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Speaker 1: Cowboys. This he's Talking Cowboys, screening live from the Dallas

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Speaker 2: Tscot Ti TI, touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback,

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Speaker 2: Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 4: It's a one month out from the NFL Draft edition

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Speaker 4: of Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, live

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Speaker 4: from the Star in Frisco, Texas, in.

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Speaker 1: The BC Studios. Welcome in everybody.

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Speaker 4: We've got Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah Standback, Chris Beam in the back.

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Speaker 4: I'm Kyle Yeoman so glad you're with us. What is that, Josh?

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Speaker 3: I think it's the Star magazine draft guy.

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Speaker 5: I think this might be like the debut of it.

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Speaker 3: It's the debut.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's even been released. This is definitely

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Speaker 4: a sneak peek. This is what you get on Talking

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Speaker 4: Cowboys is a nice.

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Speaker 3: Little breaking news.

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Speaker 4: That is the cover on there of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: six NFL Draft Guide by the Cowboys Star Magazine personnel.

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Speaker 3: Who contributed to that magazine.

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Speaker 4: Call, I did, really, you know who take this up with?

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Speaker 5: You want to know who wanted to put the organ

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Speaker 5: duck on.

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Speaker 1: The front Me. It was and it was only for you.

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Speaker 5: I did it for you.

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Speaker 4: No, I did it because Dylan Thieneman has a chance

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Speaker 4: to be a Cowboy at least when we decided this magazine,

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Speaker 4: he had a bigger chance probably, But I still don't

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Speaker 4: necessarily think it's out of the conversation.

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Speaker 3: Well is on the cover.

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Speaker 1: Call.

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Speaker 4: So you got Ruben bain Down on the bottom left

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Speaker 4: hand corner, the edge rusher out of Miami. To us right,

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Speaker 4: You've got David Bailey, the edge rusher out of Texas Tech.

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Speaker 4: Then you've got Caleb Downs, Ohio State Safety. He's on

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Speaker 4: the far left hand side. Then you got Monsieur Delaine

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Speaker 4: over the top in the LSU gear. You got Sunny

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Speaker 4: Styles in the gray Ohio State uniform, and then Dylan

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Speaker 4: Theenum in there in the middle. Those are the cover

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Speaker 4: athletes for this year's Cowboys Star magazine. Draft Guy available

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Speaker 4: online shortly, I maybe within the next week, but it's

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Speaker 4: in pro shops starting today. Oh if you come in

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Speaker 4: person to any of the Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: Pro shop locations. I believe in the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex.

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Speaker 1: Leave with one. You can leave with one of these

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Speaker 1: dress magazine. Do any of those guys make it out

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Speaker 1: the top twelve?

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Speaker 5: Any of them make it out of the top twelve,

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Speaker 5: like beyond?

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Speaker 1: Do the theenemon does? Probably? Yeah? Yeah, theenem In probably is. Uh.

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Speaker 4: The other guys probably not. Bain Maybe because of the

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Speaker 4: short arm, somebody might get a little worried.

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Speaker 5: But that's my thing is if he ends up going

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Speaker 5: to twelve, his.

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Speaker 1: Arms are really short, Kyle, they are very almost too short,

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Speaker 1: too short to play.

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Speaker 3: The team shouldn't even look at it, idn't even touch.

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Speaker 5: Them because you want them to end up here.

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Speaker 1: Shut up.

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Speaker 6: Shit.

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Speaker 4: It is thirty days out from the NFL Draft, which

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Speaker 4: means this is right around the time we're on Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: we start talking draft stuff and you know whatever started

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Speaker 4: just better or start getting your film in with draft experts, and.

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Speaker 1: We just started talking about it over there in the

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Speaker 1: in the breakfast hall. That means it's almost time for practice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we're what two weeks away practice from

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Speaker 4: from actually hitting the field, five weeks away now from

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Speaker 4: hitting the field with rookie mining camp and then OTAs

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Speaker 4: and then we're right back into practice time.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of March madness, it's gonna be madness by the

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Speaker 4: time we get around to May, and I'm not ready

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Speaker 4: get the draft stuff right.

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Speaker 7: But I know, and you got two draft experts here

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Speaker 7: in Isaiah stand back and drafting Kyle not as much,

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Speaker 7: not as much. But if those wondering why we're missing

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Speaker 7: Patrick no Cy Walker, he's having surgery today. If you

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Speaker 7: didn't last week, he had an injury, a baseball injury.

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Speaker 7: But he is getting surgery today. He will be back,

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Speaker 7: no doubt about it. Patrick knowsy Walker will return.

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Speaker 1: Show some love to no Sea in a chat. He

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Speaker 1: It's not a for sure thing. You know. People go

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Speaker 1: We are praying that everything's gonna be okay. But y'all

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Speaker 1: send him some love because he definitely needs to feel

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we got to talk to him a little bit yesterday.

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Speaker 4: He was in good, good Spirits was confident of course

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Speaker 4: in the process, but man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always tough. No sea confident always, that's what

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Speaker 1: the C stands for. Confident. But he is confident, yes.

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Speaker 5: Patrick, Yes, confident Walker.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: That's it right off the tongue.

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Speaker 5: It rolls. This one rolls, baby.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's get into some news and notes, a

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Speaker 4: couple of different things to keep in tabs with UH

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Speaker 4: in terms of the Cowboys and what they did this

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Speaker 4: past week, start with some of the guys that left Dallas.

