1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: What's type is way up with Angela Yee and my 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: guy is here. I really I like you as a 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: person and as a chef. Chef JJ is here. 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: What's up? 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: What's up? 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: It's always good to see you, know, it's always good 7 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: to see you. 8 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: And you've had an incredible year. I want to say, 9 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: I saw you opened up field trip at the Atlantis 10 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: and the Bahamas. We need you to come down, Okay, 11 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: say less because I just saw Kevin Lowles yesterday. He 12 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm gonna be going here and here 13 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: in Bahamas. I was like, okay, I need to I 14 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: got you. Yeah, I haven't been there in so long. 15 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: You heard it here first ladies and gentlemen. But it's 16 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: at the Atlantis. And I love the Atlantis. 17 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: Yes, I love the Atlantis too because they really believed 18 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: in me. It's like, that's my first big licensee deal 19 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: in the business structure, you know, handing over your IP 20 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: to somebody else to run, you know, being there with 21 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: amazing chefs. Noboo. Andre. 22 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: I want to tell you so, my my great Atlantis 23 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: story is when I used to work for Eminem. It 24 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: was one of the women that works there. It was 25 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: her birthday. My girl Tracy, and so Paul Rosenberg calls me. 26 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: He's like, listen, we're sending Tracy to this hotel in 27 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: the Bahamas for her birthday. It's a birthday gift. This 28 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: is when the Cove just opened at the Atlantis. And 29 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: he was like, I was like, okay, that's so nice. 30 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: He was like, but we can't send her alone. So 31 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: do you want to go? And I was like absolutely. 32 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: So I ended up going on that trip. But I 33 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: didn't have any money right because I was younger, I 34 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: was broker, and so I ended up winning money in 35 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: the casino there. So it's always going to have twenty 36 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: four hundred dollars in the slots in like less than 37 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 1: five minutes. Yeah, I want to play the slots. 38 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: I never win. 39 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: I never normally played the slats, but let me tell 40 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: you that IgM of Jenie slot machine that day, it 41 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: was my day and I hait you. 42 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: So you were good for the rest of the truck. 43 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: So the rest of the trip I was paying well, 44 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: I took it to Nobu, I was paying for everything 45 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: that But that was such a blessing and that's why 46 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm always like, so, I'm so happy that you opened 47 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: at the Atlantis. Because I would definitely be there to 48 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: check it out. 49 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: No, we would love to have you. Field trip is 50 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: there right before you enter into the water park. It is, 51 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: you know, very something consciously healthy, better for people that 52 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: are looking for good food. It's good for kids. You 53 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: could eat on the beach. But yeah, we're part of 54 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: the new addition to the food program there. When I 55 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: got the call to open, they wanted to partner with us. 56 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 2: The president of the Alantis came the field trip in Harlem. Wow, 57 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: me and her sat down. She just wanted to try 58 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: a little bit of the food. She wound up staying 59 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: a lot longer because she really loved it, and that's 60 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 2: how the deal was sold. But yeah, we're great. Were 61 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: there a lot. My kids get to go there. 62 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: They're like, thank you Dad. I wondered where they want 63 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: to open next. They're like can we do why? 64 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: So? 65 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: How many field trips are there now? 66 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 2: There's four field trips. One in Harlem between hundred and 67 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred sixteenth Street and Lenox Avenue, one in front 68 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: of Columbia University, one a Rockefeller Center, one in the Atlantis. 69 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: Yeah that's good because there's one right near us at 70 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: Rockefeller Center. So that's a huge deal. And now you 71 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: can make your own rice bowl. 72 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: You can make your own rice bowl. You'd be really 73 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 2: knowing this stuff that we've. 74 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: Be I follow you because I pay attention. I was 75 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: actually on your show Just Eats with Chef Jaz and 76 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: learn how to make some chicken gizato. 77 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: I knew you were going to do that to me 78 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: because you can't you can never say the gisala whatever. 79 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: Since you helped me, I could say it right now, 80 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: and that is But you know, that is something that 81 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: I've been trying to work on because I'm never home 82 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: and I always make excuses for why don't cook more often? 83 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: Well, hold on, you text me that beautiful kitchen. 84 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: I barely used it, so I'm like, okay. 85 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: Were we going to cook in this kid? I mean 86 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: that kitchen makes is beautiful? 87 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: All right, Well, maybe you can send your soux chef 88 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: to come help me learn how to make some things. 