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Speaker 1: John Middlicoff, the former NFL scout, got his three and

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Speaker 1: Out podcast. Let's just start with the Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 1: twenty eight end zone interception Bears twenty one. Caleb didn't

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Speaker 1: down multiple notes during the game, John, and all these

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Speaker 1: young quarterbacks, Shooter Sanders, bow Nicks, they're all on the

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy was pretty good, but in the second half,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought the Bears were a big winner today.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at one point in time, it's fourteen to

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Speaker 2: the physicality of that game. But to me, running the

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Speaker 2: They got two running backs who were good. Josh Jacobs

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Speaker 2: on that final drive, the game winning drive, I mean

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Speaker 2: I mean, that was it.

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Speaker 2: That was fantastic theater. I mean, I was. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: And you know what's interesting is the Packers have done it.

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Speaker 2: He looks every bit the same as Swift. So now

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Speaker 1: Isn't that great?

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Speaker 2: Right? They make plays then they come through in big moments.

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Speaker 1: I thought Mike Tomlin got a little lucky today because

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Speaker 2: this thing's kind of going to fall apart here, and

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Speaker 2: Rogers just a pretty elementary play, drops it off to Warren.

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Speaker 2: He walks in for a touchdown. There's no one even

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Speaker 2: around him. So it went from twenty to sixteen to

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Speaker 2: boom twenty seven to sixteen. And the way that the

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Speaker 2: Ravens are playing on offense, it's like, I don't they're

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Speaker 2: in trouble and they are just listening. They dug themselves

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Speaker 2: in a hole early in the season, they don't look

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Speaker 2: right and clear their quarterback's banged up, and I listen,

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Speaker 2: Rogers is taking shots and everyone needs to shut up

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Speaker 2: about us, like you guys have been losing game after

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Speaker 2: game and looking terrible. So I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I bet against him pretty big this week. I had

440
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Speaker 2: little to no faith in the Steelers, but I thought

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Speaker 2: today was as much of an indictment in the Ravens

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Speaker 2: just they're just not very good like the Steelers. If

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Speaker 2: they are the four seed playing whoever that they end

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Speaker 2: up drawing, I'd be stunned if they win a playoff game.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think all these stories coming out the

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Speaker 2: last couple of days about Tom's contract set up like

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Speaker 2: that the Rooney. I think these thing's kind of being

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Speaker 2: laid out like there's you know, we're coming to the

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Speaker 2: end of the road.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I also think Kansas City doesn't feel the same.

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Speaker 1: But Kansas City was getting the Super Bowls, Baltimore wasn't

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Speaker 1: winning playoff games, and they feel less than that. Sober

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Speaker 1: Baltimore the previous two years has blown out more teams

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Speaker 1: than anybody in the sport. The Lions the previous two years,

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Speaker 1: and the Ravens have kicked a uno out of teams

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Speaker 1: four to five times. Now, Seattle's the team this year

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Speaker 1: that has beaten six teams by two touchdowns or more. So,

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Speaker 1: they're just something that's not right.

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Speaker 2: So I look at click at both those two teams, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've had their moments. The Lions were the

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Speaker 2: number one seed last year. Two years ago, they had

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Speaker 2: the Niners up twenty four to seven at halftime in

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Speaker 2: the NFC Championship. The Ravens have the home field two

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Speaker 2: years ago, lost to the Chiefs. Last year, it's like

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Speaker 2: they should beat the Bills in the second round, they

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Speaker 2: lose the game. Kind of feels like they're little moments

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Speaker 2: for both those two teams. Kind of shut.

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Speaker 1: And now for our next segment, Whiskey Business. Yes, Whiskey

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Speaker 1: Business brought to you by Green River Whiskey, the official

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Speaker 1: whiskey of the Colin Coward Podcast. Okay, I want to

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Speaker 1: go to college football for the next ten to fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: Then we'll come back to Bengals, Bills and some of

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Speaker 1: the NFL stuff. So I thought the committee and this John,

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Speaker 1: I feel like this happens every year because college football

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Speaker 1: is so tribal. A lot of college football fans, they

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Speaker 1: live in a small town, it's their team. If you

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Speaker 1: live in Philadelphia, you love the Phillies, you love the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: you're a sixer fan, you love Villanova basketball. You've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of different you know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: different stuff in your life. You travel a lot. For

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Speaker 1: college football fans, they live and breathe with their team.

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Speaker 1: Often it's the biggest entertainment in their state or in

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Speaker 1: their town. So we argue, we yell, we scream. I

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Speaker 1: basically thought, I mean, you can you can say what

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Speaker 1: you want about Alabama, but they're favored over Oklahoma, so

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Speaker 1: they're obviously one of the twelve best teams. They listen Georgia.

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Speaker 1: They had people knock Alabama getting in over Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: They did go to Athens and beat Georgia. There is

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Speaker 1: some value in that, you know, Notre Dame. My take

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Speaker 1: on Notre Dame is all you had to do is

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Speaker 1: either beat Miami or beat Texas A and M. You

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Speaker 1: had to win one of those two games and you didn't.

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Speaker 1: So USC, which has been a bad road team, can't

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Speaker 1: be your big w Go ask USC fans they're disappointed

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Speaker 1: in their season. That's like beating Michigan this year, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't really count for much. Michigan's really not very good

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Speaker 1: with a true freshman quarterback. So I thought Bien. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't put Tulane in or James Madison, but I've

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Speaker 1: never been a believer in the little guy. We all

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Speaker 1: know who recruits the best players. Although I do think

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Speaker 1: Tulane can beat Old miss But I think going Indianajan

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Speaker 1: Ohio State to Georgia three, Texas Tech four, I have

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Speaker 1: no problem with it. I think Bama Oklahoma is a

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Speaker 1: great game. I probably take Bama close. I like Miami

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Speaker 1: against Texas A and M and MS favored by four

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Speaker 1: and a half. But I thought I thought getting Miami

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Speaker 1: in was the key to all of this, so I

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Speaker 1: wasn't deep bothered. Listen, Texas, you lose three games, and

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Speaker 1: by the way, you were in close games against a

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Speaker 1: lot of bad teams. Did it bother you? Were you

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Speaker 1: okay with a final result?

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Speaker 2: No? I wasn't because I do think back to the

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Speaker 2: little guy you know better than me. But it clearly

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Speaker 2: fell a couple of years ago when they created this,

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Speaker 2: and they included that a non Power five team would

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Speaker 2: essentially be a lock. It felt like they did that

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Speaker 2: so they didn't get sued, right and basically just have

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Speaker 2: it for the top four power conferences. And I got

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Speaker 2: my starting football at Fresno State, which was playing Boise State,

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Speaker 2: which I would say Utah and Boise State kind of

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Speaker 2: created we deserve a seat at the table. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: look back at Utah before they became what they've become

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Speaker 2: at the Power four level, they had a team with

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Speaker 2: probably ten pros on some of their better teams. Boys.

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Speaker 2: I was at President when we played Boise State, they

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Speaker 2: had eleven guys drafted on a team and they were

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Speaker 2: beating Oregon in Georgia. Those teams are outlied. They have

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Speaker 2: nothing in common with JMU and to end, so to me,

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Speaker 2: to have this setup and allow them a guaranteed seat

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Speaker 2: at the table, and this year got all screwed up

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Speaker 2: because the ACC sucked and two of their teams you know,

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Speaker 2: took spots is a joke. And to me, what has

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Speaker 2: to happen is the Power for needs to have their

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Speaker 2: own playoff. We don't need to invite them, and the

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Speaker 2: non the Group of five whatever they call it, have

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Speaker 2: their own playoff, and the Division one have a playoff

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Speaker 2: because I think that's where we need to go because

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Speaker 2: the Notre Dame Miami argument only became an argument because

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Speaker 2: Tulane and JMU were taking a spot Alabama kicking us

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Speaker 2: out for playing a game when a bunch of teams

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Speaker 2: did not have to play a game yesterday and google

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Speaker 2: our schedule. We were playing a lot of teams. They

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Speaker 2: had a stretch of like four straight games. It was

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Speaker 2: really impressive. I remember everyone bragging about it, and then

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Speaker 2: everyone just forgets about it because they get their ass

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Speaker 2: kicked by Kirby Smart, who I don't know, is like

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Speaker 2: the modern day new Nick Saban, So it's like who

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Speaker 2: literally was trained by him. The problem is the little guy,

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Speaker 2: And if you're comparing the Boise State with Chris Peterson,

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Speaker 2: that's an outlier little guy team. You know who that was.