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Speaker 7: A notable name missing from that list, Kyle, I don't

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Speaker 7: think we got to talk about him last week, Okay,

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Speaker 7: Jalen Tolbert goes to the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think it happened before I show last week,

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Speaker 1: but we didn't talk about it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we talked about it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, not a big topic of conversation last week.

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Speaker 1: I mean you talked about some over two years ago.

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Speaker 1: he did two seasons ago. He led your team in touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: That was huge for him. Obviously last year somebody came

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Speaker 1: It is about competition. And now he finds himself not

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Speaker 1: opportunity with another team, right, And that's the thing you

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Speaker 7: I thought it's interesting that he's probably one of your

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Speaker 7: contributed in touchdowns the year prior last year and a

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Speaker 7: that more show more so says what Flinoy was able

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Speaker 7: I just mean like he was obviously overtaken by Illinoy

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let me start by saying, I enjoyed covering Jalen Tolbert,

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Speaker 4: very insightful when we had those conversations, and he was

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Speaker 1: But the consistency was a problem. I mean, he had flashes.

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Speaker 4: He had one of the best catches of the twenty

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Speaker 1: Late in that game.

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Speaker 4: He made plays and he's capable of doing so. But

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Speaker 4: the consistency was where it fell short, and it was

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Speaker 1: One hundred pick.

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Speaker 4: He was picked eighty eighth overall in a time where

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Speaker 4: Dallas really needed another wide receiver to step up, and

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Speaker 4: drafting Jaylen Tolbert in the third round there, so at

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Speaker 4: that point I thought he would come in and contribute,

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Speaker 4: and he did, but not to the level that you

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Speaker 4: needed Jayaln Tolbert to do. And now he's kind of

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I didn't mean to turn this into talking Tolbert,

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Speaker 7: but I think it was worth mentioning because of the

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Speaker 7: contributions that he's made as a Dallas Cowboy. You've won

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Speaker 7: games because of James Colbert, Like there's no out about that,

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Speaker 7: that game winning uh touchdown in Pittsburgh, Like, I will

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Speaker 7: big one to you for a long time. It was

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Speaker 1: Is that is that a fisial the table? I like Hoffman.

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Speaker 1: it's not just one person making this decision. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: this particular shortcoming or this lack of development in this

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Speaker 1: from him. Losing him and Rob Jones doesn't necessarily make

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Speaker 1: me feel awesome in terms of depth. Those are those

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Speaker 1: Jones and be like, well, he never even had a

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Speaker 1: chance to play here. Yeah, he got hurt early in camp, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: How much would you equate it to what would you

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Speaker 7: You know that meme where it's like the guy that's

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Speaker 3: I feel like that.

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Speaker 7: I'm very frustrated with that. Obviously, they have a plan

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Speaker 3: So I'm just very.

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Speaker 7: Confused at the approach there. But you know the Christian

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very difficult for me to foresee Dallas moving

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Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying, Like I was hopeful

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Speaker 1: And I feel like they started doing that right. You

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Speaker 4: You're saying you would use it to go get you

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Speaker 1: I think that you have to trade one of the

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Speaker 1: I feel like, there's this I want to do this.

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Speaker 1: let's stay true to who we are, but we and

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Speaker 1: now you find yourself in a position where it's like, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: saying we still don't have enough guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the plan was there.

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Speaker 7: I think the plan was there to go get the

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Speaker 7: I mean, obviously the interest was there for several guys,

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Speaker 7: To me, I would have used free agency to kind

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Speaker 3: We're not playing a game today.

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Speaker 7: Obviously, but it's like we have a roster we feel

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think you bring up a good point

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Speaker 4: was it the crazy moves that they wanted to make, No,

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Speaker 1: And I forgot who said it.

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Speaker 4: Somebody said it the other day, and I agreed with

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Speaker 1: Part of it I didn't agree with.

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Speaker 4: But what I did agree with was when you haven't

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Speaker 4: you all of a sudden decide to go play in

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Speaker 5: And that's what ultimately happened.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion.

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Speaker 4: I think they did want to get involved. I think

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Speaker 4: some point in time where they decided to make a move,

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Speaker 1: To make a move, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's where I think there was a falling

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Speaker 1: I like what they did with Kobe Durant and with

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Speaker 4: Are they as good as going and getting a blue

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Speaker 1: No, it's not.

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Speaker 4: Those are good moves that are going to make your

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Speaker 1: I look at it is a math equation to me. Right,

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Speaker 1: you lost a number of starters or you know you

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Speaker 1: Who else did we lose?

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Speaker 1: Right? No? I mean he probably has he would have

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Speaker 1: all good stuff. Okay, So now as well, you know

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Speaker 1: how many five starters? That'd be five starters that you

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Speaker 4: And that's that's where I have the same agreement with

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Speaker 1: But are they blue chip starters. No they're not. They're good,

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Speaker 4: You end up getting those blue chip guys. You end

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Speaker 1: Things of the sort.

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Speaker 4: There are no more linebackers on the the NFL dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Top one hundred and one free agency.

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Speaker 5: Which that mays so sick, there's nothing there.

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Speaker 3: It's just, yeah, that hurts me.

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Speaker 1: You're in a bad spot at linebacker unless you I mean, yes,

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Speaker 1: please just go get Bobby serious at this point, like

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Speaker 1: just go go get them cite somewhere.