89 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: You know. But but honestly, congratulations because that is such 90 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: a big deal. And I know that this field trip. 91 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: When I first met you, you were at Minton's. Minton's 92 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: is that how you say? At Minton's and you were 93 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: the head chef there. Yes, I was, and since then 94 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: you have definitely grown a lot. You also are now 95 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: the what is the title in ann Arbor at Blue. 96 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: Lama Lama Blue Lama Jazz Club and an Arbor, I'm 97 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: the culinary director. I took over the food program there 98 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: in ann Arbor. That's another place I want you to 99 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: come because you're always in Detroit. 100 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: Right and my I was in ann Arbor for a 101 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: wedding because my cousin went to University of Michigan. 102 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: It's such a beautiful place it is. 103 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: So I've been there like quite a few times, and 104 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: I've gone to speak at the university, and they definitely 105 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: need that there because every time I go out to 106 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: try to find something to eat, it's like Buffalo wild wings. 107 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right down the strip. Yeah. So the food 108 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: in a Blue Lama is Afro Caribbean. You can get 109 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: leeks yas out there. You can get jerk prawns. We 110 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: do a pineapple glaze ribbi, so it's a lot of flavor. 111 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 2: The jazz club is super beautiful. We bring in Grammy 112 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: Award winning talent, seventy five seats in the dining room, 113 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: twenty seats at the bar. Amazing bar program one of 114 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: my favorite cocktails. There is a pineapple kind of jul 115 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: Up that we love. 116 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: Let me tell you, if y'all happen to run into 117 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: Chef JJ at the barbie, will make you switch up 118 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: whatever it was that you were about to order. But 119 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: that's really dope because I also thought about earlier you 120 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: working at the jazz club in Harlem, and then now 121 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to do that in ann Arbor too. 122 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: And full circle, like I know how jazz Club's moving shake, 123 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean being at Menson's being I Seeco 124 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 2: back in the day the started my career was great 125 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: on the block one hundred and eighteen and Saint Nicholas, 126 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: so much history, Billy Holliday, you know, with Marcellas, so 127 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: many people. You know. The one thing that stands out 128 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: to me at Minton's was when John Baptiste played ooh 129 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: and this is before like all of the world. Yeah, 130 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: like if you were a jazz hagging you John Baptist, 131 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, who's the guy's playing down the middle of 132 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: the aisle with the I don't know whatever I called 133 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 2: the flute, but it wasn't the flute and it was 134 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: just amazing. He played for three nights who were sold out. 135 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: And that's when I really realized that jazz music is 136 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: really a foundation of a lot of things, and the 137 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: foundation of black culture. I mean, I grew up with 138 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: it in my household my dad. But watching John Baptiste, 139 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: he really inspired me to know, like, if you keep 140 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: believing in your craft, you could, you could become as 141 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: big as you want to become. And I look at 142 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: him today. 143 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched his documentary as well, and everything that 144 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: he's gone through, like with his family, with his wife 145 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: and all of that. So, oh man, this is so 146 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: dope to be able to see all of these things 147 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: that you've been doing. Every time I look on your 148 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: social media, like in a different place, you know, no, 149 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: But honestly, so you spent the whole summer in the Bahamas. 150 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: I spent two months in the Bahamas. Yeah, I was 151 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: in for two months. It was great. It was great 152 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 2: in the beginning, but then after a while it's like, Okay, 153 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: I got others, I got all this stuff to do. 154 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,119 Speaker 2: But it was such a big project, you know, working 155 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: with the team remotely. They're the management team coming here 156 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: to train me, sending down seven eight employees to train 157 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: the team there. It was a big lift. And the 158 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: goal for me is some people will never come to 159 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: New York to try Field Trip, right, some people will 160 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: never know me anywhere else. It's the only place they'll 161 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: know me. They they'll go to Atlanta's and the food 162 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: has to be good. Yeah, it does, right, So because 163 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: then they're like, Okay, dude, JJ's trash. Right, It's the 164 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: only place you're gonna remind So so I'm very hands on. 165 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: I'm like that into all the projects. I believe in 166 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: the food. Without the food, I'm nothing. 167 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: It's interesting because, like you said, you have to make 168 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: sure everybody's turning right because quality control is important. And 169 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 1: for you having started Field Trip, so is it people 170 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: can license that out and open other locations. 171 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: Is people can license it out, which is very different 172 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: than a franchise. 173 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: Explain that to me. 174 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: So anytime you go to like a big hotel, right, 175 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: and I'll use some you know, you see restaurants there. 