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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. It's Monday, Labor Day,

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Speaker 1: September seven on Straight Fire. Boy, that was a fun

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Speaker 1: Sunday of basketball. Of course, cap with the Lakers win

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Speaker 1: over the Rockets. Will get to that shortly. I do

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Speaker 1: want to quickly touch on what I thought was a

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Speaker 1: monster story Sunday only because of the craziness of it.

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Speaker 1: Novak Djokovic in the US Open, like uh, anybody who's

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Speaker 1: ever played tennis does just frustratingly just wax a ball

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Speaker 1: and it crushes a lines woman in the throat. She

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Speaker 1: goes down, and because of some arcane tennis rule, he

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Speaker 1: was not only disqualified from the match, but from the

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Speaker 1: entire tournament. I mean, listen, I know it's a huge

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Speaker 1: Labor Day weekend. Football's coming up, college football started, NBA

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Speaker 1: playoffs are crazy, but that story, folks, come on, that

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Speaker 1: was mad and this if you haven't seen the clip,

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Speaker 1: I put it on Twitter, and I mean, you just

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Speaker 1: don't expect the number one player in the world to

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Speaker 1: get disqualified for something like that. He had to apologize,

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Speaker 1: but it's tennis. We shall move on. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: start with the best bet, even though it hit Friday night.

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Speaker 1: Boom boom, boom, your boys rolling. I think it's thirteen

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Speaker 1: three and one. I mean, picture me Roland. I mean seriously,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. But I'm I'm excited for football obviously.

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Speaker 1: We have a great guest. You read about it on

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Speaker 1: the wherever you're getting his spotify, I heart iTunes, Preston Johnson.

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Speaker 1: He is a big time gambler. He's like a real

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Speaker 1: sports gambler, like he's getting down big money. Um what

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Speaker 1: I got stories about him. We'll talk about that later.

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Speaker 1: Great interview for later in the podcast, but let's start

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Speaker 1: with the biggest story in sports. It's Monday morning, It's

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Speaker 1: Labor Day. Everybody's gonna be listening to this chilling on

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Speaker 1: the beach, stuck in traffic, and you're gonna be listening

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Speaker 1: to Lebron James. What a dominating performance from Lebron. Totally

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Speaker 1: saved the Lakers, and folks listen, Rob g will attest

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Speaker 1: to this. I'm watching that first quarter of the Lakers game.

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Speaker 1: They put Mark Keith Morrison and Pow pow. He bangs

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Speaker 1: for threes. And of course I had a bet, you know,

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Speaker 1: for Fox Sports, I do daily bets. I had Lakers

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Speaker 1: winning the first quarter that cashed. Anthony Davis is rolling.

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Speaker 1: Lakers are up twenty one, and then the third quarter

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Speaker 1: hits and the Rockets can't miss. I believe they made

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Speaker 1: their first seven three pointers they went. I think the

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Speaker 1: number here I have is nine of thirteen from three

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Speaker 1: in the third quarter, Lakers were losing, and I'm texting

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Speaker 1: Rob g in a panic. I I got so many

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Speaker 1: text change going on during these games, from the in

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Speaker 1: game betting two fans of the Lakers to buddies out

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Speaker 1: and there's genuine panic, and I'm like, this would be

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Speaker 1: bad for business if the Lakers lose. And you know, listen,

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Speaker 1: We'll get to Frank Vogel in a second. But Lebron

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Speaker 1: James took over the game early fourth quarter, and remember

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Speaker 1: he took some heat from Game one, not scoring in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Friend of the podcast, Rob Parker taking

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Speaker 1: jabs all kinds of shots at Lebron for no points

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of Game one, and Lebron takes

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Speaker 1: over in the fourth just steal dunk drive and one

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Speaker 1: shot block. He squatted a Russell Westbrook shot into what

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Speaker 1: would have been in a regular arena like the third row.

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Speaker 1: It was vintage Lebron James one assist, shy of a

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Speaker 1: trip dub Lebron finishing twenty eight points, eleven rebounds, nine assists,

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Speaker 1: four steels, two blocks. I mean, he was everywhere. Anthony Davis,

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Speaker 1: by the way, was a beast a d I loved

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Speaker 1: the thirty four and ten. I mean, those two were great,

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Speaker 1: But the real story for the Lakers was the bench delivering.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure Rob g and I will disagree on

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Speaker 1: Mr Rondo will save him for the end. But Mark

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Speaker 1: Keith Morris six of eight, sixteen points, We're gonna see

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Speaker 1: a lot more of him because JaVale McGee got air

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Speaker 1: quotes hurt and he shouldn't be playing anymore anyway. I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry he started the third quarter. Rockets made that run.

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Speaker 1: You can't play the big Sorry, Kyle Kuzma was big

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Speaker 1: twenty one minutes. He had thirteen points. But Rondo, after

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Speaker 1: Lebron and Anthony Davis, Rondo was the story of this game.

