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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Nol.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben.

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Speaker 4: We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the

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Speaker 4: Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are you. You are here.

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Speaker 4: That makes this the stuff they don't want you to

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Speaker 4: know around the world. Folks, Welcome to Monday, January twenty

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Speaker 4: sixth by the Curtain. We're recording on Wednesday, January twenty first,

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Speaker 4: and we couldn't be more excited to hang out with

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Speaker 4: you guys. One of my favorite things, and I hope

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Speaker 4: it's all of our favorite things. Right before we start

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Speaker 4: rolling on strange news or listener mail, is just talking

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Speaker 4: through different stuff that we might or might not cover.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys have heard about this week.

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Speaker 4: We've got a lot of serious stuff, obviously because the

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Speaker 4: world is burning down. But did you guys hear about

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Speaker 4: that game stop hack that just got game? Oh yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: so this is this is so tough. This is a

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Speaker 4: throwaway mentioned, but recently we learned that a guy figured

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Speaker 4: out an infinite glitch to get money from GameStop.

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Speaker 3: Okay, giving a little back to the community. I guess right,

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Speaker 3: game Stop after that whole meme stock situation that they created.

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Speaker 4: Yes, did you guys ever mess with game Stop? I

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Speaker 4: feel like a lot of us did.

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Speaker 3: Well. Sure, you know, it's one of those things. I

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Speaker 3: think I look at it more as a browsing store

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Speaker 3: than a store I actually spend money. I do like

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Speaker 3: to take a little lap through the game Stop, which

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Speaker 3: takes all of thirty seconds, because they're, you know, usually

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Speaker 4: What about you, met?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm all about this game Stop, game Stop,

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Speaker 2: game stock, all the things I love games. I'm reading

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Speaker 2: about this right now.

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Speaker 4: Ben, Yes, this is insane, so okay, yeah, this is weird.

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Speaker 4: All right, we'll go to dexter Toe by Michael william

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Speaker 4: is the writer for this when this came out, actually

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Speaker 4: this was published today as we're recording, a YouTuber has

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Speaker 4: figured out an infinite money glitch. You can buy a

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Speaker 4: switch to and return it to get even more money back.

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Speaker 4: A lot of asterisks here. There's a guy named rjc Media.

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Speaker 4: What he would do is he'd buy the switch to

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Speaker 4: and then when he purchased a pre owned a used game,

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Speaker 4: like everybody does, game stop, he'd he'd braid it back.

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Speaker 4: He trade the switch to. He just bought back with

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Speaker 4: the used game, and he paid four hundred and fifteen

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Speaker 3: Well, he.

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Speaker 4: He made about thirty bucks each time, because.

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Speaker 3: He's been doing times, you know, and hundreds.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the craziest thing.

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Speaker 3: It seems like a lot of effort for not very

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Speaker 3: much return. But exactly I assume if it's in the

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Speaker 4: Eventually, Jake closed it down because his video exposed the

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Speaker 4: and it does seem it does seem a little bit

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Speaker 4: too much work for thirty bucks. But also I think

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Speaker 4: of the infinite grind to increase your stats by small increments.

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Speaker 4: So if it was a video game, he would never

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Speaker 4: leave the game stop until he had one thousand dollars, right, he.

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Speaker 3: Would just like farming for gear or like ruins or whatever,

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Speaker 4: He would just buy the same switch too, is what

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No. A buddy of mine figured out a

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Speaker 3: similar glitch with meat at Kroger. If you can find

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Speaker 2: So just walking around it with a giant I don't

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Speaker 3: You know, but then he's having he was like a

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Speaker 3: don't remember the details exactly neat grift y'all, but it

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's like the old airline miles grift or the

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Speaker 4: getting a jet through Pepsi through Pepsi groupons. Well, we

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Speaker 3: But well, one could also argue that the YouTube video

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Speaker 4: It is all for clicks, right, Yeah. What's good to

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Speaker 4: thirty dollars a time doing a street level switch griftsrifts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, I love street level switch Grifts and I

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Speaker 3: also want We're gonna get to butt Science, which our

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Speaker 3: Dell the Funky Homo Sapien, and also Grift, which is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we're also going to talk about uh, some

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Speaker 4: darker stories, some incredible science, not just with butts, but

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Speaker 4: with fool use horse. We're gonna get into some spycraft

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Speaker 4: before we do any of that. Because how about we

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Speaker 4: Okay, it finally happened. We're finally this under the category

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Speaker 4: finally happened. A group of nuns have been confirmed to

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Speaker 4: be aspir ring infiltrating Sweden working for the Kremlin.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's some nonsense right there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there it is.

