1 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on eight 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: He looks live on a first Friday Miracle edition to 7 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown's Daily. I am merely Bo. He is the 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: great z. What can we talk about? What you had here? 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: Where? 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 4: What it looked like a little pasta fajule soup or 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 4: a ministrant? And then what do you got on the 12 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 4: main plate there? 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 3: She had a little I made an amalgamation keen wass 14 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: and chili. Uh some college flower? 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 5: Is that a fish? 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: That's a chicken? That's a chicken. 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: Bro Is it slightly breaded or is it grill? 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 6: Now? 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: I think it maybe has some tumeric on it. 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: Would be my little bit of tumeric on them. 21 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 3: Quite yellow? Yeah it is. It is. 22 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: That's why I thought maybe it was some sort of 23 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: a breaded fish. No, not, that's not really my bag. 24 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: Baby. 25 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: You don't like a breaded fish. 26 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 3: You like it naked. Well, yeah, fish is not where 27 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 3: I'm going first up, that's fishes down the. 28 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 4: List do you think it's on the top of the 29 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 4: list for anybody. Some people really do like fish. 30 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: I bet for a pescatarian it would be on the 31 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: top of the pescatarian. 32 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 4: Good job out of you on that one, my father 33 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 4: in law, that's number one draft pick right now, salmon 34 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,639 Speaker 4: and then two buckets of bud light for dinner. 35 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 7: Yikes, I'm not kidding. Yeah, thinking I don't know what's 36 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 7: going on. 37 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 2: Well, that would do it. That's awesome. Good job at am. 38 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. I like ahi tuna. I like Chilean sea bass. 39 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can talk me into that. 40 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: And then maybe a swordfish, maybe a halibit. But I mean, 41 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: this is not this is not a world that I 42 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: live in very often. No. 43 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 4: I like a hog fish, which is very good. You 44 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 4: only have in Florida or that's the only place I've 45 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: had it. Kobia I enjoy too. I like a grouper 46 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 4: if it's fresh, okay, But I don't know that any 47 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 4: of those that If you go into a white tablecloth 48 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 4: and there are stakes. 49 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: As options, that's where I'm going. It's growing to the meats. Baby, 50 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: I like the meats. 51 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: That's right. 52 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 4: So the way it goes, Uh, well, could you tell me. 53 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 4: We had an availability today we did. 54 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: I don't know that I can tell you anything. It 55 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: was an availability that I think didn't provide more questions 56 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: than answers. I think the questions that were questions remain 57 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: the questions, and that is, you know, will Deshaun Watson 58 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 3: play this week? I don't know. I certain he doesn't either. 59 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: I think that there is optimism that he will play 60 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 3: this week. As I said on Monday, I think that 61 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: is that would be a stated goal. I just don't 62 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: know if if that's going to happen or if we're 63 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: going to have to have you know, p J. Walker 64 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: back out there again getting it done for the for 65 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns, trying to win his second consecutive start. 66 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: So as this week unfolds, it will become more clear. 67 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 3: What I do know is that the Browns will be 68 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: taking the best defense in modern NFL history indian Indianapolis. 69 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: And if we can't play full complimentary football, we won't. 70 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 3: If we can, we will, and it depends, you know, 71 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: we'll find out. I guess as the week goes on 72 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 3: there and I'm sure I think we play well, we 73 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: will play it later on when talked and it was 74 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: great to see him. I talked with him. You know, 75 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: he's he is very hopeful that he can get to go, 76 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: and it's just going to be kind of see as 77 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: he goes through things this week, how does it how 78 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: does it respond? How does his shoulder respond? We did 79 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: hear about micro tears, that there are micro tears of 80 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: his rotator. 81 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: I don't even know what any of that means. None 82 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: of it sounds good. I just don't know what it means. 83 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: I think what it means is that there is clear 84 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: there are clearly tears that maybe would not show up 85 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: as a big tear on like an MRI, but that 86 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: are affecting the functionality of the shoulder. 87 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 88 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think that, you know, in retrospect, now 89 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: that you have some weeks now on this, and and 90 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 4: when what is practice happening now? I mean, I'm coming 91 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 4: in hot, I'm bague. He's got two lanes. 92 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 7: One backed up a little bit. This is with the 93 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 7: victory Monday and Tuesday, the first one of the year 94 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 7: of these, so everything's backed up a little bit. Availability 95 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 7: was backed up. Practice doesn't isn't set to go till 96 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 7: like two o'clock. 97 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: Now, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a tough beat, by 98 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: the way, to get off the freeway and go all 99 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: of the traffic to two lanes and then to one 100 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: at the at one light. 101 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 4: I mean, you know it's not ideal. I did not 102 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 4: enjoy it about I was coming in hot. Yeah, coming 103 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 4: a little hot. You might be better off going I 104 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 4: will now, I will, knowing what I know now, I 105 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 4: would make. 106 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: The first right get off it. And yes, exactly, sneak 107 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 3: back is what I'll do. Come around the side hatch. 108 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: That's going to be the plan tomorrow if it's still 109 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: the case. 110 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 4: So I just think, what the reason that this is 111 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: confusing and puzzling and head scratching after so many weeks? Now, 112 00:04:55,279 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 4: is the original plan all the way back to to 113 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: See or to Baltimore rather that he was the plan 114 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 4: was he was going to place that Sunday. So that 115 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 4: is by the time we play what is that three 116 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: weeks removed? Yea, by the time we play against the 117 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 4: Colts this Sunday. 118 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, so as four weeks removed from the sustaining of 119 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: the injury correct against Tennessee. 120 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 4: You're talking about a month now since the injury, so 121 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 4: you haven't he hasn't practiced now in since then, right. 122 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: Since it honestly wasn't even clear if he was going 123 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 3: to practice today at write give A, I was doing 124 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: interviews at the same time that he was speaking. But 125 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: I believe that it is also true that he did 126 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: not say whether or not he was going to practice 127 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 3: today TVD. 128 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so if he doesn't practice, I think what you're 129 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 4: looking for from a Browns fan perspective, and it seems 130 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 4: like we're all kind of in this together in terms 131 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 4: of trying to figure out and even DeShawn trying to 132 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 4: figure out when he's going to. 133 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 2: Be able to go. Yeah, I think what you're looking 134 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: for is limited in practice, right, take a limited limited 135 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: kill for a limited you kill kill for something like that. 136 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 4: But if you have a DNP and you get a 137 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 4: DNP tomorrow, then I think we're at the point where 138 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: you have to question, like, if he only practices once, 139 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 4: can he play in an NFL game after not throwing 140 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 4: for a month? 141 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know if he can. I mean, you 142 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: say yes emphatically, he's better than the options that you 143 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: have and phated admirable, But at the same time, it's 144 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: like there's a good deal of rust that's going to 145 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: need to be knocked off. 146 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: It's been a long time. I mean it's been a month, buddy. Yeah, 147 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 3: that I would be less concerned. I mean, look, we're 148 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: talking about in the games that he has not played, 149 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: we have thrown five interceptions in two games. Is he 150 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: going to be better than that? Yeah? Yeah, he will be. 151 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 4: It's just going to take a ramp up here to 152 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 4: get him back to You'd love to see him, you know, 153 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 4: we just do something today, even if it's on his own, 154 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 4: something today with the team tomorrow, go on Friday and 155 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 4: then be ready to go. 156 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: That's that would be what you'd like to see, and 157 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: then I'd feel very good about it. 158 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm saying if it goes the other way and 159 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 4: he has any practice all the way to Saturday, well Friday, 160 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 4: Friday will be the one you really pay attention to. 161 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 4: If you have a d NP on Friday, then I 162 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: then you're it's not looking obviously not looking positive. And 163 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: then honestly, if you do just do it on Saturday, 164 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: then what he was at. 165 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: Fred Grietham asked him directly, do you think you'll play 166 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: and on Sunday? And he said, I think so. So 167 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: let's just kind of see how this goes over the 168 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: next few days. I don't think we need to jump 169 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: to any conclusions. We don't need to get You can 170 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: leave your jump to conclusions Matt in the in the closet. 171 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: It's a great idea. 172 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: It was a great idea. Just jumped right there to conclusions. 173 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: So yeah, we'll see, we'll see as it unfolds. You know, 174 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: you really really really want to get on a roll. 175 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: You really want to get this moment. You want to 176 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 3: get to four and two. Four and two puts this 177 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 3: season in a totally different spot. And so I think 178 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: this is a very important game number one, to show 179 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: that we can win. Ah, the great Brad Melon. Look 180 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: at them, Look at the great Brad Melon. 181 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: I like, he's got the cutoffs now. I like that. 182 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nice. 183 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: Look bella chick in, very BELLACHICKI in feels like you 184 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: just take a fabric scissor and he. 185 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: Just did it right. Yeah, just crushed it. 186 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: I like that. 187 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: Lak. Here here's the thing that we've got to get over. 188 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: The Browns are three and thirteen following a win since 189 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: the start of the twenty twenty one season. 190 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 7: That's not great. 191 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: Well, that's it. You can't be a team of consequence, 192 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: no under those awesome season. So the rounds are not 193 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: won back to back games since Week twelve and thirteen 194 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty two, which was the Tampa Bay overtime win, 195 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: Tom Brady's final game at Clton Brown Stadium and then 196 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson's first start down in Houston. You have got 197 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: to be able to stack wins. Three and thirteen following 198 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 3: a win is and by the way, that's the worst 199 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 3: record in the NFL following a win since twenty twenty one. 200 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 3: We have got to figure out a way to stack wins, 201 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: and so obviously you want to do that at full 202 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: strength or as close as you can be to do it. 203 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: This is a team in a colts as I've now 204 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 3: watched them, I've gone through there very extensive and kudos 205 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: to them, Media Guide, but this is a team that 206 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 3: this is a team that is quite beatable for the 207 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns, and they've got to go out there and 208 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 3: handle their business. Is a very important game to win. 209 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 4: It's a must win if you're going to be a 210 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 4: consequential team, if you're going to make the playoffs, if 211 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 4: you're going to be a team that is going to 212 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 4: make a little bit of noise. 213 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: Yes, and this is a must win. That's the way 214 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: that it got to go. They're not good. They're not 215 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: They're not as I are right now. 216 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 4: They just got the news today their quarterback is going 217 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 4: to be up season ending surgery, Anthony Richardson. So he's 218 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 4: done for the year. So it'll be Minshew mania. You've 219 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 4: gone over great length. Minshew's strengths and his weaknesses. His 220 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: weaknesses are considerable when you have time to prepare for him, 221 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: when you get him off his spot, and when you're 222 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 4: playing man defense. 223 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 3: So all of those things we do well, Yes, all 224 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: of them we do well. Don't let them throw an 225 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: easy first read. He's throwing the ball. He's average in 226 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: five yards in the air per attempt this year. That's 227 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: like two yards below his career average. And you could 228 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: see it once Jack took away that first read. He 229 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 3: was toasting that game. He threw three picks. He threw 230 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: about six that should have been picked. I mean they 231 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: dropped some easy ones. They had one that was called 232 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 3: back on a defensive off sides. I mean they had 233 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: a lot there. And for the Colt Grover Stuart, their 234 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: nose tackle, who has been very good next to the 235 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 3: Forrest Buckner, he is suspended for six games for violating 236 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 3: the Lead League substance abuse policy. Is considered one of 237 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: the better interior run defenders in the league. And look, 238 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 3: we don't know the status of our quarterback, so this 239 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 3: is going to be a game where we're gonna have 240 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: to have success on the ground like we did last week. Yep, 241 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: that's a big loss for them. That's a very big 242 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: loss for them. You don't hear a Grover very often. Oh, Grover, 243 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 3: it's very good. 244 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 2: Is that Sesame Street? 245 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 7: Grover? 246 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: Groover? 247 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, of course, I can't remember. 248 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 4: I it was Sesame Street or it was the Muppets. Yeah, Grover, Yeah, 249 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: Grover's that's solid, very good. Out of that, we have 250 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 4: some other news. Michael Dunn placed on IR yesterday, played 251 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 4: in Sunday's game through a calf injury. 252 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: And you mentioned the Grover Stewart news. 253 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 4: Alec Pierce did not practice today, coach change Steak and 254 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 4: saying that we'll see if Braden Smith plays their starting 255 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 4: right tackle on Sunday as well. 256 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: If he does not, it would be Blake Freeland, the 257 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 3: fourth round rookie out of BYU who's made three starts 258 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: for this team, two at left tackle, one at right tackle. 259 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 3: He's given up a team high thirteen pressures one sack. 260 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 3: Last week against the Jags who have Josh Allen and 261 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 3: Trevon Walker, so they've got some some talented edge. Both 262 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 3: tackles gave up a sack and six pressures. So and 263 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: that's with Bernard Ryman, the Austrian Oak. He's from Austria. 264 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: I did know that didn't play football until he just 265 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 3: drop the well. The Austrian Oak is Arnold. 