WEBVTT - Creature Classic: Animal, Mineral, or Vegetable? 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:09.800 Welcome to Creature feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:14.520 of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology, 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:19.040 and today on the show, we are playing a little game. 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:23.520 This is a fun, fresh and funky new format for 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:27.040 the show. We're gonna play a game of whether it's 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:30.920 an animal, a mineral plant, or fun guy. I am 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:35.640 giving my guests a bunch of pictures and he will 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:40.720 describe them to you in detail, in disgusting, porous detail, 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:45.320 and you can play along too. I will have links 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.720 to all these images in the show notes, or you 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:51.760 can just form a mental picture from our words, from 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:55.520 our word paintings that we paint, and we will go 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.920 through this and my guest will have to try to 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.840 guess is it an animal, a mineral plant, a fungi 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:07.920 or something else. Entirely Joining me today is friend of 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:12.840 the show producer at iHeart Radio. He does so many things. 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:17.000 I don't really even know where to start, uh, DJ Danel. 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:20.840 Welcome, Katie, happy to be back. Thank you so much 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:21.360 for having me. 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.800 I'm just gonna have you plug everything at the end 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:28.560 because I can't. I don't even know how. There's so 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:32.320 many things. You you have your hands and so many pies. 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.800 There's lots of pies. My fingers are sticky and disgusting 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:37.319 at this point. 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:37.839 Very sticky. 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:42.520 Yeah, I've over the years touched many pies, and I am 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.800 therefore again very sticky. 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.680 If you've listened to a podcast or eaten a pie, 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:50.520 chances are there's germs from Danel on it. 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:53.520 I do love pie. 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:54.680 Yeah, pie is good. 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:59.480 I love pie. Pie is good, savory or something great both. 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:03.480 If I had to pick one, actually, damn, I was 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:05.120 about to just pop off an answer, but now that 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:07.880 I'm think about it, it's really hard to say. I 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.760 was very lucky enough to travel to Australia a couple 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.920 of times, and eating savory meat pies in Australia is 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.560 just on another level. They just hit so differently. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:21.640 There used to be an Australian pie savory pie shop 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:25.800 in Los Angeles. I think they may have moved, which 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:31.639 is really sad because it was incredible, absolutely incredible, just fantastically. 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:33.480 Are I love They're delicious. 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.839 I think I like a savory pie. I think I'm 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:41.400 sort of a you know, fifteenth century noble. I like 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:46.560 a savory pie. So today we are talking about some 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.040 things that may look like maybe they belong in a 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:54.280 savory pie. Hard to tell. These are images, and it 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.400 is up to you, Daniel, to try to guess what 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.000 it is. It could be an animal, a mineral, a plant, 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:01.280 fung guy, something else. 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:06.560 I'm already confused, or rather not confused, but like I'm 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.360 looking at these pictures and I'm just I know that 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.200 I'm going to be surprised. I know I'm going to 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.560 be enchanted, and i know I'm going to have a 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:14.880 new fear at some point. 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.120 I'd also like you to answer the question of whether 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.600 you would eat this thing gladly? 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:20.480 Oh man, glad. 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:24.280 So let's get right into it. Let's start with the 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:29.360 very first image the candidate number one. Great, First, I 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:33.040 want you to describe this image to the audience. 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:38.880 Sure, okay, audience. I want you to imagine, you know, 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:44.120 you've ever seen a huge strawberry that looks really amorphous. Now, 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:49.120 just like double the amount of amorphousness of that weird strawberry. 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:53.360 Make that strawberry white, and you've got kind of what 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.040 we're looking at here. You know, it's just like kind 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.480 of like a it looks like a globule but also 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.080 has a pretty defined shape. It looks like it has 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:04.560 tiny seeds on it and it's currently sitting or the 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.360 image has it sitting on a bit of wet sand. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:12.240 So a white, ghastly kind of looking giant globule strawberry 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:16.359 little dots of look like seeds and all sitting on 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:16.920 some sand. 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:22.080 Okay, that was beautiful. That was like you you're like 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:27.039 Monet with your words. You know, when strawberries like are 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:30.479 weird and they're like a double strawberry or even a 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:34.560 triple strawberry. That's actually something called fasciation. It happens in 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:40.640 plants when they have basically sort of a situation where 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:45.960 there is this like extra growth where like this basically 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.400 the plant like stem cells are telling it like grow 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:52.839 that thing. But again over here it's really interesting. Yeah, 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.480 so yeah, this does kind of look like a white 0:04:55.600 --> 0:05:04.280 mutant strawberry totally, but it is amorphous. It's blobule and 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:08.760 it has these sort of like light tan speckles on it. Yeah, 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:12.160 kind of like strawberry skin. It's it's interesting. Would you 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:13.080 eat this danile? 