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Speaker 1: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
Speaker 1: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Speaker 1: On each episode, will discuss the reasons we now know
Speaker 1: that our loved ones have survived physical death and so
Speaker 1: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. How is
Speaker 1: your week going? Mine's going pretty good. I'm in a
Speaker 1: good mood. The sun is shining in. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: my windows seeing the birds flying around, and I would
Speaker 1: just want to share a few things before we get
Speaker 1: into the meat of our time together. First of all,
Speaker 1: if you remember, some months back, my former boyfriend had
Speaker 1: tragically died. He had gotten himself into an accident, drove
Speaker 1: straight into a tree, and they believe he may have
Speaker 1: had a heart attack. Since then, I've received some signs.
Speaker 1: I had an incredible reading with the medium named Katherine Shirley,
Speaker 1: who brought in so many details about our relationship together
Speaker 1: and things that we did together. Truth is, I hadn't
Speaker 1: seen him in a couple of years, and I know
Speaker 1: we weren't ultimately meant for each other, but we did
Speaker 1: care deeply about each other. I had a weird and
Speaker 1: amazing experience, which I believe one hundred percent are signs
Speaker 1: from Michael letting me know with his own unique sense
Speaker 1: of humor, that he is still here. On Mondays, we
Speaker 1: host a class with Scott Milligan. During the class, he
Speaker 1: guided us in a sitting with our eyes closed. We
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to invite in a loved one into
Speaker 1: our space and then also one of our guides to
Speaker 1: feel the difference, the different power and how it feels.
Speaker 1: My mind first went to Michael, not my dad, not
Speaker 1: my grandmother, but Michael. I said, okay, we'll go with it.
Speaker 1: And during the sitting with our eyes closed, I felt
Speaker 1: very clearly his presence. I remembered some of the times
Speaker 1: we spent together. It was so clear in my mind
Speaker 1: in my memory, remember holding his hand, remember the laughs
Speaker 1: we shared, the hugs. And when class was over, I
Speaker 1: decided to log into Facebook. The first thing that pops
Speaker 1: up on my Facebook page was the memorial site that
Speaker 1: I created for Michael. I hadn't been on it in
Speaker 1: oh my gosh months, and it was so weird that
Speaker 1: all of a sudden that popped up. After the class,
Speaker 1: I went into my kitchen to make myself a cup
Speaker 1: of tea, and I have an Amazon Alexa. I noticed
Speaker 1: that there was a green ring lit up, which normally
Speaker 1: means a notification. It normally means something about a previous
Speaker 1: order I had placed. So I asked her, Alexa, what
Speaker 1: are my notifications? And I was shocked to hear I'll
Speaker 1: play it for you from Amazon Shopping. Based on your
Speaker 1: past activity, you might be interested in announcements and updates
Speaker 1: from author Michael A caller. Would you like to follow
Speaker 1: this author now? So she says, based on my account activity, now,
Speaker 1: Michael is his name. I did help him write a
Speaker 1: couple of small humorous books, but I have not researched
Speaker 1: him on Amazon. There's been no account activity researching him.
Speaker 1: It's been years since I've pulled up his books on Amazon.
Speaker 1: But that Alexa, she knew his exact name. It was
Speaker 1: really very strange. I had to play it a few
Speaker 1: times and then record it so I could share it
Speaker 1: with you. Do you want to hear it one more time?
Speaker 1: I do. From Amazon shopping. Based on your past activity,
Speaker 1: you might be interested in announcements and updates from author
Speaker 1: Michael A caller, would you like to follow this author now?
Speaker 1: Of course I said yes, by the way, because I
Speaker 1: want to know his announcements and his activity. I do
Speaker 1: know there are such things as cookies, I think they
Speaker 1: call them, so if you visit a website, it may
Speaker 1: pop up for you on Facebook. They monitor websites you
Speaker 1: visit and then try to promote them other places. So
Speaker 1: I know that's there. And I even spoke to my
Speaker 1: mom about this, looking for a solid reason why I
Speaker 1: might have gotten that notification. I have never received a
Speaker 1: notification about any author that I'm following, and No. I
Speaker 1: have bought probably over a hundred books on Amazon, some
Speaker 1: from repeated authors. I have never received a notification about
Speaker 1: any of them, nor have I received any notifications since
Speaker 1: just this just about Michael. And then later when I
Speaker 1: went back on my computer and signed back into Facebook,
Speaker 1: his personal Facebook page popped up, my friends listening in
Speaker 1: my heart of hearts. I do believe this is communication
Speaker 1: from Michael from beyond. I think for each one of us,
Speaker 1: we have to do the work to make sure a
Speaker 1: sign really is a sign. Like some people see feathers
Speaker 1: and they think, oh, that's a sign from my loved one,
Speaker 1: But right around the corner an unfortunate bird might have
Speaker 1: come to its demise. So we have to use logic.
