1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. We're on the radio from one 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: until four, and then after four o'clock John and can 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 2: on demand the podcast and you could listen to what 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 2: you missed. 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: We've had a lot of good stuff today and yeah, 8 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: a lot. 9 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 3: Of it concerning the border. 10 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 4: So listen back for that, because I think people are 11 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 4: beginning to wake up. But it's really out of control. 12 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 4: And even that bald headed idiot may Orcus has decided 13 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 4: to build some fence. 14 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: How about that twenty miles And. 15 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: While Biden says that walls don't work, Mayorcus says they 16 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: do and they need it, so. 17 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 4: Gues to getting pressure from their own party. Now right, 18 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 4: the mayors or the governors are all waking up and saying, hey, 19 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 4: come on. 20 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 2: His approval rating on immigration, Biden's is about twenty three 21 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: percent of the polls. 22 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: Well, then people are aware. 23 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, big news this afternoon from the world of lecherous people. 24 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: Doctor George Tyndall, who was the long time USC campus gynecologist, 25 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 4: who of course faced charges of sexual he softened the 26 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 4: sexual misconduct. I hate that word misconduct. 27 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: Sexual assess it's like you behaved. 28 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 4: You misbehaved in class. Terrible things he did to these 29 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 4: women at the university and for a long time he 30 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 4: was there, but you know, he didn't spend much time 31 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 4: in prison. 32 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: The update today is he's dead. 33 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 4: A criminal trial was set for next year, but he 34 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 4: was found dead in his home at the age of 35 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 4: seventy six. Let's bring on John Manley, Manley, Stuart Fronaldi 36 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 4: and of course they have represented many victims of sex 37 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 4: abuse over the years, including a number of women who 38 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 4: got to apparently is sexually abused by this doctor at usc. 39 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: John, welcome again to the show. Hey guys, are George 40 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: Tindall was there twenty seven years. The La Times does 41 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: an investigation in twenty eighteen identifying an enormous number of 42 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: women who were sexually assaulted by It's almost twenty twenty 43 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: four and he still he never faced a criminal trial. 44 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: What went on the last nearly six years? 45 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 5: Ironically, the day the Larry Nasser Michigan State, USA Gymnastics 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 5: State settled as the day that that time story broke, 47 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 5: and the NASA case is an interesting comparison. Nasser was charged, 48 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 5: convicted in federal court and convicted in state court in 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 5: a year doctor Heaps at ucla very similar situation. Hundreds 50 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 5: of women victimized under the guys of medical care tried 51 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 5: and convicted after George Tyndall. We do these cases all 52 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 5: over the country. This is unheard of. So it's important 53 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 5: to understand that USC knew about him very early on, 54 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 5: but they suspended him in twenty sixteen, didn't inform law enforcement, 55 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 5: and it took the DA's office from and this includes 56 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 5: both our friend George Gascone Lazy and Jackie Lacy till 57 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 5: twenty nineteen to indict him, even though you know, there 58 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 5: were hundreds and hundreds of women coming forward and they 59 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 5: had evidence that he was taking picture he was Most 60 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 5: of these girls were young women, were students at USC. 61 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 5: They went to him for contraception and instead of he 62 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 5: was doing unnecessary public exams, but he was photographing them 63 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 5: completely naked, focusing on their genitals, keeping the photos and 64 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 5: I'll spare your audience the nasty details that he was 65 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 5: engaged in. It was horrific and SC paid almost a 66 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 5: billion dollars to settle the cases. They covered it up. 67 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 5: Jackie Lacy, in my view, slow walked it. Jackie. Miss 68 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 5: Lacey's very close to USC, was sworn in there and 69 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 5: then you know, he was allowed to just languish. The 70 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 5: worst part is he wasn't in custody. He was a 71 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 5: suicide risk from the beginning. I don't know if he 72 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 5: committed suicide or we don't know. And by the way, 73 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 5: LAPD has announced that they're not doing an autopsy, and 74 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 5: I've just written a letter to the Board of Supervisors 75 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 5: demanding that an autopsy be done. And maybe he died 76 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 5: in natural causes, but you can't just walk up to 77 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 5: a body and say natural causes, you're good to go. 78 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 5: Did he kill himself? And if he did, and I 79 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 5: don't know that he did, and I'm not saying he did, 80 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 5: but that would be pretty embarrassing the law enforcement. But 81 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 5: this is a failure of our whole system, and it 82 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 5: you know, what message does this send to other George 83 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 5: Tindall's out there, and we know they're out there. The 84 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 5: message it sends is, hey, get a good lawyer, get 85 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 5: a powerful institution that doesn't want you to testify, because 86 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 5: the last thing USC wanted is a George Tindall trial. 