really simple dish on meal preps.

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Speaker 3: So you know, that's one kind of scenario. Another scenario

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Speaker 3: could be with my new book, creating a recipe with

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Speaker 3: my food stylist and getting the feedback from her along

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Speaker 3: with people on Instagram, and creating this amazing olive oil cake.

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Speaker 2: I'll ave oilcake.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're speaking my language right up. You mentioned you're

804
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Speaker 1: a new book. Talk to me about your new book.

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Speaker 1: Talk to me about being an author.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so being author is awesome. I love it because

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Speaker 3: you can hand your book to your mum and mum

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Speaker 3: sees you with your face on it and she's super excited.

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Speaker 3: But also it's a way of connecting with complete strangers

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Speaker 3: that hasn't actually impact I think that's the biggest thing

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Speaker 3: for me. So I would get random things on Instagram

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Speaker 3: where they may not have seen you on Instagram but

813
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Speaker 3: seen my book and want to reach out and say

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Speaker 3: how thank you for these awesome recipes I've actually had

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Speaker 3: to date about I think it's eight people propose over

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Speaker 3: a dish for my recipe and to know that a

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Speaker 3: dish that I, you know, put together has been so

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Speaker 3: important to an event of someone's life, of that magnitude

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Speaker 3: that is wicked like that, That's why the power of

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Speaker 3: food is so amazing.

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Speaker 2: They message you when they do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty incredible. Hey, Danish, want you know I

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Speaker 3: proposed to my girlfriend over like, you know, the standing roast.

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Speaker 4: And she said yes, it was all because of the rest.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I'm not taking any credit for this exactly,

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Speaker 4: like definitely not.

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Speaker 3: No, It's like these guys are putting X amount of

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Speaker 3: years already with this lovely girl. And I'm not taking

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Speaker 3: any of the credit, but it's cool to see that

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Speaker 3: he thought it was such an important way to propose

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Speaker 3: to her over a dish that you if.

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Speaker 1: What is one of the biggest challenges when it comes

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Speaker 1: to launching your own restaurant, It's going to.

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Speaker 3: Be the right stuff you you constantly, I can I

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Speaker 3: can teach anyone anything food. I can teach them any

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Speaker 3: to do with you know, I guess how to how

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Speaker 3: to like, you know, prep anything to what we want

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Speaker 3: our service model to look like. At the end of

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Speaker 3: the day, you cannot get them to handle the customer,

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Speaker 3: understand the behavioral types and react unless they know how

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Speaker 3: to do that from experience or they know how they're

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Speaker 3: done from their parents or whatever. So that's probably the

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Speaker 3: biggest challenge. You can talk about the challenges of plumbing,

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Speaker 3: you know, putting the right piping, electrical stuff in and

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Speaker 3: getting the right money together. That stuff is like, that's

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Speaker 3: honestly second level because you don't have the ability to

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Speaker 3: control what's going on over there with that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, and how do you find these people?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very unfortunately with Instagram people already asking so

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Speaker 3: having people reach out and you know, across my Instagram,

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Speaker 3: across Charlie Street's Instagram, they're interested in either cooking or

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Speaker 3: just being part of it. They love the vibe of

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Speaker 3: what's going on. But otherwise, you have platforms you can

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Speaker 3: reach out to, you have, you can put it up

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Speaker 3: on it, you can put it up on social media.

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Speaker 3: It is probably the best way we're gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I've already got my My content manager is

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Speaker 3: actually gonna be going across both Charlie Street and down

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Speaker 3: church all the brands. So it's gonna be That's quite

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Speaker 3: an easy that's quite an easy transition for her. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: from there, we're just gonna keep going.

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Speaker 2: Dan Churchill the brand kind of crazy.

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Speaker 3: I just can't ever just said that. I just threw

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Speaker 3: off my mouth.

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Speaker 2: You only got that level of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, you know what, I've got to own this. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I guess. So it's funny because I guess at the

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Speaker 3: point now, like you, that brand stands for something and

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Speaker 3: stands for happiness, health and making you healthy, eating more

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Speaker 3: affordable to the everyday individual. And I guess that it

871
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Speaker 3: took me while realized and this is very in a

872
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 3: strong way of doing things that you brought up to

873
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: always just not speak lowly of yourself, but not to

874
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: not to tell it how it is. Sometimes and you

875
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: get to a point like, Okay, now I'm doing this.

876
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 3: The reason they'll have to be figured ahad for this

877
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 3: is who I believe in it. And so that's what

878
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: I'm doing. And so with everything that's going on, the

879
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 3: whole sole focus for that is still what your core

880
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: message is. And so that means you have to promote

881
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: the brand and so be it.

