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Speaker 1: And you know this is kind of a two parter.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday we did a story that was run in the

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Speaker 3: San Francisco Chronicle entitled how ghost students are applying to

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Speaker 3: colleges to steal financial aid. We talked a lot that

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Speaker 3: during the pandemic, people were stealing unemployment money, but what

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Speaker 3: also started and got bigger during the pandemic was stealing

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Speaker 3: community college aid money by what they call using ghost students.

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Speaker 3: That is, they would probably collect the name and some

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Speaker 3: identifying information of real people, but stick them in there

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Speaker 3: as perspective community college students, and then apply for financial aid,

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Speaker 3: which would get to to the fraudster. It says here,

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Speaker 3: although the state software has caught more than half of

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Speaker 3: fraudulent mission applications in July, it's still left about two

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Speaker 3: hundred thousand sham applications. The pelgrant is the most common.

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Speaker 3: It's a federal college subsidy for needy students, and the

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Speaker 3: fraudsters love to try to steal that money.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk to someoney reached out to us

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Speaker 1: because she's.

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Speaker 3: Mentioned in the article. Kim Rich is a criminal justice

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Speaker 3: instructor at Pierce College to Community College in Woodland Hills,

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Speaker 3: and she apparently is an expert at identifying these fake

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Speaker 3: students in her online classes. And of course that's the

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Speaker 3: other part of this. If the student is online, they

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Speaker 3: It would be easier for them to be a ghost.

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Speaker 3: Let's get Kim on the show and talk more about this.

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Speaker 4: Kim, how are you great? How are you good?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 2: All right, explain what you've seen from your post at

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Speaker 2: Pierce College.

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Speaker 4: Well, this really started basically a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 4: and the pandemic was really the catalyst for allowing this

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Speaker 4: but you know, being online really enabled them to take

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Speaker 4: that our government's been handing out also, didn't you know,

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Speaker 4: really help this cause. And in California you can apply

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Speaker 4: to one or one hundred and sixteen of our California

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Speaker 4: community colleges all through one portal, and so this made

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Speaker 4: it even easier for these criminals to access all of

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Speaker 4: to them and roll in them and then be able

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Speaker 4: to apply for and obtain financial aids.

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Speaker 2: So you could use dozens of names and apply to

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Speaker 4: Yes you can.

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Speaker 3: What does it mean in terms of paying tuition or

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Speaker 3: anything else that they have to do?

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Speaker 1: I mean, does the money come that quickly to them?

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Speaker 4: It says. And basically they've been able to use some

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Speaker 4: but they've been able to basically have these spots, you know,

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Speaker 4: just constantly applying and are enrolling in these courses. And

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Speaker 4: for instance, in my one class that you know has

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Speaker 4: And so they were able to if they who knows

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Speaker 4: I don't have access to that data, but they could

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Speaker 1: What are they using.

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Speaker 3: They're using real people's names and some sort of identifying data.

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Speaker 1: Is that what they use?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're obviously using real people's information. Back when I

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Speaker 4: They were using their images and all of their data

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Speaker 3: Is this because you're a criminal justice instructor? You really

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Speaker 4: No, I just wanted to basically see how they were

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Speaker 3: I was going to ask for your techniques and trying

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Speaker 1: Is that what do you usually do? What are you

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Speaker 4: It's not really necessarily a technique, not something I would say, hey,

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Speaker 4: It's just a lot of times something that jumps out

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Speaker 4: Oftentimes you'll see them using characters or even numbers in

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Speaker 2: Going back to that class where you had forty people enrolled,

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Speaker 2: thirty eight of them were fake. How did you figure

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Speaker 4: My class is not a live class, so they have

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Speaker 4: basically a week to complete the work that I assigned

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Speaker 4: basically read out if a person is real or not. However,

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Speaker 4: there are some tail till signs where I basically determined

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of there's a tip uff right there. Well,

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Speaker 1: they don't exist, so they're not going to lie in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I was not the only professor at

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Speaker 4: the lowest enrollment, but there were other faculty who had

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Speaker 4: And the enrollment at the college for specifically these late

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Speaker 3: Where do they is the money paid if you know

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Speaker 3: the grant mindes it paid by check or direct deposit

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Speaker 3: or how did these cameras getting sent to them? They

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Speaker 3: figure out some sort of scheme there.

