1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: The second hour of Clay and Buck goes right. Now 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: we're joined by Steve Hilton. He's running for governor in California. Steve, 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: always great to have you our friend, But we got 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: to dive into something before we get into all the 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: policy and all the seriousness. It seems that you, sir, 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: are sporting a Clay Travis style beard, and I just 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: want to say that the people of America have spoken. 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: They are fans of your salt and pepper beard. I'm 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: a slightly different generation than you and Clay, so my 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: beard doesn't quite have the gravitas of all that silver 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: quite yet, but I think it looks very distinguished on 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: you and Clay. And so I'm a proponent. 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: Okay. So I got to tell you the story, and 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: it's got a good ending. So it's totally accidental. We're 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: away for Thanksgiving last November, and I was just lazy 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: and I didn't shave. And the first day back, I 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: had some really early TV hit like Fox and Friends 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: or something, and I thought I just didn't have the 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: time or the energy to shave. As I went on, 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: assuming i'd get all this feedback saying you're so scruffy, 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: why didn't you clean up quite the opposite. A bunch 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: of nice messages about the beard, which really wasn't a beard. 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: At that point, I thought I'd tried it out on 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: the road in California. I took a poll at every 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: event that I did, overwhelmingly positive. And here and then 26 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 2: there are two moments that I thought I gotta stick 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: with this. Number One, I did Don Junior's podcast, and 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: you know, I've known Don from many years, and he 29 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: came on on the zoom and the first thing he 30 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: said was, hey, man, love the Maga beard. So I thought, 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 2: I don't know, is that a thing, the Maga Beard. 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: And then here's the one that I think you'll enjoy. 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 2: I just got a text from a good friend of 34 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: mine who's supporting me, a legend James Woods, the legendary 35 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 2: James Woods texted me last week and said, this is it. 36 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: It gives you exactly the right amount of gravitas. I 37 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: really think you can win this now. So it's staying. 38 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: You're like the Doseki's guy with a British accent. So 39 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: I think that this is this is a strong there's 40 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: a strong play for you. We support it. But now 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: let's get into this because we've talked about the governor thing. 42 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 1: We're going to talk you about that more. You got 43 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: to tell us what's going on here with the most 44 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: recent fraud revelations in your state. Obviously, all the Democrats 45 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: in charge obviously knew, some asleep at the wheeler probably 46 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, doesn't even care about the fraud hospices. What 47 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: do we know about the hospice fraud. 48 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: Well, the first thing to bear in minded this is 49 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: not neglect or incompetence. This is corruption. Because the reason 50 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: that all this fraud has gone on in California and 51 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: our estimate, So remember, just to take a few steps back. 52 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: I set up last year in the wake of the 53 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: Minnesota revelations a whistleblower line here in California called califoraud 54 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: dot com. We've had thousands of tips coming in, and 55 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: then earlier this year we set up cal Doge, which 56 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: is now up and running. Obviously, we're not elected yet, 57 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 2: so it's not an official thing, but you've got many 58 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: volunteers going through the books finding the fraud and we're 59 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: publishing these fraud reports. And one of the main areas 60 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: that we got tips for was in this medical space 61 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: because it's just huge amounts of money. It's and the 62 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: reason it's corrupt is if you look at the donations 63 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: to Democrat politicians in California and you look at the categories, 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 2: and Gavin Newsom is a useful proxy. Here's to be 65 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: running statewide in California for sixteen years. The number one 66 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: category of his donors government unions number two, try lawyers 67 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: number three, private sector unions number four, healthcare, healthcare don't 68 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: they're making money off of this, and they are, And 69 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom is the puppet of these people who are 70 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: doing the fraud. And that's why this goes on. It's 71 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: not neglect, it's not incompetence, it's corruption. And the scale 72 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: of it is just unbelievable. And the brazen, shameless theft 73 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: of our money to put in the pockets of these 74 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: scammers that then give money donations to Gavin us and 75 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: the other Democrats. It's just unbelievable. But the good news 76 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: is we'll be now and does not just ask you 77 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: had various people now really investigating it. You've got the 78 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: Federal Action JD leading that it's really going to come 79 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: to an end, especially when I'm elected in November, and 80 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: we're going to just stop all this in its tracks. 