87 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 5: And it doesn't matter how many young women you've specially assaulted. 88 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 5: Doesn't matter what you've done, that the horrible crimes you're 89 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 5: committed a you're not going to jail. You can sit 90 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 5: in your luxury condo and hang out for five years 91 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 5: and then if you get held over for trial, which 92 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 5: happened last month. He finally got bound over for trial 93 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 5: after you know, since twenty sixteen, and now he gets 94 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 5: to you know, he escapes justice. 95 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: And paid out of us. He paid out over a 96 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 3: billion dollars for this case. 97 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 5: A billion dollars and paid him almost two hundred thousand 98 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 5: to keep quiet. They paid him to go away because 99 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 5: they didn't want the scandal to come forward. 100 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: And so all the public officials in LA went along 101 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: with this. Yeah, including the last two das, Jackie Lacy 102 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 2: and George Gascon decided jes to stand down and let 103 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: time pass. 104 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. 105 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 2: When I heard when I came into the station and 106 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: they tell me George Tindall died, I immediately thought it, Well, 107 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: he died in prison. I'd forgot and he was never 108 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: prosecuted because it's been so many years. 109 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 5: He's been he's been under indictments and under investigation since 110 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 5: twenty eighteen. Indicted in twenty nineteen, and you know he 111 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 5: just continued, dit continue, kid, and the courts, the judges, 112 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 5: the DA's office, And I'm not talking about the line 113 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 5: DA's I'm talking about the DA himself. They let it 114 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 5: go on. And I frankly believe I'm not I'm not 115 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 5: a conspiracy theorist. No one except the victims wanted this 116 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 5: trial to go forward. It was going to be embarrassing 117 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 5: to USC because God knows what secrets he helped. He 118 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 5: was a drueling ghoul. I deposed him. He's a horrible witness. 119 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 5: He talked to the guy in two minutes. You know, 120 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 5: he's a bad guy. And they were going to these 121 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 5: these witnesses, the victims, we're going to get up and 122 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 5: talk about what happened. 123 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: Well, it also implicates and we've we've talked many times 124 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: about this phenomena. Probably many many administrators and officials at 125 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: USC who knew about this because of all the complaints 126 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: that had piled up over the years. 127 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 5: Well they did know. I mean, we proved they knew, 128 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 5: which is why they settled the case. You know, we 129 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 5: were on the on the eve of we're close to trial. 130 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 5: We deposed dozens and dozens of people at the health center. 131 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 5: They knew, they knew what he was, they knew what 132 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,119 Speaker 5: he was doing, and they did nothing. They found naked 133 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 5: pictures of his patients, they didn't call the police. They 134 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 5: let him retire essentially and paid him money to go away. 135 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 5: And now he's escaped justice and he got away with it. 136 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 5: He did. And I fear, I really, you know, we 137 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 5: are we Is it really that corrupt? Does sc really 138 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 5: have that much power over law enforcement? Or are we 139 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 5: all just going to let it, let people like this 140 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 5: use women as sexual play toys. They're supposed to be 141 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 5: going there for medical treatment, and then we're going to 142 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 5: do nothing because that's what happened. 143 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: I think the answer all your questions is yes, that's 144 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: exactly the world we live in Los Angeles, USA does 145 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: have that power, and everyone in government and in law 146 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: enforcement defers to them. And all these girls suffered, and 147 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: nobody who could do anything cared. 148 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're left holding the bag. And you know, 149 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 5: I just I don't if you were involved in this 150 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 5: case and you let this happen, I don't know how 151 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 5: you look yourself in the eye where you look yourself 152 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 5: in the mirror, because you're vile. In my opinion, you're 153 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 5: a despicable person, and you you let down the people 154 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 5: you're supposed to protect. 155 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: Did you have a chance to talk to any of 156 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: the victims. 