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Speaker 4: So in the I guess you would call it the

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Speaker 4: old days actually really just only pre pandemic. Most of

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Speaker 4: your ID, you would get a check, pay for you know,

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Speaker 4: obviously your tuition books, and then obviously some of the

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Speaker 4: there is I guess you could call it maybe a

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Speaker 4: intermediate program platform. It's called bank Mobile and the contract

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Speaker 4: where I believe approximately one third of the colleges throughout

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Speaker 4: and read it goes into this bank mobile account than

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Speaker 3: Well, Kim, thank you so much for coming on. We're

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Speaker 3: glad you heard we were talking about this story and

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Speaker 3: we enjoyed talking to you.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's Kim Rich, a criminal justice instructor at Los

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Speaker 3: Angeles is Pierce College. It's in Woodland Hills, and she,

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Speaker 3: among many other community college instructors, they have to spend

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Speaker 3: some of their time looking for ghost students, fake students

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Speaker 3: bots who will apply for financial aid.

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Speaker 1: Didn't want to rip off the system.

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Speaker 3: Well, they call it the doom loop. This is what's

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Speaker 3: happening to some of America's cities. The tax base is

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Speaker 3: doom Loop San Francisco. Now, these two stories together are unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: Up there, they are believable.

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Speaker 3: San Francisco is now going to pay almost twenty million

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Speaker 2: It's in their own rooms. This was a newsome idea

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Speaker 2: Project room Key. It was but putting insane, drug addicted,

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Speaker 2: is causing less travels, so therefore these hotels have room.

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Speaker 1: This is a perfect match.

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Speaker 3: Let's put the homeless right in these hotels and you

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Speaker 1: They got destroyed.

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Speaker 3: Do you Property damage was extensive at this hotel in

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Speaker 1: These street people are are uncivilized.

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Speaker 3: I remember in San Francisco there were no rules even bought.

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Speaker 3: There were stories they were bringing them booze and.

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Speaker 1: That is cigarettes and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they had concess they wanted to stay in the room.

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Speaker 2: Yes they had room service, and they were trying to

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Speaker 2: keep these these basically, you know, they were like wild

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Speaker 2: to keep the animals happy, they threw in all the

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Speaker 2: drugs and booze that the animals needed these. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't understand why the cities and the state.

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Speaker 2: This is all Gavin Newsom this room case. He was

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Speaker 2: bragging about the stupid ass idea that this is destruction,

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Speaker 2: this is complete destruction of hotels.

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Speaker 3: But we said that at the time, if you're going

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Speaker 1: And this is what happened.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, San Francisco's bill is now over twenty seven

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Speaker 2: You let thousands die every year in the street. Why

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Speaker 2: So much money pouring in and they won't even get

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Speaker 1: They would get destroyed.

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Speaker 2: Right, Why doesn't the average person take a vagrant in,

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Speaker 2: because you assume the vagrant's going to destroy the house

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Speaker 2: That's the number one reason that Eric Adams program's not

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Speaker 1: That's what they do now.

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Speaker 3: The other story that puts San Francisco in the doom

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Speaker 3: And of course the list of reasons is remote work, layoffs,

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Speaker 2: It starts with crime and homeless problem. That's why people.

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Speaker 2: One of the reasons people found remote works so satisfying

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Speaker 1: So here's the deal they ended up making.

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Speaker 2: These idiot politicians figured they could suck out millions of

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Speaker 2: the fake nonprofits. Nobody, very few got lifted out of homelessness.