81 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: Last point I'd make is I'm putting together a slate, 82 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: a team of candidates running with me statewide in California 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: that's never been done before. In the governor's race. A 84 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 2: very important position is the state Controller. And the state 85 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: Controller has the power to audit every organization receiving state 86 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: money and to turn off the supply of money literally 87 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: to stop the money flowing. And there's a fantastic guy 88 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 2: called Herb Morgan running with me. We're working very closely together. 89 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: If you know, we can really change this big time 90 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: if we're elected this year. 91 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: Okay, last hour, I saw that this moron, Eric Swolwell 92 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 3: is right now potentially going to be favored as the Democrat. 93 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 3: I don't know what I'll have to do if you 94 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: were running against Alex Eric Swalwell, but there has to 95 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 3: be forty IQ points at least that separate you from 96 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 3: Eric Swalwell. I want to put out the call up 97 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: and down with the breadth of California right now. The 98 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: election is when when can people start voting for you? 99 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: And I think again a lot of people don't understand 100 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 3: this California has. I think it's called a jungle primary. Right, 101 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: we're the top two regardless of party advance. So explain 102 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 3: all the rules, tell people how to vote. What do 103 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: they need to know, because we are getting close to 104 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: ballots being headed out. 105 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: Exactly right, Clay, thank you. Listen, this top two system 106 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: is ridiculous. Obviously we should get rid of it. Book 107 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: we got it, and so we got to play by 108 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: these rules. For the last year or so, you've seen 109 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 2: a kind of clown car situation on the Democrat side, 110 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 2: nine or ten candidates, none of all of them incredibly 111 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: unimpressive machine politicians and hacks and ridiculous people, and they've 112 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: been dividing up the vote. And as a result of that, 113 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: in a lot of these polls, I've been leading and 114 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: there's one other Republican who will get to in a second. 115 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: Often that we've been the top two. But I said 116 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: all along it's not going to stay that way because 117 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: the Democrat machine is going to get behind one of 118 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: their candids. The unions, in particularly the government unions, they 119 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: will want their puppet that they control, and that is 120 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: what is happening right now, and that's why you're seeing 121 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: Eric Swolwell move up and up. And I think that 122 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: that will continue. The big unions are going to be 123 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: endorsing in the next few weeks. The teachers, the SCIU, 124 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: the Nancy Pelosi machine is going to get behind him, 125 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: I think, and so I think you're going to see 126 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: him really advance now. Right now, as of this morning, 127 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: the Real Clear Politics average of all the polls in California, 128 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: there's a bunch of these Democrats below seven percent. You've 129 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: got Katie Porter at ten percent. You've got Tom Steyer 130 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 2: and the other Republican Chad Bianco at eleven percent, Eric 131 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 2: Swollwell at thirteen, and I'm on fifteen and a half. 132 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: So that's the good news. On the average, I'm still ahead. 133 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: But you're right. There was a poll this week first 134 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: time that showed Eric Swollwell in the lead, a real pole. 135 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: It was a proper serious pole, and so we got 136 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: to take this seriously. The election is June, the second 137 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: ballots go out May the second. We're really weeks away 138 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: now from this election kicking off. The most important thing 139 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: to understand is that if we split the Republican vote, 140 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: it's not only that you're going to get Eric Swowell. 141 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: You're probably going to get Eric Swowell and Tom Steyer, 142 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: the billionaire climate fanatic. He has already spent seventy million 143 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: dollars just in the last few weeks, a few months, 144 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: and that's moving him up in the polls. And because 145 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: of this top two system, you don't need a huge 146 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: percentage to make it into the general election because there's 147 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: so many candidates. So I can see a situation where 148 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: we've got, you know, like, I don't know what to 149 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: even make of that Stier versus Swallow, what a joke. 150 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: But if you get behind one Republican candidate and I'm 151 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: the leading Republican and there's a lot of issues with 152 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: the other guy, Chad Bianco, he took a knee for BLM, 153 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: he says crazy things on immigration. He's basically for amnesty 154 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: on immigration, you can't have him. And so this is 155 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: the moment for every Republican to get serious about this. 156 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: Get behind the leading Republican candidate, and then I will 157 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: be guaranteed to be in the top two, because that's 158 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: how the math will work. And then it's a whole 159 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: new fight and we'll take it to whoever the Democrats 160 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: put up. 161 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: Speaking of Steve Hilton, he's running for governor and he's 162 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: telling us all about how this race is critical but 163 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: also winnable in his estimation in his maths and steven 164 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: to that end, I saw a lot of people are 165 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: focused in on gas prices right now for obvious reasons. 