157 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's it's awful. I mean they you know, imagine, 158 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 5: you know, like one of my clients had to go 159 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 5: testify last month, had pictures of her naked body when 160 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 5: she was in her early twenties shown to the court 161 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 5: for everybody to see. Had to get up and talk 162 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 5: about what he did do no gloves, doing vaginal exams 163 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 5: and putting finger you know, ungloved hands and orifices and 164 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 5: going through that humiliation because you want him off the street. 165 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 5: And you know, when the judge holds him over for 166 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 5: trial and then he dies, that is direct that is 167 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 5: the direct responsibility of those in charge of protecting us. 168 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 5: And I got to tell you, I hope that people 169 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 5: in La rise up. And you know, you see it, 170 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 5: and you see it in the robberies and stories. You 171 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 5: see it everywhere. Things are out of control, and we 172 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 5: got to change it. The people in charge of got 173 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 5: to change. They need to go out, they need to 174 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 5: beat the boat, the bums out and George Kats gun's 175 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 5: a bum in my opinion. 176 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: Well, we don't disagree. 177 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 4: John, Always good to talk to you and the great 178 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 4: work that your firm does for these victims. A tough 179 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 4: day and that they didn't get justice in the courts 180 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 4: over George Tindall. 181 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 5: But thanks for talking to us, Thanks for focus on 182 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 5: Thanks for focused on it. I always appreciate it. 183 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 4: Take care, John Manley, Manly Stewart, Finaldi And of course 184 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: they have represented thousands and thousands of victims of sex abuse, schools, 185 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 4: the church, and of course now this run of gynecologists 186 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 4: USC and UCLA. And in the news today that the 187 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 4: USC kind of cologist who was facing criminal charges, no 188 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: trial yet it was supposed to be next year, was 189 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 4: found dead in his home. Johnny Ken kf I AM 190 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 4: six forty Live Everywhere iHeartRadio app. 191 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 192 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 193 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 4: Well, we just got this goodpool news and one person 194 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 4: picked Dick Butkus to pass away in twenty twenty three, 195 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 4: the man that was known as NFL Toughness, Chicago Bears 196 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 4: linebacker Dick Butkus. One person thought of him for Googlepool 197 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. It's eighty one right, eighty it is 198 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 4: eighty years old. 199 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: Wow. 200 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: Now he was one of the most famous defensive NFL 201 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: players and the great name Butckers but gus right, yeah, 202 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: kiss my butt. How could he not be a tough 203 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: football player? 204 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: He just had that face that said, I'm gonna knock 205 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: you like pollets. 206 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: Aren't named Dick Butckers, No not, that's art majors, Art majors. 207 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 5: Right. 208 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: You ever run into a Dick buckets and an art class. 209 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 4: We got a little more information on story we talked 210 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 4: about yesterday from the Elsigonda Times, that horror airbnb rental 211 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 4: in Brentwood where that poor guy rented out a guesthouse 212 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 4: or an adu as they call it now on his 213 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 4: property to a woman by the name of Elizabeth Hirshorn 214 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 4: and couldn't get rid of her. He got a long 215 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 4: term deal out of her, but he ran into problems 216 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 4: because she's crazy, first of all, and second of all, 217 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: the city of La determined that it was that it 218 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 4: didn't meet code as a rental, so that led him 219 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: on a dead road for trying to get his money 220 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 4: and then trying to get this woman out. 221 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: No money. She's still there and can of Victor. 222 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 4: We now learn she's a Harvard graduate who apparently, and 223 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 4: you may have guessed this, has done this before. Well, 224 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 4: apparently a rental in Oakland. She did the same thing 225 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 4: where she wouldn't leave. I guess she did eventually leave. 226 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 5: But. 227 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 4: The Daily Mail is under earthed more details about her, 228 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 4: which include this story that she would not move out 229 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: of the property, she would not pay her rent and 230 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 4: eventually they did the same thing. They moved out and 231 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 4: just left her there. But she moved on to Brentwood. 232 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 4: This was around September of twenty nineteen. She sub led 233 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 4: a room in a two point six million dollar cottage 234 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 4: and then refused to move out even after the original 235 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 4: tenant left to her behavior. She's fifty five years old, 236 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 4: she's attractive, got long grad thin. I mean, I usually 237 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 4: these people are weird trolls, right, I mean she looks 238 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 4: like she could be, you know, a business woman, right 239 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 4: or a Brentwood Mommy. Half the women in Brentwood look 240 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 4: like she does. 241 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: That's weird. 