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Speaker 2: Very few got off the drugs and the alcohol. None

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Speaker 2: And now on the back end, the tax base has

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Speaker 2: all failures. So why keep doing it? Now you've destroyed

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Speaker 2: now your tax pace is down. What two hundred million?

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Speaker 3: He said, Yes, two hundred million is the hit. Possibly,

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Speaker 3: So what was the upside of this experiment? There wasn't, no, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, something. If you had reincarnated Hitler and he

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Speaker 3: John on the migrant flight story. The Florida Division of

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Speaker 3: Emergency Management has confirmed they're the ones that arranged for

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Speaker 3: the two flights that flew a total of thirty six

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Speaker 1: They shared a video.

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Speaker 3: They claim show some of the migrants that were flown

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Speaker 1: And volunteering to go on the flight.

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Speaker 3: One part of the video, man is seen saying in Spanish,

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Speaker 3: we met it to California.

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Speaker 1: Thank God, very thankful to God. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So so Newsom and Rob Bonta were lying the same

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Speaker 2: nobody deceived. They said to the migrants, Hey, you want

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Speaker 2: Newsom says that's the best place in the world.

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Speaker 1: Right, He's the.

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Speaker 2: One, this is what's so funny. He's the one who's

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Speaker 2: been saying that Florida is terrible, right, that that California

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Speaker 2: California's better than Texas, better than Forda. Okay, you're right,

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Speaker 2: you're absolutely right. And then you start flying people to California.

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Speaker 2: These people, you think Desantas inhabit are idiots. They know

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Speaker 2: you have to tell the people where they're going. They

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Speaker 2: know you have to get them to sign a release.

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Speaker 2: What do you think see? And Newsom knows this too,

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Speaker 2: and so does Bonta. They were lying they're just trying

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Speaker 3: The rest of the statement from the Florida Department of

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Speaker 3: Emergency Management, This sentence is a hoot from left leaning

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Speaker 3: mayors in El Paso, Texas and Denver, Colorado. The relocation

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Speaker 3: of those illegally crossing the United States border is not new,

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Speaker 3: but suddenly when Florida sends illegal aliens to a sanctuary city,

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Speaker 3: it's false imprisonment and kidnapping.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, response to you know what, Obama flew people around.

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Speaker 2: Biden has flown people around. There is nothing illegal about

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Speaker 2: mouth about kidnapping chargers. He's completely full of horsemen or

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Speaker 2: right to his eyeballs, and he knows it too.

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Speaker 1: But everybody in the meeting goes, oh, look at that.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be kidnapping chargeable look at that. Well,

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Speaker 1: this really is a.

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Speaker 2: Disgrace, Like, no, it's not. Florida has the right to say, no,

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Speaker 2: you're not coming here. We don't have to be part

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Speaker 2: to accept it, and so we'll pay to move them elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, police in La are investigating. And this is a

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Speaker 3: new twist on the shoplifting robbery front. A string of

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Speaker 3: five armed robberies at taco trucks.

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Speaker 1: Within one week.

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Speaker 3: And when you think about it, I wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 3: be a pretty easy steal just to drive up quickly

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Speaker 1: As they're driving by, they see that no arrests have

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Speaker 3: There was a shooting at a taco truck that didn't

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Speaker 1: Why not, Why shouldn't Why shouldn't all these.

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Speaker 2: All these criminals do all the stealing they want, all

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Speaker 1: There's no downside here now.

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Speaker 2: And basically, you know, Karen Bass and the city council

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Speaker 1: There's no prosecution.

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Speaker 2: Gascon's not prosecuting lapds, barely even investigating this stuff.

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Speaker 1: So go ahead, go take it. It's yours.