166 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: But your state is always the punching bag. It's you 167 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: know it for the rest of the country of you 168 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: see how high the gas prices are there. So yes, 169 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: Iran has everyone oh my gosh, what are gas prices 170 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: going to do? I think it's going to be fine, 171 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: by the way, but everyone's a little freaked out. 172 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: Uh. 173 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: And then in California it's, well, your gas price is 174 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: it's like there's always an oil embargo somewhere because California's 175 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: gas prices are crazy. You recently said to gas execs, 176 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: don't give up on the state of California. I don't 177 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: even think people realize that California has an oil and 178 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: gas industry. Can you speak to that a bit? And 179 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: what you're hoping could happen if you become governor. 180 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: It's an amazing situation. Again, just the lunacy of these 181 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: democrat ideologues, these climate fanatics incredible. First of all, let's 182 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: look at the numbers. So the temporary spike, and it's 183 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: obviously temporary. Everyone knows that. In the gas price since 184 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 2: the Iran War, which is what about fifty cents average nationwide? 185 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: Right in California, you look at the average, it's two 186 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: dollars high the rest of the country. Such a very 187 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 2: simple way of putting it, gavin you. Some of the 188 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: Democrats are four times as destructive as war in the 189 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: Middle East for California's when it comes to gas. The 190 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: point about California is we have abundant oil and gas 191 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: reserves in our state, mainly in Kern County, but now 192 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: huge reserve has been discovered in California. Right, I'm sure 193 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: there's a there's a reserve there which is considered to 194 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 2: be the second biggest in America, the niche behind the 195 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: Permian Basin. We have massive oil and gas reserves right now, 196 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: and we are importing in California nearly eighty percent of 197 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: the oil that we use. It used to be the opposite. 198 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: Most of our oil and gas we produced in state. 199 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: So what are these insane democrats now doing in the 200 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: name of climate They are shipping oil halfway round the 201 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: world on giant super tankers, spewing out carbon emissions because 202 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: they think it's part of their war on fossil fuels. 203 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: We're not using any less fossil fuel in California, we're 204 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: just importing it. It's insane, and that's the reason that 205 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 2: the refineries are closing down. Because the refineries were built 206 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 2: to refine California crude. The supply of that has been 207 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: dropping year by year with their war on the industry 208 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: here in California. Now the insane situe. I'm just with 209 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: a group of energy industry folks this morning, and now 210 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: there's even the insane situation that the small amount that 211 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: we're relatively that we're now producing, it used to go 212 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: in pipelines from Kern County to the refineries in the 213 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: Bay Area and in Near La. One of those refineries 214 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: has now one of those pipelines has now shut down 215 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: because there's not enough oil to justify the business. So 216 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: now what's happening. The remainder that we're producing is going 217 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: on trucks, so they again in the name of climate, 218 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: instead of a nice clean pipeline, we're now trucking it. 219 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: It's so insane. Now, as governor, I could reverse all 220 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: of that because it's all being done through these bureaucratic 221 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: agencies CARB, the California Air Resources Board, the Energy Commission, CALGEM, 222 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: the Geologic and Energy Management Agency, and it's very straightforward. 223 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: As governor, I will end the war on fossil fuels 224 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: as long as we are using oil and gas in California. 225 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 2: We're going to use California oil and gas. That will 226 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: keep the refineries open, bring down the cost of import, 227 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,359 Speaker 2: and we're going to get to three dollar gas in California. 228 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: That's the first pledge I made on the campaign trip. 229 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 3: I think this is so important and why I think 230 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 3: again everybody out there listening to us right now needs 231 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: to go vote for you and get you into the 232 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: final two. Buck and I have talked a lot about 233 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 3: the legacy of California. You grew up in England, Brut 234 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: grew up in New York. I grew up in Tennessee. 