242 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she's just a professional rifter. 243 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: I guess that's how she's being described. The place she's 244 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: in now is this poor guy in Brentwood, Sasha Jovanovitch, 245 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 4: sixty one, a periodontist, apparently was building his dream home 246 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 4: and then he decided to get a little money on 247 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: the side by renting out his guest house. And she's 248 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 4: been the tenant for a long time, but she hasn't paid, 249 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 4: and the latest is she wants one hundred thousand dollars 250 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: to move out. I don't feel safe being forced to vacate. 251 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 4: I have a housing disability. What is a housing disability? 252 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: This is like she's she's intelligent and educated, so that 253 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: makes her a force, right, Yeah, because she knows how to. 254 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 2: I don't know if she got educated in law, but. 255 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 4: What she does, she must count her sus She counter 256 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: sued the landlords in Oakland, too, claiming their actions were 257 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 4: harmful to her health. 258 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 3: Whatever she's in California. 259 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 4: Any kind of tenant has protected so much that that's 260 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 4: another reason that she's getting away with this. All of 261 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: the politicians in California believe it. All the tenants are mistreated. 262 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 4: It's all evil landlords out there. Let's write all the 263 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: laws in favor of people or even squatters, right, which 264 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: is really what she is. 265 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: Do you remember that movie? I saw that the movie 266 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: a year before we moved out here as Michael. 267 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: Keaton was in it. 268 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: It was about the tenant he couldn't get out of 269 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: his house in San Francisco, Pacific Heights. 270 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: I think it was called. 271 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: It was called Pacific Hime. 272 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what introduced me to California tenant law before 273 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: I even moved out here. And the whole movie was 274 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: based on a true story, and I remember watching it saying, really, 275 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: people can do this, and you know it's even worse now, 276 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: all these years later. 277 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 4: The Daily Theyl even discovered that she got sued by 278 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 4: American Express over unpaid credit card debt nearly twenty thousand 279 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 4: dollars a couple of years ago. 280 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: And what do you know she countersued. 281 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 282 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: I bet you she's trained in law or something something related. 283 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 284 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 4: It doesn't say if she has any kind of job, 285 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 4: just that she's a Harvard grad. And there's pictures of 286 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 4: her at one of her reunions with her Harvard classmates, 287 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 4: but it doesn't say I guess this is her specialty, 288 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 4: squatting at people's homes and then suing them and then 289 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: demanding money for her to leave. 290 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: She's got the crazy eyes though, she's got the crazy 291 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: bulging eyes. 292 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 4: I know, I know, yeah, yeah, this is really horrible. 293 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 4: I mean, this is the nightmare of bad lottery picks 294 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 4: to end up with a woman like this. You know, 295 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 4: if we went through this story yesterday, it just started 296 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 4: out with her saying, oh, I have a problem with 297 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: the blinds. Electronic blinds don't work. And he gets in 298 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 4: there and he sees all this mold and water damage. 299 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 4: He's like, what the hell's she done to this place? 300 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 4: And he says to her, well, could you stay at 301 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 4: a hotel where I get this fixed? 302 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: She says no, and these these bogus legal sounding phrases 303 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: like I have a housing disability and chemical sensitivity chemical sensitivity. Yeah, no, 304 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: crazy person. But she's pulling it off all these years. 305 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: All right, we'll be for a back pause. 306 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: The al Segundo Times strikes again. 307 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 4: They used the same writer, some guy that writes I 308 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 4: think mostly about politics, to go to another state and 309 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 4: try to prove to us here in California in LA 310 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 4: that drugs has. 311 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: Nothing to do with homelessness. We'll go through the story next. 312 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: You can dismantle this story right at the headline. I 313 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: knew when I read the headline, I said, I know 314 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: exactly what this is about, and I know exactly why 315 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: it's It's bull crap. 316 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 4: Hi Johnny Ken KFI AM six forty Live everywhere. It's 317 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 4: the iHeartRadio app. 318 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 319 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 320 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: In case you missed it, We just spoke to John 321 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: Manley from the law firm that represented many of the 322 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: women who were victims of doctor George Tindall, the usc 323 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: got acologist who sexually assaulted hundreds of women. He died 324 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: and without ever having to go to trial, and so 325 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: a lot of the women are upset with that outcome. 