Speaker 1: And there is no way putting the pieces together that
Speaker 1: I can figure out other than Michael stirring things up
Speaker 1: with his sense of humor from beyond. That that is
Speaker 1: a sign from him. Did it comfort me yes? Did
Speaker 1: it make me laugh? Absolutely? Did it go right along
Speaker 1: with his personality and sense of humor absolutely? Will I
Speaker 1: continue to be on the lookout for signs, absolutely, So
Speaker 1: I just wanted to share that with you. Let's see
Speaker 1: what else earlier this week, we had our Sunday gathering,
Speaker 1: and I know I always recommend you come join us
Speaker 1: on a Sunday, Yes they're motivating, but this past week
Speaker 1: we had an exceptionally special medium demonstration. The level of
Speaker 1: evidence I feel was out of this world wonderful and
Speaker 1: the joy I left with such a big smile on
Speaker 1: my face. So I think you listening to this gentleman
Speaker 1: getting a reading on our free Sunday gathering, we'll put
Speaker 1: a smile on your face. So I definitely want to
Speaker 1: share that. Also, last week, we were talking about atheists
Speaker 1: and do atheists believe in the afterlife? And I found
Speaker 1: a story of a young man named Alexei who overdosed
Speaker 1: and had a near death experience, and I thought it
Speaker 1: might be interesting to read just a segment from this
Speaker 1: because it's powerful, and just to tell you a little
Speaker 1: bit about this young man. He came from a very
Speaker 1: abusive household, physically abusive, and that's probably the biggest reason.
Speaker 1: He said that he didn't believe in God because how
Speaker 1: could a young child be treated so poorly? So he
Speaker 1: got involved with drugs, and this is one of his experiences.
Speaker 1: He said he did a hotshot an injection into his arm.
Speaker 1: He was with a group of people. He says, finally
Speaker 1: it was my turn to take the needle, and I
Speaker 1: put it in between my toes, and he says, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was the booze or the other substances,
Speaker 1: but I immediately felt like something was gripping my heart
Speaker 1: and ripping it out and squeezing it at the same time.
Speaker 1: I found myself in complete dar warkness and nothing around me.
Speaker 1: I walked around a tiny bit in my dream, but
Speaker 1: still thinking to myself, what a strange dream. You need
Speaker 1: to wake up. You aren't dreaming, Alexei. I heard a
Speaker 1: voice say from the darkness, and I thought, this is
Speaker 1: some crazy trip I'm having. That needle must have been spiked.
Speaker 1: You are dead, Alexei, the voice said, bull. I screamed back,
Speaker 1: If I am dead, then who are you? The voice
Speaker 1: said it was God, which immediately caused me to laugh,
Speaker 1: and I said, where were you when my dad was
Speaker 1: beating the snot out of me daily? The voice said,
Speaker 1: I was there with you, taking all of those beatings.
Speaker 1: I said, come on, don't give me that s h
Speaker 1: I t stop hiding in the dark and show yourself
Speaker 1: to me. As I said those words. The darkness faded,
Speaker 1: and what appeared in front of me is hard to describe.
Speaker 1: Think of a smoky apparition, and that is what this
Speaker 1: looked like. I could see what appeared to be the
Speaker 1: outline of a robe, and I said, you said you
Speaker 1: were there with me as my dad beat me. Why
Speaker 1: didn't you try to stop it? The voice said, I
Speaker 1: was there with you. I felt every smack of his
Speaker 1: fist and the leather belt that he used to hit you.
Speaker 1: I lessened the more severe blows that you experienced. I said,
Speaker 1: stop skirting my questions. Why didn't you stop it? The
Speaker 1: voice responded, it was a choice that was made long
Speaker 1: ago that I would not fully interfere in the lives
Speaker 1: of man. The only way I would assist is if
Speaker 1: you asked me for help and found your way to me.
Speaker 1: Alexei said, I asked you to strike him dead, yet
Speaker 1: you didn't do what I asked. The voice said, I
Speaker 1: want to show you something. I walked closer, and the
Speaker 1: only thing I can describe was a projector I saw
Speaker 1: that night, but I decided to run away. I saw
Speaker 1: myself going into my parents room, grabbing my dad's pants
Speaker 1: off the ground and grabbing his wallet and taking all
Speaker 1: of his money. What I hadn't known that night was
Speaker 1: that my dad had been watching me, and the projector
Speaker 1: showed some sort of boulder that was on top of
Speaker 1: my dad's back, making it unable for him to move.
Speaker 1: The projector showed me going through my mom's purse and
Speaker 1: that mom had left a lot more money in her
Speaker 1: purse than she normally does. The projector then showed me
Speaker 1: sleeping behind the railroad tracks as it kept me hidden
Speaker 1: from the police. The voice said, now, see, Alexei, I
Speaker 1: have always been with you. I heard your cries for help.
