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Speaker 1: enjoy this episode. There he is. What up? What you

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Speaker 2: Sorry? I was trying to find my my headphones. What's up?

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Speaker 2: How are you guys?

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Speaker 3: We're doing great? Man. My Our first question as as

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Speaker 3: a bus that we're very curious and knowing with you is, uh,

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Speaker 3: what's your favorite color?

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Speaker 2: Blue?

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Speaker 3: All right? You want to say, go blue? Hey, you

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Speaker 3: really shut the haters up with that one. Why did

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Speaker 3: we just we just we just want to say. It's

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Speaker 3: a segment called get to Know Greg.

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Speaker 1: Get to Know Greg. We'll get to you next week.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm walking into something.

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Speaker 3: You're not walking into anything.

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Speaker 1: Nothing. We just know that we know that your favorite

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Speaker 1: color is blue.

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Speaker 2: Now all right, well, I'm glad we settled that. Can

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Speaker 2: you did your guys? My entire time line during NFL

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Speaker 2: football games is people talking shit about momentum. By the way,

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Speaker 2: and I literally smile like I'm now like searching the

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Speaker 2: word momentum to see how many of them are related

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Speaker 2: to like our conversations on here. It makes me so

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Speaker 2: happy to be chirped by the internet and be like,

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Speaker 2: can't wait till Olsen's on with Buston and we could

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Speaker 2: talk about all the momentum that Seattle had or like

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Speaker 2: the rams it was. It is magical moments on the internet.

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Speaker 1: It is. Did you watch any of the college football?

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Speaker 1: I know your NFL guy, did you watch Oklahoma Alabama?

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Speaker 2: I watched Oklahoma Alabama?

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Speaker 3: Lot shifting?

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Speaker 1: Was that one toss out to their sideline all of

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Speaker 2: It's just you know, there was so many, so much

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Speaker 2: the part that I just have a hard time and

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Speaker 2: you got again. I'm very open minded to being taught

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Speaker 2: to believe, like, why when I have all the momentum,

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Speaker 2: do you guys take it back so easily and then

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Speaker 2: give it back to me.

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Speaker 3: It's a fickle thing because it's funny people trying to

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Speaker 1: I think college football, there's much more of an argument

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Speaker 2: Who had the momentum in the Miami game?

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Speaker 1: Neither Neither neither, because I'm playing the game back in

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Speaker 1: my head, dude, and it's like Miami could have won

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Speaker 3: All those field goals or field goals.

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Speaker 2: Tony got tripped by his toenail on that he's by

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like Miami has a chance against Ohio State?

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Speaker 2: I think you always have a chance, right, I think

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Speaker 2: I do schools or teams. But that's just my approach. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously, No, I share a lot of that too.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, Ryan Day is not being considered for

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Speaker 2: He's not a who is Michigan going to hire? That's

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, and I'll be honest, like it's

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Speaker 1: the whole thing allegedly allegedly you.

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Speaker 2: That you guys, can you hear me?

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Speaker 3: Can you hear us?

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Speaker 2: I lost your sound your.

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Speaker 1: Baby that he's blaming you talking about Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Let me just yeah, let me mute this. I can't

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Speaker 3: no going back.

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Speaker 2: Where were you saying about Michigan.

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Speaker 1: It's a shit show. And I think that like strategically,

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Speaker 1: you can't you can't be Hey, if this happens, then

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Speaker 3: That we know.

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Speaker 1: Hey, they and they're aware, we're aware back channels the

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Speaker 1: whole thing. We had an oseron on and he's meeting

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Speaker 1: the kind of backdoor stuff I need going on at

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Speaker 1: clearly there's a lot of bigger issues out there, but

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Speaker 3: The entire Michigan plan just got yeah, yeah, if that is, do.

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Speaker 2: You really think do you really think Kaitlin de Borr

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Speaker 1: So I think, in a vacuum, just that statement is no.

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Speaker 2: The Dillingham thing to me is interesting, right. So he

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Speaker 2: thinking to myself, like, at Michigan, you could have five

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's in big game.

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Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood ten million. So if you know money is

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Speaker 2: why not take the Michigan job. Unless that Michigan job

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Speaker 2: take it, is all I can think of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is everything you just said. Is the fear

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Speaker 1: it's like everyone's willing, Like the ad of Michigan says,

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Speaker 2: That is where a momentum is real. But I banged

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Speaker 2: In that case, the momentum was completely real. The sideline

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Speaker 1: It's it's Greg Olson in Carolina, it's fifty cent in Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: Exactly when you smacked that drum.

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Speaker 3: The team needed a spark and they got it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, how do you uh, since we're in the NFC,

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Speaker 2: Players crazy, It's unbelievable. I think the NFL NFC is

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Speaker 2: like that Lane Johnson's going to be back for this

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Speaker 1: They play the Seahawks, I think or the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they played I thought they played Seattle the last week.

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Speaker 1: I think the Rams, the Rams will beat them. I

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Speaker 3: It's Rams, forty nine ers in green Bay right now?

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Speaker 1: I think Philly wins that game. I think Philly. This

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Speaker 3: They're not unbeatable. But again, the Bears went into Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: That was the two point. That was the down fifteen

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Speaker 2: I could make a strong for Philly. I could make

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be done for that Eagles team to

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Speaker 2: Right now, momentum of the Bears is real.

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Speaker 3: Dude, it is. I have so much fun.

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Speaker 2: They have so much momentum.

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Speaker 1: It's it's clearly there's always been some sort of not

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Speaker 1: hit the defense and not very good. They're more opportunistic

436
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Speaker 1: the Williams, he throws the ball under sixty percent completion percentage,

437
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Speaker 1: but they just win. Yeah, and then Caleb Williams in

438
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Speaker 1: overtime throws an absolute bomb and doesn't get crazy, except

439
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 1: he just does maybe the hardest celebration ever by just

440
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Speaker 1: dusting the shoulders and putting his hands in his pockets.

441
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Speaker 1: It's like, hey, these boys are real. Yeah, hate on

442
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Speaker 1: the nails, but you want.

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Speaker 2: His hands were in his hand warmer before the ball

444
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Speaker 2: was caught.

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Speaker 1: Dad, you can't. You got a juicy up walk off.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing, amazing, Bears, when the Super Bowl?

447
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Speaker 2: Your nails? What's that?

448
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Speaker 3: Bears?

449
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 1: When the Super Bowl? Are you painting your fingernails in solidarity? Yeah? Sure, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll do it.

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Speaker 2: I'll have a Macha, I'll paint my fingernails whatever.

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Speaker 1: Hey hey, I'll tell you what though, Manchas kind of

453
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Speaker 1: go hard, right.

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Speaker 2: I've tried it. My wife's got My wife got into

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Speaker 2: Mancha for a while, and I would like, I'm not

456
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Speaker 2: a coffee guy. I've never had a cup of coffee.

457
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Speaker 2: But I'll crush an espresso martini but I've never but

458
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Speaker 2: I've never had a cup of coffee. Like, I don't

459
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Speaker 2: start my day with coffee.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's it's a weird brag. It's a

461
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Speaker 1: weird brag. But also, you've had coffeepresso martini.

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Speaker 2: I crushed an espresso martini at dinner. We actually made

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Speaker 2: him at the house last night, just as like a

464
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Speaker 2: little nightcap after the game. And yeah, it's just a

465
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Speaker 2: weird thing. I do not crave coffee. My wife loves it.

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Speaker 2: I've sipped it. I've I'll be like, hey, is this

467
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Speaker 2: a great cup? Like She's like, this is a great

468
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Speaker 2: cup of coffee. I'm all right, I'm gonna try it

469
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Speaker 2: and I'll take a sip of like I don't I

470
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Speaker 2: don't get it. I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: Life is your caffeine, bro.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I'm just I'm ready to talk ball with

473
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Speaker 2: the boys. Need a coffee to get up in the

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Speaker 2: morning to talk ball.

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Speaker 3: No, a cup of coffee is life. That's wild. As

476
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Speaker 3: Taylor just puts down in some cold brew. I love

477
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Speaker 3: it the cup right now.

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Speaker 1: But Macha you like macha?

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Speaker 2: No, that was my point. I took a sip of

480
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Speaker 2: her like when she was in her Macha phase, and uh, yeah,

481
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Speaker 2: it just had like a weird I don't know. It

482
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Speaker 2: didn't do it for me.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's a bummer. That's a bummer.

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Speaker 2: Coffee are you into it? Is it like a daily I'm.