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Speaker 2: That was a team that probably could have won a

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Speaker 2: national championship. Tu Lane, I'm with you. I watched it

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Speaker 2: on Friday. They look pretty good. Their coach is also

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Speaker 2: his foot's half out, he's already ready to take on right.

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Speaker 2: So even if the same thing with JMU, their coach

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Speaker 2: is UCLA. So I immediately, like most people, what is

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Speaker 2: JMU a three touchdown underdog. What is Tulane almost We

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Speaker 2: saw Tulane play Old miss who people say, you know,

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Speaker 2: before Lane left could have won a national championship. I

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Speaker 2: think that's a little bit of a stretch. They can

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Speaker 2: win a playoff game or two. They're not winning a

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Speaker 2: national chamber, but they're a real playoff team. They played Tulane,

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Speaker 2: they won forty five to ten. The committee screwed up

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Speaker 2: like Notre Dame and listen, I don't know where you stand.

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Speaker 2: They did not handle it well, like quitting the bowl game.

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Speaker 2: It's like, guys, did they pulled like you know you

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Speaker 2: can during that period of time. I know you can

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Speaker 2: play to young guys practices, So it's a very you

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Speaker 2: know you're big on don't make emotional decisions. That clearly

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Speaker 2: feels like very emotional decision that no way they pull

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Speaker 2: they were gonna go to Florida and play BYU. You

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Speaker 2: can't get anything out of that week. You're not going

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs either way. You might as well take

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Speaker 2: advantage of, I don't know, a free five day vacation

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Speaker 2: in Florida to work on your program and get some

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Speaker 2: And here's the other thing. Most guys in college football,

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Speaker 2: even at Georgia don't play in the NFL. So you

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Speaker 2: got a lot of seniors on Notre Dame that are

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Speaker 2: gonna be working at Goldman Sacks here in six months.

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Speaker 2: You don't think they there's like, coach, you quit. And

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Speaker 2: I have a lot of respect for Marcus Freeman, and

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Speaker 2: who knows it might not have been all his call, right,

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Speaker 2: that's that's an embarrassing call. But to me, it all

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Speaker 2: gets back to the non Power four teams getting involved

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Speaker 2: is screwed everything up and created this situation where a

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Speaker 2: pitted Notre Dame in Miami and it's like, what Notre

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Speaker 2: Dame in Miami have nothing in common with two late

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Speaker 2: especially James Madison.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I think sometimes it remember when COVID hit,

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Speaker 1: we just kind of made stuff up for two years.

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Speaker 1: We didn't know. Anytime you have a transition, we're seeing

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Speaker 1: it with AI. We saw it with dot Com thirty

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Speaker 1: years ago. Sometimes in certain sports or in certain businesses,

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Speaker 1: it changes rapidly. I mean we went from not we

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Speaker 1: went from paying a player's the death penalty to bidding

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Speaker 1: wars on high school players. And I mean so literally

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Speaker 1: the thing that literally got you SMU death penalty is

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Speaker 1: now you brag about it and it happened overnight, so

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Speaker 1: there was no guardrails, and then transfer portals like wilder

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Speaker 1: than free agency and coaches making twelve million. So I've

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Speaker 1: seen it with a pandemic. I've seen it with AI,

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Speaker 1: I've seen it all politically with Trump. Oh, this is

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Speaker 1: a different kind of white house. College football is going

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Speaker 1: through this wild transition and they're not quite there yet.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, I don't listen. Go look at national

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Speaker 1: signing Day, Alabama, Notre Dame, USC Oregon, Ohio State, Michigan.

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Speaker 1: We all know Georgia LSU. We all know who's got.

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Speaker 2: The Miami Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Mario Christobal, I mean when you watched Miami play,

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Speaker 1: and that was my take on Miami. You can't let

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Speaker 1: Miami go. First of all, they have better O and

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Speaker 1: D lines than Notre Dame. And I was talking about

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Speaker 1: this the other day on the air. Notre Dame played

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Speaker 1: seven teams rated below one hundred. Defensively, they played one

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Speaker 1: great defensive team one Miami and Jeremiah Love rushed for

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Speaker 1: thirty three yards. They literally couldn't run the ball. You

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Speaker 1: just had to beat Miami or Texas. A and m

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Speaker 1: you had to beat one of them. You couldn't beat either.

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Speaker 1: And so once I watched the Pittsburgh game, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I started deep diving, sitting at home, googling NCAA stats,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, this isn't right. So I did think

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Speaker 1: the committee moved them next to each other, knowing BYU

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Speaker 1: was going to get the you know what kicked out

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Speaker 1: of the mgame by text, and when they lost, they

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00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: could leap Frogham. That I was happy with. And I

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Speaker 1: actually like Miami. I think Miami is going to beat

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Speaker 1: A and m I think Bama's gonna it's Oklahoma they'll beat.

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Speaker 1: I think Bama is a favorite, will win. I just

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Speaker 1: think we're going through.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Oregon's going to murder these guys.

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Speaker 1: Thinks Oregon could win by forty ol Miss Tulane. I

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Speaker 1: literally nobody who cares. I don't even but I guess

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Speaker 1: I came out of it. I will say this, but

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame saying we're not going to go to the bull. Baylor,

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Speaker 1: I think has come out saying we're not going to

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Speaker 1: accept the ball. I do think it's a moment in

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Speaker 1: time where bowl games are in big trouble and John,

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Speaker 1: you know me and you've listened to me. I am

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Speaker 1: a big believer and live your life through the windshield. Listen,

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Speaker 1: the PAC twelve people calling, why didn't you fight for

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Speaker 1: the PAC twelve because the PAC twelve teams were making

642
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars in the Big ten were making ninety

643
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: million the year it was. I was talking to USC,

644
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,040
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645
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: can't compete. So the four best, or you know, at

646
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: least three of the four Washington, Oregon, USC are like, okay,

647
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna, especially USC and Oregon, we're gonna we're gonna

648
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: double our money here or is it USC UCLA double?

649
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: I forget which us he is for sure, So I'm

650
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: not somebody that just I think we'd seen enough of

651
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: COAL against Washington State and Oregon State against Arizona. So

652
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: my take is that really bothered people, the convergence. But

653
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: clearly the ratings are up, we're getting more big games.

654
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: We have to now get over the bulls. They just

655
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: don't matter. And John, I don't think conference championships matter

656
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,479
Speaker 1: going forward. I would get rid of them as well.

657
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. Next. I think that's why,

658
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: you know, the conversation over the last forty eight definitely

659
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: twenty four hours was Alabama getting booted. Well N tier

660
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: until we know for sure it's concrete that the conference

661
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: championships are done, these people in the committee could not

662
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: get rid of Alabama because they lost in a game

663
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: that that is very economically important. I tried to explain

664
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: to Maria last night. I'm like, it is amazing how

665
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: hard Ohio State, like I got Indiana trying really hard.

666
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: Ohio State's defending champs. They could lose this game, they'll

667
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: be too Yet they played that game like it was

668
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: the national champion and I respected it because like this

669
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: game doesn't really matter, you know, but it felt like

670
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: a national championship, but the other games didn't really and

671
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: I think they've lost a little juice. What I think

672
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: is clearly going to happen is they're going to expand

673
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: it to sixteen and the Conference championship game will turn

674
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Speaker 2: into more of a play in game Weekend where the

675
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Speaker 2: SEC played Texas Vanderbilt playing I don't know who the

676
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 2: two teams would be in the Big ten USC for someone,

677
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: and that that game is basically like the NBA kind

678
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Speaker 2: of did with their playing game. You win, you're in

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Speaker 2: the You're in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: won the head to head. So in the end, the

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Speaker 1: go look at the final rankings, is that it did

691
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: matter to the committee? No, I think listen, think about

692
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Speaker 1: the changes in college football A and IL. You can

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Speaker 1: pay players, B, the transfer portals, the wild Wild West

694
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Speaker 1: C Bulls don't matter, D is going to be Conference

695
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: championships don't matter. Oh, I forgot to have mentioned we

696
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Speaker 1: now have a twelve team playoff that'll move to sixteen.

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Speaker 1: I will say one of my real takes because it

698
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: made me happy that Miami made it in. It made

699
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: it feel more credible. Fernando Mendoza. I've now watched them

700
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: begainst Ohio State and Penn State, neither game at home,

701
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: and they have good receivers. I'm not saying that, dude, big,

702
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: big arm, accurate, deep. I felt like he secured the

703
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: number one pick. I thought Tennessee won today, so we'll

704
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: see who gets the number one pick. If it's the

705
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: Jets or Tennessee. He looks like such a lock as

706
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: the number one pick to me.