235 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: I remember the first time I ever got to go 236 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 3: to California. I was twenty one years old. I think 237 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 3: I had a college roommate from California. I went to 238 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 3: go visit, and I was so excited to step foot 239 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:38,239 Speaker 3: on soil in California because of the legacy of awesomeness 240 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: that we had grown up with buckets, talked about this 241 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: in New York. California, this golden shining state on a hill. 242 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: It's lost. You could help to return that. But I 243 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: think your experience growing up and what California meant to 244 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 3: you still can resonate with so many Californians. 245 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: On one hundred percent, Claire, I love the way you 246 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 2: put that. Look, the California dream is a real thing. 247 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: You know this, and it was in my imagination too, 248 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: like even before we moved here with my wife and 249 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: my sons, you know, whenever it was twenty twelve, we 250 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: moved here back in the day. I mean, people know 251 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: me from Fox obviously, but you know, most of my 252 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: career has been in business, and I worked for a 253 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 2: while in the government in the UK for David Cameron, 254 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: and when I was put in together the policy plan 255 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: before he became Prime Minister in twenty ten, one of 256 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: the Spectator magazine in the UK wrote a piece about me. 257 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: This is like twenty odd years ago, and they said, 258 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: and the title of the piece was a cover story 259 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: California Dreaming, and the theme of it was Steve Hilton, 260 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: David Cameron's policy guru wants to make the US inspired 261 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: by California, wants to make the UK more like California. Well, 262 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: who would want to do that today? I mean, that's 263 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: how far we've fallen. But the point is that that 264 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: idea of California. Sometimes I put it like this, California 265 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: means to America, what America means to the world. It 266 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: represents all the great virtues and beauty of our nation, 267 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: optimism and energy and dynamism and the kind of rebel 268 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: spirit and doing your own thing that's been crushed by 269 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 2: these years of bureaucratic, bloated, nanny state, bureaucratic government, and 270 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: the taxes and the spending and the bloat and the 271 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: waste and the regulations crushing the soul and spirit of California. 272 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: But it won't take much to really get back to 273 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: that beautiful California dream, because we've just got to stop 274 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: the government from doing all these insane things, and then 275 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: people and entrepreneurs will take care of the rest of it. 276 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: Steve, bring home the w in this governor's race, and 277 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: don't touch that beard, all right, all right, you got it, 278 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: seod Man, good Man, thanks for being with us. The 279 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: sirens and Israel went off all night Wednesday and the 280 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: Thursday morning. The same thing happened again last night, between 281 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: your ons drone attacks and Hesbelo's missile attacks. The population 282 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: of Israel's on high alert. Tens of thousands of them 283 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: are spending hours a day in protective momb shelters. This 284 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: is such a foreign concept to many of us here 285 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: in the States. Go into a bomb shelter in fear 286 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: of your life as competent as the IDF is, and 287 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: how will Israel protect its citizens? There are no guarantees. 288 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: That's why the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews are 289 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: there on the ground, bringing food, emergency equipment, care for children, 290 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: and help for the elderly, and supplying bomb shelters and 291 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: medical centers with critically needed essentials. This is the time 292 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: we stand with the Jewish population in Israel, just like 293 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: we'll stand by them in our nation. If you can 294 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: get forty five dollars right now to rush life saving 295 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: essentials to the vulnerable under fire, call eight eight eight 296 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: four eight eight IFCJ. That's eight eight eight four eight 297 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: eight IFCJ, or go online at IFCJ dot org. That's 298 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: IFCJ dot org. 299 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 4: Stories are Freedom Stories of America, Inspirational stories that you 300 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 4: unite us all each day, spend time with Clay and 301 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 4: buy find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever 302 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 4: you get your. 303 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 3: Podcasts, and welcome back in play Buck Sexton Show. Friday 304 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: edition of the program will take some of your calls, 305 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: lots of your talkbacks. Buck, you knew this was going 306 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: to happen, but I do want to share the way 307 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: that the attack on the synagogue in Michigan is being covered. 