882
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: I think that can be a little bit of a

883
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: slippery slope. I mean, I've had some really great guests

884
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: in here that have quite the social media followings, and

885
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,959
Speaker 1: most of them have assistance or you know, some sort

886
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: of communications director of sorts, whether that be a friend

887
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: or hired help.

888
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: And they weren't always like that.

889
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 1: But when you get to a certain point, it's it's

890
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: not you know, succumbing to what might be considered imposter

891
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: syndrome anymore. It's like you're not pretending that you've done

892
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: all these amazing things, Like you've done all these amazing things.

893
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: You know, you have a contract with the Food Network,

894
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: you are a published author, you are launching a new restaurant,

895
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: and with that comes a lot of responsibility and sometimes

896
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 1: you need some help.

897
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, now you do know it. And I think

898
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: it's just that's I think that's a whole concept in

899
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: itself that I probably still struggle with day to day

900
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 3: to own so to about owning something. I tokout, owning

901
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: a brand, owning a message, And it's still to this

902
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: day the ability to someone say, you know, Dan, you've

903
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: done so well. That's it's just the way I've been

904
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 3: brought up with having two brothers and you know, a

905
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 3: family of just super awesome people to keep you level.

906
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: Headed when it comes to what we are eating every day.

907
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: I know, you give me some suggestions of things that

908
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: I should be keeping in my refrigerator, but what is

909
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: something that I should be eating very regularly?

910
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 3: I think there's a big philosophy that I'm really looking

911
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 3: forward to push in the next like six months and ongoing,

912
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: to be honest, and it's going to come out with

913
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: all the recipes that I do. But I think one

914
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: of the easiest things to think about is color. So

915
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 3: like whenever everyone talks to me like what's the best

916
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: way to eat, it's like, just fill your day with color.

917
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: And I mean that from a specific of there's so

918
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: many microvitamins, matronutrients, and just tastiness in density of color,

919
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: like soup potatoes, all these greens we have, roasted vegetables,

920
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: all those kinds of things are filled with amazing unrefined

921
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 3: like ingredients and color and tastiness. And if you eat

922
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: those kind of things, we hear about eating the rainbow.

923
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 3: If you're eating harmony, you're going to be killing it. Now.

924
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 3: Whether that means you're a vegan, a vegetarian, paleo, keto,

925
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 3: whatever it is, you are trying to eat as many

926
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: forms of nutrients as possible, and you know, if you

927
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: eat too much spinch or kale, you're going to have

928
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 3: an overdose in a thing called gagoagins. So like there's

929
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: still too much of anything. But the idea is that

930
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 3: you should be having so much color throughout the day,

931
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: and if you're only having one specific thing, you're not

932
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: getting the nutrients from something else. So that's a simple

933
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 3: way to say it. If you want a specific thing

934
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 3: of what you should be having, you know, it's like

935
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 3: have vegetables and fruit obviously, and avoid having the high

936
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: gui fruits that day. If you have protein try and

937
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: have a leaner ones, But I am a big believer

938
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: in still having chocolate and all those sweets and all

939
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: those things that are said to be bad for you.

940
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 3: Because we talk about nutrients from the macro level, we

941
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: don't ever talk about the things like our endocrime system,

942
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 3: our hormones. So when we actually have chocolate, it releases

943
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: an inundated amount of you know, serotonin and endorphin rushes,

944
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: and that is so positive for the things that happen

945
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: at a cellular level, our thinking capacity, our cognitive enhancement,

946
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 3: and just to be honest, overall happiness. So like when

947
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: you're happy, you're killing it. Health is not about being

948
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 3: six percent body fat and having steamed chicken and broccoli.

949
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 3: That is not health. That's you speak to bodybuilders, they

950
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 3: crush it determined for nine or ten months of the

951
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 3: year and then they're super unhappy, like they're really like

952
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 3: raging angry people. So like, to me, being healthy is

953
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: having your your mental state, your psychological state, your social state,

954
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: and your physical state alllned. And that's why having chocolate

955
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 3: and all those things is a trait. It's or whenever

956
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 3: you have it's still having it is super important. That's

957
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: why I say that color always wins.

958
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: I had a Whitney and Danielle from Sacara Life in

959
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: Here not too long ago, and they said that they

960
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,959
Speaker 1: really follow this philosophy that you are what you do

961
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: seventy five percent of the time.

962
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: So I asked them.

