1 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Media Match, 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, dropping wisdom and offering sizzling 4 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now 5 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: your host, Steve Dennis. It's a bonus Wednesday. That's what 6 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: coach McCarthy called it on Monday, a bonus Wednesday. The 7 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: bad news is, though, tomorrow's workload Thursday. So let's enjoy 8 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: the bonus Monday. Do you feel everybody out there like 9 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: it's a bonus Wednesday with the Monday night game. My 10 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: name is Steve Dennis. Welcome to mediamash. We're here every 11 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Thursday from four to five. And after the 12 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: first couple of weeks, I don't think we no longer 13 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: need the self in productions. We can just say Mashouda 14 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: from the Athletic is here. Rob Phillips from Dallas Cowboys 15 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: dot Com and all other Cowboys media's here. And Slater, 16 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: who I'm mistakingly called a star last Thursday. I called 17 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: her a media star mistakingly because she's late. She just 18 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: thinks she can just come and go as she pleases. 19 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: She stars do that. Yeah, well yeah, you know, well 20 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: Prima Donna's do it fashionably. But she'll be here. I've 21 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: never I've never told her this, and Clarence hated it, 22 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: by the way, when I called her a star, a 23 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: media star. I don't believe in media stars. I think 24 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: that ESPN tries to create media stars and that's really 25 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: not what we do, is it. Or No, no, no, 26 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: you're right. But I just found a funny you said, 27 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: because that absolutely seems like something that would draw Clarence 28 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: off sides like a star. What do you mean it? 29 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: But first of all, it's it's a bonus Monday, all right, 30 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: So you never get a second Oh, it's never second 31 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: of all. Sorry, Jane is a star. She is immediate. 32 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: All right. Let's start with this. They avoided oh and two, 33 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: which doesn't change my opinion. I can only speak for me. 34 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: If they would have lost that game, and it's much 35 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: better they didn't, I would feel the same way. It 36 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: was a very impressive game I thought by the Dallas Cowboys. 37 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: Really nice that they got the win, even though the 38 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: last ten seconds probably drove you Cowboys fans nuts. See 39 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: I love McCarthy on Monday. Explain that. By the way, 40 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: somebody asked him. It was an archer that asked him, 41 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: what is the edge of being in field goal range? 42 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: He goes, what do you mean? They just have a number. 43 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: The number was forty, so that means we're in range. 44 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: Fans don't think that way, Get eight more yards for 45 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: crying cowboys. Fans were on their knees, run another play, 46 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: get us closer. But they're just nice and relaxed about it. 47 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: It was a matter of fact we were in field 48 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: goal range. Isn't that odd? Yeah you can say that 49 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: because the field goal went in and it's happy win, 50 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: you know, win Monday whatever, So yeah, everything can kind 51 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: of oh ha ha, you know, yeah, we were in 52 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: field goal range. Whatever. But like just take forget Greg's 53 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: zerline's rough start in week one. Uh, I don't know 54 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: that fifty six yards You're you're just setting up for 55 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: that with Adam Vanetarian is prime. I don't I mean 56 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: justin Tucker, I don't know if you're just like, oh 57 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, fifty six, fifty eight, sixty sixty four, 58 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: that's fine, that's close enough. Like, well, let's just kick 59 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: him out there, and and for you to say to 60 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: start this off by saying that you didn't care regardless 61 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: of the outcome. I find the hard to believe because 62 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: they missed that thing. Let's say he shanks it real bad, 63 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: like it's not even close, they go to overtime and lose, 64 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: there's no way you're going no what what? They played good, 65 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: just like you know, oh and two whatever, This place 66 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: atomic absolutely because winning is everything. We all know that, 67 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: especially especially when it would have been avoidable. Yeah, that's 68 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: my whole point is it wouldn't have changed my opinion. 69 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: I expected them to start oh and two, okay, and 70 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: I still think they can be a good football team 71 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: regardless of that. Now one and one is tons better 72 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: because because now it may be four and one or 73 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: five and one and oh when two now you know 74 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: you're right, you're panicking. Everybody's panicking that you guys are 75 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: tougher on them this week when you're talking to them, 76 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: So it changes everything. Um, but they did avoid it. 77 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: I thought it was a very impressive game by the Cowboys. 78 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: I think that the Chargers ruined a pretty good game 79 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: by their quarterback with all the what did what did 80 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: coach say? The active officiating exact? That sounds right, Yeah, 81 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: something like that, which I gotta kick at it, but 82 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: I want to. I'm gonna start by asking this because 83 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: we do have things we need to mash up today 84 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: involving players and their performances and what does it mean 85 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: going and forward and all that. So who are you 86 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: most impressed with and from this game? I want you 87 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: to think about a guy because there are legitimate candidates. 88 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's how good a game this was. I 89 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: believe for the Cowboys, you could go Micah, you could 90 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: go Tony Pollard, Terrence Steele, Zach Martin, Dan Quinn, Greg's Urline, 91 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs, Jyron Curse. I mean, there's legitimate candidates on 92 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: who you are most impressed by? Rob you go first? 93 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: Besides the obvious, I'll give you Micah Johnny, if you 94 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: want Mica, I'll go with Giron Curse because they signed 95 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: him in the offseason as primarily a special teams guy 96 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: who has started I think twelve games in his career 97 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: for a couple of different teams, and now all of 98 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: a sudden, he's playing every single snap on defense and 99 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: he's playing all over the field. They got him playing deep, 100 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: they got him playing in the box, covering tight ends 101 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: should have picked off a pass got robbed on that. 102 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: He's changing kind of the dynamic of what they're doing 103 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: back there. Through two games, they didn't have Donaldan Wilson, 104 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: so that's one reason why he didn't why he played 105 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: as much as he did in that game. But dan 106 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: Quinn talked about it. We can do a lot of 107 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: different things with kind of this three safety package. It's 108 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: an interesting wrinkle and it's something that I don't think 109 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: anybody expected in training camp. It's two games, but it 110 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: was impressive and in reaction to that, it's very rare 111 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: and McLay is probably going to storm down the stairs 112 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: and come after me here. But you're talking about three 113 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 1: cheap free agents that with Hooker, Curse and Kyz and 114 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: Man all three of them made an impact in this game, 115 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: and Hooker's going to get better all of a sudden. 116 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: They're gonna have trouble figuring out which two should be 117 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: on the field, aren't they and sometimes three? Yeah, another 118 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: part of that. Obviously Will deserves the credit for bringing 119 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: them in, but the coach and the coaching staff have 120 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: to put those players in the position to be successful, 121 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: and I don't know how much that has happened in 122 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: previous years. And I know it's only been two games, 123 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: but I really get that feeling out of dan Quinn, 124 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of adjusting from week to week. 125 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: So because of that, and I'm sorry, but I do 126 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: have to go with Michael Parsons and somebody does. And 127 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: I do think it's important to note too that the 128 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: majority of his damage was against Storm Norton, who was 129 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: their right tackle. Yeah. Yeah, when he was going against 130 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: for Shaan Slater, he wasn't having that success. But it's 131 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: also you need to remember that. And Micah just said this, 132 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: I think he said even today, was that, you know 133 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: he went in there with finding out on Wednesday, hey 134 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be an edge rusher. So it was really 135 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: like told to him, speed rush, use your use your quickness, 136 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: get up, get up the hill or downhill and go 137 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: after him. There wasn't a lot of like, yeah, he 138 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: did hand movements and different things like that, but just 139 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: keep in mind, like DeMarcus Ware wasn't a finished product 140 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: in like year ten, Like when you're an elite edge rusher, 141 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: you're constantly adding to your craft, and that Micah Parsons 142 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: isn't even doing a lot of that stuff. Yet now 143 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: he's doing some of it, including with DeMarcus ware that 144 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: they did a little bit before the season started. They 145 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: supposed to do some more, he said today, but they're 146 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: just so much more that he can add to his game. 147 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: And so to just go in there is such a raw. 148 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I haven't rushed the pastor consistently for an 149 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: entire game since high school and have that success that 150 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: he did, and again doing it in a way that 151 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: dan Quinn came up with this game plan and you 152 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: had success with it. It wasn't like, oh, well, we're 153 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: just gonna do what we did the week before, the 154 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: week before, the week before. It was something completely new 155 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: and you had success. I mean, that's really encouraging to 156 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: see that. All right, let's not react to that yet 157 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: because that's going to be the rest of the segment. 