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Speaker 3: There's a whole category of movies on Criterion right now

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Speaker 4: Oh man, this is nuts, right, So let's go to

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Speaker 4: the telegraph. We'll give you the quick skiddy here just

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Speaker 4: because we love the headline. The Church of Sweden has

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Speaker 4: the nuns, yes, sort of like the Z forces that

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Speaker 4: This has been this has been something that the Church

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Speaker 3: mean not that all spycraft isn't to some degree, but

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Speaker 3: like there's a certain trust that goes with nuns and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, especially when especially in areas that are less secular

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Speaker 4: and during times when religion was you know, no value

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Speaker 4: from the German Democratic Republic sovietyist Germany. If three game

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Speaker 3: You know, That's what I happened, Like dirty Pool, it

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Speaker 3: just seems like not fair play, but again, spycraft ism

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Speaker 4: I mean, think about the rat Line programs which exfiltrated

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Speaker 3: Isn't there some things out in the world are treated

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Speaker 2: Wasn't there something? Guys? Maybe I'm misremembering this. I feel

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Speaker 4: I vaguely remember it, and you're right on your right

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Speaker 4: in terms of dissemination of information, right and functioning as

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Speaker 4: safe harbors for all kinds of things, right. I mean,

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Speaker 4: many imperfections of the Catholic Church and the many cover

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Speaker 4: But the headline alone pro buten spy nuns infiltrating Sweden.

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Speaker 4: these clandestine organizations. And what they were doing is they

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Speaker 4: now on the road is these these little canisters. I'm

438
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Speaker 4: in a place to.

439
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 3: Sure like a smelling salt on the scale.

440
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 4: Like, what's that word, insulflate, insulflate, insulfates. Yes, correct, there

441
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 4: are these little canisters where I'm at right now. They're

442
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 4: very popular because it's kind of a smelling place depending

443
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 4: on the season, and you'll see people walking around and

444
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 4: just taking one of these things and giving it a snarf,

445
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 4: And it really freaked me out at first because it

446
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 4: looks like old Victorian snuff.

447
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 3: Sure they're not doing poppers, ben, I.

448
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 4: Should ask the mill, but but maybe there's a way

449
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 4: to build that out with hydrogen sulfide. I don't know,

450
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 4: I don't know.

451
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: Isn't hydrogen sulfide a highly toxic gas. It's the rotten

452
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: egg smell gas, and it's the kind it is. Yeah,

453
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 2: you have to handle it really carefully when you're shipping

454
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: large quantities of it, let's say, in a canister or something,

455
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 2: because it's flammable and toxic.

456
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 4: And it might not just be the sulfide itself, because

457
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Speaker 4: I think the study, at least one of the co authors,

458
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 4: who gets quoted a lot, doctor Bindu Paul, has said

459
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 4: hydrogen sulfide and other gaseous molecules. So it might be

460
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 4: more of a cocktail, right than a straight shot a

461
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 4: stinky egg sulfurous for sure.

462
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Speaker 3: And I'm also unclear as to whether I mean, obviously

463
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Speaker 3: it's they're chasing headlines with the idea of smelling your

464
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: own farts, but I don't know that it has to.

465
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Speaker 4: Be your own, like it's not like stem cells or

466
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 4: something like this.

467
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 3: I think it can be just this this compound that

468
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: exists in farts, and I guess you know, you're certainly

469
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: not going to be smelling other people's farts. One would hope.

470
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Speaker 3: I'm my mistake, y'all. This study is out of Johns Hopkins,

471
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: not out of an institution in India. The head researcher

472
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: is of Indian DESSENTI what I was where I made

473
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Speaker 3: that mistake.

474
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Speaker 2: But let's just say there was a pastor somewhere I

475
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: don't know, yeah, in some country, and he has decided

476
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: that the farting pastor his farts can heal people. Are

477
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: we saying that potentially he might be right?

478
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 4: I think this is more like a broken clock is

479
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 4: right twice a day, a broken but farts twice a day,

480
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, in the right direction. So

481
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: that's also the history of medicine. You know, a lot

482
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: of trial and error in human.

483
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Speaker 3: What we're talking about over time. We're not a single

484
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: fart ain't going to cure your malady, and just like

485
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: a single cigarette isn't going to immediately give you lung cancer.

486
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got to.

487
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: It's what it comes to.

488
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 4: It comes to curative flagellation. It's all about the discipline.

489
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 4: It's about the restauran game. It's about showing up, eating

490
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 4: those beans in the morning and getting into a tight

491
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 4: enclosed room every single day, you know what I mean,

492
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 4: get your gains in for sure, you.

493
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 3: Gotta do the work. So just to close this one out,

494
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 3: according to the study. This from the India Defense Review piece.

495
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: Hydrogen sulfide, the same gas responsible for the smell of farts,

496
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: could help regulate the processes that lead to cognitive decline.

497
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: This is from the associate professor and co author of

498
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 3: the study. Our new data firmly link aging neuro degeneration

499
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: and cell signaling using hydrogen sulfide and other like you said,

500
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: ben gaseous molecules within the cell. So the core of

501
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: the study focused on how introducing the substance might actually

502
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: reverse the symptoms of Alzheimer's. The results, he says, showed

503
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: that the behavioral outcomes of Alzheimer's disease could be reversed

504
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: by introducing hydrogen sulfies. So this is good news.