Speaker 1: I did not abandon you. I cannot stop you from
Speaker 1: taking your own life by being reckless, and I cannot
Speaker 1: help you if you will not let me. I just
Speaker 1: want the pain to stop, and I wanted to go away,
Speaker 1: the voice said, Alexei, It is up to you. You
Speaker 1: can call it quits now and remain in this hell
Speaker 1: that you created, or you can choose to go back
Speaker 1: through your life and it will become more difficult, but
Speaker 1: with work you will break free and become what you
Speaker 1: were destined to be. All souls have free will, including yours.
Speaker 1: Alexey said, Okay, fine, I am ready to wake up.
Speaker 1: The voice said, take care, my child, I'll see you soon,
Speaker 1: and disappeared. I opened my eyes to find Julia hovering
Speaker 1: over me, tears running down her face, hyperventilating, trying to
Speaker 1: catch her breath. I thought you were dead, Like Luca
Speaker 1: and Nat they're dead, Alexey, they're gone, and I thought
Speaker 1: you were too. I won't read to you the full story,
Speaker 1: but Alexey cleaned himself up. He and Julia got married.
Speaker 1: They moved to the United States. He went to college.
Speaker 1: He got his bachelor's degree in computer science in our
Speaker 1: officially now Americans, we'll be right back with the medium
Speaker 1: demonstration I was telling you about earlier. You're listening to
Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and
Speaker 1: Coast to Coast a M Paranormal Podcast Network. Stare right there.
Speaker 1: There's more Sandra coming right out. Thanks for listening to
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Speaker 1: Keep it right here on the I Heart Radio and
Speaker 1: Coast to Coast am Irnormal Podcast that more. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. In our
Speaker 1: next segment, I want to play that medium demonstration from
Speaker 1: our last Sunday gathering. Imagine we're on Zoom. We have
Speaker 1: around two hundred people in our online congregation. The medium
Speaker 1: will give several bits of information out the people. Participants
Speaker 1: can press their virtual raise hand button if they understand
Speaker 1: the information about their loved one who is in the afterlife.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes a couple of minutes to get to
Speaker 1: the right person, and that happened in this demonstration. So
Speaker 1: I will do a bit of editing so there's not
Speaker 1: the long time waiting for people to raise their hand.
Speaker 1: In this instance, our medium, which is the fabulous Carrie McLeod,
Speaker 1: was looking for someone who was very fit and healthy
Speaker 1: and died at the gym. So let's listen. I need
Speaker 1: to speak to somebody in our audience who knows a
Speaker 1: young man in the spirit world and I feel he
Speaker 1: would have enjoyed going to the gym or physical activity.
Speaker 1: But I actually feel and he's only young, anything under
Speaker 1: forty young when you get to a bit older, don't
Speaker 1: we But I know he takes a cardiac arrest or. No,
Speaker 1: I know he has a cardiac arrest, and I do
Speaker 1: feel it would be completely unexpected because he's a fit man.
Speaker 1: He takes care of himself. He looks after himself. At
Speaker 1: this point, about four people pressed their raised hand button.
Speaker 1: Then would one of the people with her hands up
Speaker 1: know that this happened whilst he was at the gym
Speaker 1: or running or exercising or doing his sport, because I
Speaker 1: do feel that this is closely linked with happy passes.
Speaker 1: So at this point she broadened the information, and I'm
Speaker 1: the moderator in a ton of people's hands went up.
Speaker 1: So I told her that this young man must have
Speaker 1: attended a gym, because I do feel he's was it
Speaker 1: pushing metal and he's doing all sorts of I do
Speaker 1: feel like he has I'm sorry, dear, but he has
Speaker 1: rather large muscles on him, so I do feel like
Speaker 1: he wanted to be rather large and cheap. All right,
Speaker 1: we have William with his hand raised. Bring in William,
Speaker 1: could you press your own mute button? Welcome? Hi? Will
Speaker 1: you even know this gentleman quite well? I believe it's
Speaker 1: my son, And okay, wasn't a heart attack, it was
Speaker 1: a pulmonary embolism. Okay, from an accident at the gym. Okay,
Speaker 1: then if this is correctly, William, let me work with
Speaker 1: this for a second. For you, it must have um
Speaker 1: there wasn't any coming back from it, William, would you
Speaker 1: understand it that way? Yes, okay, And with your son
Speaker 1: he had rather a large physique. Yes, he had actually
Speaker 1: just won an international. Don't give me information, William, because
Speaker 1: I can't give you that. And then I don't want
Speaker 1: you questioning what you're getting here, because I do know
Speaker 1: he has a rather large physique here, and I know
Speaker 1: he must have been one of those lovely gentlemen who
Speaker 1: couldn't close his arms because his muscles were quite large
Speaker 1: underneath and round about his chest. I also, I know
Speaker 1: you've given me about that competition, but I feel like
Speaker 1: he would have been well known in his community, very well. Know.