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Speaker 1: He still can't shoot and the Rockets, you know you,

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Speaker 1: I play a lot of pick up basketball in l

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Speaker 1: thoughts on your boy Rondo showing up. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that he has a plus minus of plus

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Speaker 1: you saw long stretches in this game. They just decided

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Speaker 1: what do they call the lu Dort defense, where he

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Speaker 1: gonna leave him alone and let him do whatever he's

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Speaker 1: during that stretch where he think missed three or four

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Speaker 1: So if Lebron's playing thirty eight thirty nine minutes, then

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Speaker 1: Rondo's playing nine or ten minutes. That's it. What about

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Speaker 1: playoff Rondo, rob g, you're not a boy, You're not

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Speaker 1: he's not a good NBA players, well, at least not

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Speaker 1: this wasn't as many mysteries. But um this team could

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't want to be the King Russell westbrookater.

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Speaker 1: it helps the Lakers because you're not in scramble mode.

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Speaker 1: You'll just give Russ the three. I ain't letting Eric

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Speaker 1: So game three is Tuesday, Game four is Thursday. It's

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Speaker 1: Friday's show. We will do NFL and be a heavy

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Speaker 1: A confession, rob G, I don't mind confessing this. I

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Speaker 1: didn't watch one play of college football over the weekend. Now, yeah, listen, guys,

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Speaker 1: talk about Mr Jannis at tennec coumpo. I don't really

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Speaker 1: postseasons where Janice is an offensive liability. Yes, I said it.

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Speaker 1: He's putting up good numbers, but he cannot shoot the basketball.

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee got lucky Sunday. It's tough to say they got

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Speaker 1: Like this team maybe just isn't that good. They were

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Speaker 1: study sports specifically in my graduate work, and I kind

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Speaker 1: of just turned it to that and it was kind

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Speaker 1: of like a learning game for you know, two years

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Speaker 1: before I feel like I was actually pretty good and

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Speaker 1: got to the point where I felt like I could win.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's all just kind of learning experience for

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Speaker 1: people that are just starting out. Kind of going back

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Speaker 1: to your initial question, it's me it's a lot of

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Speaker 1: research and stuff, but it's a lot of practice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: with poker, it can just be purely a numbers game, right,

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Speaker 1: but with sports, there's that different side of uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: the mindset. I mean, you know, when you start looking

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Speaker 1: at Raptors Celtics and how that series has changed basically

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Speaker 1: on a buzzer beater in Game three and then you

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Speaker 1: know the Celtics were kind of struggling and trailed throughout

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Speaker 1: Game four and now it's like, okay, psychologically, where is

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Speaker 1: Boston versus Toronto, which had that you know, championship run

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Speaker 1: last year? They were down oh two to the Bucks

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Speaker 1: and storm back and went fourth straight. And I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, how do you analyze this psychological aspect of sport,

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Speaker 1: it's gambling. So I think a lot of professionals would

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Speaker 1: say that poker and the numbers, it's very much the

446
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Speaker 1: same in sports too, that it is all just the numbers.

447
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Speaker 1: A lot of guys just ignore the narrative stuff completely.

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Speaker 1: I think within a playoff series we're talking m B

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Speaker 1: A like, for sure, there's some back and forth thing

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Speaker 1: or adjustments that certain coaches are making that others aren't.

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Speaker 1: You get content when you're up to oh, and so

452
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Speaker 1: you're just gonna play the same game hoping that you

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Speaker 1: can continue to make wins or get wins. And there's

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Speaker 1: definitely a psychological aspect to that, and the psychology side

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Speaker 1: is tough. It's just something so for me that you

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Speaker 1: want to and for people that don't know. So my

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Speaker 1: master's degree is in sports psychology specifically. I always had

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Speaker 1: always planned to do a PhD and then hopefully work

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Speaker 1: for like a sports team or something one day, which

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Speaker 1: you know, betting and gambling took precedent over that. After

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Speaker 1: I finished my master's degree and I did like a

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Speaker 1: year of my pH d stuff, and I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to keep paying for school if I

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Speaker 1: don't have to, So that was the end of that,

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Speaker 1: but I did have some experience working with coaches and

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Speaker 1: athletes just why I was there, uh, internship type stuff,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's definitely is a thing I think, especially

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Speaker 1: like college level, like these kids have so much on

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Speaker 1: their plates between just trying to have a social life

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Speaker 1: and and make friends or girlfriends, boyfriends, whatever it might

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Speaker 1: be for athletes. And then on top of that, they're

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Speaker 1: trying to keep a certain grade point average two point oh,

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Speaker 1: three point or whatever it might be at your certain school.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to impress your your family, whether it's mom, dad, cousins, whatever,

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Speaker 1: and and then you also have to perform all on

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Speaker 1: the field or court and impress your coaches. And there's

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Speaker 1: just so much going on. It's definitely it takes a

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Speaker 1: toll on the athletes, and so I think at the

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Speaker 1: college level it's definitely a lot bigger deal. Especially you've

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Speaker 1: seen like college basketball markets I feel like are a

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Speaker 1: lot sharper now than they were. But back in the day,

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Speaker 1: like you used to find really good spots just you

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Speaker 1: want to call them sandwich spots or let down spots

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Speaker 1: in like college basketball, where the lines were just probably

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Speaker 1: off a point point and a half blindly and now

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Speaker 1: they've kind of adjusted for that in the market. Um,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, it's a cult nation of everything. But in

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Speaker 1: the I feel like in pro leagues outside of maybe

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Speaker 1: some NBA playoff series or maybe it's similar in NHL,

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Speaker 1: which I don't follow the NHL as far as out

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Speaker 1: series go, but um, you know, pros are getting paid

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Speaker 1: to play and that's really all their focus on outside

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Speaker 1: of family life, and it just is a little simpler

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Speaker 1: for adult that this is what they're paid to do,

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Speaker 1: I think, to manage it. So the psychology I don't

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Speaker 1: think really goes as far there is maybe it would

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Speaker 1: in college sports. So college football, let's quickly go to

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Speaker 1: that that that was your bread and butter for many years.