505
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 4: This good news.

506
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Speaker 2: I just I mean, it's good news. I just don't

507
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: want to smell farts though.

508
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they were actually I said, you know,

509
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: I think sure, an injectable, perhaps a horse.

510
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: Pill, you know, yeah, like they were injected. And also,

511
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: we are ethically bound to point out something that comes

512
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 4: up a lot in these studies. Mice are great subjects

513
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 4: for experiments, right, if you put aside morals and concerns

514
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: for the animal's welfare. But just because something hurts or

515
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: helps a mouse does not mean it automatically will have

516
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 4: the same effect on humans. Sort of like humans love chocolate,

517
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 4: but dogs are going to get in trouble if they

518
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 4: eat it. Yeah, get real, real sick, guys.

519
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: Did you see the reports of this like purported furry

520
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 3: party that took place at mar A Lago?

521
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 4: Oh oh headline? I think, but I don't know much

522
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 4: else about it.

523
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: I think that is a mischaracterization.

524
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 3: Knowl it is okay, but you're not wrong. You're not wrong.

525
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: But it's fun. It's a lot of fun considering how

526
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: you know, remember all the talk from the right about

527
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: like litterboxes in classrooms and just sort of you know,

528
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: demonizing furries as being like sex pests or something like that. Well,

529
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 3: it's just it's just kind of interesting and a little

530
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: bit pop calling the kettle black. When you see footage

531
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: from this event where you have people in full dog

532
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: masks wearing like Victorian or I guess like kind of

533
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: Marie Antoinette era like costumes at this gala, this ball,

534
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 3: it's some very interesting stuff to see out of context.

535
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: But to your point, Matt, it is not It is

536
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: not a furry. It is, in fact a gala held

537
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: at mar A Lago thrown by the I Believe Humane Society.

538
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: It's called the Hero Dog Awards Gala, which took place

539
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: on January ninth of this year, and it involved you know,

540
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: obviously a high dollar plate you know, entry fee, and

541
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: the entertainment where these professional dancers kind of ballroom dancing

542
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: around the place dressed up as dogs. People are drawing

543
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: some very interesting parallels to let them eat cake kind

544
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: of talk, which obviously we know was not something that

545
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: really happened. I'm also seeing a lot of references to

546
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: the final Stanley Kubrick film, Eyes Wide Shut, and a

547
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 3: lot of conspiracy types, you know, bandying around ideas that

548
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: this is some sort of satanic blood ritual.

549
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Internet. That's why I said about eyes are

550
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 4: a wide shut for this, because look, yeah, man, whatever

551
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 4: the intention is, as noble as it may be, to

552
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 4: your point, no, the optics are non ideal. It's it

553
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 4: reminds me of for everyone anyone who got deep into

554
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 4: Roth's child lore back in the day. Uh, there were

555
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 4: a couple of really strange galas that that that dynasty

556
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: had where they were decked out and very eyes wide,

557
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: shutty stuff here. But I especially love your point about

558
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: about every accusation being a confession. How does that old

559
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 4: truism go or that.

560
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 3: I'm certainly seeing quite a bit of that. Lots of

561
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: memes about this, and then Gavin Newsom had a bit

562
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: of fun with that. One image that I keep seeing

563
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: pop up is that one where in the Shining they

564
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: walk in on a on a room where there's like

565
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: a dude in a dog costume doing some some naughty

566
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: stuff to another individual. Uh, and not to mention, this

567
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: is just one of a string of kind of oddly

568
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: ostentatious and tone deaf gala type events that are happening there,

569
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: and then soon will be happening at the White House

570
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: as well, with that insane ballroom that's under construction apparently

571
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: under budget as well. Guys, let's just go on.

572
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 4: I think there's I think it's an expansion subterranean of

573
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 4: an op center because.

574
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 3: It's so big, it's such a crazy footprint that I've

575
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: never heard of any I hadn't thought about that.

576
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 4: It's it's an eyeword's bread and circuses. It's look, this

577
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: is not a political statement. This is just an aesthetic statement,

578
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 4: it's you know what I mean. So the next question

579
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: is if they're going to knock down uh important parts

580
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 4: of such an historic building in the United States, Well,

581
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 4: Tom Waits would ask, what's he building in there?

582
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 2: Right?

583
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 4: What's he building under there?

584
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 2: An on site?

585
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 3: You never thought about that, Ben, it's a very good point.

586
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: Data center of some sort.

587
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, stay machine perhaps right right right back to underground

588
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 3: you know, dwelling. Yeah, mega bunker.

589
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 4: I love that suggestion for a chapter two on underground cities.

590
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 4: Everybody get a bunker, guys, invite us to your bunker.