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Speaker 7: No, No, maybe it's a situation where he's waiting till

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Speaker 1: Don't let him have the pick of the litterate. Don't

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Speaker 1: You should have had them three years ago. You chose

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Speaker 1: Bobby's still going when you're thirty seven, it's still falling.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: I think the league is waiting to see what Bobby

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Speaker 4: wants to do.

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Speaker 1: No, I understand, and he deserves that right. And he's

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Speaker 1: going to be playing somewhere. He's gonna be starting somewhere

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Speaker 1: because he's just he's still playing at that level. Like,

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Speaker 1: just don't wait. Like you missed on the Lloyd, You

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Speaker 1: missed on all you know, Nikobe Dean, you missed on

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Speaker 1: all these other bona fide contributors and big time players.

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Speaker 1: Go get a guy that's still doing it. Like, is

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Speaker 1: he as young as you want?

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Speaker 6: Heck?

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Speaker 1: No, can he still play? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Either you know what I'm saying, Like, and even if

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Speaker 4: he doesn't play as much as he has in the past,

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Speaker 4: what he's going to give you is significant in its

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Speaker 4: own right. With the bang for the buck, right, he's

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Speaker 4: going to give you some quality snaps might I mean

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Speaker 4: as many snaps as they've had in the past.

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Speaker 5: He's going to give him quality. And when he's not playing, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what, he is going to give you wisdom.

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Speaker 4: Knowledge and wisdom and all the the IQ that you

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Speaker 4: cannot teach from playing thirty seven years in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: like Bobby Wager has.

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Speaker 1: I've got to have that level. I just don't want

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Speaker 1: it to get to after the draft and everybody's trying

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Speaker 1: to make the same phone call, like I would much

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Speaker 1: rather get him, right, have him, and then go get

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Speaker 1: a linebacker in a draft, and now you feel good

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Speaker 1: about your front seven, right, and it's like, okay, now

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Speaker 1: we still need we still want to get one more

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Speaker 1: or two more pass rushers. Right, they can get out

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Speaker 1: of the quarterback, but at least you're not forcing things

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Speaker 1: into a position, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 7: And I feel like like you're saying, he has the

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Speaker 7: knowledge that will bring added value to the linebacker room,

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Speaker 7: especially when you're going there's no doubt you're going to

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Speaker 7: draft linebackers one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: You're going to do that.

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Speaker 7: Why not have a guy that can teach him how

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Speaker 7: to do? Like who better to learn from than a

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Speaker 7: Bobby Wager?

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Speaker 4: Come on, I mean, we can stand on the table

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Speaker 4: as much as we want inside the podcast studio, but

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Speaker 4: they al only are gonna have to want to do that.

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Speaker 4: And there have been so many opportunities in the past

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Speaker 4: where they could have added Bobby Waxes and they have

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Speaker 4: not done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I come across your table. It's like dog

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Speaker 1: gonna being at the dog on a sushi restaurant. It's like,

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Speaker 1: should I get that thing on a little what do

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Speaker 1: you call it? The conveyor? Bet It's not a conveyor,

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Speaker 1: Betty goes by, But you had the second time sushi restaurants?

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Speaker 1: Is isay?

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Speaker 3: Are you going to get it wrong?

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Speaker 7: How many times are you going to see him go

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Speaker 7: to another team and still contribute more so than any

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Speaker 7: of the linebackers you currently have in your team.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I agree with you, but now I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that I don't know if they do.

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Speaker 7: There's a big reason why the Commanders don't have him

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Speaker 7: on their roster anymore. Sure, I mean he's he's he's

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Speaker 7: unreliable in coverage right now. Yeah, today's Bobby Wagner doesn't

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Speaker 7: do that very well.

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Speaker 3: But you know what he does. He tackles and a

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Speaker 3: surefire tackle.

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Speaker 1: We've we've talked about this before on the show too.

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Speaker 3: A need into three four kind of maybe a little bit,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: But Christian Parker has been very It's been noted by

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Speaker 4: multiple people within the organization that he has a very

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Speaker 4: specific idea of what he wants. He's not going to

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Speaker 4: to to waiver on anything that he's doing building a roster.

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Speaker 4: He is going to get what he wants. And if

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Speaker 4: he doesn't want a Christian Parker made a Bobby Wagner type,

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Speaker 4: then he's probably how.

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Speaker 1: Many draft picks this year? This year? Yes? Eight? Seven?

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Speaker 1: Seven or eight? And how many are eight now with

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Speaker 1: the trade? Okay, so eight draft picks? And how many

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Speaker 1: are below fourth or below fifth round? They've got four?

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Speaker 1: So you got four top fours or top four yea

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Speaker 1: in the top for five rounds something like that, right,

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Speaker 1: four picks in the top five rounds? Yeah, yeah, well

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Speaker 1: to one in the top five rounds two, one, three, four, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then you've got three fives. Okay, so Christian Parker,

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Speaker 1: you need to go get some more guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And of course it's like.

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Speaker 1: That's not to say the guys in the draft are

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Speaker 1: going to come in and play right now, but the

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Speaker 1: probability is low. Like there's there's there's some teams put

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Speaker 1: more emphasis on rolling the dice on draft picks than others, right,

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Speaker 1: And I think what you're seeing right now is the

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Speaker 1: league is really starting to change and we're seeing this

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Speaker 1: within trades. There's been more trades than has ever been.

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Speaker 1: Teams are starting to rest their their their they're wallets

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Speaker 1: on proven players, right. It's not the discredit guys that

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Speaker 1: are coming through the draft that have to prove themselves.

