1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, the show that takes 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment, 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: and culture. We start with headline news and then we 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: journey into layer conversations, always finding those life lessons that 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: are presented in every single story. I'm ourselves like that, dude, 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: And this week I want to chop up some woods, 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: starting with the mar Hamlin's injury and just take you 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: through my emotional state, what I was doing and the 9 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: impact it had on me. Let's start um in my 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: basement with my son, my entire family. But my son 11 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: is lying on me as we're watching the game. He's 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: very much in tune with Daddy. Used to play in 13 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. He thinks I was one of the greatest 14 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: players ever, which is hilarious. Uh. Sometimes I shut him down, 15 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: and sometimes I'm like, hey, let him have a hero. 16 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: Who am I to burst that bubble? But he's lying 17 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: on me and we're watching the game. He knows I 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: played for the Buffalo Bills, so he's really into this game. 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: And then we see what happens on that play. Now 20 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: that played to me in real time caught me off guard, 21 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: like just the part of it caught me off guard, 22 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: and I think it was because the way that Tee 23 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: Higgins was running and then the way that the collision occurred. 24 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: I can't explain this to the fullest, but I think 25 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: people have tried, and a lot of them got their 26 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: ass lit up third rail for trying to do this. 27 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna do it um because of repetition, because 28 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: of how many times I've been hit and how many 29 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: times I've hit someone. There's an anticipation, there's an expectation 30 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: that we know how this is gonna go. The geometry, 31 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: the physics, like, we kind of just have an estimation 32 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: of what's gonna occur. And I Aint gonna lie on 33 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: this one. Te Higgins turned up feel abruptly to a 34 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: point where I could see where Damar Hamlin was caught 35 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: off guard. You could just tell by his tackle h 36 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: the crown of the head hit him in the chest 37 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: and neck whatever all that is, that's not the issue. 38 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: The unexpected force I think was the issue. And I 39 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: remember in the moment, I was like, damn, he took 40 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: it and then boom. You gotta remember, not only did 41 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: you take that unexpectedly, but now you're gonna land with 42 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: all of his force and without proper bracing in that moment, 43 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: but none of this time in my thinking any injury 44 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: will occur. I was just like, oh, I'm gonna eat 45 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: that one. Then he lands on his back, gets up, 46 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: pops up right, pops up pretty sproat pretty fast, and 47 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: you're like, all right, we're good, we're good. Nothing to 48 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: take mention of, nothing to take notice of. And then 49 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: he collapsed. And when he collapsed, UM, I've been in 50 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: that place before. I got knocked out in college, so 51 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: obviously I'm not cognizant of how I looked. But I 52 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: had a couple of teammates in college. One he got 53 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: knocked out so hard he went to the other team's 54 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: huddle start asking for chocolate cake from his mama, and 55 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: then they had to navigate him to the sideline and 56 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: obviously take care of him. But this wasn't that because 57 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: Tamar Hamlin didn't even get up, so you knew he 58 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: was knocked out. And then the way his head hit 59 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: the back of his head head, You're like, oh, all bad. 60 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: So whatever the injury was, I thought it was neurological 61 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: nerve damage or something, because he just felt like that 62 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: you just had to multiply in your head because you're like, 63 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: look how he felt. And then the time and clock 64 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: started ticking. WHOA, now, let me take you back before 65 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: I even go forward. I was seven years young and 66 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to play football, and at that time I 67 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to play football. Didn't past my physical. I 68 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: had an irregular heartbeat and I had really bad asthma, 69 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: and so the doctors like, sorry, I can't pass him. Uh, 70 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: he's too much at risk. And I remember having to 71 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: get hooked up to this like breezing machine and on 72 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: a treadmill, had to run to see CEO, two levels 73 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Right, I'm seven years old at 74 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: the mingus, I think it was still Valley Hospital in Compton, 75 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: and I'm running on a treadmill trying to show him 76 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: I can do it. Failed it. My first month of life, 77 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: I was in the hospital. Everyone tells me, um that 78 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: I didn't leave a hospital for a whole month just 79 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: because of my asthma. How bad it was. So I 80 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: failed the physical, a regular heartbeat, asthma, and all of 81 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: a sudden, my grandmother, who was religionified, Oh my grandmama, 82 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: deal was so religified. She said, okay, I'm gonna tell 83 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: ain't a honey, we're gonna get on this, We're gonna 84 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: get after this. I'm like, all right, I don't know 85 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: what the hell this means, but basically, let's do anything 86 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: because I want to play football. My ain't of honey. 87 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: I think she's from shreport. You know. She comes in 88 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: l a one time, and a Honey's like, what's wrong baby. 89 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: I was like, I can't play football. They said I 90 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: can't breathe. She was like, she's like, okay, meet me 91 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: by that tree right in the back. So we go 92 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: to a tree my grandmother's house, and she says, put 93 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: your back to that tree. She grabs her bible, start 94 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: reading some scriptures, grabs a hammer and a nail and 95 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 1: starts hammering this nail over my head, like directly over 96 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: my head as she's reading the scripture. And then she, 97 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: you know, put a cross over my head all that 98 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and she's like, all right, go take 99 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: that test again, baby, you're gonna be playing football real soon. Now. 100 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: I'm seven, So I go to church with my grandma 101 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: every Sunday, but I ain't religified because I don't even 102 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm hearing and you fast forward and I 103 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: have to take the test again to try and get 104 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: clearance to pass the physical. Y'all know I passed the 105 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: physical because y'all know I end up playing football. What 106 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm not lying, y'all. That's how it went. So fast 107 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: forward to the moment and I'm like, wow, I'm thinking 108 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: about my times with the irregular heartbeat, not passing the physical, 109 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: the asthma, and all the issues I had, and I 110 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: was like, damn, I wonder what's going on. Six minutes 111 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: seven minutes. My wife and I such an exchange of 112 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: she's a medical profession, you know, CRNA, so basically uh 113 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: a nurse and neescetist that puts people to sleep right, 114 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: and I'm a former player, and we're just going back 115 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: and forth, and to be candid, my wife was like, 116 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: it's too long. He's been down there too long, baby, 117 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: this is not gonna work out well. And I was like, well, no, baby, 118 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just holding out hope just because the 119 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: gladi area and me and I've never seen anybody die 120 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: on the football field, et cetera. I'm like, no, he's 121 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: not going anywhere, baby, It's just they're just being extra careful, 122 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: extra cautious, and then it was like, well, eight minutes, 123 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: nine minutes. Then they finally get him up, and you 124 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: can see the players their emotional responses, how dejected they 125 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: were emotionally work. And I know what those looks look like, 126 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: and I know when your guys can cuss versus when 127 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: you guys got a broken leg first, and when you 128 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: got a c l versus when you got achilles. But 129 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: I've never seen those looks before. Those were the looks 130 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: of like they saw life, loss death a ghost. Like 131 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: people were looking lifeless, like they saw someone lifeless. All right, 132 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: so now he gets carted off. Then you hear reports. 133 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: Everyone's checking their phones, obviously, reports are waiting on his 134 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: mom in the tunnel with the ambulance. And now the 135 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: first time I thought to myself, he's gone. Because if 136 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: you're not showing any sense of urgency, there's a reason, 137 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: like you're not trying to get to the hospital, like 138 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: people have a low success rate of responding to CPR 139 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: in the hospital, let alone on a football field. So 140 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I think he's gone. I started 141 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: to listen to my wife a little more and then 142 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: this is what this is. When it got real than real, 143 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: with me. My son looks back at me and he says, Dad, 144 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: is he gonna live? And I'm sitting there like, what 145 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: is the appropriate answer? Because I don't have the answer. 146 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: And then he followed that up with double trouble. He said, Dad, 147 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm glad you never had an injury like that when 148 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: you played football. Now I feel like I got survivor's remorse, 149 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: like guilt straight up. I'm like, ah, I've never ever 150 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: played football thinking to the extreme that I ever would 151 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: die on the football field. And I had all those 152 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: medical issues and never thought that. But I do know 153 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: how brutal football is. I do know how brutal that 154 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: game is. It hurts all day, every day, and it 155 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: hurts in the worst way in ways that you guys 156 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: don't even recognize his fans, you know, at the time 157 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: when your own betters just runs by you with those 158 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: four by four thighs of his and just hits your 159 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: shoulder and knocks it back to the other shoulder, and 160 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: it was just a three yard game and the cloud 161 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: of dust and nobody takes mention of it and notice 162 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: of it. And you're sitting there like that hurt. You know, 163 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: you sound like one of the wounded dogs sitting there 164 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: like damn, and I was sitting there like wow. In 165 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: this moment, they didn't have the next man up mentality. 166 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: I saw some guys trying to warm up. I saw 167 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: some guys trying to you know, compartmentalize put it in 168 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: the right place, which is impossible because what was that place? 169 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: And I say, right there, that's what happened. That's when 170 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: the NFL took his pause, and it was a different 171 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: pause because you couldn't bring closure to this one. You 172 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: couldn't put a button on this one, you couldn't put 173 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: the proper punctuation to this one. You didn't know what 174 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: this one was gonna turn out to be. So I'm 175 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: looking like, wow, what is going to happen? What is 176 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: going to happen? Y'all know our coach, right, So these 177 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: parents trust me. They bring their kids to me, ten 178 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: of them. We go through our drills, conditioning, discipline, work place, everything. 179 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: Never did I ever think that I had the responsibility 180 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: of their life in my hands, but watching this scene 181 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: vividly made me think how responsible I am because they 182 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: are playing football. I was like wow, Wow. Obviously since 183 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: that moment, there's been huge progress. The updates are that 184 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: he's neurologically intact. The updates are he speaking to his friends, 185 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: his family, his teammates. The updates are he's doing a 186 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: lot better, but still obviously in a critical state. All 187 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: that said, man, all that took me to so many places, 188 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: crying with my son, trying not to lie to him, 189 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: not trying to really burst his bubble, because that boy 190 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: loves football like way more than me, Like like, damn, 191 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: whose son are you? He loves football, and I'm not 192 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: trying to lie to him, but I'm also trying to 193 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: protect his youth, protect the purity of what he thinks 194 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: this game is. So it's interesting how it all played out. 195 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: It's still emotional right now. But because he seems like 196 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: he's on the path to improvement, I'm so encouraged. All 197 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: of the thoughts, all of the prayers, all of the support, 198 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: all of this adding up for him. So good to see. 199 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: But that was me from the former player perspective. But Dan, 200 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: I started putting myself in, transporting myself into what if 201 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: I were his teammate? That could I compartmentalize because I 202 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: put it in the proper place, and I'm like, yeah, 203 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: I could, Like I really as a team, I would 204 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: have been like, we're playing for him. Next man up, 205 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: let's go. And I don't know if that would have 206 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: been right or wrong if I were the opponent, if 207 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: I were T Higgins, And I'm not throwing guilt at anybody, 208 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: but if I were on the Bengals, how would I 209 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: feel like he didn't just pass out walking on the 210 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: field and warm ups like the opposition did this to him? 211 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: How would I feel? I would feel guilty to some degree. 212 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: I would feel some level of guilt like I contributed 213 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: to whatever may happen to this young man. What if 214 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: I were his family m hm. To not only see 215 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: your family member laying there lifeless, but two more, imagine 216 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: that his life is gone. Oh come on. But here's 217 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: the part that got a lot of people in trouble 218 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: Skip Bayless in particular. What if I were an NFL 219 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: employee all ready for this. What if I worked for 220 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: the Shield and I was employed to keep the train 221 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: on the tracks. I was employed to obviously do a job, 222 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: do a task. Yeah, I could be emotionally torn, I 223 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: could be emotionally devastated, but I got a job to do. 224 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: And let's talk about that. NFL dilemma where Joe Buck 225 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: I think, started off, you know, saying they have five 226 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: minutes to warm up and let's go back and play. Obviously, 227 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: Troy Vincent since that point has denied that the league 228 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: has denied that that was information. But it's just hard 229 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: for me to think that Joe Buck just one made 230 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: up the information to said five minutes and three. I 231 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: was watching players actually warm up, so it all aligned 232 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: to what Joe Buck said. But everything from the NFL 233 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: just sound like cover up, just sound like, hey, we 234 00:14:55,240 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: can't go through this another scandal. But be Oh. When 235 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: I was talking to my wife, one of the things 236 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: we were talking about this are they gonna really suspend 237 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: this game? I was really sitting there. I was like, 238 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't think they are. I don't think they should. 