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.240 First of all, absolutely, Okay, I'm looking at this thing. 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.080 It looks like a laffy taffy that washed up on 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.640 the shore. I might look around, dunk it in the 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:24.960 water real quick and then chow down. Looks like it 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:31.480 would be delish. And if I had to guess, I 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:33.000 had to is it time to guess or is there more 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.280 time to do it? Okay? Cool? Cool, cool cool? If 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.200 I had to guess, And I'm trying to use some 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:42.080 context clues here. Looking at like that, it looks like 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.599 it's something that washed up on the shore. So I'm like, 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:47.679 it could be a plant, it could be an animal. 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:53.719 I think I'm gonna go I'm gonna go animal. 0:05:54.680 --> 0:06:00.839 You are absolutely correct, Congratulations, Yes, this is an animal. 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:05.039 It wow, certainly is a strange looking one. Yes, this 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:10.599 is something called a tunicate, also known as a sea squirt, 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.800 or when it's washed up on the beach like this, 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:20.360 it is called sea pork just because people. Yeah, they 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.719 like to have a name that I don't know. To me, 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.120 this doesn't look like pork. I guess it could kind 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:31.839 of look like pork fat. Ye, it's kind of a disgusting, sure, yeah, 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.520 very it makes it more gross. I think it's it's 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:36.679 a name that that makes it much more gross. 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:38.159 Yeah. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:42.279 So under the ocean there they look like these strange, 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:46.719 beautiful or sometimes kind of creepy like flowers or even 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.720 like coral, but they are not coral, and they are 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.320 not flowers. There's a few images that I've also shared 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.120 with you that are various examples of tunicate. Some of 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.560 them are solitary where they look sort of like this 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:03.280 weird almost like a like a flower or like a 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:08.880 bulbous thing with this kind of like purply coloration. But 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.520 sometimes they are in colonies, so like sometimes they form 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.040 like chains. So you'll see this thing that looks like 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.400 this giant chain, and it's all these tunicits that are 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:22.640 linked together. And sometimes they form like a blobby colony 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.960 like that initial image. Also like what that's when it's 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:30.680 kind of discolored. Sometimes when they're fresher, they're like pink 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:35.920 or red. And yeah, so they are. There's many different 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:40.000 species of tunicate, from those who live as individuals to 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:43.520 those who live as colonies. And they all start out 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.840 in this like free swimming stage. This larva that kind 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:52.880 of looks like a tadpole sperm, like a sperm that's 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:58.720 the size of a tadpole, and right they will latched. 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:03.480 For the ones that are sessile, they will latch onto sessile, 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:07.040 meaning that they stay fixed in one location. They no 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.520 longer move around. They will latch themselves onto a substrate 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:14.160 and go through a metamorphosis where they sort of lose 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:20.920 their ability to move and then form this like siphon system, 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.760 so they turn into kind of like just this almost 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.920 like bagpipe looking thing some of them. Others will form 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:31.280 colonies so they look like that weird like mutant strawberry 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:38.520 lumpy thing, and so they they will essentially act as 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:42.760 filter feeders. And unless they are part of this like 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.080 chain like organism, like some of them form this like 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.800 long chain where they're floating around as a chain. They 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:52.640 will mostly stay motionless or at least like stuck fixed 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.679 in one place for the rest of their lives while 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.920 filter feeding. They're called sea scores because a lot of 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.040 them will do this like siphoning of water, like sucking 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.079 it in one tube and pushing it out the other. Uh, 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.319 it's a it's beautiful. 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.320 Really quickly. I want to jump back just two seconds 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.560 to make sure I understood some terminology you said. They 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.920 attached to a substrate. 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:21.280 Is like that, Yes, that is like sand or rock 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.600 or any it's basically floor it's a science word. 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:31.400 For floor, A science word for floor. I like that cool. 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.040 But it's a floor that could be made out of 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:35.920 rocks or sand or gravel. 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:37.640 I had a feeling it was at a feeling it 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:38.640 was the hard surface. 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:43.120 But I just wanted to be sure are specialized surface 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:51.360 of some kind. Yeah. So, despite sometimes being called sea pork, 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:55.680 most species of tunicits aren't edible. But notice how I 0:09:55.679 --> 0:10:01.959 said most, there are some species that are edible, Okay, 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:05.640 and people actually have them in various cuisines. 