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Speaker 1: Okay, here we go on a Thursday. We are ready

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Speaker 1: to roll Steeler Cincinnati tonight, Greg co Sell in one hour.

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Speaker 1: It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you

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Speaker 1: may be listening, Thanks for making us part of your day. Look, Jmac, Tonight,

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Speaker 1: I try to stay away from games that have backup

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks against old quarterbacks, but tonight the Steelers are at Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna ask for something. It's not a big thing,

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Speaker 1: but for anybody that is a Steeler fan, let's start

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Speaker 1: our show with this. All you Yingers out there, I'm

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Speaker 1: just asking It's a small favor. I don't think you're

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Speaker 1: capable of a big favor with your Steelers. You're very emotional.

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Speaker 1: I'm asking a small favor. At about eleven thirty pm,

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Speaker 1: and I just want you to add a little perspective

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Speaker 1: realizing you have beaten Justin Fields, Dylan Gabriel, Carson Wentz,

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Speaker 1: pm tonight, I'm just asking for a little perspective. Let's

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Speaker 1: put it this way. Your first five games all green

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Speaker 1: lights driving to work. That's you know, we all get that.

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Speaker 1: We all get that about once a month. You're like, man,

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Speaker 1: I got all green lights. Work was an eleven minute drive,

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Speaker 1: not a thirty minute drive. Aaron Rodgers is not throwing

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Speaker 1: the ball down the field. The offense is ranked very low,

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Speaker 1: but because of the big body types, they don't have

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Speaker 1: to take risks. And I have said, I think it's

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Speaker 1: very smart football by Aaron Rodgers. But after tonight, go

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Speaker 1: grab your pocket. Schedule it sort of changes. Next up

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Speaker 1: the Packers, then maybe the best offensive line in football,

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Speaker 1: a team that is humming Indianapolis. Then at Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Joe alt will be back, Hampton will

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Speaker 1: be back, Khalil Mack will be back at Chicago, Buffalo

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Speaker 1: at Baltimore with Lamar at Detroit Baltimore again. And this

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Speaker 1: is precisely what I predicted you did this last year.

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Speaker 1: I said, last year, you're gonna be nine to eight,

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Speaker 1: ten wins, and but it'll be rough down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: And it was this year I said you're gonna win

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Speaker 1: eight or nine games. You're gonna be eight to nine

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Speaker 1: and nine and eight. It's gonna start hot. This is

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Speaker 1: that he's very emotional, very raw, raw, very inspiring, and

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Speaker 1: that stuff wears off by about week eleven, and it

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Speaker 1: comes down to scheme health. Quarterback play, of which the

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Speaker 1: Steelers since Big Ben got Old hasn't been very good.

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Speaker 1: Last year you were ten and three, and then the

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Speaker 1: rest of the way, including a playoff game, you were

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Speaker 1: zero and five. So you have played one good team

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold didn't even play well, and they blew you

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Speaker 1: out in Pittsburgh. So right now your offense is ranked

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Speaker 1: twenty ninth, your defense is ranked twenty fifth. Five and

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Speaker 1: one is what we call football inflation. At eleven thirty

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Speaker 1: PM tonight, Mike Tomlin. Teams go back a few years,

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Speaker 1: start hot, motivation, stuff wears off, pomp bombs, put in

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Speaker 1: Joe Flaccowen Cincinnati. You're gonna beat him. But Robert May's

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Speaker 1: podcast writer for the Athletics, said, if you look at

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Speaker 1: the data, if you look at the analytics, Aaron playing

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Speaker 4: But ultimately, when you're playing against the Broncos defense on

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Speaker 4: divisional weekend, you're going to need to read stuff out

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Speaker 4: don't think we've seen him do that enough.

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Speaker 1: a deal anymore? Well, it's a big deal. It's not

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Speaker 1: Ohio State and Michigan. I don't know if it's Auburn

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Speaker 1: Is it necessary? Well not for USC. This relationship has

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Speaker 1: become uneven and when they do, it's time to renegotiate.