591
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 4: What could go wrong?

592
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? What if it's just a giant as your friend,

593
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 3: what if it's just.

594
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: A giant uh bitcoin mining operation or something? You know

595
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: when it like I I know this administration is really

596
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: into e coins of all sorts and cryptocurrency. That it

597
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: would it would be awesome if they just built some

598
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 2: kind of mining operation down there.

599
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 4: It'd be Yeah, it would be on brand, you know,

600
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 4: because that's the one that's the one residence in the

601
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 4: United States where law enforcement is not really going to

602
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 4: run at you for a suspicious electricity bill.

603
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 3: It's a white house. It's true. It's expensive here, right, Uh,

604
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: No one hundred percent. Nothing more to that one. Really,

605
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: I just wanted to men that it's kind of funny

606
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: considering it's just the optics of a lot of these

607
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 3: events that they're throwing. Given the state of employment and

608
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 3: a lot of the other things that are going on

609
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 3: in this country, it just feels a little off. I agreed.

610
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 4: Maybe we should move, not just from this country. We're

611
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: gonna have an episode about how to get out of

612
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 4: the US how it actually works, but maybe we should

613
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 4: move off planet.

614
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: Man, what do you think I want to go to

615
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 3: the Moon stay in a giant bouncy castle, all right,

616
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: shark tank In theory, maybe one day you will be

617
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 3: able to a startup called grow like the battie in

618
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 3: Despicable Meat, which stands for Galactic Resource Utilization. Space Groove

619
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 3: Space plans to build an inflatable lunar hotel by the

620
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 3: year twenty thirty two. They are backed by Nvidia and

621
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 3: some other quite big tech concerns. They are doing this

622
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: inflatable version as like a like a test kind of thing,

623
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 3: or like they're sort of the pilot program before eventually

624
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: building a permanent lunar hotel using materials found on the

625
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 3: Moon's surface. Like literally fashioning and out of moon dust.

626
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: According to grow space and this is from tech round

627
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 3: dot co dot UK, the Lunar Hotel will be constructed

628
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: in stages. The first V one would be inflatable structure

629
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: built on Earth and transport it to the Moon in

630
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 3: partnership with SpaceX or a company like SpaceX. I don't

631
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: think they're direct sponsors or stakeholders in the project. The

632
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: inflatable structure will look to host up to four guests

633
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 3: for around five nights, and you could be one of

634
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 3: those four guests. We can reserve your spot now for

635
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: just a cool million. Actually it's the range says two

636
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand, two one million of the full

637
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: cost could run upwards of ten million dollars.

638
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 4: Oh well, that's just take it master level misleading, isn't

639
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 4: it guys? You know, how does it go from two

640
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty to a million to what you say? Told?

641
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: Well, no, no, the two fifty to one million is your

642
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: deposit just to like you, and I imagine it's you know,

643
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 3: how much you got to throw down will depend on

644
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: how likely you are to get confirmed, because it would

645
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: seem like it would be like it there's only four spots.

646
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't know what you want, you know. Also,

647
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 4: there are some stereotypes about very wealthy people, not to mention,

648
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 4: you know, perhaps smelling their own farts, maybe trying to

649
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: go down to the Titanic when the technology wasn't there

650
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 4: Are these the kind of people you would want to

651
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 4: be trapped with on the moon?

652
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 2: Is there a spa?

653
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 3: Do you get how there possibly could be four people? Why?

654
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Speaker 2: You know, enough water on the moon?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Explosive.

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Speaker 3: This is not only expensive, this is utterly moonshot kind

658
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Speaker 3: of idea, very pie in the sky they are planning

659
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Speaker 3: for this. It sounds like they're gonna need some of

660
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Speaker 3: these billionaire billionaires to drop some of those funds to

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Speaker 3: reserve their spot, to have the capital to even go

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Speaker 3: through with the project. It seems very you know, over promising,

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Speaker 3: under delivery.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's something that I'm my spidery sense is tingling.

665
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Speaker 4: This feels like a very carefully packaged call for investment.

666
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Speaker 4: More than anything is correct.

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Speaker 2: Fire Festival on the Moon.

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Speaker 4: Finally, Firefest time Putin has spy nuns. We've got Firefest

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Speaker 4: on the moon. See, it's not all bad, folks.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of the future. Finally, guys, we just need

671
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Speaker 3: our little flying cars.

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Speaker 4: The Jetson's lied to us, but we.

673
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Speaker 3: Were promised flying cars. Instead we got cyber trucks.

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Speaker 4: I kind of want to see and this is pitch

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Speaker 4: for the anybody who's resurrecting Hanna Barbara. I kind of

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Speaker 4: want to see a gritty reboot of the Jetsons, but

677
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Speaker 4: I want to see the underclass, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I want to see like the two Dark side of

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Speaker 4: the Jetsons.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, they portray it as something of an idyllic, you know, utopia.