239 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: And she was like, what are you kidding me? Somebody 240 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: maybe dead, and you're not gonna suspend the game. You're 241 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: gonna keep playing. I was like, look, look how late 242 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: in the season it is, and it sounds so heartless, 243 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: but these are the thoughts, these are the things that 244 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: have to manifest. Somebody has a job that's gonna look 245 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: and sound heartless. I was like, baby, it's only one 246 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: game left. If you play or don't play, it's not 247 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: gonna change the outcome of him and what's going on 248 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: with him. And she was like, no, that's just too traumatic. 249 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, and I've never seen that before. 250 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: But also, yeah, did you see those guys warming up? 251 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: They were there. It was crazy. Mm hm hmmm. It 252 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: took me back to when my mother passed away. And 253 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: my mother passed weigh in two thousand and five. Uh, 254 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: everyone around me was emotionally disturbed because of my mother's death, 255 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: like my family, my friends, because we were close. I 256 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: was a mama's boy. Ah. My nickname is Teddy Bear, 257 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: So people who knew me knew how much I loved her, 258 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: so it affected them, even if they didn't have the 259 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: closest relationship, just the fact that it had the relationship 260 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: with me, they felt it. So I thought that the 261 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: world was gonna shut down when my mama died. I 262 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: thought the world was gonna say, hey, you know what, 263 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: respect ourselves. We know how devastating this is. But I 264 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: found myself the next day, despite going to bed thinking 265 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: the sun would not rise, it did, and I was 266 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: almost mad at the universe. I was mad at the world. 267 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: What the y'all gonna just keep going like nothing. And 268 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: not only did the sun rise, but m it was 269 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 1: clear skies. It was a nice sunny l a day. Okay, Okay, somehow, 270 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: so some other way, it's gonna come out. I remember 271 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: having to go to the hospital, see doctors, talk to people. 272 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: You have to go to the florists. You gotta go 273 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: to the march ary, you gotta start making plans. I'm 274 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: starting to run into people who know about it, and 275 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: obviously they're in a somber move. But people who didn't 276 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: know and they got jokes, they're just chilling. They just 277 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: acting like nothing's happened. You fast forward a few days, 278 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: go to the funeral. It's it's pseudo lighthearted. Some people 279 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: are celebrating life, as they say, now, I ain't want 280 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: nobody to celebrate no damn life, because she didn't have life. 281 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: Jokes at the funeral, were were cooking what are we 282 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: going back to eat after the future, like, and literally 283 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: I saw one person try to break out their phone. 284 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: I think, mm hmm, yeah. I only bring that up 285 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: for this reason. Everybody's coming at it from a different perspective, 286 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: from a different vantage point, from a different emotional state. 287 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: That's what happened with Damar Hamlin as well. Everybody didn't 288 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: come at it like teammate, family, friend, opponent. Some of 289 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: them had a job to do, even if their job 290 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:40,959 Speaker 1: in that moment looked heartless. And let's talk about somebody 291 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: who everyone is saying it's heartless, Skip Bayless, let's talk 292 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: about this whoa. Let's talk about Shannon and Skips beef 293 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: and Shannon skipping the show and then coming back, and 294 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: y'all know how to win down. It went interrupted. That's 295 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: call that show interrupted, not Lebron's uninterrupted, not undisputed, but interrupted. Damn. 296 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: This is crazy, Okay. I think this is a case 297 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: of the classic never outshine the quote unquote master. And 298 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: I ain't staying it in a racial way, So get 299 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: out of my face and politicizing this. I'm talking about 300 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: that show with Skip Bayless' is y'all know that right? 301 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: You're all ready for this two thousand, what's sixteen? Skip 302 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: Bayless leaves ESPN gets that dope. Now I'm gonna go 303 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: that dough He got that dough dough too. He got 304 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: that that Peelsberry boy, that fat boy dough. Damn, he 305 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: got that dough boy. That ice cube Jesus, but he 306 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: deserved it because he was the face of the network. 307 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: Kim and Colin Coward. All right, so about respect. But 308 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: a lot of changed since then. Let's just talk about that. Ah, 309 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: you know, Skips tweet. And there was nothing wrong with 310 00:19:54,880 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: Skips tweet except you hit sinned at the wrong pcific time. 311 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Max used to always say this, 312 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: Max killing me my dog. He said, Uh, the time 313 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: to clown the fat girl is not when she's coming 314 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: from the gym with the sweaty wrist bands. Y'all understand 315 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: what that means. Basically, Uh, there's a time and place 316 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: for everything, and certainly the time is not when they're 317 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: trying to do something else or is trying times and 318 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: Skip kind of missed that one. I thought the same 319 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: thing he thought. I wasn't gonna tweet it. I ain't 320 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: thirsty for social like that. I'm not about to say, 321 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, my first thought, in my first impulse, here 322 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: we go send. And that's what got him in trouble, 323 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: the timing. But what he said, somebody was really not 324 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: only thinking that. Somebody was saying that, and somebody was 325 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: living that out for the NFL. So I didn't have 326 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: a problem with the tweet. But since people got a 327 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 1: problem with Skip, oh, they're gonna on with that tweet. 328 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: You know why because that was the straw that broke 329 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: the camel's back. And y'all know, a straw do way 330 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: nothing a straw on way ship. But there's a lot 331 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: of other straws on that camel's back, and they weigh 332 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: a lot. People were kind of fed up with Skip 333 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: or they just wanted to give it to him, you know, 334 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: they always trying to stick it to him. If you're 335 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: the villain, nothing people are happier about than sticking it 336 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: back to you, right, So that's what that moment was. 337 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: They were trying to give it back to Skip. Now 338 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: you add that that the world, the mob whatever you 339 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: wanna call that force of people who just all get 340 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: together and collect their information saying we are going to 341 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: stand by this together and solidarity and try and destroy 342 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: and cancel your ass. Right. So that's where we were witnessing. Now, 343 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: Skip doesn't do that show by himself. Does that show 344 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: with Shin and Shop My Dog and Shannon Shark and 345 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: Skip Bayliss They showed us something there. I don't know 346 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: if they like each other or not. People on the 347 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: inside tell me they don't. People on the inside tell 348 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: me they don't talk. But since I don't have their 349 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: schedule now or then, I certainly don't have it now. 350 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: I asked my ass ain't working up there, but I 351 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: didn't even have it. Then you gotta remember they go 352 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: to they go to work, what six thirty, they'd be 353 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: up in their three, four or five o'clock. Man, I 354 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: ain't even step into that billing to eleven o'clock. So 355 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: I never saw them. Never, never never nunka never saw 356 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: But you know, inside rep is nah, they're kind of 357 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: good on each other. Whatever that's conjecture. But maybe it's 358 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: not because we saw it play itself out on live 359 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: TV because Shannon One skipped the show. Now he may 360 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: be justified. Obviously what happened to Sterling, his brother really 361 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: paralyzed and watching that that's devastating. And then to see 362 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: something that quote unquote is insensitive by the masses, by 363 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: your partner, Yeah, you could be in your feelings, You 364 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: could be feeling a certain type of way. Me. I 365 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: was like, dog, I can't hang my teammate out to 366 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: dry like that. Even if I got beef. I'm coming 367 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: up to the show the next day, and the first 368 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: topic is beef with you. The second topic is more 369 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: beef with you, you know what I mean. Like, even 370 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: if we don't like each other, even if the world 371 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: and the mob is trying to cancel you and I'm 372 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:38,239 Speaker 1: kind of like wishing it happens and silently rooting for it, 373 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna come up there and let you know. 374 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: But I ain't them and he didn't show, So then 375 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there like, man, cats are always always talking 376 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: about speak truth to power, and you know when they 377 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: get all into the black ified and all that speak 378 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: truth to power. Yeah, y'all speak truth to power. To 379 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: the show turn, they say that speak truth to power 380 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: till as they turn to do it, if you don't 381 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: step yourself up there and tell Skip Man that's how 382 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: you really feel. But that day went by, right, So Skip, 383 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 1: I didn't watch that show, but everybody was saying, you know, 384 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: he did the show by himself. I don't know if 385 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: he did good about whatever. He did the show by himself. 386 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: But now we get to the fun part. The next day, 387 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: Shannon shows up, and Shannon should have the floor because 388 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: Shannon has been gone. It's an elephant in the room. 389 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: How Shannon is feeling. Get it out the way. So 390 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: we got a regular show and I'm watching like everybody else, No, no, no, 391 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: let me not lie, Let me not lie. That was 392 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: a clip. Somebody sent me the clip that part, and 393 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm watching the clip like, oh, he can't get through 394 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: a minute of a monologue. I'm like, oh yeah, all 395 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: them cats told me that they ain't feeling each other, 396 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: they ain't lying. God, du that was crazy, And now 397 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: let's unpack it. Why is it like this? I ain't 398 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: gonna get into it, like what they said word for word, 399 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: word for word. You're already seen that and dissected that. 400 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: What's crazy is the bigger Shannon got on that show, 401 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: the higher attention got. Now people are saying, this manufacturer, 402 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: they're doing it for ratings, And I feel some of that. Certainly, 403 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: you lean to whatever's gonna help you out, whatever's gonna 404 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: give you and your your show greater success, incentive shape behavior, right, 405 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: So I get that. But what I don't get is 406 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: one people are saying, Shannon is being so classy by 407 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: not responding, He's being such a good citizen by not responding. Right, 408 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: everybody's just giving them props for that. Y'all gotta also 409 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: understand he knows he can't disrespect the bridge he crossed 410 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: to get here, and that is Skip Baylis. But Skip 411 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: is testing his Southern hospitality. Skip is testing all is 412 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: Shannon's Southern hospitality because Skips an agitator. You know, commonly 413 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: people call them people a holes. What was that movie 414 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: would Meet the Parents and whole little kid? Like, Skip 415 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: does that on purpose because in real life, Skips real nice. 416 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: Like every time I see Skip, it's like a human bubble, 417 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: Like he's just so gentle, so like nice. You're like, 418 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: everyone knows if you go to the war with Skip 419 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: on the show, he gonna come for your neck. Everybody 420 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: know as soon as he say cut or you know, 421 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: go to break commercial. Skip the nicest dude in the world. 422 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: And I'm not lying, like literally in the world, he's 423 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: the nicest dude. So I was like, that's crazy to see. 424 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: But what's happening right now is Skipping is realizing that 425 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: Shannon needs to stay in his place in terms of 426 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: the dynamic of that show. That's why he keeps flexing 427 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: on Shannon, put your glasses on. It's why keeps flexing 428 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: on Shannon, won't let him get a sentence through. I'm 429 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: not taking a tweet down. Even the day before Skips 430 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: said that the bosses says something the next day when 431 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 1: Shannon brings it up, or the bosses didn't say anything. 432 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: This is a flex because he thinks that Shannon is 433 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: trying to flex, because Shannon is just growing in popularity. 434 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: Maybe he's post traumatic stress because then this happened with 435 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: stephen A and him. A lot of people told me 436 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: that I don't remember the beats of that, but stephen 437 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: A kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and it 438 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: started to go a different way. Maybe he's really reliving that. 439 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. But all I know is if somebody's 440 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: trying to cancel my partner, I'm there for my partner. 441 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: But I also know my partner can't be trying to 442 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: flex on me because my partner shook. Because if we're 443 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: really teammates, the better me is the better are weak. 444 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: And that's what I don't get about their relationship from Afar. 445 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: You know, you gotta just show up if you Shannon 446 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: check them, and if you skip he shows up, you 447 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: gotta shut it. You gotta let him have his at 448 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: least a minute worth. Let him get it off his chest. 