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Speaker 3: And in a story where well, this is a break

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Speaker 3: from the show, I feel sorry for the migrants. This

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Speaker 3: occurred outside of Sofi Stadium. I of course go to

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Speaker 3: RAM games, and when you come out of a RAM game,

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles concert, there is a some times it seems

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Speaker 3: like a thousand people selling hot dogs. It's the little

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Speaker 3: I don't buy any.

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Speaker 1: You don't get the runs afterwards.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a bacon wrap hot dog, some grilled like

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Speaker 1: I just figure you're gonna get the runs. Sometimes you

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Speaker 3: You have to, really because if there's already the mob

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Speaker 3: of people coming out but sometimes there's so many carts

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Speaker 1: You can get.

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Speaker 3: The reason I felt bad is because some worker wearing

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Speaker 1: Some of the vendors and he flipped over two of

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Speaker 1: the carts. The hot dogs went flying. That's just me and.

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Speaker 3: A twelve year old girl was supposedly might suffered miner injuries.

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Speaker 3: She was watching the cart for her parents. He got fired, So.

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Speaker 1: That's the update on the story.

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Speaker 3: That he doesn't work for so far, but for a

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Speaker 3: you can be upset with this if you want, but

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Speaker 3: don't don't.

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Speaker 1: Throw their hot dogs over. That's really that's dirty. That's

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Speaker 1: what we call the a hole rule. You don't do that.

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Speaker 3: I guess he was mad because some would complain that

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Speaker 1: Yeah maybe, yeah, that was his problem.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what his problem was. But what's the

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Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium hot dog?

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Speaker 1: Now? Like, I don't know, I think, yeah, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: say nine dollars. Yeah? Is that a foot long? Yes? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I know I paid. I know, I paid thirty six

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Speaker 1: dollars for two beers on Sunday. Yeah, the beers are.

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Speaker 1: They're big though, right big? How many ounces? Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: they're eighteen dollars each. They are I couldn't like.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's just to pay for the convenience to have

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Speaker 3: them right there, you know, because you can't bring that

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Speaker 3: stuff in.

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Speaker 2: I got a new Dodger stadium strategy. I eat a

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Speaker 2: lot right before we leave the house, and then that's it.

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Speaker 3: I know, but remember that used to be part of

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Speaker 3: the thrill of going to a game, picking out the.

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Speaker 1: Hot dog while you sit there.

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Speaker 3: As I say to people, food at the beach always

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Speaker 3: tastes better, and it seems like food at a ballgame, well,

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Speaker 3: it usually just tastes better.

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Speaker 1: Not at they're charging eighteen dollars for a beer.

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Speaker 2: No, I think above and beyond the food inflation we've seen.

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Speaker 1: That is abusive. That is thievery.

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Speaker 3: All right, we got more coming up. Johnny Ken KFI

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Speaker 3: AM six forty. We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 5: AM six forty.

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Speaker 3: All right, from the world of stupid people, Remember a

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Speaker 3: few weeks ago, we did the story of the man

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Speaker 3: at Yellowstone who tried to help the baby bison reunited

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Speaker 3: with its pack of bisons, and well, they euthanized the

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Speaker 3: poor baby bison.

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Speaker 1: It happened again.

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Speaker 3: Over the Memorial Day weekend at Yellowstone, but it wasn't

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Speaker 3: a bison this time. Apparently a couple of visitors decided

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Speaker 3: to play uber with a baby elk.

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Speaker 1: They put the baby elk in their car, gave it

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Speaker 1: a ride.

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Speaker 3: To give it a ride, they were driving in the park,

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Speaker 3: they saw the animal, and they brought it to the

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Speaker 3: West Yellowstone, Montana Police Department.

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Speaker 1: The calf then ran into the forest. They don't know

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Speaker 1: what happened to me. I drunk with these people. Why

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Speaker 1: would you possibly pick up a baby elk? Was it hitchhiking?

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Speaker 1: What is it? Two college guys?