326 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 4: See the comments by his attorney was the named Leonard Levine. 327 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 4: He wanted his day in court, He wanted to prove 328 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 4: he never did these things. 329 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. 330 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: I know even after his day, do you have to 331 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: say that nice sensitivity to the women, really nice? 332 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: Sure overwhelming story anyway. 333 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, the problem there is, you know this came to 334 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 4: light years ago and he still had not been the trial. 335 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 4: They gave out a billion dollars to the victims, but 336 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 4: the school did, but not no trial. 337 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: No, he barely spent any time in jail. 338 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: And guess gun has been sitting on this case for 339 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: three years. 340 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: Terrible. 341 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 4: All right, So that's some of the stuff you can 342 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 4: find if you check out the on demand after. 343 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: Kiss Gun doesn't even care if women are getting sexually 344 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: assaulted by the hundreds? 345 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 4: Does they also be happy to welcome your moistline calls 346 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 4: using the iHeartRadio app, the microphone icon or the toll 347 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 4: free number is there for you one eight seven seven 348 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 4: moist eighty six twenty eight seven seven six six four 349 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 4: seven eight eight six And tomorrow this hour we're not 350 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 4: only gonna have two rounds of the moist line, we 351 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 4: are throwing some hacks into the dumpster. 352 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: So you're gonna want to hear that. 353 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 4: That's the return of LA mob members to throw some 354 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 4: hacks into the dumpster based on a big story that 355 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 4: is an abomination. 356 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 3: Of course. 357 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 4: The El Segunda Times has a writer named Noah Berman. 358 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 4: Here's how he's described an enterprise reporter focusing on clashes 359 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: between red and blue states in the Washington bureau for 360 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 4: the LA Times. 361 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny, and all the stories make conservative states 362 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: look like a bunch of fools. Exactly what the point is? Yeah, 363 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: that's Noah Berman's beat. 364 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 4: So someone said to him, I'd like you to do 365 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 4: a little digging over the homeless situation. 366 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 3: You see people. 367 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 4: Here in California and La Johnny Ken Show. They think 368 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 4: a lot of it has to do with drug addiction, 369 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 4: alcohol and mental illness. We want you to write stories 370 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 4: and it's really about housing. 371 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: All right, What do I do? 372 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 5: First? 373 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 4: He went to Mississippi, Remember that story where he interviewed 374 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 4: some people, and it's like, well, because you see it's 375 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: low cost of housing there, right, they have many poor people, 376 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 4: but because they have low housing costs, they get people indoors. 377 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 5: All right? 378 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 3: Where else can we go? Who's got a drug problem? 379 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: West Virginia? 380 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 4: Go to West Virginia and do a story that says 381 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 4: they've got lots of drug addicted people, but they don't 382 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 4: have as much homelessness. That's the angle we want you 383 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 4: to write, right to try. 384 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: To make the case that drug addiction really doesn't contribute 385 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 2: that much to homelessness. 386 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 4: Oh, in fact, you found you you see San Francisco 387 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: professor said, people conflate. I love the word to flaten flate, 388 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 4: conflate these crises. 389 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 2: No, all right, I saw I got I got up 390 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: really early this morning. I got about five thirty. It's 391 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: just one of those things, you know, you just wake up, 392 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: And so I went downstairs and started reading. This is 393 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: one of the first things I saw, this headline, and 394 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: like you know, by five thirty seven, I'm already pissed off. 395 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 2: This is how I'm starting my day. It's like Jesus, 396 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 2: I know what they're doing here. Let me explain this simply. Yeah, 397 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: in West Virginia, in these small rural towns, people take 398 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 2: their opioids and they pass out in their cheap little shack. 399 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: In Los Angeles, we. 400 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: Have people that have traveled from all over the country. 