266 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 4: Oh, I did not know that that was his name. 267 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 4: You know, I haven't seen that doc yet. That's the 268 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 4: one I know that you told me. 269 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: I gotta watch. Watch, even if you only watch. There's 270 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: three parts to it. They're all good. The first is 271 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: strictly about him as a bodybuilder and like that life. 272 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: The second one is about all of his movies and 273 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: especially the comedies which are hysterical. And then the third 274 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: is about his political career, which and. 275 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: Rank them, rank them one two three, one two three. Okay, 276 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: first two you got to see, and then. 277 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: The third it's interesting. It's still interesting. Yeah, But and 278 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: he has to get you know, cathartic about his transgressions. 279 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: And oh I don't want that. No, the first two 280 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: or bodybuilding one is fairly pure joys and just like 281 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: he's such an animal. But you gotta watch all three 282 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: because at the end they tie it up and he 283 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: comes back to you gotta watch all three. Nonetheless, Yes, 284 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: watch up. Yeah, the Austrian Oak that was his nickname. 285 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Yeah, that's very very good. 286 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 4: It's pretty interesting, including the win over Tennessee this season 287 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 4: Stefanski seven or zero against the AFC. 288 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: Never lost, never lost. He beats the AFC South on 289 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 3: af level. 290 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 2: Level. Did you see her waving at Jimmy Johnson's. 291 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: Great from like three suits over. I've been in that stadium. 292 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: There's no way in the world, no matter what you're 293 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 3: doing that you could possibly hear what and somebody is 294 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: saying to you from two or three sweets away in box, 295 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: that's stopping nerv No, Jimmy Johnson's up there. He might 296 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 3: be rocking here. We don't know if he's got hearing. 297 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: A man, he's an older man. 298 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: Doesn't he at this point, so he's probably probably the 299 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: same age as jam. 300 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: Those things can't focus in as I know I had 301 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: first experienced by the way happy birthday to Pedro the 302 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: actual the actual birthday today October the eighteenth, nineteen fifty, 303 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: which puts him in at seventy three today for the 304 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: Great Pedro. So Jimmy Johnson's eighty yeah, dot yeah, really 305 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: dot zero? Do you know what else happens today? Today 306 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 3: is also the fifteenth and a half birthday of Ardendrea. 307 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: Fifteenth and a half. 308 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,119 Speaker 3: Yes, and the reason that's notable. 309 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 2: I was going to say there must be something. 310 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: Notable for that she gets her drivers permit today. 311 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 7: Wait, your kid's driving. 312 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 2: You can drive at fifteen and a half. 313 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: All with an with an adult in the car. 314 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, well this is there's First of all, there's I'm 315 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: sure you're terrified about certain things, and just unleashing her 316 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: being unleashed on the society, and then society unleashing to her. 317 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: That won't happen until April, a full unleashing. 318 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 2: This is. 319 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, So now you'll be in the mix. But there's 320 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 4: probably gonna be sometimes when she cheats it. Right, I 321 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 4: don't think she's always gonna have a parent in the car. 322 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: I know I didn't. 323 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: I believe you are in a very different environment. 324 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you could drive it, You could drive it. Like ten. 325 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: The thing is, and I know this. I was just 326 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: taking on one of my buddies whose kid is in 327 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: the same boat that if you get caught driving in 328 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: this period, like you don't get your license until you're 329 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: like twenty. 330 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 4: Oh my god, twenty, it's very quite strict, quite strict. Okay, 331 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 4: all right, so this will be you doing a lot 332 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: of this. Now you have a car that can drive itself. 333 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: Yes, how will you approach that with her? 334 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: H I think we're gonna stick on the streets for now. 335 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: I don't know that we're gonna get well you can 336 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: do that or go freewayish immediately, although she could use that, 337 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: but that doesn't that's not helping her in her well 338 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: heard at a certain pace, pace and and navigational beacons 339 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 3: that is important. I think. Fortunately, the car that you 340 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: and I enjoy is as similar to driving a golf 341 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 3: cart as exists in the automobile world. Correct, Ye, so 342 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: she has got tons of. 343 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: Gold, tons of golf court experience. 344 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this I think I'm hoping that it's any 345 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: like today. There's talk of having when I when I 346 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: pick them up today, of having her make the drive home, 347 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 3: which I. 348 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: Haven't has done the Driver's ED. 349 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so she's got to go. 350 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: Has that happened already? Yep? 351 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 3: And it's all just a coursework now at this point. 352 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: So let's let me get this straight. So you go, coursework. 353 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: Has she done like the driving around with somebody? 354 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: No, that doesn't happen. That doesn't happen until you have 355 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: to be hold on, you have to have your permit 356 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: to be a student driver. 357 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: You're telling me. So it's the opposite out west. So 358 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 4: you'd go through, you do the coursework, then you do 359 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 4: drivers ED, then you get the permit, then you get 360 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 4: the license. Oh no, it's that's the way it works 361 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 4: out there. 362 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 7: It's coursework. You have to pass a test. 363 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, but that's honestly, like, let's be real 364 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 4: honest as as people who have driven a lot and 365 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: have a largely good record of it. The written thing 366 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: is the is almost completely nonsensical. No, like the amount 367 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: of distance I got to stop before a railroad aroundabout 368 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 4: I mean, all of it is just it's the application, 369 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 4: the actually driving application. 370 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: That's the that's the part. I was terrified when I 371 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: moved to this state and they said you have to 372 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: pass a test before we'll give you an Ohio license. 373 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because when I went from Montana, Florida, nothing here, 374 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: you go where you go, Well, wish you all the 375 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: luck in the world. 376 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 7: The same thing in Illinois. 377 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 378 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: So then I come here and it's like, oh, yeah, 379 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 4: you got to pass a written test. 380 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: Come again, I don't. I had no clue. I was terrified. 381 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm not going to be able to drive 382 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 7: full on and like to pass the test, like you've 383 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 7: got to get like forty six forty seven out of fifty, 384 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 7: which you have to get an Acryan scream in the 385 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 7: in the game Grand Scheme of Things. You're like, I 386 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 7: can do that, Like, come on, it's not that difficult. 387 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 7: Then you're like, there's no room for air if I 388 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 7: screw something up and have a mind freeze one hundred percent. 389 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: Do you think if we the three of us, went 390 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 3: and took that test without doing any studying for whatsoever. Yeah, 391 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: the likelihood of us getting a ninety percent on knowing 392 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: every road sign and this that, I don't think it 393 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: would be very high. 394 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 4: Well, I did it, so it wasn't that hard, but 395 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 4: I was nervous going into it. Yeah, that that that 396 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 4: would be the case. I think out of fifty, I 397 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 4: got like forty seven or forty. 398 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was like you get in your own head, 399 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: but you start thinking like, oh my god, what if 400 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 2: I don't remember what I did in driver's head? 401 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 4: Yeah when I was fourteen, Yeah, I remember this Montana. 402 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 4: We had drivers ed at fourteen, But I want to say, 403 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 4: at twelve you could drive farm vehicles, like on the roads, 404 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 4: which it feels like that would be inverted, but instead 405 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 4: that's the way that it was. 406 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: So many kids needed to help with the agricultural stuff. 407 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: That's how it went. 408 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 4: So I think it's odd to me I should I 409 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 4: would rather her written examination then driver's ed on the 410 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 4: roads with a professional driver who's got like the side 411 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 4: break and all of that, before hopping in with mom 412 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: and dad and driving boots and you guys around. 413 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 7: I'm more intrigued about the fact that. 414 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: We're and yet that's your reality. 415 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 7: We're six months away from a sweet sixteen party that's 416 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 7: gonna be. 417 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: Oh you're gonna you're gonna get you this as these. 418 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 3: I think she's had a bot mitzvah. 419 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: But I think, don't they stack another one? 420 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: I know you don't. Oh yeah, it's a sweet sixte 421 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no. 422 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I think Sweet sixteen is a big deal. 423 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 4: It's a big deal, ok you guys, very big deal. 424 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 4: Luckily for me with the boys, there will be none 425 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 4: of that. No, no, I don't have to worry about any. 426 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: Of those things. 427 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 4: Dustin Hopkins names AFC Special Teams Player of the Week 428 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 4: and very much so. Converted four field goals, including the 429 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 4: game winner in the game on Sunday. It's his fifth 430 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 4: career Special Teams Player of the Week award, three in 431 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 4: the AFC, two in the OR three in the NFC, 432 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 4: two in the AFC, twelve or fourteen on field goals 433 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 4: all of the pats. It's so nice having him and 434 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 4: just being like nothing. 435 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: To worry about. 436 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 4: Why he's so wonderful bomb or down the middle. Yes, 437 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 4: that's the way that that goes. So in terms of 438 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 4: today's program, you will hear from Deshaun Watson coming up 439 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 4: at the two o'clock hour. Coach will be at the 440 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 4: podium around one forty five ish and one forty ish. 441 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 3: Okay, we will. 442 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 7: Early today on everything right, very good. 443 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 4: We will go around the league coming up next. We're 444 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 4: off and running on a first Friday. 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There was a time where he was about 457 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: as dominant as could be. It's just been a lot. 458 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: I mean for a long time. He was the NFL's 459 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: leader in receiving yards per game, like in a career. Yeah, 460 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: he was elite. AJ Brown loves him apparently, a J. 461 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 3: Brown like just wants him to be there. That's why 462 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: it's just happening. 463 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: Really Like he just wants like the whatever. 464 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he wants them. 465 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: Well, he did go to Tennessee, didn't he? Julio played 466 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: in Tennessee, right. 467 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he went to Tennessee with AJ Brown. Oh, and 468 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: then now AJ Brown is saying, that's right, I forgot 469 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 3: I want him here. 470 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 4: He's so you know, he was such an enormous deal 471 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 4: in Atlanta and then hate. 472 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: When you hear hate when it goes go to Tennessee. 473 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: For uh. 474 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: He was in Tampa with Tom Brady for a second. 475 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just lost lost it. Yeah. 476 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 4: But it's always remarkable to me when you think about 477 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 4: like great players on other teams, like the amount of 478 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 4: teams Jerry Rice played for at the end. I mean 479 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 4: he was had a stint in Seattle that I remember. 480 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 3: It was great with the Raiders. 481 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: I mean with Denver. 482 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: He was great with the Raiders. 483 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: He was great with the Raiders. 484 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was on there wasn't on their team 485 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 4: that got to the Super Bowl with Tim Brown. Him 486 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,479 Speaker 4: and Tim Brown very very effective with them. And then 487 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 4: I think he ended up team that lost to Tampa. 488 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 489 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 3: Brad Johnson, Oh god, God, we're doing a monks strap. 490 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: Oh it's first Friday. It's a Wednesday. He's gonna enjoy himself. 491 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: It's a Wednesday. 492 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 2: By the way, is this the last good day? Are 493 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: we willing to say that. 494 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 7: Next Wednesday, we're pushing seventy. 495 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: Come on, Nope, let's go. So we got this one 496 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: in next week. There's another they like. 497 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 7: Because tomorrow it is supposed to rain again in the 498 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 7: next four days. 499 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm worried that I'm going to lose my fall 500 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: to rain. It feels like we've had like two weeks 501 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: of rain. 502 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's supposed to We're supposed to have three 503 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 7: or four days next week where we're good in the 504 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 7: upper sixties, pushing seventy. 505 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: That's a win for sure. Jalen Ramsey returns to camp 506 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: in Miami after suffering that knee injury all the way 507 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: back in camp, so he will return for them today. 508 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: This was interesting. 509 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 4: The agenda for Tuesdays league meetings including a proposal to 510 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 4: ban in person interviews with coaching candidates employed by other 511 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 4: teams until after the divisional round. The NFL announced the 512 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 4: proposal has been approved on Tuesday. Coaches who are unemployed 513 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 4: or at the college level can be interviewed at any time, 514 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 4: so that will help there. The most interesting thing that 515 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 4: I thought came out of this was the trying to 516 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 4: find a universal service to play on. So this is 517 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 4: something the players have talked about a lot with the 518 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 4: grass or the turf. And one of the things that 519 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 4: they that they are one of the focuses as we've seen, 520 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 4: is then they talked about this at the at the 521 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 4: league meetings, was how do we get one surface so 522 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 4: the players can prepare for one surface no matter where 523 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 4: they play. 524 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 3: Well, the answer that's gonna be grass. 525 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 4: Well, the answer that, but can it be? Like are 526 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 4: some of these domes built to do it? 527 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 3: Anybody can do it. 528 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 4: I know you can do it. It's a great cost 529 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 4: Real Madrid. I've shown you that video what they're doing, 530 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 4: so you can do it. These teams make a lot 531 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 4: of money they ought to be able to. But I'm wondering, 532 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 4: Like I'm thinking of the Superdome, for example, which is 533 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 4: a building that's built in the eighties, Like can that building? 534 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 4: Can you grow grass in there? I'm not talking about 535 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 4: the lighting. You can do the lighting. I mean the 536 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 4: haslms do it down in at the Crew Stadium that 537 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 4: they play it down there where they have there's the 538 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 4: way that they built it. There's not sunlight on the 539 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 4: grass all the time, so they have grow lamps yep, 540 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 4: that grow So you can do it that way. I 541 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 4: just don't know, Like in a place like the Superdome, 542 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 4: I don't know how that's done. 543 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 3: And the league bakes enough money that the league should 544 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: can rutch right now, the question be in New Orleans, 545 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 3: how long are they staying in that building anyway? I 546 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: mean that building has been there for a great many years. 