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Speaker 3: Even though George hates his job, but the whole idea

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Speaker 3: of like his job, this future job is just to

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Speaker 3: push a button, yeah, to make widgets or no sprockets,

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Speaker 3: and the future futuristic product is sprockets and cogs, which

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Speaker 3: I love. And we did recently talk about The Flintstones,

686
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Speaker 3: a really gritty reboot of The Flintstones with the brutal

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Speaker 3: reality of caveman society and like just turf wars and things,

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Speaker 3: and you know, the dinosaurs that actually don't just serve

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Speaker 3: as your garbage disposal but actually devour your family. That's

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Speaker 3: what I want to see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the dinosas and controlled dinosaurs is weapons

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Speaker 4: of weapons of mass instruction.

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Speaker 3: I know because even in the Flintstones live action movie,

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Speaker 3: the dinahs were all very docile and seemed to be

695
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Speaker 3: super into being harnessed and bent to the will of man.

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Speaker 3: I think that's how it would go down.

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Speaker 4: I'm going through a dinosaur phase again. To guys, I

698
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Speaker 4: am so dinosaurs. Whatever.

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Speaker 2: Can you, guys imagine going to the moon and getting

700
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Speaker 2: like being able to see a live performance of Halahalla

701
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Speaker 2: from jaw Rule.

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine that, but I think it's because we

703
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 4: all have extremely beautiful, vivid imaginations. Can you imagine getting

704
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Speaker 4: stranded there? I mean that's why I almost I almost

705
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 4: didn't say invite us to your bunker on air, and

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Speaker 4: I hope I don't regret it, because I don't know

707
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Speaker 4: you guys opinions on group trips in general, but they

708
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 4: can be daunting. I'm more of a ghost, you know

709
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 4: what I mean. You've seen me I blow in, through

710
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 4: and out of a situation.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's nice to defer to everybody else's schedules and wishes.

712
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Speaker 3: It's not to do a little solo trip. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: sometimes group trips can be a lot of pressure, no

714
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Speaker 3: question about on the Moon. I think People's company could

715
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Speaker 3: wear a thin on you real quick. If you're where

716
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: are you going to go? Best of friends? It would

717
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 3: also truly put your friendship to the test. Yeah, where

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Speaker 3: are you going to go?

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Speaker 4: I mean, at least in Antarctica you can get mad

720
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 4: and put on several layers of protection and say I'm

721
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: going to go stand outside for four minutes. Four minutes outside,

722
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: it's a lot of oxygen.

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Speaker 2: Are you sure right? It feels like the set up

724
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: to some Guermo del Toro project in twenty twenty seven

725
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: or something. You know, it's just going to make a

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Speaker 2: movie about the hotel on the Moon.

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Speaker 4: I want to go to the Moon so bad, you know.

728
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Speaker 4: I think it's a smart thing for science. Maybe hopefully

729
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 4: this company is I don't want to run us along

730
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Speaker 4: on this, but maybe hopefully this company is again carefully

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Speaker 4: packaging a dream to get investors such that they can

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Speaker 4: send actual scientists to the Moon to uh.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to think.

734
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Speaker 4: I'd like to true that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sort of doubt it though, unfortunately. I just I

736
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Speaker 3: just feel like, you know, with all of the funding

737
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Speaker 3: RUG pulls into NASA and things like that and the

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Speaker 3: privatization of space travel, it just seems like it's being

739
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Speaker 3: sold is more of like a billionaire lark kind of

740
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 3: gimmick as opposed to like what it actually could mean

741
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Speaker 3: for humanity, or at the very least the billionaires are

742
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 3: just figuring out how they can get there and leave

743
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Speaker 3: everybody else behind.

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Speaker 4: And well, that that is, that is not just a

745
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 4: valid point, it's pretty much an objective fact. I would

746
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Speaker 4: add historical precedent shows us that private industry is great

747
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 4: for expansion into new territories like Dutch East India. The

748
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 4: East Indies companies were you know, like the first corporations

749
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Speaker 4: of their kind, and they absolutely propelled European expansion. So

750
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 4: maybe space travel does need privatization. I've had some really

751
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 4: interesting talks with aerospace engineers about this, but I think

752
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 4: we should keep NASA. I think it's cool to have

753
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 4: the greater good of the government when it works driving

754
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 4: space space expansion. Now I'm derailing us. That's a different episode,

755
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Speaker 4: not at all.

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Speaker 3: No, it's a valid point, and I think a perfect

757
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: way to wrap this one up. So let's take a

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Speaker 3: quick break here aware from our sponsor, and then we'll

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: Hope you like us mentioning it, by the way, because

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Speaker 4: we are going to.