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:10.240 And you really, yeah, is there a particular regional cuisine 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:11.200 that eats these the most? 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:15.360 I mean, I have, I think, because there are so many. 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.800 There are various countries where they are featured in cuisine 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:26.959 from anywhere from Korea to Chile. So yes, So let's 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:33.480 go on to the next image here, great, Yes it is. 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:39.520 This is gray looking thing with sort of red splotches 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.040 on it, Danield. 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.600 Do you think it's a it's a looking thing? All right? 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.920 Yeah? I mean, first of all, describe it to the audience. 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:51.520 Use use the art of poetry to paint a picture. 0:10:52.800 --> 0:11:00.280 How to describe a summer's day? Well, this thing we're 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:04.200 looking at here, I would say it's dominating colors are 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:07.040 I would say, imagine something that is an eighty percent 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:11.040 kind of muddy gray with twenty percent of a very 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:16.200 vibrant orangey red and these little tiny splotches all over 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.800 it. It would appear that there are these very small dots 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.240 of red around this object. Now, this object is kind 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.800 of like this thing creature. I don't even know. This 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:27.800 thing is almost like the shape of an avocado maybe, 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.120 but it almost looks like it has a protrusion, like 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.720 a protrusion that has lesions on it. So imagine like 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:40.560 a avocado shaped thing that almost looks like it's covered 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.920 in little like calcified ringworms or something like. It looks 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:45.880 like these like tiny little wormes on it that are 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:50.280 hard like petrified worms, tiny little and then specks of 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:55.280 red and then these open lesions that look like small 0:11:55.360 --> 0:12:01.280 pools of lava on this weird avocado shaped rock looking thing. 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:07.480 It looks both hard and rough and also sticky and 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.040 gross at the same time, Like parts of it look 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.240 like you could sharpen a knife on it, and then 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:15.600 other parts of it looked like they could give you 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:20.440 a disease if you touched it. So yeah, it's very strange. 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.719 It also looks like it's looking at me, like a 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:24.760 hundred times, like it looks like several parts of it 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:28.440 are looking at me because the red dots are placed 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.439 in such a way or are in such a place 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.600 that they look like little eyes. It's like a pair 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:38.000 of red dots in several places around this thing. No idea, 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:41.440 but it is definitely again we're seeing it on top 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.280 of what looks like very wet sand, maybe wet mud, 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.920 but it is out in nature. It looks wet and 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.200 it looks gross. But also I don't want to, you know, 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:59.040 shame the thing. Yeah, body show no share, certainly not 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.720 certainly not. But it is something I don't know if 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:02.880 I would want to touch. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.120 Right so that I would assume you wouldn't eat it. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:07.559 Then if you don't want to touch. 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:13.080 It, well, okay, hold on. You know there's there's there's 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.120 some things I don't want to touch. Then necessarily I 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.040 throw on the grill and then you know I'm touching 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:20.760 them with my mouth. You know, I will say off, rip, no, 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.720 I don't want to eat this, but I am curious. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.520 I don't know. It feels so violent to say I 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.199 want to see what's on the inside. But at the 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:32.480 same time, these these lesions of of you know, bright 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.760 red and orange color, are like, what's going on in there? 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.400 Yeah? Is that violence or just curiosity? 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:43.360 There we go. I appreciate that there's some aliens that 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.840 are going to probust and say it's not violence, it's curiosity. 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:47.640 I'm gonna be like, well, my arm's off now, so 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:48.280 I don't. 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.040 Know scientific amen to that. 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.160 All right, I'm going to I'm going to take a guess, yes, 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:59.079 go for it. I'm going to go with my gut 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.360 and say that this is a mineral. 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:08.360 Interesting, Well, no, it is in fact an animal. And 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.959 I'm seeing kind of a jerk here because this is 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:16.719 yet another tunicit What you I got youa? Yeah, So 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:21.160 this like leprous looking gray avocado, is a tunic kit 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:27.200 called pyra chilinasis uh what wait wait sorry I pronounced 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:31.240 that totally wrong. Pya chill and sis uh. And it 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:36.120 looks like a gray rock with weird tubules that has 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.360 flesh inside. And that's essentially what it is. It's a 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:40.120 flesh rock. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.360 Yeah, Okay, I just need to be very clear with 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.200 the audience. So Katie has provided you know, like we 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.360 were talking about with the first tunicit is the name 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:52.080 of the creature, right, yes, tunicit. So so so Katie 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.960 provided four different images of the first tunicit and they 0:14:56.120 --> 0:15:00.480 all look pretty different then, but but there are some 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:05.320 similar qualities. This picture, this second picture, or rather fifth 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:09.320 picture at this point, could not look more different than 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:13.800 the prior four pictures. There's nothing about this picture that says, well, 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.000 that's the same creature. Yeah at all. 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.440 Well, to be fair, it's a different species for sure. 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.760 But being like, you know, look, you show me two birds. 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:24.640 One could be big, one could be small. They both 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.120 look like birds, right, this does not even this is 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:30.520 this doesn't even look like a globule of strawberry. 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.680 Yeah, no, it kind of looks moldy. But yeah, it's 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:40.640 so that gray rock like exterior is the exoskeletal structure 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.560 of a colony of tunicates. Inside that red flesh is 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.480 you know, they're flesh, the flesh of these kits. So 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:51.960 this is a colony of tunicits. And yeah, just like 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.680 other tunicates, they siphon in water and filter feed and 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.760 essentially just hang out and seem like a rock until 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:03.360 they are dragged out by fishermen. And I know you 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.680 said you were on the fence about eating this. But 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:10.120 these are an example of an edible tunicate, and indeed 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:14.600 they are featured in Chilean cuisine. Yes what. 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:16.520 Wow. 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:22.440 So because it does look like a flesh rock from hell, 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.560 it's not a particularly popular food in Chile. And this 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:30.280 is not like some kind of like common cuisine, but 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:35.000 in areas where like there's a lot of fishing, it 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.840 can be eaten in fishermen. Well, what they do essentially 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.000 is they take out the inside. You don't eat out 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.800 the exoskeleton, just like you wouldn't eat like the exoskeleton 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:47.320 of a clam. And then they take these like basically 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:52.560 like globules of meat from inside, dry them out, and 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:56.720 it's used in soups. So you know, I would, I 0:16:58.320 --> 0:16:59.000 I would try it. 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.960 I would. I mean now that I mean, now that 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.240 we're having this conversation, I'm like, yeah, I mean, throwing 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:06.760 on a plate, let me see what, let me see 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:11.040 what we're rocking with. But like, wow, I'm shook. I'm shook. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.160 I mean, you know, that's when it's like, when you're 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:20.680 essentially giving me the option of eating a living rock 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:25.880 made out of flesh, it does sound a little appealing. 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.440 Actually that sounds like some Pokemon stuff. It's like, do 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:34.200 I want to eat a geo dude? Hell yeah, Katie. 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:38.480 Those traps they've got delts that look you know, delectible, 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:47.399 delectable though there's meat there. All right, So do you 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.840 want to move on to the next image. 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:51.280 Let's do it. 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:55.320 All right, this is candidate number three. I want you 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.200 to describe this image. 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:03.560 For the audience. Okay, gladly, Well, I'm going to avoid 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:08.920 the rather explicit connotation that these things have and say 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:12.399 that they are They do look like blue wieners. They 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:16.320 look like they look like uh, doctor Manhattan wieners sticking 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:18.960 out of the ground. They look like the thing is 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:20.920 so again, this is a scale thing where I'm like, 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:22.960 I don't know how big these are, but they I'm 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:29.280 going to guess small. They look like small stalagmites, translucent 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.400 bluish stalagmites. They look like, you know, you can see 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:38.240 there there may be gooey blue center. It's almost it's 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.040 almost like a It looks like one single piece that 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.440 is like attached to a rock with a lot with 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.399 a lot of little like you know, blue wieners sticking 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:48.800 out of it. But it is. 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.480 A meadow of blueis. 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.000 A meadow of blue wieners is a great way to 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:00.400 say it. There is also as part of the Yeah, 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:04.119 it almost looks like you're looking into like a cave, 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:08.240 a cave of blue wieners that are being exposed to 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:11.200 light for the first time. I'm also going to guess 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:17.600 this is guessing this is also I'm guessing this is underwater, 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.040 but there's no evidence of that. You know what, Actually, 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.520 I take that back. There's no water evidence in this picture. 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:27.200 So I'm gonna say it's not water. I'm going to 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:29.919 go and I'm trying to think there's any other physical 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:32.320 descriptors that are worth mentioning here. I mean, like, you know, 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.920 uh no, I think I think we I think we 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:36.800 kind of nailed it all. 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:38.240 Yeah, that was good. 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:41.000 I'm going to thank you. I'm going to go I'm 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.640 gonna go with a fungus hm. 