707
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Raiders are still very alive too, for the

708
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: number one pick. They lost again.

709
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry the postgame interview. He's got that

710
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: aw shucks Andrew luck thing, big smart, hard worker, big arm,

711
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: great deep ball. You could just watch the Penn State

712
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: in Ohio State games. Take two drives out of those games.

713
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: His accuracy that last drive. You and I talked about

714
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: it at Penn State. Jesus, he went like five for five.

715
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: They were all gorgeous, those Ohio State corners. John, That's

716
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: the best secondary in college football in years. You had

717
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: to have. It was like tiny, little football sized spaces

718
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: to put the ball.

719
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think not that he gets crushed for,

720
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: but definitely people in the league bring up. You know,

721
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: he's goofy, nerdy, kind of like Cousins was at the

722
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: same age. Yeah, but physically he's in, you know, from

723
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: an athletic standpoint, from a deep ball standpoint. I thought

724
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: yesterday at halftime, a couple of people text me, like,

725
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: what do you think, Like, I've been pretty impressed. He's

726
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: playing the best defense in the country. No one moves

727
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 2: the they don't give up ten points. No one moves

728
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: the ball on this team. His uh, the kid who

729
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: caught the game when he touchdown at Penn State, Omar Kelly.

730
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: He got the guy got hurt in like the first drive.

731
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: Indiana is not you know, USC and their heyday. He

732
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: only had they don't have unlimited weapons. So he starts.

733
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 2: You know, he's got the one guy that caught the touchdown,

734
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: Sarat who's a really good player, but like he had

735
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: to manufacture some stuff. He made a couple of plays

736
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: rolling out side, arming the ball, his arm strength. He's big.

737
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 2: I was. I was blown away. I have no clue

738
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: what his stats were. I don't care. I thought top

739
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: start to finish. You know, he gets destroyed on the

740
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: first play of the game. I mean absolutely hammered. Shakes

741
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 2: it off, and I thought obviously the game winning essentially

742
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: passed at the end of the game. But I thought

743
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: he was fantastic from a physical standpoint of just the

744
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: attributes that teams look for, poise, calmness, arm strength. How

745
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: do you do it? Like no one cares when you

746
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 2: throw five touchdowns against one of the Rutgers or Maryland.

747
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: That game means nothing to all the gms in the league. Honestly,

748
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: they might not even watch it. What is the point

749
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: I am watching this game? I thought he made himself

750
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: because again it's just I don't think this quarterback class

751
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 2: is clearly viewed super highly. And we'll see what Dante

752
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: Moore chooses to do, because he could still make himself

753
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: a lot of money and play really well. But I

754
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,479
Speaker 2: would say Mendoza as we sit here right now, would

755
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: be it would be pretty stunning if he's not, you know,

756
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: the number one or two pick depending. I mean, Moore's

757
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: a little bit of a wild card wealf to see.

758
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: I mean, because they could win the national championship. He

759
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: could play great. His oc leaves maybe he knows that,

760
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: you know, the quarterback's leaving now. Granted, I think will

761
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 2: Stein's dad played at Kentucky, so it's not as crazy

762
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: of a move. But yeah, I'm with you there really

763
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 2: quick on the Notre Dame thing, because you look at

764
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: you know, even Indiana, people go, well, they didn't really

765
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 2: you know, beside the organ game, look at their schedule.

766
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 2: They're still playing. Like when you play conference games, you

767
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: build up over time a rapport and little rivalries and

768
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: knowledge of the other coade Like it's intense.

769
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: Just watch fifty.

770
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like playing Illinois is much more like Notre Dame.

771
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: Here's where I feel no sorrow and no empathy for

772
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: their situation. They play in a situation where if they

773
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: make the playoffs, they get to keep all the money.

774
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 2: They don't have split it with any conference partners. They

775
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: mix and match their schedule every year, Like I'm sorry, guys,

776
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: it's time to change, Like, let's just join one of

777
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 2: these conferences and get with the program. You no longer

778
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: get to just be your own little NZ out there

779
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: making all this money with NBC, mixing and matching a schedule.

780
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: Because even that Indiana, Ohio, State, Alabama, you name it,

781
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 2: their schedule changes year to year. It doesn't change that much.

782
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: Maybe they missed one of the top but it's still

783
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 2: going on the road, because this is what I think

784
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: Kaylin de Boor would say. We had just a random

785
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: road game, even against a down Tennessee. That's a lot

786
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: harder than some of this crap that Notre Dame hass

787
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: to do on the road.

788
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: Notre Dame again, Notre Dame played one great defensive line Miami,

789
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: and Miami Notre Dame's run game completely dried up right back.

790
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: Olroy talked about it last night. He's like, I rewatched

791
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: the game this morning and I was like, God, they

792
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: got dominated in the trenches in that game. Yeah.

793
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: No, Miami's got better line play by far, So it doesn't.

794
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: And that's my takeaway if you really examine Notre dame schedule,

795
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: this is why Notre Dame desperately wants to play USC.

796
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: They that's why they signed a five year deal with Clemson.

797
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: Notre Dame signed a five year deal with Clemson. That's

798
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: what because they they'll get it. They're gonna get these

799
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: years where they play the weakest of the ACC. It's

800
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: why they're outraged when anybody brings up the us USC game.

801
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: USC doesn't need Notre Dame. You've seen have you seen

802
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: USC scheduled next year in the Ohio State, Oregon, Michigan.

803
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: They play everybody. They don't know where they play. But

804
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: it's like the last thing you need to another Notre

805
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: Dame game. So I've always liked Notre Dame. I respect

806
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: it that their kids are real student athletes. But if

807
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: you're going to play this game and toggle between conference

808
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: and independent, go examine Notre Dame schedule. How bad the

809
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: defenses they played? I think it's seven teams they played

810
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: had defenses under one hundredth there's only one hundred and

811
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: what thirty eight college football teams. Seven of the teams

812
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: they played were under one hundred defensively, so they looked

813
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: like a powerhouse.

814
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Speaker 2: Do you think I was thinking about this last night.

815
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Speaker 2: I understand that the you know, it's less than a

816
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: five point spread, right, I think Indiana was plus four

817
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: and a half when the game kicked off. I did

818
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: feel though the outcome that Indiana actually won that game,

819
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: And I don't feel on being super hyperbolic. Here is

820
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: one of the crazier outcomes college sports I've ever seen. Obviously,

821
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: Indiana's really good. They have a quarterback. They might go

822
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: want their coach Saban like it's not like as crazy

823
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: once you get add context to it, and all those

824
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: games they lost for decades kind of irrelevant to this

825
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 2: two years but still for them, and I get it,

826
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: they a big home field advantage. But Ohio State tried

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Speaker 2: like it wasn't like you know, they're kind of mailing

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Speaker 2: it in, Like Ohio State really tried. They hadnt won

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Speaker 2: I don't. Ohio State really hasn't won this game in

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Speaker 1: sold near you. Indiana's defensive line pushed the Buckeyes O

866
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Speaker 1: line around. Julian sand was running. I mean, it was

867
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: a pop evaporate no Indiana. That's my takeaway. Mendoz's unbelievable

868
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: talent at quarterback. Signette is a great coach, but Indiana's

869
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: d line is big, and if you watch the matchups,

870
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: they bullied Ohio State like they went. They bull rushed.

871
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: They weren't they weren't trying to be clever, speed rushed.

872
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: They bull rushed the buck eyes and pushed them back.

873
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: It was fun.

874
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. To me, that was a type win that almost

875
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: gets you a contract for life, you know, I know,

876
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 2: when you become the number one seed and that like

877
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: if they get to the final four, and let's say

878
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: they lose in the final four, I think that Ohio

879
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: State win is unless they win the national championship, is win.

880
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: Just given that, think how long they've been in that conference,

881
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: playing that team. I think what they say last night,

882
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 2: I didn't write it down like sixty six straight times

883
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: or eighty one straight games, whatever the number one. It

884
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: was insane. Bet they never beat Ohio State because they

885
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: have probably at minimum of four touchdown underdog when they

886
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: play them, and then to beat them like that in

887
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: that moment that that was that was incredible theater. I

888
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: mean it was that. That's one of the coolest college

889
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: games I've watched along. I didn't even have a dog

890
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: in the fight. I was just kind of enjoying it.

891
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the and the other thing to note is

892
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: that I think it was a tough spot for Ohio State.

893
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: It felt like the biggest game in the history of

894
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: Indiana football by a long shot. You just beat Michigan

895
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: because it was yeah, you're the national champions and it's

896
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: really about the playoff, and everybody in your locker room knows, Yeah,

897
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: we lost to Michigan last year. That went in a role.