308 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: This is ABC News. 309 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: Have you seen this headline yet? The mayor of Dearborn 310 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: Heights said the suspect involved in the shooting and vehicle 311 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: ramming attack at a Detroit area synagogue quote had lost 312 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: several members of his own family in an Israeli attack 313 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: on their home in Lebanon. They are justifying a terror 314 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: attack based on what happened to this guy allegedly and 315 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: his family in Lebanon. He decided that he was just 316 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 3: going to randomly attack a synagogue in America. And my 317 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 3: question for everybody out there is, maybe I've missed all 318 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: the people who had Jewish relatives that were murdered on 319 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: October seventh and just drove cars loaded with explosives into mosques, 320 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: or maybe that's happening all the time. Obviously this is ridiculous, 321 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: but understand the framing that we're going to get. 322 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: The media is so deeply, deeply indoctrinated with this stuff 323 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: that it's really hard to get them to think about 324 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: things in any other way. They view this all as ultimately, 325 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: first and foremost racial. They even view the Islam and 326 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: Judaism thing as racial, not religious, because they have that's 327 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: the framework that are politics, and the left in America 328 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: puts things through first and foremost, and so Clay, there's 329 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: no reasoning with them. It's these were brown people that 330 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: did these two attacks, these two terror attacks, actually the 331 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: three well, one guy was black. These are brown people 332 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: that these two terror attacks. Have to find a way 333 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: to be as sympathetic as possible to the attacker. 334 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 2: Here. 335 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: That's the media's attitude about it, because brown people are 336 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: victims as long as they're attacking non brown people. And 337 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: that's essentially the way that they view all of this all. Right, 338 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: Precious metals are us that precious and inlimited quantity. 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We wanted to talk a bit here about 359 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: the aftermath of these two terror attacks that happened, both 360 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: of them with Jie hottist intent. I think that's pretty clear, 361 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: although some of the media don't know. We may never 362 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: know them. We may never know the real motive. This 363 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: is now beyond parody. When you have these news anchors. 364 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: Who's some guy you know, his name could be Mohammed 365 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: Mohammad wearing an iHeart isis T shirt. Can you run 366 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: into some place start shooting, yelling Alahu walk bar. He 367 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: could have written out a long confession beforehand, saying I'm 368 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: doing this on behalf of the Islamic State. You'll still 369 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: have a CNN anchor who will pop up and be like, 370 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 1: but can we really know? Can we really know the 371 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: motive behind this? And if it gets too tough for 372 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: them eventually, what they'll start doing is running panel discussions 373 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: about how the Islamic State is not Islamic. You know 374 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: that That's the other thing they like to do. This 375 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: is this has nothing to do with Islam, Like, well, 376 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: these guys seem to think it does. So there's that 377 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: this is a common We went through this clay in 378 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: the whole Gwatt era, which was really the Bush and 379 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: Obama years, predominantly eight years of Bush, eight years of Obama, 380 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: where we just had this was the argument always all 381 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: the time, and you had Democrats bending over backwards, bending 382 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: over backwards, to make sure that no one actually thought 383 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: there was any connection between Islamic terrorism and Islamic anything. Remember, 384 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: the Obama administration tried to change the GWATT, which is 385 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: what we still call it now those of us who remember, 386 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: which was the Global War on Terror, which was a 387 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: bushism they wanted to call it. I don't remember the 388 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: full acronym, but it was something like overseas contingency operations 389 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: against ideological extremists, and it really was something like that. 390 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: It was some absurd you know. The acronym was like 391 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: abaca jabber or something, and it was really long and 392 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: was like, we're not going to do that. Remember also, 393 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: Obama wanted to call it ISL instead of ISIS. Everyone 394 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: calls it ISIS now that Obama's always icele, it's IL. 395 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: We went through all this kind of nonsense. We understand 396 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: what's going on here. We understand why these people are 397 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: attacking in terms of what their ideology is and what 398 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: their worldview is, and there's going to be more of this. 399 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: What we are seeing though, is vigilance, taking security in 400 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: your own hands, acting quickly, getting off the X, you know, intervening, 401 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: taking action can make it huge, can make a huge difference, 402 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: and in the case of the synagogue, no good guy casualties. 