963
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: They're big on their every day must have is organically

964
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 1: figurines and it comes with most every Ccara life entre.

965
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: And so I said, but what about the night that

966
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: I want to go to Italy and eat a baguette

967
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: and a cheese plate on a date with someone? And

968
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: they said, please go to Italy and eat the bag

969
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 1: get and the cheese plate, and just the next day

970
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: you wake up and you just get back to what

971
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: you were doing.

972
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: And you know, I think, I think you're right.

973
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: So much of our happiness kind of revolves around how

974
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: we treat our bodies, and a lot of the importance

975
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: about how we treat our bodies involves what we eat exactly.

976
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: It's so it is so frustrating we see people having

977
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: these things and going there depressed. And it's amazing what

978
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: happens when I tell people just give two weeks of this,

979
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: and they come back to me like a month ago,

980
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 3: I'm the happiest I've been in forever. And they even

981
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: changed an exercise routine. They just simply adjusted a few

982
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 3: things in their diet. And let's be realistic, though, in

983
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 3: a sustainable lifestyle light right now, it is so unrealistic

984
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: to tell someone you are never going to have chocolate,

985
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: red wine, cheese, you know, red meat, any of these

986
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 3: things ever again, when you know you should be enjoying

987
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: all forms of life that they have to offer.

988
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: We talked about your bliss balls. Is that what we

989
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: call them?

990
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, coffee bliss balls.

991
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: Coffee bliss b Get that recipe on the website too,

992
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: And what website am I going to for those?

993
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 2: Just Stan Churchill dot com just my brand. Other snacks

994
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: that are good to grab and go.

995
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: I feel like we need to now this is the

996
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: part of the podcast where we give actionable tips to

997
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: people to execute on their own.

998
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: So if they are not.

999
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: Making their own bliss balls, what's like an easy grab

1000
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: and go snack that also gives you a good nutrient.

1001
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 3: Power obviously protein wise, your nuts straight up, Like there's

1002
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 3: different micro vitamins inundated with amazingness there. Fruit is really

1003
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 3: easy to take. I honestly think even grabbing things like

1004
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: you know, tuna cans, a lot of them, A lot

1005
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 3: of them can be high murcury. But even that, having

1006
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 3: that sometimes with a piece of fruit afterwards, you know,

1007
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: give it maybe twenty minutes, gives you the combination of

1008
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 3: protein and complex you know, carbs that you require. I

1009
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: think whole seeded fruits is super important, so versus a banana.

1010
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: Bananas are great for short term energy, but whole seeded

1011
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: fruits are sustained energy, so berries, those kinds of things.

1012
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: One of the things I do is having a rice

1013
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: cracker with peanut butter is just firstly game changer, like

1014
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 3: unreal before the gym, if I need a really big

1015
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 3: pick me up, I have rice cracker, peanut butter and

1016
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 3: just some smash banana. And that's for me. And I

1017
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 3: know my metabolism and I know what I need beforehand,

1018
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 3: and I'm what they call an ectomol technically, so I

1019
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 3: need a lot. I have a very fast metabolism. But

1020
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 3: for someone who's maybe looking to maintain or lose weight,

1021
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 3: maybe just a scuba peanut butters honestly all they need.

1022
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 2: I like you as a person, but I hate people

1023
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: like you.

1024
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, with a fast metabolism.

1025
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 3: Right.

1026
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: I feel like most men like have this joy.

1027
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: Right, And admittedly we do have a fast metabolism naturally

1028
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 3: than compared to women. And the reason for that is

1029
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 3: that as you build muscle, your muscle is like an engine,

1030
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 3: and a V eight engine burns more fuel than a

1031
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 3: V six, So naturally a vight needs more energy and

1032
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 3: needs more fuel to survive. So therefore we need more fuel.

1033
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 3: So that's why we have a fast metabolism. But you know,

1034
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 3: it's not like I personally don't. I rarely have things

1035
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 3: like pizza and pasta and things like that. I love

1036
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 3: to make both. I rarely have it, but I still

1037
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 3: know when the range and what my body requires. Like

1038
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: right now, I'm ready for a choco banana peanut butter

1039
00:50:58,719 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: smoothie protein smoothie.

1040
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 2: Ask to me a little bit about your every day now.

1041
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: So you told me that you usually go to the gym,

1042
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: you come home, you have this routine that you really appreciate,

1043
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: You meditate, and then you go about your day with

1044
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: these two meeting slots. I feel like it's all very

1045
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: a b CD. Do you ever feel like the routine

1046
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: almost gets you down a little bit?