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Speaker 1: Consider USC, Trump and Notre Dame, NATO. We need to

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Speaker 1: sit down and talk because Notre Dame needs this game

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Speaker 1: that beat Penn State and Washington and Oregon. This game

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Speaker 1: we'll do it every other year and the game has

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Speaker 1: not need Notre Dame. This is uneven. Notre Dame desperately

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Speaker 1: needs USC. Go look at Notre Dame schedule. It's a

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Speaker 1: So I would sit down, this is now an uneven relationship,

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Speaker 1: What am I getting out of it? And all you

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Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff would just kill rivalries? No, it's

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Speaker 1: going to create new ones. Michigan Notre Dame used to

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Speaker 1: play every year. They don't. Michigan. Sin's won a national

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Speaker 1: I think Notre Dame wins this weekend, and I think

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Speaker 1: but this game, with call Weather, better quarterback, potentially better

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Speaker 1: But I see this all the time. I see this

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Speaker 1: And my take on the College Football Playoff and the

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Speaker 1: big game shortage. There will be years. USC will look

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Speaker 1: so all the traditionalists freak out. Baseball traditionalists pitchclock, bigger bases,

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Speaker 1: Cosel one hour from now. Get a lot of feedback,

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Speaker 1: twenty five years. Now they got a winning record. They're

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Speaker 1: the way, Texas Tech is now buying for the playoff.

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Speaker 1: Indiana got into the playoff, So I don't buy all

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Speaker 1: this traditionalist nonsense, all this fear mongering at all. College

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Speaker 1: That will unfortunately be met by the traditionalists who just

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Speaker 1: Dodgers have too much money, Mariners have a lead in

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Speaker 1: Greg Cosel fifteen minutes. We all get smarter. So many

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Speaker 1: but I don't see that speaking of Caleb. I didn't

429
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Speaker 1: think he was great on Monday night. I think there

430
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Speaker 1: are two things I worried about. I agree with you, Yeah,

431
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Speaker 1: I watched him out of usc The two criticisms that

432
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Speaker 1: were valid consistent accuracy and playing with instructure. I think

433
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Speaker 1: he's gotten better within structure. I think his accuracy is

434
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Speaker 1: still a major problem. How would you grade him on

435
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Speaker 1: Monday night's win?

436
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Speaker 8: I would say that both of the things you said

437
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Speaker 8: are very valid. I think even some completions that he

438
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Speaker 8: hasn't been as sharp with his ball location as he

439
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 8: needs to be. That's an area he can must continue

440
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Speaker 8: to improve. He throws a beautiful ball, He's an easy thrower.

441
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Speaker 8: I think Ben Johnson has really designed some really good

442
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Speaker 8: things for him. That touchdown to Swift on third down

443
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Speaker 8: was just a beautifully conceived and well designed play that

444
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Speaker 8: presented just an easy routine throw and then of course.

445
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Speaker 3: Swift with the run after catch.

446
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Speaker 8: But I think the ball location, which is the better

447
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Speaker 8: term now than just accuracy, the ball location has to

448
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 8: get more and more consistent because there's a lot of

449
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Speaker 8: inbreaking throws in the Ben Johnson offense, and you want

450
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Speaker 8: to hit receivers on inbreaking throws where they have run

451
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Speaker 8: after catch, and he needs to get better at that

452
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Speaker 8: because that's foundationally much of what that offense is in

453
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Speaker 8: the pass game.

454
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Speaker 1: So you and I have both always loved Justin Herbert

455
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Speaker 1: and that Chargers Colts game is going to be a

456
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Speaker 1: real game. Herbert made a play to Lad McConkey switching

457
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Speaker 1: hands with the ball. Is that what's fascinating about the Chargers.

458
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Speaker 3: Now?