403 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 3: So we know five attackers so far, if I'm not mistaken, right, 404 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: five different Muslim fundamentalist terror attackers. Two in New York City, 405 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 3: one in Austin, one in Virginia, and one in in 406 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: the Detroit area. Here's a question for you, Buck, five 407 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 3: have acted. What is the number of people you think 408 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 3: that are either susceptible or willing to engage in acts 409 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: of violence that are currently in this country. This is 410 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 3: what I spend a lot of time thinking about, because 411 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: everything is a probabilistic analysis. Mostly these are. 412 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: Going to be young men. 413 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: Mostly these are going to be young men without families, right, 414 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 3: that have been polluted by the idea that the best 415 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 3: thing they can do is give up their life in 416 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: a jee hottest attack. There's five we know in just 417 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 3: the last two weeks. Is it a thousand, is it 418 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 3: two thousand? Is it six thousand? How many people do 419 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: you think in America right now are willing on some 420 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: level to do this if the situation arises. 421 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: Having worked during a heightened time of Islamic extremism in 422 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: one of those offices, Clay and obviously the biggest one, 423 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: which was New York. You're at a minimum right now. 424 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: I would assume that the FBI, elements of DHS, state 425 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: police that have counter terrorism elements, of fusion centers. You're 426 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: talking about hundreds of cases where the people who are 427 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: close to it are saying, this could go off at 428 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, this could be action at any moment. It could. 429 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: It could become an actionable plot. And if they haven't 430 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: gotten them on a criminal on some kind of a 431 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: criminal violation before, the best they can do is just 432 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: keep eyes on. That's where we are, by the way, 433 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: I said at least hundreds. It could be in the 434 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: low thousands, but that's where we are. Okay, So that's interesting. 435 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: Here's the second question for you. We know, unfortunately, in 436 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: two different circumstances, suicide's cluster because people see this is 437 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: awful for people out there who have teenagers, particularly if 438 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 1: one kid commits suicide. Unfortunately, there are often echoes of 439 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: that suicidal act because it puts in people's minds the 440 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: idea of following through. 441 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 3: This is data. This is what it shows. Unfortunately, when 442 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: we see school shootings, there are often cluster impacts from 443 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 3: those school shootings because people who are of unsound mind 444 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,239 Speaker 3: or potentially susceptible to acting, are more likely to do it. 445 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: Buck, are you afraid? 446 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 3: Similarly, now that we've had five different jihattis to act 447 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 3: out that even people out there that are on the 448 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 3: fringe of whether or not to do this become more 449 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 3: likely to act because they see this having happened. Is 450 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: that a thing where when you see, like with suicide 451 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: and with copy. 452 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: Shooting act, is that basically it's like a copycat Yeah, 453 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: of course. And also you get people who see this, uh, 454 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: these actions and based upon you got to remember, they're 455 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: playing to a very different audience, if you will, sort 456 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: of in a way, in a manner of speaking, than 457 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: the rest of us. You know, they'll see and they'll 458 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: be familiar with some you know, gi hotti chat rooms 459 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: things like that, uh signal chats, I mean things that 460 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: are I think maybe they use teleg more so. I 461 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: don't know where the gihaties are hanging out these days. 462 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: I'm not in that game anymore of surveilling them. But 463 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: they have online communications and they want to see, especially 464 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: from a hardliner's overseas, praise for these attacks, and then 465 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: that's an encouragement to them as well, because they're bought 466 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: into this idea that they are they are warriors for 467 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: a righteous cause and that they become martyrs. Actually that's 468 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: the most glorious thing that can happen to them. So yeah, 469 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: we're likely to see more of this, It's impossible to 470 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: say how much more. And really what you're hoping for 471 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: is the situations that we've seen so far. And I 472 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: know we saw a major loss of life that's terrible, 473 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: and you know his family, you know, have now had 474 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: that that horrific, that horrific situation fall upon them. But 475 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: these are small scale attacks. If you're looking at casualty figures. 