Speaker 1: I also know he would have liked being and you
Speaker 1: would have liked getting attention. Yes, because I not only
Speaker 1: as he got this large physique, but I also know
Speaker 1: he had a great personality. But I also want to
Speaker 1: say that he could catch the eye of the women, Yes,
Speaker 1: very much. And I need to also say that I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he was inappropriate in any way. But he
Speaker 1: would often have numbers of women following him, not stalking,
Speaker 1: but following him. Yes, and I know when he was
Speaker 1: out with guy, he must have worn very tight tops, yes,
Speaker 1: but long sleeved tight tops, because all I can see
Speaker 1: is those muscles coming through. I know Phil has one
Speaker 1: of those skin colored rulen knitwear, and I feel like
Speaker 1: he would have worn tops like that with a zip right,
Speaker 1: even in very cold weather. I do feel that he
Speaker 1: would have found this most the musing and he would
Speaker 1: have milked it to somewhat, to some degree how people
Speaker 1: would have been drawn to him. He loved that attention.
Speaker 1: But I also have the sense that he must have
Speaker 1: advertised some sort of protein shake or certain foods. Yes,
Speaker 1: he was involved in that verse. Okay, because but he
Speaker 1: must have been like the person that was used for advertisement.
Speaker 1: We do you know he had advertised or would use
Speaker 1: for advertisement for me? Yes, okay, because I do feel
Speaker 1: he reveled in this. I do feel a chuckle going
Speaker 1: in behind the scenes with him that not only is
Speaker 1: he's got this physique, but he's actually showing this protein
Speaker 1: shake or this food. Yes, that's it. But he didn't
Speaker 1: hold back with his words. I do get a sense
Speaker 1: that he would have been very open about all aspects
Speaker 1: of himself with me only. Okay, I know you're saying
Speaker 1: with you only, but I want to say there must
Speaker 1: have been jokes that he would say about um, his
Speaker 1: shape and his size. He would have shared that with people, Yes,
Speaker 1: but he would have made a joke out of it too.
Speaker 1: But I do think I can't put this on any
Speaker 1: Your son could be quite rude with his language, not offensive,
Speaker 1: but quite rude, well in a in a very humorous way. Yes,
Speaker 1: because I know he showed me and I know what
Speaker 1: I'm feeling, but I can't say it right. So I
Speaker 1: know that there's a sense of him. I also know
Speaker 1: that he included you. You must have had some involvement
Speaker 1: with his body building or his weights practice, Yes, I did.
Speaker 1: And then you must have also gone I with him
Speaker 1: because I know that he gives me this feeling of
Speaker 1: you and him were tight. Yes, And I know he's
Speaker 1: so grateful for that time together. And I know you
Speaker 1: on more than one occasion try to point your son
Speaker 1: in the right direction, because I do know he could
Speaker 1: sometimes make wrong decisions based on what he thought was
Speaker 1: cool in the moment. I wouldn't say wrong. I would
Speaker 1: just say a direction that I thought I would be
Speaker 1: more benefitial to. Okay, because I do feel this gratitude
Speaker 1: for shifting him from what he's showing me. While you,
Speaker 1: you must be quite a bit smaller than your son.
Speaker 1: Oh well, that's not going to be difficult. But I
Speaker 1: do feel like little you is directing your your son,
Speaker 1: who's a bit bigger, in the direction he needs to go. Yes,
Speaker 1: it almost feels like he's grateful for the direction. But
Speaker 1: all so the way you managed his expectations. Yes, and
Speaker 1: he would have I know you said he entered competitions,
Speaker 1: but there must have been many medals and awards that
Speaker 1: he won for this body building. Yes, I still have
Speaker 1: them on my mantle. Okay, there must be one in
Speaker 1: particular that he No, Okay, I've got that slightly wrong.
Speaker 1: There must have been one competition in particular that he
Speaker 1: was working towards that he didn't make it too. Yes,
Speaker 1: and he wants to acknowledge that. Um, there was a
Speaker 1: sense of Camorado ship each person that wasn't it was
Speaker 1: a competition, but not against each other. There seems that
Speaker 1: there was a real sense of togetherness with all the
Speaker 1: guys and gals in those competitions. That is exactly correct,
Speaker 1: and I know that's what he wants to bring it
Speaker 1: for you, William, is the sense of togetherness, not just
Speaker 1: with everybody in the competitions, because I do get the
Speaker 1: feeling that you still support them. He is supporting you.
Speaker 1: I know that you have found not just since his passing,
Speaker 1: but I know your son gives me this feeling of
Speaker 1: you finding the last three months incredibly challenging. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: indeed yes. And I know you have looked at photographs
Speaker 1: of your son and the meadows of your son and
Speaker 1: cannot believe what has transpired. But I also need to say,
Speaker 1: you must have a particular glass that you drink out
Speaker 1: of that makes you think of your son. Well, I
Speaker 1: do have a particular glass that I drink out of
Speaker 1: every day, but it's not necessarily connected to my son.