547 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: That building has I would say that born on date 548 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 4: on the Superdome is the late seventies, seventies. 549 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that feels right. Probably run a similar time 550 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 3: to like the Pontiac's Silver Dome. It's really rich dome, 551 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: the Astrodome, for sure, it's of those. It's of that ilk. 552 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: It's amazing that it's still. 553 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: Used, given its history and everything that's happened in that building. Yes, stupefying. 554 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 7: Griff says, nineteen seventy five for the Super seventy five. Yeah, 555 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 7: before I was born, same all of us. 556 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 4: My god, Really that is wild. That's that's a remarkable thing. 557 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 4: So you're coming up on fifty years of the Superdome, 558 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 4: fifty years in a in an indoor facility. 559 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: Fifty years is something that isn't regally or Fenway is wild? Yeah, 560 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 2: is impossible. 561 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 3: What do you got, slag swag? 562 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 2: What do you say, give it to me? 563 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: Said just me and my buddy Oliver. People's same. Yeah, 564 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: I know that's what I roll with. Unbelievable, And then 565 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 3: he tagged it with no problem. 566 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: Ah, that's good. 567 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the problem there is, though, is the only 568 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 4: way that a stadium is going to get built is 569 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 4: if the if the Benson family pays for it. There's 570 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 4: not gonna be any public money for a new Saints stadium. 571 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 3: No, none. 572 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 7: Well, you mentioned the whole turf grass discussion. I mean 573 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 7: there was the stuff coming out yesterday that so FI, 574 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 7: I guess, is not going to be a site for 575 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 7: the World Cup, And. 576 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: Is that because of the turf. 577 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: They don't want it. They don't want it. 578 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 7: Rocky refuses to adjust or change things up to the 579 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 7: level that they want, so they're not. So Fis reportedly 580 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 7: is not going to be a host for World Cup. 581 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 2: Well that's fine. It'd be better in the Rose Bull anyway. 582 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 7: That's what immediately everybody says. 583 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, because you get the I mean Rose Bulls a 584 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 4: much better venue than so Far for a for that 585 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 4: type of thing, for the World Cup. 586 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably for anything for football. 587 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 3: Too, No, yes, yeah, stadium football, it's pretty. 588 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: Rose Bulls, Rose Bulls. As if God said here's where 589 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: you should play football. 590 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: That's what I think. So if I was great for WrestleMania, 591 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: i'd go there again, gladly. 592 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: That's not a football game. 593 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 3: Sweet Now you said for anything you said or. 594 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 4: Any well, that's true, that's true anything. Yeah, Okay, WrestleMania 595 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 4: the US sweat. 596 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 3: Supposedly electric there at SOFI Stadium. 597 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that she is. But anyway, yeah, I 598 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: think that's Bears watching. 599 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 4: Like, what does that look like is if they try 600 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 4: to if you try to have grass everywhere, because Goodell 601 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: isn't ready even to admit that grass is safer. 602 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I feel like science has shown that 603 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 3: on some level. So with the with the coach interview thing, yeah, 604 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 3: this is what I don't understand. They can ban in 605 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: person interviews with coaching cans employed by other teams until 606 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: after the divisional round. What if you're not in the playoffs. 607 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 3: If you're not that how many coaching cans are going 608 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 3: to interviewed off teams that aren't in the playoffs. But 609 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: if you're a candidate on a team that isn't in 610 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 3: the playoffs, you should be able to be interviewed as 611 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 3: soon as your season ends, of course, and maybe that's 612 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 3: maybe that is the wording. But and if you're in 613 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: the playoffs, you can't be interviewed till your season's over. 614 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 3: You've put too much time in too many hours. Too 615 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 3: many people depend on you being one hundred percent locked 616 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: in to go have a coaching interview. That's day the 617 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 3: week of thefc CHAN game. There's an easy fix to 618 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: all of this, insane. 619 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: It's an easy fix. No, no coaching hires until after 620 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. 621 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,479 Speaker 3: I don't mind unless but no period period because then 622 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 3: that wouldn't be But the team's no in the hiring coaches. 623 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 3: That's full stop, though half fine with it. 624 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 4: When that's done the league year in terms of hiring 625 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 4: takes place, then now all that can happen behind closed doors, 626 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 4: and I'm there will be wink wink deals. 627 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: Left and right. I understand it. 628 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 4: It's the same problem that happens in college football, which 629 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 4: is why they added this transfer window, because coaches were 630 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 4: interviewing for jobs while their season was still going on. 631 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 3: Can't have it, No, I can't have it. I'm with you. 632 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 3: I think the notion that somebody doesn't interview at any 633 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 3: point in the playoffs when they're still playing is crazy. 634 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 3: You know, much time it would take to prep for 635 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 3: a coaching interview to try to become a head coach 636 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 3: in the NFL. The energy, the time, the focus, the dedication. 637 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: You got a game. 638 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, just wait this way, everybody wait. 639 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 7: The proposal prohibits clubs from conducting in person head coach 640 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 7: interviews with candidates who are employed by other NFL clubs 641 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 7: until after the conclusion of all divisional playoff games. 642 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 4: Any well, that's a start, but I think even just 643 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 4: push it further because people always want to hire the 644 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 4: Super Bowl coordinators. So just push it all back until 645 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 4: after that, and then then you're safe. That's that's probably 646 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 4: the way that That's that's the only way to make 647 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 4: it totally right. 648 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: All right, what do we got here? Oh yeah, coming 649 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: up next, we got to show Oh. 650 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 7: No, we got coach coach Sir Murray activated off the 651 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 7: pup list. 652 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: Wow, that's surprising me. I can't. 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Their doctor Z 672 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 4: one more I. 673 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: Do for the Browns today, not practicing quarterback Deshaun Watson 674 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: along with Anthony Walker Junior due to a concussion, Kareem 675 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: Hunt thigh, Harrison Bryant hip and Greg Newsome hamstring. But 676 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: we got great news. We have thumbs up yesterday too. 677 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: I think he was top of the food chain. Yeah, 678 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: I think he's good. 679 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: He had he had it wrapped in here. 680 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 4: But yeah, top, very very top, big l l as 681 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 4: big as gets So yeah, the look. 682 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: On man, it's on on Watson. I guess we just 683 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: all we're all in the same boat together here. 684 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 3: You just out, we're waiting out. We don't, like I said, 685 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 3: we don't have any more information. Perhaps we get more 686 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 3: light shed on it by Kevin Stefanski when he goes 687 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 3: to the podium. Uh soon, But I really think for 688 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 3: this team, you know, there is still optimism that it 689 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 3: will be this week, but you got it. Until he 690 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: gets out on the practice field, you got to just 691 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 3: completely prepare, like it's PJ Walker again, and you wonder, 692 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 3: you know, what what point you have this one then Seattle, 693 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 3: Seattle's I mean. 694 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 4: You're talking almost ir by the time, this is what 695 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 4: could have been ir Yeah. 696 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 3: Four weeks, which would have been Ravens bye week, Ravens niners. 697 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: If he misses this one, you could have had an 698 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 3: ir stint and then this would have been much less complicated, 699 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: would have. 700 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: Been less complicated from a perspect from the person. 701 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: Nobody, nobody, nobody, every thought he's playing against the Ravens. 702 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 3: That's what's wild, and I think that's what gives people 703 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: the hardest time to get wrap their heads around this, 704 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 3: is that everybody in this organization went to sleep on 705 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 3: Saturday night prior to the Baltimore Ravens game, expecting to 706 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: wake up Sunday morning and have Deshaun Watson play quarterback 707 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: for the team, missing no games, and instead he's missed 708 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 3: two with a bye week in between. And it's still 709 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 3: not practicing. 710 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: Now. 711 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 3: We'll find out from Kevin Sefanski if he's thrown it 712 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 3: all this week. I'm sure that there have been some 713 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 3: upgrades in his regimen and that he is closer than ever, 714 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 3: And there is a lot of optimism still despite the 715 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: fact I'm not practicing today, there are still his optimism 716 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: that he will play this week. Will he We will 717 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: find out. 718 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's and you know, there's we've heard all 719 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 4: this stuff about bruises and strains and micro tears. They 720 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 4: all mean the same thing. That's right, It's all the 721 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 4: same thing. 722 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: There is some there's very variation to it, but those 723 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: things are all. 724 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 4: The same things, right, That's right as I understand it. 725 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, I guess. I mean the good news is 726 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 4: you saw the difference. Well, well, PJ would obviously have 727 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 4: some things he'd like to have back in the game 728 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 4: on Sunday. You see the difference where somebody is prepared 729 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 4: to play on Sunday in an NFL game versus the 730 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 4: week before the bye week, where you saw someone who 731 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 4: very obviously was not. And that isn't a shot at 732 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 4: DTR it's just the fact if he didn't know he 733 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 4: was going to start until eleven o'clock on a Sunday 734 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 4: in an NFL game, that's right, So there was no 735 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 4: way that he was going to be ready for that. 736 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 4: So now PJ will have all of last week and 737 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 4: and potentially all of this week with the Shawn practicing today, 738 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 4: potentially all of this week to be ready to play 739 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 4: on Sunday should his number as be called, and quite honestly, 740 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 4: against this Colts team. I hate to go down this road, 741 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 4: but you really don't. You shouldn't need no a plus 742 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 4: level quarterback, No no. But what you need is cleanliness. 743 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 4: You need a game that is clean, that is devoid 744 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 4: of giveaways. 745 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: You are three and two without doing that. 746 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 3: Yet, well, I still I don't like to bet on outliers, don't. 747 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: I don't like to be different. 748 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 3: I'd like it to be different. We are thirty first 749 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: in the NFL and turnover differential at negative eight. That's 750 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 3: got to get cleaned up. Now. This is a colts 751 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 3: team that your defense absolutely can suffocate. This is a 752 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: but this is the NFL. 753 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: Man. 754 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 3: You can't take anybody or anything for granted, and if 755 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 3: you do, you'll get humbled real real quick. 756 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 4: Well we're we are also you know over the last 757 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 4: I mean you had those stats on us coming off 758 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 4: of wins and all of that stuff. Yes, we do 759 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 4: not have we have don't have the good stuff in 760 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 4: the bank to be acting like anything is entitled correct. 761 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 4: So that's that's not the way that's going to be. 762 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 3: No, No, you've got That's why you need to be 763 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 3: at your best every weekend. That's why it's so important 764 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: this one in particular. Number one, to shake that stigma 765 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 3: of not being able to follow up a win with 766 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 3: a win. And number two, give yourself a two game 767 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 3: cushion over five hundred. You're gonna have to end this 768 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 3: season at a minimum to make the playoffs one game 769 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: over five hundred. Most likely, it's gonna have to be 770 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 3: three games over five hundred. I think it's nine. Maybe 771 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 3: there are scenarios where you get in at nine and 772 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 3: eight because this conference is gonna be itself up so much, 773 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 3: but it's likely right that you're gonna have to be 774 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 3: in this one. It's likely that you're gonna have to 775 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: be ten and seven. Yeah, so this is an important 776 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 3: game to win. 777 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 778 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 4: When you're sitting at three and two and you're looking 779 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 4: at the next three of Indie, Seattle, Arizona, you need 780 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 4: to win two out of the three. Yes, and there's 781 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 4: a reason want to win all three for sure, but 782 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 4: the minimum requirement is two out of or three. Then 783 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 4: you're sitting at five and three through the first eight 784 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 4: games of the season, and now you're on that pace 785 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 4: for that ten win mark, which. 786 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 787 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 4: I think that's the minimum requirement of what it's going 788 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 4: to need. What was the number last year for me? Oh, 789 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 4: let's go to the podium, here's coach to. 790 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 6: Fans have the guys to do it offensively. You know, 791 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 6: I think Gardner Minshew's a winners. We've all seen it. 792 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 6: He's gone in there in one football games. He's done 793 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 6: it for this team. He's a challenge to defend. He 794 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 6: can make every throws, he can scramble, and then they 795 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 6: have a very good running game, playmakers on the outside, 796 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 6: big receivers on the outside, a good offensive line, and 797 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 6: then return game is really good. So special teams have 798 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 6: to be on point as well. Big challenge with a 799 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 6: bunch of the guys that they have so excited about 800 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 6: the opportunity that we get to go on the road 801 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 6: and try to find a way to win. Deshaun's not 802 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 6: going to practice today. He's like I told you guys, 803 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 6: he's making progress and we'll continue to treat that day 804 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 6: to day. And with that, I'll take any questions you. 805 00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 8: Ruling out and I think correct, broke in sense the injury, Yes, correct, 806 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 8: I'm just gonna say he's making progress. 807 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 5: Four Sunday, he probout Sunday. If your business as. 808 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll deal with you know, day to day. 809 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 6: So we'll we'll update you guys every single day. 810 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 7: Today that it was up to the medical crew whether 811 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 7: he would go out and. 812 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 8: Practice day at him. 813 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: But how is that when you said though that he is. 814 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 9: Medically cleared to play but not punctally ready, So how 815 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 9: is it? What is a medical staff uh doing to sway. 816 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 7: Out of opinion. 817 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 5: Whatever. 818 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would just tell you, Jeff, uh, between DeShawn, 819 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 6: our medical team, everybody's on the same page. Understand that 820 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 6: we're working through this injury. Like I've told you before. 821 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 6: You know, we'll continue to to be careful and safe 822 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 6: and make sure that when he's ready to do his 823 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 6: job and he has all of his uh a bi 824 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 6: in terms of being able to throw the football, when 825 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 6: he's ready for that, we'll have him back back out 826 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 6: there practice. But we're going to continue to treat that 827 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 6: thing day to day. 828 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 10: I mean, if you work with quarterbacks over the years, 829 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 10: have you had anybody that's had a rotator cuff injury? 