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Speaker 1: You've told me some interesting stories on that front. But

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Speaker 1: this season, like, I mean, I have a hard time

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Speaker 1: getting too excited about it with no as of now

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Speaker 1: Big ten or Pack twelve and you know, the season

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Speaker 1: getting pushed back and no fans like, how are you

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Speaker 1: approaching gambling to college football specifically We'll get to NFL

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Speaker 1: later this season because I don't. I'm I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: just tough to get a whole like with the players,

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Speaker 1: some stars opting out of teams. I just have no

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Speaker 1: idea yet how to approach this. So my approach is

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Speaker 1: almost identical to what it would be otherwise. And my

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Speaker 1: approach is going to be player based in the sense

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Speaker 1: that if you know a school, I have a rating

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Speaker 1: for every addition group that they have, and their actual

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Speaker 1: recruiting classes, and their coaches, the offensive and defensive coordinators,

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Speaker 1: like everything kind of breaks down into a number, and

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Speaker 1: so if someone opts out, I just adjust that number,

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Speaker 1: and it'll adjust the entire kind of value of that

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Speaker 1: team as a whole. So that's not too tough to gauge.

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Speaker 1: And then the other thing that I think, and this

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Speaker 1: will be the case in the NFL too, uh, you

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Speaker 1: know we talk home field or home court, and there's

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Speaker 1: no fans, and home field advantage is a lot more

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Speaker 1: than just fans in the stands. You know, it's travel conditions.

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Speaker 1: It is you know what what what are the actual

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Speaker 1: sports medicine and nutritional stuff that they're getting fed nowadays

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Speaker 1: versus twenty years ago. And you know it's not even

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Speaker 1: travel conditions and that that you have to like go

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Speaker 1: on a plane and sleep in a bed that isn't

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Speaker 1: yours it's like what time of the day are you playing,

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Speaker 1: How are you going across the country back home and

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Speaker 1: back across the country. What day of the week are

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Speaker 1: you playing? Right these all, how many miles traveled is

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Speaker 1: like one thing to gauge, you know, for a home

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Speaker 1: field advantage. If you're facing it an apportent that's traveled

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Speaker 1: more than another one than that, you know that's gonna

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Speaker 1: make a difference. And these days, to be completely honest,

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Speaker 1: like when we've seen in the last three years in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, especially home field has been diminishing really drastically.

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Speaker 1: Like last year, I think away teams covered like a

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Speaker 1: really high rate they want out right at a rate

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Speaker 1: that we hadn't seen before, Like the home field was

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Speaker 1: like negligent. Now there's still something. I think it was

542
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Speaker 1: more of an outlier year, but as a whole, it

543
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Speaker 1: really has declined. And I think it's because teams are

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Speaker 1: getting better as far as their travel conditions are just

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Speaker 1: getting better. They're getting smarter about, you know, the sports

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Speaker 1: medicine nutritional side of things, and then like when you're

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Speaker 1: talking about crowd noise specifically, like coaches and quarterbacks, like

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Speaker 1: they've kind of figured out how to optimally signal plays

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Speaker 1: and called plays despite crowd noise or not. So I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's really gonna be at least isn't as

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Speaker 1: much of an issue as it has been in the past,

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Speaker 1: so for me, and last thing, last point on this,

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Speaker 1: prior to football starting, prior to even the NBA starting,

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Speaker 1: we had a lot of international data from soccer matches.

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Speaker 1: We talked abou Korean baseball a little bit right, baseball

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Speaker 1: and basketball internationally. That said, you know, the value of

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Speaker 1: home field or home court was only slightly less than

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Speaker 1: what you would expect had there been fans, And there

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Speaker 1: weren't fans in any of these games, and so fans

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Speaker 1: are a small part of it, small portion. I've adjusted

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Speaker 1: slightly to that, but really there's still gonna be some

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Speaker 1: home field, I think because of all of the other variables.

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Speaker 1: So my approach it's really similar, man. I just this

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Speaker 1: is the team that's on the field, these are their coaches,

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Speaker 1: the situation, how much rest or disadvantage rest is it

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Speaker 1: versus the other team? And you know who's home, whose away?