158 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: What are they going to do with Mica? What should 159 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: they do with Mica? Because to me, and you're right 160 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: about everything you said, this changes everything with what they 161 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: can now do with DeMarcus Lawrence out. Gregory's coming back, 162 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: but d law is going to be out for a while, 163 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: so we'll discuss that in a minute. And by the way, 164 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: I never did incriminate. I didn't get the negative comment. 165 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: I had three for three on cheap free agents is 166 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: rare for the coup usually usually hit on one or 167 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: But I mean, my gosh, what a successful group. You're 168 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: not not wrong. I mean, look, and they'll tell you this. 169 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: They made a lot of free agent decisions last year, 170 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: particularly on the defensive side of the ball. Almost nothing 171 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: worked out. I mean, I mean there were what three 172 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: guys that they signed that by mid season were off 173 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: the roster, traded Everson Griffin, they cut two other players. 174 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: So far, so good. I got coaching has something to 175 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: do with that, though, as Michelle, for sure, sure, I 176 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: love listening to Dan Quinn on Mondays. By the way 177 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: to just real quick piggyback off what Johnny said, like, 178 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: I agree with you about Dan, and I noticed it 179 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: from the first time we got to talk to him 180 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: was the night of the draft. Finally we got to 181 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: talk to him, and he was asked about certain guys 182 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: that he has not even worked with yet Osa Diggi, Zoua, 183 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: and he had clear plans like Nickel Rush that kind 184 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: of stuff. I'd ever got that sense, and it was 185 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: on conference calls and stuff. But from Mike Nolan. Last year, 186 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: it just there just seems to be this clarity on 187 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: knowing exactly what I want for my scheme. And I 188 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: didn't get that sense as much last year. But even 189 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: before that, even the previous regime, Before that, I felt 190 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: like there was a lot of this is what we 191 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: do right, the pieces have to fit what this does, yes, 192 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: And now I feel it's more of give me the 193 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: best pieces. We'll find a way to kind of work 194 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: these pieces together. And I just like that from week 195 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: to week that even covering the team, I honestly don't 196 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: feel like I know exactly what the game plan is 197 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: going to be. And again, it's only been two weeks 198 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: and this stuff can change, but there's just a little 199 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: bit of that I'm already seeing where it's like, no, 200 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna move a guy here, I'm gonna move this, 201 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna do this different. And those are the type 202 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: of little things that like keep a team off balance 203 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: when you're playing them from week to week. And to 204 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: be honest with you, that's one of the biggest things 205 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: that everybody will talk about about Bill Belichick and White. 206 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: He's had so much successes because from week to week, 207 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: nobody changes a defensive game plan like Bill Belichick has 208 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: for the last twenty years, and that's obviously having Brady 209 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: helps a lot, but that's been a key piece of 210 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: their success as well. So when you start to see 211 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: that on Sundays and again only two weeks, but it's 212 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: interesting and it's intriguing. People used to ask me why 213 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: did I love Bill Parcel's news conferences so much? Because 214 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: the man knew what he was talking about. And if 215 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: you sit there, you learn every sentence that comes out 216 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: of his mouth. And dan Quinn has some of that. 217 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: Yeah you sit there. I don't sit there. I'm watching 218 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: it online. But you learn, and he does it so easily. 219 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: He's telling you little things about what he's going through 220 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: with his defense and you're going, wow, okay, you're learning 221 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: and quite a switch. And you're right about Marinelli. Marinelli 222 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: was a great motivator and all of his players overachieved, 223 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean the scheme is always great and 224 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: he didn't have that part of it where he needed it. 225 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: All right, you guys are both wrong, by the way, 226 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: because the most impressive performance of all was Terrence Steele. 227 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about it last week. What he 228 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: did to Joey Bosa, who is arguably a top five 229 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: pass top five right for both Bosas are in the 230 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: top five. Yeah, I thought Terrence again, it changes everything 231 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: because Lyle Collins is going to be out for a minute, 232 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: and if he can stand up to Bosa on the 233 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: road like he did, wonderful performance has to be him. 234 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: But then you can go right next to him. What 235 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: about Zach Martin, I mean, do we just take him 236 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: for granted? Oh yeah, that's what happens with Zach. I 237 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: feel like he's gonna have this Hall of fame, you know, 238 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: a ring of honor career, and you're gonna just look 239 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: back and and be like, yeah, I kind of took 240 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: that thing for granted. I mean at a much lower level, 241 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: not comparing the two, but a much lower level. I'm 242 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: sure Cowboys fans listening to this, we'll think the same 243 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: thing about Dan Bailey and the Kicker situation. For several 244 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: years there it was just kind of like, oh, yeah, 245 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: we can feel orange will be good. We got Dan 246 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: Bailey and then it was true and which it was, 247 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: but you kind of take it for granted. But Zach 248 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: is over a much larger sample size where it just like, yeah, 249 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: you just said, well, of course Zach was good. Oh 250 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: oh well on one play he was holding off one 251 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: guy with a right arm and another guy with a laugh. Yeah, 252 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: of course, Zach Martin, that's what just what he does 253 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: overlooked from the day he got draft. Yeah, I mean, 254 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: because he's so quiet and he wasn't he wasn't Johnny Football. Yeah, 255 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: that was where it started. And he did help on 256 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: Terrence Steele. There were some combo blocks in there, and 257 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: there was an entire drive that I swear the huddle 258 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: had to be just run behind Zach and and to 259 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: that point, props the Terrence Steel because everything I've heard 260 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: behind the scenes is that he just it just does 261 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: what Zach does. I mean, we worked on in the 262 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: weight room, the way he prepares offseason stuff like that. 263 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: He was basically I'm gonna do whatever Zach does. And 264 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: it sounds like a pretty decent person to follow the old, 265 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: the old Witten method where you come in here and 266 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: learn from Witten if you're smart. Yeah, I like that. 267 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: All right. Um, we learned today apparently that Mica Parsons 268 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: is a wild bull with a photographic memory. True, Is 269 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: that what you guys learned today. I learned that, but 270 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say I learned, because he's always he's got 271 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: that personality. We could tell from the day he was drafted, 272 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: actually even before that, and that one the show they 273 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: did Hay Rookie leading up to the draft. Yeah, and 274 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: I mean he owned that show. I mean, he's a 275 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: big personality. So when you know that you're going to 276 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: talk to him for about ten fifteen minutes, the idea 277 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: that you're not going to get at least one good 278 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: quote out of him is pretty slim. So, uh, that's 279 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: the fact that, Uh, you know, the part I really 280 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: liked is when he said that there, He's right. He 281 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: wants to be out there in games where basically you know, 282 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: when he when he's not playing defensive end because obviously 283 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: they're rotating them out, you're gonna play every snap at 284 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: defensive end. He wants to them when they rotate him 285 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: out to like, no, instead of going to sideline, let 286 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: me play a linebacker on these which dan Quinn doesn't 287 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: want to do because I mean, you're going against beasts 288 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: up front. It's a lot different than playing linebackers, so 289 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: you have to, you know, manage their snap count things 290 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: like that. He wants for an entire game to just 291 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: be Okay, I'm gonna rush on the edge, and then 292 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: when I'm not doing that, put me back at linebacker. 293 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: And then and then when I'm not playing linebacker, put 294 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: me back on the edge. That's when it came into 295 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: that quote about you know, being a wild bull and 296 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: you don't. You don't because it was like, don't you 297 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: need to pace yourself? He's like, I don't need pace. 298 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: You know, you don't pace a wild bull. You let 299 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: a wild bull run. He also dropped the terminator reference 300 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: to the believe yeah he did. He drops a movie 301 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: reference every time. I feel like we talked to him, 302 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: which I love like movies. That's how I talk basically. 303 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: All right, here comes the question now. Clarence E. Hill Junior, 304 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: who will be on media match tomorrow, asked the question 305 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: already this week. The quote from the defensive coordinator was 306 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: he loves to run and hit people. That is his superpower. 