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Speaker 1: And some guys may hit right now. Some guys may

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Speaker 1: hit on their second or third team.

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Speaker 3: You don't you're.

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Speaker 1: Seeing you know, teams are tired of waiting, right, and

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Speaker 1: some teams are more tired than others. Go get you

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Speaker 1: a guy that you know, I know what he's going

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Speaker 1: to do. Right. It may not be everything I want,

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Speaker 1: but I know what the productive productivity I'm going to

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Speaker 1: get out of him. And then I go get the

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Speaker 1: guy that I hope turns into, you know, whatever it

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Speaker 1: is that we project them to be. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to go hope, I really go no hope and too fair.

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Speaker 7: I know we're talking a lot about Wagner, but there

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Speaker 7: are other guys that have been reported that the Cowboys

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Speaker 7: are interested in trading for. We can't necessarily name those

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Speaker 7: names right now, we can't talk about them, but I

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Speaker 7: underst standing there is a plan there. They're not saying

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Speaker 7: like we're not going to address itself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think there was a plan agency too that was

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Speaker 4: Plan A, this Plan B, and this is kind of

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Speaker 4: what they're happening, or it might even be C or

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Speaker 4: do you who knows?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 4: They have a plan moving forward, but we just got

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Speaker 4: to find a way to make that happen, and whether

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Speaker 4: or not they're willing to part with some of these

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Speaker 4: draft picks to do so. I do want to talk

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Speaker 4: about the NFL Draft, and when we come back, I've

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Speaker 1: Now you know I have a beef, Kyle. I know

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Speaker 1: don't partake in the chat during the show. But these guys,

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Speaker 1: they they kind of pass a little birdie, play a

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Speaker 3: Nonsense, nonsense.

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Speaker 1: I want people at home to understand. Yes, the NFL

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Speaker 1: lot of times when they tell you that they're probably right,

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Speaker 1: they're probably right. But there's certain guys that gotta come

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Speaker 1: along that really don't know along with that. Bobby Wagner

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Speaker 3: Fourteen at linebacker that seems like a lot.

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Speaker 1: At linebacker, interior linebacker, fourteenth season for the Washington Commanders

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Speaker 1: last year, played all seventeen games. Availability is kind of important, right,

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Speaker 1: the NFL and tackles in.

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Speaker 3: The NFL like all.

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Speaker 1: The players, I mean, even the guys that are like

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Speaker 1: rookies and like fourteen years younger, fourteen years less wearing

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Speaker 1: tear fifth. So when you guys are questioning whether or

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Speaker 1: not this is somebody that the Dallas Cowboys should be considering,

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Speaker 1: you might want to just check the rap sheet aka

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Speaker 1: no ian, But the check the rap sheet, because this

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Speaker 1: duke is still a ball, and if you got one

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Speaker 1: year out of him with half of that productivity, you're winning, yes,

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Speaker 1: Because what I'm saying is you can spend a twelve

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Speaker 1: on a linebacker that you consider to be a sure

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Speaker 1: thing that was a dog in college. You can spend

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Speaker 1: a twenty on that. But below that, no disrespect, you're

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Speaker 1: probably hoping and rolling the dice that that person's gonna

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Speaker 1: hit right, No disrespect to all the other draft picks,

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Speaker 1: especially in this year's draft where it's pretty deep, right,

662
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Speaker 1: You're you're kind of questioning whether or not that person

663
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Speaker 1: can come in and be that guy. Some guys can,

664
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Speaker 1: some guys can't. Why have that question mark when you

665
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Speaker 1: can for sure get somebody who is a great person

666
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: right at, a great contributor in a community, great locker

667
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: room guy, and a great contributor on the field, And

668
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna hit you for the It's gonna hit you

669
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Speaker 1: for the lo.

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Speaker 4: Low yeah, lower than you would get a younger cat

671
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Speaker 4: that does all that stuff, all the same stuff. Now,

672
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: just to be completely fair, the same person that did

673
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Speaker 4: call it nonsense in the chat did reply and said,

674
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 4: if I'm Bobby, I want a chance before retirement to win,

675
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Speaker 4: not come to this type of situation, and he used it.

676
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Speaker 1: You can say that about every squad, like genuinely, like, yeah,

677
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, have they done anything in the past that

678
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: make you feel good about them going towards next year's

679
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. No, but you can't. You can't say that

680
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: for sure thing about any of these teams around the league.

681
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: Teams are turning over their rosters left and right. We

682
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: had more coaching in vacancies than than we've had in

683
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: last fifteen years. Like, there's gonna be teams that pop

684
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: up that are going to be contribute, you know, gonna

685
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: be competitors and real you know, real conversation in terms

686
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: of the playoffs that that weren't there last year. So

687
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Speaker 1: to make that statement is it's kind of like saying,

688
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: you know, peanut butter and jelly go together.

689
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the Seattle situation makes it a lot

690
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Speaker 7: more different. I mean, they turn their team around in

691
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Speaker 7: one year. Yeah, in one year. You're telling me that

692
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Speaker 7: a lot of teams don't think they can do that.

693
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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: They also drafted really well, absolutely, or look at the Patriots.

695
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Speaker 3: Look at the Patriots and what do we know from

696
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Speaker 3: the draft show teams at drafting?