830 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 3: I don't remember. Uh. 831 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 6: You know, I certainly don't have a medical degree, so 832 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 6: I can't tell you specifics on injuries and guys that 833 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 6: I've had over the past. But you know, Deshaun's a warrior. 834 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:27,959 Speaker 6: He's fighting throat. 835 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 8: It could be a day, it could be today, tomorrow, 836 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 8: weeks from now. 837 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 5: He doesn't know. 838 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 8: So how difficult is that to kind of manage as 839 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 8: a coach when you're trying to. 840 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 3: Get it reader. 841 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 6: That's part of football, part part of our jobs. You 842 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 6: have to be ready to to deal with uncertainty. That's 843 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 6: that's the NFL. 844 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 11: You start if if Deshaun can, yes, how do you 845 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 11: help PJ this week? 846 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 12: You know, obviously he got the reps last week, got 847 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 12: to start, but you know, how what do you do 848 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 12: to maybe help him get. 849 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 10: Even more comfortable this week? 850 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 6: Well, he'll get all the reps today, so he has 851 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 6: to do what all of our backups have to do. 852 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 6: You have to be ready to play. And I think 853 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 6: we've all seen it over the course of this season. 854 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 6: It can go really up and down our roster and 855 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 6: you rely on your backups when the starter can't go. 856 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 6: And I think that's what PJ will be ready to 857 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 6: do if called upon. 858 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:24,919 Speaker 9: So much better this year. 859 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think as you can imagine, it's multifaceted when 860 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 6: you talk about that. Obviously it's playing our style of defense. 861 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 6: It's some of the guys that we've brought in. Dalvin 862 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 6: comes to mind as a really good run defender, obviously 863 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 6: Zi and Obo. But to play any good defense, good offense, 864 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 6: run defense, run offense, you have to have eleven guys 865 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 6: in the same page doing their job. 866 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 2: And I think that's what you see. 867 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 9: What does Dalvin do that just change the complexity upfront. 868 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 5: For you guys. 869 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 6: He's very disruptive and he's a very large man, and 870 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 6: when that large man is disruptive, it's good for our defense. 871 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 9: How do you think Denzel is playing this year compared 872 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 9: to the last three years? 873 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think Yeah. 874 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,959 Speaker 6: I mean, obviously we know Denzel is a good player. 875 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 6: I'm not going to compare him the past year's I 876 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 6: tell you right this minute, and the games that we've played, 877 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 6: all five of them, and he's come to compete. We've 878 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 6: put him in some tough spots. He's he's responded every 879 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 6: single time. I think he's tackling well, playing the ball well, 880 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 6: he's having you know, he's playing at a high level. 881 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 13: I just feel that Jonathan Taylor goes back into his 882 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 13: regular spot this week. 883 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 6: You know, we're ready for that if that's what it is. 884 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 6: I think they have multiple guys mosses. I mean that there, 885 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 6: they can put a bunch of guys in there. Have 886 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 6: a ton of respect for Jonathan Taylor, and we do 887 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 6: anticipate that his workload increases as the games go on here, 888 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 6: but they have multiple guys that can hurt you at 889 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 6: the ball in their hands. 890 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 12: Going to be the games this DTR moved back to 891 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 12: the number two quarterback or did you make that decision 892 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 12: to elevate PJ. 893 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 9: Into that rule. 894 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not making many decisions past Wednesday. So we'll see. 895 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 5: Guys that are on practicing. 896 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 8: Do you expect those guys to be ready to go 897 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 8: some big Kareem. 898 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 6: Greg, They're they're all it's all different. We'll see how 899 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 6: each day goes. I think it's important with with all 900 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 6: their injuries, they're all in different places and we'll see 901 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 6: how they do. 902 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 12: That. 903 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 9: Sean does get back, I don't try to keep a 904 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 9: leash on him from running as much as he how 905 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 9: he howle them? 906 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 6: Well, just be smart. I mean that's what we try 907 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 6: to do every game with the players that you have. 908 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 6: Be smart about what you ask him to do. 909 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 10: What lessons have you learned about, you know, just this 910 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 10: whole injury and just the messaging around it and everything 911 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 10: that's that's been involved with it. 912 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, and I understand the question, Mary Kay. 913 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 6: I think you really just have to each day go 914 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 6: with the information you have and and support our guys 915 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 6: and and we'll continue to do that. This is a 916 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 6: I've said it before, he's trying very badly to get back, 917 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 6: and when he's ready to get back, he'll be out there. 918 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 11: Glad that sorry. 919 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 2: You see a lot of growth from the wandering are 920 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 2: changing him going from back up to his. 921 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 7: Mouth full time start. 922 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 5: Yeah. 923 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 6: I mean, like a lot of young players, he can 924 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 6: he's getting better. Not to say that it's it's perfect, 925 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 6: and it's not going to be perfect, but I think 926 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 6: he's getting better. I think he understands the amount of 927 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 6: work that goes into a week to get ready to 928 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 6: prepare for some of these edge rushers, and this week 929 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 6: is no different. I mean, they have really good edge rushers, 930 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 6: so you have to be put in the work and 931 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 6: I think he's continuing to learn how to do that 932 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 6: as a young player. 933 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 7: From your past. 934 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 2: I mean, he's so big. 935 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 6: There's there's been very few guys we had. Brian McKinney 936 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 6: at the Vikings was a left tackle. You know, we 937 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 6: talked a lot about different comps when he was coming out. 938 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 6: You know, certainly when you have a player that side, 939 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 6: it makes life harder to get to the quarterback for 940 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,280 Speaker 6: those ends, it's just a bigger body to go around 941 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 6: or through the outside. 942 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,959 Speaker 9: Finzel May overshadow the way that Enderson is playing. 943 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 2: If you look at some of those numbers in their 944 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 2: aw guitar. 945 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 9: Second, what level is he at? 946 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 2: It was just his second season, you know. I think. 947 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 6: MJ's a guy that you know, continues to get better 948 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 6: because he's young player, but has always had the right mindset. 949 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 6: I mean from day one when he stepped on foot 950 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 6: on campus, he had the right mindset and playing that position, 951 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 6: you better have that mindset. So he plays physical. He 952 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 6: loves the challenge, so excited for where he is. And 953 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 6: you know, I think MJ would tell you, I think 954 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 6: coach Lynch would tell you. I think Coach Schwartz would 955 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 6: tell you he will continue to get better. The twenty 956 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 6: yard round that Marquise could win they had in the 957 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 6: in the game, Could he play the same exact role 958 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 6: that Elijah Moore does for you. 959 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 5: Those plays? 960 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I've our case is a very versatile football player. 961 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 6: Will always explore ways to involve him in the run 962 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 6: in the past, but it really is based on game 963 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 6: plan every week in terms of who does what best. 964 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 8: Taylor, what's allowed the Coast to run it as well 965 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 8: as they have, I mean, the good games against Baltimore and. 966 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 6: Tennessee Yeah, good run scheme with what coach Stikeen brought 967 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 6: with him from Philly, really good run scheme. I think, 968 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 6: a good offensive line, physical, They have a good RPO package. Again, 969 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 6: that's stuff that coach Stikeen's done over his career. So 970 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 6: it makes makes life hard on the defense. You really 971 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 6: have to have a plan when you're defending this type 972 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:37,919 Speaker 6: of attack. 973 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 5: To see those rpostion we do. 974 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, they run their offense. He's he's done that over 975 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 6: the course of his career. He's done a nice show. 976 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 10: About the doing. Jerome and Cream's. 977 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that both continue to give us good 978 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 6: moments and good runs. I mean, Kareem had a couple 979 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 6: that were not pretty, not sexy, but he put his 980 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 6: foot in the ground and put his nose down and 981 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 6: the guy's got pushed and four yards later, you know 982 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 6: it's second and six, and so those were some hard 983 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 6: yards and that's kind of the game. Jerome the same. 984 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 6: And then Jerome a couple of times, whether it was 985 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 6: some trap schemes, some perimeter schemes, he got on the 986 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 6: move and you make one guy miss. We know Jerome 987 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 6: has some breakaway speed. So I think they complement each 988 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 6: other well. We just have to continue and we will 989 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 6: to give those guys the run types the amount of 990 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 6: runs that makes them both hard to handle. Pulse or 991 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 6: the talent of this team, Can you give us an 992 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 6: idea how they can maybe stabilize, not ride too high. 993 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 5: From a big win or fall too low from a 994 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 5: big loss. 995 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 6: There, Yeah, we talk about that. You know, we don't 996 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 6: ride the roller coaster. You don't take a win with it. 997 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 6: You don't take a loss with you win, loser, draw. 998 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 6: We want to be the same team on Wednesday that's 999 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 6: focused on the work and that's the mentality we have. 1000 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 6: That's the group of people that we have. So this 1001 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 6: Wednesday practice that I'm about to be late for is 1002 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 6: the most important practice of our season. One more sports. 1003 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 5: Warned up to the Tennessee game. 1004 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 7: You know, it's got a great kinds of love. 1005 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 13: And came to Baltimore games, so it'll be different this 1006 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 13: time around, getting a lot of national cub Yeah. 1007 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 6: You know, I tune it out. We talk about what's 1008 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 6: important in this profession is what goes on in this building. 1009 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 6: You know, obviously we're having success defensively, and we're having 1010 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 6: success because we're playing sound defense. It's not it's there's 1011 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 6: no magic trick to playing good hard defense, and I 1012 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 6: think it's a combination of our guys playing the scheme 1013 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 6: and just playing with relentless effort that will never change. 1014 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,399 Speaker 6: Those are the type of things that we're telling our guys. 1015 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 7: Okay, thank you, guys. 1016 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 2: I appreciate it all Right. 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Learn 1027 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 4: more at Rumky dot com if you're just joining us 1028 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 4: to Shaun Watson will now practice today, nor will tight 1029 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 4: end Harrison Bryant running back, Kareem Hunt cornerback, Greg Newsom 1030 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 4: and linebacker Anthony Walker Junior. Deshaun Watson did address the 1031 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 4: media earlier today. We will have that for you coming 1032 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 4: up in about a half hour from now. We just 1033 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 4: did hear from coach Tfanski, who is continuing with the 1034 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,919 Speaker 4: company line of we will take it a day by day. 1035 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,919 Speaker 4: That's kind of where we're all at with this thing, 1036 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 4: and it'll really be I mean, the simple, straightforward way 1037 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 4: to think of this guy's for your guys' perspective is 1038 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson will play when he feels like he can, 1039 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 4: and that's where you're at, and so you're waiting on 1040 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 4: that and when he's ready, he'll go. It's a guy 1041 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 4: historically who you go back to his time in Houston, 1042 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 4: played with very most tumultuous injuries and drove to Jacksonville 1043 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 4: to play a game. So there is nothing in his 1044 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,399 Speaker 4: past that would lead you to believe that he would 1045 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 4: not play if he thought that it was possible. So 1046 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 4: that's where you're at with him at this point. In 1047 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 4: the meantime, you get to play the Indianapolis Colts on Sunday. 1048 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 4: In terms of the Colts, Saint Stike in your court, 1049 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,399 Speaker 4: Shane Stike, and rather your head coach. They are three 1050 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 4: and three. Hard to believe, but they are first year 1051 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,919 Speaker 4: head coach after leading the Eagles offenses offensive coordinator last year. 1052 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 4: The Browns lead the all time series eighteen to seventeen, 1053 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 4: one and three in the last four. We last won 1054 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty here thirty two to twenty three. 1055 00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 2: The last time. 1056 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 4: The last time Xtual played rather out was against Jacksonville 1057 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 4: thirty seven to twenty. That one wasn't as close as 1058 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 4: that would lead you to believe. Their offense is ranked 1059 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,760 Speaker 4: tenth overall in the league. Their defense is twenty sixth. 1060 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 4: For more on the breakdown, we turn to Doc to Z. 1061 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 3: By the way, Shane Steichen was the Cleveland Brown's quality 1062 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 3: control slash quarterbacks coach in twenty thirteen under Rob Chudzinski. 1063 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 3: Now he is the head coach of the Indianapolis coach. 1064 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,720 Speaker 2: Who's your coordinator on that team? Thirteen? 1065 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 3: Norv? 1066 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 4: That was Norv Norval baby Oh, because chud worked for 1067 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 4: Norv in Dallas at some point when I don't remember what, But. 1068 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 2: So Norv was the OC in thirteen. Wow, So you 1069 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 2: went Norv Kyle as OC's that's right, like the coordinator 1070 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 2: of the eighties and nineties and I'm sorry nineties and 1071 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 2: then like the the play caller, although Mike is giving 1072 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,320 Speaker 2: him a run for his money now. 1073 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 3: In Kyle who is also here that same year, twenty fourteen. 1074 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 3: Good grief, good all right? Who they are offensively will 1075 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 3: start with them on offense, Zach Moss, Zach random Moss 1076 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 3: actually cousin of Santana and Sinerese Moss uh four hundred 1077 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 3: and sixty six yards rushing that folks is second in 1078 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,959 Speaker 3: the NFL. He is having a phenomenal season for them. 1079 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 3: But they remember they just gave Jonathan Taylor three years 1080 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,839 Speaker 3: forty two million, So what are they doing there? Well, 1081 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 3: so far it's still been Zach Moss and the two 1082 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,959 Speaker 3: games Taylor's been back, Moss two hundred and fifty four 1083 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 3: total yards, thirty eight touches, three touchdowns. In the two 1084 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 3: games of Taylor's been back, twenty touches, ninety nine total yards, 1085 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 3: no touchdowns. Jonathan Taylor, of course, in twenty twenty one, 1086 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,399 Speaker 3: was the best running back in the NFL ofver eighteen 1087 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 3: hundred yards eighteen touchdowns, led the league that year in 1088 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 3: rushing yards, rushing, touchdown scrimmage, yard scrimmage touchdowns, had ten 1089 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 3: one hundred yard games. They reward him with the big contract. 