Speaker 1: But you're right, particular glass. But I know this. He
Speaker 1: shows me this particular glass. And I know also that
Speaker 1: there is a whole series of photographs of him. But
Speaker 1: you must you have a photograph that you've looked at
Speaker 1: within the last months of him as a small boy
Speaker 1: and he's small, yes, right, within the last I will
Speaker 1: saying within the last six weeks. Okay, I know this
Speaker 1: is his way of saying, I see what the glass
Speaker 1: you're drinking out of, Dad, I see what photographs you've
Speaker 1: looked at in the last four to six weeks. And
Speaker 1: I know that you're still supporting because I am there
Speaker 1: with you. Please know that this is your son's way
Speaker 1: of reaching out to you to say he sees what's
Speaker 1: happening with you, and he is still very much there.
Speaker 1: He also needs to acknowledge that there is nothing that
Speaker 1: anybody could have done, including you, that would have stopped
Speaker 1: this happening. I know he gives me the impression that
Speaker 1: you have racked your brain about could I should I
Speaker 1: or mustn't I have done? There's nothing different than could
Speaker 1: have been. It was just one of those things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, exactly right about that. And William, you would
Speaker 1: have known one of the paramedics that turned up on
Speaker 1: scene for your son. No, I wasn't there. His was there,
Speaker 1: but one of them. And I think she knew one
Speaker 1: of the paramedics. Okay, because I know he wants to
Speaker 1: acknowledge that one of the paramedics that turned up was known,
Speaker 1: and that that paramedic knows that they did all that
Speaker 1: they could, but the please know there's nothing in addition
Speaker 1: that could have been done at all. And if you
Speaker 1: could let his partner know that he's been here, I
Speaker 1: will thank you. Thank you very much William for allowing
Speaker 1: me to do that. Thank you. I know this reading
Speaker 1: made a difference for the dad, and I think it
Speaker 1: made a difference for everybody. You could just pick or
Speaker 1: that young man with those big muscles, couldn't you and
Speaker 1: holding that protein shake. A good mediumship reading can make
Speaker 1: a difference for all recipients. So it's that time for
Speaker 1: the break. We'll be right back. You're listening to Shades
Speaker 1: of the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and Coast
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Speaker 1: you're listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to
Speaker 1: Coast a M Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades
Speaker 1: of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain. I wasn't kidding you
Speaker 1: when I said I have a lot of books on
Speaker 1: the afterlife, and I continue to get more. Just a
Speaker 1: few episodes ago, episode one and seventeen, I interviewed Dr
Speaker 1: Piero Calvi Parisetti, author of the book Step into the Light,
Speaker 1: Transform Your Fear of Death by Learning about Life After Life,
Speaker 1: and I've been reading it. Yes, I have probably fifteen
Speaker 1: books by my bedside, and every so often I pick
Speaker 1: up one, read a little bit here, read a little
Speaker 1: bit there. But there's a term you may not have
Speaker 1: heard of. It's called vertical perceptions. Vertical perceptions are things
Speaker 1: will can verify during a near death experience that is
Speaker 1: happening in another room or another place where they shouldn't
Speaker 1: be able to see them or experience them because the
Speaker 1: brain is not functioning. So I'd like to read from
Speaker 1: his book, we understand that people with no functioning brain
Speaker 1: have complex experiences. This in itself is quite extraordinary. But
Speaker 1: another question arises, how do we know that these are
Speaker 1: real experiences and not just dreams. In order to answer that,
Speaker 1: you have to look at what near death experiencers report
Speaker 1: about the initial phases of the experience. When they find
Speaker 1: themselves out of their body. They often remain for certain
Speaker 1: time in physical proximity of their dead body and register
Speaker 1: many details about the environment, the people, the resuscitation procedures,
Speaker 1: for example, as demons traded by numerous clever scientific studies.
Speaker 1: What near death experiencers report about this phase is not
Speaker 1: a dream or fantasy. They report a number of exact details, which,
Speaker 1: when checked against medical records, are found to be entirely correct.
Speaker 1: It indeed looks like near death experiencers can see and
Speaker 1: hear from a point of view outside their physical body,
Speaker 1: which at that point is not functioning in any way.
Speaker 1: To give you an idea of how striking such accounts
Speaker 1: can be, let me briefly tell you the story reported
Speaker 1: in a scientific publication by Kimberly Clark, a critical care
Speaker 1: worker at Harbor View Hospital in Seattle. The case involves
Speaker 1: a woman named Maria, a migrant worker who suffered a
Speaker 1: heart attack while visiting relatives in Seattle and went through
Speaker 1: a cardiac arrest while in the coronary care unit. After
Speaker 1: having been resuscitated, Maria reported to Clark having a near
Speaker 1: death experience. Clark, who had heard of near death experiences,
Speaker 1: but was skeptical of them, listened with what she described
Speaker 1: as a feigned but seemingly emphatic respect to the patient's
Speaker 1: account of the experience. Clark reports that inwardly, she was
Speaker 1: finding plausible explanations to dismiss the various elements of a
Speaker 1: fairly typical near death account until Maria mentioned something bizarre.