449 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: Then y'all could just beef off what he said. But 450 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: you can't even beef or have a debate as you 451 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: want to all the time because you didn't even let 452 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: them get it out. It's crazy. I'm to my two 453 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: dudes older than me beefing off of social media. You know, 454 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: bots and and and just eggs. Well, I guess uh 455 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: elone got rid of the eggs. But whatever, it's a 456 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: sadd state of affairs that it felt like there was 457 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: tension in the air based off of them listening to others. 458 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: It's always that right, miscommunication or no communication even worse. 459 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: It takes me back to when I played in Ryan Leaf. 460 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: Remember Ryan Leaf. Everybody called him the greatest bus that's 461 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: cold wrong, But Ryan Leaf. I remember hearing this old 462 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: lineman tell me that he was such an ass. They 463 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: got so mad at him that there were times with 464 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 1: what they wouldn't block for him just to set him straight, 465 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: teach him a lesson? Are you kidding me? Man? Like 466 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: you can be a teammate with somebody, but hang him 467 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: out to dry. That's what that reminded me of. Like damn, 468 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: they both kind of hanging each other out to dry, right, 469 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: like Shannon not showing up, Skip not letting them talk, 470 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: Skip trying to punk him, Skip trying to say so 471 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: when Shannon said he was a Hall of Famer, he said, 472 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: so what Oh if I'm shutting, I'm like, it's time 473 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: to go to the club. Sha shay my mouth. What 474 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: are we doing here? Because you're trying to say I 475 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: ain't better and Brady, but you know I'm better than 476 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: you because you ain't even in the competition. Uh see, 477 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: this is why I ain't gonna get to that yet. 478 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: This is why it's a house of cards. When you 479 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: talk to some of these shows and these relationships, it 480 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: ain't going in well man, because cat's gotta sit on that. 481 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: You imagine all them rocks you're sitting on while you 482 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: arguing over somebody else. Y'all arguing over some other players, 483 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook and then y'all know y'all got beef with 484 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: each other. Oh, y'all know, y'all caught up in the press. 485 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: So it's gonna in all kinds of weird ways. But 486 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: they're not firing Skipp. Y'all need to get off that Shannon. 487 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: They're not gonna fire Shannon either. Shannon got cloud. Now. However, 488 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: Fox is good with like letting y'all both coexists. I'll 489 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: get to that later, but they'll let you co exist. 490 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: But they like, we ain't doing the beef stuff because 491 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: they had that issue with Brandon Marshall Nick right, and 492 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: I think that really stained the brain of some of 493 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: those exacts and all. We ain't gonna have nobody hating 494 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: somebody on our network anymore. So that's where that went. 495 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: But both guys are in eight job security. If you 496 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: ask me whose job is safer, I think old reliable. 497 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: I think Skips job is safer. You know, I'm not 498 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: saying he's better or any of that stuff. I'm just 499 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: saying he's safer. Plus Shannon, you know that's fry young man. 500 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: He can speak and pop off and do some other 501 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: stuff because that club Sha is rocking and Skiff podcasts 502 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: is not that ship Dry WHOA come on, Skip, you 503 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: better than that reading paper and just talking. Come on, dog, 504 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: we were better than that. But he's the king in 505 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: terms of debating, he's certainly the king. Go on and undisputed, 506 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: but they're throwing rocks at the throne. You better watch 507 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: your back because they're coming for your head. This got 508 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: me into a conversation because some fans kept hitting me 509 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: up and I was like, dog, you ever beef with 510 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: any of your co hosts? I was like, any damn 511 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: near all of them. So I'm gonna try and get 512 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: through this. And I ain't gonna take all day, because 513 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: y'all know I beef with a smile. I laugh at 514 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: my pain. I love levity, so anytime you got a 515 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: problem with me, I'm a giggle your ass away. So 516 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: let's start with some of these beefs. Uh. Since I've 517 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: had the most co host probably in the business. Uh, 518 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, I got passed around like a figure row 519 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: of flipper. Let me let me get some of these 520 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: beefs out there, Max Killer, and let's start there. Max 521 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: and I almost got a fight, got into a fight 522 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: in front of Starbucks downstairs ESPN one day. Don't ask 523 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: me why. From my perspective, I don't know why we 524 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: were about to fight, but I knew what I was 525 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: mad at, and it wasn't particular, it was in general. 526 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: Max was talking too much. I was like, damn dog, 527 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: Now I was deferring because Max had already done radio before, 528 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: and I was new to it. I was deferring because 529 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: Max is so damned talented. He's a genius, and he 530 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: funny as hell, and he had this persona going where 531 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: he was acting like he was from Watson, I'm from Compton, 532 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: and he was harder than me, and you know him, 533 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: the rapper, all that stuff, like all the stuff that 534 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: bonded us. I loved it. But I got the I 535 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: got the stick, I got the personna. But I was 536 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: like dog, sometimes we gotta talk real, you know me. 537 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: I like to talk real talk, deep talk, layered le 538 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: let's just do that. Max just go back to his 539 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: same old pull the string and go back to I'm 540 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: from Watson. I'm like Dog, I'm trying to drop some jewels, 541 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: some waity isms. And that was just in general. I 542 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: was frustrated, Like dog, stop talking so much and he 543 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: interrupts you, especially if you win and you're getting the 544 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: point off on it here. That's enough, that's enough. That's 545 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: my dog. I love that dude so much. But anyway, 546 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: that's how I felt. I don't know why we went. 547 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: We were walking out the studio and then we were talking. 548 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: We were talking, we were walking next to each other. 549 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: It was contentious, and then we kind of squared up. Now, 550 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: Max ain't no pump. He squared up for real, not 551 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: like he was gonna swing, but like I ain't gonna 552 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: back down, kind of square up. And I squared up 553 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: just because I was like, man, you talked too much. 554 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: Just chill. I'm not gonna swing, dog, and you don't 555 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,479 Speaker 1: want me to swing because even if I can't fighting, 556 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: I know you're boxing analysts. These hands, these Paul's gonna hurt. 557 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: And I wasn't gonna do jack. But I just remember 558 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: us having a moment of beef writing for the Starbucks. 559 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: I remember that moment. I remember the moment I had 560 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 1: beef for Michelle Beatle. Now I want to tell y'all 561 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: who we have beef over, but because that person is 562 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: still super famous and I protect the guilty, so I 563 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: can't say their name. But I was on air one 564 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: day and I talked about that person in a glowing 565 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: fashion because I love that person still to this day. 566 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: But I also love Mama Beatle. I love Michelle right, 567 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: but I didn't know Butchelle didn't love hurt. I'm like, what, 568 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: so I'm just doing the show I'm doing the show whatever, 569 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: giggling all through this Sports Nation. I mean, damn, who 570 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: could be mad on Sports Nation unless you know I 571 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: was writing Michelle was wrong right anyway? Um, all of 572 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: a sudden, I could just hear, you know, the responses 573 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: between her and I getting shorter and shorter and shorter. 574 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean, and I was like whatever. Then somebody, one 575 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: of the producers called me in was like trying to 576 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: hit me to it. They were trying to tell me 577 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: what happened, but also kind of like leaning like, yeah, 578 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: don't do that again, like food, do what again? Bring 579 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: up my homie. You know that's happening. Your bees ain't 580 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: gonna be happy. Oh that well, she better get happy 581 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: because and then we had a meeting. I remember we 582 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,959 Speaker 1: had a meeting in the morning, and we're sitting around 583 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: this conference room talking about this issue. And all I 584 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: said was you want me to hate who you don't like? 585 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 1: I said, is this third or fourth grade? I don't 586 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: do that. I was like, look out of love and respect, 587 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 1: I ain't know you even had a problem. I ain't 588 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: got to bring them up. I certainly won't go out 589 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 1: of my way to bring them up. But if they 590 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: get brought up relaxed. It ain't it ain't the stir 591 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: up a beef. Oh you really didn't know we have beef. No, 592 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: I do not go around Italian beefs because I don't 593 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: have any. So no, I didn't. But that was funny. 594 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: Oh I cho let me get too, Oh man, I 595 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: Chow and I never had beef. I knew I cho 596 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: before he came on. Speak for yourself. Um, so I 597 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: didn't have beef without Chow. But I show and I 598 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: had this like pulling in different directions stuff. You know, 599 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: I think what I cho he wants to be a 600 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: star if he's not a star already, Like from Hello, 601 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: I knew he wanted to be a star, right me. 602 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: I just want to do the work. So we're pulling 603 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: in different directions in that way. When you want to 604 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: be a star, you're you want to pop off, you 605 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: want to get it in, you want it to play big. 606 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: And I didn't have that ambition. I didn't have that aspiration. 607 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: I just wanted to do my job and do it 608 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: the right way, to be sway. So that's how we 609 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 1: kind of on the show, doing it together as partners. 610 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: That was the first time I was like, oh, this 611 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be interesting. We're going in different directions. And 612 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: then immediately I started to hear stuff and no, stuff 613 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: that was like, oh man, we ain't gonna be partners 614 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: like I want to be. But it's all good because 615 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 1: I could work with anybody. He wanted his own show 616 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: from Hello. Right from Hello, I didn't now here's the problem. 617 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 1: And I didn't have a problem except if you're my boy, 618 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: you're my partner. You let me notice. He wanted his 619 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: own show and didn't want to tell me he was 620 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: working to try and get his own show. Now, if 621 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: you would have just came to me like, dog, I 622 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 1: love working with you, but I'm trying to get mine. Bro, Man, 623 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: you a right, no, I would be like, yeah, as 624 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: you should. But I didn't hear it that way. I 625 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: heard it through grape vine. I heard it from bosses. 626 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: I heard it from contemporaries, and if you google you 627 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: can see way back like when we first started, I 628 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 1: chose gonna get his own show, and he was going 629 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: to the boss's crib and you know, I guess designing 630 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: and scheming it out, and I tried to stay out 631 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: of that, and everybody wanted me to get riled up, 632 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: and man, I was like dog. First of all, if 633 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: he wants his own show and gets it, what am 634 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: I to say to that? That means I'm not the 635 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: one that they want, and that's fine by me. Like 636 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: I don't beg for no job. I just worked my 637 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: ass off to keep it and if I don't do it, 638 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: and if I can't keep it, it wasn't mine. Move on, 639 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: So I wasn't tripping. I was like, I'm not mad 640 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: at that dude, Like he he ambitious. Let him go 641 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: get it, and if he gets it, then it ain't mine. 642 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: That's how I always felt about it. You know, I've heard, 643 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, the reports, they were all hanging and conspiring. 644 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: I was like, man, let him live. I'm not tripping. 645 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: But then I started to realize there were times on 646 00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: the show where when you're not pulling it in the 647 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: same direction, ah, you leave your other partner out to dry, right, 648 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,720 Speaker 1: Like you ain't there for him because there's a rooting 649 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: interest that is selfish. There's a rooting interest that this 650 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: is gonna turn out for you, and you wanted to 651 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: turn out for you, not for us. And you know, 652 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: knowing that information and watching him kind of not always 653 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: be there for me because y'all can watch back. I 654 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: chow I say something to be like wow, I can't 655 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: believe you said that, but not in the way of 656 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: like man, that was that was amazing, That was astounding, 657 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: That was profound. It was more like, oh, that's taboo. 658 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: It was like, damn dog, don't me trying to get 659 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: me in trouble. So it was funny. But all of it, 660 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell he knows it. Don't mean anything's perfect. Anything 661 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: perfect about us was our imperfections. Um, but I love 662 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: to dude, but I knew from hello he wanted his 663 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: and now he kind of got it. You know, he 664 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: kind of got it. It's it's an ensemble, but he's 665 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: leading the charge. So good for him and that's what 666 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: he wanted, and frankly, good for me because this is 667 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: what I want. Adam Scheffer, Adam Schefter and I had 668 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: a little beef indirect he got mad, told the bosses. 