485
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Speaker 1: Like, I'm a black coffee guy, and I only waver

486
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Speaker 1: from that kind of like during the holiday season when

487
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Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm feel a little faster. Let me

488
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Speaker 1: get this pumpkin spice, let me go and get this

489
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Speaker 1: peppermint whatever. But it's it's pretty much just that my

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Speaker 1: wife's had a couple of machas and it tastes like

491
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Speaker 1: what are those like Japanese desserts that are like a

492
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Speaker 1: little rice paper round up but there's ice cream in

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Speaker 1: the middle. What are the called? Anyway, I'm man just

494
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Speaker 1: tasting a green tea one of those onward. Yeah, not

495
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Speaker 1: the show. Not the show we're looking at, dude. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the NFC is exciting, but like you look at the Broncos, Patriots,

497
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Speaker 1: and Jags right now, even the Chargers. It's like.

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Speaker 3: A Hello, is there a hotter team in the NFL

499
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Speaker 3: right now than the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: No sinse.

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Speaker 3: Last week when it was the Broncos, yeah, then they just.

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Speaker 2: And the Broncos had all the momentum until last week's

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Speaker 2: game against Jacksonville. But to your point, I have Jacksonville

504
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Speaker 2: this week against Indy in Indy. Could be a sneaky

505
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Speaker 2: fun game.

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Speaker 3: Could be a sneaky fun game. I don't It's hard

507
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Speaker 3: for me to buy that the culture going to put

508
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Speaker 3: up a fight now that we have a little bit

509
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Speaker 3: of film with Philip Rivers and we see what, you know,

510
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Speaker 3: how they might try and schematically attack Jacksonville. Jacksonville is hot,

511
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Speaker 3: right yeaw bro, they're good.

512
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Speaker 1: But to put it uh, for Greg's point, like Jacksonville

513
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Speaker 1: the top dog right now, they just beat the top

514
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Speaker 1: What a perfect game for them to kind of like

515
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Speaker 1: play a little below their level and making a sneaky

516
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Speaker 1: fun game to watch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like if they search out the storylines, I think storylines.

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Speaker 2: I think Indianapolis played their ass off on defense. Last

519
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Speaker 2: week in Seattle, had the lead with twenty seconds left.

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Speaker 2: You know, here we are talking about Seattle is one

521
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Speaker 2: of the best teams in the league in Indy with

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Speaker 2: a quarterback that I hadn't played in four years. Went

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Speaker 2: to Seattle and took the lead with thirty seconds and

524
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Speaker 2: you know, obviously didn't win, but went toe to toe

525
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Speaker 2: with them in their place. We'll see how they do

526
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Speaker 2: tonight against San Francisco. They play well against San Francisco tonight,

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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers gets a couple more weeks to get his

528
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Speaker 2: feet under him, get back in shape a little bit,

529
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Speaker 2: get the juices ripping.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think when they assigned us that game, I was like, interesting,

532
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Speaker 2: like not typically a Fox game, not a game that

533
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Speaker 2: I would have anticipated. But as the last week or

534
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Speaker 2: two have gone on, especially watching Jacksonville yesterday for the

535
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Speaker 2: first time, like really sitting down to watch them in

536
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Speaker 2: that late window against Denver, I was like, these guys

537
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Speaker 2: are good, Like there's nothing fluky about this. I mean

538
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Speaker 2: they won against they beat Denver decisively.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm more like going to the Seattle going thinking

540
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Speaker 3: about the Colts. Like I know, there's really no like

541
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Speaker 3: lookover games in the NFL, but part of me I

542
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: buy more that Seattle was looking toward more of their

543
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Speaker 3: Thursday night game against the Rams than when they were

544
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Speaker 3: you know, having full focus, having full energy into the

545
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Speaker 3: game against the Colts. You can get loaded in that trap,

546
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Speaker 3: you can get LOLd. I'm not saying like it's intentional

547
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Speaker 3: on Seattle's part, but again, they had a massive game

548
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Speaker 3: coming up Thursday night, a rematch against the Rams. To

549
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Speaker 3: where you're playing the Colts Philip rivers like you don't

550
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Speaker 3: have You don't know exactly how they're going to go

551
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 3: about everything offensively with Phil. They kind of snuck up

552
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Speaker 3: on them. Then Seattle had to realized in the final

553
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Speaker 3: minute of the game, Hey hey guys, we're the Seattle Seahawks.

554
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Speaker 3: Let's go down here to some points. Yeah, and get

555
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Speaker 3: onto a Thursday game.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I mean just being on the Seattle that that

557
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Speaker 1: game against the Rams is that the best That had

558
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Speaker 1: to be the best game of the entire year.

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Speaker 2: Totally, it was.

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Speaker 1: We were able to watch that game because we were Dude.

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Speaker 1: Last Thursday was a ship show for us. But the

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Speaker 1: two do you think we are?

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Speaker 2: You guys?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't. I was in New York doing Christmas

565
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 3: in New York with the family, so I didn't get

566
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Speaker 3: to really watch which of the game last last year

567
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Speaker 3: for Busting with the.

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Speaker 2: Boys, I saw the lady took your family picture and

569
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Speaker 2: put her finger in the lanes. That was good. You

570
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: guys don't think I follow you, guys. I know I am.

571
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: I'm all in on busting. I'm all in with the boys.

572
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Speaker 2: I appreciate their lives. I like following your kids.

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Speaker 3: I'm in I love it. Yeah, one thing.

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Speaker 1: One thing too. We had a whole conversation about Greg

575
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Speaker 1: Olsen leaving Fox coming to bustle with the boys last.

576
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Speaker 2: Weear like, we know you're about it.

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Speaker 1: We're about it as well. We'll figure the whole thing out.

578
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Speaker 1: But you're watching that game. I'm watching that game to

579
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Speaker 1: the first two point conversion happens and ball gets bad

580
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Speaker 1: at down, someone just picks it up in the end

581
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Speaker 1: zone and itcounts from your vantage point if you are

582
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Speaker 1: the referee and you're watching that back, is that a

583
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Speaker 1: backwards pass? In your opinion?

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Speaker 2: It was. I love it because remember La, because remember

585
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 2: sideways is backwards, so different the way the letter of

586
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: the law. And they harp this. Mike Pereira sends out

587
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: videos to us at Fox like weekly, anywhere between ten

588
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: and twenty five minutes of like all the controversial calls,

589
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: real nuanced rules, just to try to bake some of

590
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Speaker 2: these situations in our head in the event you get

591
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: that like random one off. So lateral is backwards, backwards

592
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 2: is backwards, it has to be a forward pass. So

593
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Speaker 2: from the time that ball left his hand and hit

594
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Speaker 2: the guy in the helmet, it was clearly going backwards.

595
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Speaker 2: And it's just such a weird play because the whistle

596
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. There's no such thing as an inadvertent whistle

597
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: if it is picked up. A backward pass can be

598
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 2: at advanced by the non throwing player, a fumble cannot

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00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: be advanced, or like, there's some real nuance to all

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Speaker 2: of this. But by the letter of the law, that

601
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Speaker 2: is a conversion. I would not be shocked to see

602
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Speaker 2: that placed on the table at like the owner's meeting

603
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: and say, Okay, no one ever imagined that moment was

604
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 2: going to happen. Let's put some guardrails in place to

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Speaker 2: make sure you don't get awarded a two point conversion

606
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Speaker 2: when you failed the two point conversion. I would not

607
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: be shocked to see them try to put some more

608
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Speaker 2: like specific rulings for that exact situation, because that sucks.

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Speaker 2: Like you defend that play. Everyone had given up on

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00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: the play and it eventually led to you losing. Kind

611
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Speaker 2: of a weird one, but by the letter of the law,

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Speaker 2: it was legit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean did the referees, man, but.

614
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Speaker 2: Will what do they teach you? Right? What do they

615
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: teach you guys on defense? Man?

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Speaker 3: No, you're right, but I'm thinking of other situations everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely,

617
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Speaker 3: get on the ball, pick up everything.

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Speaker 3: Did you see the situations with the Lions. Yes, even

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Speaker 3: when you're watching the Patriots game and the uh Drake

631
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Speaker 3: may throw is a deep ball, I forget the.

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Speaker 1: Booty should have been should have been a flag? Yeah,

633
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Speaker 1: nearly as clear as day should have been a flag.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Humphrey's just sitting there tackling him like right in

635
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Speaker 3: front of like everybody. The announcers are even laughing about it, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's a miss. Like that's that's a pass interference, right,

637
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Speaker 3: Like moments that just at her and we're seeing we

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Speaker 3: just I feel like it, especially this time of year,

639
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: like it sticks out like a sore thumb, and like

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Speaker 3: when there's a bad call that happens. Would you make

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Speaker 3: of the lion situations down there? Like when they went

642
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Speaker 3: for it was when they went for two, right or

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Speaker 3: the touchdown the score the little pick touchdown, the little

644
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Speaker 3: pick route and then he was even not even a

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Speaker 3: pick route.

