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Speaker 1: of the past, but twelve fourteen, yeah, four years out

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Speaker 1: in order to keep calling Republicans mean spirited and racist

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Speaker 1: and xenophobic. Otherwise, amazing how slow these things move. Trump

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Speaker 1: tried to end the program in twenty twenty, but remember

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court that he didn't follow their correct procedures.

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Speaker 1: Now it's going through the courts again, and a judge

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Speaker 1: and an appeals court have rolled the program is illegal.

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Speaker 1: And they think though it's going to eventually still end

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Speaker 1: up in the US Supreme Court. And that's what governors

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Speaker 1: and presidents count on when they do something illegal. You're

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Speaker 1: right just to make it. It It will take forever to

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Speaker 1: get to the courts. I mean, they had up to

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Speaker 1: six thousand rolls. Obama was running for reelection against Romney,

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Speaker 1: and he wanted a bump from Hispanic voters, and he

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Speaker 1: turning on him. They were criticizing him and causing a ruckus.

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Speaker 1: So the way to flip it is, Okay, we'll give

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Speaker 1: you DACA. I know it's illegal, but we'll do it anyway.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, ten years before it got blocked, And what

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Speaker 1: is it You and I said even ten years ago

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Speaker 1: that if they could literally finally secure the borders, most

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Speaker 1: Americans would probably be willing to give an amnesty to

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Speaker 1: those already in the country. But you look at what

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Speaker 1: we got going on right now. There's just no way because, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because they want to bring in people from other countries

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Speaker 1: by the millions. That's what the Democrats want to do,

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Speaker 1: and the Republicans don't really stop it either because again,

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Speaker 1: they get bribed by their business interests to bring to

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Speaker 1: keep the cheap labor coming in. You know, if you're

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Speaker 1: if you're running a chicken factory, right, you want all

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Speaker 1: those illegal immigrant men coming in to work in the

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Speaker 1: chicken plucking venturies, and you know you can pay them

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Speaker 1: four bucks an hour. And if they lose an arm

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Speaker 1: and machinery, they're they're not going to soothe. They've got

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Speaker 1: no one to complain to. All Right, we got more

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Speaker 1: coming up. It is the John and Ken Show on

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Speaker 1: five will be some Long Beach store owners. We're talking

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Speaker 1: specifically about downtown Long Beach, which apparently, I mean, the

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Speaker 1: numbers are startling, the increase and the homeless population, the

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Speaker 1: crime numbers horrendous. And what these business owners are saying

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Speaker 1: to the city is we're gonna leave too as many

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Speaker 1: other store owners have closed up shop, we may have

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Speaker 1: no choice but to relocate as well unless you do

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Speaker 1: something about the crime, the homelessness, and the drug use.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a couple of them on the show

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Speaker 1: after four o'clock to give us their firsthand accounts. So

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Speaker 1: what's going on in that city in downtown Long Beach. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's time once again to rattle the cage of a vegan. Now,

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Speaker 1: before we do this story, we should tell you that

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Speaker 1: our particular vegan has already taken care of this problem

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Speaker 1: and mentions it. Yeah, when it comes up on the show,

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Speaker 1: she's quick to mention that she does do this. And

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Speaker 1: the headline is a woman who could barely walk after

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Speaker 1: years of feeling extremely tired, was diagnosed with vitamin B

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Speaker 1: twelve deficiency. And that's the part where you chime in

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Speaker 1: and say, I take ace spray. It's a vitamin B

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Speaker 1: twelve vegan spray. It goes in your mouth and I

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Speaker 1: go on my tongue like a breath fresh nerve. It's delicious.

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Speaker 1: It actually just reminded me ken I forgot to squirt

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Speaker 1: it today. Is it flavored, yes, raspberry, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: quite delicious, and it's supposed to give you some energy.

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Speaker 1: And hey, every year I go and I have a

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Speaker 1: physical and I am not B twelve deficient. In fact,

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Speaker 1: one year my doctor said, oh, you have a lot

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Speaker 1: of You have a little bit too much in your

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Speaker 1: system of twelve. So I had a scale back. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it was delicious. Well it's a magic spray. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you're a vegan and you haven't eaten eggs, dairy,

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Speaker 1: and meat for more than five years, you were at risk. Uh,

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Speaker 1: when we're talking about vitamin B twelve is essential for

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Speaker 1: nerves and the red blood cells that carry oxygen around

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Speaker 1: the body. Deficient See of that vitamin typically has two

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Speaker 1: causes malabsorption because of conditions like silliac disease and something

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Speaker 1: called pernicious anemia. But doesn't because a person is eating

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Speaker 1: enough of things like B twelve. Sound naturally meat, eggs,

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Speaker 1: and dairy products. Okay, but doesn't this show you that

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Speaker 1: human beings naturally evolved to eat eggs, dairy, and meat

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Speaker 1: because without it we would get very sick. It means

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Speaker 1: the human body requires it? Yes, now, because remember you

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Speaker 1: know B twelve supplements have only been around for so long, right,

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Speaker 1: But your parents got shots when you were a child.

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Speaker 1: They did, didn't. They go to some blacky doctor and

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Speaker 1: got B twelve shots every Friday or something's right, every Thursday.

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Speaker 1: We see, they were onto something. My brother and I

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Speaker 1: had to be taken to their doctor's office and sit

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Speaker 1: in the waiting area while they got their B twelve.