669 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: Everybody had a whole ESPN PR on me. Made me 670 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: give one of those fake apologies. And I said it too, 671 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: because remember Jim Harball was going to Michigan, but before that, 672 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: everybody was dragging it out and trying to guess and 673 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: have Vegas, Bett Nos and what was gonna happen. My 674 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: boy is a recruiter. He's a recruiter like for Fortune 675 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: five hundred companies, etcetera. Right, and he hit me one 676 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: day He's like, big dog, look at this. He sent 677 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: me a picture of Jim Hardball's signature in contract to 678 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: go to University of Michigan. I said, whoa. So I 679 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: just went on my show casually like I do and 680 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: just said it like that. And I didn't know, but 681 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: boy did this snowball interview interview, interview, interview interview, And 682 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, my producer came in through 683 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: me giving all these interviews and saying it on our show. 684 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: I think it was MAXI, Marcel's all that stuff. Uh yeah, um, 685 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: we need for you to retract what you said or 686 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: apologize for saying that, like for what it's true. You 687 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: want to see the contract. No, it's not that, it's 688 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: just protocol. And Adam, you know, really was upset. I 689 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: was like, oh and see, I was like, this ain't 690 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: my lane anyway. So since this ain't my lane, I'm 691 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: about to apologize and not mean it. I'm apologizing. I 692 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: don't mean that. I only apologize because this is how 693 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: he butters his bread. I don't I don't break news. 694 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,919 Speaker 1: I ain't trying to do that, So I get that part. 695 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 1: But damn y'all want me to do all that. They 696 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: wanted me to just act like I didn't even know. 697 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: I don't know we're hardball going. I don't think hardball 698 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: growing anywhere. I was like, y'all crazy, y'all crazy, you 699 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: wanna hear something crazy. Whitlock and I got into a 700 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: couple of them. Um ours were more contentious because Whitlock 701 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 1: ain't never scared right in his dressing room too. Wilock 702 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: had that bomb dressing room to that v I P. 703 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: Dressing room with a shower in it or something, think something. 704 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: It was bigger than mine. I know that. That's all 705 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: I know, M But we were beef because Whitlock is 706 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 1: big on like being a journalist and the journalism right, 707 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: the integrity of doing this the right way, and no 708 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: matter who you are as the athlete, Whitlock feels a 709 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: distance between him and his journalistic integrity and us and 710 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: just our playing experience and us articulating it. So he 711 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: didn't give us full respect. He can't give me full respect. 712 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: All the time, even though that's my boy and that's 713 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: my He was just like, you're an athlete, you ain't 714 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: a journalist. It's a different animal. And sometimes I actually 715 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: agree with him. I'll be like I hear you. Not 716 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: all the time, but sometimes. But a couple of times 717 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: we had a little issue in the conversation. Temperature was 718 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: rising as we were going through those, and I remember 719 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: the exacts. I had to take a walk with the 720 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: execs after a couple of them. And this is why 721 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: I know that Fox. You know, Skipp and Shannon, they'll 722 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: let you co exist. They were like, yeah, we don't 723 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 1: want this to turn into any hateful situation. Do you 724 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: want to do another show? Do you want to work 725 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: somewhere else? Etcetera. And now I'm like no, I say, man, 726 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: we argue, but I ain't mad, Like I can argue 727 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: with you because that's just a heated disagreement and then 728 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: move on. But I remember all that going down. It 729 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,919 Speaker 1: was a second or two, but it was. It was real. 730 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: But will I ain't no punk? Dog? Will I be 731 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: talking in? I was like, dog, don't be talking to me, 732 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: Like we almost got into it. It was real. Somebody 733 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: I never got into it with um Colin Coward, but um, 734 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,720 Speaker 1: like Colin is nice, but it's always like I'm always 735 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 1: following college, so I think Colin got mad at me 736 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: or like just make it all my asks, like you 737 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,879 Speaker 1: know what I mean. A couple of times, like because 738 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 1: Colin did Sports Nation, then I did Sports Nation, and 739 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,919 Speaker 1: it was weird because I was not taking his job. 740 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: I was not Wally pipping, but couldn't Wally pipple. But 741 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 1: when you when you go on break or absence or 742 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, take a day off, and then the other 743 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: guy gets all that love and attention, you kind of 744 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,919 Speaker 1: feel like man. And sometimes I was like, he ain't 745 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: being as nice as I know he can be to 746 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: me sometimes, But maybe that was just me reading into 747 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: it because everybody kept telling me that. But then he 748 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: comes to Fox and then he does speak for yourself first, 749 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,240 Speaker 1: and then I do it. So no, Colin, like manute 750 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,439 Speaker 1: this dude, don't get off me back Jean backpocket, Jean 751 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: looking at But me and Colin never had beef. I 752 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 1: just sometimes I'll be like, you don't like me that 753 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 1: much because I keep taking what you don't want. Carry 754 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: champion my girl. Oh Carrie used to just I don't 755 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: know what was up with Carrie. When we used to 756 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: work together. She used to call me Captain Patience, and 757 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,439 Speaker 1: it's like marcellas. She were just so sweet and nice 758 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: and so level headed. I was like, yeah, because you're 759 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: just becoming a carry coming there sometimes and just be 760 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 1: mad at it and mad at what. I don't even know. 761 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was. It was fun because 762 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: Carrie's a talent, like Carrie is eloquent, like that's it. 763 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: Eloquent but and elegant, damn there, and then gangster to 764 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: now that's my homie. Um. But she used to be 765 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: mad sometimes. I used to put out the fires for 766 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: I remember one time we was downstairs for a minute, 767 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: now I hadn't I had to put the fire extinguisher 768 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: to something she was mad at. Never me, but just 769 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: something I was always around. Stephen Jackson and I man, 770 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: that's my dog. But remember him and Kwamie and Matt 771 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: Barnes all got into it. Stephen was not happy with 772 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: me for he thought I sided it with Kwamie. I 773 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: don't side. I just think Kwamie got some shots off 774 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: ship was funny, funny. I don't know what Kwami up 775 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: to now. That way for me. I don't watch you 776 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: to tone, but I do still have some of my memorabilians, souvenirs, uh, 777 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: Mama's cooking glass all that. I bought some shirts that 778 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: got it all. But the point is Stephen is my dog. 779 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,240 Speaker 1: Like I'm way closer. I don't even know Kwamie Brown, 780 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: but I'm way closer to Stephen Jackson. So I was 781 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: kind of mad that he got mad at me. I 782 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 1: was like, what, he just got a joke off on you. 783 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: But I guess at that time, one of your boys 784 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: laughing at you when the world seemed like they really 785 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: heckling you doesn't feel good. So you know, I apologize 786 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: for that because I love Stephen Jackson and Matt Barnes. 787 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: It was my dogs. But I was laughing and I 788 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: choked out off. I got some good ones off, he said, 789 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 1: CVS receipts long, he got some jokes off. But Stephen 790 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: came on our show after that, and I was like, oh, 791 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: he's gonna be mad at me, and he certainly was 792 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: mad at me. We went to commercial or something. He 793 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, dog, you know he had that two 794 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 1: packet juice voice. I was like, what, yeah, dog, that 795 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: Kuami ship you know, you know what I'm saying that 796 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: Kuami like what, I don't even remember what the beef 797 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: was like. He went further than that. I said, Stephen, 798 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 1: I know you're not really gonna be mad at me 799 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: at that, And now he's not. That's how it was. 800 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: Um somebody that I didn't beef with, but we just 801 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: were oil and water and it wasn't even fair because 802 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 1: I like him as a person. He's actually like, well, 803 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,439 Speaker 1: he used to be my neighbor almost Sean farnham Man. 804 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 1: I was doing the show with Max and I forget 805 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: who next and what next? And then they brought Sean in, 806 00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:01,439 Speaker 1: and Sean came in hot. He came in hot, and 807 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,839 Speaker 1: we had the same agent. So my agent was like, Yo, 808 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 1: how's it working out? And it's the first time I 809 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: ever did this in my life. I was like, because 810 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: it's radio and it's four hours long. I was like, 811 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to do it with Sean 812 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: um because he's just too loud and he's just too hot. 813 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: He's just and he wanted to talk college basketball, like 814 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't know nothing about college basketball. John wood john 815 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 1: Wooden still coaching like him and on the tip of 816 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 1: that was just like dog, I mean, look, it was 817 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: my show, and I didn't run them off. I just 818 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: told him, look, I don't want to do the show 819 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 1: like that. So then I think we brought it. Did 820 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: we bring in Eric Allen? Yeah? I think it was Erican? Yeah? 821 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: And then he got in trouble and Eric Davis Eric Davis, 822 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: not Eric Allen, And then I was like, yeah whatever, 823 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: so Sean farn him. I apologized, but you already know 824 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: um and they should have did another show with him 825 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: and stuff. But whatever, he's still ball, he's still killing it, 826 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: and he's doing this thing. He gets to talk basketball, right, 827 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: all right, basically to some all that up. Man, I 828 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,800 Speaker 1: got more stories, but I don't even know. I forgot 829 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 1: to have my partners, uh man. I am the tortoise. 830 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: I am the tortoise because Dom God, Dune and a 831 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: lot of people are hairs. And sometimes you know, they 832 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,760 Speaker 1: come in hot, they come in fast, they come in gangster, 833 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 1: they come in at a different speed than me. But 834 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm always there for him, and I'm certainly gonna be 835 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 1: there at the end. All right, let's talk about somebody 836 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: who was there and shouldn't have been there. They say, 837 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 1: Bart Scott when he tried to break that play down 838 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 1: we were talking about. M m. You saw what he 839 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 1: tried to do. Everybody knows bar Scott got in some 840 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: hot water to mar Hamlin's injury. Bar Scott just tried 841 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 1: to break the play down, like I broke the play 842 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: down and everybody back. I hear what he was saying. 843 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,240 Speaker 1: He was talking from our perspective as a former defender, 844 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: same thing I told my wife. Then Michael Parsons, blastom, 845 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,839 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Man? So insensitive? Man? But man, 846 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: we do right Michael Parsons, I like you, No, I don't. 847 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: I love you as a player. Godly you're dripping with 848 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 1: that talent. But man, don't don't blast him for that. 849 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 1: He was trying to break it down. See here's the thing. 850 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: He was trying to give nuanced perspective. You just want 851 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 1: him to be binary, like this is right, this is wrong. 852 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: Nobody learning from that, just echoing. So I didn't like 853 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: that for Michael Parsons. And then another thing is when 854 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: we have these layer discussions, that's how we grow. And 855 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 1: bar Scott was trying to bring another layer to it, 856 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: and he wouldn't allow him. And that was weak and 857 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 1: bart you know mars is just like whatever, he just 858 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: showed up to work. I don't even think he acknowledged. 859 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 1: Maybe he did, But we're living in the world right 860 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 1: now where the smart people are being silence because the 861 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:13,439 Speaker 1: dumb people are sensitive. Yeah, man, and not me, No, sir, 862 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 1: not me. Never shut up. So guys, I in like 863 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 1: that part. I am like how Bart Scott got put 864 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,839 Speaker 1: under the microscope under fire because he was just trying 865 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: to give perspective of a play. No, it can't be 866 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: like that, y'all. Gotta chill now. Speaking of chilling, let's 867 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: take our time with this one. Shall we the Hall 868 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: of Fame and the Hall of Fame Earth? Wait, I 869 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,399 Speaker 1: gotta see this list. I think it's fifteen Hall of 870 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: Famers finalists, the Hall of Fame final lists, final list finalists. 871 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,839 Speaker 1: You get It's two different words through finalists finalists. It's 872 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: the list of final for fifteen of them. Patrick Willis, 873 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 1: Jared Allen, Ronde Barbera, Dwight Freeney, Durrell Reevers, Damn, Devin 874 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: has Day, Andre Johnson, Joe Thomas, De Marcus, Where Tory Holt, 875 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne, Albert Lewis, Zach Thomas, Willie Anderson, and Darren Woodson, 876 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 1: Can I state the obvious, uh beast, all of them 877 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 1: beasts who's not gonna get in? Let's be real. Willie 878 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: Anderson ain't gonna get in. Albert Lewis ain't gonna get in. 879 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 1: Let's start from the bottom, and this is a high bottom. Oh, 880 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 1: Darren Woodson ain't gonna get in. Even though that was 881 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 1: my teammate, my boy, my dog, and he was a beast. 882 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 1: Uh man. Jared Allen ain't gonna get in. And I 883 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: love Jared Allen. I remember our coach. I always tell 884 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,400 Speaker 1: this story. We're watching film and this is when I 885 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: was in my heyday. I'm bawling right um, coming down 886 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 1: the hill a little bit, but still not to the 887 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 1: point where I need to watch a hum of a 888 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,239 Speaker 1: Jared Allen, a rookie who coach said used to just 889 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: play special teams or something, and he was like, what's 890 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,840 Speaker 1: this guy's hand to hand combat? And I'm watching I 891 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 1: was like, damn, it is vicious. It's sick like who that. 892 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 1: He was like, Jared Allen, you're a rookie. Uh like rookie. 893 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't even know if he was really I'll remember 894 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,280 Speaker 1: hearing that. I was like, what why are we watching 895 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 1: some youngster out there? Well, now I know, because that 896 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: dude was a beast. Dwight Freeney, my dog, old school 897 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 1: Miami days, hanging out, kicking it, that's been moved, that's 898 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 1: has many and devil move all right, No, he should 899 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: be in. All right, let me say the five that 900 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,800 Speaker 1: should be in. Let's be real, because I don't. I 901 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: don't like jumping on fences and ripping my jeans. Patrick 902 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: Willis is not gonna get in, probably just yet, even 903 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 1: though he should and he will, but he didn't plays 904 00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 1: enough people eight years, five first team All pros, the yeah, 905 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 1: that okay, this is who I would put in. I 906 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: would put in, Dwight Freeney, Devin Hester, Durrell Reevers, Joe Thomas, 907 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,359 Speaker 1: Doug Joe Thomas is one actually not even close. Joe 908 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 1: Thomas has one. And DeMarcus Ware that's it. That's my father. 