Speaker 1: At a certain point, Maria told Clark that she had
Speaker 1: not merely remained looking down from the ceiling, but found
Speaker 1: herself outside the hospital. Specifically, she said, having been distracted
Speaker 1: by an object on the ledge on the third floor
Speaker 1: of the north wing of the building, she thought herself
Speaker 1: up there, and when she arrived, she found herself, as
Speaker 1: Clark put it, eyeball to shoe lace, with of all things,
Speaker 1: a tennis shoe on the ledge of the third floor
Speaker 1: of the north wing of the building. Maria then proceeded
Speaker 1: to describe the shoe in minute detail, mentioning, among other things,
Speaker 1: that the little toe had a worn place in the
Speaker 1: shoe and that one of its laces was tucked underneath
Speaker 1: the heel. Maria herself got emotional and insisted that Clark
Speaker 1: should try to locate the shoe, as she desperately needed
Speaker 1: to know whether she had really seen it. The north
Speaker 1: face of Harbor View Hospital is slender, with only five
Speaker 1: windows showing from the third floor. When Clark arrived there,
Speaker 1: she didn't find any shoe until she came to the
Speaker 1: middlemost window on the floor, and there on the ledge,
Speaker 1: precisely as Maria had described, it was the tennis shoe.
Speaker 1: The question is here, what is the probability that a
Speaker 1: migrant worker visiting a large city for the first time,
Speaker 1: who suffers a heart attack and is rushed to a
Speaker 1: hospital at night, would, while having a cardiac arrest, simply
Speaker 1: hallucinate a tennis shoe with very specific and unusual features
Speaker 1: on the ledge of a floor higher than that of
Speaker 1: her physical location at the hospital. Clark herself wrote, the
Speaker 1: only way she could have had such a perspective was
Speaker 1: if she had been floating right outside and at very
Speaker 1: close range to the tennis shoe. I retrieved the shoe,
Speaker 1: and I brought it to Maria, and every detail was correct. Okay,
Speaker 1: Here he talks about the blind experiences. The reality of
Speaker 1: the near death experience is supported by another and even
Speaker 1: more extraordinary line of research, the study of the congenitally
Speaker 1: blind mind. To be clear, the international Council of Ophthalmology
Speaker 1: defines congenital blindness as a complete lack of form and
Speaker 1: visual perception since birth, and is commonly referred to as
Speaker 1: no light perception. Psychiatrist Stanislav Graff purports that site in
Speaker 1: congenitally near death experiences is medically inexplicable. There are reported
Speaker 1: cases where individuals who are blind because of medically confirmed
Speaker 1: organic damage to their optical system could, at the time
Speaker 1: of clinical death see the environment. Occurrences of this kind
Speaker 1: can be subjected to objective verification. They thus represent the
Speaker 1: most convincing proof of what happens in near death experiences
Speaker 1: is more than hallucinatory phantasm magoria of psychologically impaired brains.
Speaker 1: In accord with Groff, psychologists Kenneth Ring and Sharon Cooper
Speaker 1: decided to conduct the most in depth study ever undertaken
Speaker 1: of near death experiences and the blind. The objective of
Speaker 1: their study was to ascertain if the blind experience the
Speaker 1: same vertical occurrences as the sited. The blind indeed appeared
Speaker 1: to see for the first time in their lives during
Speaker 1: a near death experience. However, they do not retain sight
Speaker 1: when they return to their bodies. Interestingly, the research ascertained
Speaker 1: from the narratives of the blind were indistinguishable from those
Speaker 1: of the sited. According to the two authors, the analysis
Speaker 1: of persons blind from birth provide the strongest and conventionally
Speaker 1: most explicable data pertaining to the proposition that the blind
Speaker 1: may actually see during their near death experience. Prances Ring
Speaker 1: and Cooper consider Vicky to be one of the most
Speaker 1: compelling and verifiable cases of the congenitally blind ever recorded.
Speaker 1: Vicky was born blind due to severe and irreversible optic
Speaker 1: nerve damage. Asked in an interview if she has ever
Speaker 1: been able to see, she replied, nothing. Never, No light,
Speaker 1: no shadows, no nothing. Ever, I've never been able to
Speaker 1: understand even the concept of light. Thus, the visual components
Speaker 1: of her near death experience are astonishing. After a near
Speaker 1: fatal car accident and suffering from brain damage, Vicky was
Speaker 1: rushed to the hospital in a coma. She recalls her
Speaker 1: experience by stating, and it was frightening because I'm not
Speaker 1: accustomed to see things visually, because I never had before,
Speaker 1: And initially it was pretty scary, and then I finally
Speaker 1: reckon nized my wedding ring and my hair, and then
Speaker 1: I thought is that my body down there? Am I dead?