697
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Speaker 1: Yeah dude, yeah, yeah, Patriots worth that three and fourteen

698
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: or whatever it was to the Super Bowl. Like come on, man,

699
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: like stuff changes in a year. So like that's erroneous

700
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Speaker 1: to make this no disrespect. Yeah, let's go into the

701
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Speaker 1: draft a little bit here.

702
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Speaker 4: Cowboys did have some guys out on the draft trail yesterday.

703
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Speaker 4: These are all reports, some of them confirmed by cameras.

704
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 5: On site, others others not camera.

705
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Schottenheimer, Christian Parker, Will McClay, we're all at the

706
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Speaker 4: Miami Pro day yesterday with some of the notable products there.

707
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 4: Of course Ruben Bain, who's on the draft cover Draft

708
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 4: Guide cover right there, mister Baine, a key messidor another

709
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 4: edge rusher from there.

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Speaker 1: You think that they help linebackers. You think they drove

711
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: to Miami. I'm just wondering. No, no, no commercial, noj Yeah.

712
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Speaker 1: I mean I was waiting those TSA lines coming.

713
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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're skipping that.

714
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Speaker 4: They're going right to the tarmac, big dog the Uh.

715
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: But yeah, Kyante Scott another late round secondary player that

716
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 4: I really like, is from Miami, and there's a there's

717
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 4: a lot of really good talent there. So they were

718
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Speaker 4: out there yesterday. Not the only place that the Cowboys

719
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Speaker 4: have been. If you really want to keep up the

720
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Speaker 4: day with all the reports on where Pep Will have been, uh,

721
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Speaker 4: I encourage you to follow Nick Harris and Tommy Yurs.

722
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Speaker 4: Those are kind of the two guys that are on

723
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Speaker 4: the pro day trail at the moment. Tommy is actually

724
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Speaker 4: at Texas Pro Day right now.

725
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Speaker 1: He drives. He did drive, no PJ.

726
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Speaker 4: He did not get Sorry, Tommy, get your butt down

727
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 4: to Austin.

728
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Speaker 1: He went to school there. You're fine. Yeah, you may

729
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: have this.

730
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Speaker 3: Khaki's all the way down.

731
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Speaker 4: Speaking of walking uh down down I thirty five. Linda Wells,

732
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Speaker 4: I don't think he'd I don't think he had the

733
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Speaker 4: private jet either. Linda, the tight ends coach, was reported

734
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Speaker 4: to have dinner with some of the Baylor draft prospects,

735
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Speaker 4: including tight end Michael Trigg the quarterback, saw your Robertson

736
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Speaker 4: and then Josh Robertson the wide receiver or Josh Cameron

737
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Speaker 4: Cameron the wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I like to mention that from Baylor probably one of

739
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Speaker 1: the best offseason retainments. I don't want to say acquisitions

740
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Speaker 1: that we had.

741
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we getting Lunda a lot of love on

742
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Speaker 3: the show.

743
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Speaker 1: Ye dub almost left, he was on was gone. Yeah,

744
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: he almost joined the McCarthy era out there, like seriously,

745
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: like that that wasn't his only possibility either. I'm I'm

746
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: pretty sure he had options. Oh he did, and I'm

747
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: pretty sure he chose to stay here. So Cowboys Nation,

748
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: whatever happens on the back And because we're not we're

749
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Speaker 1: not heavy to those conversations or negotiations like give a

750
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: give a nice little handclap to the to the front

751
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: office for finding a way to retain him, because to

752
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Speaker 1: keep to stay as a tight ends coach when you

753
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: had offensive coordinator presented to you, m something happened to

754
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: keep him here. I'll just say that and yeah, kudos.

755
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: I wonder what that could mean. Uh.

756
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Speaker 4: I want to continue with with draft stuff here though,

757
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 4: because based on our conversation in the first segment, I

758
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 4: feel like all three of us sit here and we

759
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 4: say best player available is always the goal.

760
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Speaker 1: When it comes to the NFL draft.

761
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Speaker 4: Nope, you want to take the you want to take

762
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 4: the best player available. However, when you have holes on

763
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 4: your defense, you are limited in what the best player

764
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 4: available pool looks like. You can't just pluck from the pool.

765
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Speaker 1: When you have to pick a specific type of fish,

766
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Speaker 1: you have to you have to.

767
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Speaker 4: So you're still going to see probably the best defensive

768
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 4: player on the board and where they would fit are

769
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 4: there any limitations based on your mindset of where they

770
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 4: can and cannot go with the twelfth and twenty picks

771
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Speaker 4: in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Draft limitations, Yes, I would say you do not need

773
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Speaker 1: to grab an interior defensive lineman with those with the

774
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Speaker 1: first round picks. Don't don't grab it for you know,

775
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: you know how I feel about my interior D lineman.

776
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Speaker 1: But I don't think that you need to. I think

777
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: that you have your two dogs. We'll see what Otito provides,

778
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: but you have two true proven dogs on the anterior

779
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: D line. You have other needs that you can use

780
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Speaker 1: those picks work. So I would not feel great if

781
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Speaker 1: they went out and grabbed an interior D lineman at

782
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: that pick. Would you know I would still be okay

783
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: with it? But I was like, ah, you could use

784
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: that to a linem. I could use that the grab

785
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: a dominant corner, use that you grab a D N like.

786
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: I think those are the three positions that I would

787
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: feel better about than interior D line.