909 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,800 Speaker 1: Is that what you're supposed to do? Sorry, Andre Johnson, 910 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 1: everybody else you're gonna get yours, but not yet, sorry, no, sir, 911 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 1: not yet. Can't give it to him yet. But god, 912 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 1: that's a list. These dudes out here, eating, out here, bawling. 913 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 1: Let's switch gears and let's talk about It's interesting that 914 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,280 Speaker 1: everybody's talking abou Tomorrow Hamling and not enough people probably 915 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 1: talking about Peyton Hillis, who had his day in the 916 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 1: NFL on the cover of Madden, but right now is 917 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 1: in critical condition after saving his kids from drowning. Yeah, 918 00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 1: he's recovering, but he has some kidney issues and lung issues. 919 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,360 Speaker 1: Almost died trying to save his kids from drowning. Saved 920 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 1: his kids though. Let me take you back decade or so, 921 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 1: there was a story down south. Ah, They're all at 922 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 1: a lake. Kids jump into lake, playing around. All of 923 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:26,360 Speaker 1: a sudden, kids who can't swim started to drown. Adults 924 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,840 Speaker 1: sitting there watching the kids start to drown can't jump 925 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 1: in because the adults can't swim either. A lake. I 926 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 1: think of a dozen people, none of them could swim. 927 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 1: You ask yourself. Water in the water in the first place. 928 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 1: Maybe it was shallow waters, but it got deep point 929 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: being none of them could swim, and I think me 930 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 1: if not all of them died, it was an inspirational 931 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:58,760 Speaker 1: story to me that made me do a charity event 932 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 1: where I swam from Manhattan Beach to Venice Beach. Now, 933 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 1: if you drive from Manhattan beach to Venice Beach. No traffic, 934 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:14,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna take you at twenty minutes. No traffic, you swim, 935 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 1: no sharks, it's gonna take you fifteen twenty days. It 936 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 1: felt like that to me, But I did it to 937 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 1: raise awareness for people who need to know that swimming 938 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 1: is not just a sport, not just an activity, but 939 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 1: a life saving activity. It's not just recreation. It can 940 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,759 Speaker 1: save your life. So I did it, and I was 941 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,879 Speaker 1: scared to do it. Oh the first time I had 942 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 1: to swim from shore. So you go, you know, you 943 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 1: go shore, you fight the waves, and all of a sudden, 944 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,280 Speaker 1: you can't walk anymore. Now you're swimming. And then especially 945 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: out here in the Pacific Ocean, you got your hand 946 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,879 Speaker 1: in the water. You put your hand under the water. 947 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,240 Speaker 1: You can't see your hand. It's black as green as purple, 948 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 1: Like damn, there's a shark all around me. I'm just 949 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 1: knowing because I can't see him getting caught up in seaweed, 950 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 1: thinking you're about to get eight up. And that was 951 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 1: just practice, that wasn't even the event. And I was like, 952 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 1: I literally, I'm not lying to y'all. I'm not a quitter. 953 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 1: I was gonna quit this. I wasn't gonna do it. 954 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 1: I was like, there's not a damn chance I'm doing this. 955 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't even make it past the pier. I was like, 956 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 1: how am I gonna make it? Swim the business beach came, 957 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 1: even make it past the damn pier, and then you 958 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 1: gotta take it a mile or two that way. I 959 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 1: wanted to quit, but I was inspired by the losses 960 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: of life and really try to raise awareness, so I 961 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 1: did it. It was the scariest thing ever. But I 962 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 1: only bring this up just because it's interesting how Peyton 963 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: Hill has had his day and now even in him 964 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: fighting for his life. It's a bottom ticker conversation, you know, 965 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 1: and Tomorrow Hamlin is not. But as we did with 966 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 1: Demorrow Hamlin Man another one in the fraternity, thoughts and 967 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,919 Speaker 1: prayers go out to Peyton Hillison his family as he 968 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 1: tried to save his family and did, and hopefully he 969 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 1: can be saved as well. I saw this story about 970 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 1: someone who couldn't be saved, Kim Block. He died in 971 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: a snowmobile accident. Father and husband, growing up a steep 972 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 1: hill and the snowmobile landing on him. That hit home 973 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 1: for me. I don't know how many you guys follow 974 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 1: my career early days, way back when I used to 975 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 1: cover the X Games, but I did and snowmobiles, yep, 976 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: dirt bike, snowmobiles, rally cars, all this crazy stuff. Hanging 977 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 1: out with Travis Pastrana and Levi La Valley Uh. And 978 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 1: Levi was a snowmall snowmobilder. He lives in somewhere like Minnesota, 979 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 1: and I had to do a piece on him. I 980 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 1: had to do an interview with him, so I flew 981 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 1: out to his hometown out and I flew out to 982 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 1: his hometown in Minnesota. And the first thing is when 983 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: you get there, you barely see cars. Everyone's on a snowmobile. 984 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 1: Like I was like, what is going on? Like it 985 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 1: felt like the Jets and how they were flying around 986 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 1: in those cars. Everybody was on the snowmobile going to 987 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 1: the grocery store, going to seven eleven, just going down 988 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 1: the street. I was like, dog, y'all ain't got cars, 989 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, we got cars. But I 990 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 1: went to school on the snowmobile. I was like, what, 991 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 1: Like this is crazy, but you fast forward. He's giving 992 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: me snowmobile lessons and and it's so sad what happened 993 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 1: to Kim Block. But it's so dangerous in terms of 994 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 1: what a snowmobile is capable of. It's a mush share 995 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 1: and I had no idea. So Levi's a pro pro 996 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 1: and we're riding around, you know, like any kid. You know, 997 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm a youngster, basically on the snowmobile, I feel like 998 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 1: a baby, and I'm just riding. I'm riding it, and 999 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 1: like any kid, you know what you do. You get 1000 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 1: comfortable and you get daring. Soon as you get comfortable, 1001 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 1: you try a little harder, go a little faster, so 1002 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 1: caution to the wind. And then he started going over 1003 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 1: little bumps, start going over little curbs. I was like, 1004 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 1: I can do this. I'm following him, following him. And 1005 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 1: then he went over a big one. I ain't doing that. 1006 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 1: He went over another big one. I ain't doing that. 1007 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 1: He did another big one. Maybe I could do that 1008 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:39,440 Speaker 1: one right, And I did and I landed, stuck, the 1009 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 1: landing gone. And then he was like, oh, so now 1010 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna wramp it up because he's like, look at you. 1011 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 1: And he hit another one and I wish I could 1012 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 1: say I stuck that landing, but I almost got stuck. 1013 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm in the are y'all here, I'll go again, in 1014 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 1: the air again, another accident. I got the war wounds 1015 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 1: to show you. I'm in the air and I land 1016 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:10,919 Speaker 1: on my back back why because I didn't hit the break. 1017 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: I hit the gas thinking it was the break, because 1018 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's my first day ever snowballbiling, That's why. 1019 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 1: And and next thing I know, I'm on my back 1020 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 1: and I look up and the snowmobile is coming straight 1021 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 1: down at me. And I just turned. You know, I 1022 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 1: got on the michelin Man suit and I turned and 1023 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 1: nash no mobile and those those what is it? Those chains? 1024 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,920 Speaker 1: This is eight through all of my clothes and a 1025 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 1: piece of my form. Yeah, nice reporter interview I'm about 1026 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 1: to do. I was like, whoa, and once again, prayers 1027 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,520 Speaker 1: and thoughts man to the family that Kim block, because 1028 01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,200 Speaker 1: I know how dangerous that could be. And he was 1029 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 1: a beast on the snowmobile. But going up that steep 1030 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 1: hill and m hm m hmmm. I don't even want 1031 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 1: to talk about this anymore because I remember how close 1032 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 1: I was for that machine and I don't know how 1033 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 1: much they weighed, but I'm gonna say a ton it 1034 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 1: was coming for me. It was coming for me. Speaking 1035 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 1: of somebody who's saying say the same thing right now, 1036 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,439 Speaker 1: Dana White say that about his wife, she was coming 1037 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 1: for me. She slapped him in Cobbo. Y'all see that 1038 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 1: Dana White fighting his wife. I shouldn't say fighting, I 1039 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: should say she hit him and he hit her back. Who. Wow. 1040 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 1: Remember Danna White and two dollars and fourteen said there's 1041 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 1: one thing that you never bounced back from, and that's 1042 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 1: putting your hands on a woman. Wow. I guess that 1043 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 1: ain't all the way true because it's not two dollars 1044 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 1: and fourteen because Dana White put his hands on her. 1045 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 1: And it's interesting the response or lack thereof to this. 1046 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 1: I wonder why. I think there's some some great lessons 1047 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 1: in here. Once she did slap him first, So anybody, 1048 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 1: even the most feminist lady in the world v feminists, 1049 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 1: her pictures in the dictionary next to the word feminists, 1050 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 1: gotta be like, yeah, she did instigate it. She did started, 1051 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 1: she did slap him like it's clear as day. She 1052 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,920 Speaker 1: slapped him. And there's nothing worse than somebody who fears 1053 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 1: no consequences. Now, in this situation is typically of the time. 1054 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 1: Women ain't no man gonna hit me back, so you 1055 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 1: just tee off on them. Oh, I hate that. No retribution, 1056 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,280 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna what's you gonna do? She you slap me? 1057 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 1: What happened to? Every reaction is met with an equal 1058 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,480 Speaker 1: and opposite reaction, Right, I guess we throw that out 1059 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 1: when we're talking about this, but not Dana White. Yep, 1060 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 1: she slapped them and he gave her. You could tell 1061 01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 1: it was with restraint, but it was still what the hell? Now? 1062 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,440 Speaker 1: This is where I don't like it. They blame it 1063 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 1: on the alcohol. We know alcohol makes us all do 1064 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 1: things we wouldn't normally do. We also know that we 1065 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 1: can't in response to anything, blame it on the alcohol. 1066 01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 1: Jamie Fox told us that long time ago. Right, I 1067 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 1: can't say that. Once he blamed it on the alcohol 1068 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,240 Speaker 1: did to make me think deeper on this. As soon 1069 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,520 Speaker 1: as he said alcohol and use that, I was like, Oh, 1070 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,600 Speaker 1: I've never hit my wife. I've been with thirty years, 1071 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:40,120 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But the alcohol, you know, why have 1072 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 1: you ever had a drink with your wife before? Of course, 1073 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 1: have you ever been drunk with your wife before? Of 1074 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,400 Speaker 1: course you've ever been drunk with your wife before in 1075 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 1: that argument, of course, that's what drunk people do. Now 1076 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 1: you're taking me to places I don't even belong. I 1077 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:59,440 Speaker 1: shouldn't be like they blamed it on alcohol. Just I mean, look, 1078 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 1: we know y'all a drinking is in Kabo on New 1079 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 1: Year's We know y'all drinking. But when he blame it 1080 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 1: on alcohols, like, oh, he's trying to make that the 1081 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:12,360 Speaker 1: comma denominator. Oh without cast, they the comma denominator. And 1082 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 1: how many new more rator than never? Who the hey 1083 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 1: they do a cater to your ego. Watch out, man, 1084 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 1: you made me start imagining this is that I the 1085 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 1: first time and I can't go there. But don't blame 1086 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,720 Speaker 1: it on alcohol. Just say, hey, man, she hit me 1087 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,440 Speaker 1: and I responded, there's more outrage for skip and a 1088 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 1: harmless tweak but bad timing than you smacking your wife 1089 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,560 Speaker 1: back and people try to run with it. White privilege, Nah, 1090 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 1: this ain't white privilege. First of all, white privilege is 1091 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:48,000 Speaker 1: not exclusive. Everyone has privilege. Everyone Black people have privilege. 1092 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,760 Speaker 1: Don't believe me go to the gym with a black person. 1093 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:53,880 Speaker 1: Every time I go to the gym, I got black 1094 01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 1: privilege every time I go to the jam be thinking 1095 01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:02,920 Speaker 1: I am like world class. Oh, Adonis, you know, everyone 1096 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,920 Speaker 1: has privileged in some way. I just don't like when 1097 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,080 Speaker 1: I hear it like it's exclusive. Was it a power 1098 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:13,800 Speaker 1: privilege from Dana White? Like he is the boss? Like 1099 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,160 Speaker 1: it's hard to fire yourself, you know what I mean? 1100 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:24,440 Speaker 1: Like maybe he's just winning because that power privilege. Was 1101 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,720 Speaker 1: he justified and hitting her back? Maybe you'll ain't mad 1102 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,920 Speaker 1: because you're like, yo, she hit him, me hit her? 1103 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 1: Move on, what's the next story? Well, wasn't ray Rice 1104 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,800 Speaker 1: provoked too? But everybody but that ain't the same. And 1105 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 1: y'all right, so let me get off the ray Rice. 1106 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 1: But boy, she went at him first. Two obviously different 1107 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,640 Speaker 1: response by him and by y'all. Let me tell you 1108 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 1: all the time that I was in this predicament. See 1109 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:55,400 Speaker 1: I protected guilty unless it's me. If it's me, oh, 1110 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm about to go there. I was with someone and 1111 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:03,240 Speaker 1: let me protect them. They are guilty of this, and 1112 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:12,200 Speaker 1: we ain't. The are arguing, and she slapped me, and 1113 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 1: I said do it again, because I couldn't believe she 1114 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:19,280 Speaker 1: did it the first time. I said do it again. 