1047
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 3: No, because I wouldn't say it's every single day like that.

1048
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 3: But like, for example, I recently got a girlfriend for

1049
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 3: the first time in forever, so like I now had

1050
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 3: this awesome new thing in my life. That is, when

1051
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 3: I say think, I'm not talking about Milana. I'm talking

1052
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: about this new way of balancing my life effectively. And

1053
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 3: so one morning she may stay over. One night I

1054
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 3: don't want to get up early, may want you to

1055
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 3: chill out with her and gab a coffee. You know.

1056
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 3: So I have this way of thinking that it's important

1057
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: to have the routine, but not be absolutely drilled down

1058
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 3: by the routine. I have flexibility in my life. I've

1059
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 3: gotten to a point where I know the harmony that

1060
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 3: I have, and the harmony is everything. It's not just

1061
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 3: the way I eat, It's not just having a complete

1062
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 3: strict way's also having the flexibility to switch off, and

1063
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 3: that's everything. So I probably do my routine probably at

1064
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 3: least three to four times a week, which would be

1065
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: make my bed, go to the gym, come home, second breakfast, meditate,

1066
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 3: and then get into emails and start working and cooking.

1067
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 3: But you know that probably happens four times a week.

1068
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 3: It doesn't happen seven days, especially if, like you know,

1069
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 3: say you have something that you if you're disappointed enough

1070
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 3: to always do it, great, But at the end of

1071
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 3: the day, if you've got someone that you want to

1072
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 3: be doing something with in the morning or the evening

1073
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 3: or whatever, and you know it's gonna run over time,

1074
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 3: you don't want to be you have the ability to

1075
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 3: control something great. But if you're the kind of person

1076
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: that's like, no, this is this is what I need

1077
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 3: to do and that's what makes you chick, then that's you.

1078
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 3: That's totally fine.

1079
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: I want to backtrack to your meditation practice just one

1080
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: more time and ask you if you had to offer

1081
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: two tips to someone who was a total beginner in meditating,

1082
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: what would those be. I think this is definitely you know,

1083
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: your meditation practice is a huge part of why I

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Speaker 1: wanted to get you in here today, aside from all

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Speaker 1: of the goodness that you have to tell me about

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Speaker 1: what I should be eating. But I think it's so

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Speaker 1: buzzy right now, and a lot of people have a

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Speaker 1: really hard time committing and they just don't feel like

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Speaker 1: they're reaping all of the benefits that they read so

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Speaker 1: much about.

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Speaker 2: So what would you say to a total meditation newbie.

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Speaker 3: Well, firstly, you're not alone. The fact that you know

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Speaker 3: to be able to sit still when you want to

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Speaker 3: be doing so much and just shut your eyes after

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Speaker 3: already sleeping for the previous night. It's a discipline thing

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Speaker 3: that takes time. But what I will say is that

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Speaker 3: start off with a short time. Start off with just

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Speaker 3: two minutes, three minutes. And what really triggered it for

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Speaker 3: me when I realized I was in a meditative state

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Speaker 3: was just listening to my breath and honestly, just focus

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Speaker 3: on breathing in through your nose, taking that deep breath

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Speaker 3: and exhaling again the same way. And what allows you

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Speaker 3: to realize is that you're focusing on one thing and

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Speaker 3: your mind is not wandering, and it will wander, it

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Speaker 3: does wander, but by focusing on your own breath, just

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Speaker 3: calming down, having the deep sensation of that, you know,

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Speaker 3: expansion of your lungs, it allows you to really just

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Speaker 3: tune out. And I think that is so awesome to

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Speaker 3: be able to discipline yourself to do. But it's an

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Speaker 3: amazing game changing thing. And then over time you can

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Speaker 3: go to three minutes, four minutes, five minutes, and you

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Speaker 3: get to a point where you're comfortable doing ten or

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Speaker 3: fifteen if you wanted to, And sometimes people do it

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Speaker 3: twice a day, whatever it takes. But I just think

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Speaker 3: starting off with a few minutes and listening to your

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Speaker 3: breath the two easiest things to get into the meditative

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Speaker 3: state of monthfulness. Set up straight, yeah, I mean I would,

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Speaker 3: but sometimes I find myself coming to and realizing I'm

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Speaker 3: slouching over. So you know, that's definitely an end thing,

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Speaker 3: and I'll find work towards that.