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Speaker 1: It was a bott let me go body, Jel and

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Speaker 1: Ramsey throw him into the the rafts for a second,

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Speaker 1: come back to the ball, not score.

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Speaker 2: There was two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so there was there's a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Time with the last play of the game. Is that

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Speaker 1: What about that they scored?

653
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Speaker 2: They scored on a pick route, They ran a little

654
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Speaker 2: dart slant.

655
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Washington, Darnell Washington, Okay, remember the wrong play, keep.

656
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Speaker 2: Going no but no, but that no, but you're right.

657
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: But the whole series of events was wild because they're

658
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: up five. They kick a very short field goal to

659
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: go up eight, saying, okay, at least we gave force

660
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: a tie at the very least, and the guy misses it.

661
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,719
Speaker 2: They picked this dealers. Kicker misses it, so they remained

662
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: down five. So now it's touchdown or bust four down mode,

663
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: go to win the game, and they score, But it

664
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: was real late, Like the TV, they didn't reference that

665
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: there was a flag on the pick route to the

666
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: right corner, like they no one said there was a flag.

667
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: They're showing the celebration, you know how usually like the

668
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: yellow thing that says flag, yeah, pops up. Nothing came

669
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: and then like i'd say, a good fifteen seconds later,

670
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: the flag was referenced. Then they showed the replay and

671
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, obviously clearly past interference. Then the aman

672
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: Rah one that you're talking about, Taylor was insane. I mean,

673
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: the amount of moving parts there. I would have liked

674
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: to have seen a replay. I don't write like we

675
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: all assumed it was going to be some sort of

676
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: past interference, but we didn't actually get a replay of

677
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: aman Rah punching the guy in the chest at the

678
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: goal line Jalen Ramsey until clearly after the officials announcement.

679
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: But in those situations, putting all that together is not easy,

680
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: right for Romo and Nance to try to decipher all

681
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: that in the real moment is not easy. The biggest

682
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: part of all of that is offensive penalties don't extend

683
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: the game. Right, So even if you don't know, even

684
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: if in which I don't blame them for not knowing,

685
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: then there was a lateral. If it was clearly a lateral,

686
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: it can be advanced by golf because it's under two minutes.

687
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: If it was a fumble, it cannot be advanced by

688
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: anyone other than the fumbling party.

689
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: In that case, Tom and Ross worked down correct.

690
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 2: Inside two minutes.

691
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: I thought it was only fourth down. The only person

692
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: that can advance the ball is the guy that fumbled.

693
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: Pretty sure. Now you have me second guessing myself. We

694
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: have to Now you have me second guessing. I'm fairly

695
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: certain there's a time element. I think fourth down for sure. Yes,

696
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: So in that case it would have been fourth down,

697
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: and in the last two minutes, I'm pretty sure there's

698
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: a time element. But now you have me second and

699
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: guessing myself, so we can fact I hate doing that

700
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: fourth down, fourth down for sure. But so like, there

701
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: was so many different factors on there, but the only

702
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: thing that mattered was offensive penalty. As as time goes

703
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: to zero, regardless of the outcome of the play. There

704
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: is no untimed down. Untimed downs only for defensive penalties,

705
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: which happens very rarely. That off the top of your head,

706
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: I'm not sure f in the moment, I would have

707
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Speaker 2: known it either.

708
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Speaker 1: And the thing that's crazy too, is like, while the

709
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: referees are sitting there and talking, you have Steelers players

710
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: and Lions players like coming in trying to give their

711
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: two cents in the whole thing. And you could tell,

712
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: like in their minds from an entertainment standpoint, it might

713
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: not be just entertainment, but they're like getting the players

714
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: far enough away to where they can have a conversation

715
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: without them hearing, to where you don't see like the

716
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: Steelers guys cheering or any of that. Exactly true. Ww shit.

717
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: And then for the referee, and I my heart goes

718
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: out to the Lions and fans made because it's got

719
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: to be such a heartbreaking, like getting your hopes up

720
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: like that heartbreaking. But for him to start over all

721
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: the things being like the result of the plays a

722
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: touchdown is the craziest way to start all of that.

723
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 3: And you're just like, and you.

724
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: Hear the Lions fans lose their mind, like we just

725
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: won and our playoff hopes are alive. We're ripping all

726
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: the things, and he goes the result of the play

727
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: is a touchdown. But but but that it was like,

728
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, it was It was true cinema.

729
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 3: It really was fair.

730
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Speaker 2: And that's such a tough announcement, right, because you have

731
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 2: to acknowledge it was a touchdown. It was a legal lateral,

732
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: but it was an offensive penalty. Yes, time expired, because

733
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: if there was one second left, they would have enforced

734
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: the offensive pass interference retried fourth down. But because it

735
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: went to zero. I mean, there was so many elements

736
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: to that play in real time, and then to get

737
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: up there and address the crowd, the country and concisely

738
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 2: package it all together for it to just make sense.

739
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 2: I don't envy the position of the officials.

740
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 3: Now, you almost can't start off with the result of

741
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 3: the playoff a touchdown. You almost just have to say,

742
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 3: all right, guys, bear with me for one for sixty seconds,

743
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 3: grab a beer.

744
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, just hold hold on your ass.

745
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: R take a quick five minute break. We'll get back

746
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: to you in.

747
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 3: Just a moment. Yeah, yeah, everybody, bear with me, because

748
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say something you're gonna get excited, but then

749
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: it's gonna make you very mad, So just let me

750
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: finish the sixty seconds.

751
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, And dude, like Rogers after that just kind

752
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: of like sitting there and you can see he's like

753
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: reflecting in his postgame press conference about ten years ago

754
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: he did X, Y, and Z. He was a part

755
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: of a game like this thirteen years ago, except where

756
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: we had a bad refs and you just kind of

757
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: see like the joy on Rogers's face for the first

758
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: time in a long time. It's like, good for you Mansen.

759
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 2: Putting good balls. Bicep tack. Yeah, that kept sticking out

760
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: to me. I was like, God, I didn't realize he

761
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: was all tatted up, but they kept showing. I don't

762
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: know if you wore like a different sleeve or like

763
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: he didn't work. I don't know what was going on,

764
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: but like we got a hundred shot. We didn't get

765
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: the replay sequence, but we got the shot of Rogers's

766
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 2: arm tat like ten times, which was also mind blowing.

767
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: I didn't even realize he was tatted up.

768
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

769
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Speaker 1: It was awesome. Man.

770
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: Lot going on that. I mean, you talk about the

771
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: three three National Games, Thursday the Bears Packers on Fox,

772
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 2: and then that ending on CBS, like both teams down

773
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 2: ten points plus in the fourth quarter come back. It

774
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: was oh no, that was last night's game. But like

775
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 2: then you factor in Sunday's game where they were down

776
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: ten New England. Those four games, the drama that ended

777
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: those four games is incredible.

778
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a in that New England game when

779
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: they were I think it was eleven. Yeah, they were down,

780
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: they were down eleven, they were score and so they're

781
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: down by four and I thought I saw a Rabel

782
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: put a one up, and I'm think him, ain't no

783
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: way they're going for one right now to make it

784
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: a four point game, Like, you got to make it

785
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: a three points. So I got my phone out, We're

786
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: ready to take a photo, not minutes left in the

787
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: fourth blah blah blah. And then the end up going

788
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: for two. I'm like, all right, what are gonna talk

789
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: about this with Greg tomorrow? Because that would have been

790
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: a devastating, strategically bad move by them.

791
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. Bad. I sit there now, and all the games

792
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 3: I watch, I almost question every time do they need

793
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 3: to be going.

794
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: For it right here? One hundred percent?

795
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 3: They should go for two. Damn there every time. Yeah, yeah,

796
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: they should.

797
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: Go amount up two point plays this weekend, dude, we

798
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: saw Siriani late in the game. The game was over.

799
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: In our game, go up seventeen, Tank Bigsby, I want

800
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: to say it was Tank Bigsby scored to go up seventeen.

801
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: Instead of kicking the extra point to go up eighteen,

802
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: he went for two to go up nineteen. In the moment, right,

803
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: I'm factoring on this. I'm like, I guess being up

804
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: nineteens better than being up eighteen. I'm like literally doing

805
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: this in the commercial break in my brain, and I'm like, well,

806
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: cause it's two touchdowns, two two point conversions and a

807
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: field goal tie versus two touchdowns, two two point conversions

808
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: and a field goal beats you. But there's four minutes

809
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: to go in the game, Josh Johnson's at quarterback. Is

810
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: there really a likelihood of them even getting three? And

811
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: I'm like doing all these mental gymnastics in my head,

812
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know what, They've missed three field goals.