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Speaker 3: It doesn't say. It's just a couple of tourists. It

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Speaker 3: doesn't say man, woman doesn't some kind of stimulant. When

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Speaker 3: an animal is near a camp'side, a trail, a boardwalk,

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Speaker 3: a parking lot of road, they're in the developed area.

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Speaker 1: Leave it alone, give it space.

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Speaker 3: An elk, a baby elk, doesn't it el caf horns

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Speaker 3: baby elk might not antlers something. Yes, I'm looking at

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Speaker 3: two bull elk and they have big antlers. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: a baby elk might not have much growing there yet.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So I would imagine they're going to find

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Speaker 3: these people too, just like they went after the guy

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Speaker 3: who picked up the baby bison.

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Speaker 2: Well, did these guys hear about the baby bison story

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Speaker 2: and that inspired.

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Speaker 3: Them instead of inspired them in an opposite way to

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Speaker 3: leave the animal alone the planet?

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Speaker 1: They thought the elk was lost, so they drove it to.

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Speaker 3: The police department. The planet is filled with morons. The

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Speaker 3: species is largely not rational.

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Speaker 2: It's more likely that people are going to do copycat

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Speaker 2: stuff all summer now.

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Speaker 3: And the other idiot in the news was a, well,

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Speaker 3: everybody knows that sometimes you lose your mind.

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Speaker 1: John chasing a foul ball in the stands.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that happens, right. Well, this apparently wasn't a major

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Speaker 2: league game. It was the it looks like college the.

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Speaker 3: Campbell Fighting Campbell's taking on the North Carolina State Wolfpack.

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Speaker 3: A player hit a ball into the right field pavilion.

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Speaker 3: A dad was holding his young child chased after the

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Speaker 3: foul ball, and then he tripped and fell and he

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Speaker 3: squashed the baby's head.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, yeah, that's what happened. What happened?

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Speaker 3: A young boy in his arms. He attempted to field

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Speaker 3: the ball on one bounce, but missed the catch. During

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Speaker 3: the second attempt, he attempted to grab the moving ball

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Speaker 3: but lost his footing and the child smacked his head

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Speaker 3: on the pavement.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, that's what happened.

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Speaker 3: So he really wanted that ball so much he forgot

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Speaker 3: that he's carrying a child.

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Speaker 1: It looks like a toddler.

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Speaker 2: He shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. Really, we got it.

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Speaker 2: It should be the end of the line for that genetic.

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Speaker 2: That genetic code was the.

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Speaker 3: College game foul ball. I don't see. It's not like,

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Speaker 3: you know, you're in al and you want to show

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Speaker 3: people this ball was hit by a star.

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Speaker 2: This is not poolholes a seven hundred home right here,

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Speaker 2: exactly right. It's just a foul ball a college player.

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Speaker 2: I've seen guys at major league games on television. I've

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Speaker 2: seen these scenes where guys are are trying to catch

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Speaker 2: a ball while holding their toddler or their baby at

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Speaker 2: the same time, and they're leaning over a railing right

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Speaker 2: or you know, they've got the baby and a beer

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Speaker 2: and they're trying to catch the ball.

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Speaker 3: We don't know the condition of the boy. People were

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Speaker 3: looking at this is one of these viral videos and

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Speaker 3: all sorts of comments that the child needs to be

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Speaker 3: taken to a hospital. But it looks pretty clear from

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Speaker 3: the video that the child's head does hit the pavement

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Speaker 3: pretty solidly.

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Speaker 1: Conways here, that kid will be fine.

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Speaker 6: You know, we all did stupid things with our kids,

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Speaker 6: you know, throwing them up in the r way, catching them.

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Speaker 1: What did what did? What did you do to your job?

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Speaker 6: She was in a stroller and I pushed her down

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Speaker 6: a skateboard ramp, you know, it was like a two

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Speaker 6: foot ramp and it went up the other ramp and

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Speaker 6: it flipped over under her head. But she was like

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Speaker 6: two at the time, so she was fine.