459
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Speaker 1: We know the coach is good, we know Herbert's great,

460
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Speaker 1: but they didn't have Quinton Johnson, they didn't have their

461
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Speaker 1: top two backs, they didn't have their tackles. So when

462
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Speaker 1: you look at film on the Chargers and sometimes fans

463
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Speaker 1: and immediate we can be unfair with this. There's just

464
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Speaker 1: things Greg they can't do now. So when I watched them,

465
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Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, Lad mcconky's great, No Quintin Johnson,

466
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Speaker 1: no tackles, third running back for the Chargers to win

467
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Speaker 1: that game traveling three thousand miles, I was actually impressed.

468
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Speaker 1: I thought it would be close. Now that Alt Hampton

469
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Speaker 1: Khalil Max coming back. When you watch the Chargers on film,

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Speaker 1: is there anything more Herbert and on Harbaugh can do

471
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Speaker 1: or this is just what they are now.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 8: I think they played that game based on tape study,

474
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Speaker 8: not to expose the limitations of the offensive line, because

475
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Speaker 8: there were a lot of quick rhythm three step drop timing,

476
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Speaker 8: quick five step drop timing throws. He rarely dropped back deep,

477
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Speaker 8: he did not. He hardly ever threw the ball at

478
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Speaker 8: the intermediate and deeper levels. Everything was quick game, Colin,

479
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Speaker 8: And I think your point's right. Right now, they're playing

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Speaker 8: with backup tackles. Bobby Hart played right tackle. They signed

481
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Speaker 8: him the last week, he was there for five days,

482
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Speaker 8: and he's starting at right tackle. So they played this

483
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Speaker 8: game not to expose their offensive line, and they played

484
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Speaker 8: sixteen snaps with three tight ends and actually ran the

485
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Speaker 8: ball very effectively out of that And even this touchdown

486
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Speaker 8: to Vidal came out of three tight ends in the

487
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Speaker 8: low red zone.

488
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Speaker 3: So right now, now it's coaching.

489
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Speaker 8: Now you have to understand what you can do and

490
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Speaker 8: what you can't do and play accordingly.

491
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Speaker 1: So Philadelphia, speaking of coaching, we've said this before. Siriani's

492
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Speaker 1: more motivator than scheme guru. And when they had good

493
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Speaker 1: coordinator Stikeen and Steikan took over the play calling, they

494
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Speaker 1: were elite. He leaves, the substitute, find a new oc.

495
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Speaker 1: It does not look good. Try spin. Then they get

496
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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. It's better. Now they've made another replacement for

497
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Speaker 1: a young man that was on the staff, had never

498
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Speaker 1: called plays. I think they have a little bit of

499
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Speaker 1: a coaching crisis. People could point to injuries the NFL.

500
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Speaker 1: Nobody's totally healthy. Don't they have to Just if I

501
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Speaker 1: just said to you, they run the ball fifty one

502
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Speaker 1: times this week with a variety of people. Isn't it

503
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Speaker 1: just as simple as, guys, here's what we are. We're

504
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Speaker 1: a run team. Is it any more complicated.

505
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Speaker 3: Than that, Well, not significantly so.

506
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Speaker 8: But I think when you watch their tape the last

507
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Speaker 8: couple of years. Okay, don't forget they had an historic

508
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Speaker 8: season a year ago with the run game. But I

509
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Speaker 8: think when you watch the tape and people around the

510
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Speaker 8: league would echo this. They were built on having arguably

511
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Speaker 8: the best O line in the league, a really good

512
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Speaker 8: defensive front.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget.

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Speaker 8: In twenty twenty two, you can talk stich and all

515
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Speaker 8: you want, they led the NFL in quarterback sacks and

516
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Speaker 8: had about thirty of them onth third down. So they

517
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Speaker 8: were a team built in the trenches. It started with

518
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Speaker 8: the O line and the D line, and right now,

519
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 8: neither one of those units is playing at even an

520
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Speaker 8: average level. So the question you then ask is where

521
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Speaker 8: do they go from here? You know, can they get

522
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Speaker 8: the running game back? The old line has been poor

523
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Speaker 8: this year, Colin, not even average, but poor.