813
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: They're kicking situations a disaster, Like I don't blame him,

814
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 2: just go work on your two point plays. Like that's

815
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 2: literally how I ended up like summarizing it, Yeah, because

816
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: to be up nineteen eighteen, I don't know if it

817
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: really mattered at that point in the game. It was over,

818
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, what is that fight broke out?

819
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: What's your preference on calling a Friday game? Like does

820
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: it mess up your routine or you kind of about

821
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: it that way? You can go watch ball Saturday Sunday.

822
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: It was so my game was Saturday, so I called

823
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: it this Saturday. That Saturday. Fox had a doubleheader this year,

824
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: which was super cool. So we got two national games.

825
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: We did so I think when they started, when they

826
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 2: set the schedule and they told us about this, I

827
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: think the assumption was our crew was going to do

828
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: Bears Packers, and then the night game Burkhart and Tom

829
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: Kevin and Tom were going to do the rematch of

830
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 2: the NFC championship, right Eagles depending Super Bowl champs against

831
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: the Commanders and and all that. So obviously, with the

832
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: year Washington had, they flipped the game, so we got

833
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: Washington Philly. But still really cool. I mean, two national

834
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: games on a Saturday obviously went up head to head

835
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: against some of the college football playoff games. But I

836
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: loved it. It allowed me to go to the Panther game yesterday.

837
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: Took my boys to the Panther game. Got to watch them.

838
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: Obviously the momentum that we built on banging the drum.

839
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was weird waking up on a Sunday

840
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: and just like hanging strolling up to the stadium. Had

841
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: a couple of beers during the game, watch it. It

842
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: was it was fun.

843
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 3: I love it, dude on the on the situational ball.

844
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: The Bears ended up winning the game, but at the

845
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: end when they decided to kick the extra point, then

846
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: go for two? Are you thinking are you going for two?

847
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: You know what, in most instances, I'm going for two

848
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 2: to try to just end the game in the moment,

849
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 2: the moment, I do think you.

850
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: Have all the momentum win the game in regular and.

851
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 2: I've said that you want to win the game in regulation.

852
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 2: I think the calculation that they made was the team

853
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: we're playings down, their star quarterback, offensively, struggling, haven't really

854
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 2: gotten a lot of things going. So this is where

855
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: the analytics world fights back and says, these are not computers,

856
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: these are not robots. All of these factors are baked

857
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: into the final number that gets spit out. Right, you

858
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: go into there's a league wide do you go for it,

859
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 2: don't you? League wide trends? Then each individual team has

860
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: to take that data in advance predetermined Okay, how does

861
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: this data affect my team based on what we know?

862
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: And that's before the game and these little books that

863
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: they produce because you're not allowed to have tablets, you're

864
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: not allowed to have the technology. We can have it

865
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: in the booth as broadcasters. They can't have it in

866
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: the booth with the coaching staff. They can't have it

867
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: on the sideline. They're not allowed access to computers, phones,

868
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: tablets that have like any Internet access because they don't

869
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: want them doing these real, real time calculations. So it's

870
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 2: all pre set in these scenario books that they do,

871
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: but then you have to apply it to what's actually

872
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: going on in the game. Right, So there is an

873
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: element of real time information that's being calculated. And I

874
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: think the knock on analytics is, well, you say, go

875
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: for a quarterback sneak, but what if you're left guards

876
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: or what if you're and and the guys who do

877
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: support it sit here and says it is being baked in.

878
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: All those decisions are being calculated by yes or no.

879
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: So I actually do think it was smart to go

880
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: to overtime because I think the conversation there was, we're

881
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: playing against a backup quarterback. We're playing against you know,

882
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: Jordan loves out. I think if Jordan loves in and

883
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: that game is a higher scoring, more offensive efficiency, I'm

884
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 2: going for two. I'm ending the game.

885
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I can get on board with that.

886
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said a lot. He said a lot to

887
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,479
Speaker 3: essentially say, I like our ball club better in ot

888
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 3: because we have momentum going forward. So we're playing against

889
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: a backup quarterback.

890
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: Well, momentum, the momentum of the game, and the fact

891
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: that Jordan Love, one of the best five quarterbacks in

892
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 2: the league, is out of the game in concussion protocol

893
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: are two very different conversations.

894
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with you, but you're still you're you're

895
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: basing it off your your gut instinct and you're feeling on, Hey,

896
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 3: they don't have Jordan Love. We just drove down a scored.

897
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: Like well thirty eight.

898
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: Because again, by the book, by analytics, you go for

899
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: two and win in regulation, greg are number one. Win

900
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 3: in regulation.

901
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: You want to win in regulation. That's every decision that

902
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: you make is about increasing your opportunity to win the

903
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 2: game in regulation that is one hundred percent. How all

904
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: these the point being, you're not trying to play for

905
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 2: a tie when there's five minutes to go in the

906
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: game and you're deciding how many possessions do I have?

907
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: How many times am I going to get the ball back?

908
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: Do I want to be down nine or seven? All

909
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 2: the things we've covered this year, especially in the last

910
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. Every decision, the final output is about

911
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: win probability, not tie probability. Okay, so just understanding that's

912
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: the framework of how all these models are built. But

913
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: then in the nuance of the game, and this is

914
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: where like and again, like the analytics crowd gets kind

915
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: of like put like into a locker. Like you guys

916
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: are the nerds on the internet. You know, we're football people.

917
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: We know more than you that the knock on analytics

918
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: is that you're not taking into account what's happening in

919
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: a football game. Right. You're not taking into account injuries.

920
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: You're not taking into account is the starting quarterback in

921
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: or out the center, whatever it is, the score of

922
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 2: the game. Is it a high scoring game? Yeah? I

923
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: want to end this shit. I do not want Green

924
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 2: Bay to possess the ball. We haven't stopped them all day.

925
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: We talked about that last week in the Buffalo, New

926
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: England game, right where it's like, we haven't stopped Josh

927
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: Allen in three quarters, Why do I want to give

928
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: him the ball back? So all those factors, the analyts, crowd,

929
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: if that's what I want to be thrown in, I don't.

930
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: That's fine. Those things are being taken into account, but

931
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: we're not taking into account how people feel on the

932
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: sideline and how good the postgame, the pregame huddle was,

933
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: and we just scored two touchdowns, so I'm going to

934
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: go for two now, and I didn't score a touchdown,

935
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: so I'm not going to go for two. Those are

936
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 2: the arguments that have zero bearing on the actual outcome.

937
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: It's not that guys don't feel it, it's just over

938
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: long periods of time, the outcomes don't support that right.

939
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: And a lot of the coveries we revolve around with situational

940
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 1: two not to happens at the end of the game.

941
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: In the Miami Texas A and M game, it was

942
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: clear that both defenses were being were killing each other

943
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: they were the biggest part of the game in the

944
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: office is we're getting nothing going. Miami finds himselves in

945
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: a fourth and three to five situation, down on like

946
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: the six yard line, going into their end zone. They

947
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: elect to kick three. They missed the three, and that's

948
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: what youuation. Are you going for the touchdown in that position?

949
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 3: Yeah?

950
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: So college. I don't pretend to know the college landscape.

951
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: Just use the conversation we're having as these are two

952
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: football teams that both defenses are I'll.

953
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: Take, I'll take. Yeah, So I'll again this happened in

954
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: the NFL game, because I do think the kickoff situation

955
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: in the NFL is a significant difference. There's some nuance

956
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: about field position, right, Like, you know, I fail going

957
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 2: forward on fourth and three at the three. If I

958
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 2: get it, I get seven. If I go for it

959
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: and fail, you got the ball in the minus three.

960
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: But if I kick a field goal, let's just call

961
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: the average starting field position in the NFL is the

962
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: thirty two. So I got three points, but I gave

963
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: you twenty nine yards. So there is some There is

964
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: some context about the NFL that makes some of these

965
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: goal to go situations very different. I'll take my game.

966
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: I called on Saturday and I said this in real time.

967
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: What it have mattered, I don't know. Opening kickoff of

968
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: the game, Philadelphia gets the all. They fumble the opening kickoff.

969
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: Washington gets the ball on the I don't know, inside

970
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: to thirty. They go down, they go down, they go down.

971
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: They have like fourth in goal to two two and

972
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: a half ish and uh on third and two, third

973
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: and three from they threw an incomplete pass on fourth down.

974
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: They kicked the field goal, so they got an opening

975
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: kickoff return fumble, got the ball in Philly's field in

976
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: Philly side of the field, got the ball inside the

977
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 2: five and kicked the field goal to go up three

978
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: to nothing. If you're a Philly running off the field defensively,

979
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: let's talk vibes for a minute. How you feel and

980
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: will you just got a sudden change. You didn't think

981
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 2: you were starting the game. Next thing you know, you're

982
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: on defense, sudden change backed up, All of the motions

983
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 2: are high, all the vibes we talk about and all this,

984
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: and you force a field goals at a win or loss, it's.