1090 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 3: We haven't seen it. Maybe this is the week where 1091 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 3: they put him back in because in the last two 1092 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 3: weeks Zach Moss has received two snaps for every one 1093 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 3: of his and by the way, Zach Moss has been 1094 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 3: e laite. Look at this graphic way to go. That's 1095 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 3: a that looks like a feeling Ebenhack picture if I 1096 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 3: have If I have that right, that's what it looks 1097 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 3: like to me. 1098 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's strong. Do you think? Yeah? I like it? 1099 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there it is. I like that. I guess 1100 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 3: played at Utah he did Jacksonville last week didn't do 1101 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 3: much seven carries twenty one yards, but both of the 1102 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 3: backs are very involved in the passing game. Last week, 1103 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 3: Zach Moss in that one six catches for thirty eight, 1104 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,919 Speaker 3: Taylor five for forty six. Their quarterback is, of course, 1105 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,320 Speaker 3: Gardner Minshew one in one. This year, he is completing 1106 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 3: sixty five percent of his passes eight hundred and eighty 1107 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 3: two yards, three touchdowns, three picks, all of which came 1108 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 3: last week. That was a career high three interceptions in 1109 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 3: the loss to the Jags. In eighty one rating, he 1110 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 3: does not run as six rushes for eight yards on 1111 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 3: the season. He is three and eleven as a starter 1112 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,879 Speaker 3: in his last fourteen games. They'll say that again, three 1113 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,359 Speaker 3: and eleven as he started in last fourteen games. He's 1114 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 3: got to get the ball out quick. They are throwing 1115 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 3: short passes career low. Five point eight air yards per 1116 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 3: attempt seven point one is his career average. And minshew, 1117 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 3: you look at it. You make him hold the football. 1118 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,240 Speaker 3: Turnover worthy plays, baby, that's what comes your way. Fifty 1119 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:08,840 Speaker 3: four percent completion when he has to hold it for 1120 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 3: more than two point five seconds, seventy nine rating, two 1121 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 3: interceptions when he gets it out quick, seventy two percent 1122 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 3: completions eighty two rating, and doesn't have as many turnover 1123 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 3: worthy plays. Obviously, with every quarterback you want to get 1124 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 3: him pressure. But listen to this breakdown I discovered in 1125 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 3: my preparations today. 1126 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 2: Give it to me. 1127 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,839 Speaker 3: He has thrown thirty eight passes of more than ten 1128 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 3: yards in the air. 1129 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 2: That's it. 1130 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 3: He's thrown ninety nine or fewer yards in the air, 1131 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 3: including behind the line of scrimmage on the passes of 1132 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,839 Speaker 3: more than ten yards in the air. And the reason 1133 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 3: why I make this comparison is to give you a 1134 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 3: little context, Here's what brock Perty was on passes of 1135 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 3: ten yards in the air, and then he played us, 1136 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 3: which was tough for him. Seventy two percent fifteen point 1137 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 3: five yards per attempt, one hundred and fifty eight point 1138 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,240 Speaker 3: three rating, which you know is perfect on air yards 1139 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 3: per attempt ten yards over the passes more than ten 1140 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 3: yards in the air, Minshew this year seventeen of thirty eight. 1141 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 3: That's forty five percent, nine point eight yards per attempt, 1142 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 3: one touchdown, three picks, and a terrible rating. On the 1143 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 3: quick game, he's completing eighty one percent, five point six 1144 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 3: yards per attempt, two touchdowns and a one hundred rating. 1145 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 3: He likes to throw it quickly in the middle of 1146 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 3: the field. That's where he is inside of zero to 1147 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 3: nine yards center of the field between the numbers thirty 1148 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,839 Speaker 3: two of thirty seven for two hundred and seventy yards. 1149 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 3: So that's what they're gonna have to keep their eye on. 1150 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 3: Michael Pittman leading receiver forty catches, four hundred and six yards 1151 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 3: and a touchdown. He needs eighty four for three thousand 1152 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 3: in his career. Pittman, of course, big, physical, not fast, 1153 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 3: just ten yards of catch, but he's six ' four 1154 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 3: to two twenty three. They really don't have a vertical 1155 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 3: threat right now. Alec Price would probably be the closest 1156 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 3: thing to it. He did not practice today, but he 1157 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 3: just has eleven for one to forty nine on the season. 1158 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 3: Then they've got Josh Downs, their third rounder, who's coming 1159 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,320 Speaker 3: on strong. He's got second on the team, twenty eight catches, 1160 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy six yards and a touchdown. Last 1161 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 3: week two weeks ago, I'm sorry, had a season nine 1162 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 3: six for ninety seven against Tennessee. Last week, caught his 1163 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,799 Speaker 3: first career touchdown against the Jags, and he's got five 1164 00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 3: or more catch in three the last four. They'll play 1165 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,280 Speaker 3: a bunch of tight ends. Moley Cox, Kylan Grantson's actually 1166 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 3: third on the team and receiving sixteen catches for one 1167 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy yards. That's at not a great offensive line, 1168 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 3: especially if Brain Smith's out. Even if he isn't. Brain 1169 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 3: Smith's not great, Bernard Ryman's not great. The tackles they've got, 1170 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 3: you know, left guard Quentin Nelson's there, Joel Botonio five 1171 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,799 Speaker 3: straight Pro Bowls, and their center Ryan Kelly is a 1172 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,439 Speaker 3: three time Pro bowler. He is elite. So that left 1173 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 3: guard center, that part's good. The right guard right tackle 1174 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 3: side is awful, awful, and the brown should absolutely be 1175 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 3: able to exploit. So that's who they are as an offense. 1176 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 3: And you mentioned kind of some of their rankings there. 1177 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 3: They are the number ten overall offense in terms of 1178 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,719 Speaker 3: yards per game, and then you flip it around defensively, 1179 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 3: they are the number twenty six defense. That's not typically 1180 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,800 Speaker 3: what you think of for the Colts. Three hundred and 1181 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,760 Speaker 3: fifty seven yards per game. They are number nineteen against 1182 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 3: the run, twenty three against the pass. This is a 1183 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 3: team that the Browns absolutely should be able to get after. 1184 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 3: I mean, this defense is not good. They do not 1185 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 3: have a ton of talent, and in fact, right now 1186 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 3: they are so depleted. They're starting two rookies at corner. 1187 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,880 Speaker 3: Juju Brentz their second rounder. He's given up sixty eight 1188 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,760 Speaker 3: percent completion one hundred and two rating, and then Jalen Jones, 1189 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,839 Speaker 3: their seventh rounder, started last week. He's given up seventy 1190 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,280 Speaker 3: five percent completions at a one hundred and thirty six rating. 1191 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 3: On the season, they lost starting quarterback Dallas Flowers after 1192 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 3: Week four. Kenny Moore has been a Pro bowler. That's 1193 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 3: their nickel corner, very good against the run as well. 1194 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 3: The safeties, Rodney Thomas was last year seventh round pick, 1195 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 3: and then Julian Blackman, a third round pick from twenty twenty. 1196 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 3: So they're starting a seventh rounder at safety, a rookie, 1197 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 3: first year second like a guy in his second season, 1198 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 3: seventh round at safety, a seventh rounding rookie at one corner. 1199 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 3: I mean, we got to be able to throw the 1200 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 3: ball on this team. Their line took a big hit, 1201 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,720 Speaker 3: they lost their starting nose tackle. But across the front 1202 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 3: they've got Quitty pay the Forest Buckner who's a two 1203 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 3: time Pro bowler, Tavin Bryan who had a career high 1204 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 3: three seckxs with the Browns last year, and then Samson Ebukam, 1205 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 3: who has been their leading sack getter. He's got four 1206 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 3: so far this season. His career high was only five secks, 1207 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 3: so he's about to maybe set a career high there 1208 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 3: him as well. They go with some waves on the 1209 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,439 Speaker 3: front Linebackers are where they're really good. Shaquill Leonard member 1210 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 3: Darius Leonard, three time Pro bowler, four time All Pro. 1211 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 3: He had. He has four to one hundred and twenty 1212 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 3: plus four one hundred and twenty plus tackle seasons, and 1213 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,720 Speaker 3: then they got Zaire Franklin. This guy's in his sixth season, 1214 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 3: was a seventh round pick in twenty eighteen. He didn't 1215 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,760 Speaker 3: become a starter until last year. One hundred and sixty 1216 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 3: six tackles, which are third in the NFL, set a 1217 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,280 Speaker 3: franchise record from them. So they have two tackling machines 1218 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 3: in Franklin and Leonard in the middle on the second level. 1219 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 3: But that's it. This is not a dominant defense, This 1220 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 3: is not a very good offense. This is a game 1221 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 3: that the Browns absolutely should win. And for PJ. Walker 1222 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 3: spend some time in the Indianapolis organization. If he's the 1223 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,760 Speaker 3: starter going back there, you expect him to do well. 1224 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 3: If it's Deshaun Watson, Watson at Indy has thrown for 1225 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 3: more than three hundred yards in every single game, multiple 1226 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 3: games with three hundred and he had two games with 1227 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 3: three seventy plus and two or more touchdowns in Lucas 1228 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 3: Oil Stadium, so it would be certainly a comfortable place 1229 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 3: for him. But this is out of talented team. Think 1230 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 3: about guys like Stefan Gilmore. He's now gone in Dallas. 1231 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 3: He had Yannick and Gakway last year, who was a 1232 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 3: Pro Bowl alternate. He's gone. They don't get after the 1233 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 3: quarterback very well. They don't defend very well, they don't 1234 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,840 Speaker 3: tackle well. They're not a good defense, and then offensively 1235 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 3: they are not explosive at all. 1236 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 2: It's pretty amazing. They've gotten to three and three. They 1237 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 2: beat Houston week two, then they shock the Ravens at Baltimore. 1238 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 2: Now win at Baltimore twenty two to nineteen. Absolutely bonkers 1239 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,359 Speaker 2: game there the Ram The only reason they're not fourign 1240 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,879 Speaker 2: two is because the Rams came back and beat them 1241 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 2: in Indy. Is that one. 1242 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 4: Then they beat the Titans twenty three to sixteen, and 1243 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 4: then lost to Jacksonville to close this thing out. So 1244 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 4: they have two losses to Jacksonville, a divisional opponent. They've 1245 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 4: already played them twice. Yep, they're done playing Jacksonville and 1246 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 4: we're in week six in the season. They also have 1247 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 4: the news today that Anthony Richardson will miss the remainder 1248 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,439 Speaker 4: of the season. He is having shoulder surgery. They are 1249 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 4: they're in a weird spot as a franchise because when 1250 00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 4: you talk about there's not a whole lot of historical 1251 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,879 Speaker 4: precedent for a rookie quarterback missing his entire rookie season, who, 1252 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 4: by the way, already had injury concerns in college, and 1253 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,359 Speaker 4: then being some bounce back guy. I mean the most 1254 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 4: recently you think of Trey Lance like, it usually doesn't 1255 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 4: go well when that happens. 1256 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 2: Early they are three and three. 1257 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 4: They really need to get to the bottom so that 1258 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 4: they can amplify this roster because as you just went 1259 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 4: over it, there isn't a lot of talent. And then 1260 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 4: they have the most bizarre, one of the most bizarre 1261 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 4: handlings of a of a contract situation we've seen in 1262 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 4: recent years, where it became personal between Jonathan Taylor and ownership, 1263 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 4: and then he decides it's a non injury set out 1264 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 4: four games, they prove that they really don't need him, 1265 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 4: by the play of Zach most they don't need him, 1266 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 4: and then they bring him back, and then they pay him, give. 1267 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 2: An asking and they still Zach Boss still getting the ball. 1268 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 4: They paid him more than the Giants paid Saquon Talking 1269 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 4: about Jonathan Taylor, I don't understand. 1270 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 3: It me either. I don't understand it as well, they. 1271 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 2: Should have traded Jonathan than Taylor. 1272 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 4: Is what they should have done to a team, and 1273 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,560 Speaker 4: and what I know, but they wanted what doesn't make 1274 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 4: any sense. 1275 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 3: I would have rather gotten a third round pick than 1276 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 3: paid him fourteen million year. 1277 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 4: I wouldn't paid him urteen million dollars a year either. 1278 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 4: I think they were probably the only team that was 1279 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 4: going to pay him fourteen million dollars a year, and 1280 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 4: that they yet they did it, and then they don't 1281 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 4: play him. 1282 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 2: Yep. 1283 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's wild. And now you see the report today 1284 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 3: out of Tennessee Derrick Henry's on the block. 1285 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 2: Well, I think I had a Taj Spears. 1286 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 3: I told you, we told you about him. 1287 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 4: Well, and also from the standpoint of like just this 1288 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 4: that you could be Hopkins too, I'm guessing you'll start 1289 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 4: to see a lot of that type of stuff. 1290 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 2: Is it starts to happen. Where for years. 1291 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,800 Speaker 4: The NFL trade deadline was much ado about nothing, that's 1292 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 4: not the case anymore. 1293 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 2: No, you're going to see a lot of movement. Yeah, 1294 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 2: too bad. 1295 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 3: You don't have a light, be gray if you had 1296 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 3: a light and he knew when you're on the air. 1297 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 7: So Halloween night. 1298 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 3: By the way, we're out at B Dub's yesterday. Guys, 1299 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 3: come up. Can't we get it on air or light 1300 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 3: for these guys? 1301 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 7: A you miss that we talked about it on the show. 1302 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 2: I know you want to remind me of the new audience, 1303 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 2: the new audience. 1304 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 7: Twenty four hours late. How about you be better? 1305 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 2: Remember, Gibbe, we walked about it on the show yesterday. 1306 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 3: I was there. I'm referencing it again because it's clear 1307 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,520 Speaker 3: that not only would we benefit from it, you would 1308 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 3: because you're currently the number one. 1309 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 2: You are the number one like Falter Infractor. Yeah, for sure. 1310 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 4: Our people give our p ones are it's fifteen minutes 1311 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 4: at a time. 1312 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:29,920 Speaker 2: Baby, you know that. 1313 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 3: Yes, you know this p one. Maybe he's new to radio. 1314 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 3: Be better? 1315 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,439 Speaker 7: So when we do a twenty seven minute person, I'm 1316 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 7: not quite sure. 1317 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:37,920 Speaker 3: Not great. 1318 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 2: That's not great for the pe ones. They don't love that. 1319 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's a it's a weird spot if you 1320 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 4: think back to everything that worked for them, like all 1321 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 4: of the goodwill that worked to them, from Manning to Luck. 1322 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 4: Since Luck it's fallen off a cliff and they and 1323 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 4: no one's gonna feel sorry for him. 1324 00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 2: Because they had Manning and Luck yep. 1325 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 4: But they were set up for what you thought thought 1326 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 4: was going to be like a Packers run where you 1327 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,400 Speaker 4: go far of Rogers over thirty years. 