524
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Speaker 3: So the question is what's next?

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Speaker 8: Do you have to try to create, you know, to

526
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Speaker 8: use your term gimmick type plays on offense?

527
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Speaker 3: What can you do on offense?

528
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Speaker 8: You also, on offense always have to play to what

529
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Speaker 8: your quarterback is.

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Speaker 3: And I think they've told you. I don't think we

531
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Speaker 3: have to guess this.

532
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Speaker 8: I think they've told you by how they play that

533
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Speaker 8: they believe that Jalen Hurts has pure dropback limitations, which,

534
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Speaker 8: by the way, that tape does show. So the question

535
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Speaker 8: is if they can't run it, are they limited in

536
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Speaker 8: what the answers are?

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.

538
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Speaker 8: If we know the answer one hundred percent, but I

539
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Speaker 8: think they're kind of telling you that they're uncertain where

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Speaker 8: to go.

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Speaker 3: Right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I got before we get to our big play,

543
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about Green Bay. So sure, I

544
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Speaker 1: think Jordan Love is the best quarterback in the league

545
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Speaker 1: that nobody will admit is a good quarterback. He's got

546
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Speaker 1: the size of the arm movement. Generally we all kind

547
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Speaker 1: of no, that's a good quarterback. That's an average guy.

548
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Speaker 1: I think Jordan's a really good quarterback. But they're not

549
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Speaker 1: scoring a ton. They're in a lot of close games. Now,

550
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Speaker 1: my interpretation is this is the youngest offense in the league.

551
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Speaker 1: It's almost collegiate. It's twenty three years, twenty four and

552
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: twenty five. Seattles shaid a little bit of this. Seattle's

553
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: really young. They're finding themselves and sometimes this is early

554
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Speaker 1: for Jordan. It still doesn't play that many games. What

555
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Speaker 1: do you see now? People say, well, they lost here,

556
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Speaker 1: they're close here. I think Jordan Love is an exceptional quarterback.

557
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Speaker 1: Not Alan, but he's exceptional. What does the tape say?

558
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Speaker 8: You know, it is only third year as a starter,

559
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Speaker 8: which is probably hard for people to believe. It's not

560
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Speaker 8: as if he's a ten year pro. You know, he's

561
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Speaker 8: a third year starter. I think one thing that I've

562
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Speaker 8: really noticed on tape, and when I watched him this week,

563
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Speaker 8: I even said to one of my guys, you know,

564
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Speaker 8: in the matchup room, I said, you know, I think

565
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Speaker 8: he's a little bit less reckless now and he's become

566
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Speaker 8: a little more efficient in how he plays.

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Speaker 3: Every once in a while, they'll throw and to go.

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Speaker 8: Maybe shouldn't have done that, but I think the way

569
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Speaker 8: he's playing is a little more refined, a little less reckless,

570
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Speaker 8: a little more efficient. So there's not as many big plays,

571
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Speaker 8: which maybe is the reason they're not necessarily scoring as

572
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Speaker 8: many points. They've gotten the run game going the last

573
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Speaker 8: couple of weeks, but I think they're sort of settling

574
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Speaker 8: into being a team that can be that can win

575
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Speaker 8: multiple ways. They can win with a run game, they

576
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Speaker 8: can win with efficient passing, they can win with big

577
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Speaker 8: play passing, and I think it will continue to come together.

578
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Speaker 8: But the tape really shows a quarterback that I believe

579
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Speaker 8: is just maturing.

580
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so tonight Aaron Rodgers takes on Pittsburgh. Now I

581
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Speaker 1: have defended Aaron. Pittsburgh's a very unique offense. Between Washington

582
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Speaker 1: and Hayward and Firemouth and DK Metcalf, it looks like

583
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Speaker 1: an NBA front court. It's a there's no small gadgety guy.