985
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: A massive dub massive win.

986
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: Right, You go for it, you go, you go for

987
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: the touchdown.

988
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: So that's that's an example. So that they kick off

989
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: and now instead of the first time, you know, the

990
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 2: first time Jalen Hurts gets you know, behind center in

991
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: that game, instead of if he's in the gun, he's

992
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: in the end zone. If not, he's under center at

993
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: the one. Instead he's got the ball at the you know,

994
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 2: we'll call it the thirty three.

995
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, fair points.

996
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: You gotta go for it.

997
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: You gotta go for it. The goals get your beat, man.

998
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: I mean, look at look at the Rams on Thursday night.

999
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 2: Now they scored thirty points. How many now that one

1000
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: got taken away on a pass interference? Are on a

1001
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: legal man downfield? Right? One of the early touchdowns. How

1002
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 2: many field goals did LA kick inside the ten yard line?

1003
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: I don't know the number, but a lot.

1004
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: I'll look at least too.

1005
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, if you get inside the ten, you got

1006
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: to start having the conversation with yourself as like, we're

1007
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: using four downs to get these ten yards. It seems

1008
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: like that is now I think the new world we

1009
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: are living in. But if you're going through the game

1010
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: and both offenses are absolutely crushing it and you are,

1011
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 1: are you then thinking maybe we don't go for it here.

1012
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: I don't know kind I'm losing my train of thought

1013
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: a little bit because they so nuanced and it does

1014
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: have so much to do with what's taking place during

1015
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: the game.

1016
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: Take the points, man.

1017
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 2: I think, first two field goals. First two field goals

1018
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: that La kicked. They were down seven to nothing. They

1019
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: kicked the field goal from the six in the first

1020
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: quarter to go down seven to three. And then their

1021
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 2: first possession of the second quarter, they had the ball

1022
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: and they got down fourth and two at the five,

1023
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: got a delay a game fourth, and then they went

1024
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: to fourth and seven at the ten, they kicked the

1025
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: field goal. Yeah, well, you may had the ball at

1026
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,479
Speaker 2: the six and they had the ball at the two

1027
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: and they got six points.

1028
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: You get the delay a game, you gotta kick the

1029
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: field goal, but you should be going for in the situation.

1030
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 2: Again, I didn't see that part of the game. So

1031
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: then they try to make them jump. I don't know

1032
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: exactly what they did, but yeah, no, And listen. The

1033
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: cool thing that I think about all of this is

1034
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: and we joke about momentum, and we joke about what's

1035
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: the best in all this. At the end of the day,

1036
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: I think the cool thing that comes from a lot

1037
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: of these conversations we've had all year is more people

1038
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 2: are thinking about it, talking about it, discussing it. They

1039
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: might not agree, they might not all be on the

1040
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: same side of the argument, and that's fine. But I

1041
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: think it's pretty cool that people now are watching the

1042
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: game with those scenarios in their head and watching the

1043
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: game that they think it's time to chirp all of

1044
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: us on Twitter. They're thinking about it. It's in their mind,

1045
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: and maybe a year or two ago, it never even

1046
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 2: dawned on people that these are the decisions that the

1047
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: coaches are wrestling with in real time. We're thinking about

1048
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: it sitting on the couch just watching as fans. But

1049
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: this is very much what's going on all week long,

1050
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: during the game, after the game, in postgame recaps, pregame meetings,

1051
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: and I think it's cool that now fans and viewers

1052
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: are going through the same mental exercises of game management

1053
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: and strategy that the players and the coaches are going through.

1054
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: I think that's the win of all of this.

1055
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: If anything's come from this conference reason that we've been

1056
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: having on busting with the Boys, it's that we are

1057
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: building strong character in these coaches to understand it's okay

1058
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: to go to the podium and stand ten toes down

1059
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: on some of these decisions you're making. Don't take the

1060
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: scared way out anymore. We are now giving you a

1061
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: vessel to where you can stand on a podium and go.

1062
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: I learned this on Busting with the Boys. This is

1063
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 1: the correct.

1064
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 2: Exactly, yeah, exactly.

1065
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 3: I'd love to I love to watch a game with Greg. Yeah,

1066
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: just look over and be like, you gotta take the

1067
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 3: points here.

1068
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: Because it was truly great, Like, no, you gotta take

1069
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: the points here.

1070
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 3: And then when a Chicago kicks the extra points set

1071
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 3: of going for two, I'm like, look at Ben Johnson,

1072
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 3: he's just taking the easier press conference yep, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1073
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm thinking when I want to watch a football game,

1074
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: since we've been doing this on these recaps, it's the

1075
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 1: first fifteen plays on both teams in the first quarter,

1076
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: It's the last two minutes of the half. It's the

1077
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: first fifteen plays in the second half, and the last

1078
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: four minutes of the game that are the most exciting

1079
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: for me to watch. Yeah, Like, there could be multiple

1080
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: touchdowns going back and forth, but like, when it comes

1081
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: down to your players have given. This is the proct

1082
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: players have given you. Now as a coach, it's your

1083
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: job to put them in the most advantageous spot to

1084
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: be successful at the end of game, and watching how

1085
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: different coaches make different decisions, that if this team had

1086
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: that coach, they would be more successful than the other

1087
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: way around. Because I've said this before in the bus,

1088
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: Like as a player, I didn't always look at the

1089
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: coaching staf and be like, oh, we have great coaches.

1090
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: That puts us in good position. I just thought we

1091
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: have good players that we don't have good players. We're

1092
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: going to figure out the game and it's all on us. Yeah, truly,

1093
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: it's like these very little, these pockets in the game

1094
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: that great coaching elevates your team to a whole new

1095
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: level because then it breeds momentum.

1096
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: And Greg's right too, like fans are in it. They're involved,

1097
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: They're they're kind of watching and go through what are

1098
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 3: you what are you laughing at it?

1099
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: That brings that was.

1100
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: With the fan part being involved and everything else. It's

1101
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 3: like I didn't know Greg was coming on today, but

1102
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 3: I saw whenever I jumped on Twitter, I saw somebody

1103
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: at me and I can't wait to hear. Uh you

1104
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 3: guys talk about the fourth quarter of the Patriots game,

1105
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 3: and here Greg's takes on everything else. So since my

1106
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: brain was thinking that Greg was gonna come home like sad,

1107
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 3: like sad, we don't get to talk about the situation.

1108
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 2: Why did you not think I was coming on?

1109
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 3: By the way, I don't know why I thought that.

1110
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 3: I think Clump might have said that you were possibly

1111
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 3: not going to be on today. So I have no clue.

1112
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 3: I just again I heard here.

1113
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: Now, So what do you want to talk What situation

1114
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: did they want to talk about?

1115
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: Because the fourth quarter of the Patriots Portriots game, Patrid's

1116
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: Ravens is like, I think they handled it exactly the

1117
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 1: way you would say you should handle it.

1118
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: Was there any was there like a significant situation that

1119
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 2: I missed?

1120
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 3: I don't think so, Like maybe it went the way

1121
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 3: it should have went. And that fan is just excited

1122
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 3: to you know, excited that they're seeing the same things

1123
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 3: we are. To your point, Greg, everybody exercises, so they're

1124
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: just you know, they're giddy, like all the boys are

1125
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 3: probably going to talk about the way everything was handled

1126
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: situationally in the fourth quarter, well.

1127
00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: Fourth quarter went touchdown Ravens touchdown. Patriots punt six play

1128
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: punt by the Ravens. What was the down and distance

1129
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 2: when they punted?

1130
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 3: Oh, Greg might have found something. What was the D

1131
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 3: and D?

1132
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 2: No, it was all right. So it was fourth and

1133
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 2: four at midfield.

1134
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: What oh, they're on the fifty yard line.

1135
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: Now they took a You guys probably know that they

1136
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: took a penalty. Mark Andrews false start. Were they were

1137
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: they lined up to try to snap it. I might

1138
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: have been in and out of it.

1139
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: They seem like they were in an ice situation. And

1140
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: then the the nickel came down and kind of did

1141
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 1: one of those but cost the line, and Mark Andrews

1142
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: along with like the right guard like jumped out of there.

1143
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 1: We got him, We got there at.

1144
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: Oh, So it was like we were going to try

1145
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: to and they didn't. They were going to take a

1146
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 2: delay game anyway.

1147
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: Probably, Yeah, it seemed like they were to take delay

1148
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: a game.

1149
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: So I think fourth and four at the time, they

1150
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: were up twenty four to twenty one. Fourth and four

1151
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: at midfield. So let's see. So they punted backup quarterback,

1152
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: backup quarterback. Yeah, they punted and they pinned New England

1153
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: at the eleven and New England went eighty nine yards

1154
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: for a touch.