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Speaker 1: Are there any stories you tell while you're still on

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Speaker 1: our show? Are they really true?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: No, No, that's that's a true story.

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Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, every time I passed that

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Speaker 6: skate park, I'm minded.

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Speaker 1: Well, I had a moment similar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had my four year old and two year

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Speaker 2: old at somebody's house top of a steep driveway, right,

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Speaker 2: and my four year old wanted his peanut butter sandwich.

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Speaker 2: They got left behind, so I left them alone at

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Speaker 2: the top of the driveway. Actually, I parked the four

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Speaker 2: year old behind the car.

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Speaker 1: Good for you.

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Speaker 2: He found his way out while I'm getting the sandwich.

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Speaker 2: He went up to the two year old and pushed

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Speaker 2: the two year old down. The rumbled into the street

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Speaker 2: the opposing curve and tipped over on its side. If

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Speaker 2: a car came by, you would have a different life. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right. My kid in the street was laughing. That's

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Speaker 2: the most fun riding had. A lot of things happened,

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 6: Speaking of guys that have fallen on their head before

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Speaker 6: when there were kids, Mark Thompson.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I did have a similar enginent with my brother

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Speaker 7: in the car, believe it or not, Honest to God,

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Speaker 7: my mom turned I'll never forget, I know, remember the

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Speaker 7: exact intersection in Washington, d C. My mom she turns right,

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Speaker 7: and I look out in the rear because I see

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Speaker 7: that the door is swung open. My little brother is

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Speaker 7: rolling around in the streets a major intersection, major intersection,

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Speaker 7: crazy and he's so cute, just sitting there with his

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Speaker 7: little glasses. He had two years old, but he wore glasses,

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Speaker 7: and I remember they were all askew. Yeah, mad I

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Speaker 7: was blaming. I was blamed, of course I was on that.

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Speaker 6: Remember where this was there was a barbecue store off

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Speaker 6: Kester and Ventura. Yeah, with six kids in the in

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Speaker 6: the Mercury station wag my mom pulls up to get

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Speaker 6: something at the barbecue store.

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Speaker 1: She forgots to put put it in park.

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Speaker 6: So that station wagon with six kids in it backed

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Speaker 6: out across Ventura Boulevard and into a nursery across Ventura Boulevard.

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Speaker 1: Wow. She really cheated a lot of fate.

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Speaker 6: And for the first time, six kids were really quiet.

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Speaker 1: When that was on the move. We're like, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if we're gonna make it. Six kids.

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Speaker 6: Wow, boom across the street, boom right into a nursery.

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Speaker 1: Man, right into a fire station. That's wild. Those are

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Speaker 1: the good old day when you could do that. Now

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Speaker 1: they take those kids away from here. That's right, that's right,

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Speaker 1: we all made it. I say that to that story

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Speaker 1: to my wife.

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Speaker 6: She goes, not everybody, and she has a horrible story

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Speaker 6: about across the boulevard that didn't make it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they always have the story. Well, yeah, I like

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Speaker 2: the guy get down fast with those.

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Speaker 6: I like the guy who's throwing his kid up and

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Speaker 6: catching him, and then he forgets if he got forgot

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Speaker 6: that he had a ceiling fan.

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Speaker 1: God, oh God, that's gonna that's an emergency room visit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you got explaining the emergency room that

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Speaker 2: it was an accident.

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Speaker 1: You didn't beat the kid up. I just threw into fan.

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Speaker 1: Got shutting bad. Wait a minute, I shay threw him

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Speaker 1: into a fan.

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Speaker 2: I mean, all right, com Way, he dogg.

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Speaker 1: I just picture, you know, Ken putting his head down.

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Speaker 7: Can you see Conway going in the emergency room. First,

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Speaker 7: he'd lead with ding dong.

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Speaker 1: That's what tom Way Thompson, Let's go, let's do.

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