584
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Speaker 1: It is a big, strong, long receiving tight end group.

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Speaker 1: And I think Aaron knows that there's matchup opportunities. I

586
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Speaker 1: don't think yet it's a down the field offense, and

587
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Speaker 1: I think Aaron knows he's It doesn't look like it

588
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Speaker 1: to me, So I think Aaron smartly is going, hey, listen,

589
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Speaker 1: we're got to run the ball fifteen yards an end,

590
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Speaker 1: play good defense, get turnovers, especially when we're playing second

591
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Speaker 1: tier quarterbacks. The PFF grades and other grades are like,

592
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Speaker 1: this is bad, and my take is, well, personnel dictate scheme.

593
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Speaker 1: So you tell me, is Aaron letting go of it

594
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Speaker 1: early because of age and concern for health or does

595
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Speaker 1: the tape show you this is what they're going to

596
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Speaker 1: be offensively?

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Speaker 8: Well, I can't get into Aaron's head. I'm not sure

598
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Speaker 8: anybody wants to do that. But one thing does that

599
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Speaker 8: the tape shows is they're a very condensed passing game.

600
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Speaker 8: They played last week with a lot of six to

601
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Speaker 8: ozero line personnel. The Darnell Washington kid is just a

602
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 8: tight end, is just a huge guy in a terrific blocker.

603
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Speaker 8: So they're really playing a specific way, which leads you

604
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Speaker 8: to believe that they either feel that that's the best

605
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Speaker 8: way for Aaron to play right now, or they don't

606
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Speaker 8: have enough on the outside where they feel like they

607
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Speaker 8: can truly push it down the field. But right now

608
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Speaker 8: they're very, very condensed and they're winning games.

609
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Speaker 3: That's the thing.

610
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Speaker 8: So you know, you're not going to change until it's

611
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Speaker 8: demanded that you change. But he does not push the

612
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Speaker 8: ball down the field at all, Colin. I mean, that's

613
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Speaker 8: the reality. That's what the tape shows. It's really a

614
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Speaker 8: tight offense. It's very condensed.

615
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they they really do. They're the biggest offense

616
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Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, Metcalf is the and I

617
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Speaker 1: mean they're just so big and physical, and I think

618
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Speaker 1: there's different ways to win in this league, and that's

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Speaker 1: how they're going to have to win. Okay, So the

620
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Speaker 1: next couple of minutes. I've been so impressed with Drake

621
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Speaker 1: May and what's fascinating with young quarterbacks. You know bow

622
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Speaker 1: Nicks last year in September as a rookie, you're like,

623
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Speaker 1: oh boy, and then in October you're like, Okay, this works.

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Speaker 1: Drake May has popped in the last three to four weeks.

625
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Speaker 1: I watch him. He's accurate, he's confident, He's always had size,

626
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Speaker 1: arm strength, and movement. What on film are you looking

627
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Speaker 1: at with the Patriots kid and going, Wow, that sticks.

628
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: That lands.

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Speaker 8: When I watch him, I feel like there's such a

630
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Speaker 8: calculated way in which he plays. He's a very calm player.

631
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Speaker 8: He's an easy thrower. He's been phenomenal in two areas

632
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 8: that you really look at for young quarterbacks, that's third

633
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 8: down and versus blitz. But one trait that he clearly

634
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 8: has and a lot of young quarterbacks really struggle with

635
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Speaker 8: this is what I call pocket movement, which is different

636
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Speaker 8: than leaving the pocket Colin. He moves around the pocket,

637
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 8: He keeps his eyes downfield. He does not drop his

638
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 8: eyes and look at the rush. He keeps his eyes downfield.

639
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 8: He moves within the pocket and then makes really good throws.