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Speaker 1: So wait a second. Were your parents not meat eaters

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Speaker 1: and egg eater? Oh? They were? Okay, well there you go.

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Speaker 1: They were. They were. It was a wacky doctor. Oh

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Speaker 1: but yeah, they did eat meat and dairy and dad

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Speaker 1: my dad. Okay, so see they were still My mom

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Speaker 1: had weird eating habits. She would she would, um, she

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Speaker 1: had a juicer and she put like celery into the juicer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what's wrong with that and drink. He's ahead of her time. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that. But Ken, he's saying that

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Speaker 1: both of you guys are are thank you for worrying

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Speaker 1: about me, But you're saying that the people are being

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Speaker 1: that that are deficient in beach twelve be twelve because

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Speaker 1: they're not eating meat and eggs. But there you go.

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Speaker 1: Your your parents they ate that stuff and they still

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Speaker 1: needed I think you know, we don't know that they

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Speaker 1: needed it. They were sold a bill of goods by

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Speaker 1: this doctor. John believes. Yeah, I think so. I think

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Speaker 1: the doctor was just looking to get to a couple

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Speaker 1: of All right, fine, never mind, but if no, it's okay,

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Speaker 1: it's you know this point to bring up it. Every

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Speaker 1: week there's a story coming out about side effects of

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Speaker 1: being a vegan. Last week you were going to go ball, right,

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Speaker 1: and you could see Look at how poofy my hair is.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I think now you're proofing it up more

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Speaker 1: just to show No, I washed it the other day.

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Speaker 1: And these stories aren't really for you. There for your

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Speaker 1: vegan fans, just so you know they take care with

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Speaker 1: their diets. There. She's thirty three, Carla Minsky. She stopped

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Speaker 1: eating meat and fish in her mid twenties, trying to

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Speaker 1: be healthier, but after a year, she experienced extreme fatigue.

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Speaker 1: After six years, so exhausted she could barely walk. It

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Speaker 1: took her six years. Wow, Carly is not the brightest

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Speaker 1: bulb on the Christmas tree. Well. She thought initially that

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Speaker 1: she had a problem with her thyroid, and supposedly that

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Speaker 1: can cause tiredness if it doesn't prouse enough hormones. But

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Speaker 1: then she was told in twenty twenty, you got really

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Speaker 1: low levels levels of B twelve. So she got injections,

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Speaker 1: not spray DeMar injections that's what her parents get, and

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Speaker 1: felt better immediately. But she's going to have to take

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Speaker 1: them the rest of her life unless she goes back

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Speaker 1: to eating all these let's say one hundred years ago.

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Speaker 1: There's no such thing as vitamin B twelve shots, right,

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Speaker 1: And there's probably no such thing as vegans either, because

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Speaker 1: people had lived for tens of thousands of years of

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Speaker 1: human race and they naturally evolved it requiring meat and

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Speaker 1: dairy and eggs, right, And so you actually can't live

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Speaker 1: if you go long enough without vitamin B twelve, probably

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Speaker 1: you end up dying, It says. Her symptoms include leg tingling,

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Speaker 1: arm tinkling, trouble walking, fatigue, nausea, on, a fast heart rate,

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Speaker 1: and irritability. Irritable. I was gonna say, and your little

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Speaker 1: peppie personality, you have a fast heart rate. Probably no, probably, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm good. Apparently most people in the US do not

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Speaker 1: have this deficiency. It's not that it's not really that common,

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Speaker 1: but obviously for people that have different diets, right, because

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Speaker 1: that's a public Yeah, a cup of two percent fat.

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Speaker 1: Cow's milk contains half of all the B twelve you

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Speaker 1: need for the day. Three ounces of cook salmon or

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Speaker 1: pan fried beef contains all of it. John probably one

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Speaker 1: handburger and John's Okay, I am bursting with twelve you

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Speaker 1: were I have. I have a very strong red blood

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Speaker 1: cell levels. Those who don't need animals can still get

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Speaker 1: it from fortified plant milk, plant milk, breakfast cereals, nutritional

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Speaker 1: yeast flakes. Oh oh, yeah, that doesn't sound What about

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Speaker 1: my oat milk? Would that be considered plant if it's

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if it's fortified or not.

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Speaker 1: This story doesn't give specifics on what kind of plant

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Speaker 1: milk we're talking about it. But would that be soy milk?

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Speaker 1: Could that do it? Or is that? Well? I mean

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Speaker 1: I've I've had soy milk, I've had almond milk, I've

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Speaker 1: I have had coconut milk, I have oat milk, and

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Speaker 1: you've had your you're getting your B twelve checks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm kine. Alright. Well, I think I saidt the beginning

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Speaker 1: that you're not necessarily someone you know a lot of hair,

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Speaker 1: That's right, And let's not let's not put it out

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Speaker 1: into the universe that I'm going to go ball. Were

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Speaker 1: you checking this weekend? See if you know I forgot

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Speaker 1: all about it? No, No, I didn't worry about that.

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Speaker 1: All right. We got more coming up. But we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have some folks who run stores in Long Beach downtown

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Speaker 1: Long Beach, to be specific, to talk about the problems

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Speaker 1: they were dealing with with homelessness and crime and how

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Speaker 1: they're really at their ends. Here John and Ken kf

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Speaker 1: I Am six forty live everywhere in the iHeart Radio

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