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Speaker 3: Be doing that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and too bad if you don't. Ah, sorry, Okay, So,

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Speaker 2: as we said, for you, it's the twenty six. For us,

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Speaker 2: it's Wednesday, January twenty first, twenty twenty six. We mentioned

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Speaker 2: the Swiss Alps. We mentioned elaborate parties thrown by the

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Speaker 2: obscenely wealthy. I feel like, guys, we should at least

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Speaker 2: mention this year's wackado version of the emergency World Economic

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Speaker 2: Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

802
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, they're getting into comedy pretty hard.

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Speaker 2: They're getting into and literally an emergency situation where all

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Speaker 2: of Europe, all of the members of the North American

805
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Speaker 2: Treaty Organization came together to hopefully have some kind of

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Speaker 2: dialogue and diplomacy with the current bad guys of the world,

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Speaker 2: the United States of America. A very strange situation to

808
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Speaker 2: have the United States of America threatening to invade another

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Speaker 2: NATO country with force, especially following a very recent abduction

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Speaker 2: and hot action in Venezuela, which don't forget about that.

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Speaker 2: But we do have good news.

812
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Speaker 3: Saying some of this stuff might not be above board.

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying this is weird. It should be happening.

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Speaker 4: I think the board applies to the game anymore. I

816
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Speaker 4: think we've all been watching some of the live updates.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, but we do we have good news from

818
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Speaker 2: the live updates, guys. As of this moment, the standing

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Speaker 2: President of the United States of America has announced that

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Speaker 2: he quote won't use force unquote to take control of Greenland,

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Speaker 2: you know, setting off a global conflict between the US

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Speaker 2: and NATO.

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Speaker 3: Handshakes and how Yeah.

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Speaker 4: This comes on the heels of his of his letter

825
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Speaker 4: to Norway about the Peace Prize text.

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Speaker 2: I believe the mock.

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Speaker 4: Rolling text that he publicized and.

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Speaker 3: In this posting screenshots of texts is like something an

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Speaker 3: angry X would do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's weird. I think we all saw another another

831
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Speaker 4: signal that the current potus sent was stepping back a

832
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Speaker 4: little and say, hey, I'd be open to a ninety

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Speaker 4: nine year lease of greenland.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. We're just hoping somehow that by some miracle, diplomacy

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Speaker 2: wins out and there's some kind of version of all

836
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Speaker 2: of this that calms down and reduces the chaos levels

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Speaker 2: from ninety nine point nine percent where we currently are,

838
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Speaker 2: to at least eighty. Let's get down to eighty percent chaos. Guys,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like Katie all day. We'll

840
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 2: all feel a lot better at that point. But with

841
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Speaker 2: all this nuts stuff happening in the world right now,

842
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: one of the great things we can do is reflect

843
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Speaker 2: a little bit, and let's say, have a meal with

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Speaker 2: our loved ones. That's what I did yesterday, got on

845
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Speaker 2: the grill, cooked some steak, and then woke up this

846
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Speaker 2: morning and read a headline that made me regret my

847
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Speaker 2: decision to eat some steaks.

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Speaker 3: Is smelling your own farts?

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Speaker 2: No, this is coming to us from science dot org.

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Speaker 2: It's all over the place. Many of the places you'll

851
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Speaker 2: find this are paywalld. So I head on over to

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Speaker 2: science dot org. Although it was my only free article

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Speaker 2: I guess for the day, so hopefully you can get

854
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Speaker 2: that one too. It's titled no bull, This Austrian cow

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Speaker 2: has learned to use tools. Hear that a cow has

856
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Speaker 2: learned to use tools?

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Speaker 3: This holds it in its hooves.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's using its mouth much in the

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Speaker 2: same way you've probably seen a pet, a cat, a dog,

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Speaker 2: a similar animal use their mouth to pick something up

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Speaker 2: right and manipulate it a little bit. In this case,

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Speaker 2: the cow is picking up things specifically to scratch itself

863
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Speaker 2: in places that it cannot reach, like the utter. Oh yes, utters,

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Speaker 2: it's back up near the hind quarters, it's tummy. It

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Speaker 2: is very very cool. And the astonishing thing that has

866
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Speaker 2: been found that we're going to talk about right here

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Speaker 2: is that the cow is using different parts of the

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Speaker 2: same tool for different purposes, all for scratching, but for

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Speaker 2: scratching either sensitive areas or parts of its body that

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Speaker 2: require a bit more roughness. Let's get into this because

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Speaker 2: it is freaking fascinating. This is happening in Austria. There's

872
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: a baker out there who has a cow named Veronica,

873
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: and the baker noticed that when Veronica had an itch,

874
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: it would grab a stick from the ground, pick up

875
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: the stick and scratch itself. And you know, at first

876
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 2: he's just like, oh, look at that. Isn't that amusing

877
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: and interesting that the cows doing that? But then some

878
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 2: scientists got wind of this and they realized, oh, this

879
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 2: is actual. Could it be actual tool use by a bovine,

880
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: which would be unprecedented in the history of mankind. It

881
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: is not known that cows have used tools.