640
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Speaker 8: And you don't see a lot of young quarterbacks with

641
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Speaker 8: that given trait, because that's a very refined quarterback trait.

642
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Speaker 8: But he just looks very comfortable. And you know, you

643
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Speaker 8: talk about coaches. I know you talked about the I

644
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Speaker 8: heard you speak about that, what do you think they

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Speaker 8: should do? But you bring in a coach like Josh McDaniels,

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Speaker 8: who's been doing it a long time, with a proven

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Speaker 8: track record, knows how to work with quarterbacks, that's the

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Speaker 8: way to me, you have to do it with a

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Speaker 8: young quarterback, and then he can design things too that

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Speaker 8: present clean looks and clean throws. And we can take

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Speaker 8: a look at the big play from this week. We're

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Speaker 8: actually seeing it right now, but we can see it

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Speaker 8: again and take a look at it.

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Speaker 3: This was a great example of that.

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Speaker 8: I mean, this was a shot play, and a shot

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Speaker 8: play is where teams want to push it down the

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Speaker 8: field when they get between the forties, they want to

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Speaker 8: take a shot down the field and how do they

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Speaker 8: go about doing it, And this was just a great

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Speaker 8: example of that.

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Speaker 3: They're going to put Drake May under center.

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Speaker 8: Okay, that's what you normally see with shot plays because

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Speaker 8: there's going to be a play action element to it,

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Speaker 8: and then they're going to take Hunter Henry the tight end.

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Speaker 8: They're going to motion him across the formation, and what

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Speaker 8: you're going to end up with is it goes from

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Speaker 8: a two by two set to a three by one set,

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Speaker 8: so there's ultimately going to be three receivers to the

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Speaker 3: Now, this will eventually impact the.

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Speaker 8: Safeties and we're going to see that as we get

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Speaker 8: further into the play. But let's now take a look

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Speaker 8: at what this route concept is. Okay, you're going to

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Speaker 8: see a very common route concept on shot plays. It's

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Speaker 8: going to be a corner post and a crossing route.

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Speaker 8: It's essentially a two man route concept because you're going

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Speaker 8: to max protect. You're going to end up protecting here

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Speaker 8: with seven and that's what you do on shot plays

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Speaker 8: is you want to make sure the quarterback off the

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Speaker 8: run action is secure in the pocket. So here you're

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Speaker 8: going to see the five offensive linemen. They're part of

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Speaker 8: the protection obviously, but then you've got two more. You've

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Speaker 8: got Hunter Henry who moved across the formation, and you've

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Speaker 8: got the third wide receiver Mac Collins, so they secure

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Speaker 8: him in the pocket. It's seven man protection. So now

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Speaker 8: let's just revisit the route concept. There's the crosser by

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Speaker 8: Kayshaan Boudi, and here's the corner post by Douglas. He

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Speaker 8: does such a great job here because you know what

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Speaker 8: happens here. He gets that safety because now the safety's rotated,

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Speaker 8: that single high safety. As soon as he turns to

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Speaker 8: the sideline, which he will based on the corner element

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Speaker 8: of the corner post, he's done because now he cannot

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Speaker 8: play the post.

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Speaker 3: So now I'm not.

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Speaker 8: Going to say this is an easy throw Colin because

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Speaker 8: it's forty fifty yards down the field, but it's a defined,

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Speaker 8: clean look and that's what you're trying to do with

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Speaker 8: young quarterbacks. And as I said, this was a shot play,

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Speaker 8: so this is what they wanted to get the ball

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Speaker 8: down the field. That was the number one read here

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Speaker 8: is to throw this ball. But I think they're doing

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Speaker 8: a really good job with him. There's a lot of

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Speaker 8: clean looks, clean throws, and he's just played very calculated,

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Speaker 8: very comfortable and really has improved.

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Speaker 3: I think each and every week.

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Speaker 1: Greg co sal NFL Films forty six years, as always

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Speaker 1: we get smarter. Thanks Greg,