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:47.120 But also, would you eat it? You gotta answer that one. 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:50.119 Too, Oh right, of course, Yes, they look like they 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:52.360 they look like they explode in your mouth like gushers. 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:53.960 So yes, absolutely, due. 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:57.159 They look gummy. They look like delicious gummies. They do 0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:59.760 look gummy, you know, like how you're at a bachelor 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:03.399 party and you get some weiener gummies. They look like that. 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:06.560 Well, I wouldn't know personally, have been very familiar with those. Yes, 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:08.240 I've seen those images and whatnot. 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:12.399 I've been to a lot of bachelorette parties. There's always 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.600 some kind of weier thing, and it's just like, come on, 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:19.119 aren't we adults here, Let's grow up. Let's just grow up. 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:20.760 Let's grow up. 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:25.119 Anyways, So that is a fantastic guess that this is 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:30.600 a fun guy. Sadly it is incorrect. This is actually 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:35.320 a mineral. So yeah, I gotta I gotta throw in 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.760 a mineral there. I gotta switch up a curveball a 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:39.440 little bit of curve. 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.680 These are things, definitely aren't These things definitely aren't squishy that. 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:46.800 No, no, it looks There are so many minerals that 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:48.960 I would put in my mouth and chomp down and 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:53.800 break every tooth because they like candy and I want 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:54.640 to eat them. 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:57.480 Yes, these absolutely look like candy. One. 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:06.080 These are chrysocola. They are this blue color. They're actually 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:09.919 quite beautiful. I think it's actually due to the copper 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:16.359 hydroxide content of the mineral. Obviously, copper is typically copper colored, 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:19.680 but when it is oxidized it's blue. Like have you 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.720 ever seen a gross old penny that's like kind of 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:29.080 wet I have, Yeah, turns blue and sometimes it turns 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:33.440 your pocket blue too, and so yeah it will. That 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:35.000 is where this blue color comes. 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.040 From, and that where blue jeans come from. 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:41.440 People just have penny penny washed jeans. 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:42.320 Penny washed. 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.520 So I think, I mean it's possible though, that oxidized 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:52.760 copper was used in paints. I'm not I'm not a 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:58.320 paint expert or mineral mineralist, but yeah, I mean that's 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:01.800 that's very possible. It's used as like coloration in things. 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.760 But that bulb that sort of bulbous valley of penises 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:10.560 type thing that's going on that they can look like 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:13.800 little tentacles. Sometimes it looks like little bubbles like it's 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:19.359 it's literally sort of bubbling up. It's called a boeroidal formation. 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:22.200 It is when there are many seeds from which the 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:26.000 crystal forms. So when I talk about seed, it's essentially 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:28.720 like maybe it's a piece of sand or a small 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:34.439 particle of mineral from which a crystal sort of starts growing. 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.280 So again, I'm not a mineral oid. I'm not a 0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:40.720 professor of mineralogy. 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:43.280 But what was my favorite aliens from Star Trek. 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:46.840 Mineral Oid just a bunch of rocks. It's just a 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:53.800 geodude rebranded. So it's essentially like the way I learned 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:57.399 it eons ago is that you'll have sort of a 0:22:57.520 --> 0:22:59.800 structure of a crystal, and then once you have like 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:03.959 if you have like things that it's stuff that kind 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:07.400 of knocks things into place or like it forms this thing, 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.200 and then you start to get this formation and everything 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:14.920 sort of settles in this this structure form because you 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:18.320 have a seed structure that enables this type of formation, 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:21.760 and so the crystal continues to form sort of like 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:25.560 a domino effect. And so if you have a multiple 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:28.399 number of these like seeds that will grow these crystals, 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:33.560 then you have this like bubbling form or forest of weenas. 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:38.440 Most certainly it's beautiful. I have a question go for 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:40.000 it now now that we now that we know that 0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:41.680 it is a mineral, can we get what is the 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:44.159 scale of the image that we're looking at? Here? Are 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:46.480 these tiny? Are they large? Are they kind of like 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.080 in between? Like what size are we looking at? 0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:52.080 Sometimes they can and it depends. Some of them are 0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:55.200 like bigger, some of them are like small, like sort 0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:58.359 of like smaller than a pencil. These I think are 0:23:58.400 --> 0:23:59.480 about pencil size. 0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:02.680 Pencil said, that's still pretty I mean, gang, if you 0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:04.600 were to look at these like saying that their pencil 0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:06.520 size means they're probably like the thickness of like a 0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:09.520 water bottle. So these are pretty substantial minerals right here. 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.080 Yeah, Okay, maybe pencil is a little big, but they're 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:17.920 certainly like like uh yeah, like a thin sort of 0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:22.040