1328 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 2: That's what it was set up for. 1329 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,479 Speaker 4: But now they've been chasing this quarterback situation, and now 1330 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 4: it's going to be a chase that's very likely going 1331 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 4: to continue. All right, we will attempt actor Doctor Z 1332 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 4: will attempt to guess the spread that is coming up 1333 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 4: next to lessly Cleveland Browns Daily brought you by bally 1334 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 4: Bet sportspending partner. Your Cleveland Browns is Alive in Ohio 1335 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 4: on fifty ESPN. 1336 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet 1337 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 1: now Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN. 1338 01:00:44,320 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 14: Cleveland Brass Fans visit your local Tide Cleaners during the 1339 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 14: month of October for a chance to win tickets to 1340 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 14: an upcoming Browns home game. 1341 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,720 Speaker 4: You'll be automatically entered to win with any purchase. I 1342 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,600 Speaker 4: should also remind you to join Z and Gerard at 1343 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 4: Slim and Chubby's in Strongsville. That is Thursday night, seven 1344 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 4: to eight Kevin Stefanski Show. Elijah Moyre Elijah Moore is 1345 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 4: going to join the crew he'll be signing autographs. 1346 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 2: It's brought to you by bud Light. Easy to Sunday 1347 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,919 Speaker 2: and easy to in Joy. That is a good name 1348 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 2: for a bar. 1349 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:39,840 Speaker 3: Yeah it is. 1350 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,479 Speaker 2: I've never been. I don't know that I've been there, 1351 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 2: but that's. 1352 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 7: They do a fantastic job. There's a reason that place 1353 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 7: is as successful as it is. 1354 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that. I think in Staple that is 1355 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:50,479 Speaker 2: a great, great name. 1356 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,640 Speaker 4: I bet my brother in law, Brent Miller is a 1357 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 4: a as someone who would know that place very very well. 1358 01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 4: He's a big, Strongsviel guy, played for the Ponies back 1359 01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 4: in the day a little bit. 1360 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, here we go. You ready, Yes, what 1361 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 2: is your record? You're like, do you even have one? 1362 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 3: Losing one? 1363 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 2: Losing record? 1364 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 5: One? 1365 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 2: Five and one? All right, here we go. 1366 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 4: Let's start with Thursday night. We are looking for Jacksonville 1367 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 4: at New Orleans. Jacksonville at New Orleans, cass A question. 1368 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, given the uncertainty, I don't know, does it feel 1369 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 3: like that's being accounted for? 1370 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:33,920 Speaker 2: I think it. 1371 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 4: For me, I think that it does, but I also 1372 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 4: would say that I don't. I mean, I'm leading you now, 1373 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 4: it is, And I also think that they don't get 1374 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 4: new Orleans right a lot. So I yes, it looks 1375 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:47,160 Speaker 4: like that to me. 1376 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 3: Saints Saints minus one. 1377 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 2: So nailed it. So I think I led you too much. 1378 01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 3: There led me perfectly. 1379 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:54,480 Speaker 2: I led you. Write to Victory. 1380 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,440 Speaker 7: Well, I feel like we got to get your we 1381 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 7: gotta get your spirits up a little. 1382 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 3: That needed to be the Jay like that reason I 1383 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 3: asked it. If Lawren's playing the Jags are favored by three, 1384 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 3: I don't. 1385 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,360 Speaker 4: Know that they are, because they've done this with the 1386 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 4: Saints almost every week where they're lying the last. 1387 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 3: Week with my spirits, what's on my spirits? 1388 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,440 Speaker 2: Last week they did it with the With Houston. I 1389 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:14,960 Speaker 2: know he's worried. 1390 01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 4: He's got a lot of phone things he's worrying with today. 1391 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 4: He's constantly on this phone. He's like my kid. 1392 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 2: People are like You're like, You're like, we're working now, 1393 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 2: I am working. This is what I have to do 1394 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,640 Speaker 2: with the kids. Like you got it, We're working. 1395 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 3: Leave me alone. 1396 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 2: Jimmy, you got to stop it all right, here you go. 1397 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 3: Who's Jimmy Jimmy bang Bank. 1398 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,280 Speaker 2: Oh forget you're texting Jimmy bang bang show. 1399 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,439 Speaker 3: No, just no, I'm not one to three. I didn't 1400 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,920 Speaker 3: text him, I looked at it. Bang bang after three, yeah, 1401 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 3: after three. 1402 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 2: After three. 1403 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,160 Speaker 3: He'll text you all you want, all you want. 1404 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 2: I'll probably even call you. 1405 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 3: Maybe we need traveling music. 1406 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 4: Don't we I want some travel music. If you climbat 1407 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 4: cast some, they'd be great, be very wonderful. Brown's at Colts. 1408 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 3: Brown's minus two and a half. 1409 01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:05,080 Speaker 2: Honored, exactly good traveling mus two here. Raiders at Bears. 1410 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 2: Raiders at Bears. 1411 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 7: That's a garbage game. 1412 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 4: That's the worst game of the week because nobody knows 1413 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 4: who's playing quarterback. The one guy's a kid who played 1414 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 4: at like a Division seven school. 1415 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 3: The Bears can't be favored with that guy. They you 1416 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 3: know he's playing. Raiders are going to have Hoyer, I guess, 1417 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 3: or starting O'Connell. 1418 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 2: I would think you play O'Connell to see what he's 1419 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 2: all about. 1420 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,560 Speaker 7: McDaniel's uncommitted. 1421 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:31,840 Speaker 3: Raiders minus two and a half. 1422 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 2: Got it, Raiders minus three? 1423 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 3: Okay three? Now Maggie numbers four. 1424 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:41,840 Speaker 2: Bills at Patriots, Bills at. 1425 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:46,479 Speaker 3: Patriots, Bill's minus ten, Bills minus eight and a half. 1426 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 4: The Bills lines are usually the Patriots. The Bills line 1427 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,520 Speaker 4: is usually but look, they won by six this week 1428 01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 4: fourteen gross Commis at Giants. By the way, they have 1429 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 4: they are going to change that name, right, I mean 1430 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 4: they have to they clearly they're getting rid of that 1431 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 4: ridiculous name and all the branding behind it. 1432 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:08,840 Speaker 7: Just burn it, burn it. 1433 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,880 Speaker 3: Commis minus two and a half. 1434 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:18,919 Speaker 2: Got it, Commi's minus two, got it all right? Falcons 1435 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 2: at Bucks, Falcons at. 1436 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 3: Buccaneers, Tampa minus three. 1437 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 2: Got it, Tampa minus two and a half. 1438 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 4: You're in the sweet spot here, uh, Leo's at Ravens. 1439 01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:37,720 Speaker 3: Leo's at Ravens, Ravens minus two. 1440 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 2: And a half, Ravens minus three. 1441 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:42,080 Speaker 3: Six and one. Take that. 1442 01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 2: Gibbet Steelers at Just Rammant, Steelers at. 1443 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,320 Speaker 3: Just Rammant, Rams minus four. 1444 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,240 Speaker 2: No, Rams minus three. 1445 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 7: Spoke too soon there. 1446 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 2: He's still going to cruise to a wine. 1447 01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 3: Still got to go worse. 1448 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 7: I know he's going to cruise to it by if 1449 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,560 Speaker 7: we have to make it trash and immediately went in 1450 01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 7: the trash. 1451 01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,800 Speaker 3: You find that to be off by a point. 1452 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 2: Cardinals at Seattle, Cardinals at. 1453 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,520 Speaker 3: Seahawks, Seattle minus seven and a half. 1454 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,439 Speaker 2: On it, Seattle minus eight. 1455 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,640 Speaker 7: Okay, I got a half there? What goes into that number? 1456 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,720 Speaker 7: Because I would have not been able to come up 1457 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 7: with that. Why why did you come up with that number? 1458 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,240 Speaker 2: Because I look at phone, looking at the Lions, I 1459 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 2: think he's cheating. 1460 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 3: Now, Yes, what's happened exactly right? I thought they were 1461 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,440 Speaker 3: a touchdown favorite. And then I figured if it was 1462 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,560 Speaker 3: gonna be, it wasn't gonna be under seven. So I 1463 01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,200 Speaker 3: didn't have to do six and a half or seven 1464 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,960 Speaker 3: on the number. So I figured I'd give myself seven 1465 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 3: to eight, so I went seven point five. 1466 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 7: I'm just asking. I'm like, I saw that game, and 1467 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,439 Speaker 7: I'm like, I have no idea. 1468 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,280 Speaker 3: They the Cardinals aren't getting like they were ten to 1469 01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 3: the Niners, So I don't know. Foot of felt. 1470 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 4: The Seahawks are kind of like, follow my logic on this. 1471 01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,600 Speaker 4: They're a little bit like the Seahawks or the Vikings 1472 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,680 Speaker 4: when when they were healthy with cousins, Like there's certain 1473 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,160 Speaker 4: things they can win, and then there's a lot they 1474 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 4: can't sure and there's no way that as long as 1475 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:11,000 Speaker 4: this is the operation, there's no attaining the big goal 1476 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 4: is never possible, And so you say to yourself, well, 1477 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:14,560 Speaker 4: what are we doing? 1478 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,800 Speaker 2: Like this is fun? We have to win. Not everybody 1479 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,120 Speaker 2: gets to win the Super Bowl. Not everybody gets to 1480 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 2: go play in an NFC championship game. They're not going 1481 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,680 Speaker 2: to do those things. They'll fall short of that. But 1482 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,360 Speaker 2: they're a really nice team. Yes, and there's really but 1483 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 2: there's also fun. 1484 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:30,640 Speaker 3: Put them on a milk cart. 1485 01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:32,840 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not watching every game, so I'm not sure 1486 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 4: what's happening there or not. But statistically that he's not doing. 1487 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,960 Speaker 3: A whole He's in the league in yards per out run. 1488 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 2: It's strange. I don't know, Packers at. 1489 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 4: I also think we all also start to qualify you 1490 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:44,240 Speaker 4: as known Buckeye hater. 1491 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:46,640 Speaker 3: No it. 1492 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 2: It feels like we get a Jackson Smith and Jig 1493 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 2: update every week from you. 1494 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,800 Speaker 3: That's much more about him being on many of my 1495 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 3: fantasy teams because all of my known Buckeye lovers told 1496 01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 3: me that this guy's a best receiver. It miss he's 1497 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:01,840 Speaker 3: better than Wilson and Lave. 1498 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 2: This is great. I don't know. 1499 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 4: I don't know what the hell is going on there, 1500 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 4: uh Packer, but I'm not watching every day, so I'm 1501 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:07,520 Speaker 4: not sure. 1502 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,800 Speaker 2: Me Packers at Broncos, I. 1503 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,600 Speaker 3: Didn't even say that. I'm a big Garrett Wilson guy. 1504 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 3: C J. Stroud. I just wanted it in the atmosphere outrageous. 1505 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,280 Speaker 3: He's not going to sleep for a week dress all right? 1506 01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 3: Who what? 1507 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:21,400 Speaker 2: Packers at Broncos. 1508 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:26,680 Speaker 7: I really just wanted to get you off your game. 1509 01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. I've already won. I don't care if 1510 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:34,360 Speaker 3: I missed the next four. Packers at Broncos, Packers minus two. 1511 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:42,840 Speaker 2: Packers minus one, Chargers at Chiefs, Chargers at Chiefs. They 1512 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:43,679 Speaker 2: finally got a game. 1513 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 3: Chiefs minus five, Chiefs minus five and a half. How 1514 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:50,759 Speaker 3: about that, gibbet. 1515 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,200 Speaker 2: That's a good get out. It's a good job most people. 1516 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 4: This tells you the real truth, by the way, about 1517 01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,760 Speaker 4: the Chargers, because the Chiefs aren't playing lights out. This 1518 01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,280 Speaker 4: is a reflection of what they actually are versus what 1519 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 4: we think they should be based on their talent. 1520 01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 2: Because this should be Chiefs three based on talent. But 1521 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:12,360 Speaker 2: it's Dolphins Eagles, Dolphins. 1522 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:13,479 Speaker 7: You want to wait up. 1523 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 3: All day one in Philly, Dolphins at Eagles. Now, I 1524 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:20,760 Speaker 3: would have thought the Dolphins would have been favored at 1525 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,680 Speaker 3: the Bills. They were not, and the Bills smoked them. 1526 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,680 Speaker 2: One of the criticisms of Miami is they have not 1527 01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:27,640 Speaker 2: played anybody. 1528 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,400 Speaker 3: The Eagles will be pushed. The Eagles are going to 1529 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 3: be favored, even coming off of the loss, and then 1530 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,200 Speaker 3: this feels like that budes well, bad for the Dolphins again. 1531 01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,560 Speaker 3: I'm NSSA say, Eagles minus two and a half. 1532 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:44,040 Speaker 2: Eagles minus two, got it, got it wrong? 1533 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,639 Speaker 4: Give me yeah, No nine and three at the moment, 1534 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,000 Speaker 4: and we'll close out with the team of your youth. 1535 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 4: The San Francisco forty nine ers at MINNISOTAYNY Night football garbage. 1536 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 3: Niners minus nine and a half. 1537 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:11,040 Speaker 2: No Niners minus seven. That's a tricky one. 1538 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,559 Speaker 3: All right, it's nine four, another winner. We're at a 1539 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:15,880 Speaker 3: half point baby, six and one. 1540 01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got it down. You're in the sweet spot 1541 01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,120 Speaker 4: with them. You got them sorted out, all right. 1542 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:25,240 Speaker 3: Very good, hate and finish. Just accusations. 1543 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. I just was curious. I thought we 1544 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,160 Speaker 2: could put it out into the atmosphere. 1545 01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:31,599 Speaker 7: There's some Ohio State crime goal. 1546 01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,560 Speaker 2: It feels like you're going at the bucks on a 1547 01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,840 Speaker 2: big week. It's Penn State week. Can't have this. I know. 1548 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,599 Speaker 7: We are scheduled to take off, arguably in the third 1549 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,519 Speaker 7: or fourth quarter in that game. Desperately trying to find 1550 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 7: out from our travel gurus if there will be an 1551 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,080 Speaker 7: ability to watch the game on said play. 1552 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:56,800 Speaker 2: It'll be a fourth quarter game. I think it'll be 1553 01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,559 Speaker 2: four quarters. They're actually very similar. 1554 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 4: They both have first year quarterbacks Drew Rowler, the kid 1555 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 4: out of a Dinah who's quarterback in Penn State, doing 1556 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 4: a very very fine job. But everything is underneath right now. 1557 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 4: They don't throw anything up top. Neither team has been 1558 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,000 Speaker 4: that explosive. It's a shame it's a noon game. Quite honestly, 1559 01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:12,080 Speaker 4: that's should be. 1560 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:12,719 Speaker 3: A ni game. 1561 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,360 Speaker 7: I've seen your posts, you know, the ad saying we 1562 01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,000 Speaker 7: need you in early. Yes, no, that wouldn't be a 1563 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:19,760 Speaker 7: problem if it were Nike. 1564 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 2: No, it would not. It would not be a problem. 1565 01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:26,800 Speaker 4: They had they they stumbled into an incredible tradition of 1566 01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:30,240 Speaker 4: that game being played either there or in Columbus at 1567 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,520 Speaker 4: night around Halloween. 1568 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:34,560 Speaker 2: There was something perfect. 1569 01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 4: About it and the idea that and I know we 1570 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,799 Speaker 4: all know why television you took the money, and Fox 1571 01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,840 Speaker 4: for their part was very smart with big noon kick, 1572 01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:47,160 Speaker 4: but the the hit that it takes to the on 1573 01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:48,759 Speaker 4: field atmosphere is enormous. 1574 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,519 Speaker 3: Is the thought that they will get more viewers at 1575 01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,320 Speaker 3: noon than going head to head with somebody. 1576 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,599 Speaker 4: At eight Yeah, but it's really more that no one 1577 01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 4: was doing noon. Noon was the other than like Texas Oklahoma. 