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Speaker 1: And I just bet my numbers accordingly. Will you be

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Speaker 1: betting the same strategy as in early in the week

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Speaker 1: or later in the week due to COVID um. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what the protocol is going to be for

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Speaker 1: them announcing, you know, if l s U is down

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Speaker 1: three offensive linemen, are we not going to find that

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Speaker 1: out till Friday Saturday? Or I don't know, how are

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Speaker 1: you going to handle that? That first opener was that

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Speaker 1: FCS matchup Austin p and Central Arkansas. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you heard about that, but they were. They all

577
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Speaker 1: got COVID testing done a couple of days before, and

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Speaker 1: one team was like, yep, everyone's good to go. The

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Speaker 1: other team was not responded, ding and not giving answers,

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Speaker 1: like no comment essentially until the day of the game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was like some leaks from people that

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Speaker 1: were saying like, hey, these guys are out for roustin

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Speaker 1: P and it was a big deal and you didn't

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Speaker 1: find out until right before the game, so they didn't

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Speaker 1: have to release this prior. And then you know, you

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Speaker 1: don't want your opponent to know so and so is.

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Speaker 1: That was like one of their best receivers in his

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Speaker 1: last name is Wilson for US and P like one

589
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Speaker 1: All conference receiver last year, Like he was out. They

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Speaker 1: had five different defensive players they got regular time that

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Speaker 1: year prior that we're out, and you know, Ustin p

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Speaker 1: actually had a lead anyway, and us in essentialkers I

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Speaker 1: end up winning late. But it's one of those where

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Speaker 1: years kind of have to like figure out the info.

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Speaker 1: When you get it, you know better accordingly. But then

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Speaker 1: to your question again, like are you betting earlier in

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Speaker 1: the week If you don't have the info and it's

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Speaker 1: not going to be coming out until the day of

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Speaker 1: the NFL especially, I'm probably just gonna fire. Similarly, like,

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Speaker 1: if I like something on a Wednesday, Thursday, whatever it

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Speaker 1: may be, it's it's hard enough to beat the NFL anyways,

602
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Speaker 1: Like the the margins are just so fan from a

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Speaker 1: market perspective, and if you're waiting until Sunday morning to

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00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: bet NFL games, you're just it's really hard to win.

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Speaker 1: And I'd rather bet Wednesday and Thursday into softer numbers

606
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Speaker 1: at least, especially like on totals, hoping that over the

607
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Speaker 1: course of the season, if there's some scratches because of

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Speaker 1: COVID or injury that go against me, I also have

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Speaker 1: some cases where it benefits me right, and that over

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Speaker 1: the course of the season. It's kind of a wash.

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Speaker 1: So it's added variants or extra variables. But I probably

612
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Speaker 1: am just going to, you know, assuming everything is good

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Speaker 1: the week prior, bet teams accordingly and and hope that

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Speaker 1: it doesn't really bite me too much. Alright, So on NFL, Now,

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Speaker 1: we had talked about NBA extensively with totals and you know,

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Speaker 1: with you know, in the bubble and unfamiliar settings and

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Speaker 1: players having five months off. Um, I thought Unders would

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00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: do well. They went to an other first day and

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Speaker 1: then it was an overrun that was unprecedented. Now Unders

620
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: are now I think they were nine and one in

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Speaker 1: playoffs heading into Sunday, so it's starting to gain back.

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Speaker 1: But how are you going to approach NFL totals? Is

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Speaker 1: there more of an edge there or on sides? Given

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Speaker 1: the no preseason and um, you know, some teams will have,

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Speaker 1: say like the New York Giants, new head coach, new

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. I believe they have a new defensive coordinator. Uh,

627
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Speaker 1: you know, the Bengals have uh some continuity, but a

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Speaker 1: new quarterback. How are you approaching totals and sides? And

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Speaker 1: specifically in Week one? I know someone yesterday there were

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Speaker 1: three I think three fbs games yesterday, for example, they

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Speaker 1: they round robin with the b y U Navy game

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Speaker 1: for Labor Day in the evening. Uh, they round robin

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Speaker 1: those four games first half under. So that means they

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Speaker 1: did a parlay of all four than groups of parlays

635
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Speaker 1: of three teamers and groups of parlays of two teamers,

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Speaker 1: just just blindly because it's like, hey, these teams, they

637
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Speaker 1: haven't played at all, they didn't practice as much as

638
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: they normally would. They might be resting now. The first

639
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: three all, hey yesterday, So I think Medicas Arkansas State

640
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: was close. The other two weren't really much of a sweat.

641
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: I think, oh no, no, no, no, the Army was

642
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: a sweat to Actually, I don't know if you saw

643
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: the end of that first half against Middle Tennessee State.

644
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: Middle Tennessee State totally botched the clock and didn't end

645
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: up getting points at the end of the half. But regardless,

646
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: they all they all three of them had. And then

647
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: the one you know that's left is by U maybe

648
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: too he maybe sweeps all for and then he has like,

649
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: you know, twelve legs of parleys or something. So the uh,

650
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: the question begs then, so like it's the NFL going

651
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: to be similar. These teams are used to at least

652
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: getting a couple of preseason games of work. Now generally

653
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: maybe the only played the first quarter or first halves,

654
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: also the end. But the NFL, like these guys have

655
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: especially a lot of the coaches and quarterbacks have played

656
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: in the same systems for years, whereas college is a

657
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: little bit different, so there's not as much turnover in

658
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: that regard. It's a good question. I haven't necessarily gone

659
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: in and decided I'm just gonna blindly bet this. Liten

660
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: this you know that I did for the NBA, because

661
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: I was telling you, like, yeah, it has adjusted. All

662
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: these totals are ten to fifteen points too low, Like

663
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna bet all these overs. Has the NFL adjusted?