1115 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 1: We are three now, y'all counting these colaps. She hit 1116 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 1: me eleven times in the face. And the reason I 1117 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,920 Speaker 1: kept saying do it again, it is because I loved her. 1118 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:37,240 Speaker 1: I wanted her to stop herself. And more importantly, I 1119 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 1: couldn't believe that I was in love with someone who 1120 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 1: knew that there will be no consequence to them and 1121 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 1: will put me in that much of harm's way and 1122 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:53,920 Speaker 1: would hit me that many times, like forget you and 1123 01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 1: you can't do nothing about it? Wow, wow, wow mm hmm. 1124 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 1: Let me get off that story if I get how 1125 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:05,200 Speaker 1: I wanted. Oh, this story right here, this Chris Simms 1126 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 1: story beefing with a social media accountant kind of gets 1127 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 1: me hot, Like it's silly, It's just silly. Let me 1128 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,040 Speaker 1: read this one like a couple of weeks ago. Chris Simms, 1129 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,160 Speaker 1: who I like Chris Sims, He's good on NBC does 1130 01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,400 Speaker 1: just dying. Uh. He was talking about Patrick Mahomes and 1131 01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 1: Josh Allen Joe burrowing them better than Jalen Hurts and 1132 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 1: the m v P. Okay, I can take that, right. 1133 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,479 Speaker 1: You can't say dub but you'd be like, yeah, I 1134 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:34,639 Speaker 1: get you. Um. But then like Sportscenters Instagram page started 1135 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,679 Speaker 1: heckling him and laughing at him because he was like rooting. 1136 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 1: He was like, look, Gardner Minshi could play for the 1137 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:45,680 Speaker 1: Eagles and start and they'll still be good. Whatever. I 1138 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 1: don't know about that, Chris. They ain't go so well, right. 1139 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:53,719 Speaker 1: So then now they kept heckling him, and this dude says, 1140 01:08:54,000 --> 01:09:00,280 Speaker 1: and I quote, what do you say? Oh my god, 1141 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,479 Speaker 1: Jalen Hursts makes them better? I know that, Sims said, 1142 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,360 Speaker 1: should I curse? I don't like cursing? Like I cursed, 1143 01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,040 Speaker 1: but I don't like cursing. You get it. I like, 1144 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,840 Speaker 1: I like to use it sparingly. But hey, this is 1145 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,400 Speaker 1: a podcast, and uh, I like to quote. Fuck you, 1146 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,560 Speaker 1: Chris Sims is cursing at a Instagram account. This is 1147 01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:24,519 Speaker 1: when he wrote, like, this is like Sugar Night version 1148 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,400 Speaker 1: on Graham. Fuck you Sports Center Instagram for put it 1149 01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 1: out there again for the third time in like three weeks. 1150 01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:35,880 Speaker 1: Fuck off, really, funk off. I'm still quoting, y'all. This 1151 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,120 Speaker 1: ain't even me joking. Seriously, they didn't put my quote 1152 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,680 Speaker 1: from after the Cowboys game, but they're gonna wait till 1153 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:50,040 Speaker 1: the game yesterday. Oh god. That literally sounds spoiled. And 1154 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,639 Speaker 1: the problem is it sounds like he's born on third base, 1155 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,400 Speaker 1: which is everybody gonna run too. And I read which 1156 01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,720 Speaker 1: he was, which is a blessing. As you know, I 1157 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,839 Speaker 1: love people bing on third base. That's my kids. Shoot, 1158 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:05,880 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna tell my kids like I'm gonna tell you, 1159 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 1: Chris Sims right now, never go full boring on third base, 1160 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:14,640 Speaker 1: like don't remember, oh God, never go full boring on 1161 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,400 Speaker 1: third base. Don't go full you went full boring on 1162 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 1: third base right there? You need to stop. He kind 1163 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,520 Speaker 1: of profane tirade? Do you go on against the avatar 1164 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:29,799 Speaker 1: and the Instagram accounting like them hit dogs be hollering 1165 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 1: right like that's what that's sounded like, like they got 1166 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,640 Speaker 1: you dog. Don't let them get you. Never let them 1167 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 1: see you sweat. Come on, Chris Sims, you better than that. Like, 1168 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:43,280 Speaker 1: if you talk enough, you're gonna talk yourself into some bullshit, 1169 01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:50,040 Speaker 1: into some problems, into some contradictions, into some hyperbole. Every 1170 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 1: one of us. If you keep talking, if your word 1171 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,240 Speaker 1: count is up there, like Chris Simms word count is, 1172 01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to deal with it. I don't know 1173 01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 1: why he beefing, and I don't know why he mad 1174 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:05,800 Speaker 1: the ground and Sports Center m M hmmm, these kids 1175 01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,400 Speaker 1: raised different. I gotta do better than that, Chris mad 1176 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:14,880 Speaker 1: At the social media account, do better. Let's speaking of 1177 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,880 Speaker 1: an account. Let's talk about an account on account that 1178 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,479 Speaker 1: may have twenty million dollars per year more in it 1179 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:24,519 Speaker 1: in Jim Harball to the Broncos or maybe even more 1180 01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,000 Speaker 1: if Sean Payton gets traded by New Orleans to the Broncos. 1181 01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:33,599 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Jim first, Jim trying to leave Michigan. 1182 01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:35,920 Speaker 1: Probably he trying to play it off like he loves it. 1183 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:41,120 Speaker 1: I see you, I'm coaching she yo. But under he 1184 01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 1: under n C double a investigation, possible multi game suspension, 1185 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:50,639 Speaker 1: impermissible contact with recruits, shouldn't test those recruits, shouldn't talk 1186 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,599 Speaker 1: to those recruits, uh, defensive analysts on the field, which 1187 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,840 Speaker 1: is a violation, and it's a level one violation. He 1188 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 1: gave false or misleading information during the investigation. Basically they 1189 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:10,600 Speaker 1: say any lying he kicking it and lying lying to 1190 01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,320 Speaker 1: kick it as they used to say, right, Ain't that 1191 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,479 Speaker 1: a good reason, great excuse to go to the NFL 1192 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:21,640 Speaker 1: get twenty mill well, Indy, Jim Harball to Indie is 1193 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 1: just too sexy, just too simple, just too precious. Bowl 1194 01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,720 Speaker 1: on it. But Sean Payton in the mix too. You know, 1195 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,040 Speaker 1: Jim Harball is over there dragging his feet or trying 1196 01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:36,000 Speaker 1: to play that Michigan car too much or got some issues. 1197 01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 1: Sean Payton there too, and Sean Payton to Denver, I 1198 01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:44,719 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, Jim Harball is more familiar Russell 1199 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 1: because he had a game planning against him a lot 1200 01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,639 Speaker 1: more from the Seattle for the Niner days. But Sean Payton, 1201 01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:58,479 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, he's been doing it, He's been doing it. 1202 01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,760 Speaker 1: But Sean pay even going there first of all, New 1203 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,960 Speaker 1: Orleans gonna give it up. Then you gotta trade and 1204 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:05,599 Speaker 1: give up a bunch of assets, and then you're gonna 1205 01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 1: have him with Russell's so Wilson, I don't know if 1206 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,640 Speaker 1: Russell still got it. Like I'm really like this is 1207 01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,880 Speaker 1: fast and I feel like a fool, and once again, 1208 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,160 Speaker 1: Chris samc I'm stepping in it right now. I'm a 1209 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,720 Speaker 1: little like a dummy because Russell Wilson's gonna ball next 1210 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,439 Speaker 1: year and I'll be like I gave up on him 1211 01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,840 Speaker 1: too soon. But if I'm Sean Payton, I'm not coming 1212 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,479 Speaker 1: out of retirement and my little cushion job and at 1213 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,400 Speaker 1: Fox and then grabbing Wussell Wilson. I gotta see if 1214 01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:34,200 Speaker 1: he still got it, because there were rumors, there were reports, 1215 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,200 Speaker 1: and there were people saying, hey, Russia, ain't who y'all 1216 01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,240 Speaker 1: think he is on and off the field in Seattle. 1217 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:45,320 Speaker 1: We were warned, we were warned. And now look, oh 1218 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,360 Speaker 1: look what he did in Denver. Not only did he 1219 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,760 Speaker 1: play bad, he and inspired them dudes. He and lead 1220 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,120 Speaker 1: them dudes. I know he tried I Love You, but 1221 01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,320 Speaker 1: damn that looked bad. So I don't know about that. 1222 01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,640 Speaker 1: I can't say that that performance are horrible. So if 1223 01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm Sean Pagne, I ain't going there because that dude 1224 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,799 Speaker 1: need to perform. Speaking of people need to perform recording 1225 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 1: to a con uh, Black Americans need to perform better 1226 01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:18,760 Speaker 1: because Africans are more talented and better performers. Who oh man, 1227 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,680 Speaker 1: that's a good one. I know what he's saying, though 1228 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 1: he basically could playing like rappers, you know that the 1229 01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:29,280 Speaker 1: whole rap genre of performance, Like you know, I'm a 1230 01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,880 Speaker 1: sag yo yo yo check it no sound check, no 1231 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 1: mic check, no background dancers, just yo yo. He's saying 1232 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:43,160 Speaker 1: them versus kids off TikTok and and people that we 1233 01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,599 Speaker 1: see all the time doing all those big collection dances, 1234 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,760 Speaker 1: and in Africa, he's like, it's in our blood, it's 1235 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:54,280 Speaker 1: in our energy, it's in our culture. The thing that 1236 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,120 Speaker 1: stuck out about this story a couple of things. Actually. 1237 01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:01,280 Speaker 1: One a con was born in St. Louis, raised in 1238 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:06,040 Speaker 1: New Jersey, attended college in Atlanta, So he's really first 1239 01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:10,760 Speaker 1: generation African. And if he were white, e B American, 1240 01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, they would be calling him American, just like 1241 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:19,599 Speaker 1: they do for white people, right, like Larry King, that's 1242 01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:24,680 Speaker 1: all this, Frank Sinatra, Walt Disney, first generation white Americans. 1243 01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:29,519 Speaker 1: So when you're a first generation black American, you're African, 1244 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,880 Speaker 1: y'all catch that, y'all will y'all will walk with me here. 1245 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 1: So that was interesting because it's like he's talking about 1246 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,759 Speaker 1: black people, but you're black, but you're not black because 1247 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,679 Speaker 1: you're African. But then if you were white, you'd be American. Boy, 1248 01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:48,560 Speaker 1: I just get y'all tongue twister and a logical pretzel. 1249 01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,000 Speaker 1: But a kind doesn't have a point. I mean, if 1250 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:58,040 Speaker 1: you compare things that shouldn't be compared, you can always 1251 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,960 Speaker 1: have a point. You know. That's like me, I could 1252 01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,559 Speaker 1: compare like some of the best basketball players and say, oh, 1253 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,920 Speaker 1: they're not as tough as some of the best football players. Well, 1254 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:11,600 Speaker 1: they're doing something different. Rappers are not Chris Browning like 1255 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Some may hammer. Outside of hammer, 1256 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:20,599 Speaker 1: who else is Missy? You got like four the rest 1257 01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,800 Speaker 1: of them. Man, they're just trying to make sure they 1258 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:24,439 Speaker 1: get from one end of the stage to the other 1259 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,000 Speaker 1: end of the stage without scuffing up their teams. Why 1260 01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,519 Speaker 1: you're mad at them? So a con just went there 1261 01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:34,439 Speaker 1: on them, and he's been popping off lately. We're gonna 1262 01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 1: have to get a little deep dive on a con 1263 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,840 Speaker 1: right now because he makes some points in terms of 1264 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,519 Speaker 1: the culture. The cultural difference is what it's that? Where 1265 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,640 Speaker 1: it is that? I should say, what is that? And 1266 01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,679 Speaker 1: where it's that? Because it reminds me like I chose, 1267 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:55,559 Speaker 1: I chose Nigerian and his first generation Nigerian American, right, 1268 01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,240 Speaker 1: and he's different than me. What you always called me 1269 01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:04,360 Speaker 1: off guard is one thing I didn't like conversations, uncomfortable 1270 01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:10,400 Speaker 1: conversations with a black man. But then your first generation 1271 01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,439 Speaker 1: which ain't me, that ain't you, ain't slash and Chris Shaw, 1272 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:20,080 Speaker 1: you're not even American. Oh you are, but you're not black. 1273 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,040 Speaker 1: Oh you are, But then a con says you're not 1274 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,280 Speaker 1: you're African. So which way is it? You see all 1275 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:30,559 Speaker 1: this twist? Who? So I used to get caught off 1276 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,600 Speaker 1: because I'm like a con is telling me what I 1277 01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:37,880 Speaker 1: felt was right, what I know is right. There's a 1278 01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:41,160 Speaker 1: difference because the culture is different. Like, you know, you 1279 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:45,479 Speaker 1: meet somebody's who's first generation African, but the first generation 1280 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:49,280 Speaker 1: American from Africa, their parents ain't my parents. We were 1281 01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:54,600 Speaker 1: subscribed to some different sets of standards and rules, thoughts, opinions, 1282 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,439 Speaker 1: and actions. Just that simple. So yeah, a CON's right. 1283 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,400 Speaker 1: I don't know about at her. They're just different. He 1284 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,080 Speaker 1: took the hypest form of dance for African and then 1285 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,400 Speaker 1: try to make the Black American feel bad with one 1286 01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:11,360 Speaker 1: of the low five forms in terms of dance and 1287 01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,760 Speaker 1: performance art. But we're gonna get into that one another time, 1288 01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,479 Speaker 1: trust me. But right now we're gonna get into something else. 1289 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:21,360 Speaker 1: Tell me about dancing. M hm, this ain't the dance 1290 01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,760 Speaker 1: you want to do. This is not the dance you 1291 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:24,880 Speaker 1: want to do. I gott talk about one of my 1292 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,479 Speaker 1: home girls. I haven't seen her in so long. Maybe 1293 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,280 Speaker 1: she's not my home girl anymore, but I still love her. 1294 01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:36,960 Speaker 1: Um Hey, Gaps, Gabrielle Union, let's get there. I met 1295 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:41,280 Speaker 1: Gap when she was dating one of my teammates. And 1296 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if a lot of people know about this, 1297 01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,760 Speaker 1: so I'm not about to say it, but that's when 1298 01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:49,040 Speaker 1: I met her, um way back, way back, super cool. 1299 01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,760 Speaker 1: She from l A. I'm out there playing and then 1300 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,439 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you know, I gotta protect the guilty, 1301 01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,200 Speaker 1: so let me dance around this a little bit. And 1302 01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,120 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, so you l A girl, l 1303 01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,280 Speaker 1: A dude. We just stayed in touch over the years, um, 1304 01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:05,080 Speaker 1: and I should hang with her and her home girls. Lord, 1305 01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:09,439 Speaker 1: she had a fine crew. Yes she did it. M hmm, 1306 01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,920 Speaker 1: let me stop. Um. So we all used to kick it, 1307 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,920 Speaker 1: went to Kentucky Derby together, all this stuff. We kick 1308 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,719 Speaker 1: it for real. But she came out and said this quote. 1309 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:23,160 Speaker 1: I just felt entitled to it as well, talking about 1310 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:27,599 Speaker 1: her cheating on her first husband, who I knew as well, 1311 01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:32,040 Speaker 1: my dog Chris Chris Howard play ball in Michigan. Right. 1312 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,080 Speaker 1: She was like, I was paying on the bills like 1313 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,280 Speaker 1: my dad before me. Whoever has the most gets to 1314 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:41,200 Speaker 1: do whatever the hell they want. She said, I definitely 1315 01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,120 Speaker 1: wasn't getting wife of the Year awards in my first marriage. 