788
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 4: Would you be cool making a move for a defensive

789
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 4: tackle at ninety two with that pick you got for Mosa,

790
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 4: kind of replace it with another defensive tackle that fits

791
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 4: your scheme better.

792
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: No, Okay, no, I I want depth. I want depth,

793
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: but not with those picks.

794
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I would be entirely fine with it. Honestly.

795
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 7: One of the arguments that we had last year when

796
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 7: we're arguing about edge rusher versus defensive.

797
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: Tackle, your strength is super strength.

798
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 3: Make your strength the super strength.

799
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Speaker 7: And the fact that you weren't able to extend Kenny

800
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 7: Clark or my goodness, Quentinn Williams this offseason, I think

801
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 7: is part of my philosophy there where it's like, you

802
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 7: don't know how much longer you have these guys, if

803
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 7: they're going to be here past next year, So, in

804
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 7: my opinion, like beef that up as much as you

805
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 7: possibly can and make it the dominant.

806
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: Force that it needs to be.

807
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 7: Ipically all all, for all intents and purposes, we've from

808
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 7: what we've learned about Christie Parker's defense so far and

809
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 7: all of the moves that they've made, you're not gonna

810
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 7: be able.

811
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Speaker 3: To run the ball in this team.

812
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Speaker 7: So to me, make it even more of a of

813
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 7: a competition there at defensive tackle. But uh, oh, Tito,

814
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 7: considering he's more of a deaf guy. Now, if you

815
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 7: draft a guy higher, yeah, make that that strength even more.

816
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: Uh, I would typically agree with you on almost probably

817
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: ninety plus. But because there are actual holes like there,

818
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: I get it. There are not guys currently on this

819
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: roster that I feel comfortable and confident with feeling some

820
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: of these voids with this new system. And though he

821
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: said we're gonna be versatile, we're gonna be We're gonna

822
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: be multiple in the looks. And you want kind of

823
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: Swiss army knives guys that could play multiple positions on

824
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: this defense. You want an outside linebacker that could play

825
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: you know, they could play you know, out, you know,

826
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't even know safety, and safety that could play corner.

827
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: Like you want guys that are kind of multiple, I want.

828
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: I want guys that can give some flex And if

829
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 1: you're playing an interior DEFENSI alignment, you're just playing interior

830
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: defense alignment.

831
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Speaker 7: I think you have the luxury of doing that with

832
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 7: two first round picks. If you decide to use both

833
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 7: of those first round picks, I think you're able to

834
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Speaker 7: take the best player available, regardless of the position.

835
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Speaker 3: Maybe not quarterback, maybe not sure.

836
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Speaker 1: So you would be okay using a first round pick

837
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Speaker 1: on a backup, A backup. What that's what I'm saying, like,

838
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: if you grab an interior defensilignment, they're a backup.

839
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Speaker 4: If you're grabbing an offensive player, with the exception of

840
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 4: maybe running back, it would maybe be a backup.

841
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 3: Guys, I'm talking defense here, Yeah, I'm talking.

842
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 7: So that's play's defensive player available.

843
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 4: I thought not sit here, and over the course of

844
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 4: me covering the draft for this organization, multiple times we've

845
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 4: said they have no choice but to take defense only

846
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 4: in the first round, in the first three rounds, and

847
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 4: then take offensive players in the first round. I can't

848
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 4: sit here and say that it's off the table for

849
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 4: Dallas entirely.

850
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: It's not.

851
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 4: They could upgrade their offensive tackle spot if the right

852
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 4: guy is there.

853
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: They could add to wide receiver if.

854
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 4: They don't feel confident that George Pickens is gonna stick around.

855
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 4: They could add Jeremiah Love at the running back spot.

856
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 4: Maybe not at twelve, but at twenty if he's there, Holy.

857
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: Cow, would that be fun. Grab a kicker.

858
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 4: I'm just now, I'm just saying, like, as much as

859
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 4: we sit here and we're gonna pigeonhole defense all the

860
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 4: way through, and I completely agree, Yeah, we cannot take

861
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 4: it off the table.

862
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: No, it's not off the table. It's just on the edge.

863
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: It's just light bump is knocking it off. Yeah, exactly,

864
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: just like that, just like that, like that. Yeah, No,

865
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm it's.

866
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: Like season to broccoli. It's it's over there there, it's there.

867
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be like on seasoned broccoli, unseasoned dude, what

868
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 7: are you doing?

869
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: Hold cold brocky?

870
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't do it, extra pepper on that.

871
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, we got to take our second break.

872
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 4: When we come back. I'm gonna play a little game

873
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 4: with these guys. How about blind resumes for NFL draft prospects.

874
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 4: Close your eyes and just imagine what they would fit

875
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: like in this down defense when we come back with

876
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 4: more talking cowboys after this.

877
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 10: If you shout how about them cowboys? You have that

878
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 10: undeniable passion that's the heart of Cowboys Nation. And if

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Speaker 1: From the NF. Let's freaking go, Kyle. I know, I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Whoo exciting. This is the best.

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Speaker 4: Lead in in the NFL calendar for me other than

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Speaker 4: training camp.

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Speaker 1: I do love training camp. The last time the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: had two first round picks two thousand and eight, I think, no, wow,

931
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Speaker 1: it's been a while.

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Speaker 4: I shouldn't know that off the top of my head,

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Speaker 4: but I don't. All right, blind resumes. These are NFL

934
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 4: draft prospects that right now on my list are very

935
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Speaker 4: close in terms of rankings, maybe not draft grade, but rankings.