664
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: Have you seen any significant changes? I mean with the

665
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: remember no fans, I think for like four team of

666
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: the sixteen games in Week one, sure I have noticed

667
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: that they seem there's like two bets that I would

668
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: probably make on the totals of the current market right now,

669
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: and they were both overs. So it makes you wonder

670
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: like maybe in general they're slightly shaded, But I mean

671
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: Texans Chiefs is still fifty four. You know there's fifty

672
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: four and a halves out there too. Like, that doesn't

673
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: seem like abnormally low, right, it doesn't. It doesn't seem

674
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: like it just step into a fan that doesn't have

675
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: numbers in front of them to spit out a projection. Um,

676
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: you know Brown's Ravens right, Like, that doesn't seem like

677
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: they're they're adjusting too much. So it's not one of

678
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: those NBA situations where we all need to bet overs

679
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: because every football game is a touchdown low or something.

680
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: It's not like that at all. I think there are

681
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: maybe two spots where I do like and over, but otherwise,

682
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's mostly fair. Let me try

683
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: to guess. Uh. I think Houston Casey probably goes over right.

684
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: It looks like it was fifty six and a half

685
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: down to fifty four. Um, you know the Houston defense

686
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: is abysmal. I would lean over there. Life without Hopkins.

687
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: You think Deshaun Watson will figure out a way. I mean,

688
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: all the receivers are healthy for now, you know, like,

689
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: you know these guys are are healthy now. Yeah, I

690
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: would definitely lean me over there. Now. I haven't looked

691
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: at historical trends for the Thursday night opener. Um, but

692
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: that would be one of the games I would look at.

693
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: I also think Washington Philly. Um, that's a game I've

694
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: kind of circled, but more of a side. Um, you

695
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: like Philly, No, I like Washington. Interesting. I think you

696
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: might be able to wait, I don't think it don't

697
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: get seven, but I think it'll get to six and

698
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: a half, And even went to six and a half

699
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: at one spot. I'm looking at Yeah. I mean I

700
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: did go to Vegas last week and that I bet

701
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: to uh two games. It was I took Washington and

702
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: the points and I took uh Browns and the points. Yeah.

703
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: Divisional matchups, um, big number. And I and I kind

704
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: of like Washington is a dog this year, and I

705
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: think I like the Browns. Let me ask you, what

706
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: are your thoughts real quick on the Patriots as the

707
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: Hall this season. That's the one that I don't know

708
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: how to approach that game. I mean, I I don't

709
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: under listen. I'm not gonna underestimate Belichick obviously, but they

710
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: have so many losses on defense, Like how do you

711
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: how do you factor in the Patriots having something like

712
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: seven players opt out for COVID back. They lost their

713
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: offensive line coach, and I know, you know a lot

714
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: of people say, who cares about an offensive line coach?

715
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: Garnetia had been there something like three decades. Uh, you know,

716
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: they just cut snow, Like, what's that about? I don't know.

717
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: The Patriots are the one team that I will be

718
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: looking to avoid at all costs early in the season,

719
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: just because I don't have a read on them, do

720
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: you so? I read? Is is an interesting way to

721
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: put it, because I, like I said, I have my

722
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: process where I take the players that are playing, and

723
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: I have ratings for them, and you know, it spits

724
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: out a number if you want to call it that.

725
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: I I like the Patriots at minus six, and I

726
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: like the over Now the defense is going to be worse,

727
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: and you know fitz Patrick Dolphins. Obviously we're able to

728
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: score the football last season in that back after But

729
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm worried. I'm like sitting here because I'm pretty far.

730
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm like seven point four projections, So you know, I

731
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: would find this at least seven, maybe even seven and

732
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: a half. And seven is such a key number and

733
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: for the markets only be six right now, the Pats

734
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: at home and you know, I'm accounting for home field

735
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: to some degree. Maybe I'm not adjusting down enough. I

736
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: think in general, though again I talked it through, I

737
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: think home field no fans is going to probably be

738
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: overblown just because home field hasn't been a huge advantage

739
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: anyways the last few seasons. I like the Pats of

740
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: mine at six and then the forty two and a

741
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: half you can get at some spots, it's just too low,

742
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: I like. I like both of those. But that was

743
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 1: one of the overts that I was referencing from before

744
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: when I mentioned but that that's strictly a numbers play Patriots, right,

745
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: or is there something else that you like there? Because

746
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, Preston, Like, maybe is it is there

747
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: a narrative out there that the Patriots are gonna stink

748
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: this year and they're tanking? What about the narrative of

749
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: Belichick losing Week seventeen last Yeah, to the Dolphins revenge

750
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: game in Week one? But like, how can your numbers

751
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: spit out anything on Cam Newton when he missed, you know,

752
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: most of the last season and we don't know about

753
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: the shoulder status. Um, how can you how can your

754
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: numbers incorporate anything for for Cam given the injury history.