401 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 2: They've traveled from West Virginia, or Texas or Tennessee or 402 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: Mississippi or Oklahoma or wherever. They come here. They don't 403 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: have a little shack, they don't have family. They come 404 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: out here. They're attracted to come out here, usually because 405 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: they've been thrown out by their family and they hear 406 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: that in California, you can live in a tent on 407 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 2: the beach, get twenty four to seven drugs, and no 408 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 2: one's gonna bother you. So we're dealing with all the 409 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 2: rest of the nation's rejects. These where families and local 410 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 2: officials sometimes put these losers on buses, on trains, and 411 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: they come stumbling out and they head for the places 412 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: that they've read about on their phones. But West Virginviginia 413 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: doesn't have that because they live in cheap shacks, they 414 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 2: have cheap rent. 415 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: They well, that's the. 416 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 3: Point they're trying to make. 417 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 4: Though we had cheap shacks and cheap rent, we'd be 418 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 4: able to house these drug addicted homeless people, but we don't. 419 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: We don't, so they're in the streets. 420 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 2: We don't and so instead you have these vagrants invading 421 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: nice areas of the city, you know, like Santa Monica, 422 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: like Venice, because they've left their cheap rural towns after 423 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: their families threw them out. 424 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 3: They tried to play chicken and egg here. I like 425 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 3: that expression. 426 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 4: They tried to say that, well, people who are homeless 427 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: first sometimes fall into drug use, right, they tried to 428 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 4: reverse it. 429 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 5: Now. 430 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 4: Even talk to a woman by name of Amanda Leffler, Huntington, 431 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 4: West Virginia resident who was homeless for fifteen years after 432 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: leaving her husband. But as you pointed out, a lot 433 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 4: one of the drug problems in this state are opioids. 434 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 4: You look at what we got going on here with 435 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 4: the finnel we got some and we got some really. 436 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 3: Nasty drugs here, the meth yes. 437 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 4: And it all comes from Mexico, where we're not going 438 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 4: to say, John, you lose yourself. 439 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: Survival and ritin. 440 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 4: I think these West Virginia people with their opioids, yeah, 441 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 4: they're out of it, but they still have some survival instincts, 442 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 4: a lot of that, so they sit in their shack. 443 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: A lot of that is prescription stuff, exactly. 444 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: It got out of control. 445 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: There were they were on Hulu that was like an 446 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: eight part docuseries called Dope Sick, and it was about 447 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: the role of the pharmaceutical companies in creating addicts when 448 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: they came up when they invented oxy content, right, got 449 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: a lot of West Virginia people addicted. And then the 450 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: oxy contin pills were being transported up inter State ninety five. 451 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: They had they had a name for it. It was like 452 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: the oxy Contin Corridor or something like that. And so 453 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: the pills were coming out of Florida and they were 454 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: being sold to these these rural people in West Virginia 455 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: who took pills got it, Dick did, and just you know, 456 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 2: would die in their little villages. Nobody moves to West Virginia. 457 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: If you're homeless, right, if you've been thrown out of 458 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: your house, you don't move to West Virginia. You move 459 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: to California because the weather is great, it's beautiful, and 460 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: Californians put up with everything. Californians elect morons and idiots 461 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 2: to create, and anything goes culture where there are no 462 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: laws in California. The politicians may try to make us 463 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: feel guilty for not putting up with all the drug 464 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 2: addicts and mental patients and the show. 465 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: This is the other thing. We've normalized the behavior. 466 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 4: See in West Virginia, the vagrants, you know, not vagrants, 467 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 4: but the drug addicts look around and say, everybody else 468 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 4: has got some kind of housing. I guess I'll flop 469 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 4: in this shack. And I do realize that the lower 470 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: rent has something to do with it. But now in 471 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 4: southern California and California, imitative behavior it's normalized. Oh they're 472 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 4: all lying there on the boardwalk in Venice. 