882
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 3: I guess I'd be on the same page if I

883
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 3: were to observe this. It just seems like not that

884
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: big a deal. But this is huge, that's insane, it

885
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 3: would be huge.

886
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: The thing is it could be perhaps not tool use,

887
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: just some cow picking up a stick, right, and that's

888
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: not crazy an animal picking something up with his mouth,

889
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 2: as we're saying, with cats and dogs, we observe it

890
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 2: all the time, many different animals.

891
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 4: Question is whether it's intentional, right, the intent and I

892
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 4: love to point out the multi use.

893
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, So they are to qualify as tool use.

894
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: There are a couple of things you got to have.

895
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 2: The tool must become an extension of an animal's body.

896
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 2: The tool must allow the animals to do something it

897
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 2: wouldn't otherwise be able to do or would have great

898
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 2: difficulty doing. And the animal must change the orientation of

899
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: the tool to make it do its job right. So

900
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: these are some pretty big qualifications things that you have

901
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: to meet. And it turns out after seventy trials that

902
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: were conducted out there by a team of folks and

903
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: a postgraduate student, they realized that yes, this cow is

904
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: in fact using this tool in two different ways, for

905
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: two different reasons, or for the same reason, but in

906
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: two different applications, I suppose. And it's just astonishing, and

907
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: it makes you think about cows, and it made me

908
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: specific think about the steak I ate last night. Don't know,

909
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: what do you guys think?

910
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 4: I got it? You know, this has long been a

911
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 4: fascination of mine, non human intelligence. It's what fascination I

912
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 4: think a lot of us in the audience Tonight's share

913
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 4: shout out to sci fi writer Adrian Tchaikovsky. He's got

914
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 4: another book coming out in his series, The Man's a Machine.

915
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 4: But look, we know that the more we observe animals,

916
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 4: species or genres of animals as they like to call them,

917
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 4: more individual animals, the more intelligent they appear to be right.

918
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 4: It's just the human still hasn't really defined intelligence all

919
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 4: the way. So for a long time scientific research was

920
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 4: stymied by this anthrocentric perspective. You know what you know,

921
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 4: and you don't know what you don't know, especially if

922
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 4: it's too different from you. We know that the octopus

923
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 4: is capable of tool use the COVID of course, shout

924
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 4: out to those guys. And we also know that there

925
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 4: is a stark difference between observed behavior and suspected behavior

926
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 4: because I believe Matt in articles quoting some of the

927
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 4: studies like the debrief, for example, they talk about the

928
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 4: cow's pharm or their human body, who had been noticing

929
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 4: this over time, right, like over a long period of time.

930
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a statement from the postdoctorate postdoctoral student who

931
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: was performing those trials saying that he believes, at least

932
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: according to what he's been told by the baker, the

933
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: cow's caretaker, I suppose that after the mother, this cow's

934
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: mother passed away, it was believed that this was a

935
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: way to kind of self comfort, right to use the

936
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: scratching of a tool like this. However, there's another really

937
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 2: interesting possibility coming from I think it's I don't know

938
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Speaker 2: if it's Yon or Jan Langolin and applied ethologists at

939
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 2: the Research Institute for Farm Animal Biology. It was really

940
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 2: thought provoking to me, and I feel like it's very interesting,

941
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: So we'll just put it out there like this. Here's's

942
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: quoting from the article. Perhaps Veronica learned to use tools

943
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 2: because she was allowed to. Most farm animals live in

944
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 2: a relatively barren environment with no access to objects they

945
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 2: can manipulate. And the full quote is you can't become

946
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 2: a tool user if there are no tools available. That

947
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense, right, Yeah, don't.

948
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 4: You don't have the opportunity to exercise intellect in that way.

949
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 4: Because this is a companion animal, not being used as

950
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 4: livestock or for dairy farming. This is kind of a

951
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 4: pet and that's a huge distinction.

952
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a cow that doesn't get milked, it's not

953
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 2: used for anything. It sleeps in quarters near where the

954
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: baker and you know where he lives and everything.

955
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 4: Vizgar weigels, Yes, that's him.

956
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: And again it's just just an animal allowed to roam

957
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 2: free and to see something on the ground and pick

958
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: it up, right, And then you imagine, especially how most

959
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 2: dairy cattle and cattle that are used for meat harvesting

960
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 2: here in the US are treated where they live, what

961
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: they get to experience on a daily basis, it's not

962
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 2: what Veronica gets to see into. So maybe there's just

963
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: a lot more observation and different living conditions for animals

964
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: to be studied in this way and see what happens,

965
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: see if they do the things the corvids do.

966
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 3: I guess I keep harping on this, but I just

967
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 3: would not have clocked what a big deal and what

968
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 3: like a rare occurrence this is and what it represents

969
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 3: like evolutionarily. Is that what we're talking about or.