Speaker 1: Or what? They kept saying, We can't bring her back,
Speaker 1: We can't bring her back, and they were trying to
Speaker 1: frantically work on this thing that I discovered was my body,
Speaker 1: and I felt very detached from it and sort of
Speaker 1: so what And I was thinking, what are these people
Speaker 1: getting so upset about? Upon resuscitation, Vicky described seeing her
Speaker 1: crumpled Volkswagen Van. Additionally, she saw herself floating above the
Speaker 1: stretcher and traveling to the hospital's roof, where she experienced
Speaker 1: a three hundred and sixty degree panoramic view of the
Speaker 1: hospital grounds. Vicky's surgical team later verified her account description
Speaker 1: of the wedding ring and the precise account of both
Speaker 1: the hospital rounds and the damage to her Volkswagen Van.
Speaker 1: He goes on in this chapter about so many other things.
Speaker 1: Again this is Step into the Light by Piero Calvi Parisetti,
Speaker 1: but at the end of this chapter he talks about
Speaker 1: the conclusions. One there is nothing whatsoever to fear about death.
Speaker 1: Two dying is peaceful and beautiful. Three Life does not
Speaker 1: begin with birth and does not end with death. Four
Speaker 1: Life is precious. Live it to the fullest Five. The
Speaker 1: body and its senses are a tremendous gift. Appreciate them.
Speaker 1: Six what matters most in life is love. Seven. Living
Speaker 1: a life oriented towards materialistic acquisition is missing the point. Eight.
Speaker 1: Cooperation rather than competition makes for a better world. Nine.
Speaker 1: Being a big success in life is not all it
Speaker 1: is cracked up to be. And ten seeking knowledge is important.
Speaker 1: You take that with you. Isn't that something we take
Speaker 1: it with us? I know that you know that our
Speaker 1: personalities survive. We will survive, just as our loved ones
Speaker 1: are still living. Time for one more break and then
Speaker 1: we'll be back. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife
Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM
Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. Don't go anywhere. There's more Shades of
Speaker 1: the Afterlife coming right up. H You're listening to the
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Speaker 1: I'm Sanders Champlain and in this segment we're going to
Speaker 1: hear from my old friend Eric Well. I call him
Speaker 1: old friend for two reasons. I first learned of Eric
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and sixteen when I attended Banion
Speaker 1: Retreat in the UK and met physical and trance medium
Speaker 1: Scott Milligan. For the last three years, almost every Friday,
Speaker 1: we spend an hour and a half together, first sitting
Speaker 1: for healing, sending healing out to people in the world,
Speaker 1: and the second part is a demonstration of trance mediumship.
Speaker 1: Scott Milligan has been sitting on behalf of the spirit
Speaker 1: world and humanity for over twenty five years, and the
Speaker 1: voice you will hear is Eric Robert Johnson who passed
Speaker 1: away near the end of the eighteen hundreds, so his
Speaker 1: voice is definitely old style. He is as down to
Speaker 1: earth as they get, with a personality and a sense
Speaker 1: of humor completely different from that of the medium Scott Milligan.
Speaker 1: There's an interesting question that I asked him on behalf
Speaker 1: of one of the members of the audience at the beginning,
Speaker 1: followed by Eric mentioning about how good his memory is.
Speaker 1: And I didn't pick on it at first, but Scott
Speaker 1: Milligan has a terrible memory for names, just terrible. He
Speaker 1: just can't remember names. On our trance demonstrations. Eric never
Speaker 1: forgets anyone's names, so he mentions that towards the end,
Speaker 1: I thought you could all use a little inspiration from
Speaker 1: an old friend. I have received many signs and communications
Speaker 1: from my son in the spirit world. I can, however,
Speaker 1: go quite a few weeks or months and not receive anything.
Speaker 1: Is this because he thinks I am doing okay? Or
Speaker 1: is it because he can't get his message through to me?
Speaker 1: I would love to receive his messages more. But am
Speaker 1: I asking too much? How much? Is it too much
Speaker 1: to show someone that you truly care for them? Ask away,
Speaker 1: my dear friend, Ask away? But may I say this
Speaker 1: to you? Your world is governed by time. Could you
Speaker 1: imagine a world without time? To us in the world
Speaker 1: at a weight show, a brief moment can be many days.
Speaker 1: May I tell you this story fers? Yes, of course,
Speaker 1: since I've been within this wonderful vibration called by many names.
Speaker 1: But as I've said, the summer land, I myself often
Speaker 1: a fall of watching cricket, not partaking, but watching. I
Speaker 1: have been a mining game but hasn't ended yet. More
Speaker 1: people are joining are taken. But Sandra, my friend, or
Speaker 1: remind me of your year two thousand twenty three. It
Speaker 1: doesn't seem possible I passed from your world in the
Speaker 1: year eighteen ninety two. To me, now, this game has
Speaker 1: lasted a summer's afternoon, but in your world many years
Speaker 1: have passed. So, my friend, now we turn it back
Speaker 1: to our dear friend Elizabeth, who is blessed with the
Speaker 1: opportunity to have the signs I've ever lost in love.