755
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: We have plenty of data on Cam like lifetime, right,

756
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: but it's one of those where you need to wait

757
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: maybe more recent stuff, more than even three seasons ago.

758
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: So you definitely have that you're always concerned about coming

759
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,479
Speaker 1: off of a significant injury. Um, so yeah, it's totally

760
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: numbers play. The reason why I brought it up is

761
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: because you were mentioning all these things. It's a total

762
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: narrative game to like not even joking about the revenge game,

763
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: but it cost him a first round by maybe the

764
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: future of the Patriots and the Chiefs different. If the

765
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: Patriots just win as a seventeen point favorite over the

766
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: Dolphins in Week seventeen, then going further, so everyone's hearing

767
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: about Tom Brady, Tom Brady, Tom Brady. All these other

768
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: defenders have a opted out or left like Bill Belichick,

769
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, all these guys have something to prove. It's

770
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins at home in Week one. And if

771
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna trust anyone to put together a game plan

772
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 1: in week one after this weird, uncomfortable, unique offseason, who

773
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: is it? Probably Belichick one of the guys. Belichick over

774
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: Brian Flores and who there. I don't understand the Miami

775
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: Dolphins get dumping the former Patriots O C and adding

776
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: Chan Gailey who had been out of football for I

777
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: believe two years and he's like sixty seven years old,

778
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: and something seems off. But but the Dolphins are interesting.

779
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: You said you said you had a second game that

780
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: was interesting. Let me see if I can get that.

781
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go ahead and guess maybe it's either

782
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: Dallas or Denver. It is Dallas game. Yes, that because

783
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: that was that was a total that I also show

784
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: an edge over and it's one of those well, okay,

785
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: but it's no preseason games. But I'm like really bullish,

786
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: extraordinarily bullish on the Dallas Cowboys offense. Really, and I'm

787
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: also I think most people are. You just have so

788
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: many weapons and Dak Prescott so and like other things,

789
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, with with Kellen Moore ticking over as I

790
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: was see last year, he sticks around. But Mike McCarthy

791
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: comes in, who's I think an upgrade over Jason Garrett

792
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: just because Jest was so bad. He you know, in

793
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: his thirteen seasons with the Packers, they went play action

794
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: on first down and passed on first down more than

795
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: any other team, which we know nowadays analytics wise, and

796
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: that's the most successful way to move the football is

797
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: to go play action and do it regularly on first

798
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: down and catch defenses off guard, especially when you have

799
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: a running back threat like Ezekiel Elliott. There's just so

800
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: much going for Dallas. But the Rams, I feel like

801
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: the Rams. I don't want to call it hate just

802
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 1: because they have gotten worse. I trust McVeigh and Golf

803
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: and those guys to be competent offensively still regardless. And

804
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: so that's another one. That's that one. In the end,

805
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: that Pat's total forty two and a half and then

806
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: fifty one and a half on the on the Cowboys Rams,

807
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: I think both are a little low. So those would

808
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: be the two overlooks I would look at the week

809
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: and any sides that you've given a lean to. Obviously,

810
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: one of the big ones is historically the Saints have

811
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: struggled mightily in the first two weeks covering there at

812
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: home Brady comes to town. Tom Brady is an underdog.

813
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: You know that narrative from his days in New England.

814
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: But but how can your numbers uh factor in anything

815
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: on a Tampa team where they have a new quarterback

816
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: who's one of the greatest of all time, but in

817
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: a new system, and they've added grown Kowski. They just

818
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: picked up Shady McCoy Leonard Fournett. There there is this

819
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: narrative around the Bucks, but again it's the same too.

820
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: I think have probably the best overall roster in the NFL.

821
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: Their offense could go any direction. To be completely honest,

822
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I think people forget though, just

823
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: in general, Yes, how do you know or how do

824
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: you gauge where this team is gonna be at? Look

825
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. I think he led the NFL in passing

826
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: yards last year. He was second in touchdowns thrown. He

827
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: also threw thirty interceptions. So the offense is set up

828
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: for Brady to step in and have weapons and have opportunity.

829
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: And Brady's not throwing thirty interceptions. It's just not gonna happen.

830
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: The defense was quietly, very very good. I don't know

831
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,479
Speaker 1: if you've talked about Tampa Bay's defense in the past,

832
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: like they were top I think one or two they

833
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: were first or second and stuff right against the defending

834
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: the run. They had a lot of good metrics pointing

835
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: that way. But and that's with Winston putting him in

836
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: so many backspots. Wait wait, let me ask them so,

837
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: but preston the year before, I think they were thirty

838
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: first in run defense. So they go from thirty one

839
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: to first, doesn't that mean maybe there is some regression

840
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: to write around the middle of this year because it

841
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 1: didn't seem like they had one or two guys who

842
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: were incredible against the run. What am I missing there?

843
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: They well, they got you know, they rebuilt to some extent,

844
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: and they have some young guys that have done well.