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Speaker 1: It's great tip the setting up street is important. Last question, kidding,

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Speaker 1: Two more questions. First, if you stop and look at

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Speaker 1: the last two and a half years since moving to

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Speaker 1: New York City, what would you say was something that

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Speaker 1: felt like a major failure in the moment but taught

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Speaker 1: you a lot?

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Speaker 3: I mean, top of mind would have to be just

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Speaker 3: trusting in something that I didn't have, Like I don't

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Speaker 3: say in control. It's more a case of when this

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Speaker 3: restaurant situation took place, this this food hall, and all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, I was, you know, just expecting it

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Speaker 3: to go through the end. It maybe realized things are

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Speaker 3: not there until they're there. So when I have an

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Speaker 3: opportunity to come my way, and it sounds really exciting

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Speaker 3: and it's great. I don't count that chicken until it

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Speaker 3: actually is signed on the contract. I'm not even talking

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Speaker 3: about until we've can't agree with terms and everything. I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: until I've on the contract, it is not a thing.

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Speaker 3: And I've learned that so often. It mean that I

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Speaker 3: don't build myself up pipe I don't tell someone about

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Speaker 3: it and get disappointed. I don't tell mom and then

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Speaker 3: she's like, what's going on with this thing? And you're like, well, Mom,

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Speaker 3: I have to tell you. And it's just like.

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Speaker 1: I love mom, but that's the worst because you feel

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Speaker 1: like they're just breaking You're just breaking their heart and

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Speaker 1: you're already upset enough. Yeah, and then they're upset and

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Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do about it.

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Speaker 3: My mom's are sweeted like everyone said the same, but

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Speaker 3: mom just doesn't understand this world. Sometimes she's like, well,

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Speaker 3: how does that work? And just anyway, she's so sweet.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the restaurant flop difficult hurdle. What is one

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Speaker 1: piece of advice you would give to yourself at that time?

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Speaker 3: Now it sounds so stupid and it sounds like I

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Speaker 3: want to say cliche, but just stick your course because

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Speaker 3: the position I'm in right now, I am so much stronger,

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Speaker 3: and I have my feet on the ground still, and

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Speaker 3: I'm so much stronger, and everything that's happened in the past,

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Speaker 3: you know two and a half years has happened for

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Speaker 3: a reason. I really believe that, and to go through

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Speaker 3: what I did is one of the best things that

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Speaker 3: I can do for my sustainability in what I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to do. The best thing that the worst thing you

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Speaker 3: can happen is have three things that I've done and

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Speaker 3: all three things succeed. In my opinion, I'd rather fail

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Speaker 3: seven things after doing ten and make three succeed because

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Speaker 3: I've learned seven things out of those ten. You know

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Speaker 3: that I failed that I can tell other people about.

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Speaker 3: And so the fact that that situation took place and

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Speaker 3: everything else that's happened that it's been a massive hurdle.

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Speaker 3: I now take that and I'm able to with confidence

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Speaker 3: tell the world what they should be doing differently, like

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Speaker 3: talking about building a brand, stick with your consistency to

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Speaker 3: not go outside your core values. Those kinds of things.

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Speaker 3: I'm super stoked that I never did, because that's why

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Speaker 3: these opportunities that have come my way. Have been super

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Speaker 3: genuine and you just say no to the ones that

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Speaker 3: you know on nowhere knew what you were like and

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Speaker 3: what you stand for.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Give me the cross streets of where New Yorkers can

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Speaker 1: find Charlie Street.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, guys, Charlie Street is going to be in

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Speaker 3: your know later forty one ken Mere. It's on ken

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Speaker 3: Mare Street between Elizabeth and Mott And we're getting a

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Speaker 3: littleffee window put in, So just if you want a

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Speaker 3: little coffee to come by and chill out the front

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Speaker 3: and a beautiful morning with some Vitamin D shining on.

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Speaker 3: You got you back?

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Speaker 1: You said mid June, right, yeah, mid June. That's the hope. Yeah, awesome,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for sitting down with me.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for hanging in.

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Speaker 1: We all face multiple hurdles in life. I want to

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Hurdle podcast Dan.

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Speaker 2: Where do they find you? What's the deal?

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Speaker 3: I guess probably the most active is Instagram, so just

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Speaker 3: bet Dan underscore Churchill. But if you have any questions

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Speaker 3: me Twitter. Church will underscore Dan. I'll just reach out

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Speaker 3: to my website and if you want to a book

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Speaker 3: or anything like that, just yeah, head to the website.

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Speaker 3: Just just DM Dan, Just damn Dan, just chat.

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Speaker 1: I am at Emily a baddy things Again, another hurdle conquered.

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