1316 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,160 Speaker 1: Neither one of us felt like the marriage. She getting 1317 01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:53,200 Speaker 1: away of our Dayton talking about testing the testies. You 1318 01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,439 Speaker 1: know how emasculating that has to feel if you Chris 1319 01:19:56,560 --> 01:20:00,960 Speaker 1: Howard to read that, and worse, how badass to feel 1320 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:04,120 Speaker 1: if you're Dwyane Wade, Like I think of Dwyane Wade 1321 01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:11,200 Speaker 1: because your next is always going to cross reference your ex, 1322 01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 1: right and and then you gotta think like I dated 1323 01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,360 Speaker 1: a girl before he told me she's the cheat, cheat, cheat, 1324 01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,000 Speaker 1: cheat cheat on her x x x x x X, 1325 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,680 Speaker 1: and I used to doubt every time she used to 1326 01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,640 Speaker 1: tell me she was just chilling. I'll be like, nah, yo, 1327 01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,240 Speaker 1: ask you know how to do this. You're a pro 1328 01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,559 Speaker 1: at this. Your next is always gonna cross reference your 1329 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,080 Speaker 1: X and if your next is your now, he really 1330 01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,880 Speaker 1: gonna do it because he's like, I'm the one dealing 1331 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,200 Speaker 1: with this cross cross fire right now. I'm in the 1332 01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:43,519 Speaker 1: pain process right now. If I don't know you over 1333 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,519 Speaker 1: there sniping me right now because you didn't say this 1334 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,800 Speaker 1: to Chris when you're with him, y'all got divorced and 1335 01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,400 Speaker 1: oh six let me do some quick math and carry 1336 01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,160 Speaker 1: the one. I mean, you know that's seventeen years ago, 1337 01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,200 Speaker 1: So seventeen years from now, we're gonna hear about you 1338 01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:01,439 Speaker 1: and Dwyane Wade something. Hopefully y'all still married. I ain't 1339 01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:05,000 Speaker 1: wishing no ill, but um, I mean, I'm doing this 1340 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,120 Speaker 1: podcast and I ain't trying to get nobody twisted like that. 1341 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:12,880 Speaker 1: That hurts you cut my feet off. You're talking about 1342 01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:18,760 Speaker 1: what you cheated on me like that, like and I 1343 01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,040 Speaker 1: wasn't proud of it, but wasn't hurt by it, So 1344 01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,760 Speaker 1: that almost sounds like you were proud. I can hear 1345 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:29,400 Speaker 1: my grandma, now, Grandma Blackie saying, boy, don't let your 1346 01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,720 Speaker 1: left hand know what your right hand is doing. Some 1347 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:35,280 Speaker 1: things you gotta keep to yourself. That's one of them. 1348 01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,760 Speaker 1: Please keep that to yourself. You must be on one 1349 01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:43,880 Speaker 1: and speaking of people on one who people will go 1350 01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,120 Speaker 1: out there and get these d u y s. We 1351 01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,000 Speaker 1: need to stop worrying about what happens in the d 1352 01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,960 Speaker 1: u y and start really coming down hard on those 1353 01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:54,880 Speaker 1: who get the d u y. You want to know why, 1354 01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,719 Speaker 1: because I just read this story in Tennessee. To anyone 1355 01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:02,080 Speaker 1: who kills a parent while drunk driving will be required 1356 01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:06,400 Speaker 1: to pay child support. We need to set up greater 1357 01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:10,720 Speaker 1: deterrence for d u I s. Greater deterrence. Look, it 1358 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,519 Speaker 1: ain't no fun right now getting a d u I, 1359 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:16,120 Speaker 1: but certainly greater ones because nobody wants somebody to kill 1360 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,959 Speaker 1: somebody is certainly a parent. But you hear that Tennessee, 1361 01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,960 Speaker 1: State of Tennessee, anyone who kills a parent while drunk 1362 01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:26,640 Speaker 1: driving will be required to pay child support. That's what 1363 01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, a greater deterrent. It's a great law 1364 01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,439 Speaker 1: right there. Being real, I remember the CHP California Highway 1365 01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,800 Speaker 1: to patrol. They came to the chargers and they said, um, 1366 01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,880 Speaker 1: we want you to put these goggles on, and we 1367 01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,400 Speaker 1: put them on. The call them drunk goggles, and they said, 1368 01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,840 Speaker 1: if you've ever been in a car driving and your 1369 01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:50,720 Speaker 1: vision looked like this, you've been impaired, hands up in 1370 01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,080 Speaker 1: the air, yep. And I'm not proud, but boy, I 1371 01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,559 Speaker 1: was like, oh that was that was a life lesson. 1372 01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,840 Speaker 1: I was like, that doesn't look drunk to me. And 1373 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,280 Speaker 1: it was like if you had a breathalizer right then 1374 01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:07,240 Speaker 1: you're rolling the dice. So it's crazy because everybody's in 1375 01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:11,800 Speaker 1: the negotiation with their sobriety level, they're intoxication level. Come on, 1376 01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,760 Speaker 1: stop lying, y'all. And this is what he told me. 1377 01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:21,320 Speaker 1: He said, if you're gonna have one drink, get an uber, 1378 01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:25,799 Speaker 1: you're gonna get one drink, get a cab. Why because 1379 01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:29,360 Speaker 1: every decision you make after that is an intoxicated decision. 1380 01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:31,920 Speaker 1: And I didn't take that at the heart. I ain't 1381 01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,479 Speaker 1: gonna lie to y'all. I still used to get my 1382 01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,760 Speaker 1: drunk on my staring gong and still say I'm good. 1383 01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,840 Speaker 1: But there was one night I wasn't. One night I 1384 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:48,479 Speaker 1: wasn't good. I got pulled over. I remember having three 1385 01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:53,000 Speaker 1: now that's remember. But it was over dinner and then 1386 01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,840 Speaker 1: we went to the second spot. I was good, but 1387 01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:02,479 Speaker 1: they but I was good. And then I remember getting 1388 01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,320 Speaker 1: pulled over. Who Ain't nothing worse than seeing that the 1389 01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:10,080 Speaker 1: American flag and lights and in visuals red white and blue? 1390 01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:13,400 Speaker 1: Who what? What? What? I saw that flag bright as hell. 1391 01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,320 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa? The red, white and blue. 1392 01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,960 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, don And I mean, you'd be 1393 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,240 Speaker 1: thinking to everything you've be thinking. I'm outrace these dudes. 1394 01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna drive under a freeway underpath and be like 1395 01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,240 Speaker 1: not ain't an work? Set it off film the end 1396 01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:27,560 Speaker 1: to set it off again with ain't gona work like 1397 01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:29,800 Speaker 1: damn women do when they pull you over. I'm tending 1398 01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:33,519 Speaker 1: too with the hands. I rolled down the windows, music off. 1399 01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,719 Speaker 1: I'm just come on, I ain't trying. I ain't trying, 1400 01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,559 Speaker 1: y'all because I'm trying to get home. And I went 1401 01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:45,120 Speaker 1: through the whole process, you know, sir, licensed registration. Oh, 1402 01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm good, okay, And they take forever when they got 1403 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,599 Speaker 1: to go check that out. Y'all need to update y'all WiFi, 1404 01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:54,479 Speaker 1: y'all system that ship slow like police just be chilling. 1405 01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,760 Speaker 1: Damn how long I tell you to say, Oh, he's 1406 01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,800 Speaker 1: a criminal or he's not, he got a warrant, or 1407 01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't like what y'all looking for? Did I ever 1408 01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:06,280 Speaker 1: sell girls scott cookies with the hell texts along? Oh? 1409 01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,840 Speaker 1: And you've been sitting there like dog man, you were 1410 01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:11,599 Speaker 1: like you think of stuff you ain't haven't even done. 1411 01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,080 Speaker 1: You'd be like, yo, they're gonna find out I ain't 1412 01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:16,280 Speaker 1: even done that. I'm gonna get arrested for something I 1413 01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:20,360 Speaker 1: never did. And then they come back, sir, you got 1414 01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,559 Speaker 1: two things either sir, here you know they're gonna hitting 1415 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,640 Speaker 1: you the ticket and your license of registration or a 1416 01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,880 Speaker 1: lot of times it's happened to me, you know, my 1417 01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,560 Speaker 1: black privilege. Uh, they just let me off, you know, 1418 01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,720 Speaker 1: fans and stuff. I ain't got a lot of y'all. 1419 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,640 Speaker 1: But what about this dude didn't do either one of 1420 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:39,439 Speaker 1: those this time? He was like, sir, can you step 1421 01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:44,560 Speaker 1: outside the car? M hm oh certainly, oh, certainly. You 1422 01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,640 Speaker 1: know you do the whole combine tests and you know, 1423 01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:50,960 Speaker 1: touch your nose and all that alphabet backwards? Did it? 1424 01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,519 Speaker 1: Did it? Did it? I'm like, dog, i went to 1425 01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:56,679 Speaker 1: the real combine in Indianapolis. I'm going pass this test, 1426 01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:01,479 Speaker 1: and I did. But must be like in their code 1427 01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,640 Speaker 1: that if they give you that test, then you have 1428 01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,680 Speaker 1: to blow and do a breathtalizer unless you say you 1429 01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,000 Speaker 1: are not, then they take you to jail because you 1430 01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,639 Speaker 1: didn't take the breathalyzer, which I'm never doing. So I'm like, nope, 1431 01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:15,719 Speaker 1: you ain't taking me to jail for no reason because 1432 01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,639 Speaker 1: I know I ain't drunk, but I had to growing 1433 01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:23,800 Speaker 1: up breathtalizer and I tried my damnness to blow falsely 1434 01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,360 Speaker 1: like in some I didn't want to blow fully into it. 1435 01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,200 Speaker 1: So if you've ever done a breathtalizer you put in 1436 01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,080 Speaker 1: your mouth, and I think it was a cop or 1437 01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,880 Speaker 1: one of my homeboys, two different things. He was like, 1438 01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,720 Speaker 1: blow into it, but not all the way into it. 1439 01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,120 Speaker 1: I was like, huh. So I kept trying that, and 1440 01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,320 Speaker 1: the police was starting to get frustrated, like, sir, you 1441 01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,000 Speaker 1: have to blow hard into it. So I wasn't giving 1442 01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:48,840 Speaker 1: it enough pressure. So then I remember, you blow to 1443 01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:52,200 Speaker 1: the side. This is some old ghetto like jinsen. This 1444 01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,640 Speaker 1: is some old ghetto like rigging. This had nothing to 1445 01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,280 Speaker 1: do with it. But I blew, and I was blowing 1446 01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,360 Speaker 1: sideways out blew and I was blowing low and I 1447 01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:05,400 Speaker 1: was like and finally I gotta read guess what I blew? 1448 01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:11,840 Speaker 1: Now in California point oh wait? Right, I blew a 1449 01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:17,280 Speaker 1: point oh seven. Life changing. I was like, oh, you're 1450 01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:21,200 Speaker 1: doing too much, doing too much. I couldn't believe it, 1451 01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,280 Speaker 1: And of course I didn't get arrested. Cop was like 1452 01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,760 Speaker 1: one more drink, brother, you would have been you have 1453 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:30,920 Speaker 1: been in the handcuffs. I was like, what, my big gass. 1454 01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,080 Speaker 1: But the point of it is, as we know, don't 1455 01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:38,920 Speaker 1: play around like that, you're playing with fire. I mean 1456 01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:44,080 Speaker 1: it's seriously, you have one drink, you will not think 1457 01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:49,240 Speaker 1: ever again in a sober mindset. So if you have 1458 01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,280 Speaker 1: one drink, know that every decision you make after that, 1459 01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:58,240 Speaker 1: you are intoxicated. So if you're going to drink, don't drive. 1460 01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:06,200 Speaker 1: Simple ps A message. Let's talk about playing around. And 1461 01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:09,120 Speaker 1: it got real. I don't know what to read this 1462 01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:13,719 Speaker 1: story because it just broke. A six year old shooter 1463 01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:19,160 Speaker 1: is in custody after shooting his teacher. WHOA, I'm not 1464 01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:23,200 Speaker 1: gonna stay on this one long. What is going on 1465 01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:28,240 Speaker 1: in our world? What is going on our world? A 1466 01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:34,040 Speaker 1: first grader shot his teacher? Now I told you all 1467 01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,759 Speaker 1: the story lasts was that last week that I shot 1468 01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,800 Speaker 1: my teacher and would be begun in the twelfth grade? 1469 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:45,679 Speaker 1: So who am I? I wasn't six. Do you blame 1470 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:50,320 Speaker 1: the parents, of course to some degree, but to what degree? Like, 1471 01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:52,479 Speaker 1: I know, the parents are not raising the kid to 1472 01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:55,960 Speaker 1: shoot teachers? How did the kid get the gun? And 1473 01:28:56,120 --> 01:29:00,960 Speaker 1: they said, what's crazy is that the student and the 1474 01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:05,320 Speaker 1: teacher knew each other beyond the classroom environment. What the 1475 01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,880 Speaker 1: hell is going on here? The mayor came out and said, 1476 01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,960 Speaker 1: they're working to get an answer to all the questions 1477 01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:16,599 Speaker 1: that everyone has, especially how did this happen? Peepe? This one? Though, 1478 01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:18,920 Speaker 1: this one called me off guard, even though it's real. 1479 01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,720 Speaker 1: Even though I should respect it, I don't, and I 1480 01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:25,759 Speaker 1: know I should. Quote. We are also working to ensure 1481 01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:29,280 Speaker 1: the child receives the supports and services he needs as 1482 01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:35,240 Speaker 1: we continue to process what took place. See that feels 1483 01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:39,320 Speaker 1: like pandering. Y'all got a six year old, So y'all 1484 01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:40,920 Speaker 1: like we gotta take care of the six year old. 1485 01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't try them as an adult at six, 1486 01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:49,680 Speaker 1: But y'all are what trying to make sure he receives 1487 01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:54,040 Speaker 1: the supports and services he needs as we continue to 1488 01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:58,160 Speaker 1: process what took place. It's almost like if he were 1489 01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:02,759 Speaker 1: not six, would you ensure that they received the supports 1490 01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:08,479 Speaker 1: and services they need? Uh? So now we're talking when 1491 01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:14,760 Speaker 1: does your actions and then when does your age? And 1492 01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:17,200 Speaker 1: then when do you put them both together in terms 1493 01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:22,080 Speaker 1: of how you respond to both of them in consequence? Oh, 1494 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:25,640 Speaker 1: you you shot somebody, you potentially kill somebody. Oh but 1495 01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:27,479 Speaker 1: you're only six. Oh it's all good. Let me make 1496 01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:31,920 Speaker 1: sure you're okay, huh. Versus if you're sixteen and you 1497 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,360 Speaker 1: do the same thing. Oh Trium. As an adult, I 1498 01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:39,439 Speaker 1: just caught that, like no one has ever fathomed a 1499 01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:42,719 Speaker 1: six year old is shooting his teacher. And I'm certain 1500 01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:44,760 Speaker 1: in this world because my dad used to always say, boy, 1501 01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:46,920 Speaker 1: no matter what you think of and heard of, it's 1502 01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:50,559 Speaker 1: happened before. What King Solomon say, nothing new under the sun. 1503 01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:56,840 Speaker 1: Maybe it's happened before, But damn you guys gonna hear 1504 01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,240 Speaker 1: a lot about an organization that I'm a part of 1505 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:06,760 Speaker 1: called Argo Alliance for a Responsible Gun Ownership. That's all 1506 01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. But I'm coming right to this story, 1507 01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:15,719 Speaker 1: right to these type of stories to create a smarter, 1508 01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:19,800 Speaker 1: safer gun culture in our country because guns are not 1509 01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:25,360 Speaker 1: going anywhere. Guns don't kill people. People kill people with guns. 1510 01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,000 Speaker 1: You put a gun on the table right now, it 1511 01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:33,320 Speaker 1: ain't gonna do jack. Nobody dying. It takes you and 1512 01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:38,680 Speaker 1: until well, we're accountable and responsible like that, until we 1513 01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,439 Speaker 1: look at it through the proper lens and framework, we're 1514 01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:43,680 Speaker 1: not going to be as accountable and responsible as we 1515 01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:47,960 Speaker 1: should be because we're blaming inanimate objects, were blaming metal. 