176 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: Let's use Vegas as an example. Most restaurants in Vegas 177 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: are licensee deals. So you Vegas sees avoid the hotel 178 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: SE's avoid. They're looking for the best in class to 179 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: fill a space. I use Bobby Flay's example, because he 180 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: has so many restaurants in Vegas. Right, he has a 181 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: concept that they either love of the street side that 182 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: they're bringing inside the hotel, or they love you as 183 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: a chef or a person that you develop something with them. 184 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: You're licensing out your intellectual property. So you're licensed out 185 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: your name, anything else that falls underneath you, your recipes, maybe 186 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: your brand colors, everything else, and you're giving them the 187 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: right to operate it. And you work out a percentage 188 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 2: on top line sales. 189 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So they can't change the menu. It still 190 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: has to. 191 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you you put all these guidelines in that how 192 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: everything can work, how many times the men you can 193 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: get changed, who can change the menu, how it get 194 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: signed off on what they can do, how they can 195 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: do it, how many times you go there. It is 196 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: similar to a franchise e model, but when you hand 197 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: over the franchise ee, they're running it and you have 198 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: to really trust that person. If I'm like, if I 199 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: get an opportunity to go to Vegas, I know like 200 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: Vegas knows how to run restaurants. The same thing with Atlantis. 201 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: Lance has been running restaurants for fifty years, right with 202 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: some of the best chefs. So I trust them with 203 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: my brand because they're not going to hurt my brand 204 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 2: because that also is going to hurt them. I'm not af' 205 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: I'm not the lover of the franchise e model. Yet 206 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: people call me all the time from all over the country. 207 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: They want a franchise filter. It makes sense, Ohio, you 208 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: know all these places. But you got to be really 209 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: ready to let go. 210 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: Right because the control that you have, because imagine you 211 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: go to a field trip in Houston and it's and 212 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: now Keith Lee shows up righto, and then it ruins 213 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: the whole name of the brand. Because things like that 214 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: can happen, right, somebody has a bad experience, or let's 215 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: just say it's a restaurant where there's security at the 216 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: door and they're like, I couldn't get in if I'm racist, 217 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: and let all these other white people. And the next thing, 218 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, everybody's giving you bad reviews, bad reviews. You 219 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: have to really be careful, like who works. 220 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: You got to be really careful. Yeah, make me laugh 221 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: about the KEITHH. Lee thing, but because you know, I 222 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: really want to keep to pull up when he was 223 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: in when he was in New York, City. I hit 224 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: him like you know how to pull up to Fielter, 225 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: but like let me help you out right? 226 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think that was one thing that people 227 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: were like, who is suggesting. 228 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: I had these places for you to go to, and 229 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: like New York is in Mecca, So you got to 230 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: hit the high to loan the medium because everybody in 231 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: some regard in New York City is a family owned business. 232 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: That's his whole thing, right. 233 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: Where would you have told him to go? 234 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: I think he should have hit every borough. He should 235 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: have did Harlem, I mean Harlem's nott A borough, but 236 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: he should have did like Midtown, Uptown, Upper west Side, 237 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: Upper east Side. He should have went into Brooklyn. He 238 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: should I mean he went into Brooklyn. But I would 239 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: have told him to hit some some different spots, Okay, 240 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: I it. I might have told me. I probably have 241 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: told him some of my favorite places in New York City. 242 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: What are those? I'm curious. 243 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: I would have told him to go to East Harlem 244 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: to like a Cucci Frito spot, like old school Puerto 245 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: Rican spot on like one tenth and third Avenue, like 246 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: the fried all that, like fried pork skins, you know, 247 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 2: and banadas. That's what they call it. I would have 248 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: definitely told them to pull up to Melbourse. 249 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: All right, Melvins Classic. 250 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: Because it's a classic, right, or Sylvia's Classic. I would 251 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: have definitely told him to go deep in the Bronx. 252 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: We're in the Bronx. I'm not really sure. 253 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy because I really don't ever go eat 254 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: in the Bronx because I'm from Brooklyn, so it's so 255 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: far from me. 256 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: But but either Arthur Avenue or a pizza joint. You know, 257 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: there's so much there's so much history in the Bronx. 258 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: I would have told him to go to and then 259 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: you gotta come down like you also got to try 260 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: some of the best chefs, and some of the best 261 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: chefs are in New York. Yeah, absolutely, So why wouldn't 262 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 2: you pull up to Laberna den Right? Oh, I mean 263 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: you know how? Yeah, he had to sit through eleven 264 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: courses there. First of all, Erika would have not known 265 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 2: who he was. 266 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: Which is what he wants. Well, less people who don't 267 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: know who you are, they. 268 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: Wouldn't have cared, and they would have gave him the 269 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: best service. I think like also leaning into some of 270 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: that as well would have been cool. 271 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: When it's like for you especially not out. Can you 272 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: just make that call and go to like Tatiana's and 273 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: Carbone or do you just try to do things the 274 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: way that everyone else does it. 275 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: I try to do things everybody else does. 276 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: But sometimes it doesn't work out. 277 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: I do hit like Maria Carbone has set me up nice? 278 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: Right, Why wouldn't you hit him up? 279 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: But we go like way back like kids, like eighteen 280 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: years old, and I've watched him on the ground grind. 281 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I remember Teresa when it first that's small 282 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: Teresa when he first opened. And I think what he's 283 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: done is tremendous. That he's been able to keep food 284 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: at like a super high level and scale it. That's 285 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: unheard of, right. Tatiana's hard, though, Yeah, it is hard. 286 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: Tatiana's hard. I don't. I don't. I try not to 287 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: go through Kwami because I know, like so many people 288 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 2: hit him up. I try to go through all the 289 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: other people over there that I know. 290 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: Sometimes you're like yo. 291 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: I'm like yo, kwame, come on, man, help us out, Like, 292 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: let me get this because everybody's like like yo, I 293 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: don't want the five thirty table, Like can I get 294 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: the seven fifteen. 295 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: Well, you gotta ask, weay in advance, and sometimes you 296 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: could just show up and get in, you know. 297 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: But it's a beautiful thing though, Yeah it is. 298 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: I love that because for him to have that, uh, 299 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: to have tatianas in that location where he has it 300 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: is like unheard of. 301 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: Unheard But yeah, coca dot, no coat or coca dot. 302 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: That's what the fried chicken plase. Okay, everybody tell me. 303 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: I know those guys, so I haven't been there yet. 304 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: Oh we should go, but I don't know you. You are 305 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 2: you changing? You? Changing the way you the way you eat. 306 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: I eat some fried chicken now, that's the reason why 307 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: I still eat it with the cavear though on top, 308 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: not caviar. I would be like, don't put the caviar. 309 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: Does that bother you? When people are like I have this, 310 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: but take this out, I don't eat that. So changed this. 311 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: I'm past that in my career now. That's why we 312 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: have this build your own bowl at field Trip. That 313 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: was my whole team's idea. I didn't want to do it. 314 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: I was like, hey, I made this menu. It tastes 315 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: really good the way it is. Why should I let 316 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 2: people come in here and build their own but it's like, 317 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: why not. Yeah, so many people want control of the 318 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: way they eat, so that that's why we do it 319 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 2: at field Trip now and it's been a real success. 320 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 1: I love that. And now we also, by the way, 321 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: are doing the Wine and Food Festival. You're the one 322 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: that put me onto this, so I love this too, 323 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: because we've done the Miami Wine and Food Festival, the 324 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: New York City Wine and Food Festival, the Cookout, and 325 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: this is really your cur rated event. So let's talk 326 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: about this because I'm excited. It's in Brooklyn for the 327 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: first time ever, So not only is that easier for me, 328 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: but I just love the idea of having these events 329 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. 330 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, big up to Brooklyn. I think Brooklyn 331 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: has a Burrough's done a great job building it back 332 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: up right from a time that people weren't really paying 333 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: attention to Brooklyn. It has so much history. I remember 334 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: talking to Carmelo Anthony. He's like, yo, man, my hood 335 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: where I'm from. Everybody wants to live there. 336 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: Now, ain't from Queens Carmelo, Okay, just got to check. 337 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: I want to Carmelo know that. 338 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 2: But I think it's great. I mean, there's so much talent. 339 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 2: There's so much talent uh in Brooklyn, so many restaurants. 340 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: We're gonna be highlight so many people. But the cookout 341 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: is to celebrate Black excellence around food and now music. 342 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: And I'm so happy that you're involved with your voice 343 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: and your love of food and coffee right coffee. 344 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: We did the New York City, I mean, we did 345 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: the Miami Wining Food Festival, and we did the espresso 346 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: martinis with my coffee up list people with Lobo tequila. 347 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: That was amazing. 348 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: I only could drink too because after that I was 349 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: like super. 350 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: Wild right away. Yeah and listen, And that's how I 351 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: am an espresso martini too. My maximum is too. But 352 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: what I love about it because it's such a popular drink. 353 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: Now you could be feeling a little like sluggish, get 354 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: to an espresso martini and we back at it, baby 355 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: another six hours. 356 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go, but don't get us together because 357 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: of me, and you start drinking tequila. 358 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: I know, and then you're like, try this one, try 359 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: this one, try this one, and you know, nothing wrong 360 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: with sampling tequila. That's very fun. 361 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: That's also going to be great about the cookout is 362 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: that you can walk twenty five chefs. You can walk 363 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: around hit chefs you may know, chefs you don't know, 364 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: and it's going to represent all the black food culture. 365 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: And you don't really see that at festival, No. 366 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: You do not, especially not at the level that you 367 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: have this. And actually, my friend Jazmin who owns Jasmin's 368 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: and SAMR in the city, I met her at the 369 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: New York City Festival and since then I've been going 370 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,119 Speaker 1: to her restaurant. She was like, oh, I'm from you know, Jazmin's. 371 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: You have to come to the restaurant. And I met 372 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: her at that event and now I go there all 373 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: the time. And then they opened up some mir and 374 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: it's a French Caribbean cuisine restaurant, and that is like 375 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: my go to spot, you know. And it's right over here. 376 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: I didn't know they open it. That's a midtown right. 377 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tim forty sixtet. It's on Restaurant Road right by 378 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: Broadway where all the plays are. But it's like the 379 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: only two black owned restaurants they own both of them 380 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: on that block, and so that's a really yes restaurant road. 381 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: So that's a big deal for them to have that. 382 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: But they were actually at the New York City One 383 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: and Food Festival, and I met them there. I met 384 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: so many amazing chefs there and had an opportunity to 385 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: try so many things. So I just want to say, 386 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: anybody who is planning to come out, make sure you 387 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: say no diet for this particular day. If you're doing 388 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: some type of d tax just for one day, just 389 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: get off of it. 390 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: I recommend you exactly, like, eat a light breakfast, pull 391 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: up hungry, and I think you should get the early 392 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: bird ticket because that will allow you to hit everybody 393 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: before all the people come in. Yeah. 394 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: No, it was amazing, And like you said, it's not 395 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: just the food, it's also the drinks. And you guys 396 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: have like the top level I think Bacardi. Yeah, but 397 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: Caarti's presenting. And when I tell you, okay, I got 398 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: there early, I see what was there? Last year we 399 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: had a time. 400 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: We did have a time. Was there was there? Yeah? Yeah, 401 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: it was, it was. It was a good time. I'm 402 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: looking forward to this year that we got Freeway. 403 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: And Freeway's doing. Isn't he in the food space? 404 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: Is he? I don't know if he's in the foods, 405 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: but he really cares about the food. He really connected. 406 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: I connected him and Lee Schuger together, who's the founder 407 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: of the Food Festival. They both sit on a similar 408 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: organization together in different. 409 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Freeway doesn't last. You know what Freeway should bring 410 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: Beanie Siegul because Beanie segu has the food truck. Oh yeah, 411 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: he has a food truck. 412 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you think Beanie pull up outside with this. 413 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: You can see him pull up the food check that 414 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: would which is really dope. 415 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 2: Correct, everybody have to move to the side and Beanie 416 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: drives this food truck in now. 417 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: But okay, so Beanie Siego, I mean, I'm not Phanie. 418 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: So Freeway is gonna be there. 419 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: Freeway is going to be there, rev is going to 420 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 2: be there. 421 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: You're going to be I'm gonna be there. Yes. And 422 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: the music's fun, the food is amazing. 423 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 2: It's in Brooklyn, do amazing DJs and more people to come. 424 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I just want to say, like when last 425 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: year when I went, I bought like some of my 426 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: friends and at the last minute, everybody was hitting me 427 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: up like can you get me in? Can you get 428 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,479 Speaker 1: me in? Y'all get your tickets and support this amazing 429 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: event because it is something that really is unheard of. 430 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: It's the cookout. Chef JJ really care rates this whole event. 431 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: When we did the one in Miami, I met so 432 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: many amazing chefs there. I mean there were there were 433 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: things that I've never seen before because it's dessert also, 434 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: and I have quite a sweet tooth. 435 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: I remember that people were like, bring. 436 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: Everybody was bringing me so much. Check this, check this, 437 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm very polite, so I'm gonna finish it. 438 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna finish it. And I definitely did so. 439 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think. I think when if you're in New 440 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 2: York City and you're looking for something to do and 441 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I haven't really had that fun moment yet, 442 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 2: the cookout is going to give it to you. The best, 443 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: best in food, the best in music. You're gonna dance. 444 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: It's a cook out. You're going to be around amazing people. 445 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 2: You might meet somebody new, right, and it's for good calls. 446 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 2: With God's love we deliver. 447 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: But God's love we deliver. And the good thing is 448 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: you'll also discover some new restaurants. So when you go 449 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: there and sample everything, and it's a really low price 450 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: for the ticket to be able to get all the everything, 451 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: is free once you get inside, and it's going to 452 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: help opening you up to new restaurants like it did 453 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: for me. 454 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you just put me on two restaurants 455 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 2: side by side, Restaurant Row Black Midtown. That's amazing. 456 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so when you go to a Broadway play like 457 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: that's where we go right after now, also Simple Art 458 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: of Rice recipes from around the world for the Heart 459 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: of your Table, you know that's it. First of all, 460 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: love that book. It's a beautiful book. 461 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: Thank you. 462 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm big on cooking rice. And I actually, for some 463 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: reason people up here think I can't cook. Maybe it's 464 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: because I don't cook as frequently as I should, but 465 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: I certainly have been taking some advice from your book 466 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: because I love rice. And we had this conversation last time. 467 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: I feel like there's this this misconception that rice is 468 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: like if you're trying to diet or you want to 469 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: lose weight, not to eat rice. 470 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: But you you washing rice though, right. 471 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: Yes, of course you have to to. I got that 472 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: beautiful new kitchen and and I have the way that 473 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: my sink is set up. And I know this is 474 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: nothing to you, but to me, it's amazing. So the 475 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: way the sink is it's called the Galley sink, and 476 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: then it has all these like pieces that you could 477 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: put on. 478 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: It, the converter pieces yet in. 479 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: The middle, so it makes it so much easier for me. 480 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 2: Look at you with the galley sing Yeah, I. 481 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: Gotta start using it. You know, every time I see you, 482 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: I feel guilty, like because I haven't been cooking at home. 483 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna come. I'm gonna co through. I'm gonna 484 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: bring a sous chef. I'm gonna come through. 485 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: Okay, good herd to hear. Chef is gonna cook for 486 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: all of y'all. So come through, pull up to my house. 487 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna do this. But what's next for you? Because 488 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: you've done so much? I mean, you have the TV 489 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: show on Cleo TV that's been for what how many 490 00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: years now? 491 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: Five seasons now, five. 492 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: Seasons and I've been on there too. And then you 493 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: have the Field Trip restaurants. 494 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 2: Field Trip Restaurants. I have Blue Lama and Arbor. I 495 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: have bank Side right now. I wonder which is a 496 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: digital kitchen. There's a bunch of Brooklyn. It's a Southern 497 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: seafood I call it Southern Seafood scheck with a southern 498 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 2: seafood restaurant. 499 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: Wait, explain that to me? What is that? Bankside by 500 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: Chef JJ. It's a new concept. 501 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 2: Right under wonder so Won there's a digital kitchen with 502 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: some of your favorite chefs. You'll see Marcus Samuelson has 503 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 2: Street Birden there holding Andre's, Bobby Flay, myself and basically 504 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: there's thirty restaurants under one roof. It's a new way 505 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: to eat. It's owned by a gentleman named Mark Laurie 506 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 2: who owns a Minnesota Timberwolves. Okay, and we did a 507 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 2: concept together and it's making moves and waves around the 508 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: whole country. There's something Philly. There's some in west Chester, Connecticut. 509 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: I think for me, it's the fastest growing restaurant I've 510 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: ever seen in my personal life. Okay, they're popping up 511 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: one in Harlem coming one hundred twenty fifth Street. But yeah, 512 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: something I worked on with them for a year. You 513 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: get lobster rolls, you can get fried shrimp, you can 514 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 2: get what I think is the best fried fish sandwich, 515 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: Perry Perry chicken. 516 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 517 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, a little bit of spice. So yeah, there's 518 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: a bunch of Brooklyn. It's like I tell you the 519 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: nearest one by you, so we could send some to you. 520 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: Listen, not a problem. I read somewhere that spicy food 521 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,479 Speaker 1: helps you live longer. I just had a whole article 522 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: about that, you know. 523 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 2: I think good food just makes you live longer. Flavorful 524 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 2: food makes you live longer, you know. 525 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: I love spicy food. Some people say that they don't 526 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: like when the spice is overwhelming and you can't taste 527 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: the food. There's a good balance there. 528 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 2: I mean, that's how I use spice. I always use 529 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 2: spice for a balance. Like I want you to have 530 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: some spice, some acid, some sweetness, some saltiness. I don't 531 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: ever want to give you too much spice. I might 532 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: give you a super spicy hot sauce sweet so you. 533 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: Can put as smuss as you went on it. 534 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: Correct. 535 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: I like when my nose runs, I do. That's how 536 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: spicy I like my food. 537 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: That's how you like your jerk chicken. 538 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: I do. I like my jerk chicken super spicy. Where 539 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: people are like I can't eat this, and I'm like, no, 540 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: it tastes good to me. I want to ask you, 541 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: you do have a lot of friends in the business. 542 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: How competitive is it like what's the balance there when 543 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: it comes to super competitive because y'all are also cool 544 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: with each other, Like I see you and Marcus Samuelson 545 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: always being. 546 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: For me and Marcus me and Marcus was you know 547 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 2: when I was coming up, marcuss like hit me be 548 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: like yo, man, you're keeping me on my toes right now. 549 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 2: It's dope, right, And I was like, really because I look, 550 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: I look up to Marcus, so he's really paved the 551 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: way in this industry for a lot of all black chefs, 552 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: I feel, and but it is competitive. Listen, when we 553 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: coming to we're coming to an event together. You doing 554 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: the first course, I'm doing the second course. 555 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to leave with the best course right right. 556 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: We want the menu to be cohesive. But trust me, 557 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: I'm every chef there is like, yo, I'm trying to 558 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: put out the best food today. 559 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, is it like hip hop way to 560 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: be like some hate behind the scenes where there's probably. 561 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: Definitely some beef behind the scenes, chef some beef behind 562 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: the scenes. But I remember cooking at an event in 563 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 2: San Diego and it was like Danielle Blued, Nancy Silverton, 564 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 2: Thomas Keller, and myself, right and first of all, these 565 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 2: are like the giants of the industry. And Danielle's giving 566 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 2: me a lot of beef. I was making ox saleska. 567 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: He's like, JJ, you got to take it off the bone. 568 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not taking it off the bone. He's like, 569 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: you should take it off the bone and press exactly 570 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: like nobody eats oxtail like that. It's got to be 571 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 2: on the bone, Danielle. And Nancy's like, Danielle, let him cook, man, 572 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: let him good, let him do his thing. So the 573 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: event's going on, the event's coming up. I think I 574 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 2: want to go use the restroom or something. And Danielle 575 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 2: goes into the pot. No, she did not goes in 576 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: the pot. He tastes passing in around the room. 577 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: Say she took everything off the bone, okay. 578 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: And then he picks up the bone and Nancy's over 579 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: there looking at him with her camera and all the 580 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: oxtale gravy's dripping down his chin on his chef coat. 581 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: And then he sees me. 582 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: He's like, oh, this is good. 583 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, man, see But so like I think, also, 584 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 2: chefs have to stand their ground because people will try 585 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: to swear you because your artistry. Right, It's like you said, 586 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 2: with music, you see you see food differently, you hear 587 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: the beat different There's so many things going on different 588 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: And for me, I would never serve Axale off the bone. 589 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: Right ever, Yeah, I don't think we're used to that 590 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: in our coache. 591 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm maybe back in the day the season I 592 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 2: put it in some dumplings and I did excel dumplings. 593 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 2: But if I'm dropping you axl, it's gonna be on 594 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 2: the bone. It's gonna be really really good and flavorful. 595 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, that was my first moment of like feeling 596 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 2: the competitiveness or I'm gonna tell you what to do. 597 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't tell them that the chef how to 598 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: make the like Yo. 599 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 2: Come on, I got mad love of respect for you, Daniel, 600 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 2: But chill for a second now. 601 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: Can you also talk to me about this Goalkeepers twenty 602 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: thirty and what that is. 603 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we got tapped by the Bill Gates Foundation 604 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: over Climate Week to be a part of Goalkeepers and 605 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: with with what Goalkeepers is doing to trying to end 606 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: hunger or around the around on the globe, and they 607 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 2: used rice as the foundation. 608 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: Oh you're perfect for that. 609 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: So their team was like, oh my god, JJ serves 610 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: amazing rice here, nutritional rice here in New York. Let's 611 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: do tap that and do that with him and give 612 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: out rice bulls. Literally, we're right here by Lincoln Center 613 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: and anybody that walked by could get a rice bowl, 614 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 2: but they also had to give a ball to somebody 615 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 2: in need, okay, And we handed out tons of rice 616 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 2: bowls for two days, and then we also partnered up 617 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: with smaller organizations around New York City and kind of 618 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 2: are feeding people. So but it was an honor, like 619 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: I got to meet Bill Gates and also to be 620 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: a part of Yeah, I didn't wash my hand for 621 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 2: two days. 622 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: They showed there was a video they showed up like 623 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: Bill Gates just standing outside like in Times Square or 624 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: something like that that was. 625 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: He does these things from Times saw a video of 626 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: him like on the line ordering a burger. I'm like, 627 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: you just walk around like you were you were for 628 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: a lot of money, man. But yeah, it it really 629 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: made me feel like what I'm doing in food and 630 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: what I'm believing in is the right thing, because he 631 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: could call anybody right. 632 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: But the fact that people thought of you too, like 633 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: he does this amazing thing because, like I said, you're 634 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: a cookbook. The art of rice is definitely the standard 635 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: when it comes to how to make different rice dishes. 