476 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: If if you can keep it small, you're doing a 477 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: pretty good job because you're not going to be able 478 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: to stop them all, you're not going to be able 479 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: to find them all before they act. If you can 480 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 1: manage to prevent this from becoming an attack where you know, 481 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: dozens of people are killed, scores are maimed and wounded, 482 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: and that's what we're going to be fighting against now. 483 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: Because also any jihadi watching what's going on knows Iran 484 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: and Ron's got nothing to hit us back with militarily. 485 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: So the only payback if you will from people who 486 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: are sympathetic to the MOLAS is going to be through 487 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: some kind of a terrorist deck. So you got this 488 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: guy at Old Dominion. This this is crazy, Clay, I 489 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: don't think we mentioned this. He this is the Old 490 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: Dominion shooter. His name was was Mohammed by Lord Jaloh 491 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: guy's name is Mohammed shack cut number five. Here here 492 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: he is rather, here is the identification by the FBI 493 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: of this guy, saying that he was arrested in twenty 494 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: sixteen for report and pleaded guilty to provide material support 495 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: to ISIS play five. 496 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 5: FBI is now the lead investigative agency investigating this as 497 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,239 Speaker 5: an act of terrorism. The shooter has been identified as 498 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 5: Mohammed Baylor Jallo. In twenty sixteen, Jallo was arrested and 499 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 5: pled guilty for attempting to provide material support to ISLE 500 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 5: now known as ISIS. Jaalo was sentenced to prison in 501 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 5: October twenty seventeen and was released from prison in twenty 502 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 5: twenty four. 503 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: Clay, this guy was released. He wanted to give He 504 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: was trying to plot a mass casualty attack years ago 505 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: against Americans. And now we find out that this guy 506 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: got released apparently got released early. That's what I read 507 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: at least, And you have to wonder why are these 508 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 1: people in the country in the first. 509 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: Well, I'm sorry, why are we releasing people who are 510 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 3: pled guilty or found guilty of terrorist sympathy in the 511 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: United States early? How are we not immediately denaturalizing And again, 512 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 3: I am not an expert in immigration law, but maybe 513 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 3: we need to focus more on if you're arrested for 514 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 3: terrorism in this country and you have previously been granted citizenship, 515 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: maybe we need to re examine whether you should be 516 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 3: allowed to stay in the country. 517 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just gonna toss that out there. And 518 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: one of these guys, sorry he out early, buck. One 519 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: of these guys was a naturalized citizen. I don't that 520 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: was actually the other Jihati terrorist. I think this guy 521 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm getting them. Let me see this guy. This guy 522 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: actually served in the Was he in the National Guard? Yeah? 523 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: This guy was a Yeah, he served time in federal prison, 524 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: early release, member of the Virginia Nation, former Margenia former 525 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: member of the Virginia National Guard. And oh no, yeah, no, sorry, yeah, 526 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: he's a naturalized Yes, sorry, I'm right, he's a naturalized 527 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: US citizen from Sierra Leon. The other guy is was 528 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: born in Lebanon. So we got foreigners for it's apparently 529 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: not that hard to become an American. You got these 530 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: foreigners who hate America, who want to kill Americans and 531 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: plot terror attacks here that we're making Americans, we're really 532 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: doing that. 533 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 3: We need to examine how we are giving citizenship. And 534 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: if you are convicted of providing terroristic support for terrorists 535 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: and you were at some point naturalized, maybe we should 536 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: go back and re examine the process by which you 537 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 3: became a citizen. Just an idea that seems very rational 538 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 3: to me who was opposed to this. We'll talk about this. 539 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 3: We'll take your calls to your talkbacks as well. 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I also want to tell 572 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 3: you Crockett coffee. Crockett coffee is the greatest coffee that 573 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 3: has ever existed in the history of the universe if 574 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 3: you love American history. Named after Davy Crockett, legendary Tennesseean 575 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 3: who moved to Texas and also became legendary there, and 576 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,239 Speaker 3: he died at the Almo. Just recently they had the 577 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 3: March sixth anniversary of the Alamo falling in Texas. We're 578 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 3: going to be going to the Alamo here soon and 579 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: we look forward to it. But Buck we come back 580 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 3: at the top of the next hour. I want to 581 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 3: kind of set the table here for a story that 582 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 3: I think is really supremely significant, and that is the 583 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: fleeing from high tax states to low tax states from 584 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 3: people with income who are able to do it. And 585 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: I want to set the table here Washington, and this 586 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 3: is going on across the country in blue states. Washington 587 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 3: State is saying that they are now going to tax 588 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 3: anyone that makes a million dollars or more at nine 589 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: point nine percent. 