1516 01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,200 Speaker 1: Leave it there, y'all, look out for this six year 1517 01:31:54,240 --> 01:32:01,360 Speaker 1: old six year old shooting his teacher. Can't make any 1518 01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:07,040 Speaker 1: sense of that at all. Ah, speaking of something that 1519 01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:13,040 Speaker 1: didn't make sense, Let's talk about you guys. Ever heard 1520 01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:17,400 Speaker 1: I don't know for all my listeners who not California residents, 1521 01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:18,880 Speaker 1: since y'all know I live on the west side of 1522 01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:23,080 Speaker 1: the Best Side, I mean, I mean you guys. Ever 1523 01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:28,799 Speaker 1: heard of Bruce's Beach? Yeah? And imminent Domain took Bruce's 1524 01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:33,400 Speaker 1: Beach from some black family way back and like nineteen 1525 01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:37,479 Speaker 1: twelve or something. They paid twelve hundred bucks for ocean 1526 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:41,000 Speaker 1: front land and Mahttan Beach where I used to live. 1527 01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:46,519 Speaker 1: I lived directly across from Bruce's Beach. How crazy is that? Right? 1528 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't live the life, y'all. Trust me, my podcast 1529 01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,280 Speaker 1: ain't on every end because everything that happens, I'm like, yep, 1530 01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:54,360 Speaker 1: been through it, or yep, I know somebody's been through it. 1531 01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:57,519 Speaker 1: The yep I heard about it? Crazy? Well, I lived 1532 01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:00,799 Speaker 1: right across the street from this, and and it's crazy 1533 01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,200 Speaker 1: because now they gave it back. They sold it to 1534 01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:07,120 Speaker 1: the family. They're gonna get twenty million dollars. The family 1535 01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:12,320 Speaker 1: is for breach the beachfront property that they lost during 1536 01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:19,200 Speaker 1: Jim Crow million. Now, listen, they lost it during Jim Crow. 1537 01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,280 Speaker 1: If they would have been able to hold onto it 1538 01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:24,640 Speaker 1: for all this time, do you know how much they 1539 01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,360 Speaker 1: would have had, you know, I mean millionaires? They would 1540 01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:33,320 Speaker 1: have made m hmm, that's crazy, right. I used to 1541 01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:34,920 Speaker 1: work out there too. I used to run up and 1542 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:38,120 Speaker 1: down that hill all the time. It strand I used 1543 01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:42,960 Speaker 1: to live. Yep, they got twenty million dollars. I don't 1544 01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,360 Speaker 1: know if that's the right amount. I mean, look, you 1545 01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:46,920 Speaker 1: go over there right now and get a baby condo 1546 01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:50,200 Speaker 1: for twenty million dollars. I remember all looking for houses 1547 01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:53,360 Speaker 1: and man, god dog, how much y'all charging for a 1548 01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:59,760 Speaker 1: square foot a million ship? We're crazy, but good for them, uh. 1549 01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:05,639 Speaker 1: Governor Gavin Newsom last year the big ceremony said, look, 1550 01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:09,240 Speaker 1: they they certainly politics for this one, and I think 1551 01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:12,640 Speaker 1: this was a good intention and this was actually with 1552 01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:16,960 Speaker 1: a good result. Um. But it's the first one. This 1553 01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:22,200 Speaker 1: is the first property that's ever been returned that was 1554 01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:27,519 Speaker 1: wrongfully taken from a family of African Americans. Look at that. Now. 1555 01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:29,439 Speaker 1: The question is is going to be the last one? 1556 01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:33,479 Speaker 1: And it's not just gonna be African Americans, because obviously 1557 01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:37,800 Speaker 1: President has been set. We'll see how that goes. We'll 1558 01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:41,840 Speaker 1: see what comes from that. And my last story. I 1559 01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,840 Speaker 1: know y'all want to see what comes from me and 1560 01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:47,360 Speaker 1: my big announcement this week. Yeah, you thought I were 1561 01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:52,320 Speaker 1: gonna talk about it Brings TV Brinks dot TV. Yes, 1562 01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:57,519 Speaker 1: I am a partner on the network, in the network 1563 01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:02,439 Speaker 1: of Brinks TV. Let's talk about what this is. I 1564 01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:06,920 Speaker 1: gotta watch my first episode on Wednesday. Download the app 1565 01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:11,200 Speaker 1: right now, Brings TV. Download the app. It's next level technology. 1566 01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:14,160 Speaker 1: So long story short, because I'm gonna save a lot 1567 01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:17,400 Speaker 1: of this for when I do the show. John Brinkis 1568 01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,360 Speaker 1: hits me up in the middle of my negotiations with Fox. 1569 01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:23,160 Speaker 1: See this what people don't know? People like, why are 1570 01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:27,640 Speaker 1: you walk away from the show? There are reasons? Reason 1571 01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:35,160 Speaker 1: is here, right, And he gives me a demo of 1572 01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:43,439 Speaker 1: this technology, content, community, commerce, one screen. I'm like, He 1573 01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:47,599 Speaker 1: shows me the visuals, the technology. It looks better than 1574 01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:53,160 Speaker 1: normal broadcasts visuals and network TV. No law y'all gonna see. 1575 01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,000 Speaker 1: And I was like, you mean I get to interact 1576 01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:58,439 Speaker 1: my people. I could do a show not just what 1577 01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,760 Speaker 1: a co host, but with the end higher world and 1578 01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:04,599 Speaker 1: bring you guys on the actual show in the moment, 1579 01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:12,240 Speaker 1: live and we do the show together. Wait a minute, 1580 01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:18,479 Speaker 1: So I'm like, damn, but you fast forward. Man, it's 1581 01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:22,160 Speaker 1: been months, like five months, four yeah, like four or 1582 01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:26,080 Speaker 1: five months, then sitting on it, just working behind the scenes, 1583 01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:29,640 Speaker 1: figuring it out, and now we're gonna launch Never Shut Up. 1584 01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:34,760 Speaker 1: Because I'm really big into two things. Either you're gonna 1585 01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:39,720 Speaker 1: learn or you're gonna unlearn. Learn or unlearned. That means 1586 01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:43,040 Speaker 1: either we're gonna talk through this till we gain greater knowledge, 1587 01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:45,760 Speaker 1: or we're gonna talk through this and we're gonna drop 1588 01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:48,280 Speaker 1: some of that bullshit. We're gonna drop some of that 1589 01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:50,360 Speaker 1: bs that we learned that we know we need to 1590 01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:55,600 Speaker 1: let go some of them generational curses. Right. So I 1591 01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:59,479 Speaker 1: have a show came on Never Shut Up, just like 1592 01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:03,559 Speaker 1: my book Never Shut Up, and it's under the umbrella 1593 01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:07,280 Speaker 1: of Never Shut Up University. I'm basically gonna do a 1594 01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:11,200 Speaker 1: bunch of shows, a bunch of content under Never Shut 1595 01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:14,800 Speaker 1: Up University. We're going back to school, y'all to learn 1596 01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:20,200 Speaker 1: or unlearn together. I'm no higher, no lower than you together. 1597 01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:26,800 Speaker 1: Never shut Up University School of Thought, y'all catch that. 1598 01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:31,640 Speaker 1: Never Shut Up University school of thought, because life is 1599 01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:35,280 Speaker 1: a competition between you and yourself. Boy who We're about 1600 01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:39,040 Speaker 1: to have some fun. So y'all download Brinks TV. The 1601 01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:42,360 Speaker 1: app is next level. They got Ray Lewis on there 1602 01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:46,120 Speaker 1: right now, LaVar Arrington's on there right now. N I 1603 01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,759 Speaker 1: L House is doing amazing. Um it's coming. I actually 1604 01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:56,120 Speaker 1: gotta fly to Atlanta for our big national Championship watch party. Yep. 1605 01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:59,920 Speaker 1: And let's call it what it is, uh the debut. 1606 01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:03,640 Speaker 1: You have never shut up? Marsalls Wally? Did I just 1607 01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:07,920 Speaker 1: say my name? Oh? I'm getting ego to Okay, it's 1608 01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:12,559 Speaker 1: time for ticky time. Stop ticky time. What's your favorite 1609 01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:17,920 Speaker 1: sport and what's your favorite player? Favorite sport is track 1610 01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:21,320 Speaker 1: of field? Why y'all know me? Because it's the first sport, 1611 01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:25,160 Speaker 1: the purest, purest sport. You ain't gotta worry about coach, 1612 01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:27,559 Speaker 1: ain't worry about plays, call, You ain't gotta worry about. Oh, 1613 01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:32,880 Speaker 1: got bad teammates? And you run track? How fast are 1614 01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:36,040 Speaker 1: you don't? Oh? What was your time? You come in 1615 01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:38,920 Speaker 1: the stands after attract me? Nobody want to hear nothing. 1616 01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:41,679 Speaker 1: I used to go in the stands after the track 1617 01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:44,960 Speaker 1: versus after football. It's a whole different animal. You lose 1618 01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:47,439 Speaker 1: the game in football, you're going to stand. You're like, man, 1619 01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:52,439 Speaker 1: we should have ran the ball more, dude, man our 1620 01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:56,360 Speaker 1: quarterback sub dog. You going the stands after you're losing track, 1621 01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:03,080 Speaker 1: They like they just looking at you, like, damn, it's 1622 01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:05,840 Speaker 1: just that simp when I love that Keeping one hunted 1623 01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:09,799 Speaker 1: now baby. So my favorite sports track and my favorite players. 1624 01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:11,880 Speaker 1: Carl Lewis, even though he dissed me when I was 1625 01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:13,880 Speaker 1: nine years old when I went up to him while 1626 01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:15,560 Speaker 1: he was warming up in Mount Sack and he was 1627 01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:18,960 Speaker 1: like a little kid, but he made it up to me. 1628 01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:22,000 Speaker 1: He came to one of my parties and he was like, damn. 1629 01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:24,080 Speaker 1: I told him the story and he was like, damn, 1630 01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,640 Speaker 1: you made it. I should have been nicer to you. 1631 01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:29,200 Speaker 1: You are nine and I still got them bottles and everything. 1632 01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:33,479 Speaker 1: Because Carl Lewis. I gotta hook him up. That dude. Oh, 1633 01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:36,800 Speaker 1: he was a living legend. Love that dude. It's time 1634 01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:40,280 Speaker 1: for hashtag asked that dude, do you have a play 1635 01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:42,960 Speaker 1: that you made that was most memorable to you? M 1636 01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:48,360 Speaker 1: I love the podcast and selfishly I need more episodes. 1637 01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:52,200 Speaker 1: Oh you are being selfish, boy. I talked so long 1638 01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:54,760 Speaker 1: on this thing. It's enough to lash y'all all week. 1639 01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:56,439 Speaker 1: I'm trying to give y'all so much meat on the 1640 01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:58,599 Speaker 1: bone that I don't have to do two or three 1641 01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:00,240 Speaker 1: of them. I just do one a week. All like, 1642 01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:02,479 Speaker 1: just go back to the clips, keep going back. Y'all 1643 01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:05,519 Speaker 1: ain't gonna finish this in one sitting. Psych I'm so 1644 01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:09,320 Speaker 1: entertaining at the dying that y'all are gonna finish it 1645 01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:13,320 Speaker 1: in one episode. But point being, let me answer this 1646 01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:17,559 Speaker 1: dude's question. Uh, do I have a play that's most 1647 01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:21,600 Speaker 1: memorable to me? Actually, yeah, and it's close. There's another one, 1648 01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:24,920 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say that story. I tackled Barry Sanders 1649 01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:28,519 Speaker 1: by myself, and I think it was my rookie year, 1650 01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:30,080 Speaker 1: if not my second year, I think it was my 1651 01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:33,640 Speaker 1: rookie year. And I got a big gass poster, like 1652 01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:36,200 Speaker 1: I got a fat head of it. It's the biggest poster. 1653 01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,080 Speaker 1: My grandmother was so proud, and she didn't know what 1654 01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,600 Speaker 1: I did. She just was so excited because I was 1655 01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:43,960 Speaker 1: so excited. She's like, we'll make a poster of it. 1656 01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:49,000 Speaker 1: I put it up because Barry came. He was going 1657 01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:52,639 Speaker 1: off tackle. I was playing right defensive end, I shared 1658 01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:57,240 Speaker 1: the offensive tackle, and I'm running like Frankenstein at Barry 1659 01:40:57,320 --> 01:41:00,200 Speaker 1: Sanders because I had to get my arms while right, 1660 01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,080 Speaker 1: I had to cover up the most mass in space 1661 01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:07,479 Speaker 1: in the most spatial area because I was like, he 1662 01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,400 Speaker 1: gonna shake me. I gotta get him in the phone booth, 1663 01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:12,960 Speaker 1: even in the phone booth. He's too dangerous. He and 1664 01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, he still shook me. But I tackled him. 1665 01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:20,200 Speaker 1: And then when I tackled him, I slightly sprained my 1666 01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:24,040 Speaker 1: ankle and that was just like poetic. I like this 1667 01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:28,240 Speaker 1: dude so good. He's sprained ankles for real. But I 1668 01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:31,200 Speaker 1: gotta poster of y'all can google it somewhere. Maybe he'll 1669 01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:36,320 Speaker 1: pop up. Marcellus Wally Barry Sanders. Amazing image still in 1670 01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:39,360 Speaker 1: print on my heart. Time for will he is um oh, 1671 01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:45,160 Speaker 1: while he is n't for this episode is a consistent 1672 01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:48,720 Speaker 1: good beats, an inconsistent and great Who I like it? 1673 01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:50,360 Speaker 1: I like it? I like it. I like it. A 1674 01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:57,160 Speaker 1: consistent good beats, an inconsistent great m hm. You ever 1675 01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:00,160 Speaker 1: heard of coach say this? They talk about big games 1676 01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:04,760 Speaker 1: and stuff. They always say, hey, man, it's not how 1677 01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:08,679 Speaker 1: many good plays you make as much as how many 1678 01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:12,200 Speaker 1: bad players. You don't. That's basically what we're saying here, 1679 01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:15,680 Speaker 1: Like don't be your own worst enemy right here, Like 1680 01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:19,599 Speaker 1: stay steady Eddie and get the job done. And don't 1681 01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:25,559 Speaker 1: be hot or cold. You know you gotta you can't 1682 01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:29,720 Speaker 1: be hot or cold. You gotta be consistently you. You 1683 01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:34,639 Speaker 1: gotta be consistently you, and consistently you the tortoise and hair. 1684 01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:38,360 Speaker 1: If you're good and good and good, you're gonna be 1685 01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:41,600 Speaker 1: somebody who's great and then bad and then great and 1686 01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:44,920 Speaker 1: then bad. So try and find your levels. Basically what 1687 01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:48,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying here a consistent good beasts and inconsistent great 1688 01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:52,360 Speaker 1: and this world rewards the great no matter what comes 1689 01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,639 Speaker 1: after it. They try to build you up and tear 1690 01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:58,000 Speaker 1: you down, but the ones who win are steady Eddy. 1691 01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:01,120 Speaker 1: So make sure you guys out there stay ready and 1692 01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:04,680 Speaker 1: stay steady Eddie. That's gonna do it. For more to It, 1693 01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:06,800 Speaker 1: take the show notes for all the information on our 1694 01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:10,960 Speaker 1: topics today. You want to keep the conversation going less talk. 1695 01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:14,920 Speaker 1: Find me on all socials at Marcellus Whally. More to 1696 01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:18,200 Speaker 1: It is a production of Dan Patrick Productions. That Dude Entertainment. 1697 01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:21,959 Speaker 1: That's me, that Dude and Workhouse Media. Show is executive 1698 01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,920 Speaker 1: produced by Dan Patrick, marcell S, Wally Damn, that's me again, 1699 01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:29,559 Speaker 1: Paul Anderson, and Nick Panella. I'm Marcellus, Wally dad dude. 1700 01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:32,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, y'all, and thanks for the reviews. I 1701 01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:38,160 Speaker 1: see some more reviews out there. Oay, I ain't getting reviews. Girl, 1702 01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:42,040 Speaker 1: keep them coming, don't play, don't stop, keep them coming. 1703 01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:45,240 Speaker 1: There's more coming from more to it. Talk to y'all 1704 01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:50,160 Speaker 1: next week. Gown count and download. My damn show brings 1705 01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:52,080 Speaker 1: tb app. It's going down.