845
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: But they got a new defensive coordinator last year. I

846
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: don't know if you know, the name off the top

847
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: of drink head came from the Jets. Yeah, so, uh

848
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: that that was a big difference. And and as as

849
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: bad as the Jets have been and then your Jets

850
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: bee like they were always a pretty competent defensively, they

851
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: just cann't score for a while. So uh, yeah, it's

852
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: not gonna go back. I would be shocked if they

853
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: went back to the middle. Like, you can't just take

854
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: the last two years and then say a thirty one one,

855
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen, Um, I think they'll still probably be

856
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: top five is against run. Maybe as a whole they're not.

857
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: But when it's all said and done, what I was

858
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: gonna mention is, you know, Winston put them they had

859
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: like the worst average starting film position as far as

860
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: the defense is concerned. Opponents just got the ball off

861
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: of all these turnovers and such anigue spot. So their

862
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: points wise, they were giving up more points. But when

863
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: you kind of dig into like the game scripts of

864
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: all these games they were playing thanks to Winston, which

865
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: is Tom Brady is just not going to do that,

866
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: I think it benefits them. So I like Tampa Bay

867
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: as a whole. Uh. I was actually hoping I wouldn't.

868
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: I was hoping that the market would love the Tom

869
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: Brady acquisition. I could bet unders this and that, and

870
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: then you know, season win totals popped, prices popped. I

871
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: think they're all actually pretty fair. So Tampa Bay as

872
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: a whole definitely deserve I think to be, you know,

873
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: the top three to four team in the NFL. Alright,

874
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: Preston Johnson will wrap this up with just one final question.

875
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: I guess you know I get this question so much

876
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: on Instagram because I post some pics. I know you've

877
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: stopped posting pics a lot because I'm sure you hate

878
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: the Peanut gallery yelling at you and stuff, But I

879
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: mean you you have almost an exclusive gambling audience on

880
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: your social media and and I guess I would ask, like,

881
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: how do you handle when people come up and they're like,

882
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: hey man, what's the best online site to gamble at?

883
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: And what do you think about this? And like, I

884
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: don't want to steer people in the wrong direction, but

885
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: I also don't know who you know, which of these

886
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: guys is with the I r s to try to

887
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: ask me questions? And like, you don't know some of

888
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: these people, and how do you broch handling some of

889
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: these guys? And I'm sure you're getting inundated, but what's

890
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: the best approach to tell guys who are just entering

891
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: the market, because trust me, there's a lot of new

892
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: money entering. A lot of people would say that's dumb

893
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: money or public money. How do you approach how do

894
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: you handle telling these guys advice when you know they

895
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: look to you for picks and thoughts all the time,

896
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: So I know you even maybe one maybe we have

897
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: another minute at the end to talk about just kind

898
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: of the landscape in future of betting in the in

899
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: the United States, which we can get into. I think

900
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: they're kind of correlated. So when when people ask me, like,

901
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: what's your favorite online sites, I don't I don't usually answer,

902
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 1: just like for your sake, like you don't want to

903
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: say I also have people that can legally bet outside

904
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: the United States for me if I want to get down, so, um,

905
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: you know it's possible. There are good sites out there.

906
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: You can usually do your due diligence and just kind

907
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: of search around on the internet and get good feedback.

908
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: That way, when people ask me their favorite books or

909
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: best places to bet in Vegas, I'll always respond so

910
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,240
Speaker 1: I would do that. So it doesn't really, um, it's

911
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: it's it's exactly what you were kind of alluding to,

912
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: where you don't want to have some guy from the

913
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: arrest like, oh are you betting there? And you shouldn't

914
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: be like I just kind of avoid the question. But

915
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: there are opportunities, uh, especially I think in the next

916
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: two years there's been so many states that just offer

917
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: it that most people will be able to bet within

918
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: the United States legally in their own home from an

919
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: app most likely. So when it's all said and done,

920
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure that question will matter too much.

921
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: And then the peanut galley I've gotten used to. I've

922
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: just five posted stuff on Twitter for so long. It's

923
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: just part of part of what I do, and I'm

924
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm pretty good at ignoring it. And then there's certain

925
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: people that I respect that when they like say something

926
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: to you and you're like, man, I'm I'm man, they

927
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: don't think I'm good like it gets to you. Sometimes

928
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm insecure about depending on who it is that takes

929
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: a shot. Right. If it's the random Twitter egg that

930
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: like doesn't know what they're talking about, I really don't.

931
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: But um yeah, so it varies somewhat, but it's it's

932
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: part of it. It's there's days when I don't want

933
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: to look at the mentions, and there's other days when

934
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: I can't wait to just respond to attentions. Right, Like,

935
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: I know some people that just don't even bother anymore looking, Um,

936
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 1: they probably are stronger than I am. But uh, yeah,

937
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: it's not It's not too bad. I know. Instagram is

938
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: like the new thing I I finally started like an

939
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: Instagram handle at the start of this year. That was

940
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: one of my kind of new year's resolutions was I'm

941
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: gonna start an Instagram handle, try to build it up,

942
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: just because that's where the future audiences are. And when

943
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: you're doing more media stuff and I see your Instagram

944
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: all the time, like you're really good at getting stuff.

945
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: You limit yours to family? Or did you start a

946
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: separate account? I started a separate accounting that sports Cheetah Instagram.