590 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: What does that do? Buck? 591 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 3: We mentioned this on the air, but I think it's significant. 592 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 3: Howard Schultz, who is the founder of Starbucks, he is 593 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 3: the coffee company you just started me talking about Crockett, 594 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 3: probably the most successful coffee entrepreneur in the history of 595 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 3: the world. He's moving to Miami. You also have Jeff 596 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 3: Bezos who left Seattle and moved to Miami, both because 597 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 3: of the tax situation in Washington state, And Buck, do 598 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 3: you know this story? I actually think the entrepreneurial story 599 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 3: of Jeff Bezos is a fascinating one. One reason why 600 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 3: Bezos decided to make Amazon based in Washington was because 601 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: it was a low tax state. And that's a little 602 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 3: bit surprising to some people because you think of the 603 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 3: West Coast and you think of California high tax, you 604 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 3: think of Oregon as high tax. Washington was a very 605 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: low tax state, and so Jeff Bezos went across the 606 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 3: country started Amazon in Seattle. Would you agree with me 607 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 3: on this, Buck, The three biggest companies, maybe there's four 608 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: that people think of off the top of their heads 609 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 3: when they think of Washington State an entrepreneurial success. I 610 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 3: would say, you think of Amazon, you think of Microsoft, 611 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: you think of Starbucks. Maybe you also think of Boeing. 612 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 3: I would say, maybe that's the four that come to 613 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 3: mind immediately. I know there are others, but those that 614 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 3: come to mind immediately. It feels pretty significant to me 615 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: that both Jeff Bezos and Howard Schultz have decided we 616 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 3: can't live here anymore, and so they have decided to 617 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 3: move from Washington to Miami. Also simultaneously, Zoron Mamdani is 618 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 3: proposing that if you live in New York City and 619 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 3: you die, you have to pay a fifty percent city 620 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 3: state estate tax buck at seven hundred and fifty k 621 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 3: in income. Now, they're also saying that they want to 622 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 3: have a huge mansion tax on anyone who buys a 623 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 3: property for five hundred k or more in New York City. 624 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 3: You know this better than most. What does a five 625 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 3: hundred k property? That is that that sounds like a 626 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 3: lot maybe to some people in different parts of the country. 627 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 3: What do you you get for five hundred k in 628 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 3: New York City? 629 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: It's incredible, Actually, it's like a marvel of engineering. Five 630 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars in Manhattan will get you three hundred 631 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: square feet where you can sleep, shower, and cook without 632 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: actually moving. It's like you're in a little pod. It's 633 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: like a bed with a showerhead above it and a 634 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: toilet that you roll over to. That's what five hundred 635 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: thousand dollars gets you in Manhattan. Unfortunately, it is rough. 636 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 3: So the idea they're calling this a mansion tax. First 637 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 3: of all, I think the average home in America now 638 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 3: is four hundred and fifty K. Team, will you look 639 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 3: that up nationwide? I know it varies depending on where 640 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 3: you live, but I think the average home cost in 641 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 3: America now is somewhere in the neighborhood of five hundred 642 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 3: and fifty k. That's the average. I know people buy 643 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 3: more or less, but I think the average. So even 644 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 3: calling it a mansion tax nationwide would not reflect what 645 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 3: reality actually is. I think there's a lot of you 646 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 3: that live in homes that cost four hundred thousand dollars 647 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 3: and you're like, five hundred thousand dollars. 648 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: This is not a mansion New York City. 649 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 3: What Buck just said about what you get for five 650 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 3: hundred k is basically a closet and for them to 651 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 3: be taxing the people that have the ability to make 652 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 3: money in New York City, I don't understand why anybody 653 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 3: would stay. And we're going to hit this in earnest 654 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 3: because I do think it's a big story and I 655 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 3: think it is transforming much of the country as highly 656 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 3: successful people in blue cities and states are finally done 657 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 3: with what they see coming get out while you can, 658 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 3: and I think a lot of the richest and smartest 659 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 3: people are getting out while they can. We'll talk about 660 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 3: that when we come back. We'll take more of your talkbacks. 661 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 3: Thank you for hanging out with us. Fourteen hours up, 662 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 3: fifteenth hour, Next of the week on Klayan Buck