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Speaker 5: Good Wednesday morning. Nice to have you with us on

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Speaker 5: the forty seven Morning I've been and we've got two

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Speaker 5: Ice agents. Well, we have a lot more information now

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Speaker 5: about his background, including a recent altercation with Ice that

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Speaker 5: broke his rib allegedly. Also, Tom Holman, he's in the

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Speaker 5: fight now in Minneapolis, and he's also taking on the media,

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Speaker 5: and it starts right now.

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Speaker 4: Story number one.

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Speaker 5: Alex Freddy. You may remember him as the guy that

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Speaker 5: was shot by Ice after there was a physical encounter.

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Speaker 5: We're now learning a lot more about the individual, including

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Speaker 5: the fact that he had a broken rib wine in

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Speaker 5: another physical encounter during anti ICE protests just a week

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Speaker 5: federal law enforcement before he was fatally shot. And not

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Speaker 5: only did he have a broken rib during that physical

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Speaker 5: had a quote physical encounter with federal agents about a

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Speaker 5: his house. CNN is now reporting it as well. Here's

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Speaker 6: And it is learning that Alex Pretty had a physical

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Speaker 6: Pretty broke a rib when a group of federal officers

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Speaker 6: tackled him while he was protesting. Priscilla Alvarez is breaking

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Speaker 6: that story for us. What else are you hearing, Priscilla.

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Speaker 1: Dan, I we're learning more details along with my colleague

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Speaker 1: Pretty was shot in Minneapolis and died this past weekend. Now,

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Speaker 1: in this earlier incident, he stopped his car after observing

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Speaker 1: one of these sources that five agents tackled him and

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Speaker 1: also unclear whether the officers who tackled him on Saturday

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Speaker 5: Now here's the question whose side is seeing it on?

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Speaker 5: He was again tackled by US immigration and Constant Enforcement

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Speaker 5: You heard in that interview there. Well, did he really

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Speaker 5: So another example of you know, the media just not

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Speaker 5: the CBP use of force policy is grounded in constitutional

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Speaker 5: That coming from the DHS Assistant Secretary of Tristia McLaughlin.

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Speaker 5: This is not groundbreaking, it is standard protocol. So when

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Speaker 4: Now story number two.

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Speaker 5: The mainstream media stunned into silence as the White House

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Speaker 5: right now that's just been deployed to Minnesota, Tom Holman.

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Speaker 5: Here is what she had to say from the White

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Speaker 7: This is a Washington Post headline from nine years ago,

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Speaker 7: twenty sixteen. Meet the man the White House is honored

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Speaker 7: for deporting illegal immigrants. And I would remind everyone in

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Speaker 7: who awarded a medal to mister Homan, so he's obviously

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Speaker 7: very qualified. He has the full trust and faith of

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Speaker 7: the President. Will continue to have these meetings in.

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Speaker 8: The hopes that weak ice and local law enforcement can

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Speaker 5: Now you listen to the White House press Hereteria there

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Speaker 5: it's not just that. Let me also remind you of

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Speaker 2: There are those in the immigrants rights community who have

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Speaker 2: such an indiscriminate approach would be both unwise and unfair.

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Speaker 2: It would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally

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Speaker 2: and this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration.

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Speaker 2: And it would also ignore the millions of people around

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Speaker 2: And no matter how decent they are, no matter their reasons,

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Speaker 2: the eleven million who broke these laws should be held accountable.

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Speaker 5: The eleven million. He used that number back in twenty ten,

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