898
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: So what's happening in college football for these big powerhouse

899
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: teams like Alabama didn't really want to have to play

900
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: Georgia again. Ohio State would have rather met Indiana in

901
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: two or three weeks for the first time now the

902
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: advantage goes to Ohio State. Like those players are like

903
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: if they play Indiana again, it's like, oh guys, we

904
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: faced these guys. I got to tell you my takeaway

905
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: on that game coming out of it was and I

906
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: kind of felt this going into it. But in any order,

907
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: you want Indiana, Georgia, Ohio State. I think those are

908
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: the three best teams. And I don't think it's that close.

909
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 1: I really don't.

910
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: I do think Oregon could throw their hat in. They've

911
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: looked really good coming down the stretch.

912
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: And that gets hard to judge. John. They've been so

913
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: beat up offensively. They don't have any of their receivers

914
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: for all the big games I watched them, they were

915
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: never healthy.

916
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: My question is I agree with you in the Ohio

917
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: State thing, But then why would Ryan Day kick the

918
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: field goal late in the game? Like what does easy defending? Im?

919
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: Just the Michigan What does he have to look like?

920
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: Who cares?

921
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: Like?

922
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: Just play to win? That was a weird moment for him.

923
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: I was like, what is going on?

924
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: I didn't like that call at all. I kind of

925
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: feel and I kind of feel like Indiana would have

926
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: stopped him anyway, just the way there the pass rush

927
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: was Yeah, that was one of those things where I

928
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: also think sometimes you do a play call because it

929
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: makes you feel big. It's like a confidence builder for

930
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: your team. You can you can go crazy on but

931
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: if you have their receivers and you have I mean,

932
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: Ohio State's got on average better players, you kind of

933
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: played into Indiana's hands kicking.

934
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: The field goal well, and Klatt said it is last

935
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: year with Will Howard. They had a physical running element

936
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 2: with their quarterback. So they had the running backs, they

937
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: had the quarterback who could move, and they had the

938
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: wide receivers. Like saying, ain't really breaking a tackle on

939
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: a fourth and one, right, So you are a little

940
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: little limited. You still have two guys that I don't

941
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: know where Tate's gonna go in the draft, of my

942
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 2: guess would be high. Jeremiah Smith would go higher if

943
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: he could come out. And I didn't know Bo Jackson

944
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: still played football because that kid looked fantastic.

945
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 1: He's great.

946
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: So it's like, I'm sorry, you're Ohio State. You have

947
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: the best you know, roster money can buy. The talent

948
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: is elite, even if your quarterbacks, like you're the defending champs.

949
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 2: The insecurity for Ryan Day. He even beat Michigan seven dight, like,

950
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 2: what do you got to lose?

951
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

952
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: And Signetti, I mean they One thing you'd say about

953
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: Signetti is his team immediately turned into just one of

954
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: the toughest teams in the country physically. That's what's the

955
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: eye opening part. They look kind of like Harbos's Michigan team,

956
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: don't they.

957
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I thought. I remember when Harball went

958
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: to the PAC twelve and took over Stanford and it

959
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: was year two and everybody was like, oh, the most

960
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: physical team by far is Stanford, not USC and p

961
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: Carroll like Michigan's or Stanford's way more physical. People say

962
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: Signetti is a little cocky, but I think for Indiana

963
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 1: he has to be. He wants, you know, you're trying

964
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: to elevate your players to believe and the self belief.

965
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: I mean there was some trash talking, Like Indiana guys

966
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: are trash talking, and I'm okay with it. I think

967
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: that's there at the stage in their program where they

968
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: do need to stand up to Ohio State and have

969
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: a little chip on their shoulders. So and I think

970
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: in the NIL era it's easier for an older coach

971
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: to succeed, like I don't think Belichick. I think Belichick

972
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: would have been a disaster in college football ten years ago.

973
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: He may still be a disaster. But in the NIL

974
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: you can buy half your roster. So Signetti doesn't need

975
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: thirty nine year old or forty two year old you know,

976
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: or Lane Kiff and energy, you don't need it. You

977
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: can buy a lot of players. So we got ourselves

978
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: another big ten power in Indiana. Let's go back to

979
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: the NFL. Buffalo Josh Allen plays Superman in the fourth quarter,

980
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: beats the Bengals thirty nine thirty four. Burrow had a

981
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: really bad pick six. But listen Cincinnati, and this is

982
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: why I have questions about Buffalo. Joe Burrows twenty five

983
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: and thirty six, two hundred and thirty four yards great

984
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: on third down, six yards of play, basically had a

985
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: really bad pick six. But to go to Buffalo and

986
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: snow and drop thirty four, I don't know. I mean, listen.

987
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's top two targets were tight ends. Gabe Davis

988
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: was his big receiving target, had two catches. They just

989
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: pulled Gabe Davis back to the team. They're very much

990
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,959
Speaker 1: about Allen and their tight ends. I just I thought

991
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: to myself, did Josh Allen and Christian Bedford did they

992
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: Did they save Sean mcdermot's job. What if he loses

993
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: at home to the four and eight Cincinnati Bengals. What

994
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 1: would our discussion be tonight? What would it be tomorrow

995
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: in the country. Because I felt from a lot of

996
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: the game since Nay out schemed him and out played him. Now,

997
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo did have a fumble at like the two yard line. Boy,

998
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: I am just a I just so. I had the

999
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: Bengals winning this game plus six. I money lined it.

1000
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make a Buffalo. I don't

1001
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: trust him. They can't defend the run. Burrow moved up

1002
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 1: and down the field and just had a terrible pick six.

1003
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy how good he is coming off the

1004
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: long layoff in the middle of the season. It's those

1005
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: are the two best quarterbacks in the league right now.

1006
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I Burrow had the two plays that obviously

1007
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: cost him the game. It's twenty eight to twenty five,

1008
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: since he and since he is driving, and I thought,

1009
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: is this how this is gonna end for Buffalo? Now,

1010
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: granted the Bengals have kind of owned the Bills, right,

1011
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 2: but it's like, you know, this guy's missed the whole season.

1012
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 2: They're four and eight, their defense stinks, You're gonna lose

1013
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 2: this team. And it felt like it was twenty eight

1014
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 2: twenty five, they're gonna score, and all of a sudden,

1015
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: it's gonna be thirty five to twenty five and the

1016
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: math is just not gonna math for the Bills. And

1017
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: then he throws the pick six and then the next

1018
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 2: he throws another pick and they score again, and it

1019
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: flips like that. I mean it really flipped. Within literally

1020
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: two plays. It was back to back passes for two

1021
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: picks and one was seven points and the other immediately

1022
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 2: led to seven. And Josh Allen, who is he gonna

1023
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: win the MVP or not? I don't know, but he's

1024
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: the best player in the league. Like I don't know

1025
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 2: how you just because physically, what like what Burrow can

1026
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: do is he's the most mobile pocket passer, you know.

1027
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 2: I maybe since Rogers in his heyday, and Rogers probably

1028
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: a better athlete than Joe. But like the Mannings, the Brady's,

1029
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: the Montana, they didn't maybe Montana a little bit in

1030
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: his younger days. His movement in the pocket. He's not

1031
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 2: a runner. He is just a passer, it is. And

1032
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 2: his dominance now, he grew up in Ohio. He is

1033
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 2: so comfortable. How good he was early in that game,

1034
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: You're like, jeez, how's he s so good in the snow? Yeah,

1035
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 2: you know, he's just his timing is really he had drops.

1036
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: They dropped a ball in the end, so they had

1037
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: several drops. It could have been a better day. And

1038
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,479
Speaker 2: this is the thing I think where they would feel

1039
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 2: pretty good. It's like, hey, listen, we pay two wide

1040
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: receivers and some people would debate is that the right

1041
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: way to invest. They did a pretty good job on

1042
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: Chase today and Higgins look like, I don't know Calvin

1043
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: Johnson out there, I mean he was, oh my god.

1044
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: And right when he hits that, you're like, are the

1045
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: Bengals gonna get right back in this game? I mean

1046
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: they scored in like two plays. The Bills defense, Josh

1047
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 2: Allen is clearly good enough to win a championship. Their

1048
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: team is not. You cannot you have no chance in

1049
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: the College football playoff or the NFL playoffs. Why do

1050
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: the Packers have a chance not because their offense. Their

1051
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: offense is fine, it's they have a championship defense Denver.

1052
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: You have to have an elite defense to have a

1053
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: chance to win in these big games in January. And

1054
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: it's how do you trust the bill? They can't cover anybody.