473 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: I can do that too. Yeah, believe me. 474 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 4: That's a chief element of human beings. Follow other people, right, 475 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 4: shootings and how they come in little clumps. Because some 476 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 4: idiot sees that it's done. It's like, oh, wow, he 477 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 4: did it. He actually got the nerve to step over 478 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 4: and kill people. I can finally do that. People are 479 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 4: attracted if that's the same here, where people just realize 480 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 4: that if it's happening, I can do it too. 481 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: Yes, they're attracted to the freedom in California because we 482 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: don't have loss, because we have no societal norms here. 483 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: Because it's acceptable for people to run naked in the 484 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: street screaming, waving a machete in the air, whack that 485 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 2: on meth or you're allowed to dine in your own 486 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: filthy waste from fentomyl, and that and that no one, 487 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: nobody in law enforcement, nobody in government is going to 488 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: do anything about it. 489 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 4: All right, So what's the next state this guy goes 490 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 4: to try to drug addicts? 491 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: Mental illness has nothing to do with this. It's all 492 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 3: about housing first. 493 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the reason the housing is valuable here is 494 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: because we've got a lot of people who've achieved great 495 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: financial success, and so the housing prices are high. You 496 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 2: go to West Virginia, these rural villages, those people haven't 497 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: achieved any financial success. Okay, they've got there're a huge 498 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: numbers on welfare. 499 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean I read a story. 500 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: I read a book called uh Uh. It was written 501 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: by Kevin Williamson, and it was about the economy of 502 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: the small West Virginia town where people take their their 503 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: welfare debit cards and trade and buy soda with the 504 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 2: money on the debit card and then sell the soda 505 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: so that they could use that money for drugs. 506 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: Right. 507 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: You can't use a debit card, a welfare debit card 508 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 2: to buy drugs, right, but you can buy soda and 509 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: then sell it at a discount to a convenience store, 510 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: get the money from the convenience store operator, and buy 511 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: your drugs with it. 512 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 3: That's pretty bright. 513 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the economy in West Virginia. 514 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 4: All right, more coming up, Johnny Kevin can if I 515 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 4: am six forty live everywhere iHeartRadio app. 516 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and ken Onto from KFI A six. 517 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 4: I just got done looking at the latest video. Remember, 518 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: earlier in the show, we talked about this research into 519 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 4: woke people by Michael Schellenberger and his associate, right, and 520 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 4: about the whole psychological background of it and where it 521 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: comes from, and we were one of the things he 522 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 4: mentioned one of the categories that it's present. This psychological 523 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 4: cult like religious behavior, is climate. This time in Lisbon, Portugal, 524 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 4: the climate people decided to block a highway. 525 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: Have you seen the video? 526 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I love this. 527 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 4: First guy comes out and just takes their sign and 528 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 4: just runs across the road and throws it on the side. 529 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 4: Then the rest of the people dragged the ur invested 530 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 4: clad activists from their positions on the highway. It's something 531 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 4: called the Segunda Circular Highway. They were protesting a nearby 532 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 4: energy company. Two processors also hung from cables on a 533 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 4: pedestrian bridge overlooking the highway, but the drivers would have 534 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 4: none of it. After minutes, they got out of their 535 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 4: cars and off their motorcycles and drag these idiots off 536 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 4: the street. 537 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: Pulling on their arms so their bodies are skdding on 538 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 2: the asphalt. 539 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 3: Right. 540 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 4: They're told not to fight back. They're told you got 541 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: to be passive about this. Sometimes they make themselves heavy, 542 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 4: but they don't stand up and punch you. 543 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: You know the kind of people who do this. The 544 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: guys are all wieners. They they are. They don't know 545 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: how to fight. 546 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 2: I mean, who's kind what kind of guy lays on 547 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: the road to protest the climate. 548 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: Huh, what are you. 549 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 4: Think the statement they put out about this energy company 550 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 4: they were protesting this is a hoot. They are right 551 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 4: now killing thousands of people, dumping tens of millions, burning 552 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 4: them alive, drowning them. They are right now condemning millions 553 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 4: of people to gas chambers. Only this time the gases 554 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 4: are greenhouse gases, and the chamber is the entire planet. 555 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 4: This is called climate breakdown. It is premeditated and ordinate 556 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 4: act of violence. 