1155
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: You gotta go in that situation, you go for it.

1156
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: Let them shoot you first or sooner so you have

1157
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: a better opportunity.

1158
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you get the ball back because.

1159
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: Now the Patriots are thinking, all we got to do

1160
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: is get three here, very able to probably not thinking that,

1161
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: but like the old thought process of football is like,

1162
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: we're only down by three, let's.

1163
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 2: Case them a field range at least I can always tie.

1164
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: Don't put the ball on harm's way, don't.

1165
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: Be yep, a little more con Yeah, because I was

1166
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: thinking that when they were on the I believe it

1167
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: was the like the fifty yard line, and they lined

1168
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: up and it was fourth and four. I'm like, I

1169
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: wonder if they're actually and go for it. And then

1170
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: they started doing the hardcounts, all like, okay, they're going

1171
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: to I state the delay game, give their partners some

1172
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: more room to kick it. But I was kind of

1173
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: hoping they would go for it in that situation. It's

1174
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: just so this conversation would have been like was it

1175
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: the right move?

1176
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like it was not the right move

1177
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 3: to kick to punt the ball.

1178
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: And then getting a backup quarterback. It's hard. Listen. I'm

1179
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 2: not saying any of these decisions are easy, and they're

1180
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: hard to stand up there and defend. I just always

1181
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: think in those situations, I would rather be in control

1182
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 2: of the outcome in the game than deferring it to

1183
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: you and my reliance on stopping. I don't know, I

1184
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: just think you have an opportunity there to really change

1185
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: the outcome of the game. Under your terms, you get

1186
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 2: to call the play, you get to decide the formation,

1187
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: you get to decide it's something you've worked on all week,

1188
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 2: all year for multiple years. It's a big moment play

1189
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 2: at top of your play sheet, as opposed to now

1190
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: I punt it to you, and now I'm reacting to

1191
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 2: Drake May I'm on the defensive literally trying to just

1192
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 2: react to a two minute mode, hyper aggressive, four down

1193
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 2: mode against one of the best quarterbacks in football. My

1194
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 2: defense isn't particularly great all season. You're not the Texans,

1195
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 2: you're not Seattle other than Thursday when they weren't that good.

1196
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: But like, I wouldn't say Baltimore's defense has been this

1197
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 2: killer all year. So you're like, oh, we're gonna let

1198
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 2: our defense win the game. Really why.

1199
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if it was the Houston or Seattle or

1200
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: Den sure you're like, okay, yeah, you feel pretty good

1201
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: about putting your boys in that position. But yeah, I

1202
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: like going for it. I'm fully starting to buy into this.

1203
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 3: Fired. We found the situation, Yeah that this was excited

1204
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 3: for us to talk about.

1205
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: Because this fan meant chirped us on or not chirped us.

1206
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: But was it seems yeah about it, that's what you want? Greg, Uh,

1207
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: this is probably a I don't know if you really

1208
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: want to answer this question. Like for us with the boys,

1209
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 1: I don't know. I hate putting in these positions. What's

1210
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: your favorite Christmas movie?

1211
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 2: Oh? Wow, Home Alone?

1212
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: The original, fantastic movie. My kids are all about it.

1213
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 3: We just watched too over the weekend.

1214
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 2: Oh Home Alone, I love elf. Yeah, I know that

1215
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 2: doesn't have like the nostalgia of like some of those

1216
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 2: like classics, you know, Christmas Vacation, Jemy that that's an

1217
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 2: all timer. Yeah yeah, Home Alone though, like that was

1218
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 2: my childhood. That was the Christmas movie we watched a

1219
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: thousand times. That the old man neighbor who's so scary

1220
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: and then he turns out to be like this loving

1221
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: man like that was a that was that was just

1222
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: like my childhood, Like you can't get enough of that.

1223
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: What's interesting to me watching that movie now having kids

1224
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: that are old enough to like watch consume, they're not

1225
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: just involved with like cartoons, Like they're kind of going

1226
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: through that transformation right now. We're watching Home Alone a

1227
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: couple of days ago, and I'm always over the conversation

1228
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: with my kids, like, hey, if you're in a situation,

1229
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: you're in public and someone's like come with me, and

1230
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: you say no, you scream as as you can. And

1231
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: my oldest is kind of like, Dad, this kid handled business. Yeah,

1232
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: And I had to basically sit them down and be like,

1233
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: that's a movie. You know what happens to that kid?

1234
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: If he tries to pull half of those things, he's

1235
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: he's unalived. At the end of that movie, that's what

1236
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: takes place because my kids are legit thinking if we

1237
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: just put some marbles down and tie tie some bancands

1238
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: with some string, we're gonna fuck some bandits up. And

1239
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: it's like, guys, no shot, They're gonna go like this,

1240
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: oh and you're done and you're done.

1241
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: So the plot of that movie magical. Every kid maybe

1242
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 2: a little unrealistic. Yeah, maybe call home. It was not

1243
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: eighteen fifty. We were not like using the pony express,

1244
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: like simple call to the landline. How you doing? Uh

1245
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: calling neighbor? Can you walk down the street? Like apparently

1246
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: that entire block was just abandoned by people. Everyone on

1247
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 2: that shore town everyone left.

1248
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: Uh, And the kid just doesn't call nine on one

1249
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: to like the very end when he's finally got his

1250
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: devious planel set up.

1251
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 3: It's hilarious. Did you see the s and they'll skit

1252
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 3: on home alone?

1253
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: I think so. I think it was kind of what

1254
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: I was just doing, right.

1255
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1256
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: Well they're walking in the room like, hey, watch out,

1257
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: there's some marbles on the ground right there, and like.

1258
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 3: Like no, no, no, no, no. They did it to where

1259
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:18,919
Speaker 3: everybody's basically dying from you know, the the uh oh yeah.

1260
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: The family comes home and they're like, oh my gosh,

1261
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 3: you're here, and he's like, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna

1262
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 3: go in the room and get something. Some just fire

1263
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 3: sprays the top his head, likes his entire head on fire,

1264
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 3: and he's screaming, and then it, uh, it sets off

1265
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 3: this domino effect to everything that happens everybody's essentially dying

1266
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 3: from all the booby traps that were laying around. Yeah,

1267
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 3: but it's it's hilarious. You should check it out, dude.

1268
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: Okay, first, only if I could put you on a

1269
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: little bit of game for you and your wife. Two

1270
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: movies that I would suggest is a family Stone tear jerker,

1271
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: and then another one is Spirited with Ryan Reynolds and

1272
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: Will Ferrell.

1273
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 3: That's a good newer one.

1274
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: It's a good newer one. I'm telling you. Christmas Chronicles,

1275
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: it's more like a more It's definitely an adult holiday.

1276
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 3: Movie like Christmas Chronicles.

1277
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: Love it.

1278
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: What the hell's Christmas Chronicles?

1279
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 3: Check it out. It's on that flip all right, all right,

1280
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 3: all right.

1281
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: Kids used to watch Christmas Chronicles when they were kids.

1282
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: Last thing I'll say it, and they're still kids, they

1283
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 2: were younger kids.

1284
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: Last thing I'll say about home alone. When Kevin's mom

1285
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: finally comes home and she looks from and she walks in,

1286
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: she goes, Merry Christmas, Kevin, and they have a hug,

1287
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: and then the rest of the family walks in and

1288
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: like pretty cool, you made it. And they all just

1289
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: go in the other room and Kevin walks to the

1290
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: window and looks at it, the old man who's hugging,

1291
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: and it's like, this kid's been home alone for three

1292
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: days and you've been you've been raking yourself over the

1293
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: coals and being a terrible mother, and all you can

1294
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: say to him is Merry Christmas, Kevin and then walk

1295
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: in the other room to do whatever. Terrible pandemic and

1296
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: didn't Dad the whole time is like, he'll be all right.

1297
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: It's just fucking wild to me, the way.

1298
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 3: The dad handles it's so good.

1299
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: I have the Chiefs just completely packed it in, like

1300
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 1: you don't make the playoffs, and it's just.

1301
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 3: I think Patrick mahomesseys to be in the MVP conversation

1302
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 3: still still because you should. They are such a dog

1303
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 3: shit team without Patrick Mahomes.

1304
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: Did you see all the players that didn't play? No,

1305
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: it was just fifteen. I was hoping this score would

1306
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: end two to nothing. So I was hoping the same thing.