1578 01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,519 Speaker 4: There were a couple of games Ohio State Michigan that 1579 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:07,080 Speaker 4: are traditionally noon games. Everybody else punted on noon. All 1580 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 4: the networks punted on noon's the conference punned o'clock, where 1581 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,679 Speaker 4: the two windows where the biggest games are played. Fox 1582 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,840 Speaker 4: gets into college football and they said, huh, nobody's playing 1583 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,639 Speaker 4: big games at noon. I wonder if we play big 1584 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,400 Speaker 4: games at noon, and then we happen to have a 1585 01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,519 Speaker 4: partnership with Ohio State, which is as big a brand 1586 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,400 Speaker 4: as anybody in the country. Now, all of a sudden, 1587 01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:30,320 Speaker 4: we can play at noon, will play unobstructed, We'll do 1588 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,160 Speaker 4: a pregame show that leads into it. 1589 01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, now all of a sudden, I mean, it's brilliant 1590 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,040 Speaker 2: for Fox. The shame is that the Big Ten, and 1591 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 2: most especially Ohio State, which de facto runs the Big Ten, 1592 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 2: doesn't come in and say, actually, this one, you can't have. 1593 01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:45,400 Speaker 2: This one's going at night. 1594 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,120 Speaker 3: And that's Have they ever played Ohio State Michigan at night? 1595 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 2: No, they played at three thirty. In two thousand and six. 1596 01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:53,360 Speaker 3: Was that the year when they were like one, one, 1597 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,479 Speaker 3: two two, Chad Henny was that chedd Henny? 1598 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. And Troy Smith. 1599 01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,400 Speaker 3: I remember that. That was in the afternoons. I was at 1600 01:12:58,400 --> 01:12:59,680 Speaker 3: a wedding in New York and I watched it. 1601 01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was that was the three That's the 1602 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 2: three thirty. Everything else. It's noon. 1603 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,840 Speaker 7: We were live at Eddie George's. 1604 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:07,920 Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. 1605 01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:09,960 Speaker 7: That was an unbelievable day. 1606 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,360 Speaker 2: It doesn't exist anymore. 1607 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 7: Bought the entire bar, round of shots hung out bless. 1608 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,160 Speaker 7: I was like, what is going on? 1609 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:17,840 Speaker 2: So cool? 1610 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 3: Who bought the entire bar Eddie Eddie George. Well maybe 1611 01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,160 Speaker 3: that's so it doesn't exist. 1612 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:24,360 Speaker 5: They were that could be. 1613 01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't be buying rounds. You get make a 1614 01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 2: habit out of that. 1615 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,760 Speaker 4: No, and then the Big Ten doesn't play night games 1616 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 4: in November historically, although they are now because they took 1617 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,320 Speaker 4: all the money. So that's why you'll have Michigan State, 1618 01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,760 Speaker 4: Ohio State at night, and you'll have I think Michigan State, 1619 01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,520 Speaker 4: Penn States at night on Thanksgiving Friday. 1620 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,960 Speaker 2: Up in Detroit. They're trying to make that something, which 1621 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:43,679 Speaker 2: to me is a bit of a failure. 1622 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,560 Speaker 4: All right, Reminders I and Gerrod Slim and Chubby Strongsville 1623 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,559 Speaker 4: Thursday Night, seven to eight Kevin Sepanski Show. 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We'll see what where today goes. 1642 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,799 Speaker 3: Do you think there's a chance you could play on Sunday. 1643 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,320 Speaker 13: I think, so it just depends on you know, the 1644 01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,479 Speaker 13: process of you know, the medical stuff and the treatment 1645 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,320 Speaker 13: and the rehab that we're doing day to day. 1646 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,559 Speaker 5: So you know, it's it's up and there for sure, 1647 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,080 Speaker 5: what's the last robe. 1648 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,680 Speaker 13: It's really just finishing up, you know it. It's me 1649 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,400 Speaker 13: I'm learning through this whole process. So honestly, it's just 1650 01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:16,760 Speaker 13: you know, with a rotator cuff, it's a it's a 1651 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,080 Speaker 13: difficult thing with you know, throwing a ball and you 1652 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,840 Speaker 13: know doing you know, just the movement and rotation and 1653 01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:23,719 Speaker 13: mobility stuff. 1654 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,280 Speaker 5: So uh just really just trying to clean. 1655 01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:30,920 Speaker 13: Up any uh lingering pain and any lingering you know 1656 01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,040 Speaker 13: stuff that's you know in that rotator cut. 1657 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:34,960 Speaker 5: Did the injury affect you in the game? 1658 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:36,920 Speaker 2: I know you didn't finish the game before. 1659 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,800 Speaker 7: We thought that was because of the scoreboard. 1660 01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,439 Speaker 2: So what happened to make a a two and a 1661 01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:42,360 Speaker 2: half week injury? 1662 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,519 Speaker 5: Uh, well, it just we didn't know what it was 1663 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,879 Speaker 5: during the game. You know, the injuries we felt. 1664 01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:54,120 Speaker 13: We felt that uh you know during the during the game, 1665 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,280 Speaker 13: but you know, at the time I drawing it going 1666 01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,719 Speaker 13: and everything's kind of flowing, so you know, certain throws 1667 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,160 Speaker 13: was kind of easier. I just kind of dealt with it. 1668 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:04,800 Speaker 5: You know. 1669 01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:06,320 Speaker 13: It was a couple of throws where I felt it, 1670 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,800 Speaker 13: but we didn't know exactly what it. 1671 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,639 Speaker 3: Was before throwing. 1672 01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,559 Speaker 9: You for the Baltimore game, there was a little zip 1673 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,000 Speaker 9: at all on those passes. 1674 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:16,080 Speaker 12: So how is that? 1675 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,639 Speaker 3: How is your throwing progressed since then? 1676 01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,680 Speaker 13: Uh, that's coming along. It's uh definitely been. Uh the 1677 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,680 Speaker 13: arrow has been, you know, trending up. So you know, 1678 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,360 Speaker 13: each and every day we've just been trying to get 1679 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,360 Speaker 13: better and better and try to get as comfortable as possible. 1680 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,519 Speaker 12: Was this a slow diagnosis cause you were hoping to 1681 01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:40,160 Speaker 12: play that Ravens game and you couldn't and it it 1682 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,719 Speaker 12: just seemed like that, you know, there was a process 1683 01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,920 Speaker 12: here to figure out what was going on in the 1684 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 12: severity and how long you'd have to rest it and 1685 01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 12: stuff like that. 1686 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:51,519 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean we didn't figure out until that Saturday, 1687 01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:54,559 Speaker 13: the day uh before the Ravens game. So y, you know, 1688 01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,360 Speaker 13: all week it was just swelling bruise and then once 1689 01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,439 Speaker 13: you're swelling can go down. That's when we got there 1690 01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,160 Speaker 13: in marn and the and where I came back and 1691 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,600 Speaker 13: we found out Saturday evening. You know, it was a 1692 01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:08,000 Speaker 13: rotator cuff, and usually you sit out. But you know, 1693 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,000 Speaker 13: I told you know, the people, the medical staff as 1694 01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,120 Speaker 13: a as a whole that you know, we would see 1695 01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,800 Speaker 13: what happens, you know, Sunday morning, and let's try to 1696 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,240 Speaker 13: get there early and and work out. And we did 1697 01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:18,720 Speaker 13: that and. 1698 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:19,600 Speaker 5: You know we couldn't go. 1699 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:21,920 Speaker 12: Are you concerned that this is gonna linger at all 1700 01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,280 Speaker 12: this year that's gonna affect your passing through the season 1701 01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,640 Speaker 12: or do you think that you'll be a hundred a 1702 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,120 Speaker 12: hundred percent at some point for uh this year? 1703 01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:30,719 Speaker 5: I'm not sure. 1704 01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,000 Speaker 13: Uh, I got this is my first time dealing with 1705 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,639 Speaker 13: a rotator cuff. So I'm just trying to get as 1706 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,040 Speaker 13: comfortable as I possibly can to go out there and 1707 01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 13: perform at the the lovel I know I can, and 1708 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,759 Speaker 13: if I can't, then you know, we just gotta continue 1709 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,160 Speaker 13: to take your day to day. You know, I'm not 1710 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,000 Speaker 13: gonna pick the team in jeopardy if I can't do 1711 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,000 Speaker 13: certain things that is gonna allow us to you know, 1712 01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,599 Speaker 13: be handicapped in a certain situations. So you know that's 1713 01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,880 Speaker 13: the reason why I haven't been able to, you know, step. 1714 01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:55,120 Speaker 5: On the field. 1715 01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:56,600 Speaker 2: Can you know, what playing happened on? 1716 01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:57,880 Speaker 5: Uh? 1717 01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,680 Speaker 13: It was the the ardent keep one m Nah, I 1718 01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,640 Speaker 13: wasn't now on Uh, it was a player on the 1719 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:03,040 Speaker 13: goal line. 1720 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:04,439 Speaker 5: It was right before Jerome scored. 1721 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,520 Speaker 11: MM. So I was told. 1722 01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,759 Speaker 10: Then, uh, you will be out there. 1723 01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:14,320 Speaker 11: Until you're pain free and until you can throw normally. 1724 01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,080 Speaker 11: So is that where the bar is. 1725 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:16,519 Speaker 12: Set for you? 1726 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,200 Speaker 11: I mean, are you really gonna kind of try to 1727 01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,920 Speaker 11: adhere adhere to that and really make sure that you 1728 01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,479 Speaker 11: not don't feel any just comfort nor shoulder before you play. 1729 01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,720 Speaker 13: No, it's not so much of the pain, it's it's 1730 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,680 Speaker 13: most it's mostly if I can you know, throw the 1731 01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,400 Speaker 13: football the pain, you know, I can. I can deal 1732 01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,280 Speaker 13: with certain pain, you know, tolerance. But if I can't 1733 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,000 Speaker 13: control the football, I can't throw the football with no velocity. 1734 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,519 Speaker 13: If I can't throw the football more than a certain 1735 01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,680 Speaker 13: m you know, amount of yards, then, like I said before. 1736 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,240 Speaker 5: Then I don't wanna handicap the team. 1737 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,120 Speaker 13: Because you know, then I can't get the ball downfield 1738 01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,519 Speaker 13: and uh, you know I can't get the ball outside 1739 01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,200 Speaker 13: the numbers and things like that. So, like I said, 1740 01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,160 Speaker 13: that was you know, a couple of weeks ago. But 1741 01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,400 Speaker 13: you know, the progress in the era is definitely upward, 1742 01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,160 Speaker 13: and you know, we just can continue. 1743 01:18:58,760 --> 01:18:59,920 Speaker 5: To just attack it each. 1744 01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:05,120 Speaker 6: And how about what made any one hundred philosophy throws? 1745 01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:05,360 Speaker 12: Yet? 1746 01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,680 Speaker 5: You know, it's just been going at d day to day. 1747 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:10,439 Speaker 5: Just every day. 1748 01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,960 Speaker 13: We've been you know, taking steps and you know, making 1749 01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,520 Speaker 13: sure we don't do anything for any you know, setbacks 1750 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:19,720 Speaker 13: and and that throwing shoulders. So you know whatever, you know, 1751 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,559 Speaker 13: the medical staff and the and the team has allowing 1752 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,840 Speaker 13: me to do. You know, there's a process and in place, 1753 01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,840 Speaker 13: and there's a plan and uh we've been following up. 1754 01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,439 Speaker 3: To throw over the last week. 1755 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 5: You said, do it? How much have you been able 1756 01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,599 Speaker 5: to throw over the last week? You know, we've been 1757 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,880 Speaker 5: trying to just knik at it each and every day. 1758 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:38,800 Speaker 13: You know, we gotta take some days off cause you 1759 01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,200 Speaker 13: can't do too much from you know, what I've what 1760 01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,040 Speaker 13: I've experienced and what I've you know, known from from 1761 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:44,880 Speaker 13: the medical staff. 1762 01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 5: You know, it's a tricky it's a tricky deal. 1763 01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,599 Speaker 13: So you know you gotta kind of take that baseball approach, 1764 01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,200 Speaker 13: you know, and and talk to some people that deals 1765 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,200 Speaker 13: with rotator coats you know more often. Uh So that's 1766 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,120 Speaker 13: what we've been doing and and just really trying to 1767 01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,120 Speaker 13: strengthen uh that muscle and everything around it, so we 1768 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:00,960 Speaker 13: can get back comfortable. 1769 01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:01,400 Speaker 8: Now, are you. 1770 01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,240 Speaker 12: When you feel uh comfortable, then once should you get 1771 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,880 Speaker 12: back out there. They there's no risk of further damaging it. 1772 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,280 Speaker 13: Not that I know of that. I haven't mentioned that 1773 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,880 Speaker 13: part to me. So I'm not gonna be thinking out 1774 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:16,680 Speaker 13: there and that That's another thing. I don't wanna get 1775 01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,280 Speaker 13: out there and be hesitant throwing the ball or anything 1776 01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:23,479 Speaker 13: like that. So you know, I'm I'm not gonna put myself, 1777 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:24,880 Speaker 13: you know, first in a situation. 1778 01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,840 Speaker 5: I'm fifteen first. Is there any kind of situation right now? 1779 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,879 Speaker 13: Is you know PJ going out there and the performing 1780 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:33,599 Speaker 13: like he did someday to help this team win. 1781 01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:37,280 Speaker 2: Did you get a second opinion from outside the club? Uh? 1782 01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,680 Speaker 13: Yeah, We always on the same page and uh from 1783 01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:41,960 Speaker 13: the front office to the head coaching staff to the 1784 01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,880 Speaker 13: medical staff. So and uh, you know anybody else that 1785 01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,360 Speaker 13: you know that's on my team outside of the building. Uh, 1786 01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,840 Speaker 13: we all communicated and talked and got on the same page. 1787 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,799 Speaker 2: Is there any kind of terror in that rotator cluff? 1788 01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:54,280 Speaker 9: Nah? 1789 01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:54,599 Speaker 14: I don't. 1790 01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,679 Speaker 5: I haven't seen anything or heard anything. 1791 01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,600 Speaker 9: I mean sure, because I mean when you say it 1792 01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:04,280 Speaker 9: like that, so you've had mrized everything, no tears. 1793 01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:04,759 Speaker 3: Just a bruise. 1794 01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,080 Speaker 13: It's a strain. It's a strainer as micro it's a 1795 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,920 Speaker 13: micro tear. So it's like small It's basically like getting 1796 01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,240 Speaker 13: a cut on the hand, like a couple of slashes 1797 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,760 Speaker 13: on the hand of that muscle. And that's what a 1798 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,679 Speaker 13: micro test strained for the rotator. 1799 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,200 Speaker 5: Cause, like terriers just shown jury that gonna happen. 1800 01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:24,000 Speaker 6: But this is another stopping for you, another way off 1801 01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 6: for you of frustrating is that. 1802 01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:27,720 Speaker 5: I mean, it's definitely frustrating. You know, I wanna be 1803 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,160 Speaker 5: on the field. You know, we we. 1804 01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,080 Speaker 13: Felt like you know, after the Tennessee game, we were 1805 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,000 Speaker 13: getting the the ground running for the for this offense 1806 01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,280 Speaker 13: and then you know, as all three phases, but uh 1807 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:39,519 Speaker 13: you know, as part of the game. 1808 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:40,439 Speaker 5: You know, it comes with it. 1809 01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,120 Speaker 13: You know, I gotta deal with the adversity and just 1810 01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,360 Speaker 13: take it as it come, and but continue to be 1811 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,880 Speaker 13: a leader as uh as I am and keep helping 1812 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,040 Speaker 13: the you know, guys around me, and when that time 1813 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:50,840 Speaker 13: come back and stuff on the field and and go 1814 01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:51,200 Speaker 13: out there and. 1815 01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:51,760 Speaker 5: Help the team win. 1816 01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:56,240 Speaker 11: So have those micro terres you know in the straight 1817 01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,639 Speaker 11: Is there is there any risk that a small chair 1818 01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,080 Speaker 11: for from a personal terror which would be required during 1819 01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:03,960 Speaker 11: the surgery and you you you lost from the season. 1820 01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,840 Speaker 11: Is that part of your thinking process that something like 1821 01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:07,960 Speaker 11: that could possibly happen? 1822 01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:08,840 Speaker 2: Uh? 1823 01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:10,320 Speaker 5: Not that I know of. 1824 01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,760 Speaker 13: You know, they they said it wasn't anything worse than 1825 01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:17,120 Speaker 13: a a strain rotator cuff. Uh So I'm not, you know, 1826 01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,040 Speaker 13: thinking about that. And you know, I'm just following the steps, 1827 01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:23,120 Speaker 13: the medical protocols that you know, they want me to follow, 1828 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,160 Speaker 13: and hopefully everything gets you know, when I step on 1829 01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:27,519 Speaker 13: the field, everything goes pretty smooth. 1830 01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:28,960 Speaker 12: Cause if you were to say that you could be 1831 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,200 Speaker 12: back on Sunday, if it all goes well, where it 1832 01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,880 Speaker 12: could be say another month because recovery just continues to 1833 01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:35,880 Speaker 12: be a little bit slower. 