Speaker 1: It made me that your dear boy has just taken
Speaker 1: a moment before he knocks again. But to you, many
Speaker 1: days may have passed. He doesn't fall out of love
Speaker 1: with you. He does not think that your thoughts are
Speaker 1: annoyance in natuality, my friend, he is inspired, inspired to
Speaker 1: know that you know that he's thinking fundly of you. Often,
Speaker 1: and sometimes, my friends, you see signposts of greater things
Speaker 1: to come. So never believe that we have left you,
Speaker 1: and never believe for one moment that you're holding us
Speaker 1: back to us, it is merely an afternoon until you
Speaker 1: join us. So, my friend, you desire more, then, my friend,
Speaker 1: more will be. But some may say, my friend, that
Speaker 1: you are truthly blessed. There are others who are listening
Speaker 1: to these words, who have had no signs at all.
Speaker 1: That may be your inquiry has given a sign to
Speaker 1: someone else knowing that their family member lives in a
Speaker 1: summer's after known. But maybe many hears to those who
Speaker 1: hear these words. And so, my friend, as I have said,
Speaker 1: the knock on the door, that may be the sign
Speaker 1: of a knock, or even the flash of light when
Speaker 1: there is no one there. So, my friend, I say
Speaker 1: this to you. You may be more in true with
Speaker 1: your dear son than you would accept. Maybe the signs
Speaker 1: were merely the beginning, and now he thinks in a
Speaker 1: different way. When you think of happy memories, he's thinking
Speaker 1: with you. It is kindness that you have given me.
Speaker 1: But may I say an observation, As you know the
Speaker 1: link stronger than many here, what is his recall of names?
Speaker 1: You can the link the one we love remember people's name? No,
Speaker 1: he cannot. Very well. Then I have demonstrated this day
Speaker 1: that I am separate to his mind, for I have
Speaker 1: remembered the names of everyone who has inquired. It is
Speaker 1: a simple thing, I think, but just an observation. As
Speaker 1: many of you may question, is it possible of a
Speaker 1: world that seems invisible to my senses? Can you step
Speaker 1: forward and possess me. No I cannot. But if I
Speaker 1: could step forward and romance your soul, for your soul
Speaker 1: to fall in love with someone who is now in
Speaker 1: the spirit, or we choose each other and around each
Speaker 1: of you are people of my world. Stand in silent
Speaker 1: or speaking and sharing. Our world will never turn the
Speaker 1: back up on you. We will always be there or
Speaker 1: we have no time that governs or commands us. So,
Speaker 1: my friends, once again, time in your world is spent,
Speaker 1: and I stand within the golden shaws. I do not
Speaker 1: mourn you, but I thank God, however you seek God
Speaker 1: to be, that has granted me the gift to now
Speaker 1: call your friend. You will always remain upon my soul,
Speaker 1: spiritual heart that is constantly evolving, as I haven't got
Speaker 1: my wings yet. But if you say your child is
Speaker 1: an angel, not a truer word has once said your
Speaker 1: children are angels. But aren't we all children that? Huh?
Speaker 1: So my fins be angels, walk upon your world, speak
Speaker 1: for truth, all in and out of love. But remember
Speaker 1: love will always be Love will always be the gift
Speaker 1: you share. Good day to you, my fin good day, Eric,
Speaker 1: Thank you so very much. You are always welcome to
Speaker 1: join us on a Friday, or watch one of our
Speaker 1: past replays. There's got to be a hundred of them.
Speaker 1: Just go to Wheat Don't Die dot com, go to
Speaker 1: the store page and if you scroll to the bottom
Speaker 1: you can see a whole bunch. Just use coupon code
Speaker 1: free and be my guest. And while you're there, of course,
Speaker 1: sign up for the next Sunday gathering. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I've mentioned this before, but every so often I'd
Speaker 1: like to dabble on ancestry dot com and check out
Speaker 1: my lineage. And the past few days I have been
Speaker 1: researching my fifth great grandfather. His name was Prince Champlain
Speaker 1: and he actually came over on a slave boat from Africa.
Speaker 1: There's not too much written about him. There are some
Speaker 1: things about his brother, who fought in the Revolutionary War,
Speaker 1: and I think finding out about our history is incredible.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be nice if we had more people sitting
Speaker 1: for trans mediumship to possibly give one of our great
Speaker 1: grandparents a voice again with inspiration and love from their world,
Speaker 1: anything is possible, absolutely anything. Never think you are alone.
Speaker 1: You have a team so mighty standing beside you and
Speaker 1: behind you. Guides, loved ones, relatives that you'll meet someday.
Speaker 1: No need to fear. Life is the hardest part of
Speaker 1: our journey right now. Do the best you can, and
Speaker 1: every single bit of it is something important to your soul.
Speaker 1: From the bottom of my heart, I want to thank
Speaker 1: you for listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
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