1307
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 2: But sad again, it's the reality of this thing. Man,

1308
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: It comes for everyone. It's just some people get to

1309
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 2: last a little bit longer. Yeah, team, you know, team wise,

1310
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 2: obviously Mahomes will be back, He'll be fine, But like

1311
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 2: that thing's going to look a little bit different going forward,

1312
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 2: and maybe that's a good thing. Maybe this is what

1313
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 2: they needed to say. You know what, We've stretched this

1314
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 2: probably longer than any of us imagined. We've been thrown

1315
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: into the garbage a hundred times. We thought we were dead.

1316
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 2: We rebranded with this young defense, kickstarted it a couple

1317
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 2: of years ago, won the Super Bowl, got back to

1318
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 2: another Super Bowl, and maybe we just need to reset

1319
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 2: and start all over again. And there's nothing wrong with that.

1320
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: It's just sad. They were probably watching the last of

1321
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey lose to the Titans. Would is like, hey

1322
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: shot the Titan, that's great, but it was just watching

1323
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: as huge jakeson.

1324
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 3: Greg probably knows. No, this tighten you, brother, that's tight

1325
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 3: in you family, brotherhood man.

1326
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: Thick, Yeah, yeah, Thick. We only have five minutes left.

1327
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: Is there anything Greg that you want to talk about?

1328
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 3: Who do you got in the m v P race

1329
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 3: right now?

1330
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 2: Oh? Love that? Right now? I think it's too I

1331
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 2: think it's Stafford and Drake May agreed.

1332
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 3: Who do you have as the front runner currently? Drake? Drake?

1333
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: If the season ended right now, God, if you had

1334
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 2: asked me two weeks ago, I would have said Stafford, right,

1335
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: I mean it's Stafford the reason they lost that. I

1336
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: don't like punishing guys for like, oh they lost to Seattle,

1337
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: and you become like a creature of you become like

1338
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 2: a creature of the moment. I still think I'm gonna

1339
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: give it to Stafford. I'm probably not as strong in

1340
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 2: that opinion as I was two three weeks ago. I

1341
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 2: think what Drake May is doing on a team that

1342
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 2: preseason had very little expectations, won how many games last year?

1343
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 2: Four new coach bottom of the barrel for them to

1344
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 2: not only be better, for not only them to be good,

1345
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: but them to be like potential top seed one or

1346
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 2: two seed good and be and do that as a

1347
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 2: young quarterback in this league where we see young guys struggle. Man,

1348
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 2: He's I can make an argument for both. If I

1349
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 2: had to vote, I'd vote for Stafford.

1350
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. I do think it's it's Razor thing close because again,

1351
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 3: with Drake May, it's not like he's got Puk DeVante Adams.

1352
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a bunch of Yeah.

1353
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I can make a great case. So why

1354
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: I would vote for Drake And he's a Charlotte kidd.

1355
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 2: I've known him for a long time. I mean, he's

1356
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: he's special in all categories and just.

1357
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 3: To be that see being your two and just observing

1358
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 3: and watching, he seems completely unfazed in the moments that

1359
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: he gets in, whether it's hey, they're down, you know,

1360
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 3: down eleven, like just his ability, his poison everything else.

1361
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 3: Only being uh, second year in the league, I feel

1362
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 3: like it's just super impressive.

1363
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 2: Here's a fun exercise. Redraft last year's first round quarterbacks.

1364
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 3: Okay, give me, give me because you got what you got.

1365
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 2: Drake May you got you got Drake, You've got Caleb Williams,

1366
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 2: you got Jane Daniels, you got bow Knicks JJ McCarthy.

1367
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, Drake's sitting there one right, totally completely.

1368
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 2: I think is the most fascinating part.

1369
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 3: If I'm sitting there and I'm drafting, they're all, they're all,

1370
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 3: they're all on a bench, I.

1371
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: Think tough because it's really between bow Knicks Caleb Williams,

1372
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 1: those are the two.

1373
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 3: One day.

1374
01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 2: Daniels was the player.

1375
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: Injuries injuries, injuries, I know, I know.

1376
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 2: But you're drafting for the next ten.

1377
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: Years, right right exactly, and so are you gonna take

1378
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: the guy with the higher ceiling, which I think we

1379
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: can agree with Caleb Williams, or take the ultimate pro

1380
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: and maybe a higher floor than bow Knicks. That's kind

1381
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: of how I'm looking at this.

1382
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 2: So you would take both bon Knicks and Caleb over

1383
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 2: Jane Daniels.

1384
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: You're talking about the next ten years.

1385
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's your franchise quarterback. Yeah. I think what hurt

1386
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 2: because if I would have if we would have done

1387
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 2: this at the end of last season, Jane Daniels I

1388
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: think would have been the unanimous number one.

1389
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 3: Agreed, agreed.

1390
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: The thing is his injuries, and here's about the next

1391
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: ten years, and it's like it's too eerily similar to

1392
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: me from an RG three standpoint, or a great first

1393
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: year than the second year. It kind of it all

1394
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: fell apart. And if we're talking about ten years longevity, well,

1395
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: I see in by the sample size of fifty, like

1396
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: it's been fifty percent of your career has been injured. Basically,

1397
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: it's not your fault and everything can change. But because

1398
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: of those reasons, I have to go with the safer

1399
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: route and go to bow Nix with Caleb Williams who

1400
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: have stayed healthy.

1401
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 3: I I was listening to Matt Ryan kind of talk

1402
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 3: about quarterback development, and he was talking like, you know,

1403
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 3: for in the first year, like if you were like

1404
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 3: you strike lightning in the bottle, Like as a quarterback

1405
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 3: going into your second year, you're kind of just trying

1406
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 3: to keep your head above water in the first year,

1407
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 3: and then in the second year, like if you have

1408
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 3: some success, you could get trapped into Hey, I think

1409
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 3: I know what's going on more out there, so you

1410
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 3: could play a little over your skis, which I feel

1411
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 3: like Jane Daniels could be the case in your two

1412
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 3: outside of the injury stuff. He's like not until like

1413
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 3: you know, the third even for really the fourth year

1414
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 3: is when you feel like you're seeing the field, You're

1415
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 3: seeing the game from all angles that the coaches want

1416
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 3: you to see it at. And if I'm looking at

1417
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 3: all these quarterbacks right now, I feel like I see

1418
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 3: that go against Jane Daniels for how he kind of

1419
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 3: developed in the second year when he was on the field,

1420
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 3: and I feel like the lights starting to click for

1421
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams to where if you're looking at a ten

1422
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 3: year quarterback like dude, he I feel like he's so close.

1423
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 3: So you could talk about his inaccuracies, but the way

1424
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 3: he continues to sling the rock even when he has

1425
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 3: a couple bad moments, the way he moves around and

1426
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 3: have it being paired with Ben Johnson, I feel like

1427
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 3: he's so close to like breaking through and being like

1428
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 3: that elite quarterback were on why he was drafted first overall. Yeah,

1429
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 3: Drake May, I feel like has that again the game's

1430
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 3: kind of slowing down for him and even bow knicks again,

1431
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 3: higher floor everything else. But if I'm chasing that higher

1432
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 3: ceiling of the quarterbacks were kind of picking from to me,

1433
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 3: go one Drake May, two Caleb Williams than three bow Knicks.

1434
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could flip two and three at any point.

1435
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 3: But Ryan had a great breakdown, not like talking about

1436
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 3: if you're redrafting, but just a great breakdown of like

1437
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 3: quarterback progression and development over the years and when he

1438
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 3: felt most confident being on the field that he alluded

1439
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,439
Speaker 3: to it being year five for him.

1440
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can make an argument when everything you just said, well,

1441
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 2: I can make the same argument happens the teams that

1442
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 2: have a quick turnaround. Right you look at Washington, low expectations,

1443
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 2: you hadn't been good in years, New ownership, You get

1444
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 2: DQ dan Quinn, you draft Jayden, he's the offensive player

1445
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: that you're a game away from the super Bowl. Oh

1446
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 2: my god, we are ready to compete. Do you always

1447
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 2: get a good, real honest perspective? Did you win some

1448
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 2: games you shouldn't have? Was your record better than what

1449
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 2: you really are? Right? That goes both directions. Some years

1450
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 2: your record you're actually better than your record. Some years

1451
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 2: you're not as good as your record. Right, So there's

1452
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 2: a lot of I think it's thrown off. A lot

1453
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 2: of teams rebuild when they have early success and then

1454
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 2: all of a sudden in year two they get exposed.

1455
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 2: So I think everything you just said about quarterbacks, you

1456
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 2: can make the same argument of just overall teams six

1457
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 2: that you think of the Giants first year day ball,

1458
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 2: they go to the playoffs, they beat what they beat

1459
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: Minnesota in Minnesota, huge upset, Coach of the year. Now

1460
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones is getting paid, Saquon wants to get paid

1461
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 2: these and all of a sudden, did you push back

1462
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 2: your rebuild? And if you would have went seven and

1463
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 2: nine and didn't make now I guess seven and ten

1464
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,839
Speaker 2: and you didn't make the playoffs, did you have handled

1465
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 2: drafts different, would you have handled free agency different? Would

1466
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: you have handled extensions different? But all of a sudden

1467
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 2: you feel like, oh my god, we're in win now mode.