936
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Speaker 4: They're what we call touching tag, and they're different types

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Speaker 4: of players. So I want you to tell me what's

938
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Speaker 4: going to fit. Without talking about the name of the

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Speaker 4: prospector of the school, or what they went through or

940
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Speaker 4: did from a conference standpoint or anything like that. This

941
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,959
Speaker 4: is just measurements and some tiny traits to think about

942
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 4: and what they would fit in Christian Parker's defense. So

943
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Speaker 4: start at linebacker, and we're trying to get through maybe

944
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Speaker 4: two positions here. The first linebacker is six foot one

945
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Speaker 4: two and thirty pounds and he's twenty one years old.

946
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Speaker 1: Got it all.

947
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 4: He had eight tackles for loss three and a half

948
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Speaker 4: sacks eighty eight tackles in thirteen games against premium competition.

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Speaker 4: He did not test during the Combine or his pro

950
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 4: day because he had some knee swelling and he did

951
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 4: not want to inflammatory that, but he did go through drills.

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Speaker 4: He is listed as a green dot potential immediately and

953
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Speaker 4: can call the plays on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Feel pretty good about it. That are cool?

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00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, Green dots potential. The other linebacker, linebacker number two,

956
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Speaker 4: is six foot two, two forty pounds, so a little

957
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Speaker 4: bit bigger, a little bit taller than the last linebacker.

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Speaker 4: He is also twenty one years old. He did test.

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00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 4: He went four to five one in the forty. He

960
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 4: had a thirty seven inch vertical that's ten and a

961
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 4: half inch broad downhill runner, but a tendency.

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Speaker 1: To over sell when he runs downhill and he attacks.

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Speaker 3: You already got one of those.

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Speaker 1: You got a couple of those.

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Speaker 3: You got a couple of those.

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Speaker 4: But those are your two options, linebacker one and the

967
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Speaker 4: linebacker two. If you have any questions, I will clarify,

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Speaker 4: but I will not give hints.

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00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: Speak through that one more time, okay, c J, I

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Speaker 1: let's breaking go. Well, I'll do it.

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Speaker 3: For knocking goal.

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Speaker 5: See that I was in his mind.

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Speaker 3: Not blind anymore.

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00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: Well darned. Yeah, we're so disappointing.

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Speaker 5: I went through so much this you did to make

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Speaker 5: this happen.

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Speaker 1: I was leaning towards number two? Were you I was?

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00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 3: I was going number one. I don't want the green dot.

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Speaker 1: You want the green dot potential.

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00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 3: I want the green dot potential.

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Speaker 4: They don't necessarily tab the second linebacker as a green

982
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 4: dot potential.

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00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: But yes, J Allen is number one. That is a linebacker.

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Speaker 5: I'll give you the linebacker too. I'll say six dogs,

985
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 5: six foot two two and forty.

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Speaker 4: Pounds, twenty one years old. Do you have any guesses?

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Speaker 4: I know you've listened to the draft show a little bit.

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00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, that Rodriguez.

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00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: It is not right. He was another one. I was

990
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: thinking about putting in this organiza.

991
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 4: Or putting in this, but I decided c J. Allen

992
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 4: and Rodriguez from like a testing and a side standpoint.

993
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: Are actually very comparable.

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00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: Is that the LSU guy?

995
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 4: No, it is not the LSU guy. Okay, it is

996
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 4: Anthony Hill Junior out of Texas. That is the tomic

997
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 4: and linebacker picked the second he probably would have.

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00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,959
Speaker 1: But which one you would have leaned to. I would

999
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: have leaned to. Like, over aggressiveness doesn't bother me because

1000
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: the only thing that you need for that is.

1001
00:45:58,520 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: Great coaching discipline.

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00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you, it's hard to get somebody to turn

1003
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: that switch on if they don't have that switch. I'd

1004
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: rather them have that switch and be able to pull

1005
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: them back and say, hey, let the game come, do

1006
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: you You know I'm saying, pick and choose your battles.

1007
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: But like, if somebody does not have not to say that.

1008
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: Most linebackers don't. But if you don't have that trigger,

1009
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: you can't just copy and paste that into somebody's you know,

1010
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: freaking genealogy.

1011
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 3: It's not there one hundred percent.

1012
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 7: But one of the things that I've kind of pulled

1013
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 7: at least from the combine, one of the things that

1014
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 7: they kept kind of repeating over and over, especially the

1015
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 7: Christian Parker side of things, was brain works and to me,

1016
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 7: that green Dot aspect, the fact that he was such

1017
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 7: a cerebral player, to me is indication of where the

1018
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 7: Cowboys would lean. And honestly, that was just a preference

1019
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 7: for me to begin with.

1020
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Speaker 4: And there was a comment in the chat that I

1021
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 4: kind of want to clarify a little bit here, Sonny

1022
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 4: wants to said so Kyle, Christian Parker saying that after

1023
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 4: the scheme or altering the scheme to your players was

1024
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 4: just blowing smunk because he wants a specific type and

1025
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 4: I said that in the last segment. He really wants

1026
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 4: a specific type, specific type of player, not necessarily a

1027
00:46:58,800 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 4: specific type of build.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 4: Right, he wants the serementally, he wants the work ethic,

1030
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: he wants all of that stuff. He's not going to

1031
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 4: mess around with anything other than that. From a system

1032
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 4: and an ex's and O standpoint, I think he is

1033
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 4: going to mold to whatever they end up getting. Even

1034
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 4: though a three to four is different. You're going to

1035
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Speaker 4: have to find certain guys to fit into that three

1036
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 4: four system here in year one because you've never really

1037
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 4: run that in the past. So that's where that's where

1038
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 4: we're kind of basing the measurements off of compared to

1039
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 4: the type of player that Christian Parker would want across

1040
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 4: the board.