557 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: That's exactly what they put on their Websit what Schallenberger 558 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: wrote about is this this This is this part of 559 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: of a It's it's when a set of religious beliefs 560 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: meet a psychopathic brain disorder and you get these ridiculous 561 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 2: displays of behavior that are just are just either way 562 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: over the top. This is not a normal way to 563 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 2: discuss an issue. They're not going to accomplish anything. Everybody 564 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: hates these people, and now people are just getting up. 565 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: It's like, all right, buddy, we're just gonna drag you 566 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: and make your head bounce on the asphalt. Oh. 567 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 4: I can't wait till somebody tries this in la I 568 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 4: mean one on one traffic in the morning or something. 569 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 3: That's what people have to do. 570 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 4: They've done this occasionally, but they usually do it at night. 571 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 4: Then remember the I think during the whole George Floyd protest, 572 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 4: people walked down the freeways. 573 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: If enough of these protesters get dragged across the asphalt, 574 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: get some asphalt burns on their on the back of 575 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: their head, yeah, this will go away. 576 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 4: This convinces people of nothing. No, no one looks at 577 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 4: that story. Everybody's watching it because it's fascinating to even 578 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 4: getting dragged off the highway, and most people are cheering 579 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 4: that they got dragged on. 580 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: Nobody's look at that videog. Oh they're so right. Now, 581 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 3: what can we do to stop these evil oil companies? 582 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: Psychopathic toddlers, that's what they are taken seriously by the media. 583 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: Conway's here. It's amazing how few lunatics run this country. 584 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, That's the point in Michael Schellenberger's post 585 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: on his news site, is that really is what it is. 586 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: It's people with pathological mental disorders and they have a 587 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: set of these ridiculous religious beliefs, and suddenly they got 588 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 2: in charge. 589 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: The last five years. It's wild. 590 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: Nobody wanted to push back on Alex Stone's coming on 591 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: with us. 592 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: Evidently there's some airlines, United States Airlines that are flying 593 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: with fake parts. There's a company in Great Britain that 594 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,959 Speaker 1: fudge the authenticity certificates. 595 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: There's a rumor you have fake parts. 596 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: Got one, I got one fake part. We have the 597 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: Powerball one point four billion dollars. Yeah, that's wild one Friday, 598 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: front of Saturday, Saturday, Saturday. You got plenty of time 599 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: to get your tickets. You can get him tonight, you 600 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: can get him tomorrow, you get him Saturday before the draw. 601 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 3: John's running right out. 602 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: Yes, And the six oh five Freeway it will be 603 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: enhanced with nearly three hundred million dollars, So they're gonna yes, 604 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: and yeah, they're gonna try, I don't know, put more 605 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: lane in a lane. 606 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 3: It's gonna be something useful. 607 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's change the numbers on it. 608 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 3: A pothole. 609 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: We need a new number, you know, new number. And 610 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: then we also have Steve Gregory coming on to talk 611 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: about the funeral of Ryan Clicking Brewer Deputy. It was 612 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: it was carried a lot of I saw a lot 613 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: of local TV coverage, which was great, and he said 614 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,959 Speaker 1: the first cop started showing up for a ten o'clock 615 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: mass ten o'clock service. They started showing up at four 616 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: fifteen am. 617 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild. It came from all over the country. Yeah, 618 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: I mean they drove. Some of them drove cross country 619 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: for this. Yeah, it really is great. 620 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 3: That show. 621 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: Support is unmatched in any other field. Any other accountants 622 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: don't do that. No lawyers doing that, or radio show. 623 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: If if I died, Robin would get three calls before 624 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: my shift was over for I used to Yeah, I 625 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: used to do talk radio in Minneapolis. 626 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: And don't have your funeral late morning because Ken and 627 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: I are going to be busy. 628 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: You know, I get ready. It's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy. 629 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: Ding Dog, Big ding Dog with you guys, OUs big 630 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 1: alight to and Heavy Dodgers this week, my my own 631 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: Heavy Dodgers live in the twenty four hour Cafe Newsroom. 632 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 4: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 633 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 4: You can always hear us live on CAF i a 634 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 4: m six forty one pm to four pm every Monday 635 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 4: through Friday, and of course anytime on demand on the 636 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 4: iHeartRadio app.