947
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: So and then covid happened like a month and half later,

948
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: and so I haven't really built it up yet, but

949
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: that's a goal eventually, to to start getting and interacting

950
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: with people over there on I G Okay, So yeah,

951
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: you said you wanted to talk about like the future

952
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: of gambling. Like listen, Um, we've seen mainstream media dive

953
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 1: in head first to gambling where you and I have discussed,

954
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: there's some private equity coming into the market. There's some

955
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: venture capitalists who are you know, making moves. Uh, where

956
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: do you see gail and And And it's tough to project

957
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: five years ahead, but where do you see gambling five

958
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: years from now? In sports? Our league is gonna I

959
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: mean we're already seeing leagues starting a partner. Um, where's

960
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: it headed? So you're right, there's a ton of money

961
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: flooding the market, even in this market right now, just

962
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: because they know the space is going to be so

963
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: big in the United States, they want a piece of

964
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: it in some form or fashion or early, similar to

965
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: even DFS, which doesn't have nearly the ceiling that betting

966
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: has in America. You know, if you're in early in

967
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 1: that regard, you're able to make a bunch of money.

968
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: So from a media perspective, I think everyone's trying to

969
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: figure out a way to do content, whether it be

970
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: networks on TV, radio stations, websites. That will always be

971
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: a thing. Um. I think the most important part, and

972
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: it's tough. I don't really think about this stuff too

973
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: much because I kind of just want to go with

974
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: the flow, and you know, I'm I live my life

975
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: either way. But I think the most important part will

976
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: be for the actual sports books to cater to recreational

977
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: players and just make it a consistent, desirable hobby for people.

978
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: Right Like, there's still books that are up in certain states.

979
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: It's like awesome, you can bet here now, but they're

980
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: offering like minus one fourteen on each side or for

981
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: winning betters in those states. After a week or two,

982
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: their limits or decreased to a hundred dollars or even

983
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: less sometimes, and so if you're gonna do that, it's

984
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: just like it's it's not sustainable for an average recreational

985
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: better to win when you're laying minus one fourteen each

986
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: way or minus one told each way. It's not if

987
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: you're laying minus one ten each way, which is the

988
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: general standard. It's just tough anyway. So I think ultimately,

989
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: once all the states are kind of in the mix,

990
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: they're offering something, people are realizing something, people are already

991
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: trying to work on it. That My hope is that

992
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: there's some sort of form of an exchange that offers

993
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: betting where if I like a side, someone else likes

994
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: the same side, and exchange can kind of act as

995
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: the in between. The exchange takes the three percent or

996
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: whatever it is for doing the transaction, and for a

997
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: recreational better, they can last a lot longer because they're basically,

998
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: if you want to say, flipping coins and minus one

999
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: o three like, you're gonna last pretty long flipping coins

1000
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: and minus one twelve fourteen right now. In some other

1001
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: states you're just not gonna last nearly as long. So

1002
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: I think that's important is that we find ways to

1003
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: cater to recreational bettors who want to consume the media

1004
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: because they're allowed to keep betting and want to keep

1005
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: betting and have money to keep betting. So it's kind

1006
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: of all intertwined. But I hope we figure out a

1007
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: way to to solve that at least to some degree

1008
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: in the next few years. Alright, good stuff Preston Johnson. Hey,

1009
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: thanks a lot for taking the time, Preston, and good

1010
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: luck this football season. Cool. The only thing better than

1011
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: sitting on your couch watching the game. He's making money

1012
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: while you do it. Here's your best Bet. Good stuff

1013
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: from Preston Johnson. He's a really interesting character. And uh,

1014
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna cover the gamut on this podcast. We're gonna

1015
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: get the big newsmakers. We're gonna get interesting people. Guys.

1016
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: Were gonna make you think. I hope you really like that,

1017
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: and remember to drop a note on the iTunes podcast

1018
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: or hit me up on social media Instagram, Twitter, even Facebook. Um,

1019
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear your thoughts. So onto the Best Bet.

1020
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: We are now thirteen three and one. I mean, what

1021
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: a run there. It's it's it's very difficult to stay

1022
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: this hot on the NBA. NFL's coming up, and I

1023
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: would love to trade, uh this kind of NBA run

1024
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I'm gonna go with what I think

1025
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: feels like a layup. I'm gonna go with the l

1026
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: A Clippers in the first half against the Denver Nuggets.

1027
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: The Clippers just got their pants pulled down Saturday night.

1028
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: They got embarrassed. The spread is nine, which is a

1029
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: little big. Um. I can see the Clippers coming out strong,

1030
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: locking down on defense, and I don't actually see a

1031
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: first half number yet. I would imagine it's four and

1032
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: a half or five. Full game spread is nine, um,

1033
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: but I like either of those numbers. I can see

1034
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: the Clippers having a strong first half, and I think

1035
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: that's my best bet. I'm gonna back off the Celtics

1036
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: and Raptors. I feel like Game three I got lucky

1037
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: getting a push and then game where I outright lost.

1038
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna pass on that. I'm gonna take the

1039
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: Clippers in the first half as my best bet for Monday,

1040
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: September seven. Everybody, thank you so much for the nice

1041
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: comments on iTunes on social media, and uh, everybody, have

1042
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: a safe Labor Day. We will see you tomorrow