970
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 4: What we don't takeaway. Yeah, we don't know how many

971
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 4: times something like this has happened and has not been observed, right,

972
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 4: So it's logically possible this has been happening, but cattle,

973
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 4: due to the nature of farming and domestication, haven't been

974
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 4: given the opportunity to exercise intellect in that way. Or

975
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 4: it's completely possible cattle who were existing in the past

976
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 4: right before we could film footage of them, we're doing

977
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 4: things like this and humans were just to into thinking

978
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 4: of human stuff to notice it or notice how important

979
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 4: it is. But to your point, no, I would argue

980
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 4: this is this is great scientific progress. I am prochool

981
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 4: used from animals. I can't wait to see, Like, what's

982
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 4: the huh, what would be the funniest or most interesting

983
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 4: animal to be proven to have fool use?

984
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's a question for our listeners. Yeah.

985
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 2: Well, as of right now, it's humans, chimpanzees, and Veronica.

986
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: Those are literally the only examples of multi uses for

987
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 2: the single tool that exists out there.

988
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 4: Really, Corvids, from what I understood, can modify tools for

989
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 4: different purposes, and they'll take the same artifact and change

990
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 4: it as needed.

991
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 2: I'm not aware of that, at least that's not what

992
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 2: science dot org is saying in a bunch of these

993
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: other places they're saying chimpanzees are the only ones who

994
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 2: will use a stick that has a smaller end and

995
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 2: a larger end and they'll poke a hole through where

996
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: let's say a nest for where ants are or something

997
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: like that, and then flip it around and use the

998
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: small end to fish out the ants. That's again using

999
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: the same tool for two different purposes. And then Veronica

1000
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: is using the bristles part and then the handle part

1001
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 2: of a broom. And then humans. Obviously we we love

1002
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: a multi use, right.

1003
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 3: We do.

1004
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 2: Those are the only examples I've seen, and that's how

1005
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: they're speaking about it, at least in Inside Out Org.

1006
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: Just don't give a raccoon a Swiss army knife, good

1007
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: Lord at please God, No.

1008
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 4: No, they're leatherman guys.

1009
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 3: Hold on, they will they will mug you in an

1010
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 3: alley if they were given such.

1011
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, New Caldoni a switchblade. New Caledonian crows are famous

1012
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 4: for using and making tools, combining multiple items for complex task. Okay, well,

1013
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 4: let me let me have always the studies always read

1014
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 4: you Aly said that was true, So I mean I'm

1015
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,959
Speaker 4: going to have to dive into this compound tool.

1016
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 3: Heck yeah. And also, just the last thing we're talking about, covids.

1017
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 3: I'd tend this to Ben on Instagram. Apparently there's some

1018
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 3: people that are training corvids to attack ICE agents. Just

1019
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 3: putting that out there home.

1020
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 4: We're talking about a weaponization of the mask and hat experiment.

1021
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice sense.

1022
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 2: Last thing, guys, before we get out of here. From

1023
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 2: The Guardian, Nearly all Epstein files still unreleased a month

1024
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: after Congress deadline. That is one month after December nineteenth,

1025
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. That was the deadline mandated by the

1026
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 2: Epstein Files Transparency Act that the US Congress passed. The

1027
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: Justice Department has still not complied with the law. At

1028
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: last count, the DOJ website posted approximately twelve two hundred

1029
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,479
Speaker 2: and eighty five documents. That's around one hundred and twenty

1030
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 2: five five hundred and seventy five pages, and they say

1031
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 2: there's still around two million or more documents potentially responsive

1032
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: to the Act in various phases of review. So again,

1033
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: just a reminder today on Wednesday, January twenty first, as

1034
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: we record this, the Epstein files are still locked away

1035
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: and the ones that did come out have been heavily

1036
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 2: redacted against the rules of that act, the.

1037
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 3: Rules saying that you can't redact names exclusively to prevent embarrassment. Yes,

1038
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 3: and it does appear that only victims' names were meant

1039
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 3: to be redacted. But I believe there's some eagle eye,

1040
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 3: like coffee Zilla, for example, the great investigative YouTuber, was

1041
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 3: able to take some of these last batch and apply

1042
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 3: some you know, like PDF filters to it or loaded

1043
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 3: up in Acrobat Reader, and realizing that these things are

1044
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 3: actually removable, but also realizing and going through these that

1045
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 3: there are clearly names of co conspirators that were redacted,

1046
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 3: and there's much that's not according to the spirit of

1047
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 3: the law.

1048
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 4: Right right, nor the letter of the law. Actually, if

1049
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 4: we want to be a little bit pedantic about the

1050
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 4: you know, the rule of law, which is that they

1051
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 4: that is supposed to be happening. So my awkward English aside,

1052
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 4: forgive me, folks still learning this tongue. We don't want

1053
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 4: to forget about the Epstein files, and don't you forget

1054
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,640
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