1055
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: Other pass rushes very hit or miss. They always get

1056
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: a bunch of injuries. I mean, Josh is doing things

1057
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 2: today that I mean some plays you look like Michael Vick's.

1058
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 2: Other players will look like Cam Newton, other players that

1059
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: look like Tom Brady. It's it's it's remarkable. And they

1060
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 2: got bailed out by the two interceptions, which listen, the

1061
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 2: Bears have kind of like that this year. But you

1062
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 2: can't win a championship hoping for a turnover.

1063
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: Well, when I watched when I watched New England go

1064
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1065
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: think I'd argue the Patriots are in a little bit

1066
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Speaker 1: of a rebuild. I still think they need one more draft,

1067
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: and they need to get a little more explosive in

1068
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: the run game. They need a number one receiver. They're

1069
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Speaker 1: o lines. Okay. When I watched New England beat them,

1070
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Speaker 1: I was just like this, I mean, God, Vrabel just

1071
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: got the town, and I feel they've got a lot

1072
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: of good Okay, Josh is great. I like James Cook

1073
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: a lot, But I just think when I look at Buffalo,

1074
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot of good players. And

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00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: then I watched Detroit, or I watch the Rams, or

1076
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: I watched Green Bay, and I see great players. I

1077
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of great players with outside of

1078
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I just I think Dion Dawkins is a

1079
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: very good left tackle. James Cook I like a lot,

1080
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: but I mean watched Drake may move the ball in him.

1081
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: I Joe Burrow today and that one pick sixth right,

1082
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: it was the line through about four yards. You're like,

1083
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: oh god, Joe. But when they came back and I

1084
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: mean literally they threw the ball to the tight end

1085
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: that used to play at Miami, Mike, is it Gseki? Yeah,

1086
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: I mean you made it one at cash and then

1087
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: there's like all play later You're like, they're in the

1088
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: end zone. I mean, that just can't. You're on the road,

1089
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: it's snowing. That's not the way you can score. So

1090
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: they're I just I think the one thing Buffalo has

1091
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: going for him, Josh and James Cook can pick up

1092
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: first downs and they're they're a tight end dominant team

1093
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: if they play in crappy weather in New England, Buffalo,

1094
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: wherever they play, they're kind of built for crappy weather

1095
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: because they they're not a vertical team. I mean, they

1096
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 1: just gave Davis had two catches. That was their big

1097
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 1: receiving target. Where they're the opposite of the Miami Dolphins,

1098
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: like when they had Waddle and Tyree. They're kind of

1099
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: they're kind of built for crappy weather because I mean,

1100
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Speaker 1: I generally you don't want a great quarterback to play

1101
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: in the snow, but their defense is so mediocre you

1102
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 1: don't want to play on a fast track if you're Buffalo.

1103
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: I think it feels like now, I get they've had

1104
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 2: some injuries over the years, but part of defense, especially

1105
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 2: when you're good, you got to hit on some random

1106
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 2: like third like you gotta find like a Landman, you know,

1107
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: you gotta find like a random guy in the third

1108
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 2: or fourth round that becomes an All Pro. And you

1109
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: just watch their defensive talent, you're like, I don't really

1110
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 2: see it, and then immediately you know Maxwell, the kid

1111
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: they drafted from Kentucky, they're depending on him to be

1112
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 2: like their best defensive back. They had a pretty bad week.

1113
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: I mean, this is kind of inside baseball, but they

1114
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 2: cut a guy that they liked to claim Darius Slay.

1115
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: He quits, the kid they cut gets claimed by the Texans,

1116
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, they're just out a guy.

1117
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 2: And those are the type moves when you're the Bills.

1118
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: It's one thing if you're just the Cardinals and you're

1119
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 2: just doing different moves the Bills are, you can't. That's

1120
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: a pretty devastating type transaction, especially when the guy that

1121
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 2: you cut gets claimed by another probably playoff team in

1122
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 2: the Texans. You're just like, this is this is not ideal,

1123
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 2: especially on the defensive side of the ball. I'd also say,

1124
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 2: if you're the Bills, the Steelers defense has been beyond

1125
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 2: awful and they just cut Darius Lay. Why are you

1126
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: even messing with that? Why would you even want to

1127
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 2: acquire him? So I just think they defensively can't get

1128
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 2: it figured out from a personnel standpoint, because offensively, Cook

1129
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 2: is I'd say this year Gibbs is the best running back.

1130
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: Cook's top two or three running back.

1131
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

1132
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: And if you got Josh Allen, if King Kaiden Knocks

1133
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: are on the field, like you can mix and match

1134
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 2: with Shakir and you know Keon Coleman every once in

1135
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 2: a while, and gave Davis if you got the two type.

1136
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 2: The offense is fine because Josh will make enough plays,

1137
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: but defensively, you just you're not gonna win in the

1138
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: playoffs with Maybe if you get a match up and

1139
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 2: Josh just go superhuman against bo Nix has a bad game,

1140
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: you can pull it off, but if you're playing a

1141
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: real quarterback, you just can't get stops, and that that's

1142
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: kind of been their problem, you know, over the years.

1143
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: But I feel like this defense personnel that we're watching

1144
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 2: on the field is worse than it's been over the

1145
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: last three or four years, isn't it.

1146
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: Yep. Let's bounce around to four different games. Let's talk

1147
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: Titans thirty one Cleveland Browns. I think it's twenty nine,

1148
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: shitter twenty three or forty two, three touchdowns, ninety eight

1149
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: passer rating. Cleveland special teams actually lost in the game.

1150
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: Like most bad teams or special teams are awful, Cleveland

1151
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: was missing six to seven starters and still had over

1152
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: four hundred yards in bad weather six and a half

1153
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: yards per play. I think shitter is very uneven. You know,

1154
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: he'll throw a bad pick every week. So I watched

1155
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: him and cam Ward. Cam's the much better athlete. But

1156
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: I will tell you watching shaduor I said it last week,

1157
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: I'll say it again. It reminds me of the Colorado Shadour.

1158
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: He throws a bad pick. He's not super athletic. He

1159
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: likes to throw the ball down the field. He's not overwhelmed. Again,

1160
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he has a special traite, but to

1161
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: get four hundred yards that's a bad receiving corps. I mean,

1162
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: it really is a bad receiving corps. Titans aren't any good.

1163
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: But I think my take is on Schadeur. He's good

1164
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,479
Speaker 1: enough to start in the league.

1165
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 2: Isn't he well for the Browns? I mean, to me,

1166
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: he's better in Dylan Gabriel. So I do think it

1167
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 2: puts into question, like you drafted Dylan Gabriel in the

1168
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: third round because Shador the touchdown he threw to Judy. Now,

1169
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: granted the Titans, he's wide open that drive throw, Like,

1170
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: I don't even think Dylan Gabriel can make it, and

1171
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: there is just some natural playmaker to him. I mean

1172
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: the touchdown he threw to the tight end in the corner.

1173
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: Yep.

1174
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: Like he's just that's a Colorado type play, yep. And

1175
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 2: he does just bring you some more explosive plays than

1176
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: anything you've had. I do think it puts into question

1177
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 2: of like, and they were not alone. No one was

1178
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: drafted in Chador, So I don't blame like fifth round.

1179
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 2: He was there for a reason because none of the

1180
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: other teams wanted him, But like, you took another quarterback

1181
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: who clearly isn't even close to his talented is this

1182
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: guy and your organization is like the Browns are a

1183
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 2: bad organization. Yeah, for a team that has some good players,

1184
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: they sure lose a lot of games. And then a

1185
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: story's coming out there bringing to Shaun Watson back. You know,

1186
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 2: it's like, what are we doing? I think that chadoor is.

1187
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 2: I mean, at this point in time, it's going to

1188
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: be so loud that he's going to have to start

1189
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 2: the rest of the season. He should, but it's like,

1190
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: clearly Stefanski was never on board with this decision. I

1191
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: don't have as much of a problem. He's gonna take

1192
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: a lot of crap for that two point play. It

1193
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 2: was open if he hands him the ball, but You

1194
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 2: could also argue, why are you getting so tricky on

1195
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 2: a two point play when your quarterback's kind of humming?

1196
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 2: This has a t bow like quality to it, though

1197
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: now he's a Chador is a much better passer room

1198
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 2: team much not even I mean Tebau was not an

1199
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Speaker 2: NFL passer. Chador clearly is. But there is a quality

1200
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Speaker 2: of just the people talking about the situation that because

1201
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I'm looking at the games like, well, I

1202
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 2: kind of do have to pay attention to Titans Browns.

1203
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 2: If it was Dalan Gabriel, I wouldn't have watched, That's right,

1204
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 2: you know. And he does bring that and he makes

1205
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: enough plays like this offense wasn't remember how bad they

1206
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 2: were with Dylan Gabriel. They couldn't function.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't turn it over, but couldn't function. I

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Speaker 1: you know. My takeaway on him is if you look

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Speaker 1: mostly like you look in college, then I think it's

1210
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Speaker 1: app today. Denver. It's the most lobsided twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seventeen game I've ever watched. At one point, bo Nicks

1231
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: was twenty five of thirty. It was like pitching cash.

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Speaker 1: They had a fourteen play drive and eighteen play drive.

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Speaker 1: Denver just wanted the game over and nobody hurt and

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Speaker 1: to get on the plane. They had these long like

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Speaker 1: the third quarter, Bonnicks the Denver had like two hundred

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01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: and sixty yards and the Raiders had seventy five. So

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Speaker 1: it wasn't really that close. I gotta tell you, there's

1239
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: a lot of talk. Brady has gotten much better as

1240
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: a broadcaster, much more comfortable. He can't be comfortable with

1241
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Raiders because again, this game

1242
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: wasn't close. Denver's getting better. The Chargers will eventually get

1243
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Speaker 1: their tackles back. They may beat Philadelphia tomorrow Kansas City's

1244
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Speaker 1: Kansas City. You think the Raiders will blow it.

1245
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Speaker 2: Up, Well, they're the worst team in the league right now.

1246
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 2: I mean, at least the Titans showed to the life today.

1247
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 2: I mean, they're no one's playing worse than the Raiders.

1248
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 2: That the moment Mims took that back, I'm like, I

1249
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 2: don't really need to pay attention to this game anymore.

1250
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: They got no shot. I think the problem with Pete

1251
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 2: Carroll is they hired this guy who had been making

1252
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 2: fifteen million dollars and setting the tone and deciding everything

1253
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: for twenty years, to then tell him what to do. Now,

1254
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Speaker 2: you could argue, why do you even hire a seventy

1255
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 2: five year old in the first place, But if you

1256
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: are going to hire him, Brady clearly forced Chip Kelly

1257
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: on him, and then Pete forced him to run Shane

1258
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Speaker 2: wa Aldron's offense to Chip Kelly. It's like, this is

1259
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: the type stuff the Browns do. You know, part of

1260
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 2: getting Brady was to kind of stabilize everything. But listen,

1261
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 2: Tom is the greatest player of all time and he's

1262
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 2: a very successful guy, but he's never ran a franchise.

1263
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Speaker 2: Bill did that. You know, Bill made a lot of

1264
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 2: moves that Tom didn't like. It kind of worked a

1265
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 2: lot of the times for a lot many of those

1266
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 2: years getting rid of You think Tom would have got

1267
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 2: rid of Welker. Of course not. You know. So it's

1268
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Speaker 2: like being and hiring the coaches. It's a little more complicated.

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Speaker 2: I think there are a lot of gms throughout the

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Speaker 2: league they're like, yeah, Tom is a little harder than

1271
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Speaker 2: you think. Huh, this isn't as easy because guess what

1272
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: Pete and Chip they got. They have egos like their players.

1273
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 2: These guys are used to making a lot of money,

1274
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: put mixing and matching coaching staffs I'd argue is a

1275
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 2: lot like building a locker room. You got to be

1276
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 2: very careful about the way you do that. Personalities, Mesh

1277
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 2: and the chip Kelly thing never made any sense if

1278
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll didn't want them, which clearly was the case.

1279
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 2: Pete had no leverage and he was desperate for a job.

1280
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 2: You could argue was desperate to fail the moment they

1281
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 2: hired Pete Carroll if they weren't going to give him

1282
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: the power to hire who he wanted as his coaches.

1283
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: Well, and John Schneider, the GM of the Seahawks and Pete,

1284
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: but it heads on Pete's son, so he you know,

1285
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: Pete wanted him on the scouting staff Snyder. Snyder basically said,

1286
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: he's I'm taking him off the scouting staff. Let's John

1287
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: wanted him gone, Pete put him on the coaching staff. Well,

1288
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: there's some stories that Chip Kelly and Pete's son did

1289
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: not see eye to eye in terms of running the

1290
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: ball or game planning, you know whatever. I think one

1291
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: of the things I've said this about Bill Belichick and

1292
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: that North Carolina Mike Lombardi staff, it's a friends and

1293
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: family staff. I remember years ago AJ Smith wouldn't let

1294
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer put his son on the staff. I just

1295
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: think Pete's at a different He made a lot of money,

1296
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: you know, he wants his son and the staff. Chip.

1297
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to Chip, but I think that I

1298
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: know in Seattle that did not. There was real fissures

1299
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: between John Snyder and Pete that I've had two sources

1300
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: tell me. So it's a mess.

1301
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 2: I also think the Raiders last year had the opportunity.

1302
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: I think they thought for some reason they were kind

1303
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 2: of close. Yeah, like they should have just hired some

1304
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 2: they should have been all in on, like trying to

1305
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: get Liam Kohen or whatever. Because remember Brady really wanted

1306
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson. But Ben's no dummy. He's like, listen to,

1307
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 2: your team's not even close to was good enough. I'm

1308
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 2: not taking my shot to come here. But why not

1309
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 2: hire another young offensive guy. Because once you hire Pete,

1310
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: Pete's trying to win every single game like it's the

1311
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 2: last game he's ever going to coach. That's not really

1312
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 2: the position the Raiders were in. And listen, they made

1313
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: a mistake. And I'm a big John spytech guy, but

1314
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 2: they should have traded Max Crosby this offseason because their

1315
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 2: team wasn't gonna be any good. But Pete Carroll would

1316
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 2: have put his body in front of that trade, right,

1317
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 2: So you just not everyone's on the same page. And

1318
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: I do think the other stories it is very difficult

1319
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 2: when you're in Brady's position, who clearly has a lot

1320
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 2: of juice. I think there was Diana Rassini's article. He's

1321
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 2: been there like twice all season. So you're making these decisions.

1322
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: You're not in the building, John Schneider, Howie Roseman. They're

1323
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 2: spending twelve hours a day, every day, for three hundred

1324
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 2: and twenty days a year inside the building with the players,

1325
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,439
Speaker 2: with the coaches, with the owner. It's really hard in

1326
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 2: this type. You can do that in some companies, right,

1327
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 2: Football is not one of those where you can just live,

1328
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 2: you know, on the other side of the country and

1329
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 2: just phone.

1330
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: In, Yeah, I mean you. I was watching a clip

1331
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: this week somebody was talking about Jerry West and everybody said, oh,

1332
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: Jerry was a genius, and this person said, no, every

1333
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: time you went anywhere, Jerry West was in the gym,

1334
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: and Brad Stevens to the Celtics, go anywhere any college

1335
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: basketball game, he's in the gym. You got to put

1336
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: the time in. I mean, that's just the reality. Howie Roseman,

1337
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: he's on a plane one hundred and fifty days a year.

1338
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the reality of these guys. John Snyder,

1339
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: I know, John, We've seen Indiana play, you know. Yeah.

1340
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: John Snyder's not a TV guy. He's a get to

1341
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: a game guy. Reportedly like he wants to be at

1342
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: a game. So, speaking of Seattle, they tagged Atlanta thirty

1343
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: seven to nineteen. This is the sixth time Seattle has

1344
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: beaten the team may not be the last this regular

1345
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: season by fourteen points or more. If you look at

1346
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: the history of Super Bowl winners, that's the number super

1347
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: Bowl teams get to six ugly blowout wins they dominate.

1348
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: A Rashid Saheed had his best game as a Seahawk,

1349
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: who they got from the Saints. This is interesting. In

1350
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: the last two years, Sam Donald's had two different head coaches,

1351
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: two different coordinators, two different O lines. Now he's got

1352
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: the second youngest offense. Do you know Sam Donald the

1353
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: last two years has the most wins of any quarterback,

1354
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: the third most touchdown passes, and the second most passing yards.

1355
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: It is official, and he had a winning record in Carolina.

1356
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: It is official. Eliminate the Jets from Sam Darnold's career.

1357
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 1: I watched them again today, JSN two more touchdowns. I'm sorry,

1358
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: but Donald's a franchise guy. He is, He's big, he's strong,

1359
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: he loves the deep ball. He's got. This Seattle offense

1360
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: is a bunch of kids. And I'm not saying this

1361
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: because I've always liked him. Urray's USC We just have

1362
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: to be honest. If you go two different teams, two

1363
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 1: different staffs, two different coordinators, two different we didn't know

1364
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: if JSM was a number one receiver. He's arguably the

1365
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 1: best receiver in the league. Donald's legit. He'll have bad games,

1366
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: but he's he's legit.

1367
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think he's going to be defined

1368
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 2: by how he plays against the Rams here coming up

1369
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks in the playoffs, right, because

1370
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 2: there's no disputing his regular season prowess. And I think

1371
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 2: this division. I just pulled up all three schedules. You know,

1372
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 2: the Rams are technically in first place because they won

1373
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 2: the game head to head. You know, the Rams now

1374
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 2: are going to be playing the Lions, who are coming

1375
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: off a long week because they played on Thursday's a

1376
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,799
Speaker 2: massive game. The Lion's still fighting for their playoff lives.

1377
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 2: The I'm looking at Seattle. They're playing the Colts this week,

1378
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 2: whose quarterback just tore his achilles and they got Riley

1379
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 2: Leonard and Anthy Richardson. They got problems. They are cults

1380
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: are headed the wrong way for that cooked Niners coming

1381
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 2: off a bye, they get the Titans. So this division,

1382
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 2: you know, the Niners, it doesn't feel like should be

1383
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 2: right there with these teams. But they've already beat the Rams,

1384
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 2: They've already beat Seattle. They play Seattle at the end

1385
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 2: of the season in San Francisco. Now the Niners in

1386
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 2: a couple weeks have the Bears. That's a massive game.

1387
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 2: But that same week the Rams in Seattle play. I'm

1388
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 2: pretty sure that's a Thursday night game. So you know,

1389
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 2: you get Seattle. Will assume they beat the Colts. You

1390
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 2: I'll give the Rams a benefit doubt. Let's say they

1391
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 2: beat the Lions. That's that game could determine the division

1392
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 2: right there in Seattle. I think to me, that game

1393
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 2: all the pressure would be on on Sam because clearly

1394
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 2: that first game, you know, throw all those picks. You know,

1395
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 2: I think people kind of just combine that with a

1396
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 2: couple of games the end of last year. But you

1397
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 2: just watch them in these rand games. I just think

1398
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 2: their team. You know, if I had to say who

1399
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 2: has the best, you I think the Niners offense pretty

1400
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 2: good and the Rams offense is really good. Right Seattle's

1401
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 2: defense to me, the Rams dbs, you just it's hard

1402
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 2: to trust, you know, when you get in certain moments.

1403
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 2: Seattle's defense top to bottom. They might have the best

1404
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 2: defensive backfield right there with Denver in the league.

1405
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: Well, you ever, you watch these teams every couple of years,

1406
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,879
Speaker 1: you'll get a team and they just look more athletic

1407
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: than other teams. Seattle, if you turn the sound down

1408
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: and just watch Seattle, they're fast, like their ends rush,

1409
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 1: they're tight, ends run well, their backs run well. Seattle

1410
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 1: is super athletic. And Darnald is a playmaker, so he's athletic.

1411
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: How would you because to me, I just think the Niners.

1412
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 2: You miss Fred Warner, it's you know, it's gonna be hard.

1413
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 2: Caleb scrambling around, you know, the playoff game. I just

1414
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 2: think that's gonna come up in a big moment. Defensively,

1415
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 2: I would I might still have Seattle one. The only

1416
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 2: reason he kind of hesitates, like I do trust Stafford

1417
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 2: a little bit more, you know, but it's like Eli

1418
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: couldn't do it till he did it. You know, some

1419
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 2: of these guys, like I do think Dak Prescott is

1420
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 2: good enough to win a super Bowl, but you'd be like, well,

1421
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:11,959
Speaker 2: he's been awful in the playoffs.

1422
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: True.

1423
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 2: You know, some guys like James are clearly melts down,

1424
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 2: like he has a long history, like maybe that is deck.

1425
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 2: Maybe he'll just always melt down in these playoff games.

1426
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 2: But I also see him in big normal games look good. Yeah,

1427
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 2: I see Sam Darnold. You know, I think in two

1428
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 2: weeks that Rams game, I don't want to say career definer,

1429
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 2: and he's twenty eight years old, but it's there's gonna

1430
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: be a big spotlight. That's what a great Thursday night game.

1431
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 2: That's that's in Seattle too. That's gonna could be raining,

1432
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 2: that could get ugly. It actually could benefit Seattle. Just

1433
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 2: run the ball, slow it down a little bit.

1434
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: Play d Rams forty five Arizona seventeen. Rams had over

1435
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: five hundred yards offense and almost nine yards of play

1436
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 1: not competitive. Kuka Nakua was absolutely fantastic, so was Stafford

1437
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: the editor. Thing about the Rams is they're healthy, They're

1438
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: just dissecting teams. Arizona is a lost franchise. I mean,

1439
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 1: you live in the state. I'm not sure bid well

1440
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 1: on down, it doesn't matter. It's a Do you have

1441
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: any takeaway on that at all?

1442
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 2: Uh No? I mean the Cardinals, God, they are see

1443
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 2: that some of these jobs, you like the Titans, like

1444
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 2: people are gonna people want to go be the head

1445
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,959
Speaker 2: coach of the Titans. Like the Cardinals, they fire everybody.

1446
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 2: I get it's the NFL, and it pays a lot

1447
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 2: of money. These jobs are terrible. I mean they are awful.

1448
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 2: And it just gets back to ownership and you look.

1449
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 2: You look at this division now, I mean, is there

1450
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 2: a better coach division with McVeigh McDonald and Kyle Shanahan.

1451
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 2: I mean it's like it's not even close. It feels

1452
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,839
Speaker 2: like it'd probably be Sean Payton, Andy Reid and Jim Harbaugh.

1453
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 2: And that's where if you're the Raiders, like, what do

1454
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: we do? How do we get up to those milling guys?

1455
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 2: I think the answer is you don't.

1456
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: I think about this all the time. I was surprised

1457
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 1: when Sean Payton took the job with Denver because I'm like,

1458
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're a mess. There's the Russell Wilson cap.

1459
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: What the hell is he gonna do? And you know,

1460
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 1: Sean knew there was good there was some good college

1461
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coming up, and Sean has a lot of confidence

1462
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: in himself. But and also you know, Andy Reid was

1463
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: getting older and Mahomes was getting expensive. And but that

1464
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 1: division now, I mean Mike McDonald and Sean McVay. Mike

1465
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: McDonald reminds me of the defense of Sean McVay. And

1466
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 1: then Shannon's probably the best scheme coach in the league.

1467
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: So like Arizona's just I mean, that feels like you

1468
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: can say what you want about Cleveland, but Pittsburgh's wobbly.

1469
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: What's up with Lamar? Cincinnati's cheap. You know, you can

1470
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: bang on Cleveland, but if Cleveland landed Mendoza or something

1471
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: at quarterback, you'd be like, I think when the division easily,

1472
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: Arizona's trapped.

1473
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 2: But Denver's a great example, right once Walmart took over

1474
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 2: that franchise, don't they have like four kids that are

1475
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 2: in the top twenty of wealth in the world. I

1476
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 2: mean the money that they're dealing with is on a

1477
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 2: different level than what ninety five percent of NFL owners, Like,

1478
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 2: what does the Walmart family have in common with Bob

1479
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 2: Kraft in terms of money? I mean, it's the levels

1480
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 2: we're talking. They are on a very very short list

1481
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 2: as a family. I'm not even talking as an individual.

1482
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 2: So I mean, the bidwells are so cheap they're Listen,

1483
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 2: Jonathan Annon. I don't know if he's good or bad,

1484
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 2: and it's hard to even tell, but you hit your

1485
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 2: wagon to Kyler Murray and this gets back to you know,

1486
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: he was the number one pick, but it was still

1487
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 2: a little bit of a risk for Ben Johnson to

1488
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 2: take that job. But it's pretty clear Ben Johnson probably

1489
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 2: be good no matter if Ben Johnson been the Raiders coach.

1490
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 2: Might not be a playoff team. But I guarantee you

1491
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 2: they're not two and whatever they are, right, he's the

1492
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: real deal. But vrabelnew like, I'm going back, you better

1493
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 2: have a quarterback because in this you could put Mike

1494
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 2: Rabel with Theirs on a Cardinals. He's probably not making

1495
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 2: the playoffs very often, so in this isn't college where

1496
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, I just lose my quarterback to the draft,

1497
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 2: We'll just go buy Fernando Mendoza. Right, That's not the

1498
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 2: way it works. And now you hit your wagon to

1499
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray and you're in the situation you're in where

1500
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 2: you got Jacobe set running around there down thirty points.

1501
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 2: It's like, what are we even doing? And like the

1502
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 2: Rams game, there's no takeaway. I do think though they

1503
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 2: you know, last week they lose the Panthers, who sometimes

1504
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 2: you do that, you know, the West coast East coast flight.

1505
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 2: But the one thing the Panthers can do they can

1506
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 2: throw the ball pretty well. I mean they got a

1507
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 2: couple of wide receivers and they kind of expose their dB.

1508
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 2: So I do think this was a little bit of

1509
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 2: a rallying spot of like, hey man, we got a plus.

1510
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 2: You don't have any margin. If you're the Rams, Seattle

1511
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 2: or the Four Tricks, you probably got to win thirteen

1512
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 2: and four probably wins you the division. So you know,

1513
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: a miss field goal here, a screw up here, all

1514
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you're the sixth seed playing I don't know,

1515
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: Green Bay or Axie. It can get a lot more difficult,

1516
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 2: really quick.

1517
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 1: Let's wrap it up with this Minnesota thirty one, Washington nothing.

1518
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy played well. Washington probably has, they've lost eight straight,

1519
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: probably has the worst defense in the league. It may

1520
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:03,440
Speaker 1: not be particularly close. Almost every Washington defender on PFF

1521
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 1: is like near the bottom of their position in the sport.

1522
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 1: I thought I was JJ McCarthy's best game, sixteen to

1523
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: twenty three, three tds, no picks that were very, very

1524
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: good in the red zone. It was a smart game plan.

1525
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: Then one of the things that really jumps out to

1526
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: me now is Washington had three turnovers and they're just

1527
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 1: a horrible franchise. A year after they shock the world,

1528
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels got banged up again, and I'm sitting there

1529
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 1: watching him when he's cringing on the field, and I'm like, man,

1530
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: but if you go back to his rookie year. Remember

1531
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 1: he got banged up in his rookie year. And I'm

1532
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:45,719
Speaker 1: sitting there thinking, if you told me in one year

1533
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 1: he'd missed another eight nine games, I'd be like, I

1534
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked. There is value in like bo Nicks

1535
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 1: doesn't get hurt, Caleb doesn't get hurt. Drake May got

1536
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 1: beat up his first year. He blew tened it. It

1537
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 1: doesn't miss games like I The Jade and Daniel thing

1538
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 1: is fascinating because it was the best rookie season statistically

1539
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: in the history of the sport, and a year later physically,

1540
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 1: I have real issues.

1541
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it's the knock on him.

1542
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 2: Going back to LSU was the reckless nature in which

1543
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 2: he played. And you look at Caleb and you look

1544
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 2: at bo Nicks, well, they're kind of built physically a

1545
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 2: little bit different than him. I mean, Caleb's built like

1546
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 2: a tank. Drake May's big. You look at Jayden Daniels,

1547
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 2: you know, he looks pretty slender. I tried to look

1548
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 2: his way. I don't think he waded into the combine,

1549
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 2: but he's just not He's not exactly built like you know,

1550
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:42,879
Speaker 2: Lamar's thickened up as he's gotten older. It is really important.

1551
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 2: I also think Washington, you know, you get there, you

1552
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 2: have success out of nowhere, and they went all in

1553
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 2: on this season and it is backfired. I mean, if

1554
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 2: you're if you're a draft nerd, the two crazy things.

1555
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 2: Every time I look up and Atlanta's down thirty, I

1556
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,640
Speaker 2: go the Rams have their first round pick, and for

1557
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 2: the Texans traded Laramie Tunzel to Washington. They did it

1558
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 2: for a third last draft and a second in this

1559
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 2: upcoming draft. Well that pick for Washington could be like

1560
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 2: pick thirty five. So the Texans all of a sudden,

1561
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 2: can you know they haven't had picks because of the

1562
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 2: Will Anderson trade. All of a sudden, you get this

1563
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 2: great Washington pick. I mean, you look at the Rams

1564
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 2: and the Texans. That's that's a big time ammo for

1565
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 2: those two teams. And you know they're old, they're quarterbacks,

1566
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 2: banged up a lot, they have some explosive playmaker. Zach

1567
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 2: Hurtz shattered his leg today. You know their defense.

1568
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 1: Is just atrocious though.

1569
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's really bad. And this you know,

1570
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 2: one story I saw today is Sirianni's getting more involved

1571
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 2: with the offense. Well, it's like Dan Campbell, Okay, my

1572
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator is bad. I need to get more involved

1573
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 2: than what happens. They look more explosive, So I go listen.

1574
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 2: I give Dan credit. That's he's an offensive guy. Siriana,

1575
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 2: you're an offensive guy. Monday night, your offense should look better.

1576
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 2: Dan Quinn's a defensive guy. I just watched him for years.

1577
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 2: Helped turn Jerry's team into a twelve win team. Remember

1578
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 2: how good they were on defense with Micah Parsons and

1579
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 2: Dan Quinn. How. I get your personnel's bad, but you

1580
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 2: should be a little bit. You made j J. McCarthy,

1581
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 2: who statistically was the worst quarterback since JaMarcus Russell, actually

1582
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 2: looked pretty good today. I mean it's hard to argue, right,

1583
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 2: he looked. He looked better and like a lot of

1584
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 2: these other young quarterbacks throughout the league. So I think

1585
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 2: if you're Washington, you're going God. Maybe that last year

1586
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 2: was It almost feels a little bit like the Giants

1587
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 2: that year when they made the playoffs and they beat Minnesota,

1588
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 2: and then the next three years were just a train wreck.

1589
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 2: Could be different because of Jaden Daniels. But if you

1590
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 2: can't stay on the field, who cares? Yeah?

1591
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 1: No, I mean if you start looking at the teams

1592
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: that consistently make the playoffs, like we thought, Houston, Oh

1593
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 1: what happened to Houston? Well, Houston's a good football team now,

1594
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 1: like to meet go Ryan's defense and the guys upstairs drafting,

1595
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, we always kind of look at Houston like,

1596
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, like Jacksonville. We'll say what you want,

1597
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 1: but I watched Jacksonville today. Like, Jacksonville's got a lot

1598
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: of good players. They've hit on a lot of those

1599
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 1: draft picks. Travis Hunter is not even a fact there.

1600
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 1: They got two backs, they got two ends. So there

1601
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: are these outlier seasons, John, where a team just gets

1602
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: hot the division's week, you know, and I you know

1603
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 1: that gets hurt. The Cowboys are bad, the Giants are worse.

1604
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 1: They didn't have Jackson Dard. It's I don't know. I

1605
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,679
Speaker 1: look at Washington and I'm like, they need nine more players.

1606
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 1: They need so many more players there, and this, Hey,

1607
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,679
Speaker 1: good for JJ. He needed a game like this again.

1608
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 1: They ran, they passed, They just you can just watch football.

1609
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 1: You watch Seattle's defense, You're like, damn, they're fast. You

1610
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: like Washington. They can't bully, they can't run, they can't cover,

1611
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:43,919
Speaker 1: They're awful. It's just a they got very few good players.

1612
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's do our Monday night football Hard Rock

1613
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:52,679
Speaker 1: bet pick it's the Eagles. They'll probably have home field

1614
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: advantage at sofar sixty forty minus two against the Chargers

1615
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: team that is winning despite having the lowest rated offensive

1616
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 1: line there are teams you can get away with that.

1617
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 1: I think if you have the Chargers online, Denver and

1618
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: Philadelphia are teams that you could really struggle. I just

1619
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 1: see the Chargers struggling to sustain drives two really special defenses.

1620
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Philadelphia to win twenty four to twenty.

1621
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: It's a really big game for both, but I'll take

1622
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: the healthier roster.

1623
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 2: A lot of institutional knowledge. You know, Harba's two coordinators

1624
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 2: in San Francisco, Fangio, Greg Roman Jalen Carter. Though earlier

1625
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 2: this week those shoulder surgeries, you know he's out. If

1626
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 2: you told me he was in this game, I'd be

1627
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 2: like audios for Justin Herbert. Obviously Justin Herbert coming off

1628
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 2: the injury. I'm taking Harbaugh though, as a home dog.

1629
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,839
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a classic spot where Jim Harbaugh

1630
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 2: has just won his whole career when you kind of

1631
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 2: count him out. I think Hampton the running back supposed

1632
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 2: to be back. If if Herbert can be like Aaron

1633
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 2: Rodgers there with a cast and sling that thing around,

1634
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 2: I think this Eagles thing gets gets uglier before it

1635
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 2: gets better.

1636
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: Great nice job, John

1637
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 2: The volume