1834 01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:37,080 Speaker 5: Is that is that a fair way to. 1835 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:38,120 Speaker 6: Look at this? Uh? 1836 01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:39,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it could be any day. It can 1837 01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:41,519 Speaker 5: be tomorrow, it could be Sunday, it can be two 1838 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:41,960 Speaker 5: weeks from me. 1839 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,320 Speaker 13: I'm I'm not even sure, you know, I'm just like 1840 01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,519 Speaker 13: I said, it's day to day and I'm following, you know, 1841 01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,640 Speaker 13: the steps of this the medical team, and you know, 1842 01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,640 Speaker 13: when that time is is ready, then I'm gonna go 1843 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,760 Speaker 13: out there. I can't put a timeline on anything right. 1844 01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:56,760 Speaker 12: Now to think the time I to. I mean, cause 1845 01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,559 Speaker 12: you know, typically you go for exams, they look at 1846 01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,599 Speaker 12: your fine whatever, and they say, hey, it's gonna take 1847 01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:02,200 Speaker 12: you a week or two, two to four weeks. Did 1848 01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,280 Speaker 12: they give you any type of timeline decide to a 1849 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,920 Speaker 12: day to day Nah? 1850 01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,240 Speaker 13: I mean, it's just religious day to day. It's just 1851 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,840 Speaker 13: kind of when it heals on his own, you know. 1852 01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,160 Speaker 13: And I think that's the that's the tricky part about it. 1853 01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,880 Speaker 13: It's one of those deals where it's no different than 1854 01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,000 Speaker 13: you know, a sprinting having a hamstring. Is it just 1855 01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:20,720 Speaker 13: one of those deals where it's day to day when 1856 01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,040 Speaker 13: it when it heals, it heals. 1857 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:23,240 Speaker 7: You know. 1858 01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,000 Speaker 13: From the research I've been doing and talking with the staff, 1859 01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,760 Speaker 13: I guess rotator cuffs are usually four to six weeks. 1860 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:32,479 Speaker 5: I you know, I'm I'm not sure. 1861 01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,479 Speaker 13: Like I said, it's my first time dealing with it, 1862 01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,640 Speaker 13: so I'm just making sure i wanna do it right 1863 01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:38,000 Speaker 13: so I don't have any problems later. 1864 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,479 Speaker 2: On all from that hit or is it just the 1865 01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,360 Speaker 2: wear in terrabuted quarterback from church? 1866 01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:42,760 Speaker 9: Nah? 1867 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:43,320 Speaker 7: It was that hit. 1868 01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,360 Speaker 13: It was one of the hits where I just you know, 1869 01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,360 Speaker 13: cut back, he flashed, she got up underneath me, uh, 1870 01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:50,200 Speaker 13: writing in that rotator. 1871 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:51,680 Speaker 5: Cuff, and you know I instantly felt it. 1872 01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,000 Speaker 13: But you know, at that time, you know, I thought 1873 01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,599 Speaker 13: it was just you know, one just a regular football hit. 1874 01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,799 Speaker 13: And I finished the game, and you know, we reviewed 1875 01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,120 Speaker 13: it and who went through the week of you know, 1876 01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,639 Speaker 13: trying to treat it and got there Maria's Saturday wants 1877 01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:06,519 Speaker 13: to swell 'em down, and and that's where I'm. 1878 01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:07,160 Speaker 5: Front of to Shawn. 1879 01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,240 Speaker 11: There haven't been too many quarterbacks that you're trying to 1880 01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,160 Speaker 11: do some research. I haven't seen too many quarterbacks with 1881 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,439 Speaker 11: rotator from injuries. I saw Drew Brees have one. I 1882 01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,240 Speaker 11: have you talked to any other NFL quarterbacks? Uh that 1883 01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,640 Speaker 11: have you know that have dealt with best? 1884 01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,479 Speaker 13: No, ma'am. I you know I was the same same 1885 01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,080 Speaker 13: boat as you. I've just tryna figure out, you know, 1886 01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,439 Speaker 13: on the top of my head, who's dealt with a 1887 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:35,200 Speaker 13: rotator cuff. Maybe AC joints, But I dealt with the 1888 01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,000 Speaker 13: AC joint. And you know, you can nu 'e up 1889 01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:38,920 Speaker 13: the AC joint like I did in college. But you 1890 01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,680 Speaker 13: can't roll, you can't know 'em up the muscle the 1891 01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,960 Speaker 13: rotator cuff to cut out control. So you know, I've 1892 01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,320 Speaker 13: seen people you know around talking about that, you know, 1893 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:47,639 Speaker 13: go out there and play. I mean, if I can't 1894 01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:49,720 Speaker 13: control the ball, you know, then I can't throw it. 1895 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,880 Speaker 13: Then you know, it's no benefit of me being out there. 1896 01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,960 Speaker 13: So you know, those are two different, totally different injuries. 1897 01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,400 Speaker 13: Uh but maybe Drew Bery, Yeah, that's the only one 1898 01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:00,120 Speaker 13: a couple of years. 1899 01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,040 Speaker 7: So because it happened on a designed run. 1900 01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,479 Speaker 8: When you get back out there, do you think you'll 1901 01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:07,679 Speaker 8: have to change your style or protect yourself differently? 1902 01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,840 Speaker 13: I don't want to, uh, you know, but I definitely 1903 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,000 Speaker 13: gotta make sure I just you know, if I can, 1904 01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:15,160 Speaker 13: you know, protect myself. 1905 01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,040 Speaker 5: I try to turn my back. That's how he caught me. 1906 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,400 Speaker 5: Instead of running, you know, head up with him. 1907 01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,800 Speaker 13: I try to turn and he just called me away 1908 01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:23,320 Speaker 13: on that the outside. 1909 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,040 Speaker 5: But you know, I don't. 1910 01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:26,840 Speaker 13: I don't wanna change the way I play because that's 1911 01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,559 Speaker 13: you know, the success I've had. So uh, I just 1912 01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,040 Speaker 13: gotta make sure I just try to protect myself as 1913 01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:32,679 Speaker 13: best as I can. 1914 01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:36,840 Speaker 12: A last one here start and so just you know 1915 01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:38,960 Speaker 12: what type of challenge is that calling stufference? 1916 01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:39,559 Speaker 7: Uh? 1917 01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,080 Speaker 3: Present you have some more? 1918 01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,200 Speaker 13: Uh yeah, I mean every week since I've been out, 1919 01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,120 Speaker 13: I've I'm preparing myself to start, you know, I I 1920 01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,240 Speaker 13: do the same stuff I've been doing each and every week. 1921 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,519 Speaker 13: I don't I don't try to do anything different, you know, 1922 01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,280 Speaker 13: a little extra time on the treatment side, but outside 1923 01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,519 Speaker 13: of that, I'm always preparing like i'm'a play and then 1924 01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,600 Speaker 13: you know, any offensive presents for me. 1925 01:25:58,760 --> 01:25:59,840 Speaker 5: You know, I'm used to that team. 1926 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:00,400 Speaker 10: I'm used to. 1927 01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,600 Speaker 13: I know it's a different defensive coordinator, but you know, 1928 01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:04,360 Speaker 13: just playing in India is is difficult. 1929 01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:05,640 Speaker 5: You know, the crowd's gonna be into it. 1930 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,920 Speaker 13: The defense create turnovers, The defense is very Uh they 1931 01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,000 Speaker 13: feed off the energy of that stadium and uh, it's 1932 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,160 Speaker 13: a great place to play, a great environment. So you know, 1933 01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,519 Speaker 13: they led by that linebacker group and up front and 1934 01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:17,959 Speaker 13: you know, I know they young in the in the secondary, 1935 01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:19,120 Speaker 13: but those guys. 1936 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,800 Speaker 5: Are gonna come, you know and be ready for the challenge. 1937 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,880 Speaker 5: So you know, we gotta make sure we readytition like 1938 01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,040 Speaker 5: ANX schools more more, was. 1939 01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,280 Speaker 11: It upsetting team that so many people questioned? 1940 01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,640 Speaker 12: You know, kind of like your toughness or whether you. 1941 01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,479 Speaker 11: Just decided you didn't wanna play against the Ravens. 1942 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,080 Speaker 2: It seemed like there was just so. 1943 01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,120 Speaker 11: Much of that stuff floating around out there. 1944 01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,760 Speaker 13: I mean, yeah, of course, Uh you know, I've never 1945 01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,639 Speaker 13: been the the type of guy that's been questioned about 1946 01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,679 Speaker 13: my toughness. But I guess, you know, whatever they wanna 1947 01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,160 Speaker 13: put out, then everyone's entitled to their own opinions. 1948 01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,240 Speaker 5: As long as this locker room, in this organization, you 1949 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:54,080 Speaker 5: know who I am and what I'm dealing with, big foe. Uh, 1950 01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:55,840 Speaker 5: then that's that's all that matters. 1951 01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:57,759 Speaker 13: You know, all that outside knows, all the other stuff 1952 01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,120 Speaker 13: is just you know, they feeding off of what is 1953 01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,120 Speaker 13: said of social media and all that stuff. 1954 01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:03,160 Speaker 6: Is in the slackers. 1955 01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,040 Speaker 5: You know what is is in this locker room and 1956 01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:07,920 Speaker 5: his team, and that's how that matters. 1957 01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:09,160 Speaker 3: You know. 1958 01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,040 Speaker 4: The thing that sucks about there's a many there's many 1959 01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:13,599 Speaker 4: there are great many things that are great about being 1960 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:17,000 Speaker 4: a professional athlete, and it certainly outweighs the negatives. But 1961 01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:18,800 Speaker 4: the one thing he said at the end there where 1962 01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,640 Speaker 4: he said social media isn't real. It's not unless you 1963 01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,479 Speaker 4: let it be right and as an athlete, and we've 1964 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,160 Speaker 4: seen We use the Durant line all the time where 1965 01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:28,440 Speaker 4: he had a Burner account. 1966 01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:31,160 Speaker 2: To defend himself. He's the best scorer either of us have. 1967 01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,680 Speaker 4: I mean, the most unguardable player I've ever seen in 1968 01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,799 Speaker 4: the NBA as a seven footer who shoots like Steph Curry, 1969 01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,360 Speaker 4: and he's on social media defending himself. So like it is, 1970 01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,120 Speaker 4: we saw it with Bake, Like they are in their 1971 01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,680 Speaker 4: phones and they're seeing this stuff, and so you can 1972 01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,160 Speaker 4: say it's not real, but if you read it, it 1973 01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:52,760 Speaker 4: is and it affects you. It's rare that you find 1974 01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:53,679 Speaker 4: somebody who it doesn't. 1975 01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:58,360 Speaker 3: No, there's no doubt. I mean, even in any line 1976 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,360 Speaker 3: of work that you do that is public or certainly 1977 01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,960 Speaker 3: in the sports business, like yep, you got to be 1978 01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,680 Speaker 3: careful that you read. You know, you're not going You're 1979 01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:10,439 Speaker 3: not gonna please everybody, that's for sure. And for the athletes, yeah, 1980 01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,800 Speaker 3: but that is their life, that is their call every day. 1981 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:17,360 Speaker 3: It's about raised there. Raised they're putting their lives out 1982 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,640 Speaker 3: on social media. They're often cases going to get compensated 1983 01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:24,439 Speaker 3: for doing so. And that's the thing that is like, 1984 01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,639 Speaker 3: it's it's the way that they've they've grew up that way. 1985 01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:28,320 Speaker 3: They grew up with it. 1986 01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:31,439 Speaker 2: You our generation didn't formed when we had it. 1987 01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:32,599 Speaker 3: We do you even have cell phones? 1988 01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:33,320 Speaker 2: No, of course not. 1989 01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:34,760 Speaker 4: My kids asked me that, when's the first time you 1990 01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:36,560 Speaker 4: had a cell phone? I said college, college, It was 1991 01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:37,880 Speaker 4: the first time a cell phone. 1992 01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:38,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was it. 1993 01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:41,040 Speaker 3: But he was, you know, and it. 1994 01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:43,760 Speaker 2: Was Zach Morris brother. 1995 01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,400 Speaker 3: It was not a cell phone like they think, like, 1996 01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:47,320 Speaker 3: you can literally all you do is call people, you 1997 01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:48,639 Speaker 3: can you could even text. 1998 01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:52,160 Speaker 2: No, there wasn't until down the road, thank god. 1999 01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,280 Speaker 3: When I was in high school, I had a beeper. 2000 01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:55,280 Speaker 3: That's same. 2001 01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:56,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the wire. 2002 01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:57,679 Speaker 3: Yeah I had a beeper. 2003 01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's true, you did. 2004 01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:06,320 Speaker 4: But the point is is, like these guys are they 2005 01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:09,519 Speaker 4: are idle idolized from the time they're young. They're identified young, 2006 01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:12,120 Speaker 4: they're idolized young. Then all of a sudden, when it 2007 01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,920 Speaker 4: turns sometimes they don't know how to act. The best 2008 01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,080 Speaker 4: example of this is Lebron when he first went to Miami, 2009 01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,960 Speaker 4: he did not know how to act without adulation. The 2010 01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,640 Speaker 4: villain right was not something he was comfortable with in 2011 01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,240 Speaker 4: any way. And that first off season after those finals 2012 01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:29,120 Speaker 4: where the Dallas manager said JJ Berea guarding him. The 2013 01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:32,800 Speaker 4: everything changed around his messaging, all of it changed, and 2014 01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,360 Speaker 4: it was to try to find a sympathetic view towards him. 2015 01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:39,000 Speaker 4: And so no matter how big you are, it can 2016 01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:41,120 Speaker 4: be tough to hear that stuff. And that's that's the 2017 01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,920 Speaker 4: reality of that circumstance. 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You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily 2028 01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:08,720 Speaker 4: on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 2029 01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:16,160 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally bed Now 2030 01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:20,040 Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland. 2031 01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:37,000 Speaker 4: Joined Kennon Gerrod Tonight seven eight Brown's Preview Show along 2032 01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:40,639 Speaker 4: the University Hospitals, Cleveland Browns Radio Network OBO and Andrew 2033 01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,080 Speaker 4: Siciliana We're going to join the show to preview the 2034 01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:44,400 Speaker 4: Browns and the Cult. 2035 01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:45,960 Speaker 2: Is it Andrew on the call this weekend with you? 2036 01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,600 Speaker 3: Yep, it'll be Andrew Siciliano again this weekend in Indianapolis. 2037 01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:52,240 Speaker 2: He did a great job. 2038 01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:54,639 Speaker 3: He did It was fun to work with him. Obviously, 2039 01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:57,760 Speaker 3: can't wait to get Jim back. But I've been very 2040 01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,639 Speaker 3: lucky to have Chris Rose. It was awesome. Then Andrew 2041 01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:03,120 Speaker 3: has been awesome, and it's been been really great. 2042 01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:06,719 Speaker 2: Do you guys, are either of you guys scary movie guys? 2043 01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:09,400 Speaker 7: Not particularly not. I hate him. 2044 01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,000 Speaker 4: So someone asked me this morning about it was like 2045 01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,920 Speaker 4: some sort of a death match between like Freddy Krueger 2046 01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:21,040 Speaker 4: and Mike Myers and Predator and Alien and all of this, 2047 01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:22,600 Speaker 4: and you could have one to protect you from all 2048 01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:25,720 Speaker 4: the rest of them. Okay, and I went Predator in 2049 01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,920 Speaker 4: part because it feels like he's impossible to defeat. I mean, 2050 01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:31,599 Speaker 4: he's disappear, he can he disappear, He's invisible. That feels 2051 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,720 Speaker 4: like a pretty big win. And also because while I'm 2052 01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:35,120 Speaker 4: aware of all the rest of them, I wasn't. 2053 01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,920 Speaker 2: Even aware of their powers. I've never seen any of 2054 01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,360 Speaker 2: those movies. I don't know about there and this guy's 2055 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:39,800 Speaker 2: not human. 2056 01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,320 Speaker 3: I'll take give me that guy, give me that guy always. 2057 01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Terminator was not involved. 2058 01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:49,800 Speaker 3: Like Michael Myers and Jason and those guys. 2059 01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:51,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I've never seen any of those movies. 2060 01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:52,320 Speaker 3: Give me the Predator. 2061 01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:54,720 Speaker 2: I'm with you you either. 2062 01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:55,439 Speaker 9: I do not. 2063 01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,280 Speaker 7: When like a preview comes on of like the newest one, 2064 01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,519 Speaker 7: I'm like, nope, not for me, No, no, thank you. 2065 01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,639 Speaker 4: All right, next levels coming up next, We're back tomorrow. 2066 01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,519 Speaker 4: Cleveland Brow's Daily, eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 2067 01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,040 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of 2068 01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:17,320 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland