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Speaker 2: November seventeenth, two thousand and twenty five. And as you

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Speaker 2: as we recap UFC three twenty two in full plethora

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Speaker 2: and come at you on all things, Jake Paul AJ

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Speaker 2: have you seen this shit? A lot to talk about BC?

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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell right here from them Hartford Suburbs shortly be

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Speaker 2: talking to DC's own Luke Thomas. I guess the the

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Speaker 2: the Engines claim him as well, you know, does he though?

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Speaker 2: Is it reciprocal? We'll get into that as well in

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Speaker 2: this show. How about UFC three twenty two on Saturday

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Speaker 2: at MSG, A little bit of that magic was back

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Speaker 2: him and her got it on. No, they didn't, all right.

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Speaker 2: You can imagine what it'd be like if they did. Though. Wow, Hey,

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Speaker 2: the welcome? Welcome to morning combat?

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Speaker 4: Let's go?

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Speaker 2: Uh we stopped Laate? Still here the bang though, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. You saw a big bang jang in the

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Speaker 2: I wasn't even mad at the grappling. It was awesome,

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Speaker 2: all right. Dylan Danis got cuffed on my laptop similar

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Speaker 5: I think I got a dead wrong here in real time,

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Speaker 5: wasn't that? Izzy? Joel Romero? March twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong, I'm wrong, You're right, romero Isy.

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Speaker 3: We were in Vegas for two seventy six.

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Speaker 3: Were you there on fight night? Yes, sir, they had

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Speaker 3: It was nice. It's still I mean, how did they

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Speaker 3: It honestly doesn't make sense to me, because, as everyone

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Speaker 3: get back after that Dubois terrible loss. Sure, but nevertheless

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Speaker 2: So he's like, well, well, no one's worried about those, Okay,

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Speaker 3: the likelihood that this would be violent to the point

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Speaker 3: Only thing I can think of that makes sense for

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Speaker 2: I mean part of what he's always done Logan too,

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Speaker 3: Okay, But they're swimming with sharks in cages, and then

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Speaker 2: Just the fact that he neutralizes offense on the feet

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Speaker 2: They don't care about it. I asked Islam this week

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Speaker 3: as a consequence, which I think is a huge mistake.

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00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 3: Recall thirty four years of age, bumps up fifteen pounds

437
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 3: against a JDM who looked like a million dollars against

438
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 3: a very good Balal Mohammed, what appeared to me to

439
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 3: be in phenomenal He looks physical, Oh my god, hell yeah,

440
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,400
Speaker 3: he had striations in his shoulder.

441
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 2: JDM was caught. I mean, the packs, everything was rocket.

442
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 3: He looked to be in tremendous physical condition, and not

443
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 3: only did Islam quite literally beat him everywhere. I want

444
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 3: to make a note of this, and I'm sure everyone

445
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 3: saw it. There was some chatter about it after the fact.

446
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,959
Speaker 3: He demoralized him. He took his spirit from him in

447
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 3: this fight when the odds were the toughest up a

448
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 3: weight class to do that against a guy at twenty

449
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 3: nine who was the reigning, deserving, reigning champion, and to

450
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 3: take away his fighting spirit he looked like at the end.

451
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 3: To his credit, he fought off everything, including submissions late

452
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 3: into the fifth. I'm not saying that he quit, That's

453
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 3: not what I'm saying.

454
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 2: Oh, he used all that energy to fight it all,

455
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: but his.

456
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 3: Body wanted him to. He had to rally and steal

457
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 3: his mind because Islam was taking everything from him. Dude,

458
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 3: motherfucking Islam is so special and I do believe that

459
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 3: this kind of win is something that Habib simply does

460
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 3: not have.

461
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think he's got it, and we've already

462
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: said it for years, but Islam's got a more well

463
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 2: rounded game than Habib. He's twenty. He's proved to twenty

464
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 2: eight in one with his victory. Eight now a two

465
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 2: division cham in sixteen consecutive wins since that one fight

466
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: ten years ago against Adriana Martinz that he walked into

467
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: a hook and now he calls it the big mistake

468
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: that I made, and boy has he made up for that.

469
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: It did take him a while to get elite foes,

470
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,919
Speaker 2: but then once he did the run that he's currently

471
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: on right now, the opponents available to him moving forward

472
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 2: in the sport's deepest division, he really does have a chance.

473
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: Dane is not, you know, talking out of his ass postfight.

474
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 2: He really does have a chance to approach here. Usman

475
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 2: was in the same spot when he won fifteen in

476
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 2: a row and was number one pomp for pound. He

477
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 2: does have it. Like look, we both say he's number

478
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 2: one pomp for pound. Now you eclipse Morob and Ilia

479
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,360
Speaker 2: with that. Now it could they could flip flop, fight

480
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 2: to fight until they fight each other. But but I

481
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: think this is the best.

482
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 3: I think what Islam did to JDM and what it

483
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 3: meant to beat him this way means more to me

484
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 3: than Ilia and the way he beat Charles at this

485
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 3: particular time.

486
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Speaker 2: I agree with you.

487
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 3: Also one more point, getting back to Vulcan. Just think

488
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 3: about that Vulk when he bumped up to get a

489
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 3: second belt, had to fight fucking Islam.

490
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 2: And now he wants to fight him.

491
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 3: At one seventeen yeah, and meanwhile, you had to bump

492
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 3: up and fight Charles. Charles is very good, but that's

493
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 3: not the That is in no way the same kind

494
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 3: of task Islam as your will.

495
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: To further illustrate Islam's greatness, here's the street. Here are

496
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 2: the streaks that he snapped to get to where he

497
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: is right now. The wind streak Snapcher eleven fight win

498
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 2: streak for Charles Olivera at the very peak of his game,

499
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 2: you know, a Hall of Fame turn for Olivera, a

500
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 2: twenty two fight run for the great Volkanovski eighteen. People

501
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 2: forget Jack Della lost his first two pro fights been

502
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: on an eighteen fight win streak. Yes, didn't get to

503
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 2: the title through the traditional path of beating killer contender

504
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 2: after killer contender, but what he did against Blal showed

505
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: who he really was, what he tried to do in

506
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: defense here, I mean, how much let's talk about the

507
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 2: jack side of it. How much are you disappointed in Jack?

508
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: Dana sounded a bit afterwards like he thought he would

509
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: do more. We were saying that about whiley were saying

510
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 2: that about JDM, Right.

511
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 3: I do have a question. There was so much grimacing

512
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 3: on the floor. Did he I'm not talking about the leg.

513
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 3: Did he have some other kind of injury or did

514
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 3: he sustain any other kind of injury during the course

515
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: of that bout? Didn't you see him like wincing in pain?

516
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 3: And again, part of that was probably frustration. I don't know,

517
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 3: so I want to say, we have to wait and hear.

518
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 3: Could there have been some kind of mitigating circumstance perhaps,

519
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 3: I mean, on the one hand, like what worked the submission?

520
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 3: Defense certainly saved him, remember the levels to fighting or

521
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 3: survived defend attack. He never really got out of defend.

522
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 3: He certainly was never I mean, I guess the first

523
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 3: opening seconds of the first round he kind of came

524
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 3: after him, but otherwise that was it. I would say

525
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: I am a little disappointed in him. I thought that

526
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 3: he'd have a little bit more readiness or some of

527
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 3: the things that Islam would be able to do. But

528
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 3: I also feel like.

529
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 2: I feel like Ddpach from high it really does. He

530
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: really feels like the same feeling we should.

531
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Speaker 3: Do you want to talk about that the comparisons to

532
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 3: that fight.

533
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he was way more accomplished coming

534
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 2: in than JDM was, but they both succumbed to the

535
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 2: same thing one hole in their game, which in the

536
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: past they've been able to not make it a hole.

537
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: When you find that key that can stows through anything

538
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 2: and turn it, you're fucked. And there he used every

539
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: ounce of his recuperative and toughness to be able to

540
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,959
Speaker 2: hold off being finished.

541
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Speaker 3: I have a video coming out about this. I haven't

542
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: I was trying to do it at four am this

543
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: morning and I couldn't finish it. But the reality is, again,

544
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 3: if people didn't like it, I disagree, but I understand

545
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 3: people have different priorities like kiss.

546
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just exactly I mean.

547
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: Some people like bullshit and it's that's just that's life.

548
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: But the reality is, by the this is the difference.

549
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 3: The key thing you have to understand is underneath Islam.

550
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 3: First of all, Islam never really hit the kinds of

551
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 3: positions and could camp out in the way that Hamza did.

552
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 3: Homsa was able to immediately go to side control and

553
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 3: just simply hold it for long stretches of the fight,

554
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 3: not just rounds. You didn't get that with Jack. Jack

555
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 3: was fighting Islam for every single inch of space, yes,

556
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 3: which is why Islam was for the most part only

557
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: ever in half guard because he couldn't really fully ever

558
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: pass JDM wouldn't let him. The point I'm trying to

559
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 3: make is the positions were not neutral BC, but they

560
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: were closer to neutral than what you got with DDP,

561
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: in part because Jack made it that way, and Jack

562
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: was much much squirmier underneath. He was trying buggy chokes,

563
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 3: he was trying grammy reversals, he was trying you name it.

564
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 3: He was constantly fighting for frames, he was constantly trying

565
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: to get to his side. The problem is, BC, he

566
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 3: would get to his side, Islam would pin his own

567
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 3: arm to him with his body weight, or begin to

568
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: separate it and look for a Kimora or some other

569
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 3: thing where now he has to go back down. So

570
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 3: he was making him pick between a set of offensive dilemmas. However,

571
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 3: to the extent that that fight stalled out, which is debatable,

572
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 3: but to the extent that it did, it's because if

573
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 3: you've never rolled before, if you allow someone to do

574
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 3: the beginning stage of let's say, going bottom to top

575
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: and you don't address it, the bottom falls out very quickly,

576
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: so you have to stay on top of it, break

577
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: a grip, place your weight somewhere whatever it ends up being.

578
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 3: Otherwise it just goes completely haywire.

579
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 2: Very quickly, so the bottom drops out.

580
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 3: So the point trying to make is Islam having to

581
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 3: cover in that way. It might feel a little DDP humsiadish,

582
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 3: but I think there's a much better that to me,

583
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 3: if a guy underneath is very squirmy and hard to hold,

584
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: I can appreciate what it means for a fight to

585
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 3: not necessarily be exciting to order to maintain top position.

586
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 3: That's a little different than DDP getting absolutely thrashed and

587
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 3: having no aing.

588
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: And the missing link in this analysis of how Islam

589
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: was able to do that is moving up in weight,

590
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: and when he says pre fight, I feel like I

591
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: was only fighting at seventy to eighty percent of myself

592
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: at one fifty five because of the hard weight cut.

593
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: I think he kind of proved it because Luke, there's

594
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 2: been a working theory that you can wrestle three rounds

595
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 2: at the highest level in the UFC. But that's it.

596
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: Remember when Habib was throwing out, you know, I quinto

597
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: around at UFC two twenty three, but then the championship

598
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,719
Speaker 2: rounds had to strike more. We've seen it so many times,

599
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 2: Sean Sean Brady told me this week. When I asked him,

600
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 2: I was like, can you go three rounds? He never

601
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: shot against Morales. We'll get into that, but I was like,

602
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 2: if you wanted to raged off for three rounds, can

603
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 2: you do that in this type of fight? Yes, for

604
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 2: five rounds. Islam did this, and he talked afterwards about

605
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: this is what happens. While I'm not sacrificed myself. That's scary.

606
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: That's scary. It's going to force everyone to change their

607
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: game against him.

608
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: Islam is arguably, I mean, he's the probably the only

609
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 3: mitigating factor here is age, but based on the way

610
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: he looks, he might be better at seventy than fifty five.

611
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: And that's kind of insane.

612
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: It's a killer list of opponents. We'll get to very shortly.

613
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: Here.

614
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: First is coach Javier Mendez breaking down what happened to

615
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: JDM because of Isie's greatest or Islam's greatest.

616
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: I wasn't one hundred percent sure on Jack's speed, but

617
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 3: when I saw it right away with the first jab,

618
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: the first punch Jack threw, I said, damn, he doesn't

619
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: have the speed to keep with us. So I ken't

620
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: yelling this and this, this mat at door style. Islam

621
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: knows Mata door style. I thought him that many many

622
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: years ago against Aaviy Ramos, So he knows that style

623
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 3: really well. The only heir we ma on the clinch,

624
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: you know, because when the clitch he got, he got

625
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: hit really quickly. He had to deliver the off real quick.

626
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 3: So after that we said no more knees. I said

627
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: no more nees. We all said no more nees.

628
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: No more knees on that ship. Here's Ian Geary though,

629
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: coming down on jdm's performance.

630
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 6: Wait, this is where the fight sides. Can he stay

631
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 6: down or can he get back on? I did not

632
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 6: think this was gonna be as easy as it is now.

633
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 6: It's just a question of is Jack going to break

634
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 6: three rounds of domination by Islam. So far, Jack doesn't

635
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 6: look like he knows how to fight. This is a

636
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 6: great night for me. Islam's gonna win. I want that fight.

637
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 6: Jack loses, Leon gets sparked. The only way this gets

638
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 6: better is if Jacksonahs goes the other side of his face.

639
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 6: Look at the face and he's the champion right now.

640
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 6: Look at that broken He clearly doesn't want to fight

641
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 6: coach shout of talent and look at him, he's about

642
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 6: to cry, grab his leg, take him down, and that's

643
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 6: the fight guarantee. Is Slam Hey done, came over, say

644
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 6: let him know how I take up Jack Delamottetlanta versus

645
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 6: Collage patches. That's what's next, em and Islan.

646
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the future. This was a

647
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: huge showcase night for the welterweight division. I love the

648
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: match making across all three fights on there, and we'll

649
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: get to the other two, but this elevated the division,

650
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,479
Speaker 2: made you want to see everyone against Islam moving forward.

651
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: That voice of iing Gary matters because he's got former

652
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: Champla Mohammed next Saturday in the cutter in the co

653
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: main event that could decide the next title contender. You've

654
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: got Carl's protest and you've got Michael Morales who had

655
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: breakthrough stoppages on this card. You've also got Kamaro Usman lingering,

656
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: and the idea is that Islam wants this matchup to

657
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: add such a legendary name to his resume. You've got Usman,

658
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: who's coming off of it a very good win against contender,

659
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: and Joaquin Buckley. But had a stretch before that in

660
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: which he's taking high level losses and not really fighting

661
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: at welterweight, yet he's ranked in the top five. I

662
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: don't want to ask you first who should be or

663
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: who will be next? Who is the one welterweight right now?

664
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: And I think you can throw to Poria in this

665
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: discussion if you want to make it a larger one.

666
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: Who has the best chance of being that version of Islam?

667
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: To be honest, I don't think any of them have

668
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: a very good chance after cling Shafka, including Shaka, I mean, Schofcot,

669
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 3: I've been very high on, but he's been gone. He

670
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: missed the entire year.

671
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: I do you think he tweeted? Do we have a

672
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: quick look at what he tweeted?

673
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: Uh Aguard? What do we get there? Yeah, here we go.

674
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 3: Congratulations to Islam, excellent performance. But the real challenge at

675
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: one seventy isn't Who is the.

676
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: Real challenge at one seventy four much?

677
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 3: I don't really think there is one. I can't believe

678
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: I'm saying that so quickly. But to do that to

679
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: Jack the way he did, I mean, Block couldn't even

680
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: do a fraction of that, And Islam made it look effortless.

681
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: I don't think that there's anyone in that division. You

682
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: might say Kamaru, who can wrestle and obviously can strike

683
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 3: a little bit, did well to at least hang on

684
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: and then push back against Hamzat fair enough. That might

685
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: be one of the more competitive bouts you could get.

686
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: I do think the Rockmanov bout is potentially one of

687
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: the more competitive bouts you could you could get.

688
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: Would you be upset at Usman? Would you be upset

689
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: at the Some people are saying that I don't think

690
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: he's already ducking as new champion of the deepest division.

691
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: He is ducking if you want, Okay, But yes, I

692
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: mean it's a huge pay day for Ali. We know that.

693
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, Holly reps both guys. It'd be a good pay

694
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: day for him, I'm sure. But the reality is, as

695
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: Oscar was telling us last week, it's also the case

696
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: that the UFC really wants Usman to be in that role.

697
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: So I tend to think that might be a foregone conclusion.

698
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: I'll leave open the possibility BC, the possibility that if

699
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: Gary goes in there and absolutely just dunks on belall,

700
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: which I don't expect. But let's say that he does.

701
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: Maybe he could leap frog, but to me, the toughest

702
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: challenges look like something around the neighborhood of Usman, Rochmanov

703
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 3: and Gary and I'd put Poria at seventy at the

704
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 3: very very end of that list. You how really, I

705
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: can't believe due, How could you watch that fight and

706
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: think To's chances got better because of fifty five when

707
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: Islam is drained a little bit different balls.

708
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: Okay, let's say it right now. Islam is not cutting

709
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: to one fifty five again, nor should he ever. Any

710
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: talk about the Taporia fight has to be about the

711
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: three division champions.

712
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: It's pointless.

713
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's pointless.

714
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: I just former forty five is gonna be that fucking guy.

715
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: This dude doesn't act like a former forty five. Okay,

716
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: he's acting like he's still a forty You know, the

717
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: escalation of Connor McGregor. In a lot of ways, I

718
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: get what you're saying.

719
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: Here.

720
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: Here's Taporia after the fight taking issue with GDM and

721
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: putting his name into the mix to tweet it, says

722
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: Jack and Ilia twiped twiped Jack needs an entire camp

723
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: dedicated just to wrestling. What a disappointment of a champion.

724
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: You should go to Georgia to learn something. He's not

725
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: talking about Big Chicken, Islam. You need something you can't

726
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: train emotion. You're the most boring thing in this game.

727
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: Every day, I'm more certain I put you to sleep.

728
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: We have the reaction here from Islam ha Mahachev to

729
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: fate to the idea of facing Iliataporia next Pooria.

730
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw his tweet he said

731
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 4: you're like the most boring fighter in the UFC or

732
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: something like that. I know you said to ask us

733
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: smart after the fight up media day, can you give

734
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 4: us your full thoughts on a fight with him?

735
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: Now?

736
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 5: No injury, not think. I don't feel any pains.

737
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: I'm ready.

738
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 5: Who is going to be next?

739
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 8: Let's do this and I will make it easy.

740
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: I do love that attitude of like whoever, whoever they want,

741
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 2: and normally I don't love that because I want guys

742
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: to fight for their position. But this is the best

743
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: fighter in the sport, angling toward the idea of entering

744
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: the go conversation being like, whoever bring that shit to me?

745
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: He said he wanted the White House afterwards. What percentage

746
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: is the UFC, not looking from a meritocracy standpoint, not

747
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: looking from which division is logjam, just looking from we

748
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: have this white house card. We can go a number

749
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: of ways. What if we went in one versus two

750
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: pound for pound and actually did this thing, but at

751
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 2: one seventy for the three division element, So you make

752
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: this one of the biggest fights of all time. What

753
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: percentage do you believe the UFC pulls.

754
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 3: This trigger fifty to fifty, fifty to fifty.

755
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: It's not the right fight.

756
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: Looking at the division, having Islam on that card seems

757
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: like a foregone conclusion based on timing and all the other.

758
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: Predominal Dana agreed this week that you don't need an American.

759
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: We're not doing a USA versus the world.

760
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: You know, Dana said explicitly, it's not USA versus the world.

761
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: It's just let's build the best card that we can.

762
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: Having Islam seems like that's a must, right, Okay, So

763
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: that's there. I think you could get away with them

764
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 3: doing Islam versus Kumaru or even Islam again, let's say

765
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: it's Ian Gary or something like that. I think you

766
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 3: could get away with it. But I think that they're

767
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 3: probably gonna put in their back pocket, the Taporia one.

768
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: But dude, the matchmakers have to be looking at that

769
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: and saying Toaporia's got not a great shot, not a

770
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: great shot. After this I did, I can't believe it's

771
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 3: like Taporia' is like main Booster. I have to convince

772
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: you guys at fifty five. To me, I feel very

773
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 3: differently about it.

774
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: But as seventy, well, he does have knockout power, but

775
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: maybe that wrestling size difference is more than I'm realizing it.

776
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 3: One Islam barely gets hit. His entries are fucking light.

777
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: He can advantage have on the hand.

778
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 3: Speed, well, he'll have an advantage, for sure, he'll have

779
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: an advantage. But I mean, dude, Islam is gonna be

780
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: shooting low and fast.

781
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: So you're saying Islam overperformed to the level that he

782
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 2: actually made this fight not viable unless you did that

783
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: one fifty five, which again, he has no reason to

784
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: cut down here.

785
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: If you had told me on Friday, Jack's gonna do nothing, Yeah,

786
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 3: Jack's gonna do nothing.

787
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 2: Thought Islam would fight his way out of trouble.

788
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly that Jack would be a tough challenge

789
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: to be curious to see exactly how Islam navigated it.

790
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 3: Islam looked like he was Islam almost looked like he

791
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 3: had fucking pity on the guyof got's a big one's

792
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 3: that's kind of like the wild card.

793
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: Garry would be fun. There's there certain elements to that.

794
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 3: But I even dud Hamza going back to seventy Homsa

795
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: going to two o five, and I don't know if

796
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: you can even make that.

797
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: I was talking is sick fight Brandon Why. I sat

798
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 2: next to me from CBS Sports, my uh my editor,

799
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: and we were talking like that's that might actually be

800
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: the fight if you if you threw rankings, divisions, championships

801
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: out of the way. Islam versus Tamaya is because.

802
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: Right, because now you know, verifiably, without a shadow of

803
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: a doubt, he's got another wrestler on his hands. Because

804
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 3: I know what everyone's gonna say. They're gonna say Allah

805
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 3: started as a wrestler and a grappler, which is true,

806
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: but I don't think that anyone would say A at

807
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: seventy that's gonna matter as much as it would for

808
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: Hams had to go back down and hamso's a better

809
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: pure wrestler than to Poria.

810
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: Anyway, Islam's a he already was, but I mean he's

811
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: a pay per view brand. He is a star, and

812
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: he got there with the help of the of the

813
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: of the bump, of course, of being Hibeb's guy. But

814
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: he's really escalated that in every possible category. I really

815
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: feel like that building was filled with definitely way Lee fans,

816
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 2: but that was filled with with uh Islam fan.

817
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 3: You got the loudest pop.

818
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: I mean, Pooria in GSP got pretty big pops from

819
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,959
Speaker 2: the crowd there. That brawl got a big pop.

820
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 3: So another guy, look at what fucking Poorier did to Islam.

821
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: He fucked up his face. Remember he had him bleeding.

822
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: He slashed his face open in that fifth round, survived

823
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: all the way before that was putting some decent shots

824
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 3: on him. Consider if Dustin Poier did much better against

825
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 3: Islam than JDM ever did. It hard to believe, but true.

826
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 2: This is great. All right, we have one more bit

827
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: on this topic to talk about, and it's the Craig

828
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: Jones side. We were kind of giving Craig Jones superpowers

829
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: being in jdm's corner that it was going to lead

830
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: to an ability for Jack Dela Madeleina to get up

831
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: and get up often. He has been in the corner

832
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: before when Volk took on Islam. He's been the celebrity

833
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: higher for a few different guys here. But his magic

834
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: seems to have run out. And this topic came up

835
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: when Mahachev talked after the fight. And you know when

836
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: we scanned his words, it was enough spicy enough to

837
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: bring in our friends from Quervo. Yes for shots fired.

838
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: Let's go shots fired, brought to you by Cuervo. Now

839
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: is a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila.

840
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: Here's the champ.

841
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 4: What did you say to Craig Jones after I told

842
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 4: him you're Judy, so you have to come to Augistan for.

843
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 8: Two three years?

844
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: What did he say?

845
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 9: He started laughing, I come Dagistan.

846
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 2: Two three years? Fix everything?

847
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

848
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: Is the is the magic of our friend Craig Jones gone?

849
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 2: Or is it still situational based on the I mean.

850
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 3: You can't have it both ways, right. You can't say

851
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: that Vulk performed so well against Islam in their first contest,

852
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: uh and then say well JDN performed poorly and so

853
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: therefore Craig stuff doesn't work. Greig stuff worked really real

854
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: well the first time for Vulk. For Vulk, you know,

855
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: there was a ton of stuff that Vulk took from him,

856
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: very specific Craig Jones things, and it worked quite well.

857
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 3: So I mean we we really need to say, like,

858
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 3: what exactly is Craig's influence and you know, can he

859
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: get these guys over the hump? No, We'll look what

860
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: the fucking guy they're up against.

861
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: I mean, what is his influence on the sex trade?

862
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: It's like probably submit, yeah, yeah, But the point I'm

863
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 3: trying to make is, dude, like, look at who he's

864
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 3: fucking fighting. He's fighting islam Mankachev, the very best guy

865
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: in the world. Yes, Craig could train me all my life.

866
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 3: I'm still not fucking beating that guy. And I recognize

867
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: that profighters are much better. But I'm saying there's a

868
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: limit to how much one guy can do for another

869
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: one when yes, could a different area of focus BC

870
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 3: have maybe made this a little bit closer BC? Yes,

871
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: of course, the answer is yes, but not enough to

872
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 3: fucking win. Look at how far apart JDM is from Islam.

873
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 3: There was a vast ocean of difference. Craig no Craig,

874
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 3: no trainer in the fucking sport is gonna make up

875
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: that difference. It doesn't exist, It's not possible. So the

876
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 3: point I'm trying to make is, how can you look

877
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: at what Craig's influence has been on broader jiu jitsu,

878
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: sport jiu jitsu and in particular guys like Vulk, and

879
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 3: the demonstrable difference that it had, and then say, well,

880
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: JDM couldn't do shit with it, so therefore it's bad.

881
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: I recognize from a public perception standpoint that the Craig

882
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: stock is probably gonna deflate a little bit after this.

883
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 3: I get that, I see it, and maybe there's something

884
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: to be said for that, But to me, it's like

885
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: the argument is he was doing a little bit too

886
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: much jiu jitsu to counter Islam and not enough wrestling,

887
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: and I think there's something to that, But that also, Dude,

888
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: for example, show me Long Island, Luke, show me how

889
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 3: JDM was defending strikes. Show me show me physically how

890
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,479
Speaker 3: it would it looked like. I can see you right

891
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: constantly here, dude, against a guy who's got a low

892
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 3: lightning level change, This is kryptonite. This is kryptonite. So

893
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: could he have done better? Related to that, certainly there

894
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 3: is something to be said for that, but the fact

895
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 3: that he survived against Islam, honestly is a big feather

896
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: in the cap.

897
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: To Craig, Joe, I don't disagree with you.

898
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, if you didn't know exactly where to

899
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 3: put your body from the side to the back, how

900
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: to hand fight where your shoulders need to be, Islam

901
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 3: is fucking putting you out, period. So the fact that

902
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: the fact that Jack hung on is long, to me

903
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 3: is very impressive. Obviously, I'm a Craig booster. Biases on

904
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: the table. I think he could have wrestled better. Maybe

905
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 3: a different coach can get that out of him fair enough.

906
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: But the idea that Craig's ideas are bad, no, They're very,

907
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 3: very good, and they're ahead of their time. As far

908
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 3: as I'm concerned.

909
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 2: Of all the boosters, your favorite is Creig.

910
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: So what you're saying probably, yeah, Greg.

911
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 2: All the vaccines in your life along an look quickly

912
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: over to you look use the word ocean, which I

913
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: know is one of your favorite Pearl Jam songs. But

914
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 2: I would like to quickly get your take on what

915
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: should be next for the great Islam. Maha Jev is

916
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: how disappointed would you be in Usman? And does he

917
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: even have a chance.

918
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 5: So before this fight, I was very disappointed in Usman.

919
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 5: I heard a few people saying that, and I was like,

920
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 5: come on, man, we're really going to do that with

921
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 5: how hot welterweight is. Right now, that being said, I

922
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 5: feel like it's got to be either Usman or Shavkat

923
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 5: at this point, Like as far as who can even

924
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 5: beat Islam, Like, I just I don't see Michael Morales

925
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 5: beating him. I don't see Carlos prot This beating him.

926
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: Oh you're saying because Usman would beat the other guys, he.

927
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 5: I just I don't know. I want to point out

928
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 5: one things him.

929
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: Oh Gil, go ahead back, let's talk to Australia.

930
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 5: One thing about JDM is I was shitting on the

931
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 5: guy all week. I said he had no chance in

932
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 5: this fight, and that did kind of play out. But

933
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 5: I will say I was super impressed with JDM in

934
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 5: this fight. Maybe other people weren't. I was actually like,

935
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 5: oh shit, look at him on the ground, like he's

936
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,959
Speaker 5: defending all these submission attempts. I actually think the Craig Jones.

937
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: Factor was huge.

938
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 3: Yes, I totally agree.

939
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 5: I think he probably gets finished in the first three rounds.

940
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 5: If Craig is not, yeah, I mean one more time.

941
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 5: He finished Paria, a black belt in jiu jitsu. He

942
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 5: finished Charles Lavera, a black belt in jiu jitsu. Craig,

943
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 5: excuse me, keep saying, Craig, I apologize.

944
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 3: JDM hung on there, and I'm telling you, if you

945
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: against a guy as skillful as Islam, that is very,

946
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: very difficult to do. But the notion could a different

947
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 3: coach get a better wrestling, you know, response out of him.

948
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: I'm open to the idea, absolutely for sure. The idea

949
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 3: that Craig's ideas don't work is complete horseship from people

950
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: who can't even tell you what Craig's ideas even fucking are.

951
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: I can. That's why I know they work.

952
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck you, quoth the Raven never nevermore. Please, Hey,

953
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: let's talk about timing in time. It's great time to

954
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: be JDM over the weekends or maybe Islam. Actually sorry

955
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 2: about that. But when I'm talking about time, I'm talking

956
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: about now, because now as a good time as ever

957
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: to remember where Tequila's story truly began. Get Ready here

958
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: in seventeen ninety five, Quervo invented tequila, and since then,

959
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 2: all Quervos done to stay true to its roots. Same family,

960
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: same land, same passion. Two hundred and thirty years Laterquerevo's

961
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 2: right here and every pore and every margarita in every celebration,

962
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: in every MK pregame preview. So enjoy the tequila that

963
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: started at all Quervo, the tequila that invented tequila. Proximoquervo

964
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 2: dot com. Please drink responsibly, Luke. We are fresh off

965
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 2: of our UFC three twenty two pregame preview with Oscar

966
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: Willis of Oscar Wild Mac Life Fame. Mixed reviews from people,

967
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: but overall it was a strong performance. Man mixed because

968
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: he can you know, he's aggressive. He's very aggressive in nature.

969
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: People were mixed on Oscar Willis.

970
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: I think, just on some of his content, but I thought,

971
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 2: you know, he brought the energy. He brought.

972
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: He certainly brought the injergy. Someone told us that the

973
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 3: problem was he's actually more MK than we are.

974
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 2: So it makes us look l Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

975
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, of course, I'm willing to eat

976
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: roaches and jack off at the bus stop. I'm like,

977
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: we just we just joke about that. We don't actually

978
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 3: want to do that.

979
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very much. We do appreciate his contributions

980
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: as well. Thank you so much. Follow his work there,

981
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: Oscar Willis follow yourself some querfo. All right, let's get

982
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: back into a topic. Number two addresses the co main

983
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: event of UFC three twenty two on Saturday, the historic

984
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: women's matchup on paper that brought in two time flyweight

985
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: champion Valentina Chefchenko, who did a lot of history in

986
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: the end in her unanimous decision win over two time

987
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: strawweight champion Jongwei Lee, most importantly making Jongwi Lee ultimately

988
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 2: look like she didn't belong in there, which was wild

989
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: considering this was a virtual betting pickham most of the week.

990
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: But Chefchenko equaling Amanda Newness for most title in UFC history,

991
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: becoming the sole owner of most title defenses on the

992
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: women's side in UFC history, and continuing to just add

993
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: to her already incredible legacy at age thirty seven that

994
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: even the broadcast and Joe Rogan, we're starting to say,

995
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: I wonder if there is an argument here for goat

996
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 2: chip for this woman, Luke. This was similar to the

997
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: main event in which grappling was used. I really though,

998
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: liked Valentine's explanations afterwards of how hard of a fight

999
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: this actually was, even though your eyes didn't see that,

1000
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 2: because it was so hard to control someone as talented

1001
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: as Wayley Jong. As as impressive as this victory was

1002
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: for Chevchenko's career, what can we really say that she

1003
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: has a claim to in the history of the sport

1004
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: right now?

1005
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 3: I think that the overall body of work lets her

1006
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 3: somewhere in the neighborhood you could say higher, but certainly

1007
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: no worse than top three. I think of the best

1008
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: women to ever do it, the consistent excellence year over

1009
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 3: a year, at least in terms of getting her hand raised.

1010
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: And improving and evolving.

1011
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think she's improving and evolving.

1012
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: You don't think so. No, she brought her wrestling, I

1013
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: don't think so to such a high level where people

1014
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 2: had given Wayy nothing but credit in recent years for.

1015
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: Revol certainly better than it was like relative to the

1016
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: Holly Holm fight. But I would even argue she was

1017
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: more dangerous back then, just based on the kind of

1018
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: the risks she was willing to take. I mean, I

1019
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: think there's a pretty decent criticism to make of this fight.

1020
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: But you know, if you're asking about the good side

1021
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 3: of Valentina, the overall amount of wins, the amount of

1022
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: wins against quality names, the amount of wins from you know,

1023
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 3: obviously pond for pound people that she's gone up against.

1024
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 3: She did not get her hand raised against the men

1025
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: in New nes but that was an extremely close fight,

1026
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 3: and then their first one was putting an honor when

1027
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: it was a three round contest and it came to

1028
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: an end. So to me, she has shown incredible durability,

1029
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: incredible resilience in the sense of thirty seven years old

1030
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 3: and still able to be on top of the game

1031
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 3: by reinventing her game a little bit. You talk about evolution, No,

1032
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 3: to me, she is simple.

1033
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 2: She's a vault. Her defense to it like a glove

1034
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: should even getting touch outside of that huge overhand right

1035
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: that way they landed early on where you're like, oh shit,

1036
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 2: we got a fight here. I don't feel like she

1037
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: got touched outside of regular jabs or the flow of

1038
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 2: the fight.

1039
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: You know, I just feel like, uh, you know what

1040
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: I said this. People were talking about this fight ahead

1041
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: of time, being like this is an epic clash of titans,

1042
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: and I kind of didn't buy it. Not that if

1043
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 3: you just look if you looked at Chefchenko's resume and

1044
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: then you look at Joan Wi Lee's resume and you're like, wow,

1045
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 3: these are incredible resumes. I mean, Nick, no one is

1046
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 3: a fraud here, like this is this is amazing. But

1047
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 3: something felt a little flat for me, which was I've

1048
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 3: seen Chefchenko at thirty five. She's as competitive there as

1049
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 3: I mean again, I mean within a hair's breath of

1050
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: beating Amanda Nunez, and certainly.

1051
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: They made a Juliana Payne, you beat Holly Holm, dude, Like.

1052
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 3: I mean, she's a fucking beast at thirty five. So

1053
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 3: then she goes to twenty five where she can really

1054
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 3: do her thing. They're having someone come up from one fifteen.

1055
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 3: So to me, it's like you got someone who's probably

1056
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 3: a little closer to a natural bansamweight going up against

1057
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 3: a very good but now slightly over the hill strawweight.

1058
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 3: This is not an it's an epic clash between two

1059
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: big names, but there's a little lack of suspense. For me,

1060
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 3: it just didn't mean the same thing.

1061
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 2: I'm not going to try to be like it was entertaining.

1062
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 3: I'm not even I'm not even making a point about

1063
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: the entertaining. I'm simply saying I'm not calling it a

1064
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: squash match, but JDM not getting shit done against Islam

1065
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 3: when he's coming up fifteen pounds and JDM is the

1066
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 3: champ and the younger guy.

1067
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 2: I get that.

1068
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,479
Speaker 3: That to me feels different than her waiting on someone

1069
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: to come up who's thirty six years of age. When

1070
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: she was beating up the ladies a division up from them.

1071
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 2: You're saying, it's similar to when Yo Wanna came up

1072
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: to one to twenty five the challenge Valentina and none

1073
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 2: of us gave her a chance and it played out

1074
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 2: that way because kind of like that, like she doesn't

1075
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 2: have power or submission game, She's going to just run

1076
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: into that. But I think Waley was looked at as

1077
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 2: different because not only does she have a strong wrestling game,

1078
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: she's always.

1079
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 3: Overstated, which I said on Fridays I said on Friday's

1080
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 3: MKO stated.

1081
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 2: Well, you know, and Oscar thought that Whaley would run

1082
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 2: through her, and there were questions about that, especially seeing

1083
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: Whaley look so fit and she had time off and

1084
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: really had rebuilt her body like Islam did. But hearing,

1085
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: and we don't have this sound right here, but hearing

1086
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 2: Valentina at the postfight press converence literally say, I prepare

1087
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: for war. Five rounds of war. We thought this would

1088
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: be the toughest fight of our entire career. We fought

1089
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: trained on a level I never even thought before in

1090
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: terms of just destroying ourselves every day physically. And then

1091
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 2: she said, people will say that this looked easy. She said,

1092
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: every single second she's fighting off Whaley's advancement. Every second

1093
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 2: Whaley felt like she was right there on the verge

1094
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: of landing a big shot. And even when she would

1095
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: take her down, the amount of fighting just to control position,

1096
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: just to you know, look to set something up that

1097
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: that actually was one of the most skilled, tough opponents

1098
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: she ever faced. She was that much better. And some

1099
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: of that comes with the size in this argument. I

1100
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: get that she's also thirty seven, dude, Yeah no, and

1101
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: she completely neutralized this great fighter. Granted, this great fighter

1102
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: got beat twice in row legit by Rose, including a

1103
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: head headgig knockout, and we can never forget that. But

1104
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 2: she was ten and zero against everybody else and dominant,

1105
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 2: and it looked like if you don't hear this sound,

1106
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: and if you don't watch it with the with the

1107
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 2: eyes of a fighter, if you're just casually watching it,

1108
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: it looked like she didn't belong in there. You got

1109
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: to give Schiftchenko that.

1110
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 3: Come on, man, I'm not saying she's some fraud. That's

1111
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: really not.

1112
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 2: No, you're discounting the quality she's saying.

1113
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: All of this, And it played out exactly as we

1114
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 3: thought it was going to play out. The people who

1115
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: thought like, yeah, I mean, these are great fighters, but

1116
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: this is a somewhat somewhat predictable kind of thing played

1117
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 3: out exactly in that way. So for her to say

1118
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 3: that I appreciate that she's working that hard, and I'm

1119
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 3: sure she is, but this, you know, saying that, oh,

1120
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 3: this only happened because of my preparation. Again, I'm saying,

1121
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 3: I'm sure she trained hard, but this followed the exact

1122
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: path that we had assumed it would because of what

1123
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: Schiftchenko represents. She's physical for the weight class, she has

1124
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 3: good wrestling, she doesn't make a lot of mistakes, and dominant,

1125
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 3: but somemother ring top control that's somewhat risk averse yeah,

1126
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 3: no shit, it played out the way that it played.

1127
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: It's not the same thing as Islam beating JDM. It's

1128
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: not even fucking close.

1129
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 2: It's not because of the weight moves that you're saying.

1130
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: But what Valentina had lacked up to this point was

1131
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 2: certain that one signature victory against a fellow Hall of

1132
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: Famer where we felt the terms were even. Maybe she

1133
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: didn't get that in that you want to fight because

1134
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: of that size difference. I just I don't know. I

1135
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 2: don't I don't equate it all to size. I give

1136
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: her a lot of props for what she pulled off

1137
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: in there is there a path for her, though to

1138
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: goat ship and would that path have to include a

1139
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 2: bandam weight champions.

1140
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 3: It's the she doesn't have to go to bansamweight, but

1141
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 3: it's clearly the most interesting part of what's left.

1142
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: She turned pro before Chris Cyborg. Isn't that crazy? It

1143
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: looks I know, Chris the AFL Championship, She's not doing nothing,

1144
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: but that's insane.

1145
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 3: I certainly, I just feel like I don't know what

1146
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 3: Chifchenko wants or what the UFC will ask of her.

1147
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: But if you just look up and down the various

1148
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 3: one and the cupboard is a little bit, a little

1149
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 3: bit bare more broadly, but the more interesting challenges to me,

1150
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 3: like her versus Kayla, Now that's a challenge.

1151
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: And when you say more broadly, it's because we're talking

1152
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: about the women's divisions ultimately, right, See, you lean on

1153
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: that stupid you lean on that a lot.

1154
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 3: You go there, You lean on that joke a lot,

1155
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: you go there a lot. All right, I'm just trying

1156
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 3: to say, just ask yourself, which of these fights are

1157
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 3: toughest for her? And it's clearly something in order of Harrison,

1158
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 3: not you know.

1159
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 2: Okay, but because Harrison's a monster at thirty five, and

1160
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 2: we open the question like how much longer she can

1161
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: make that, which is why I kind of want them

1162
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 2: to give her a chance at like a women's heavyweight

1163
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: where you have two divisions in one. Is it realistic

1164
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: for her to beat somebody that physical? Are you saying, well,

1165
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: she used their physicality to beat way Lee and kind

1166
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: of just control there?

1167
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 3: Well, who's to say why it's interesting her lording her

1168
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 3: physicality over a smaller opponent is not especially I know

1169
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 3: there's going to be people who probably hate this opinion,

1170
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: but her lording that over a smaller opponent is not

1171
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 3: that interesting to me. Her being thwarted against an opponent

1172
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 3: who can match that physicality, now that's a little bit

1173
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: of a different ballgame that to me is interesting.

1174
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm never going to argue on the interesting

1175
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: slash entertainment side of it, but on the just pure

1176
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 2: skilled domination side, you know, I certainly give her the flowers.

1177
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: We do have Shiftchenko talking about exactly that, the idea

1178
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: of facing Kayla Harrison next, or could it be Natalia

1179
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: Silva could be another contender.

1180
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 4: Here's Val told me to ask you after the fight

1181
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 4: when we spoke before about Kayla Harrison saying she'd like

1182
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 4: to fight you at one thirty five at the White

1183
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 4: House if you won this, what do you think about

1184
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 4: that now?

1185
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: I think it's one of the possibilities.

1186
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 10: Yes, and I consider that. It's kind of like, for now,

1187
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 10: I want to take care of injuries what I have.

1188
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 10: That's kind of like migrating from training to training.

1189
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 11: Camp with me.

1190
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 10: But after like maybe a week or something like that,

1191
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 10: we will have our conversation with my team, with my

1192
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 10: coach Pile and decide what is next. Because I feel

1193
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 10: there is good challengers in flight weight as well erin

1194
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 10: Natalia and bantam weight. Now we have Amanda o Kayla,

1195
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 10: and I would say probably fans would love to see

1196
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 10: Amanda trilogy because it was unfinished business. But in the

1197
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 10: same time, it's unclear yet is she return on not return,

1198
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 10: is she fighting or not fighting? And also it's unknown

1199
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 10: in what shape she's gonna return, like half Amanda or

1200
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 10: maybe full Amanda, who knows. Yeah, but Kayla, it's also

1201
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 10: one of the possibility and it's going to be another

1202
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 10: like super challenge.

1203
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: To Kyla by the way, and I did want to mention,

1204
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: of course Aaron Blancheld submitting Tracy Cortez, which put her

1205
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: in that conversation as well. Look, this is interesting, but

1206
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 2: would it be better if we're trying to like pro

1207
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: wrestling script this. Hey, what if Amanda and Kayla would

1208
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: have their super fight, you know, their former teammate that

1209
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 2: broke apart because of the rising greatness of Kali. Let's

1210
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: say Amanda won that, and that'd be one of the

1211
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 2: biggest wins, you know, in her entire career. Isn't it

1212
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: better to get val trying to become a two division

1213
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 2: champion against Amanda? To try to avenge the two losses

1214
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: of her greatest rival for the idea of an actual

1215
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: handoff of goat Ship in the same manner that Nuna

1216
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: is knocking out Cyborg was a handoff of that greatness.

1217
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: Okay, but the only issue is do you remember the

1218
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 3: second Nunez and Schefchenko fight.

1219
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 2: Of course sucked ass Okay, but it was wasn't it

1220
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: better than I mean, it was better than what the

1221
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: wonder boit two?

1222
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 3: Okay? Fair enough. We haven't talked about this yet. If

1223
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 3: there's anyone getting blowback on the internet for being boring,

1224
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 3: Islam is getting some of it. Chefchenko's getting the most

1225
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 3: of it. People seem tired of her long island Luke,

1226
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 3: have you detected among at least the online fan base,

1227
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of Valentina fatigue.

1228
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 5: I gotta be honest. I didn't see anything about thank you,

1229
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 5: but BC texted me are you guys? Hi was very

1230
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 5: anti chef.

1231
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: Of that dude who was like that.

1232
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 3: That's a drop in the bucket from whatever The guy.

1233
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: Was basically like, you can't get into the UFC with

1234
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 2: wrestling a boring style. You have to be exciting. On

1235
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: the Danaway Contender Series, but yet we were rewarded at

1236
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 2: the title love.

1237
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's also because the Contender series rules are stupid.

1238
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 3: I mean, let's be honest about that. But dude, I

1239
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 3: see here taking a bunch of l's online people just

1240
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 3: kind of like fed up with the smother what they

1241
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 3: in their mind, in their minds, the smother fest that

1242
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 3: comes with her fight. This is this is what I'm

1243
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 3: trying to say. Somebody who can make a meaningful resistance

1244
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 3: of that. Every direction you want to go is fine.

1245
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: The noon is one is interesting for all the reasons

1246
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 3: you articulated, except that the last fight that they had

1247
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 3: was butt cheeks.

1248
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: If someone had your opinion but they looked like they

1249
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: were a piece of shit, you would say they have

1250
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 2: they hate women, That's why they believe that.

1251
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 3: No, I would take a broader view, speaking of I

1252
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 3: would take a broader view. Would I would take a

1253
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 3: broader view of their their worldview more broadly in other opinions.

1254
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 3: But having I think a diminished opinion relative to twenty

1255
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 3: sixteen of the City Women's m A is not only

1256
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 3: warranted but frankly rational.

1257
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm here for val trying to make it the

1258
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: go a conversation, A cemented you know, thing in her

1259
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: favor because she's in that area where she still got it.

1260
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 2: And there are huge fights to our point at one

1261
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 2: thirty five.

1262
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 3: Do you like the chef Chenko fight with Jeong? Did

1263
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 3: I like it? Yeah?

1264
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 5: I was actually, like surprisingly entertained the entire night with

1265
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 5: every fight that I was shocked to hear.

1266
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 3: People can't, well, you can't ask this guy.

1267
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 2: I wish I would.

1268
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 5: I hear people were complaining about the Comain and Main.

1269
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 5: Comaine is a little more understandable the Main. I do

1270
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 5: not get hang with you.

1271
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 3: I didn't hate the Main at all. I understand his

1272
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 3: complaints out there. I get it. Comaine, I can understand.

1273
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 2: Well, we kind of felt like it could be a tactical,

1274
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 2: not overly exciting fight, even at the best situation, where

1275
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: if Wiley was just sort of like equalling her on

1276
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: the striking. But I have to say he was there

1277
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: in different forms. I was there in the second row.

1278
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: Maybe it's because it came after a four fight stretch

1279
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 2: with the knockouts, the brawl and the crowd where that

1280
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 2: UFC two O five, UFC two to seventeen Magic was

1281
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 2: back in the garden. It was like, anything can happen.

1282
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 3: Well, the first three fights on the main card work,

1283
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:06,959
Speaker 3: I mean.

1284
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,959
Speaker 2: Counting Bo now Nicol with a Dylan Danis car crash

1285
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: in between. It was like, holy shit, are we pointing

1286
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 2: toward potential, like best card of this era type of feeling.

1287
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 2: I wasn't though, let down, because we kind of knew

1288
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: this could happen. There's some people are saying, if you

1289
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: kind of know coming in, could this just open the

1290
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: pay per view main card or is that super district?

1291
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 3: I that's super disrespectful.

1292
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: All right, Dana didn't love the performance from Joangweli. A

1293
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: lot of us were disappointed. Thought she would do better.

1294
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 2: Here's the boss.

1295
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 12: And then, speaking of goat talking again, Valentine Chipchenko another

1296
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 12: crazy dominant performance. I saw you did a podcast where

1297
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 12: you said that fight would never be boring, and then

1298
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 12: it signed out that Valentina just kind of smoked. Curious

1299
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 12: your thoughts on that fight as.

1300
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, I thought that, you know, Wayley's a little pippull.

1301
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 13: I thought she would she would be much stronger and

1302
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 13: and do better in that fight than she did. One

1303
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 13: of my buddies texted me after the fight said this,

1304
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 13: this is why we have weight classes.

1305
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 12: I mean, Jang's a very strong woman, and Valentina just

1306
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 12: kind of threw around like no business. Would you be

1307
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 12: interested in Valentina maybe moving back to one thirty five

1308
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 12: to try and test herself for UKA with her making

1309
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 12: those clothes.

1310
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not even thinking about that kind

1311
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 2: of shit. Wow, he called the shitty's like, I don't

1312
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: really care about that at all, But obviously he doesn't

1313
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: actually been that. But interesting. Should Wayley go to one

1314
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 2: fifteen and really make Mackenzie Derno unhappy? Or should I

1315
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 2: mean when when Valentina was asked, she said, oh no,

1316
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 2: she absolutely should stay in this weight class. She belongs here.

1317
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: She's going to be a handful for every single one

1318
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 2: of the other girl.

1319
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 3: I can believe that she can be compet Let me

1320
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 3: be clear, I believe that John Wi Lee can absolutely

1321
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 3: be competitive at one hundred and twenty five pounds.

1322
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 2: Should they ask val give up the belt and move up?

1323
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 3: I think if I think, if she's going to go

1324
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 3: back to thirty five and I'm and I'm young, and

1325
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 3: I'm derong, I stick around.

1326
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 2: But the maybe is Valentina fights a lot. I know

1327
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: she said she needs a little bit of time off,

1328
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 2: but like you get the soul, you go one more

1329
01:00:58,640 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: and do the silver fight. And me, it's kind of

1330
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 2: the same question we're saying about Perreira. It's to fight

1331
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: Olberg or do you move on and let Olberg fight

1332
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 2: for the vacant title.

1333
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 3: It's tough. I mean thirty six too. She has some

1334
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 3: questions to ask about thirty six for Wayy Whaley. You know,

1335
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 3: to what extent she is going to be, you know,

1336
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 3: how much longer she wants to cut the most amount

1337
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 3: of weight.

1338
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 2: She wouldn't answer the question, despite Joe's it's given credit.

1339
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan was going back to the well like, no,

1340
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find out if you're going to be

1341
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: a fight.

1342
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 3: Actually respect him for that. He didn't let it go

1343
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 3: because most people would just let it go. I'm glad

1344
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 3: he didn't.

1345
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 7: Well she did.

1346
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: I have to say. I know it's a cultural difference,

1347
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: but she was too happy after a loss like that.

1348
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 2: She walked by the press table and was like, yeah,

1349
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 2: like celebrating like she had won. And I know what,

1350
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: she's celebrating the idea that she put her best effort

1351
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 2: into it and that that's her reputation. She's gonna come

1352
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: back and do it again, you know, whoever she fights.

1353
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 2: But I also wanted to also see like some disappointment,

1354
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: like you tried hard and really came up empty in

1355
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 2: this fight and did not look like an all time

1356
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: great and that's because of chef Chenko being that great dude.

1357
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 3: A right, there's a lot to be said for that.

1358
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 2: I was for sure about this fight, but me apparently

1359
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 2: all right. Let's move it on here to topic number three,

1360
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 2: and it's the rest of the UFC three twenty two

1361
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 2: main card, which is inevitably a welterweight conversation here after

1362
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: break through knockouts and near fifty to fifty fight offerings

1363
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: from one Carlos protest from one Michael Morales. Let's start

1364
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 2: off on the nineteen and oh Morales, who scored his

1365
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 2: third straight explosive stoppage win late in the first round

1366
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 2: or was it the second round against Sean Brady? First

1367
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 2: round stoppage against Sean Brady who was number two coming

1368
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 2: in Luke, the size difference look huge in there. It

1369
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 2: was only supposed to be three inches in height six

1370
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 2: inches in reach, which is not nothing, but it looked

1371
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: like something in there. We didn't get a Brady shot

1372
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: in that first round. Ultimately, but Morales did something that

1373
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 2: I didn't see this ending coming in, and holy shit,

1374
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,959
Speaker 2: he delivered. He was poised, he was powerful. He called

1375
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: for a title shot afterwards. Is he firmly in the

1376
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 2: conversation here for a shot at that or are we

1377
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: instead looking at potentially bringing him in protest and just

1378
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: banging it out look to figure out.

1379
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think to me, he needs one more. I've

1380
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 3: seen a lot of desire to push Morales into a

1381
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 3: title shot, which, to be clear, BC, I mean, he's

1382
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 3: on his fucking way. He just dusted the number two

1383
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 3: guy in the world, who I have great We both

1384
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 3: we have great respect for Sean Brady. And I want

1385
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 3: to say one more time, Brady took a huge risk here.

1386
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 3: We identified it, I'm sure everyone did when we did

1387
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 3: Thursday show, and this was either going to go great

1388
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 3: for him or blew up in his face. And it

1389
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 3: blew up in his face. And that's just the that's

1390
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 3: the game he played. What I'll say is BC one thing.

1391
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 3: First of all, they look like they were in different

1392
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 3: weight classes. I mean, they did not even look like

1393
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 3: they were the same. Second of all, I feel like

1394
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 3: Michael Morales is like the second coming of Anthony Rumble Johnson. WHOA,

1395
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 3: he's the power. Remember Rumble. People forget about this. Rumble

1396
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 3: was a very good wrestler as well.

1397
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 2: Yes, and he was welterwaite, at least at first.

1398
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 3: Anyway, he was a welterweight and so to me, like

1399
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 3: this guy really reminds me of that. But he's got

1400
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 3: a little bit, you know, his own flare, and he's

1401
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 3: got Judo to mix in with it. He had a

1402
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 3: great idea low stance. People ask why didn't Brady shoot

1403
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 3: because he'd have to shoot from a million miles away

1404
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 3: based on how they were lined up. It just wasn't

1405
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 3: gonna work it. So every time he tried to close

1406
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: the distance, he got chewed to fucking pieces.

1407
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 2: For it, and he took some big shots before the finish.

1408
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 3: Obviously, I was people forget remember you almost got finished

1409
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 3: earlier in the round and kind of hung on. I

1410
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 3: was like, all right, maybe we're even.

1411
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 2: Desperation a double leg attempt to sort of just buy time.

1412
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 3: Dude, you have to what is the ideal distance to

1413
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 3: shoot a double leg?

1414
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 2: You know when I run the pipe, Luke, what is

1415
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:28,439
Speaker 2: the ideal It's.

1416
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 3: A very basic question. What is the ideal distance?

1417
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 2: I'd say four four and a quarter for you.

1418
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 3: No, the ideal distance is I should be able to

1419
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 3: touch you. Okay, this is the distance you can do

1420
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 3: it from further, especially if you're going to go with

1421
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 3: a bent over posture and then run them into the fence.

1422
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 3: You can go further away, but ideal is the same

1423
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 3: distance from which you would punch them. So look at

1424
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 3: how fucking far away he was. That's a that's not

1425
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 3: just low percentage, that's no percentage. But either way it

1426
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 3: didn't matter. Dude, Morales was probably gonna win that one.

1427
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 14: Well.

1428
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 2: I like Sean's jab. I liked that he was trying

1429
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 2: to box.

1430
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 3: He was trying.

1431
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 2: He did look like you know, prime Franki Edgar in

1432
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 2: that regard.

1433
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 3: But I want to make the point about this clearly.

1434
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 3: At twenty five, could you put Morales in front of Islam?

1435
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 3: And would it be fun and interesting at least for

1436
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 3: a little while? Probably so, probably so, But I feel

1437
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 3: like he needs a little bit more seasoning, sure, and

1438
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 3: a little bit more time to really round the corner.

1439
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 3: You give him prochest PC, how is that not fucking incredible?

1440
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 3: Or you feed him to rock Monov and let's see.

1441
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god Monov or the winner of I Gary

1442
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 2: versus Blah. What a time, dude, what a time.

1443
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 3: And every time you think that were done with Walter Wade,

1444
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 3: like O, there's you know, Buckley's coming up, but then

1445
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 3: Buckley fates, here comes Morales. There's just all these new

1446
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 3: entrants into this division. But for me personally, I think

1447
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 3: the one that makes the most sense I would love

1448
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 3: to see Prochest fight Michael Morales. Winner of that can

1449
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 3: get a title shot.

1450
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 2: Well, Protest earned this step forward in the discussion by

1451
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 2: what he did to former champion Leon Edwards in a

1452
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,439
Speaker 2: fight that did seem competitive or even though we're seeing

1453
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 2: that meme going around of Leon won the first round

1454
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 2: of yeah, with Leon backpacking him, hitting him in the face,

1455
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 2: and Protest is almost like, can we just get this

1456
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 2: part over with and then get back to where we

1457
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 2: light up some darts and throw some bombs. Well, we

1458
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 2: got back to that point and it was an absolutely

1459
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 2: vicious finish with a right cross in which it didn't

1460
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 2: look like Leon almost blinded himself accidentally to the punch

1461
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 2: by putting his hand up Luke, and then the punch

1462
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 2: came right underneath and hit the spot and then he

1463
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 2: hits his head on the back of the canvas going down. Yes,

1464
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 2: he lost to Ian Gary. He did rally and save face.

1465
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 2: Then he killed Jeff Neil. Now he killed Leon Edwards.

1466
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 2: I want Protest Morales more than I think I want

1467
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: most things in this division.

1468
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 3: Right now, I do best matchup for Morales.

1469
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 5: I mean, it's got to be the Protest, right I

1470
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 5: don't think I said this ten minutes ago. I don't

1471
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 5: think either guy really has a chance against Islam right now.

1472
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 5: So let's just put him together. Yeah, get a fun match.

1473
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 5: People want to rush Morales. I'm high on him, but

1474
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 5: you gotta be real careful with this stage right now. Which,

1475
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 5: by the way, even if you lost it, I mean

1476
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 5: he'd be back in a title shot within it, probably

1477
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 5: a year or two. Right, It's not the end of

1478
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 5: the world, but just to give him the maximum chance

1479
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 5: to really get there. It's a little too soon, but.

1480
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 2: You're thoroughly impressed them with huge words. But because he

1481
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: had off some resistance there, I.

1482
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 3: Mean Roes Prochester. The issue for Prochest though, this is

1483
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 3: the problem with that win, is that first I mean,

1484
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 3: first of all, it was Trumento dude, and first got

1485
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 3: to finish Leon with strikes and dude, it was so heavy,

1486
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 3: and then the fact that he got lifted off of

1487
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 3: his feet and his head went It's insane. It's insane.

1488
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 3: But the issue for me is that neither Jeff Neil

1489
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 3: nor Leon Edwards literally Leon a little bit is a

1490
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 3: true kind of duplicative test of what Islam would prevent

1491
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 3: or sorry, would offer. And of course nobody can be Islam,

1492
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 3: but you know, Brady for example, would be kind of

1493
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 3: a close test. How would you handle something like that?

1494
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 3: So to me, I would need to see projest go

1495
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 3: up against someone who can Yes, Leon could take him down,

1496
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 3: but was just making some errors on the feet. Someone

1497
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 3: who's a little bit more durable, not on a two

1498
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 3: fight losing streak. Now with three, somebody who's on the

1499
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 3: rise can be a real threat consistently with the wrestling.

1500
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 3: I want to see that you feel.

1501
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 2: Bad for Leon because I didn't think physically at thirty

1502
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 2: four he was going to be washed, and I'm not

1503
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 2: saying I think even that he is. But it's getting

1504
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 2: closer here.

1505
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 3: Why it's losing so much.

1506
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 2: I thought it was a disconnect because we talked a

1507
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 2: lot about the last two fights, the title loss and

1508
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 2: then the submission lost to Brady, where it just felt

1509
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 2: more instead of feeling like, oh, it was a bad

1510
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: matchup where he caught the right wrong guy at the

1511
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 2: right time all that stuff. It was also like you

1512
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 2: didn't see the fire in him to bounce back, and

1513
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 2: I wondered if there was a mental hiccup, the same

1514
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 2: hiccups that I saw at times on the rise up war.

1515
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 2: I didn't believe in him until headshot Dead and until

1516
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 2: that short little run after where he was a legitimate

1517
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 2: pound for pounder. He looked pretty damn good in this

1518
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 2: fight until suddenly you're focused on his bald spot and

1519
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 2: the fact that he's unconscious on the ground, Luke, and

1520
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 2: then you're like, yeah, these are three losses, and two

1521
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 2: of them devastating. I don't know if you can put

1522
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 2: the pieces back together physically and mentally after this type

1523
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 2: of loss. I don't you know. That doesn't mean he

1524
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 2: should retire, that doesn't mean he's not going to win

1525
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 2: another fight, but the other version of him that we

1526
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 2: used to know, he's not coming through that door anymore.

1527
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 3: The reality is he served a really important purpose in

1528
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 3: essentially putting to bed the Komaru Kolby era era of welterweight,

1529
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 3: and he will always have that.

1530
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 2: And it's realogy with hell.

1531
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very important contribution that he made, but

1532
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 3: he is not built for this generation of fighters. Wow, dude,

1533
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 3: look what they're doing.

1534
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 2: You know, Protest though, got a real turn here with

1535
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 2: this win. Here's just talking about wanting a title shot.

1536
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 15: And I have to ask, did you see Michael Morales's

1537
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 15: knockout because he also got one too.

1538
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, mike O is really good.

1539
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 9: He's young, He's this strong, really strong guy. But I

1540
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 9: think I still more entrenchanding thing he and I think

1541
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 9: it's my dive.

1542
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 15: What if they because I seem like everyone on the

1543
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 15: internet wants to see YouTube fight. Do you think that's

1544
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 15: a fight better when one of you is the champion

1545
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 15: and then it could be a big main event.

1546
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so about it.

1547
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 9: I can fight it whenever the UFC one, you know,

1548
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 9: I can, of course, I don't know fight for the belt,

1549
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 9: but say you need to fight Michael. You guys need

1550
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 9: to fight like a semi final and go to the bat. Okay,

1551
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 9: let's go, let's fight.

1552
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 2: Okay. I like that attitude here's Michael Morales's response.

1553
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 15: To that, the motion for the belt, but Carlos Protest

1554
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 15: also wants the title shot. He declared himself the most

1555
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 15: entertaining fighter in the division. We asked him about your

1556
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 15: fighting goes, You're exciting, he's more exciting and maybe eventually

1557
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 15: you can fight, but he would also be willing to

1558
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 15: fight you.

1559
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 3: Maybe.

1560
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 15: In a quote semi finals, man more speaks well to champions.

1561
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 15: So what did you make of his win and his comments?

1562
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 11: Okay to Porta, the came from that approximate semi final.

1563
01:10:53,439 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 8: But his named Porta me like Amanda isn't said no important,

1564
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Speaker 8: it is amazing. Puzzles youngest hoving to approach, Medios to

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1566
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Speaker 8: crook clerky, your completely promise, completely promise and.

1567
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Speaker 11: Around completing part and a president you know that's in

1568
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Speaker 11: the US c owns this one. The USC makes the shots,

1569
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 11: makes the calls. They will see who's gonna fight who,

1570
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 11: and that's we're just gonna found what they say and listen.

1571
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 11: If I'm supposed to fy Parati, Protest, Splocify Ian or Palal,

1572
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 11: whoever it is, I'll take it. I'm not going to

1573
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 11: turn down fight. I want to fight for the highway

1574
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 11: if I need to fight one of them. Okay, listen,

1575
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 11: I fulfilled my promise. I said I was gonna get

1576
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 11: on that kind of the first round.

1577
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: I got it.

1578
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 11: Other fighters didn't fulfill their promise. So whatever the UFC says,

1579
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 11: we're gonna fight.

1580
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 2: I think that Usman's probably number one has the best

1581
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 2: chance of getting this gout company support all that. I

1582
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 2: think if Ian Gary wins, he's going to have the

1583
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 2: second best chance to get the title shot. I'm not

1584
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 2: really sure where shot gut fits in beyond. I think

1585
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: they're gonna make him win one more for sure. So yes,

1586
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 2: make this fight. They're hot, people want them. The loser

1587
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 2: won't be won't fall off for good. You just got

1588
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 2: a retool and now you'll have an absolute viable contender

1589
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 2: and one of these two in protests and morales rather

1590
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 2: than what we have now, which is two hot guys

1591
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 2: on the rise. But you're not fully sure, especially since

1592
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 2: we did see projects two fights ago. I mean, that's

1593
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 2: what this walterweight division is given us hot menu. Here

1594
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 2: is Dana on this topic. Are we getting protest morales?

1595
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 13: Next?

1596
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:55,959
Speaker 15: The rest of the main card, a couple of starmaking

1597
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 15: performances in Mike Morales and Carlos protests. I know, you

1598
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 15: guys have always been high on Carlos, but's a put

1599
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 15: away leon like that, and you know, calling himself the

1600
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 15: most entertaining fighter in the division. Just what did you

1601
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 15: make of his kind of you know, like I said,

1602
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 15: starmaking performance out there.

1603
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, listen, when you get these kind of opportunities,

1604
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 13: you know, like ewing tonight, I mean, when you get

1605
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 13: an opportunity, you come to make the most of it.

1606
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 3: And there was a lot of that on the card tonight.

1607
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 15: And then speaking of Michael Morales, not just his performance

1608
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 15: today but kind of all week. At the press conference,

1609
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 15: he kind of came off as a superstar. He got

1610
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,640
Speaker 15: most of the questions, He's had the longest media day.

1611
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Speaker 15: There's a ton of Ecuador and media hair specifically for him.

1612
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Speaker 15: So he's you've got to see money with him moving.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, listen, he's obviously incredibly he's nineteen and zero, he's

1614
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Speaker 13: cool as hell, and yeah, he's got he's got he's

1615
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1616
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Speaker 13: that kid.

1617
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Speaker 2: All right, let's check those boxes together.

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Speaker 2: Look, before I get into topic number four, I did

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Speaker 2: forget on that main card. How about that lightweight bout

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Speaker 2: to kick it out? Beneil dry Hush ended up missing weight,

1652
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Speaker 2: forcing this to be a catchweight out. But he lost

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01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 2: took sixteen seconds or fifteen I think, is what the

1655
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 2: UFC is officially calling it. As the God of War

1656
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 2: Ben was Saintani delivered for the third straight time since

1657
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:45,479
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1658
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1659
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1660
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Speaker 2: the discount double check his BSD at age twenty nine

1661
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Speaker 2: all the way back after this, or do the replace

1662
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 2: kind of confirm that maybe Benny's or ear in this.

1663
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 3: This doesn't tell us much. I mean, I'm not gone.

1664
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 3: It's not a question of all. I don't believe in

1665
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 3: BSD per se. It's a question of Derry Us has

1666
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 3: taken a lot of damage in his career. Is he's

1667
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 3: lost three of his last four, all three of those

1668
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 3: via stoppage, all three of those via stoppage in the

1669
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 3: first round. He's thirty six years old. It's to me,

1670
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 3: I have a lot of respect for the career Banil

1671
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 3: dery Us, but it looks like it might be time

1672
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 3: to start considering an exit plan Luke.

1673
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 2: Afterwards, BSD was talking about wanting a BMF title shot.

1674
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 2: But here's the deal. In my mind, I wanted to

1675
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 2: say this to you. If the UFC comes to a

1676
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 2: point where they realize, and they might soon that this

1677
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 2: walterweight division is so stacked them, maybe it doesn't make

1678
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 2: sense at the moment for Ilia versus Islam. Maybe that

1679
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense. Isn't BSD rising into a lightweight

1680
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 2: title shot opportunity against Ilia Tuporia one of those just

1681
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 2: slam dunk bangers that should be the main event of

1682
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 2: a pay per view coming up.

1683
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 3: I just feel like to Porio would punch his fucking

1684
01:16:58,479 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 3: lights out within the first couple of minutes.

1685
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 2: I like the Gaichie fight. We kind of have to

1686
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 2: see this, even though I'm already pushing him into a

1687
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 2: third division fight here if they wanted to go to that,

1688
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 2: don't you have to see him against the contenders that

1689
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 2: are starting to line up. I know BSD was ranked

1690
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 2: fourteen coming in, and I know that's a lot of

1691
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 2: this seems to be. I mean, look, BSD got dropped

1692
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 2: on a calf kick as he was getting up, he

1693
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 2: got hit with a knee, and then he just on

1694
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 2: course this overhand. That just one touch and Darius was

1695
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 2: down talked about the issues against day Yush in terms

1696
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 2: of recuperative skills lately, But God of War is marketable.

1697
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 2: He's tough as shit. He's gonna make it a fun fight.

1698
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: Even if you believe that Torporia carves him up, I

1699
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 2: still need to pour you against Saryuki and or Gaichee

1700
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: or Patty.

1701
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 3: Or Saryuki is facing Hooker on Saturday.

1702
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna see. We could see a tour of ilia

1703
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 2: in some very interesting fights. You don't consider this one

1704
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 2: of them. That's what I'm ultimately asking.

1705
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 3: Not right now, Okay, not right now.

1706
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 2: He's got work to do, still true, But I don't

1707
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 2: know if I need him in a BMF title fight.

1708
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 2: I just need him against a highly ranked guy in

1709
01:17:57,800 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 2: the top ten here.

1710
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 3: I think he's I think he's all the things you

1711
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 3: said he is, but whether he's elite is not clear

1712
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 3: to me.

1713
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 2: All right, I mean he is whatever I say he is.

1714
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 3: And if he wasn't Luke, then why would I say?

1715
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 2: Hey, Let's go to topic number four? And that is

1716
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:15,640
Speaker 2: the UFC three twenty two preliminary card main evented in

1717
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 2: a way in the featured prelim by Bo Nickel turning

1718
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 2: it back after that disappointing loss to our dr coming

1719
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 2: off of to be fair, the disappointing decision when over

1720
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 2: a party there from Scotland, Paul Craig, this time against

1721
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 2: Rudolfo Vieira, who maybe was there to have this done

1722
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 2: against him in a rebuilding effort for Bo Nichol's reputation.

1723
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 2: Just what nine fights into his MMA career and the

1724
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 2: three time NCAA Division One wrestling champion delivered a high

1725
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 2: kick knockout, and round three that was brutal came right

1726
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 2: after the crowd was booing Bo for not doing enough

1727
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 2: offensively and a lot of this fight, Even though a

1728
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 2: lot of this fight was Bo breaking Vierra down oppressively

1729
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 2: with strikes, there was a lot of circling, a lot

1730
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 2: of killing time. The crowd did boo, and then we

1731
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 2: got Bo jumping up on the Cajun give the double

1732
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 2: middle finger? Did you like the fire from bow as

1733
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 2: much as you like to finish?

1734
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 3: I don't care if he wants to be loved or hated.

1735
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 3: I just want him to pick a lane. It doesn't

1736
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 3: matter to me either way.

1737
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: We telling the fans to pick a lane. That's what

1738
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 2: the speech was afterwards.

1739
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you got it. They'll pick a lane when

1740
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 3: you do, you know what I mean. Or they'll force

1741
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 3: you into one, I suppose, But either way, I listen.

1742
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 3: Obviously the finish is spectacular. I'm gonna say, did I

1743
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 3: see a bunch of good things in that fight? Absolutely?

1744
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 3: He threw more than overhands. He had some decent combination punching.

1745
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 3: He took the fight in terms of the wrestling to

1746
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 3: Vieira to basically start out the fight right. Better footwork.

1747
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 3: There was just a better attitude competitively and a better

1748
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 3: assessment and use of the tools of his offense. Both

1749
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 3: In going back to the wrestling, I'd like to see

1750
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 3: a little bit more of it, but I definitely liked

1751
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,759
Speaker 3: what I saw, and in the striking some clear improvements

1752
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 3: over the just that same boring ass overhand in terms

1753
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 3: of setting things up, which is exactly what he did.

1754
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 3: Those body kicks we see so back in look, Vieira

1755
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 3: has a hand up and then the hand going down

1756
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 3: because he anticipates is going to the body and it

1757
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 3: comes up the other side. He set that up perfectly.

1758
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 3: It was brutal. It was vicious by any measurement. So

1759
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 3: I think this was a good first step in the

1760
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 3: right direction.

1761
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 2: He had that slam takedown, but it was just that

1762
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 2: a step, a step.

1763
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 3: They need to build this again, I keep saying with

1764
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 3: Morales at twenty five bo I'm not sure what his

1765
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 3: age is, but still relatively take your time. However, this

1766
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 3: was not that this doesn't change a lot of what

1767
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 3: you still learned from the RDR fight, but it's the

1768
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 3: path back to erasing that great first step.

1769
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 2: I did actually like the Fire from Bow, even though

1770
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 2: I do think some of the criticism is still warranted

1771
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 2: about the lack of putting all the skills together, and

1772
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 2: he's going to need more fights and maybe more fights

1773
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 2: like this to keep, you know, building it all back up.

1774
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 3: But the very best ones, though, don't live for the fans.

1775
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 3: I know, and I do get there or the media, but.

1776
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 2: I do get some of the criticisms that it feels

1777
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 2: like when you hear him talk, even though he says

1778
01:20:58,320 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 2: the right things, he said all the right things coming

1779
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 2: in this fight, there's some disillusionent level that he believes

1780
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 2: his ability is here. And it's not the.

1781
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 3: Part I'm struggling with because he's I'm not saying he's

1782
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 3: being fake. I think he's struggling with I want to

1783
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 3: be a humble guy and not get out in front

1784
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 3: of my skis, but also, fuck your life. I'm better

1785
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 3: than all of you, and these two things are now

1786
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:19,560
Speaker 3: currently intentioned.

1787
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 2: All right, Let's move on down to Aaron Blanchfield, who

1788
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 2: had that fight against Tracy Ortes two ranked flyweights looking

1789
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 2: after recent defeats. It was Rose Nominis for Tracy. It

1790
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,799
Speaker 2: was of course Menon Farrow and that number one Contenders

1791
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 2: match for Aaron Blanchfield to see who's stepping forward, and

1792
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 2: it was Blanchefield in a big way here by rear

1793
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 2: naked choke. But look it did come after almost two

1794
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 2: full rounds of Trace Cortes getting the better of her

1795
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 2: on the feet with the boxing. Very competitive fight, but

1796
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 2: it was like Blanchfield went this long stretch without shooting

1797
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 2: at all, even though that's her game. But as soon

1798
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 2: as she started shooting, the fight was quickly over. After that,

1799
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 2: it obviously catapults her into contention. Even Valentina mentioned her name.

1800
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 2: What are you convinced yet that she's evolved enough through

1801
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 2: the loss to get to this point because I was

1802
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 2: impressed with the whim. I wasn't impressed with the fight

1803
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 2: up until the point that she wanted.

1804
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 3: She was walking into punches over and over again. The

1805
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 3: thing that you realize about Aaron Blanchfield's game why it's

1806
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 3: powerful BC. She's kind of just a battering ram. She

1807
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 3: just keeps banging on the door until it breaks down.

1808
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 3: Then at that point, it's off to the races, but

1809
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 3: to do that, it's a little bit ugly to get there,

1810
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 3: and I was hoping to see a little bit of

1811
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 3: more sophistication in this contest.

1812
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 2: And race also took her down first, Aaron even Scheffell to.

1813
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 3: Her point, you know, she managed it well, but I

1814
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 3: would like to see her get her head off the

1815
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 3: center line. She was just walking into shit. So this

1816
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 3: is the thing it's like. Was was the real naked

1817
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 3: choke that she eventually got, which was again didn't have

1818
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 3: perfect positioning, but was able to control one of the

1819
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 3: arms and then get the throat. That was really great.

1820
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, when she she just keeps attacking and

1821
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 3: eventually she gets through. The problem is against these skilled

1822
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 3: operators the top, especially if Valentina stays there, that's a

1823
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 3: hopeless fucking way of fighting her. So I appreciate how

1824
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 3: well she did in this contest, but the issues that

1825
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 3: showed up here would only be magnified against someone like Shivchenko.

1826
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: Skilled up rator. Is Tracy Cortez overrated? Can we officially how.

1827
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 3: You rated her to begin with? Because she not overrated

1828
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 3: it to me, but I.

1829
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 2: Didn't rate it by certain elements of her skills, from

1830
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: the takedown defense and the head movement to the boxing.

1831
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 2: She did get hit, you can see it in her face,

1832
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 2: like it started to add up. I didn't like how

1833
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 2: quickly she succumbed to being put in a situation where

1834
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 2: she could be yanked back and choked like that. She

1835
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 2: did pretty quick. But it's sort of like she's always

1836
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 2: going to be overrated and underrated at the same time.

1837
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, just judge her by the quality of

1838
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 3: the winds. Who did she beat and how did she

1839
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 3: beat them? She tends to fade over the course of

1840
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 3: about not so much in terms of cardio, but in

1841
01:23:56,160 --> 01:24:00,520
Speaker 3: focus and in offensive urgency. Against a person like Blanchfield,

1842
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 3: you can now see that's a really bad matchup because

1843
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 3: Blanchfield's the opposite kind of Tcha Turus like with no.

1844
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 2: Tscha Torres like in her prime, with no power. But

1845
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 2: she has the rounded out skills in the other areas.

1846
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also Tisha had great footwork and we could

1847
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 3: keep distance. But that lack of power is well, lack

1848
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 3: of power was a big problem for her. So I mean,

1849
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 3: again to your point that you raise, here's what you're observing.

1850
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 3: You're observing that Tracy Cortez has some real skills. She's

1851
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 3: a good, decent anyway athlete certainly, and she can do

1852
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 3: things like she can really take people down. She can

1853
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 3: put good combinations together. She can look the part. By

1854
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 3: the time the fight's over. You tend to have as

1855
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 3: many questions as you do answers about what it all means,

1856
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,719
Speaker 3: and it never really seems to graduate from that position.

1857
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 2: I think that's a fair way to say it. Ethan

1858
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 2: Ewing Shows stole the show on eight days. Notice there.

1859
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 3: He has a big ass head and face doesn't mean.

1860
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 2: Yes he does, and he went in with a big

1861
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 2: ass performance. I thought I was assured he was going

1862
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 2: to get I don't even want to say robbed on

1863
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 2: the score cards because I felt like, I'm like, I

1864
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,719
Speaker 2: don't know. It was a close fight in some key areas,

1865
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 2: but I kind of thought that would it would be

1866
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 2: one of those situations where like, hey, I want to

1867
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 2: see him again. I was impressed with that effort. No,

1868
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 2: he got the win, and it did turn out that

1869
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 2: it was deserved in the end against big time prospect

1870
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:12,640
Speaker 2: despite being thirty one years old, Malcolm Wellmaker Luke. This

1871
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 2: was refreshing to see somebody who had just fought in

1872
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 2: Anti Pettis's promotion the week before, in the main event

1873
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 2: and a championship fight, and turns it around like this

1874
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 2: to change his life, his fortunes, his reputation, his name

1875
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,719
Speaker 2: and one all in one night and kind of kind

1876
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 2: of fraud checking well Maker in the process. But then

1877
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: I saw people being like man UFC got caught here

1878
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 2: with the matchmaking. No, I felt like a really cool

1879
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 2: development happened, and now here's a guy I want to

1880
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 2: see again.

1881
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 3: I do think this was a bad loss for well Maker.

1882
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he walked into shit continuously he had.

1883
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,560
Speaker 3: He had several problems in this fight. One was I

1884
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 3: cannot him.

1885
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 2: I wasn't all in on him. Maybe maybe that's why

1886
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 2: I find I was.

1887
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 3: I was intrigued by him all into strong word. He

1888
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 3: had the same problem. Bo Nickel did a little bit

1889
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,719
Speaker 3: which was neither of them have a jab. It blows

1890
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 3: my fucking who is training MMA, especially if you're in

1891
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:06,759
Speaker 3: your twenties early twenties, mid twenties, Who is training MMA

1892
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 3: right now at that stage and you're not making your

1893
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 3: jab the centerpiece of your offense? Look at me, You're

1894
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 3: fucking up. If you're not doing it.

1895
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 2: You're fucking off head for your moment.

1896
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 3: The other part too. Oh, this is what killed me

1897
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 3: about Wallmaker. He kept trying to do shoulder rolling. That's

1898
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 3: what it looks like if someone tries to do shoulder

1899
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 3: rolling and they don't know how to shoulder roll, where

1900
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,759
Speaker 3: they get hit the entire way anyway, or he doesn't

1901
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 3: really add anything. They just kind of move through the

1902
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:35,719
Speaker 3: process of getting hit. That killed me. He was overly

1903
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 3: reliant on He's got a devastating right hook. That right

1904
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 3: hook is fucking his money maker. And by the way,

1905
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 3: he rung Ewing's bell a couple times as well, but

1906
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 3: he overly relied on it. But really do the story

1907
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 3: is Ewing. Ewing just took the fight to him all

1908
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 3: the way through. Would had a diversified attack, had a

1909
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 3: Wellmaker backing up, just put punches in his face, even

1910
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 3: if all of them weren't devastating, and even.

1911
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 2: When he would get lit up, he would have an answer.

1912
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 3: He would have an answer, and he just kind of

1913
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 3: broke through. I'm not gonna say he broke well Maker,

1914
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 3: but he certainly put him on a place that Willmaker

1915
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 3: was just not expecting. Did not seem very comfortable. And

1916
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 3: just didn't have a lot of answers in the end,

1917
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 3: exactly real quick.

1918
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 2: Fatima Klein against Angela.

1919
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 3: Hill, she looked great. I know.

1920
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 2: She lost her UC debut to Jasmine Jazz Davisius came

1921
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 2: back with two straight knockouts and then in here, skill

1922
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,679
Speaker 2: for skill across the board, she was very far ahead

1923
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 2: of the Angela Hill level and seems to be pointing

1924
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 2: upwards in the.

1925
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 3: Speat her everywhere. Maybe could have stopped her or got

1926
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:29,640
Speaker 3: pretty close earlier in.

1927
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:30,879
Speaker 2: The bowch shouted out Hajeseus.

1928
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,600
Speaker 3: Afterwards, shout about Jesus, you know, as an American, so

1929
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 3: to the extent that that's important for the industry, something

1930
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 3: to keep keep in mind. You see, I thought she

1931
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 3: looked great. She looked devastating, dangerous, well rounded. There wasn't

1932
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 3: a place and Angela Hill is tough as shit, so

1933
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 3: you know, it's a little hard to put her away,

1934
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 3: and some of the very best into the world have

1935
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 3: not been able to do it. But to beat her

1936
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 3: so comprehensively says a lot.

1937
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 2: All right, let me hear who was your other person

1938
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,839
Speaker 2: to get your attention to shine? Is it a blonde

1939
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 2: dyed hair Kyle Dawkas in this return in which he

1940
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 2: won his sake straight second in a row in the UFC.

1941
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 2: There is it Pat Sabatini getting a big win here

1942
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 2: despite some damage.

1943
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 3: It's definitely not gonna be Bison.

1944
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 2: People hate him right now.

1945
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 3: He happened because he acts like he's Kobe and he's

1946
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 3: fighting in the G League. It's like, get it together

1947
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 3: a little bit.

1948
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 2: And was he really down on the scorecards in this fight.

1949
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 2: I mean, mcconico was in it, was landing, but I

1950
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 2: didn't feel like he was, Like.

1951
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 3: I never thought mcconica was really in it, but no,

1952
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 3: he was competitive, but I feel like he was winning. Yeah,

1953
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 3: I didn't think he was putting it on Susir Kayev.

1954
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 3: But Susir Kayev just has this kind of attitude like

1955
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 3: I'm above all of these guys, and I'm like, based

1956
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 3: on what because you beat up some guys on Contender series,

1957
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 3: Like who gives a fuck? Anyway? Kyle dawkas dude more

1958
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 3: than against Copylif Hobocup was good against Copylov, copy Loov

1959
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 3: just kind of seems out of it. He kept they

1960
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 3: had open stands and he kept leaning inside in the

1961
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 3: open stands and then just getting lit up for it,

1962
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 3: so he's a little one note with that. But dude,

1963
01:28:57,840 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 3: Kyle daucas again, you know, what does it mean to

1964
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 3: be Jerald Shark, who I also think is sort of

1965
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 3: getting closer to the end year.

1966
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 2: He only has twenty one career losses.

1967
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 3: Luke is getting a little bit closer to the end here.

1968
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,759
Speaker 3: But Kyle Dakas got bounced from the UFC, as you mentioned,

1969
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 3: had a long road back, gets back and has two

1970
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 3: wins in a row, two first round wins in a

1971
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 3: row two first round obviously finishes in a row. Tremendous return.

1972
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 3: And by the way, it looks better like it's not

1973
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 3: just that he's beating Oh you're back and now you're

1974
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 3: beating guys. He's looking smooth and efficient with his boxing.

1975
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 3: I absolutely think he's brought it along. Shouts to Kyle

1976
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 3: Dwkas a fun little win.

1977
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 2: B It was a great nutty. Even with if you

1978
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 2: were not interrow, if you lost your bets and you

1979
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 2: were not entertaining in the final two fights, even with that,

1980
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 2: this was a well matched card. You know, I don't

1981
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 2: really pop for their gate records because I know the

1982
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 2: price is just keeping getting jacked up. But like the

1983
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 2: crowd was awesome. It was a damn brawl in there

1984
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 2: for you know. Unfortunately didn't look like too many people

1985
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 2: got hurt that didn't deserve it. Luke you know or

1986
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 2: whatever didn't have it coming. By the way, On that note,

1987
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 2: Javia Mendez was on Submission Radio today in which he

1988
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 2: claims that Dylan Danis was showing went to the section

1989
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 2: where all the Dagistan fighters were sitting, put his phone

1990
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,560
Speaker 2: up and was showing an AI image of Islam and

1991
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 2: Ali kissing doing porn and then also was like mocking

1992
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 2: the religion, like I have no sympathy for this guy.

1993
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 3: You want to should we have?

1994
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:19,639
Speaker 2: No, We'll do that. Have you seen this shit?

1995
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 3: Sorry?

1996
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was jumping the gun right there. I loved

1997
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 2: it long. Can I get your closing thoughts on UFC

1998
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,640
Speaker 2: three twenty two anybody we overlooked here in our analysis

1999
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 2: or just like it felt like Mma was back, dude,

2000
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2001
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 5: It was a great night. I don't know if it's

2002
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 5: just because we were there BC, but I felt like

2003
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 5: a new energy man. It was, yes, But I do

2004
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 5: want to say that, uh ship, what were we just

2005
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 5: talking about?

2006
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 3: I'm blanking who else on the card? Impressed you.

2007
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 12: Uh.

2008
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 5: I feel like you guys covered everything. It was something else. Yeah,

2009
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 5: I'm blanking them all right.

2010
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 2: I was great talking to you though.

2011
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're here.

2012
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,719
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to topic number five. This won't

2013
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 2: take long. Even though the fight took twelve rounds. I

2014
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 2: got to give them credit here. The rematch Chris you

2015
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 2: Bank Junior versus Connor Ben the try at Tottenham hotspurts

2016
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 2: Stadium felt a lot like the first fight, which to

2017
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 2: me was the fight of the year back in April,

2018
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 2: one of the craziest fights of this decade in terms

2019
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 2: of just drama presentation. The rematch didn't turn that way

2020
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 2: despite Luke. That walkout of that was Chris you Bank Jr.

2021
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 2: With his dad next to him. He's wearing a fur coat,

2022
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 2: fifty said, walking out in the stadium like fire works gone.

2023
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 3: I mean, fifty taken a few l's recently. He went out.

2024
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 3: He went. He was opposite mom, Donnie. That didn't go great,

2025
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 3: and now here he is walking out with you Bank, who.

2026
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,679
Speaker 2: Looked terrible, but that moment was awesome.

2027
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 3: That's one of the better walkouts I've seen it in

2028
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 3: a lot.

2029
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 2: They set the stage for what they got, But what

2030
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 2: they got in the end was a weight during Chris

2031
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,640
Speaker 2: U Bank Junior for the second straight time accepting the

2032
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 2: rehydration clause. This time you saw the effects of it

2033
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 2: more than his decision win in the first round in

2034
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 2: the first meeting. This one went the distance, but it

2035
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 2: was a wide unanimous decision win for Connor Ben. So Luke,

2036
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 2: what do we really say about this?

2037
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 3: Because what the fuck was that once sixteen scorecard? Oh?

2038
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 2: Eight rounds to four?

2039
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what what four rounds did?

2040
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 2: Fucking Bank got dropped in twice in round twelve, could

2041
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:09,759
Speaker 2: have been stopped. There was just beaten to the punch

2042
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 2: thro route. It's like one narrative I'm seeing coming off

2043
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:15,800
Speaker 2: is what a waste of time? No need to even

2044
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 2: talk about it. You Bank was weight drained. Maybe he

2045
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 2: wasn't weight drained on the level of Oscar against Manny,

2046
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 2: but he was weight drained and he was really never

2047
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 2: in this. I also think you got to give Connor

2048
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 2: Ben respect because he's fighting against the middleweight at one sixty.

2049
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 2: Yes with the rehidration clause, but he once again was

2050
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 2: the puncher and took it to him. That's why I

2051
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 2: picked him to win by decision. I just didn't think

2052
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 2: it would be this one sided. Where are you leaning

2053
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 2: in your Ultimately? What did we learn from this event?

2054
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,520
Speaker 3: People are making the wrong argument about the weight rehydration

2055
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,560
Speaker 3: because what they're saying is, well, he agreed to it,

2056
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 3: and if it negatively affected him, then that's just the

2057
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 3: risk that he accepted. Now, that is true, and I

2058
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 3: agree with that part, But they keep not realizing there

2059
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,679
Speaker 3: are a finite amount of times you can drain yourself

2060
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 3: the way he did to make the first fight and

2061
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 3: the way in which he did, plus the nature of

2062
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 3: that fight, and then the nature of the controversial amount

2063
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 3: of speedy recovery he was entitled to with the ambulance

2064
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 3: not being able to leave the arena. How true it is,

2065
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 3: I don't know, but certainly at a bare minimum, the

2066
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 3: weight cut itself, and then the brutal fight itself. Dude,

2067
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 3: when Teddy Atlas says things like guys leave a piece

2068
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 3: of themselves in the ring every time they go, that's

2069
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 3: always true, and that was especially true. He clearly is

2070
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 3: not the same person anymore. He should not be fighting well.

2071
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 3: I mean, he needs to find a weight where he

2072
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 3: doesn't have to do this anymore, because this is a

2073
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 3: path to nothingness. He cannot beat anyone good in this

2074
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 3: state at that weight class.

2075
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 2: No he should. If you want to keep fighting, he

2076
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 2: should use his name. Go back up to sixty eight.

2077
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 3: Take totally totally. So I agree with you that Ben

2078
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 3: clearly looked ready to go and fine tune some things.

2079
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 3: I absolutely thought he was just a little bit more precise, Yes,

2080
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 3: a little bit more patient, a little bit more careful.

2081
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 3: But I'm sorry it takes someone blind to not notice

2082
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:06,600
Speaker 3: that you Bank looked like he was moving underwater. And

2083
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 3: there's no way to watch this fight without taking that

2084
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:09,799
Speaker 3: into account.

2085
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:11,839
Speaker 2: Here's you Bank reacting to his defeat.

2086
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 14: Yeah, I've been through helen back to make it here today.

2087
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 14: I genuinely thought that, regardless of the issues that I've

2088
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 14: been dealing with, I would be able to go in

2089
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 14: there and when you use my boxing skills, use what

2090
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 14: you guys saw in that first fight to be comed

2091
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 14: in from that first round. I realized that I was mistaken.

2092
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,600
Speaker 14: But it's okay. You know, I'm a finding this is

2093
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 14: what I do, regardless of you know, the dangers and

2094
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 14: the uh the risk, you know, we go to what

2095
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 14: that's what we do. I tried my best Connor Ben

2096
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 14: on a hand of a fight.

2097
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 2: He did put on a hell of a fight. Luke

2098
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 2: Ben should get a big fight off of this. This

2099
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 2: was a comeback, you know, win regardless of all that,

2100
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:13,719
Speaker 2: on a very big stage. Should it be at forty

2101
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:15,640
Speaker 2: seven where he did his best work at scene but

2102
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 2: had ped issues. Should it be at fifty four where

2103
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 2: when he was I guess Klan, he looked not the best,

2104
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 2: But in these fights have dramatically recharged his value. I

2105
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 2: think it's made him a better fighter. These are difficult challenges,

2106
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 2: even with the rehydration, especially the first fight against you Bank.

2107
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 2: There's a lot of big names out there. How do

2108
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 2: you cash in on this? If you're Connor Ben and

2109
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 2: you're Eddie Heard.

2110
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:40,560
Speaker 3: I don't personally care which way class it is, but

2111
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 3: I think if you've been this big for now this long,

2112
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 3: going right back to forty seven seems like a bad idea.

2113
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,560
Speaker 3: I think, no matter what, the next fight has to

2114
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 3: be at fifty four. Now, how they do that? Do

2115
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 3: they tune up a guy? Do they give him something

2116
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 3: a little bit more illustrious with an opponent that people

2117
01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 3: really care about. I don't know how to answer that one,

2118
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 3: but at forty seven, next seems like suicide.

2119
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 2: But at fifty four, we have a lot of names,

2120
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:06,680
Speaker 2: but we haven't gotten to the point where they've all

2121
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 2: fought to figure out who the number one guy is.

2122
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 2: The you guys who don't have titles, Boot Sennas and

2123
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 2: Virgil Ortiz, we're talking about sometimes at a higher level

2124
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 2: than Fondora or Mertizaliev. I don't know if any single

2125
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 2: fight against any of those names really is a event yet, though.

2126
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna make something up.

2127
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 2: You're gonna say Errel Spencer.

2128
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Eryl Spence.

2129
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 2: I kind of like that.

2130
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:29,560
Speaker 3: I kind of like that, kind of true, kind of

2131
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 3: like that. I think that'd be an interesting one.

2132
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:32,560
Speaker 2: M Charlo.

2133
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I take it.

2134
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 2: Okay, those aren't soccer stadium fights, but they're big.

2135
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 3: But they're big. And also the Charlo's always got a

2136
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 3: chip on their shoulders, so they'd make it a little

2137
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:45,680
Speaker 3: bit chick.

2138
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:46,599
Speaker 2: It would make it spicy.

2139
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, they tried on Saturday. I don't need a

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Speaker 2: trilogy if you want to do it. At the end,

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Speaker 2: I mean you almost even.

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Speaker 3: Ben said afterwards, were done.

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Speaker 2: First win in the family series for the Ben family.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but even then they said we're done and I

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Speaker 3: don't need to see them fight again.

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Speaker 2: No Turkey teas, some big announcements for next year. I

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Speaker 2: didn't think this was a great undercard, but whatever.

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Speaker 3: Jason Satham was there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Rod Stewart too, We'll get the.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, right there, all right?

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Speaker 3: Why were you making that face when I was doing

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Speaker 3: the read?

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Speaker 2: I don't remember at that moment, Luke, You know I

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Speaker 2: make different faces at different times. Look, due to our

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Speaker 3: Sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, don't forget that. You can reach out to our

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Speaker 2: show right now, Morning Coombat at gmail dot com, and

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Speaker 2: you can load up for this Friday when we find

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Speaker 2: out what's in your fan subs, your dead wrongs. You

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Speaker 2: want to reach out to the show. You want to

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Speaker 2: say hi, You want to show Mikey your piece Morning

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Speaker 2: Combat at gmail dot Calm. All right, I have Luke

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Speaker 2: an ambitious and overloading set of shit. As I scoured

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Speaker 2: the globe on Sunday for the good, the bad, the ugly,

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Speaker 2: the you know all that stuff combat sports. Beyond that, Luke,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to show you the most viral videos available

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Speaker 2: to a man these days. Get your reaction. This one's

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Speaker 2: called have you seen this Ship?

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Speaker 3: By the way, I have to take a big ass

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Speaker 3: dump when this is over.

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Speaker 2: This is great, thank you for sharing that. By the way,

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Speaker 2: the no ship bathroom is back, but still no ship.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna the same, okay, all right?

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Speaker 3: Randy klaid In uh In was a kingpin. Yes when

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Speaker 3: he took a ship in the pissar. Yeah.

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01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 2: Look, this is one of the This UFC three twenty

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Speaker 2: two is a big theme on today's Have you Seen

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Speaker 2: This Ship? But how about has Bulah.

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Speaker 3: Who was part of the Why did he have a DoorDash?

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Speaker 5: We watch this?

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Speaker 2: Luke, your dasher sending proof your order was delivered. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, Luke, but it was brilliant. See how happy

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Speaker 2: he was in the videos of him, like eating that

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Speaker 2: famous forty five dollars pizza backstage with a meb. Two

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01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:58,840
Speaker 2: of them were just found in the corner like just

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Speaker 2: pay all right. It was very cute, Luke. This was

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Speaker 2: my own celcam footage from cage side after the bow

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Speaker 2: Nickel preliminary. This is me filming this. Watch the security

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Speaker 2: guard right there, the old guy. He's gonna get kicked

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Speaker 2: in the face by Dylan Dan. It's coming up. Oh,

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01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,639
Speaker 2: I didn't capture it in full, but this shoes. Yes,

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01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 2: this was sort of the tail end of this Danis

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01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 2: brawl against uh, the entire extended Islam mahaf team. Where

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Speaker 2: As Dana said all the Muslims in.

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Speaker 3: The world or whatever he said, you called them the

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Speaker 3: Muslim brotherhood, yes, which I know he didn't mean bad

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01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 3: by it. That is a specific group that's not so nice.

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01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 2: That is not so nice. So uh Chunko aka John

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01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 2: Pork was a big part that I saw Muslim Solikov.

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01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:50,479
Speaker 2: We'll get to that. Abu kar Yeah, there was all

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01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 2: that part of it. And as we're talking about on

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01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 2: this extended like this is a stupid story. It was

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Speaker 2: a quick thing. Luckily no one got seriously hurt. I

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01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 2: just can't believe how many people are defending Dylan Danis

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01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 2: and trying to completely victimize it.

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01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 3: Is true that like just because he has trolled people

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01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 3: does not allow does not mean that they have a

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Speaker 3: right to physically assault him.

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Speaker 2: I'm not living full on on the creed of what

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Speaker 2: the Augustine has been saying in interviews after of like

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Speaker 2: you said one bad thing about us once, Yes, next

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Speaker 2: time we see you will kill you.

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Speaker 3: He is right in that sense. But when you're showing

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Speaker 3: up like you know, poking the bear right right, This

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Speaker 3: is my point. If you're coming up and your goal

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Speaker 3: is to This is the argument against Dannis, which is

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Speaker 3: he is quite clearly he's not famous anymore because of

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Speaker 3: his fighting exploits BC. He's a provocateur. Congratulations, you provoked.

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Speaker 2: Him, Yes, you got what you paid for.

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Speaker 3: This is they don't have a right to touch him.

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Speaker 3: I understand, I get it. I'm not defending it. I'm

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Speaker 3: simply saying here in the real world, if you provoke people,

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Speaker 3: do they respond? Yeah, so sometimes they do.

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Speaker 2: Even though danis exited in cuffs, Dana and the post

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01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 2: far press conference said he wasn't going to press charges.

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01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:03,600
Speaker 2: A lot of people then journalists even got after me

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01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 2: and say, I'm like, why didn't you guys push First

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Speaker 2: of all, I wasn't even at the post by press conference.

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01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 2: I was doing HQ in the hotel room. But they

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01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:10,800
Speaker 2: were like, why didn't you guys push him? To see

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01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,640
Speaker 2: why those guys didn't get arrested? Again, you show up

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Speaker 2: in the fighter seats, you leave your seats to sit

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Speaker 2: in fighter seats, and you're trying to stay.

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Speaker 3: They got kicked out too. They watched, they did, they

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Speaker 3: had to watch, so they.

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Speaker 2: Came back after the fight, and then security instantly got around.

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Speaker 2: Here's a reverse angle where you get to see some

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01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 2: of Chonko aka Magomed Zanikoff, who really sto entire weekend.

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Speaker 2: He's got a hat on there. But this was sort

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Speaker 2: of the behind view of how it did kick off,

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Speaker 2: and once it kicked off, it got crazy fast and

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Speaker 2: spread over to the the media section, spread into the

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Speaker 2: area around the octagon. Again, I'm not saying like this

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Speaker 2: is Look there's a chair involved.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is great from Team Islam. This

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Speaker 2: is not great behavior. But this is an extension of

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Speaker 2: UFC two twenty nine. It really is, right.

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Speaker 3: So I just want to say, Dylan Danis has been

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Speaker 3: involved in two of the most famous brawls in crowd

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Speaker 3: brawls in UFC history.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and he's a He's a cloud chaser who shows

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Speaker 2: up at miss you know, misfits boxing and gets in

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Speaker 2: in fights in the parking lot Long Island.

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Speaker 3: Where are you on the Danis equation?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I was oblivious to all this shit even

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01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,320
Speaker 5: going down till I saw BC's tweet like two hours

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Speaker 5: after it happened. But uh yeah, I'm not high on

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Speaker 5: the guy at all.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, you can't assault people for what they say.

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01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 3: You shouldn't do it. And if they had press charges, fine,

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, dude, if you try to

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Speaker 3: piss people off, listen, I had, I had, I had

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Speaker 3: someone explain this to me once. If you try your

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Speaker 3: best to piss people off, you do not get to

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Speaker 3: act surprise when you succeed.

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Speaker 2: Well period. Well look, John Pork whether he doesn't like

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Speaker 2: so technically he doesn't like to be called John Pork,

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Speaker 2: which is an Italian brain rock character. My son's into

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01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:49,200
Speaker 2: it huge. I know people are connecting it to the

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Speaker 2: Muslim religion and you know, and I get that, but

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01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 2: he has become an overnight sensation reality. His nickname is Chanco,

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01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:57,040
Speaker 2: which is the name of his village in Dagistan. According

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01:45:57,080 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 2: to Islam, that's what they call him. His real name

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01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 2: is what Myanakov is a former you know, recognized sambo champion,

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01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 2: won his Danawite Contender series. Is probably been a good fighter,

2338
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 2: but I don't think anyone, including him, expected this takeoff

2339
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:12,720
Speaker 2: this week. When I sat down at media Day, my

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01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:15,040
Speaker 2: first question Islam was like, is that John Pork over there?

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01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:17,560
Speaker 2: And like they brought him over? They were kind of

2342
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:20,280
Speaker 2: he's a meme, dude, He's a meme, but like to

2343
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 2: the level of overnight celebrity. Here's him after the brawl,

2344
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 2: posting a picture with horaey Masvil with bloody knuckles. That

2345
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 2: just continues because he beat up a guy most people

2346
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:31,640
Speaker 2: don't like, and he did get big shots in on that.

2347
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 2: And here is on Friday at the at the press conference.

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Speaker 2: Was this No at the way and sorry wait.

2349
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:39,520
Speaker 5: No, this was the press conference on Thursday.

2350
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:53,480
Speaker 2: Thursday's press conference. Holy shit, listen to this reaction. It's ridiculous,

2351
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 2: but I love it.

2352
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:55,639
Speaker 3: Good for him, Good for him.

2353
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 2: So even I took a picture and and people are like, oh,

2354
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 2: you're being disrespectful, call him John Port, I was like,

2355
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:02,240
Speaker 2: that's all I knew him as, all right when I

2356
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:04,599
Speaker 2: took this picture. He was cool, he laughed. I told

2357
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 2: him much out for Timmy cheese and uh whatever. But

2358
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:09,680
Speaker 2: even if we're going to move to Shanko, dude, this

2359
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 2: do better take advantage of this because because this is uh,

2360
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:14,400
Speaker 2: this is an overnight starter.

2361
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:16,719
Speaker 3: You can meme your way to start him so fast.

2362
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go. My family.

2363
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 5: I just want to say pre press conference, they cheered

2364
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 5: for him probably ten different times, like every five minutes.

2365
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 5: They would start the cheer and then he'd walk over

2366
01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 5: and get like a huge ovasion.

2367
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 2: I mean, it's involved in the connected of the overall,

2368
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 2: like what the hell are we doing with six seven

2369
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:32,200
Speaker 2: and all this stupidness. It's stupid, It's stupid as shit.

2370
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 2: Sometimes you can use that to Uh, and I think

2371
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 2: he has escalated that. Look elsewhere at UFC three twenty two,

2372
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:42,640
Speaker 2: Reel recognized real when Polton uh stepped away from his

2373
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 2: accounting job to take this picture with Big a Bang.

2374
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 3: Yeah they did.

2375
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 2: Joan Joula was there for, of course, to check out

2376
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 2: Jeong Wyley. He was sitting with the leech, who was uh,

2377
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:57,559
Speaker 2: Big a Bang Oh cool Chinese power.

2378
01:47:57,840 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have to call him big a Bank.

2379
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 2: That's how he pronounces it.

2380
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:03,640
Speaker 5: I know the leech train with Wayley or anything. I

2381
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 5: know they're both Chinese, but he was like with her

2382
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 5: at media day and all that stuff, so I don't

2383
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 5: know if he's with her.

2384
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 2: John Wood was in the corner of Whaley. Yes, yes, okay,

2385
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 2: even though brad Redelle seemed to do a good part

2386
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 2: of that training camp in Thailand. This was the Charles

2387
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:21,000
Speaker 2: the Carlos protest. Excuse me, Marlborough designed car that was

2388
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 2: making its way around NYC. Proctice said, it's not his car,

2389
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 2: but look what do you make of this? Protest, of course,

2390
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 2: also said that the UFC would not allow a tobaccos.

2391
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:30,639
Speaker 3: I mean, that's cool as ship. I've never thought cigarettes

2392
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:32,919
Speaker 3: were cool. I meant, excuse me. I haven't thought cigarettes

2393
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 3: were cool in a very long time, but this is

2394
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 3: making me reconsiderate.

2395
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:38,920
Speaker 2: Hashtag the fight nerds. He's everyone's favorite fight nerd during

2396
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 2: a time when everyone's turning on the fight.

2397
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:42,599
Speaker 3: You know, well, he's also winning, so that helps.

2398
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:46,600
Speaker 2: Okay. Speaking of protest Luke, everyone loves him, even in

2399
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 2: Ian Gary's son Leo, come here.

2400
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 6: The Kama has a question for you. Who is your

2401
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 6: favorite fighter?

2402
01:48:58,880 --> 01:48:59,640
Speaker 3: Kelly's nat.

2403
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 6: Imagine being a man up for twenty twenty three and

2404
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:06,680
Speaker 6: a half minutes and then leaving the fight and your

2405
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 6: son's favorite fighters the other.

2406
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 3: Cool The media shut it in. That's the most cuck

2407
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 3: thing about him. The other stuff I don't give a

2408
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 3: shit about that.

2409
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 2: That's Islam. Fight week would not be complete. Neither would

2410
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 2: a Poeton or Chamaia one without picking on d C.

2411
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 3: Right, okay, all they all call him fat.

2412
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 2: I mean this is this was herbibh taking DC down

2413
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 2: before he was ready at the at the practice gym.

2414
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:33,640
Speaker 2: Let's check it out.

2415
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 3: Let's go, d see, Let's go.

2416
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 8: Don't push my face?

2417
01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:37,719
Speaker 2: Please?

2418
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 5: Why because how can you ask to grapple not be

2419
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 5: your face to get touched?

2420
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 3: So you try to bully? This is crazy.

2421
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 2: I don't need to.

2422
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 8: I'm looking like to it.

2423
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:49,759
Speaker 3: You're like babies.

2424
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:51,679
Speaker 4: No, you're not baby.

2425
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:54,720
Speaker 2: Let's they love him.

2426
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:58,759
Speaker 3: You take mom, you take the see, dude, the door

2427
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 3: styles in d C. It is the best, buddy, because

2428
01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 3: it's great.

2429
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:06,040
Speaker 2: I've ever seen a long time come getting help.

2430
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 3: Police. I'm telling you, dude, these guys.

2431
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:17,840
Speaker 2: The beams owner in here. But he's been training like yeah, I.

2432
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 3: Mean also, you know DC is real fat. Yeah, I've

2433
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 3: been grappling for two years exactly speaking. These guys, they're

2434
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:27,519
Speaker 3: broken English. I'm telling you, it makes them funnier and more.

2435
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 2: It's almost like Triple G but with a harder edge.

2436
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 3: Yes, you know.

2437
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,519
Speaker 2: And then here is when they sat down, Islam had

2438
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:35,280
Speaker 2: another you know, intervention about his weight.

2439
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:38,519
Speaker 3: Brother, I'm happy that you're building a lot of colors.

2440
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 3: I always, always, always I live weight. You comment, you say,

2441
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:44,840
Speaker 3: this guy work hard.

2442
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,120
Speaker 8: When I see you for something inside the gym, I'm

2443
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 8: like really happy. Why because brother, people look at you

2444
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 8: and thinking this is like one of the best fighter

2445
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 8: of all the them.

2446
01:50:55,400 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 2: And it was even when I fighting, people think this.

2447
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 3: When the fight thing, it looks good man.

2448
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I look good now too. Oh that's great.

2449
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 3: That's their whole stick is hilarious to me.

2450
01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:12,599
Speaker 2: Let's go out to England fit check. Update on one

2451
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:15,720
Speaker 2: Versace Rick Reno Luke, who is called this week on

2452
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:19,639
Speaker 2: an X everything from timu Elton John to a man

2453
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:22,559
Speaker 2: cause playing as his sixty year old Nana's handbag.

2454
01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 3: How did he end up here.

2455
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:27,320
Speaker 2: Turkey's elevation?

2456
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 3: Do you understand like this is only a way that

2457
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:34,280
Speaker 3: you dress if you're you lost a bet? Right?

2458
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 2: Do you think he looks like Nana's handbag or what.

2459
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 3: He Honestly, he looks like missus doubtfire without the mask, right.

2460
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 2: Oh, Ricky. Speaking of grandparents, it's time for some quick

2461
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:51,080
Speaker 2: elder abuse, Luke. We haven't had this in a while.

2462
01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 2: Watch out Grandpa is on the rascal again, a rascal

2463
01:51:56,600 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 2: king do it again? Okay, Grandma hit the brakes, please

2464
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 2: hit the brakes, right, Yeah, no remorse either, all right,

2465
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 2: not giving a Let's go to the gender reveal. But

2466
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 2: you gotta protect the boiler when you do these things, right, Luke,

2467
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:15,720
Speaker 2: what do you think it would be a girl or

2468
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 2: a boy?

2469
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 3: Here, that's a boiler with a thing.

2470
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:23,680
Speaker 2: No, boiler's in the orange to the right, that's her daughter. Oh,

2471
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:24,639
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a boy.

2472
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:32,560
Speaker 3: It's gonna be Ay. Just macing the fuck out of

2473
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:33,000
Speaker 3: her with this.

2474
01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 2: The great muta mists spin all over your face. That's fantastic.

2475
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna go. Also, hear about grandma in the back seat.

2476
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:44,280
Speaker 5: You guys, ever been smoking a cigarette? Flick the butt

2477
01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:45,320
Speaker 5: out the window.

2478
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 15: Going down the freeway, like four or five minutes later,

2479
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:53,559
Speaker 15: you smell something disgusting coming from the back, so you look.

2480
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:59,160
Speaker 3: Grandma's back their finger in her Okay, I.

2481
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,760
Speaker 2: Don't know what I was supposed to prove, Luke, A

2482
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:05,519
Speaker 2: you're gonna wear this to the Christmas Thomas Family Christmas

2483
01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:06,080
Speaker 2: party or no.

2484
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 3: You jingle my bells, I'll give you a white Christmas.

2485
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:11,639
Speaker 3: I don't know if my wife would like that too much.

2486
01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 2: Okay, Look this was found on the streets of Miami.

2487
01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:17,680
Speaker 2: They call it the Gluckluck Mobile. Would you drive this?

2488
01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 3: That's that Donald Trump Bill.

2489
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:21,679
Speaker 14: Yeah.

2490
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 2: It was also a big week for Rod Stewart Luke First,

2491
01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 2: Stuart's forty five year old son Sean made his pro

2492
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 2: boxing debut at a Misfits card in Nashville. Bend the

2493
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:37,040
Speaker 2: bane on the call and watch what happens fifteen seconds

2494
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 2: in against somebody called b Dave.

2495
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:39,880
Speaker 3: I'm afraid of the power.

2496
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 14: Oh oh.

2497
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 3: Son be day flatline Rod Stuart Son in round one.

2498
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:56,680
Speaker 3: He's got a mullet doing the little bit in a

2499
01:53:56,800 --> 01:54:00,720
Speaker 3: boxing match against a forty five year old man the call, dude,

2500
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 3: that's an American as it gets.

2501
01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:05,760
Speaker 2: The eighty year old Rod Stewart was also front row

2502
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:08,920
Speaker 2: at U Bank Ben two in London, sitting next to

2503
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,000
Speaker 2: Pierce Brosnan and Michael Buffer.

2504
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:13,760
Speaker 3: Dude, how does Rod Stewart look the same as he

2505
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 3: did when I was a kid? No fucking insane.

2506
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:18,560
Speaker 2: Rod's boxing biop.

2507
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:20,639
Speaker 3: Like Michael Buffer looking a little bit like the grip

2508
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:21,960
Speaker 3: keeper these days looking like a.

2509
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 2: Wax version of himself. Stuart's boxing biopic also hit theaters

2510
01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 2: this week, with Sydney Sweeney playing the lead role.

2511
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 3: Luke, why is that fucking dog being held like that? Rod?

2512
01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:36,880
Speaker 2: Looks like you can still fight though, right.

2513
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:40,320
Speaker 3: Just disappointment Sydney's.

2514
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 2: That's Christy Martin.

2515
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 3: Luca, Oh yeah, right, that's Christy Martin.

2516
01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you catch that all right?

2517
01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 3: I didn't even recognize her.

2518
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you very much. Right there, Luke. We

2519
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:54,680
Speaker 2: know you love to read, so how about this for

2520
01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 2: a Christmas idea?

2521
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:59,000
Speaker 3: Uh, how to fart into your hand and release it

2522
01:54:59,000 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 3: into someone's nose.

2523
01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:04,920
Speaker 2: It's easy reading there, Luke. Also, I know you're always

2524
01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 2: talking ship about zuck but Luke, he will kick your ass,

2525
01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:09,360
Speaker 2: including according to Dana.

2526
01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 13: By the way, to people talk about Zuckerberg, Zuckerberg is

2527
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 13: actually a great athlete.

2528
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:16,080
Speaker 2: He trains and m m a serfs.

2529
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:16,800
Speaker 13: He does all this ship.

2530
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 3: You know, everybody.

2531
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 13: Will beat the ship out of you. Okay, everybody thinks

2532
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 13: he's some you know, some computer nerd. Mark Zuckerberg will

2533
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 13: beat the living.

2534
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 3: Ship out of you.

2535
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:31,600
Speaker 2: All these guys that talk stuff about him on the internet,

2536
01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 2: who would have won? Listen, that's Elon is as much

2537
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:38,560
Speaker 2: older than.

2538
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 4: No.

2539
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 3: He wouldn't. I'd beat that motherfucker within an inch of

2540
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 3: his life?

2541
01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 2: Would you? Would you put him in a submission hold?

2542
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 3: I would fuck him up? Six waist Sunday.

2543
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 2: I mean he took he took a poton down Lucas.

2544
01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:57,080
Speaker 2: Time to play rate that tat one to ten ten

2545
01:55:57,160 --> 01:56:00,280
Speaker 2: being awesome. They call this one the face to face tat.

2546
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:02,880
Speaker 3: Well, that's the worst tattoo.

2547
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:06,680
Speaker 2: It's kind of well done, right, Why would you do that?

2548
01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:09,280
Speaker 3: I don't face, I don't know what are you going to?

2549
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:10,520
Speaker 3: You move closer to the mic?

2550
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 2: What do you give that? A four?

2551
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 3: A's a negative eight?

2552
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:16,240
Speaker 2: Okay? All right, let's go to this leg tat, Luke.

2553
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 2: There's a lot of detail on this. How would you

2554
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:18,960
Speaker 2: rate that one to ten?

2555
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:26,280
Speaker 3: You know what, it's actually a great tattoo. That's an eight.

2556
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 3: That's an eight and a half.

2557
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:30,880
Speaker 2: Okay, okay uh. And also, Luke, check out this tip

2558
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 2: on tip back tat.

2559
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 3: Wow, man, can you imagine going to the tattoo place

2560
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 3: and being like, I need this fucking bullshit? Yeah, a

2561
01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 3: little sisteine chapel kind of I mean that's a five,

2562
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:46,520
Speaker 3: you know, all.

2563
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 2: Right, Luke, it's crazy out there on the streets. These days,

2564
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 2: you gotta be careful who you flip off. You know

2565
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:52,040
Speaker 2: you don't want to do You don't want to press people.

2566
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Speaker 2: You don't want to show Augustan people pictures of Ali

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01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 2: and kissing on Ai.

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01:56:57,400 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 3: You know, morning driver may be drinking off possible, that

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01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:01,960
Speaker 3: is a real problem.

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01:57:02,200 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 2: And Luke, here's your shuttle driver today.

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01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 3: Your shuttle bus driver is Hugo at the.

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01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 2: Unit of that.

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01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure how helpful that isn't getting from

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01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 3: point A to point B, but good to know.

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01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:19,480
Speaker 2: The Bud Crawford World Tour saw real getting real with

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01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 2: him and Oo Sick listen.

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01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 6: In Stop.

2578
01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:33,040
Speaker 2: Talk about and Boxing.

2579
01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 3: They clearly have an admiration for each other.

2580
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:40,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely raw Dog Royval hit the podcast scene and was

2581
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 2: asked about the potential flight at the White House.

2582
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 3: You want to fight at the White House.

2583
01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 5: I'm sure every fighter wants that, or maybe not, maybe

2584
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:46,400
Speaker 5: there's some No.

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01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 7: I don't give at fighting the White House. I want

2586
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:49,640
Speaker 7: to fight in front of big crowds.

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01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:49,760
Speaker 13: Bro.

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01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:51,640
Speaker 7: It's like, how big can the White House even like

2589
01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:55,120
Speaker 7: have of a stadium? That's like is that outside too?

2590
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 7: It's like, I'm pretty sure it's only going to be

2591
01:57:57,400 --> 01:57:59,160
Speaker 7: like invited people, So it's not going to be like

2592
01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:01,560
Speaker 7: true mm A, yeah, yeah, bro, I don't. I don't

2593
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:04,240
Speaker 7: give about any of our political figures right now, and

2594
01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:06,280
Speaker 7: it's like to fight in front of them just seems

2595
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 7: like some hunger games type, Like I don't give a

2596
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 7: fight in front of a bunch of billionaires and rich

2597
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 7: people that give a shit less about me and throwing parlays.

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01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:17,920
Speaker 4: It's like, what do you guys?

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01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:19,560
Speaker 7: I want to fight in front of people that are

2600
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:21,640
Speaker 7: raw Dog fans, are fans of then May and like

2601
01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:24,720
Speaker 7: you know that are like that could relate to me.

2602
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:30,080
Speaker 7: It's like, I'm not trying to fight these all these politicians.

2603
01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:33,000
Speaker 7: So in my opinion, like I'm.

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01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:35,600
Speaker 3: Look, that was hot Chips podcast, dude, that went viral

2605
01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:37,720
Speaker 3: as ship. Have you noticed that I have all the

2606
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:39,400
Speaker 3: political websites picked it up?

2607
01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:40,840
Speaker 2: Is he the hero we need? Luke?

2608
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 3: People are trying to make it there's a little bit

2609
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:46,960
Speaker 3: of an undertone to politicization politicization of it, But I'm

2610
01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 3: gonna point out.

2611
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:48,680
Speaker 2: Is and I don't mean a hero we need on

2612
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:51,080
Speaker 2: which side? I just mean, like, is should the White

2613
01:58:51,120 --> 01:58:52,080
Speaker 2: House even be a part of Well?

2614
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 3: This is what I'm saying. His request was I want

2615
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:55,920
Speaker 3: to fight in front of real fans. Yeah, seems pretty

2616
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 3: fair to me, Luke.

2617
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:00,840
Speaker 2: Playing a competitive sports is very dangerous these days, so

2618
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:03,520
Speaker 2: watch your kids. Let's first go to the soccer field.

2619
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:06,760
Speaker 2: Check out this indoor soccer trick shot attempt by this guy.

2620
01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:11,040
Speaker 3: Pretty cool, right, Yeah, what a stupid ass sport.

2621
01:59:11,160 --> 01:59:15,400
Speaker 2: Oh yes, uh, I like soccer. But what about football, Luke?

2622
01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:17,080
Speaker 2: Check out this touchdown celebration.

2623
01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:23,560
Speaker 3: That's the Ronaldo celebrate. Oh, that's the Ronaldo celebration.

2624
01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll never walk again. Let's go to Maryland basketball.

2625
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:31,520
Speaker 2: Here's Pharrell pain pain being the operative word here. Luke

2626
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:35,280
Speaker 2: is not a I by the way, Oh God.

2627
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:38,200
Speaker 3: Oh Jesus to Christ.

2628
01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:40,280
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I don't. I don't. I don't accept that

2629
01:59:40,360 --> 01:59:42,320
Speaker 2: kind of talking. That talk. There's the door you can

2630
01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:42,760
Speaker 2: get out with it.

2631
01:59:42,840 --> 01:59:44,880
Speaker 3: You're gonna jump me, Yeah I am.

2632
01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 2: Actually it's justified. Also, let's listen in on this referee and.

2633
01:59:48,800 --> 01:59:52,400
Speaker 14: That fortunate hiconduct number eighty eight on the defense has

2634
01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:53,760
Speaker 14: made this qualified.

2635
01:59:55,080 --> 02:00:05,120
Speaker 2: Off call there on eighty eight. Luke, Oh wow, that'll

2636
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:08,360
Speaker 2: be another flag. Okay, Wow, that's uh that was the

2637
02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:09,320
Speaker 2: guy he just threw out.

2638
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, dude, that is fucked up man. All right, well,

2639
02:00:13,720 --> 02:00:15,440
Speaker 3: you got any divorce proceedings to show us to.

2640
02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:19,360
Speaker 2: This is a crazy week in politics, Luke, let's make

2641
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:25,840
Speaker 2: red hats great again. What do you think? MafA? I'm sorry, Maha,

2642
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:31,240
Speaker 2: mauh marha. There you go. Also, let's close with this, Luke.

2643
02:00:31,280 --> 02:00:34,200
Speaker 2: Imagine if your best friend had gone into a coma

2644
02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:35,440
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety.

2645
02:00:35,240 --> 02:00:37,760
Speaker 3: Eight, okay, and you're just you're graduated high school and.

2646
02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 2: You're just waking that person up.

2647
02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:42,680
Speaker 3: Now, My people are still talking about Bill Clinton, that blowjob.

2648
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:46,960
Speaker 13: Who huh?

2649
02:00:48,160 --> 02:00:49,080
Speaker 9: They were the trends how.

2650
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:53,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it'd be an eye opening thing to come

2651
02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:56,440
Speaker 2: out of thawing right now, right and the world has

2652
02:00:56,520 --> 02:01:00,080
Speaker 2: changed so much. It's just it's tremendous. That's all the

2653
02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:00,720
Speaker 2: shit I can hand.

2654
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 3: Bad, bad, not bad?

2655
02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:05,000
Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much. Hope you enjoyed that.

2656
02:01:05,120 --> 02:01:07,080
Speaker 2: Hope we're still employed along outd Looke. Do you want

2657
02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:09,200
Speaker 2: to say goodbye and all to these people? Where? Hey,

2658
02:01:09,320 --> 02:01:11,120
Speaker 2: where are we finally going to? Because I talked to

2659
02:01:11,800 --> 02:01:15,120
Speaker 2: I talked to Jose Young's this weekend shout out to him,

2660
02:01:15,160 --> 02:01:18,160
Speaker 2: Mike Boone, Oscar Wilde, I saw all the old friends,

2661
02:01:19,240 --> 02:01:21,840
Speaker 2: Aaron Bronstetter, by the way, was we're in a suit

2662
02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:25,720
Speaker 2: that had like sweatpant pants with a drawstring. The guy's brilliant.

2663
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:26,960
Speaker 3: I have to shit so bad.

2664
02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:29,840
Speaker 2: Okay. Can we check out the main card minutes prop

2665
02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:32,280
Speaker 2: Quiz Championship of Season two anytime soon?

2666
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:32,720
Speaker 3: Yes?

2667
02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:36,440
Speaker 5: So Jose versus Ben should be airing Friday. I'll reconfirm Friday.

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02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:38,360
Speaker 5: You know, schedules aligned, but we are planned to do

2669
02:01:38,440 --> 02:01:40,680
Speaker 5: that this week, so that'll go down winner that will

2670
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:43,760
Speaker 5: face UBC once again. Reminder two year anniversary of the

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Speaker 5: channel today, so big day.

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Speaker 2: You know, congratulations on that one. Right there. Reached the

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Speaker 2: you're definitely about to pinch a loaf as they used

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Speaker 2: to say.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I haven't heard that in so long.

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Speaker 2: It's so great. It's a nineties That is a nineties thing.

2686
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Speaker 3: Gotta get the old turn cutter going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all we can handle today for LT on

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Speaker 2: b C LT you have to sell anything to anyone.

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Speaker 3: I'll have a breakdown from some fights my personal channel

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Speaker 3: during the course of the week.

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Speaker 2: All right, like us, subscribe to us, follow us, be

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Speaker 2: This has been morning combat.

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Speaker 3: We're out of here.