1041
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 5: All right, let's go to corner and I'm going to

1042
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 5: try not to mess this one up.

1043
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: This timmer right right.

1044
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 4: All right, Corner number one, six foot, one hundred and

1045
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 4: ninety three pounds. He does have long arms or longer arms,

1046
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 4: I should say, thirty one and three eighths across the board.

1047
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 4: Ran a four four four forty yard dash in the

1048
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 4: NFL Combine, and he had a forty and a half vertical.

1049
00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 4: He's a ten and a half inch broad jump, and

1050
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 4: he plays with kind of the physicality of a box safety.

1051
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: It's at corner like that. I knew as soon as

1052
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: you say he was six foot, I knew he had.

1053
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 4: To have he had to have some of those things

1054
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,959
Speaker 4: across the board. So that's corner number one, corner number two.

1055
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 4: He is a little bit smaller, five foot eleven one

1056
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 4: and eighty six pounds. He did not run, but he

1057
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 4: did the jumps. He did thirty four inch vertical, ten

1058
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 4: to three broad jump. He did bench as well. He

1059
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 4: had seventeen reps on the bench across the board. Comes

1060
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 4: from some good bloodlines at the position, and he has

1061
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 4: a blend of athleticism inside to play size, to play

1062
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 4: inside or outside, and he did play both inside and

1063
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 4: outside during his time.

1064
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Speaker 7: One would you argue the second one is undersized in

1065
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 7: general or kind of the h what you already have currently.

1066
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 4: Like what you already have in terms of boundary corners. Yeah,

1067
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 4: I would probably probably put him in the same category.

1068
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 4: I would play him a nickel and I would love it, okay,

1069
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 4: and I think he would be an awesome nickel.

1070
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 3: Would you argue you already got your nickel.

1071
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: In Jalen Thompson.

1072
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 4: No, oh, in Kobe Durant, Yes, similar type of player,

1073
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 4: but this guy says.

1074
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: More of a dog.

1075
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 3: Give me option one.

1076
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: Option one. Yes, that is Colton Hood out of Tennessee.

1077
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: Colton Hood thought.

1078
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 4: To be maybe more of an option at twenty than

1079
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 4: he would be at twelve. Yes, but still a very

1080
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 4: viable cornerback option. Let's say you miss out on Monsor

1081
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 4: de Laine at twelve, who's probably high and above the

1082
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 4: number one corner in the NFL draft. If you miss

1083
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 4: out on him at twelve and you miss it, let's

1084
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 4: say you don't want to go with your mom McCoy.

1085
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 4: Who's the other Tennessee corner who's coming off of an injury,

1086
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 4: hasn't played in a year, that kind of thing. Then

1087
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 4: twenty could be where you take your corners, and that's

1088
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 4: where Colton Hood. And then number two is x Avion

1089
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 4: Terrell from Clemson, who I really do like and I

1090
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 4: think he would be a phenomenal nickel and if you

1091
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 4: need it him to go outside, I think he's Deron

1092
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 4: Bland two point zero. That's who I think he and

1093
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 4: I think he's more polished coming out of school.

1094
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 1: Than versatility guys. They can play safety and cover. That's

1095
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: what That's what I believe that Christian Parker is going for,

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Speaker 1: because you want to be multiples. You want to be

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Speaker 1: able to have three safeties in the back. You want

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Speaker 1: to be able to have you know, your nickel, your dime,

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Speaker 1: whatever it may be, no matter what the offense puts

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Speaker 1: out there. We have a guy that can cover you,

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Speaker 1: and we have a guy that can come up and hit. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So a couple of different options for you? Which one

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Speaker 1: we're watching one?

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Speaker 4: You were leaning toward one, you were also leaning toward one. Okay,

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Speaker 4: there you go.

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Speaker 1: Well what about you? What would what would your I

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Speaker 1: have Colton Hood ranked higher.

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Speaker 3: Do you think he's going to be there twenty though?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I think so. I think you would. I

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Speaker 1: have them touching tags.

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Speaker 4: Colton Hood is my corner four, uh and Terrell is

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Speaker 4: my corner five okay, behind Delanne McCoy, and then I

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Speaker 4: have Brandon CSA at three. I think I might flip Hood,

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Speaker 4: depending on I want to watch a little bit more

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Speaker 4: tape of these guys, but I might flipped the two.

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Speaker 1: But I have I have c say above Hood in Terrell. Nice.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Kyle. I like that game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we may let's keep doing with that. Yeah as

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Speaker 1: we give along.

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Speaker 5: That does it for us here on Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Hope to have Patrick back next week. Once again, well

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Speaker 4: wishes to our guys. He is probably out of surgery

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Speaker 4: by now, I would hope, but uh, we'll hope to

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Speaker 4: have him back very very soon.

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Speaker 5: For Patrick, No see Walker, who's not here?

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Speaker 4: Josh Rodriguez, we get for Isaiah stand back Chris Beam

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Speaker 4: in the back of Kyle Yeoman saying so long from

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Speaker 4: Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week.

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