1468
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: You double down on some guys and it doesn't work.

1469
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 2: You just push that rebuild off. So it's a pretty

1470
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 2: fascinating exercise about early success in a turnaround.

1471
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, when it's like, did we actually realize that we

1472
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 3: were just fortunately keeping our head above water throughout the year?

1473
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 3: Now we think we're getting a little too confident in

1474
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 3: what the reality of the situation is, right, Yeah.

1475
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,759
Speaker 2: It's interesting. I think I would go Drake May for sure.

1476
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 2: I think i'd go Caleb two, Jaden three, bo Nix.

1477
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:43,600
Speaker 3: Fascinating.

1478
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: I don't hate that. The only thing that takes me

1479
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: away from Jayden at this point is the injuries.

1480
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: And the injuries are real. I do think a change

1481
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 2: in offensive plan. I'm not saying Kingsbury goes. I'd like

1482
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 2: Kingsbury a lot. I do think there can be a

1483
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 2: little bit of an evolution into what they're asking Jayden

1484
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 2: to do. They started doing it with Mariota, granted, different

1485
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 2: stages of careers and whatnot, but they were starting to

1486
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 2: do it a little bit better. I actually think that

1487
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 2: would have served Jane a little bit better. Play action,

1488
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 2: boot game, under center, run game, not being in the

1489
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 2: gun on every snap more early throw reads the thing

1490
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 2: about Jayden that's so impressive last year, and then in

1491
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 2: his small sample size this year, he is incredibly accurate

1492
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 2: down the field. His downfield passing game, he is exceptional

1493
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 2: in those moments, and exceptional end of game fourth quarter

1494
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 2: last year, best passer rating the fourth quarter, best completion percentages,

1495
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 2: I mean everything about end of game last year he

1496
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 2: was unreal. Hence why they won so many close games.

1497
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 2: I still think I would take Jayden as of right now,

1498
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 2: but you could probably make an argument for me to

1499
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 2: at least consider flipping him in bow Knicks. But I

1500
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 2: love Caleb In Ben Johnson's system. It's not always going

1501
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 2: to be perfect, it's not always going to be in

1502
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: rhythm and time, but that dude is uniquely talented.

1503
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 1: Could you imagine when Caleb Williams actually has like all

1504
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: his you know, techniques and everything figured out, and he's

1505
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: throwing above sixty percent completion percentage, like they're going to

1506
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: be incredible On offense, His is elusivity, able to move around,

1507
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: get out of danger, Like I have not seen a

1508
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: quarterback that able to get out of elusiveness, that elusive

1509
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: to get out and make plays down field. It's just

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01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 1: it's much so impressive. What's that?

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01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 2: I don't like chasing completion percentage?

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01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: Huh?

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01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 2: Personally, I don't like chasing.

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01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that.

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01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: I think it's completion percentage is one thing, but it's

1516
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: another thing when it's multiple games like he's done it.

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01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: He's done it nine times this season and they're eight

1518
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: and one. He was over sixty percent in this past game,

1519
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, if you're eight and one when

1520
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: your quarterback's not that productive from getting the ball down

1521
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 1: field and you just bumped that that number up a

1522
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: little bit, like, dude, it's going to be impressive. And

1523
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: it's just I think it's.

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01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 2: I think there's like at some point, like a a

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01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 2: like a cross section between like average depth of targets

1526
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,799
Speaker 2: and completion percentage, right, because I can make an argument

1527
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 2: like there's guys that have been seventy five eighty percent

1528
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,799
Speaker 2: completion percentage average depth of targets like three yards, correct,

1529
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 2: that doesn't do a whole lot for me. I just

1530
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 2: think of today's modern NFL. You your margin for error

1531
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 2: is so small. You have to be incredible on third downs,

1532
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 2: don't turn the ball over, incredible in the red zone,

1533
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 2: like you just can't. You don't have anything. You can't

1534
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 2: make any mistakes because you just can't get any yards

1535
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 2: and chunks. But then I think there's also on the

1536
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 2: other side where your completion percentage is just so bad

1537
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 2: that regardless of how far short you're throwing it, your

1538
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 2: efficiency is just so low. You also can't overcome that.

1539
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 2: So I do think there's like this X Y axis

1540
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,759
Speaker 2: where they eventually like cross each other and you say, okay,

1541
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 2: that's the dream, Like you are throwing it downfield, so

1542
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 2: we are getting that explosiveness, but there is some element

1543
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 2: of a and see that we can count on playing

1544
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 2: and play out. We're not just like hoping in prayer

1545
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 2: and well maybe it's gonna work, but in between that

1546
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 2: it's a disaster. You don't want that.

1547
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 3: Either, No, I agree, not not as much in like

1548
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 3: the completion percentage over overall, Like on PFF, you can

1549
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 3: go into and see like inaccurate throws like outside of

1550
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 3: the frame, this that the other which is always like

1551
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 3: fascinating to see all these little new details and wrinkles

1552
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 3: that they have in the whole database and analytics part

1553
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 3: of the game on PF. But I'm with you. I

1554
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 3: think completion rate is hard now if it's really good.

1555
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 3: And again it's like Drake May, he'll have a completion rate.

1556
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 3: He's been throwing it around seventy percent in his like

1557
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 3: yards per attempt is like what over eight?

1558
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1559
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, super, he's unique. He's unique because he's doing well. Yeah,

1560
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 2: here's the last thing I'll sam Caleb. Not to beat

1561
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 2: a dead horse here, but his inaccuracies sometimes throwing on

1562
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: the run, right, those are high level, highly difficult throws.

1563
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 2: How many pass attempts This would be a fun study.

1564
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: How many pass attempts has he gotten off that were

1565
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 2: deemed inaccurate but they came after he avoided a sack.

1566
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 2: So he avoids a sack, runs around and he misses

1567
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 2: the guy. He misses DJ Moore in the back of

1568
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 2: the side, you know, the corner of the end zone

1569
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 2: sideline that goes down as a pass attempt incomplete pass

1570
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: off target onto the next down. Yeah, but what if

1571
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 2: he instead of being oh for one with with an

1572
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 2: inaccurate pass he was oh for oh, because he got sacked,

1573
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 2: his completion percentage would be better. And he's doing that

1574
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: at such a high volume of snaps. His ability to

1575
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:36,679
Speaker 2: escape pressure is incredible. Yeah, So if he tipped more

1576
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 2: sacks and got less inaccurate throws off on the run,

1577
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 2: hypothetically his completion percentage would go up. The offensive success

1578
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 2: would go down because he's taking sacks, and would that

1579
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 2: be better.

1580
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right. That's a good point. That's why

1581
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 1: you're on the show, Greg.

1582
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 2: There's always a balance to all of this stuff, right,

1583
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 2: Like I always say about turnovers, Like the ideal turnover

1584
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 2: number is not zero, Right, I could take a knee

1585
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 2: and go for sixty five knees in a row, and

1586
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 2: we didn't turn the ball over, we didn't take any sacks.

1587
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 2: So like there's a little bit of nuance. Again. I

1588
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 2: don't want a team whose goal is to get to

1589
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 2: get commit zero turnovers. I don't want to fumble, but

1590
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 2: I don't want my quarterback to fear throwing interceptions.

1591
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you're probably not going to be that very good.

1592
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to throw four, but I certainly don't

1593
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 2: want to throw if the goal is to throw zero.

1594
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 2: That would scare me a little bit.

1595
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, being too risk averse. I know that we

1596
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: got we had a boogey.

1597
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, we got a boggy.

1598
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 2: Great.

1599
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate you by that. We'll see christ week. We'll

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01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: see you next week.

1601
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 3: Merry Christmas, best friend, Merry Christmas.

1602
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 1: Voice, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas. He didn't say what was

1603
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: he ain't come back next week?

1604
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 3: Back?

1605
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,839
Speaker 1: That's okay, that's okay. We'll need every button next week.

1606
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna grab some nicoteae.

1607
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I need a peepe Okay, guys, thank you

1608
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 3: for tuning in.

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01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: Quick oh sorry one.

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01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can wear this the yeah, the NFL recap

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01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 3: stuff we can. We can uh, we can sign off on.

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01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 3: Busting with the Boys comes out tomorrow. Ty Simpson, the

1613
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 3: quarterback of Alabama, he joins the show. We also have

1614
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 3: the locker room, Josh Payton. We're talking all things college football.

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