636 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: I ever brought my kids to hand out the food 637 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: outside the food truck. 638 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: Oh see, you got to teach them early. 639 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,239 Speaker 2: It's just teaching them early. And they were just they 640 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,239 Speaker 2: were in it. I was shocked. I was like, who, 641 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: who taught you guys how to talk to people like that? 642 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: That is so nice? 643 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 2: So yeah, but also I think that's the way is 644 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: the only way you're going to try to change your world. 645 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 2: You got to You got to bring your kids or 646 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 2: expose them to some of these things very early so 647 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: they can see what it is. What does climate week mean? 648 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: What does malnutrition mean? What do these things mean? Because 649 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 2: my kids live a little bit different even than how 650 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: I lived. 651 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: Okay, last thing I want to say is I don't 652 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: want to hear my ship say he didn't wash his 653 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: hands for two weeks, I mean for two days after 654 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: Bill Gates. He's like, now I did wash my hands, 655 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: and you also turned forty, So congratulations on that. That's 656 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: a big deal forty. Yeah, you know, because you're not 657 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: gonna make any of those lists anymore, Like under forty. 658 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 2: Masts. 659 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: Okay, good, So now you're gonna be on an under 660 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: fifty list. 661 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 2: No, I don't know. 662 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm out of the under forty list. 663 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 2: I'm excited to be forty. I think now I can 664 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: write maybe a memoir soon. 665 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: No, you know what, though, you've done a lot so far, 666 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: and I know that you have a lot more on 667 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: the way, but you could. You definitely could, because I 668 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: know your journey has uh it's been a long one. 669 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: I know it feels like you're older than what you are, 670 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: just based off of the accomplishments that you have. Because 671 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: if you look at the list of everything that you've 672 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: managed to do, you've done all of that under the 673 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: age of forty. That's a big deal. Yeah, So congratulations 674 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: to you on that. Let's all come out and celebrate, 675 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: okay at the New York City Wine and Food Festival, 676 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: because we are going to definitely toast to you when 677 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: we get out there, just for you curating this event, 678 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: for always paying it forward, always making sure other people 679 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: are involved, and being authentic and cook has some really 680 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: great food. 681 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: I'm doing jerk lamb ribs. 682 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't eat lamb, come on it. I know 683 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm doing it. 684 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 2: What about I'm doing some black rice. 685 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: I can do that. I love black rice. That's my 686 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: favorite type of rice. Black rice. I can do that. 687 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: I know you don't like salmon, right, I don't like it. 688 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: What else don't you like? 689 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: I can't. I only just don't like salmon. There's not 690 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 2: many things I don't like. The Other things I don't 691 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: like are like inerts. 692 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: Because I'm like the picky seated. Why don't you like salmon? 693 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 2: It's too fishy, way too fishy. 694 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: Okay, like salmon. I don't eat seafood at all because 695 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: it's all too fishy. 696 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: It's way too fishy. And also salmon is so farm 697 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: raised right now that there's a lot of salmon that 698 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: were consuming isn't good for us. Okay, So you know 699 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: it's a big thing for me at field trip that 700 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm trying to source the best salmon for everybody. 701 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: Because I feel like that's everyone's go to. 702 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: Like salmon, the salmon is to go to. But for me, 703 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: I would prefer arctic char or brook trout or over 704 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: or fluke or haddock. 705 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well you heard it from him first. 706 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: All right, Well listen again. That is going to be 707 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: happening October twentieth. It's in Brooklyn. Where can people get 708 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: tickets for the New York City Wine and Food Festival 709 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 1: for the cookout specifically. 710 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: I mean, just go to my go to chef JJ 711 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: on social media, click the link in the bio. I'll 712 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: take you right there, or go to New York City 713 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: Food and Wine Festival dot com. You get the tickets 714 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: right there. 715 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll be there. Guys can't wait for it. Thank 716 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: you so much, Chef JJ. You ain't bring food this time, 717 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: but we forgive you. 718 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: I'm I'm so sorry. I thought about it. I said no. 719 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: I told Daniel. 720 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: I said no. 721 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: Daniel's like, don't worry about it. 722 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: You said no. They be hating on me up here. 723 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. 724 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: I was going to bring you bank side this time. 725 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: Okay. Well oh okay, we like that. 726 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: I'll say come here next time for lunch. 727 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: All right. Well, thank you, thank you for everything that 728 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: you've been doing so innovative. Congratulations on it all. All right, 729 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: it's way up