307 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: And then the question was why wouldn't you play him 308 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: at defensive end period right now? With d Law out? 309 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: And I think that's a great question. Your depth is 310 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: a linebacker. Jalen and Layton both played better. Now you've 311 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: got Kean O'Neill going through something right now, but Jabriel 312 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: Cox is coming up right behind them. Why wouldn't you 313 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: just put him at left defensive end until d Law 314 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: comes back. Then I'm gonna answer this by giving a question, 315 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: you guys, what if And I'm not saying this is 316 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: the this is the case, but I'm going to just 317 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: throw it a hypothetical scenario here. What if you're dealing 318 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: with the difference between being a Hall of Fame linebacker 319 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: or let's say a five or six time prob edge 320 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: rusher where you're a really good adge rusher but you're 321 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: not quite at that, you know, the elite of the 322 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: elite level where you're going to Hall of Fame, or 323 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: you play linebacker and you're one of the best, your 324 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner, you're going to the Hall of Fame? Like, 325 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: which would you rather have it? And I think it's 326 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: interesting to put it that way because I can see 327 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: both sides of it. Why wouldn't you want to Hall 328 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: of Famer? But the other part of it is the 329 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: game that you play nowadays is rush and cover and 330 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: you're kind of like, man, I would kind of rather 331 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: have THEE because it just seems like it's harder to 332 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: find them. I'm gonna jump in an answer first, Rob 333 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: and then you go. He said, his superpower is running 334 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: and hitting people. The person you want to hit is 335 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback. That's why defensive ends make ton money and 336 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: linebackers don't. That is the premier position or one of 337 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback d end top two. Now you're saying that 338 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: he's not going to be a Hall of Fame rusher, 339 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying, oh, I know, I'm just coming to a hypothetical. 340 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: What would you pick out of those two? Because I'll 341 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: be honest the answer to the question. Dan Quinn thinks 342 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: that he can do both at a high level. So 343 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to just be like we're just gonna 344 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: put you at d end and that's gonna be it 345 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: he wants, he realized, And when he said the superpower, 346 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: I think he meant rushing and covering on the back end. 347 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: Like you don't want to take that away because he's 348 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: so elite at that. So why not have this piece, 349 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: Like we just got done talking about how he can 350 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: every week change his defensive scheme. Why not have this 351 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: piece be like every single week, whoever we play, they're 352 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: not going to know where this guy's lining up. You know, 353 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: last week we might rush him fifty times. This week, 354 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: we might only rush him five times, because we're gonna 355 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: use him in this variety of ways. And that's the 356 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: chess piece that every single week is going to make 357 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: the difference about our defense, because not only can he 358 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: do all this, but he's our best defensive player and 359 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: he's the one that the opponents have the game plan for. 360 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: I think there's a yes, I think there's a balance 361 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: between what he did in week one and what he 362 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: did last week. Week one, he rushed twelve times as 363 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: either as a blitzer or lining up at the left 364 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: or right edge. Like you said, last week, nothing but rushing, 365 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: and I was, you know, I was surprised to look 366 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: at the statue afterwards and be like, he only played 367 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: thirty nine snaps, and he was awesome in those thirty 368 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: nine snaps. Selfishly, I'd like to see him do more 369 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: of that because that was so much fun to watch. 370 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: And there are going to be tougher tackles that he 371 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: faces than a backup swing tackle. But to Johnny's point, 372 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: let him get some reps and I think he'll get 373 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: better at it. I think it's based off of matchups. 374 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: I think for this particular matchup, there might be more 375 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: value in having him off the ball spying Jalen Hurts 376 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: because he's a four three guy that can prevent their 377 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: quarterback from getting out of the pocket and creating havoc. 378 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: That way, I think it's based off matchups potentially, but 379 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: I think there's a balance where game to game you're 380 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: going to see him do a little bit of both, 381 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: because he's too good at everything. He's good. You know, 382 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: you can put him out on the sideline and cover 383 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: a running back, tight end, even a wide receiver. At times, 384 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: there's too much that you can do with him. To 385 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: me that you just limit him to one thing. Well, 386 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: it reminds me a bit of DeMarcus Ware, who, by 387 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: the way, made the Hall of Fame list today. What 388 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: was one hundred and twenty two of them? Is that 389 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: a lot? Is it usually that many? Yeah? Starting out, 390 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: I don't follow that closely, But with him, I just 391 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think that's like when I 392 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, of course he's gonna be on there, 393 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: of course. But my point is nobody cared if he 394 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: was a linebacker or a defensive end. If he was 395 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: playing the three four or the four to three, Nobody 396 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: cared DeMarcus had a skill. He could get to the 397 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: quarterback and he could also drop and cover. Maybe not 398 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: as well as Micah, but we've only seen Micah for 399 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: a short time here, right, I don't care if he's 400 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: a linebacker or defensive end. His skill needs to get 401 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: to the quarterback. That is the skill the league covets 402 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: the most. And we're looking at two games here. Cowboys 403 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: gets zero sacks against Brady, they get two in this game. 404 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: Micah changed the game, may have won the game. They 405 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: don't sack. Yeah, we talked about it on talking earlier. 406 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: I don't they don't win that game without eight pressures 407 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: and a sack that costs them points. I don't think 408 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: they win the game without his end missions how fast 409 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: he closed on that. Herbert thought he had time to 410 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: throw it away, and Micah was right in his face, 411 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: just whoop, He's just I couldn't believe it. I watched 412 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: it eight times in replay. He just hit a gear 413 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: and Herbert went, oh, Dan, you know, and then you 414 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: know whether it was a penalty or not or whatever. 415 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: So you never want to see him off the ball. 416 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: Ever again, well, I with d law out, Okay, it's 417 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: kind of what I'm saying, at least until then. Yeah, 418 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 1: when when you're when you're all pro defensive left end 419 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: comes back, then do what you need to do. But yeah, 420 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: you want that presence on the other side of Gregory 421 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: in this game and in every game going forward. Well, 422 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: even when Lawrence comes back, especially on third downs, I 423 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: want Lawrence moving inside and I want Michael Parsons rushing 424 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: on the outside of him, so that you're you're going 425 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: with your your your front is going to be Randy 426 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: Gregory on one end, Mike on the other end, to 427 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: Marcus on the inside, you know, causing havoc with Osa 428 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: or another another when Neville Gallmore gets back. I think 429 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: you really got a lot of opportunities there. I will 430 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: say from watching the all twenty two of these first 431 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: two games, it kind just dawned on me that was like, 432 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: I can just see defensive coordinators or offensive coordinators watching 433 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: this and in the last game mentioned in the plays 434 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: that you guys said that justin Herbert Sack being the 435 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: key one. But I can even see them watching that 436 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: Bucks game and watching that pass out in the flat 437 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: that just barely went over his head and got to 438 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette. And I see these these offensive coordinators watching 439 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: and go, yeah, Tom Brady completed that because he's Tom 440 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: Brady as our guy gonna be able to complete that, 441 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: because if it's just another maybe even a half a 442 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: foot off, Mike is intercepting that and possibly returning it, 443 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: and that recks that game too. Like they are game 444 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: planning for him whenever they're going to go against the 445 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys because he is the guy that can wreck the game. 446 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: He is the guy that they're going to have to 447 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: do whatever they have to do. It starts with, Okay, 448 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: what are we going to do if this eleven is 449 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: a linebacker? What are we gonna do when he rotates 450 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: over an edge? What's our plan going to be? Because 451 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna need to help out our right tackle if 452 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: that's the case. And it just it's interesting to talk 453 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: about because let's be honest, how many times have you 454 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: talked about that about the Cowboys defense over the better 455 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: part of the last decade. None? Probably not since the 456 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: market I mean where, Yeah, when you have a player 457 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: like that, and by the way, a defensive coordinator that 458 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: will be smart enough to figure out how to help 459 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: him wreck a game. Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. Yeah, 460 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: I mean that's very exciting. I mean it's just like 461 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: having Dak on the other side. I mean, when you've 462 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: got those kind of game changers that you're right that 463 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: the other team is in meeting rooms trying to fail. 464 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: Oh man, what are we gonna do about this problem? 465 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: And Quinn compared him to Michael Bennett, not because of 466 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: the way they play, but the fact that when he 467 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: got Michael Bennett in Seattle, he told Michael, hey, we 468 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: think you can really help as a three technique like 469 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: nickel defensive tackle, like on top of being an edge rusher, 470 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: And it caught Bennett a little off guard and he 471 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: was like, all right, And if you look at Michael 472 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: Bennett's career, three time Pro bowler, he did a lot 473 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: of stuff moving inside, moving outside, and there wasn't a 474 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: lot of guys that could do what he did, being 475 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: able to play those multipositions. And so Dan Quinn is 476 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: kind of comparing that with like Michael Parsons. So to 477 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: your point, I think it did defensive coordinator matters too, 478 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: because there are probably a lot of defensive coordinators to 479 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: be like, now let's just leave met linebacker. Now, let's 480 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: just leave about his adge rushes or you decide in 481 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: training camp and early in the season, he's not ready 482 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: for all that, you know, true, Like like, I just 483 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to overload it. But he played that 484 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: up Monday when he said that I wouldn't have made 485 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: him do this if if I didn't think he could 486 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: have handled it right. Dan has has pushed him from 487 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: the moment he got here, and and he's responded and 488 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: shown him don't yeah, put it, And Mica says that, like, 489 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: put it on me. I want to play every snap. 490 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: I want to play everywhere. That's that's kind of player. 491 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: Such a rare dude. He has fun with it. I 492 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: mean on hard knocks, he's what what do you mean, 493 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm not playing? You know what? He doesn't care about 494 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: how much is gonna be on. He wants it all 495 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: on him. You know. He reminds me of Number four 496 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: on the other side. Same way. Yeah, just put it. 497 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: I don't care put it all on me. When you 498 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: watch him go real quick, when you watch him go 499 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: against for Shaun Slater, though, I mean, I know it's 500 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: way too early to predict this, but man, this draft 501 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: has a chance of being like that twenty fourteen draft 502 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: where like, yeah, you didn't have a top ten pick 503 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: as the Cowboys, but Zack Martin was still there. And 504 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: if you didn't have Zack Martin, you're gonna get Ryan 505 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: Shazier and like they were hoping for Aaron down there, 506 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: all those guys that kind kind of kept felling there, 507 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham was there. You look at the way this 508 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: draft came and you know you have it enter Sir 509 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: Tan falling to like to nine. You have you have Mica, 510 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: you have Rashaan Slater, uh DeVante Smith, who they're obviously 511 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: gonna play against with the Eagles. Justin fields, like you know, 512 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: everybody always talks about like, oh, if you're not in it, 513 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,479 Speaker 1: you got a tank because you knew one of those 514 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: top five picks. And this could be one of those 515 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: drafts where they were kind of in the sweet spot 516 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: of like, well, whatever you kind of did there, whether 517 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: you got Sir Tan or Worn or or this guy 518 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: or Slater, you're probably going to be in a decent position. 519 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: It's the non quarterbacks who have stood out so far, 520 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: and give justin fields time, give Trevor Lawrence time. But yeah, 521 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: to your point, he starts this week. The fields Erra 522 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: begins in Chicago. Rob Phillips, John Machodo. We're still waiting 523 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: on Slater. She's getting her teeth aligned. That's what you 524 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: outed her. That's what beautiful people do they have to 525 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: worry about. Look at these teeth. Didn't even the guy 526 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: given to them. Look at this coming coming up next. 527 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: And I hope Slater makes it in the next few 528 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: minutes because I heard her on Twitter discuss I've seen 529 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: this and one of the video things that she does. 530 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: She was already talking about money, ramifications of boot and Zeke. 531 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean, people are going, okay, enough of zeke It. 532 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: Tony's the guy that's next here on media mash Honey, 533 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: Big News, Gary, Are you okay? Oh? I'm not Gary anymore. 534 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm Jackie Flash. What see? I want the latest smartphone, 535 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: but the best deals are only for new customers. 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Monday night game against the Eggles, 569 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: as they say in Philly, the Eggles U Cowboys were 570 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: three straight at home. Man, Yeah, I'm thinking four and 571 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: one now after I was thinking, oh one, I went 572 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: from two to four and one. But I would have 573 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: said they'd have been three and two anyway, or what 574 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: would that be? Yeah, that would be three and two 575 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: if they were owing two. But all right, this discussion 576 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: really intrigues me. And by the way, the text message 577 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: the newly aligned tooth tooth one here she comes, so 578 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: she hustled in here. All right, give us a big 579 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: I'll look at there there it is. He almost said 580 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: toothless just a minute. Yeah, I couldn't think of the 581 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: right word, toothful, teeth. She got more teeth in more teeth. 582 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: I outed you, by the way. I hope, I hope 583 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: that wasn't private information. But I think your audience deserves 584 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: the straightest possible teeth you can give him. Jane, So Steve, 585 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: it's not just about keeping up with storylines its appearances 586 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: as I get older. So thanks for understanding. Yeah, I 587 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: look ridiculous. Okay, even to take him out because you 588 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: gotta keep him in. And she says, yeah, what did 589 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: you say? Yeah, I probably thought the song was about me. Yeah, 590 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: she nineteen seventy one reference. You wouldn't have made that reference. 591 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have to be clear. It was in How 592 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: to Lose a Guy in Ten Days Kate Hudson Carly 593 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: Simon nineteen nice. All right, we're back. Slider's here with 594 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: the NFL network, of course, taking care of all those 595 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: cosmetic things that makes there such a hit on television, 596 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: I suppose, or some of it what makes her a hit? 597 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: I saw you on Twitter? You were it was you 598 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: and Bobby, so it must have been your podcast today? Um, 599 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: you were. You were already doing the configuration of what 600 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: if you booted Zeke it would cost him? And I thought, 601 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: and I said, wow, Wow. Now they're playing the Long Road, 602 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: which is close to an Eagles album, The Long Road 603 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: playing the duo was Zeke and Pollard. Man. Some people 604 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: were on this when Pollard was a rookie and they 605 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: were wrong. Yes, can we all agree on that? Yeah? 606 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: Those people were wrong, yes, But right now those people 607 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: are right. Okay, Pollard needs more touches. He's getting more touches. 608 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: He's getting on he played twenty one snap, got thirteen carries. Yeah, 609 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: it is almost fifty th sixteen touches, and out of 610 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: those twenty one, I was almost like, when Tony Pollard's 611 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: on the field, he's going to touch the football. Now 612 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: you're saying he did double up Zeke doubled him up 613 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: on I understand. When I was doing a show at Kalishaw, 614 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: every time Zeke's name came up, that's my running back, 615 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: That's what I would say to him, He's my running back. 616 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: But all I'm saying is that discussion, which was so 617 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: premature when Pollard was a rookie and everybody was mad 618 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: at Zeke because he was in Cabo expecting a ninety 619 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: Wait he got that ninety million dollars. Now it is 620 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: a valid conversation, and we're not dumbies. We understand that 621 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: most of Zeke's runs are inside he is that kind 622 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: of a runner, and all of Pollard's runs are on 623 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: the edges. That makes a difference. That's why he's got 624 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: a seven point seven average and Zeke is three point 625 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: nine right now. That so you have to understand that. 626 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: But I'm wondering if we could have this talk without 627 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: being a little negative about Zeke. Okay, So the reason 628 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: why Bobby and I got into it because that's all 629 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: I hear about it, and I knew that once Kellen 630 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: Moore employed Tony Pollard in that game and you saw 631 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: his burst and I think he had what eight point 632 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: four yards per carry, of course we're going to be 633 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: talking about it. I even went to the NFL network, 634 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: our research department. I was like, give me some high 635 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: level stats while I reached out to number offensive coordinators 636 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: in the league, and I said, how can I talk 637 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: about this? It's interesting note Pollard has faced a light 638 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: box six or fewer defenders on sixty two point five 639 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: percent of his rushes. Now, that makes a lot of 640 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: sense because typically you're going to be focused more on 641 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: guys like Zeke or focus on the passing game. When 642 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: both running backs have faced nonloaded boxes. Though this is interesting, 643 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: seven or fewer defenders, Pollard has outperformed Elliott. Now, I 644 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: would argue, sample size wise, then give me some numbers. 645 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: So again, statistics. You guys know how this works. You 646 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: can work the numbers as good as you want. But 647 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: the best explanation, right, the best explanation I can give 648 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: when talking to people, again, smarter than me offensive coordinators. 649 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: I've had some say running backs grow on trees. Basically, 650 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: you can find him. Look what she found, Alvin Kamarin. 651 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: What the fourth round? You found Tony Pollard late he 652 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: was a mid rounder. You can find other running backs. 653 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: I would just argue that Ezekiel elliot ism more complete back, 654 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: and this talk about moving him off the roster. To 655 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: your point, you can't do anything about the deal. I mean, 656 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: I was told repeatedly that Todd Gurley didn't deserve Todd 657 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 1: Gurley money, and then the year after that, Todd Gurley 658 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: the Rams didn't think he deserved that money, and then 659 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: Atlanta picked him up. And if you go and ask Atlanta, 660 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: would they do the deal again for Todd Gurley. No, 661 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: but you can't move Ezekiel Eliot office. I think only 662 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: the dead money is Tony Romo quality dead. And I 663 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: think only the ones that loved Pollard so much because 664 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: they were mad at Zeke would want to do that. Anyway, 665 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: we're not talking about him not being on the roster. 666 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: I think there's people who don't study contract that think 667 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: that you can move Zeke and get something for him. 668 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: And I'm like, let me explain to you how this works. 669 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: Like it's Madden, right, another team physically has to pick 670 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: up his contract. You're giving up that running back, but 671 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: you still have the dead money. He still works against 672 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: your cap, at least through twenty twenty two. So anytime 673 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: somebody brings up the discussion, I mean, I'm like, if 674 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: you look at the numbers or you're a fantasy football person, yes, 675 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard gives you more burst, and he's going to 676 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: get you more fantasy points if we're looking at just 677 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: these two well told, but his ekility isn't more complete 678 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: back and he allows Tony Pollard to have the burst 679 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: and have the game. So he has because his ekilid 680 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: is on the field and he's typically getting a lot 681 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: of attention. Show The legitimate question to me is not 682 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: about the roster, it's about the playing field. Should there 683 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: be less Zeke and more Pollard in terms of snaps? Well, 684 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: like what I was saying earlier about the coaching staff 685 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: using guys in the right way on the defensive side 686 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: of the ball, the offensive side of the ball is 687 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: the same thing, and they have through the first two games. 688 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, it's it's fun to react about 689 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: this stuff. I mean, we're two games in and it's 690 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: get rid of Zeke. Kellen Moore is the head coach, 691 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: like you know, I mean, but I will say so 692 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: to answer your question, though, I think I think that 693 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: I think you're foolish if you just come out with 694 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: a set plan for well for the next fifteen weeks. 695 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: This is what we do. No, every single team you 696 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: do something different against. Maybe you put out more Zeke 697 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: against this team. Maybe it's more Tony Pollard. You know, 698 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: that was the difference between these first two games. You know, 699 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: you don't think do you think that Tony Pollard had 700 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: a really good week of practice and we need to 701 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: get him out there against the Chargers. No, it's just 702 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: that matchup fit. Better to get him out there. That 703 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: didn't fit going against the Bucks, who they knew that 704 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,919 Speaker 1: they were gonna have to throw against hot hand theory. 705 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: Just like in basketball, he was the hot hand and 706 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: especially you know when you've got Joey Bosa, he's a 707 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: great pass rusher. But they leave something to be desired 708 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: on the edges in the run game, and they attacked that, 709 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: and they attacked it with Tony Pollard, who's, like you said, 710 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: bounce it outside, great burst. That's what worked for that 711 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: particular game. And you mentioned the longer I did right 712 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: about that yesterday. Like Mike told us in training camp, 713 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: this was going to happen in certain situations. I want 714 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: Zeke fresh for December and hopefully January. Tony's good. We 715 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: need to play Tony Moore. But let's let's, you know, 716 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: take some load off of Zeke. He's got. He's averaging 717 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: like two hundred and eighty carries a season first verse 718 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: five years. That's a lot, especially with the way the 719 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: schedule sets up. Like as much as we sit here 720 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: and want to analyze every game, like, for them, what 721 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: matters is that last month of the season because the 722 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: way the schedule is, that's when all the NFC East 723 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: games are. That's when they need Zeke to be at 724 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: his best. That's when they need this team to be 725 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: as healthy as they possibly can be playing their best ball. 726 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: That's what That's what Tampa had success with last year. 727 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: They certainly weren't clicking early in the year even middle 728 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: of the year. And that's what the Packers had success 729 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: with when Michael McCarthy won the Super Bowl. And it's 730 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: it's not as easy as people think it is. And 731 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna well, first of all, I wanted to say 732 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: this back to my buddy Kalishaw, who wrote a column 733 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: to sort of eat it me, because him and I 734 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: had this conversation a million times on ESPN because he 735 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: had a vision of Pollard very early and I would 736 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: just put up with it. No Zee, what have if 737 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: Zeke went to Michigan? Though maybe he's my running back 738 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: when you win me a national title? I get it. 739 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: But Callishaw's column once more, Pollard, I get it. He's 740 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: telling me secretly told you so, teld you so. And 741 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: I had to text him and say, yea, I hear 742 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: you but he had a great stat in there where 743 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 1: beside his first game ever his rookie year, every time 744 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: that Pollard gets twelve carries or more, he pops every 745 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: time one, two, three of them are hundred yard games. 746 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: But it's not that simple, because, like you said, Zeke 747 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: is a more complete back. Zeke, when he was young, 748 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: he would run inside and then he would pop it 749 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: outside and break the game. Maybe he can't do that anymore. 750 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: He may be a little past his threshold of being 751 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: able to pop it outside and go eighty. So Pollard 752 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 1: can do it, but you, but the personnel has to 753 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: be out there where the defense. No, the personnel's out there, 754 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: Zeke could hide it and then do it to you. 755 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: That's what the good complete backs do. Now you need 756 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: Pollard for those kind of hits. You also needed Zeke 757 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: to be helping protect Dak in that first game against 758 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: that loaded defensive front. They would not have loved to 759 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: have Tony Pollard have to be in there and blocking 760 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: all the key blocks that Zeke didn't making the game. 761 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: And of course I know everyone listening is going to say, well, 762 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: we don't pay ninety million dollars for imps. Fans really 763 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: should forget about the money. I've been saying that for years. 764 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: They can't do it well. And I think the other 765 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: thing that stands out to me is, you know, John, 766 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: you were kind of touching on it wasn't the one 767 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: probably had with this offense for the longest time was 768 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: it was so vanilla, it was so predictable. And to 769 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: your point, we were having this conversation last week and 770 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: there was this thought that they probably were not going 771 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: to run the ball, they were going to air it out. 772 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: This is going to be a high scoring game. And 773 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: I told you, guys behind them, I told you guys, 774 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: I said, I think that they're going to run the 775 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 1: ball more this week. And I think the reason why 776 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: they didn't run it the way they wanted to was 777 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 1: because of that defensive front, so one of the number 778 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: one run defenses in the league. The other thing that 779 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: I would bring up to your point about has he 780 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: lost some of his zoom zoom or is it his 781 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: instincts or is there a hesitancy. Bobagger Well, Bob sterm 782 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: your boy the Athletic, I thought wrote a really interesting 783 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: article when you look at the routes that they're running. 784 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: His interpretation of it based on the way he was 785 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: seeing these guys running their routes. Was it does steem 786 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: like there's a little bit of a hesitancy or a 787 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: deliberateness about the way he's running. And I don't know 788 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 1: what that is. I'm not a running back. Maybe I'll 789 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 1: ask Zeke this week about that. Hey, is there any 790 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: hesitancy in the way you run these days? I think 791 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: it's seventeen hundred carries and pounding. He'll do it. And 792 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: I said this last year when JK. Dobbins broke one 793 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: for Baltimore. That's what Zeke used to do. It's about youth. 794 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he's been running. He's such a good inside 795 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: runner and people don't get that about Zeke. Those inside 796 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 1: runs change football games when they're done properly. What they do, too, 797 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 1: is they wear down a defense theoretically for the second half, 798 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: and then you bring in Tony Pollard and he's popping 799 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: off and they're tired. Yes, that's that's what ze can do. 800 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: It like, I don't think fans can take money out 801 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: of it. I don't think they can. But if you 802 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: do this whole thunder and lightning thing is not a 803 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: bad idea. The whole ron daye Tiki Barber thing. That's 804 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: kind of what they may have going. But you're and 805 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara did very good the whole boom and zoom 806 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: thing in New Orleans, and I think they kind of 807 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: tried to do that with Latavius Murray and Alvin, but 808 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: Latavius was no mark Ingram. And so when I look 809 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: at because I cover the Saints too, I look at 810 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: these two very much like I looked at Alvin Kamara 811 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: and mark Ingram, and it wasn't a bad duo when 812 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 1: it was working. H I just wonder how defenses won't 813 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: know it. I don't know if we've ever seen Pollard 814 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: as an inside runner. So that's my next question to Pollard. 815 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: Can you figure him out at some point? Well, that's 816 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If Zeke's not out there with him, 817 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 1: he's not going to run it inside. So that seems 818 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: pretty easy to figure out what they're gonna try to 819 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: do with him. But yeah, but let's not act like 820 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 1: they're just lining these guys up in the backfield running 821 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: some nineteen sixty five offense. I mean, look at some 822 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: of those handoffs at Tony Pollard. He was coming on 823 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: sweeps and things like that that on different plays you 824 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: can playoff that if a defense is doing something to 825 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: react to that, you don't hand it to him that 826 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: on that jet suite and then you throw to the 827 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: other side. I mean, Dak has done that plenty times. 828 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: It's not like it's a traditional like, well, Tony's in 829 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: the backfield, so they must be giving him the ball like. 830 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot of pre snap movement that keeps defenses 831 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: on their toes. So I don't I don't think that 832 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: there's going to be this oh well, now they've got 833 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: them all figured out, Like I just first of all, 834 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't think defenses are that good anymore. I really don't, 835 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: because there's just so much of a variety of offense 836 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: thrown out there all the time. Hard that everybody's doing 837 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: such wild different things. True that it's like a video game, man, right, 838 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is in a video game what he does? 839 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,439 Speaker 1: I said that last week, I think, but nobody's getting down. 840 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 1: John is literally on your curmussion like trajectory like it's 841 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: and I didn't say that well with my list, but 842 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: it's literally happening. Look perfect r it really do more 843 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: on Jane's teeth maybe coming up in a minute, but 844 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: showed us here. Slater Jane is here. Rob Phillips is here. 845 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm Steve Dennis. 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My old 891 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 1: buddy John Jacques Taylor wrote a pretty draw that piece 892 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: of work that you know Jane was talking about. Okay, 893 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,399 Speaker 1: what are the money ramifications of Zeke no longer being 894 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 1: on the on the roster? And now Jock is saying 895 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: that John Fossil is going to get McCarthy fire. And 896 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: I wondered because I thought his comment and let me 897 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: let me give it when he screwed up on the 898 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,439 Speaker 1: fourth and twenty and decided to go after the punter 899 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: and cost the Cowboys points before the half, I think 900 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys fans aren't the play it safe types. I was 901 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: going to give them what they wanted. I hope they're happy. 902 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: I enjoyed the comment personally, you did. Let me also 903 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: says not that wrong. Yeah, but let me just say 904 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: though that context. You need context because there's some people 905 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: that I had talked to that just read the quote 906 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: and we're just like, man, what an arrogant response. But like, 907 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: if you know John Fossil, not that like we're buddies, 908 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 1: but I've been around him enough to know was personality, Like, 909 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of sarcasm and joking that goes into that. 910 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 1: That's not really how he is. There was just a 911 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: good as good of a chance as him coming up 912 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: there saying that, as him walking up to that podium 913 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 1: and going, yeah, guys, I know I shouldn't have done 914 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 1: that was ridiculous. Like he is very candid about a 915 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: lot of things. He's not the type that comes out 916 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,919 Speaker 1: there and just goes, yeah, well I coach in the NFL. 917 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: You don't I did the right thing. I don't really 918 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: care what you think, right, Like that's it stuck me 919 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 1: as being sarcastic. Yeah, I was trying to what did 920 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: he mean by it? I don't think and what he 921 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: was doing was he was he was taking the blame 922 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,879 Speaker 1: off of him and putting it on cowboys. No, see, 923 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: I didn't interpret that way. I didn't interpret that way. 924 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: I think I think for the longest time around here 925 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 1: a lot of the fans hated that this regime under 926 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett played it so safe. This they haven't played 927 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: it safe, and it hasn't really paid off in some 928 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: situations for them. I mean, he kind of heard Jerry 929 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: Jones saying on one who five through the fan this week, 930 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: he doesn't want it to be that weld and loose. 931 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is saying that, right, he wants it to 932 00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: be a little bit more, a little bit more buckled 933 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: up a conservative. But in fact Arkansas days right, the 934 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: fundamentals broom handlestick behind your back. But I think he 935 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: was being and to your point, I think John's a 936 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: little goofy. I mean, you certainly saw that when he 937 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: brought up his vessect to me. I actually joked at 938 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,439 Speaker 1: them about that. I was like, what did your wife 939 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: think about it? He's like, well, just better to ask 940 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: forgiveness than permission. It was, you know, she was fine 941 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 1: with it out to the fact, so I think that 942 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 1: is a perfect example of him having a little fun 943 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 1: with that situation and trying to infuse a little bit 944 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: of fun here. You know, there's just some people that 945 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: try to inject humor in awkward situations. I felt like 946 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: that's what he was doing. Mike McCarthy has done that. 947 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: I mean, how many times has he been up on 948 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: the podium and said things were like, I just didn't 949 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 1: land the right way. I think it's really easy to 950 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 1: judge people for what they say up on a podium. Yeah, 951 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 1: unless you're in that position, right, So what was your reaction? 952 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: I thought he was serious because he said it more 953 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: than once. But I think I think more than anything, 954 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: he was pissed off that they didn't that they called 955 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: the penalty because he didn't think it was a penalty 956 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: because I think if you go back and look, they 957 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: might have tipped the ball before they struck the kicker, 958 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: which punter, which would have been clean block. He was 959 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: pissed off about it more than anything. And he's not 960 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,800 Speaker 1: gonna He's not gonna stop being aggressive. He's just not 961 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: or at least trying to talk McCarthy into doing those 962 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: kind of things. That's who he is. That's who he's 963 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: been for his whole career. Well, he had a couple 964 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: of pretty big snaff foods last year with that mentality. 965 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: Aggression is great, but when it's fourth and twenty, all 966 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: you want is the ball back and a chance to 967 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: get points before the halt. No make so that's a 968 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: horrible time for aggression, make no mistake. That's two weeks 969 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: in a row too, because week one we talked about 970 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: the threshold for field goal range. He goes with a 971 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 1: sixty yard kick with Greg's rline right before halftime, and 972 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: the goat is sitting there like, yeah, I'll take the 973 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: ball at midfield and they got lucky there and they 974 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: got lucky in this game too that they clanked it 975 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 1: off the upright. The problem. What I was just gonna 976 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: say to suggest that John is going to be one 977 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: of the lone reasons that Mike McCarthy gets fired out 978 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 1: and read the article. But if you want to knock Mike, 979 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: he has made some questionable coaching decisions in his time here. 980 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't quite understand what all the coordinators do. 981 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what Ben McAdoo does. I like Ben, 982 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what he does. So those things I 983 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: think could affect him, but I think it's I think 984 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,839 Speaker 1: it's a stretch to say John Fossil alone is going 985 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: to be the reason he doesn't have a job, because 986 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 1: I was going to say the reason why he's not 987 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: gonna have a job in the future. I don't know 988 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: if you guys have touched on this enough. Tony Romo 989 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: is very close to Jerry Jones. I don't think it's 990 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: any coincidence that he just threw out that Kelln Moore 991 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: is going to be a hell of a head coach somewhere. 992 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: I just wondered to myself why he felt the need 993 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 1: to bring it up, because you know, we're all going 994 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: to be talking about it, and then to put Mike 995 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: McCarthy in a position of having to talk about that, 996 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: right well, I just I thought that was interesting. And 997 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: then the question came up after Week one and Kelen 998 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: actually has to answer it. But there's no secret. I mean, 999 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 1: Kelen Moore is Jerry's next Jason Garrett. We've all known that, 1000 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: right kell would have been asked that this week regardless, 1001 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 1: because he interviewed with the Eagles in the offseason for 1002 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: their Heck, he was going to be asked about that regardless. 1003 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,280 Speaker 1: But but Tony Romo is not doing the situation favors 1004 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: because people know how if Michael Irvin or Tony Romo 1005 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: say things right, they didn't just pull it out of 1006 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 1: the sky, is my point. Yeah, no, it was very 1007 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: interesting they said that about the special teams play, though 1008 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: my issue with it too is that all teams are 1009 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 1: not created equal and this team's heavy, heavy, heavy strength 1010 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 1: is not just their offense, but their franchise quarterback. And 1011 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: with two minutes to go, just give him the ball 1012 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 1: back and let him operate, please, like, we don't need 1013 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 1: it to be running into like, don't even put your 1014 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: guys in that position, because yeah, did it look like 1015 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 1: there might have been a holding there. Sure, there's also 1016 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 1: three guys from the Cowboys running full speed at this punter. 1017 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: There's a chance that something can go wrong. You can 1018 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,839 Speaker 1: trip them. Don't even put yourself in that position. Get 1019 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: the ball, take the two minutes you had time outs left, 1020 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,959 Speaker 1: get up the field. And speaking of Kelvin Moore, he's 1021 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,879 Speaker 1: the one that should have been running one hundred miles 1022 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: an hour, how however long it took him to get 1023 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: in Fossil's face and go, what are you doing? Get 1024 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,240 Speaker 1: the ball back to my quarterback from the ways, that's 1025 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: his call. He has the call on that, like what 1026 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: he wants to do. Mike McCarthy also says Kellen has 1027 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 1: the call an offense. So maybe to your point, he 1028 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 1: gives full autonomy to all of those coaches, which also 1029 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 1: gives you culpable deniability at the end of the season. Well, 1030 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: that's Jock's point about getting McCarthy fired. His point is 1031 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 1: that McCarthy needs to have some control over that, but 1032 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: the joint he's gonna helplessly get fired because Fossil has 1033 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 1: complete control over these kind of bad decisions. So maybe 1034 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 1: his point was McCarthy should have a little talk with 1035 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: a special teams coordinator and go all right, let's let's 1036 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 1: let's not just decide crazy stuff whenever it please, you 1037 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But Jane should have had to 1038 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 1: talk with the defensive coordinators last year when things were 1039 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: going exactly like, he's not gonna get him. He's not 1040 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: gonna get Mike fired. He would get himself fired. That's 1041 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 1: exactly what happened last year. Yeah, So to Jane's point, Yeah, 1042 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: I don't understand how that would affect Mike. That could 1043 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 1: that it could affect Mike to where they're like, yeah, Mike, um, 1044 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to You're gonna have to get a 1045 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: new special teams coordinator like that. That could potentially happen. Sure, 1046 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what happened with the defensive coordinator position 1047 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 1: in the off season. But I don't think that that. 1048 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it depends on how far we're down the road. 1049 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 1: You guys know. Coach Fossil, so you tell me. I mean, 1050 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 1: I think he probably got wind of Jerry's comment on 1051 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 1: the radio. Oh yeah, he's probably thinking. Okay, I definitely 1052 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 1: think John is. I think a lot of these coaches 1053 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: on there are the type that do keep up with 1054 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 1: social media what is being said. I don't think he 1055 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 1: cares though, Like that's his style. That's how he's always been. 1056 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not gonna change either because it's not 1057 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,760 Speaker 1: just but it is different when Jerry's making a comment. 1058 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 1: It is, but it's different. But his style, his philosophy 1059 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: is not only to run those plays, but to put 1060 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 1: it in the back of somebody's mind during the week. Hell, 1061 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: they might do something crazy, something wild. Okay, that's part 1062 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: of this flosky. It's in everybody's mind. They watched the 1063 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 1: tape from the first two games. Let's chill out on 1064 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,320 Speaker 1: their crazy ex girlfriend. I don't know what she's gonna do, 1065 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 1: she's wild. All I kept thinking, though, is when he 1066 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: was joking about Michael Parsons wanting to play every position, 1067 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: I want to be like, don't get any ideas, Like 1068 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: if you've already asked it to do enough. The last 1069 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 1: thing that this coaching staff could could have happened to 1070 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: them is to use their best defensive player on some 1071 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,839 Speaker 1: special teams play and get him injured on the way. 1072 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 1: That would get everyone fired well. And also, let's factor 1073 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 1: in if you're really concerned about the special teams, it 1074 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 1: might be there might be some behind the scenes where 1075 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 1: Brian Anger can't throw the football. And why I'm bringing 1076 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 1: this up is because if he can, we saw what 1077 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 1: he did with Johnny Hecker. That was one of the 1078 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: things John Fossil was known about was how often Hecker 1079 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: would throw the football out of these punting situations. It 1080 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 1: might be good that Brian Anger can't throw because it 1081 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 1: could get even more wild. Like he's not There's never 1082 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,800 Speaker 1: a shortage of ideas with John Fossil. He has tons 1083 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 1: of different scenarios and things. And that's the thing, like, 1084 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 1: how many things does he come up with it? Mike's like, no, no, 1085 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 1: we're not going that. Judging by what we've seen so far, 1086 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,919 Speaker 1: I would love to know the ones that are told 1087 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: like no, we can't. You know what though, as time 1088 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 1: goes by. I said this the other day, the fake punt. 1089 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 1: It's Washington. I think all of us saw that were like, 1090 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 1: my god, what what why? Yeah, unless you're unless you're 1091 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: But I Mike rationalized it, you know, by saying this 1092 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 1: team was was broken with injuries. We had to we 1093 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: weren't going to win that game straight up. So well 1094 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: after that play, yeah, you definitely we're gonna win that. Well, 1095 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,359 Speaker 1: it's not it's not fossil going rogue. I just want 1096 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,320 Speaker 1: to know how much stats are actually playing into wins 1097 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 1: losses for this team with Mike McCarthy or or does 1098 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 1: it go back to phil of the game. You know, 1099 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: we keep hearing so much about how do the statistics. 1100 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: Really hope to see analytics, the the genius analytics. We 1101 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: got about eight minutes here, as much as I'd love 1102 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: to hear about Jane's crazy ex girlfriends in those eight minutes. 1103 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: Instead my ear from what you start rumors? Now you guys, 1104 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 1: I was like, where is this going? I mean I'm 1105 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: not there yet, she said, superse like of not yours 1106 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 1: but a crazy ex girlfriend. Um, do we already have 1107 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:02,280 Speaker 1: a way? Phillips, Jason, Garrett, sit you here two games 1108 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: in where Kelvin Moore's answering questions about being the next 1109 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 1: head coach and McCarthy's just sitting there listening to it. 1110 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 1: You could take this route. I wasn't here for that. 1111 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 1: Oh for what? No, I don't think it's the same thing. 1112 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,720 Speaker 1: And let me put it on this level. Then, before 1113 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,879 Speaker 1: you continue, when Garrett in the beginning, it was who 1114 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:28,360 Speaker 1: gets blamed, who gets credit? And if Garrett is sought 1115 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 1: after by another team, will Jerry make sure and keep him? 1116 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: Same question with Kellen. If this offense is as great 1117 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 1: as this offense is going to be and a team 1118 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,760 Speaker 1: is going to make a play, which you just mentioned 1119 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 1: he had an interview already in the offseason, is Jerry 1120 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 1: gonna let Kellen Moore go to another team? See it's 1121 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,840 Speaker 1: the same conversation we have with old Wade and Garrett 1122 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: years ago. Well, poor McCarthy just has to sit there 1123 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: who gets the credit. Is McCarthy ever gonna get the 1124 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 1: credit if this team jumps out to an in one 1125 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 1: record or is it gonna be Kelln Moore and Dan 1126 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: Quinn on the spot. That's a great question to me. 1127 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't view it the same. Jason Garrett was like 1128 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 1: part of the family when he when he I mean 1129 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 1: he was here for twenty years and then he got 1130 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,879 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator job, and Dad worked for the team. 1131 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: Dad worked for the team like I just I view 1132 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 1: it through a different prism. That being said, they had 1133 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 1: absolutely no intention of letting him go last year. You know, 1134 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 1: the poise job came open Eagles job, and to your point, 1135 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett had I think it was Atlanta and Baltimore 1136 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 1: turned both of those down. Sean Payton almost went to Raiders. 1137 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 1: Remember that him handsomely? Yes? Yes, I think Kelvin looked 1138 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 1: good and all right in the family portrait. Well what 1139 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: if Jerry thinks he is the next round page? See, 1140 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,760 Speaker 1: I thought there was weird foreshadowing already at camp. Remember, 1141 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: I think I would have side texted you this with 1142 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 1: shadow we were sitting there, because that's what reporters do 1143 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 1: from time of time. Never um we used to talk 1144 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: you guys text yeah, but go ahead, and then we 1145 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: delete the text messages. There was that moment up on 1146 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: the podium and I don't I think it's when he 1147 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:11,319 Speaker 1: was talking about Barry and Jimmy or something along the lines, 1148 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 1: and there was this awkward like moment where they were 1149 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 1: talking about a coach in the wings and Mike McCarthy 1150 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,320 Speaker 1: was up at the podium. Do you guys remember this? No? 1151 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean I was therefore now remember And I just 1152 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 1: kept thinking, Man, if this comes, if this comes out, 1153 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,320 Speaker 1: that's going to be the clip all of us in 1154 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 1: the media play back that and these comments from Tony 1155 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 1: and Kellen Moore this week. I just I think my 1156 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 1: biggest wonder is, to your point, you've just asked all 1157 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,800 Speaker 1: three of us bet reporters who've covered this team the 1158 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 1: last two years. I don't know what I assign success 1159 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 1: to this team to Mike four. I have a couple 1160 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,839 Speaker 1: of examples of their failure because of him. I don't 1161 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,800 Speaker 1: know if I have notable examples of success as a 1162 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,840 Speaker 1: result of him. Defensively, I don't know who made the 1163 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 1: dan Quinn's suggestion or what necessarily got dan Quinn here, 1164 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: but Dan Quinn is single handily turned around that defense 1165 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 1: with the help of guys like George Edwards. Facts he 1166 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,640 Speaker 1: looks promising. Correct, when I look at offense, you know, 1167 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 1: he Mike McCarthy straight up told me if you know, 1168 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 1: if you install it, you call it, basically saying that's 1169 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 1: all him. Okay. So then when I also look at 1170 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 1: what gets this team going from a raw, raw standpoint, 1171 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 1: that's Dak Prescott. So tell me then what exactly Mike 1172 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,920 Speaker 1: is responsible for. Now. I don't know everything. I'm not 1173 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 1: a player on this team. I'm not in the locker room. 1174 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm not privy to the discussions with personnel. But I 1175 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 1: don't hear anybody when people asked about Dan Quinn this 1176 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 1: summer and their short amount of time with him. Think 1177 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 1: of all the descriptors and the adjectives you describe him. 1178 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 1: Have you heard that many people come out and say 1179 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 1: as much about their head coach. I'm not trying to 1180 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 1: stir things up here. I'm just saying no. But I 1181 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 1: would say I would say the two things that stand 1182 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 1: out to me. One is that whether you think he's 1183 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 1: doing it directly or indirectly, there's no question he's made 1184 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 1: this team much more aggressive on both sides of the 1185 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,480 Speaker 1: ball than it was for the previous decade. It's they're 1186 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 1: much more aggressive special teams offense, defense. They take chances, 1187 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 1: and they are much more willing to adjust and do 1188 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 1: different things. The other part is that also kind of 1189 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 1: that kind of trickles over to the draft, and I 1190 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 1: do like that the way that they've drafted with him 1191 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 1: as head coach, he can clearly tell that he's allowed 1192 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: them to go after the best player that's there as 1193 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 1: opposed to we got to get the best player that 1194 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 1: fits this this system of what we're doing, and it's 1195 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 1: allowed them to get some players that could end up 1196 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: being really key pieces that I don't know that we 1197 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 1: necessarily saw a lot of that in the past. Now 1198 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 1: there were good drafts and things like that, but was 1199 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 1: there the development and where these key players are stepping up? 1200 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: And again it's still pretty early, but those are the 1201 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: two areas. While we'll say that are different than the 1202 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 1: previous regional Well, is that Mike or is that finlt 1203 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 1: and letting Will McClay and his staff have more auntonomy. 1204 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 1: In other words, it's that another example of I'm going 1205 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,919 Speaker 1: to stay in whatever my lane is. I don't know. Well, 1206 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is a discussion for any 1207 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 1: coach who doesn't call the defense or the offense true 1208 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 1: the CEO type. I mean, that was the Jason Garrett 1209 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 1: for a walk about coach killed at. Yeah, you're temperically 1210 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 1: a coach who well, wait, he did win a Super Bowl. 1211 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: It's usually super Bowl winning coaches that can be the 1212 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:29,920 Speaker 1: walkabout coach with tremendous respect and snap their fingers. And 1213 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,280 Speaker 1: I guess McCarthy is that. But think how involved when 1214 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 1: I think of like some of the league's best coaches, 1215 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, John Harball, even Cliff Kingsbury at a young 1216 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,160 Speaker 1: age working with the offense. Bill Belichick, my townent, Bill Belichick, 1217 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 1: think how involved they are in there. There is no 1218 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 1: question the bucks stops stops at those guys, and they 1219 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,600 Speaker 1: are heavily involved on at least one side of the ball. 1220 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that, you know, I know Doug nuss Meyer, 1221 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 1: I know Kellen Moore. No, they're heavily involved with offense. 1222 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 1: We clearly know John fall so he fault to special teams. 1223 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's no question danical So I just don't know. And 1224 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 1: again I am not trying to trash Mike McCarthy, I 1225 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 1: just don't know because I haven't been told or seen well. 1226 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,919 Speaker 1: And and and by the way, the play that drove 1227 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 1: me crazy at the end of the game, whether the 1228 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,520 Speaker 1: clock went off or whether a cart got in front 1229 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 1: of Kellen's eye, that the fact of the matter was 1230 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 1: neither one of them was ready to call a play. 1231 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 1: I mean the Pollard is just slowly walking back to 1232 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,240 Speaker 1: them to the huddle. They were not ready to call 1233 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 1: the next play. And that is any offensive coordinator is 1234 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 1: gonna have something in a in a quick fashion to 1235 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 1: get eight to ten more yards a period. It was 1236 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 1: field goal range though, yeah it was they were in field, 1237 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 1: that they were happy where they were, which is very 1238 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 1: odd at fifty six. But zerline came through for him. 1239 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,840 Speaker 1: But we're just mashing it around here, by the way, 1240 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 1: that yeah, we're not none of this thing is this 1241 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:03,440 Speaker 1: isn't it's just chatting. We're just one dream um. Kellen 1242 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 1: Moore is gonna be a head coach, so Jerry's gonna 1243 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 1: have to Jerry Stephen. The whole regime is going to 1244 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: have to go through that again. Do we really want 1245 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 1: this guy to go coach somewhere else? Because think of 1246 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:20,600 Speaker 1: the ones you got away, Mike Zimmer, Sean Payton. There's 1247 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 1: another one in this staff that they've let get away. 1248 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 1: Give me another Todd Bowles. Make him the head coach 1249 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 1: in waiting. Well, I was there. That works so well. Hey, 1250 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 1: McDaniels is not going anywhere in New England. He's waiting. 1251 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 1: Whatever that change. I will say it did work out 1252 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 1: real well at Poor State for Jimbo Fisher. Didn't work 1253 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 1: out there. You asked me for one, I'm giving you, okay, 1254 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 1: monetarily sure did um? Interesting? All right? Thanks for letting 1255 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,240 Speaker 1: me chat little cowboys football with you guys today, Slater. Thanks, 1256 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,320 Speaker 1: we'll see you again. So one more smile with the teeth. 1257 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,840 Speaker 1: There you go, man, those things are aligned. It was 1258 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,959 Speaker 1: the drilling ball, was it. It's like it's nightmare field. 1259 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 1: And every time I look at that clothes, it's look 1260 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 1: at those there we go awesome, Oh my god. You 1261 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,280 Speaker 1: know when I go in there, they put like this 1262 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 1: like slid to like give it space. You know what 1263 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 1: I promised myself, Slater. I was in local TV for 1264 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,920 Speaker 1: thirty two years, and I promise when I hit the 1265 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 1: age of sixty, I would not have a cosmetic care 1266 01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 1: in the world because lucky you have a wife who 1267 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 1: loves you. Steve, Well, let's do next week. That isn't 1268 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 1: suggesting some kind of work. No, but what I'm saying 1269 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,360 Speaker 1: is I have lived. I'm sixty now, look good man, 1270 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 1: and I don't even need it. And TV you always 1271 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 1: have to care. I know you gotta put the spoons 1272 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 1: under your eyes. I actually do have I have you 1273 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 1: still want to be doing TV when you're sixty? Hell yea, 1274 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 1: I do? Sure she will. I make a cockroach. You 1275 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 1: know how. It's gonna be kill me. You'll be the 1276 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 1: last survivor. Let's go to Slater Live. Wait a minute, 1277 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 1: there's nobody there and talks to you Tomorrow. We got Chill, 1278 01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 1: Clarence Hill Junior and Jory Epstein joins the Mediamash Fund. 1279 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 1: That'll be our Foresune with Nick Eatman tomorrow. Thanks for listening, 1280 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 1: Chris Beam, Rookie, thank you for your fabulous work. Is 1281 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 1: always have a good bonus. It's impressed Wednesday. If you 1282 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 1: haven't done anything bonus like yet, do it because the 1283 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 1: coach says you need to have a good night. This 1284 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 1: has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 1285 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,640 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys football Club