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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones, Savannah Humuller,
Speaker 1: Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 2: It's a Monday morning at eleven o'clock and there are
Speaker 2: football players on a football field at the Star in Fresco,
Speaker 2: and this is Mick Shots, minus the great Everson Walls.
Speaker 2: We're gonna try to make do for the next hour
Speaker 2: here inside the SWBC podcast studio. And there is a
Speaker 2: reason that Savannah has a huge smile on her face
Speaker 2: this victory Monday for her Dallas Stars.
Speaker 3: Well, we're advancing to round two the Stanley Cup playoffs.
Speaker 4: And Mickey and I were both at the game last night.
Speaker 2: You're both at the game, absolutely all right.
Speaker 4: Very happy.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, it was down to the wire game seven,
Speaker 3: and in the third period Roddick Foxa came back scored
Speaker 3: the goal, the game winning goal, and here we are
Speaker 3: round two.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 5: I didn't think anything could beat the Game seven with
Speaker 5: Boston the other night.
Speaker 4: It was a great game when it.
Speaker 5: Went overtime and I'm going wow. And then it was
Speaker 5: heading towards overtime again and I'm going, oh no. And
Speaker 5: Foxa came through after not playing in games what three, four, five,
Speaker 5: Game two?
Speaker 2: I think yeah.
Speaker 4: So it was his first ever game seven goal.
Speaker 2: So big night for him, biggest goal of his life.
Speaker 2: And now the Stars move on to the second round
Speaker 2: and the Mavericks have moved on to the second round.
Speaker 2: And I have a proposal I would like to be.
Speaker 2: I'll volunteer my services to be the commissioner of sports.
Speaker 4: Please do we need it.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of straight.
Speaker 2: We need a commissioner of sports who has the interest
Speaker 2: of all sports fans in mind. Where you'd win for
Speaker 2: only the third time in thirty years. You have a
Speaker 2: basketball team and a hockey team from the same market,
Speaker 2: and they, for the third time in thirty years, they
Speaker 2: both advanced to the second round of the playoffs, and
Speaker 2: you schedule their games at exactly the same time in
Speaker 2: the second round of the playoffs, on the same day,
Speaker 2: same day, same time. It's Tuesday. It's Thursday for games
Speaker 2: one and two at eight thirty the MAVs in Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2: The Stars at home against Colorado, and then they play
Speaker 2: on the same day on Thursday, on Saturday, and then
Speaker 2: again on Monday and next Wednesday. If he goes to
Speaker 2: five games. Darn MAVs.
Speaker 5: They needed to get the fourth seed. What would have
Speaker 5: happened they were.
Speaker 2: Would the NFL do that? No? No, that's right.
Speaker 3: Thirteen of which the NFL schedule is set to be
Speaker 3: released this week, so we will know a little.
Speaker 2: Bit more if it is. If it comes out on Wednesday,
Speaker 2: then the Stars and the Mavericks will both take a
Speaker 2: back seat their play their second round playoff game will
Speaker 2: take a back seat on CBS eleven Sports to the
Speaker 2: NFL schedule coming out.
Speaker 5: The games are Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Tuesday, Thursday. I'm sorry. If it comes out on Thursday,
Speaker 2: then it'll take a back seat to the Yeah, be prepared, Okay, Thursday.
Speaker 2: Thursday's the day you say, that's what you're thinking thinking.
Speaker 4: Okay, and it's May ninth something around there.
Speaker 2: That would be Thursday, yes, yeah, so you better. Okay,
Speaker 2: so Thursday you watch and we will have we will
Speaker 2: have NFL the Cowboys schedule.
Speaker 5: The other games won't be over so you have.
Speaker 2: That, right, and so that's that's one of the reasons
Speaker 2: that we since the other games will be in progress
Speaker 2: at ten o'clock, I can start with Cowboys there and
Speaker 2: then get ridiculed by my friends who say, how come
Speaker 2: you always lead with the cowboys when it's May.
Speaker 5: I wonder if the Rangers are playing that day.
Speaker 2: They I think they are off that day actually, But anyway,
Speaker 2: when they go to we Digress.
Speaker 5: Well how about that? By the way, So the Rangers
Speaker 5: take two out of three. Over the weekend, Stars advanced,
Speaker 5: the MAVs advance, and the Dallas Arlington Wings won their
Speaker 5: exhibition called the Dallas Dallas.
Speaker 2: They are the Dallas. It's the Renegades, and they are
Speaker 2: now and six on the season.
Speaker 5: Already, you're going to fire the head coach.
Speaker 2: After a championship season last year.
Speaker 5: Big Game Bob isn't looking too good right now.
Speaker 2: He's lost. Big Game Bob is lost on last minute
Speaker 2: field goals, and virtually every game this season. I think, well,
Speaker 2: but he still gets to say paid the same amount
Speaker 2: of money. So even though there were seven thousand people
Speaker 2: in the stands at Ford Field in Detroit yesterday for
Speaker 2: the Renegade, oh right, and announced an announced well, it
Speaker 2: was an announced crowd of seven thousand at ford Field.
Speaker 5: So since you brought up the schedule, I was kind
Speaker 5: of looking at the opponents. We knew the opponents, right,
Speaker 5: we've already.
Speaker 2: Can you review of us on the opponents, I can't.
Speaker 2: For those of us who can't remember.
Speaker 5: The Cowboys' home opponents will be their three NFC East foes.
Speaker 2: I got that down.
Speaker 5: They're also playing the NFC South, so that'll be New
Speaker 5: Orleans and Tampa Bay. They play the winner of the
Speaker 5: NFC North, which is Detroit. They play the AFC North Baltimore, Cincinnati,
Speaker 5: and their extra game is Houston.
Speaker 2: So these are the home games.
Speaker 5: Okay, so they got one extra home game this year.
Speaker 2: Okay, run through them one more time.
Speaker 5: Washington, New York, Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: Gay Washington, New York, Philadelphia. I'm just thinking quarterbacks coming
Speaker 2: in here. So you got Jaden Daniels coming in and
Speaker 2: then the incumbents.
Speaker 5: Which was pretty funny since you brought up Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 5: NFL Network No, NFL dot Com picked ten games to watch.
Speaker 5: Number seven was the Cowboys Washington because they're going to
Speaker 5: be playing Jaden Daniels in the first time in the
Speaker 5: big rivalry. Along with Armstrong Fowler and the Yottish they
Speaker 5: failed to mention that the head coach was coordinator.
Speaker 3: They forgot that. Got Quinn, yeah.
Speaker 2: Which is probably the most significant part.
Speaker 6: Of that.
Speaker 5: Who intimately knows this Cowboys defense and probably everything he
Speaker 5: needs to know about the offense.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Okay, so do you think that Quinn will have
Speaker 2: a greater impact on the Washington franchise or will it
Speaker 2: be Beattish, Armstrong or Fowler.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Quinn.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Quinn.
Speaker 5: Continue on, Okay, the away games, saying no.
Speaker 2: I want the rest of the home games because I
Speaker 2: want to I want to purchase my tickets quarterback for
Speaker 2: the home games because I want to run through the quarterbacks.
Speaker 5: Right, Okay, New Orleans, Okay, not so much.
Speaker 2: Huh, Tampa bayre Carr coming in again? You want to
Speaker 2: see Tampa Bay. Got Baker Mayfield coming in. Okay, you
Speaker 2: got Jared Goff coming in looking for new quarterbacks. You've
Speaker 2: got Lamar Jackson coming in.
Speaker 5: Cincinnati, got Joe Burrow coming in and Houston and you
Speaker 5: get c J stre.
Speaker 4: Good home games?
Speaker 2: Are they? Well?
Speaker 4: I mean, we still we were still correct? Correct?
Speaker 3: However, can we just recall the fact that we had
Speaker 3: so many home game wins in a row, and it
Speaker 3: was obviously the green Bay loss that was our last one.
Speaker 3: But let's not the home field advantage that the Cowboys have.
Speaker 2: So but anyway, you have Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, c J. Stroud,
Speaker 2: Jared Goff, there's another probo type quarterback, Mayfield and car
Speaker 2: and then Daniels Hurts coming in.
Speaker 5: So you don't want to throw in Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, away games, away games at obviously the
Speaker 2: three San Francisco. Okay, playing at party at Atlanta, Okay, cousins.
Speaker 5: Cousins you think, or will it be Carolina?
Speaker 2: Okay, you got the top pick in the draft last year,
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and oh Russell Wilson, Yeah, and Cleveland and well
Speaker 2: it won't be Watson. So it's just right because he
Speaker 2: never plays right. So so would you rather have those
Speaker 2: for as far as this now, as far as selling tickets,
Speaker 2: that's a that's a high profile list of quarterbacks coming
Speaker 2: in here, But would you rather play the less high profile,
Speaker 2: the lower profile quarterbacks for home games? It kind of
Speaker 2: evens out the home court home field advantage there. If
Speaker 2: you've got quarterbacks coming in here.
Speaker 3: I think they're tough on both sides. All I know
Speaker 3: going to be is, yeah, but you.
Speaker 2: Got that home field advantage that gets negated sometimes.
Speaker 5: When I it they've got to the burrow here at
Speaker 5: home before. Yeah, they've got to play eleven games, play
Speaker 5: eleven games against teams with winning records from twenty twenty three,
Speaker 5: eleven nine games against playoff teams from twenty twenty three,
Speaker 5: and three of the four conference championship games teams that
Speaker 5: participated in the championship games. So, and it was just
Speaker 5: their luck this year to have to play the AFC
Speaker 5: North when all four teams had winning records. So they
Speaker 5: will have one of the toughest opponent records going into
Speaker 5: this coming season. So that'll all be pointed out when
Speaker 5: the schedule comes out, but.
Speaker 2: It can be pointed out now. And then I'm looking
Speaker 2: at one website which says schedule strength of schedule as
Speaker 2: the Cowboys at twenty second.
Speaker 5: No, that's got to be last year.
Speaker 2: No, it's twenty twenty four. NFL Strength of Schedule twenty second. Well,
Speaker 2: I guess there's a bunch of teams, oh the heart, No,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, The hardest is thirty two. So this is
Speaker 2: based on wicket so they're basically top eleven hardest schedule,
Speaker 2: which makes sense.
Speaker 5: And what happened was because they've got to play twice
Speaker 5: against Washington and Giants, it pulled it their strength.
Speaker 2: See that's the thing that the easiest last year because
Speaker 2: they were coming off they were having all the NFC
Speaker 2: East teams coming off bad seasons whatever, which is why
Speaker 2: it's ludicrous.
Speaker 5: And they got to play Atlanta and Carolina. The whole
Speaker 5: strength of schedule thing is they had bad Yeah, because
Speaker 5: it's not what the team is now, it was what
Speaker 5: it was. So anyway, be prepared for that to be
Speaker 5: fit into the local sports scene this week.
Speaker 2: And so and then the as I mentioned off the top,
Speaker 2: we have football players on a football field. It starts
Speaker 2: the second week that the cowboy coaches are allowed to
Speaker 2: be out on the field. And they're out there and
Speaker 2: they are And so my question as I walk down
Speaker 2: the hallway to the s WBC podcast studio for Mixed
Speaker 2: Shots brought to you by Miller Lyte, was I wonder
Speaker 2: when the rookies get here?
Speaker 5: So this weekend, right, rookie.
Speaker 4: Minicamp's setting you all up Fridays.
Speaker 5: Oh, they probably get.
Speaker 3: Here, go Mickey, we have Rookie Minicamp. Rookie Minicamp Friday
Speaker 3: Saturday here at the Star, get some of those rookies in.
Speaker 3: They're going to start testing out their skill sets and
Speaker 3: putting in a little bit of work. And you know what,
Speaker 3: I will say, I wanted to mention over at the
Speaker 3: Sports Academy next door.
Speaker 4: Here at the Star.
Speaker 3: I had realized that they have a big O line.
Speaker 3: It's called O Line Masterminds Training. Cooper Bebee was one
Speaker 3: of those guys that was training under that program. And
Speaker 3: then last week Tyler Geiton was in there already starting
Speaker 3: a couple of workouts with those trainers on that side.
Speaker 2: So are you able to go in there and spy
Speaker 2: on their workouts?
Speaker 4: I don't think so good, I don't believe.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 3: However, they've posted a few videos at the guys, so
Speaker 3: those are online.
Speaker 5: So all those guys will come into town on Thursday,
Speaker 5: take their physicals, and then have what twenty some guys
Speaker 5: on the field on Friday and Saturday Sunday. They're here.
Speaker 5: It's not open to the media, but it's not like
Speaker 5: they're going to go out there and play football because
Speaker 5: they don't have enough people to man every position and
Speaker 5: go eleven on eleven. So it's turned into a half
Speaker 5: hour or so on the field and a lot of meetings.
Speaker 4: Is it more getting acclimated with Yes.
Speaker 5: It's the whole.
Speaker 2: It's basically rookie orientation time.
Speaker 5: Back in the day, they actually went out there and
Speaker 5: did like a the essence of a veteran mini camp.
Speaker 5: They went at it and guys were out of shape
Speaker 5: because they're all getting ready for the draft, right, so
Speaker 5: they're not really practicing football. And then they would come
Speaker 5: here and it'd be ninety degrees with seventy percent humidity
Speaker 5: and people would get sick on the field.
Speaker 2: It's freshman orientation, that's what it is. Remember freshmen orientation Sissouri.
Speaker 2: It was it harder then you think, the freshman orientation
Speaker 2: than what it is now for incoming freshmen at colleges across.
Speaker 5: The I bet it's the same. What do you think
Speaker 5: had to start picking uh classes during freshman orientation?
Speaker 2: See, it was harder than Yeah, they don't do that.
Speaker 2: You couldn't do it online back then, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's easier now you can. If you need to
Speaker 3: do all the things.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you had to get in line and go to
Speaker 5: each You had to get a.
Speaker 2: Card, right, you had a hard copy of Seriously, it
Speaker 2: was a lot harder. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then you don't know which classes you should take
Speaker 5: and shouldn't take, right, So.
Speaker 2: You actually had to go to class. You couldn't take
Speaker 2: them online back then, aren't you?
Speaker 5: And there was no recording of the lecture either.
Speaker 2: By the way, you had to take your own tests.
Speaker 5: You had to take your.
Speaker 3: Own notes, hence why Mickey always has a legal pad
Speaker 3: with them.
Speaker 5: That's right, take the notes.
Speaker 2: Uh, that's right. Well, okay, So which, even though they're
Speaker 2: not doing much? Okay, which rookies in this class, would
Speaker 2: you be most interested in seeing for yourself up close
Speaker 2: and personal and talking to and getting to know?
Speaker 5: So after hearing their interviews after the draft, reading about him,
Speaker 5: I wrote on Friday my favorite player without having really
Speaker 5: without having actually seen him actually play.
Speaker 4: Did we discuss this last week?
Speaker 5: Although I did see him play, I just didn't know
Speaker 5: he was in the game when Missouri beat Kansas.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, on a walk off field. Good by that
Speaker 2: pudgy kicker.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 5: Cooper Bebee was playing left guard for the Wildcats. And
Speaker 5: I'll be interested to see.
Speaker 2: If we would have known then what we know now.
Speaker 2: About the Kansas State offensive line and the Missoury defensive line. Right,
Speaker 2: we could have looked at that. Whenever Darius Robinson, the
Speaker 2: first round draft pick of the Arizona Cardinals, lined up
Speaker 2: over Cooper Bbe, we would have gotten a big green
Speaker 2: notebook preview of the draft.
Speaker 5: And that's why.
Speaker 2: We need to spend our summer. We need to spend
Speaker 2: our summer studying the college prospects. College football season would
Speaker 2: be much more enjoyable for us.
Speaker 5: I did see highlights of BB against Oklahoma, by the way,
Speaker 5: and against Texas, And now Texas has two guys that
Speaker 5: got drafted right first and second round. Yes, and he
Speaker 5: stood those guys up in past protection. And then the
Speaker 5: year they had one from the year before, and the
Speaker 5: unsuspecting Demarvian Overshown came in blitzing and got the living
Speaker 5: daylights knocked out of him by Bbe. So I'm thinking
Speaker 5: he's not half. I need to see him in practice
Speaker 5: when they actually maybe once a week have contact.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yes, Cooper BB is your guy.
Speaker 5: Cooper BB.
Speaker 2: I want to mix a man to watch.
Speaker 5: I want to see if anybody gets put in the dirt.
Speaker 2: Gets dirted by Cooper Bright.
Speaker 5: And if he can make be serious though, if you
Speaker 5: know how the transition starts going to center, because my
Speaker 5: understanding is that after practices they had offensive linemen kind
Speaker 5: of playing at different positions.
Speaker 2: I think the important thing to remember about most of
Speaker 2: these colleges where you've got a guy like Cooper bb
Speaker 2: who played a little bit of tackle I think as
Speaker 2: well in college, but mainly a guard. Okay, he had
Speaker 2: not played center. And I think a lot of times
Speaker 2: what you see with these colleges, and you see it
Speaker 2: with NFL teams too, it's the more athletic players will
Speaker 2: play guard or tackle, and you might have, especially in college,
Speaker 2: a smaller but cerebral type player who when you're getting
Speaker 2: your five offensive your top five offensive linemen on the field,
Speaker 2: the guy who is less athletic but who can make
Speaker 2: the line calls and so forth, will play center. Just
Speaker 2: because Cooper Beebee did not play center, it may be
Speaker 2: because he was better served to play guard because he
Speaker 2: was more athletic than the other offensive lineman that Kansas
Speaker 2: State had. Doesn't mean he can't play center, but they
Speaker 2: probably had a lesser player who's playing center for them.
Speaker 2: And because to get your best five out there.
Speaker 5: And as kind of smart as he is that he
Speaker 5: I saw the interview and he was saying, well, I
Speaker 5: was having to make some of the line calls, playing
Speaker 5: guard and recognize what everybody was doing. So like on Tuesday,
Speaker 5: So after we had our show last week, I get
Speaker 5: this text from Dave Campbell who's in Jacksonville, and Camp's
Speaker 5: doing analysis work for one of the radio stations there,
Speaker 5: so he kind of covers the Jaguars and he texted
Speaker 5: me and said, Cooper Bebe is the best best pick
Speaker 5: the Cowboys made. He's a beast. Have a great day.
Speaker 5: Then he came back with I wanted him here in
Speaker 5: Jacksonville big time. But if not here, then Dallas. He's
Speaker 5: a big nasty which is exactly what Jacksonville doesn't have. So,
Speaker 5: for what it's worth, the former Cowboy head coach and
Speaker 5: defensive coordinator analyze Cooper Beby knew about him. How about that?
Speaker 2: Very good? So ringing endorsement there for Cooper Bebe. Now
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Speaker 2: What's the dates again?
Speaker 3: If this is on May fourteenth and fifteenth, next week
Speaker 3: here at the Star.
Speaker 2: Okay? So next week big week?
Speaker 4: Wow, country music coming to the Star.
Speaker 5: That's right, got anything to do with that?
Speaker 4: You know what? I actually do not?
Speaker 5: I do not have any everything else.
Speaker 4: I maybe I'll come in say.
Speaker 2: Stars will be playing Tuesday Monday, Right, Monday, will be
Speaker 2: Game four on that away at Colorado next Wednesday, unless
Speaker 2: they sweep them exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, Bell, We'll see about that.
Speaker 2: You're not confident? How about how about how quickly that
Speaker 2: the Stars have to get ready to play their next series.
Speaker 5: And we haven't.
Speaker 2: We just talked about your Colorado.
Speaker 5: We understand why though.
Speaker 3: There's a concert at the AAC on Wednesday night. Okay,
Speaker 3: And so with that scheduling conflict, this was the only
Speaker 3: slots that they could do for home.
Speaker 2: But it seems like it's all the the NHL, more
Speaker 2: than any league that plays seven game series, whether it
Speaker 2: be baseball or or well compared to basketball, they go
Speaker 2: as quickly as can be into the next round. And
Speaker 2: they don't care that Colorado has been sitting there for
Speaker 2: a week and hadn't played a game, and Mavericks are
Speaker 2: in the same boat where you know, they played all
Speaker 2: the way they went till Friday. They could have gone
Speaker 2: to Sunday, but Oklahoma City, they finished with their series
Speaker 2: back on last Monday or Tuesday. Theyll be sitting there
Speaker 2: for eight days, rested up for them, and Colorado's rested
Speaker 2: up for seven or eight days before they come here.
Speaker 5: Play their stale.
Speaker 2: That's possibility.
Speaker 5: I mean, they would have done it because when I
Speaker 5: look today till Savannah in clued me in, Edmonton and
Speaker 5: Vancouver are starting on Wednesday, and it's like, well they've.
Speaker 2: Been done concert. That's why that was the reason. Good
Speaker 2: to know, that's good knowledge there. But how about that?
Speaker 2: I mean, we talk about it with the NFL, where
Speaker 2: how much preparation time goes into each opponent each week.
Speaker 2: And you hear you got an NHL team they just
Speaker 2: played a Sunday night game. Seven fortunate ladies are at home.
Speaker 2: They don't have to travel for their first playoff game
Speaker 2: in the second round. But they literally are coming back today.
Speaker 2: They're handed their skill, They probably out their scouting report
Speaker 2: when they left the building last night, and then they're
Speaker 2: coming in for one day today, and then they got
Speaker 2: to play a game tomorrow, game one of the series.
Speaker 2: And this after an emotional you for it Game seven
Speaker 2: on Sunday night where they avenged their playoff loss a
Speaker 2: year ago against the defending Stanley Cup champs, and then
Speaker 2: they could come back and play two days later.
Speaker 5: It's tough, really, so don't have too much hope.
Speaker 2: For Game one Tuesday night.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean think about it, because it was
Speaker 5: a huge, emotional, electric thing. I don't think I've seen
Speaker 5: the AAC popping like that.
Speaker 4: It was the loudest I have ever heard an arena.
Speaker 5: And the after basically the handshake line, all the questions
Speaker 5: then turned to Colorado. He can't even sell it's that quick,
Speaker 5: all right? All right?
Speaker 2: Mickey told us the guy, the rookie that he's looking
Speaker 2: forward to being at rookie Mini Camp and beyond on
Speaker 2: this from this Cowboys draft, and that's Cooper Beebe, the
Speaker 2: third round pick out of Kansas State Savannah. Do you
Speaker 2: have one that you would like to throw out there.
Speaker 4: I do. I'm actually very excited to talk to the.
Speaker 3: Second round pick, Marshaun Neeland our new edge, which I
Speaker 3: think he is a very big possibility that it's a
Speaker 3: DeMarcus Lawrence two point zero that we have on our hands.
Speaker 4: So really excited to talk to him.
Speaker 3: Obviously working in that position group and just being able
Speaker 3: to get that.
Speaker 4: Leadership from DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 3: I'm interested to kind of talk to him about that,
Speaker 3: but also his time at Western Michigan and you know,
Speaker 3: just that excitement coming in here to be a Cowboy
Speaker 3: and playing on our defense under Zimmer.
Speaker 5: You know, I went back and looked at a couple
Speaker 5: big boards, and I don't know if there's a big
Speaker 5: board in the Big Green Notebook, but one had him
Speaker 5: ranked at so the thirty ninth top player in the draft,
Speaker 5: and another had him the thirty second. And so the
Speaker 5: Cowboys got.
Speaker 2: Him at fifty six.
Speaker 5: Fifty six, yep. So a lot of people thought a
Speaker 5: lot of this of this guy.
Speaker 3: He was a senior captain at Western Michigan. One hundred
Speaker 3: and ten tackles in his senior season, fifteen tackles for lost,
Speaker 3: eight sacks, and twenty catches for three hundred thirty yards
Speaker 3: and five touchdown grabs on offense.
Speaker 2: So what Yeah, I gotta see that.
Speaker 3: Second paragraph on the bottom mark.
Speaker 2: You know, Nilan. The thing about him, he didn't have
Speaker 2: very good stats and those are this you're talking his
Speaker 2: high school stats there, right, Captain. Yeah. His The thing
Speaker 2: about is his stats in college were one negative that
Speaker 2: people would cite. I want I want a guy that
Speaker 2: has more sacks, and we talked about that where you know,
Speaker 2: in the college game, they get the ball out so
Speaker 2: quickly that a lot of times it's it's I think
Speaker 2: you look at more quarterback pressures than you do sacks
Speaker 2: as to whether a guy's effective or not. Case in point,
Speaker 2: Tyler Geydon, Okay, he gave up no sacks at Oklahoma
Speaker 2: last year, is the right tackle and Mickey's favorite service,
Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus graded him with like a fifty nine
Speaker 2: grade on his pass protection. Well, he gave up no sacks,
Speaker 2: but he did give up a number of quarterback pressures.
Speaker 2: But the college quarterbacks and college offenses with the RPOs
Speaker 2: and so they get the ball out so quickly that
Speaker 2: it's very difficult to come up with a sack. An
Speaker 2: actual set now you can effect a play. But and
Speaker 2: they don't need to the point that it's not even
Speaker 2: enough official statistic in college football stats, you know, like
Speaker 2: it is in the NFL. It's basically done just by
Speaker 2: each school.
Speaker 5: Well play the run, and I think that's.
Speaker 2: One and that's why, right That's what Savannah, what you
Speaker 2: point out about him being DeMarcus Lawrence two point zero
Speaker 2: is he's a guy that looks like he can play
Speaker 2: the run, and he is much more the he will
Speaker 2: be when we hopefully DeMarcus plays a number more years.
Speaker 2: But he is the heir apparent to d law at
Speaker 2: that left base strongside defensive end when you look at
Speaker 2: his measurables.
Speaker 3: Which I think is good too, because when I look
Speaker 3: at the defense, I also look at these position groups
Speaker 3: and as far as leadership goes, you see DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 3: a big leader as far as edge goes. And then
Speaker 3: you look at the linebackers and I would say, you know,
Speaker 3: right now you have Eric Kendricks as a leader in
Speaker 3: that department right now. Also for you know corner, you're
Speaker 3: looking at probably digs in that area.
Speaker 4: So a lot of leaders.
Speaker 3: So it's interested to see how these rookies come in
Speaker 3: and they get to follow some of that leadership and
Speaker 3: then you know, see if there's something there for them
Speaker 3: as they grow into their career in the NFL.
Speaker 5: What's the Big Green notebook say about Kneelan?
Speaker 2: No, Oh, you know, I'm just I'm just intrigued by
Speaker 2: Guidon because of what the Cowboys scouts, how they feel
Speaker 2: about Guiden and his potential, and I think that's the
Speaker 2: biggest thing about We were sitting here on an NFL
Speaker 2: network during the break, We're watching their showing the Rams
Speaker 2: Lions playoff game and I look up. I see Aiden
Speaker 2: Hutchinson put this move on the left tackle for the Rams,
Speaker 2: number seventy seven. I'm going to who the heck is
Speaker 2: that playing left tackle for the Rams and had to
Speaker 2: look it up. It's a Laric Jackson who was a
Speaker 2: college free agent and he's the starting left tackle. And
Speaker 2: the Rams did nothing in the draft as far as
Speaker 2: shoring up their left tackle. Of course, they had Andrew Whitworth,
Speaker 2: who when they won the Super Bowl was forty years
Speaker 2: old playing left tackle, and you know, multiple time Pro
Speaker 2: Bowler at that position. They've they've done nothing to to
Speaker 2: improve that position and still got into the playoffs. Last year,
Speaker 2: and so I'm thinking even in the NFL these days,
Speaker 2: it's a different game than what it was even a
Speaker 2: decade ago, where you can have a guy and I
Speaker 2: think this may be into the Cowboys thinking when they're
Speaker 2: when you have Geititon and other left tackles who have
Speaker 2: those traits, the long arms, the link that that Guidon has,
Speaker 2: that you can you can coach them into being a
Speaker 2: not just a serviceable left tackle, but one who can
Speaker 2: excel in this league because you do get the ball
Speaker 2: out quicker even in the NFL than what you did
Speaker 2: in years past. There's different things that they can do
Speaker 2: offensively to help them out as well. But that's I
Speaker 2: think that's the most intriguing thing about this draft because
Speaker 2: the expectations that they have for Tyler Geydon, that he's
Speaker 2: got to his the pressure is on him to come
Speaker 2: in here and earn a starting position at left tackle
Speaker 2: right off the bat.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it'll be interesting to see if there's actual
Speaker 5: competition there. I was talking to Nate in Frisco and
Speaker 5: he was like, so what happened to awesome Richards? You
Speaker 5: know talking about young guy.
Speaker 2: Of course was a fifth round draft.
Speaker 5: He was a fifth round pick, and he kind of
Speaker 5: played some guard, he played some tackle, didn't really play
Speaker 5: in the games. And so it'd be interesting because I
Speaker 5: don't think they're just going to automatically hand the job
Speaker 5: to get and they want them to win it.
Speaker 2: What did they do with Travis Frederick when he was
Speaker 2: a first round draft pick coming in here? I want
Speaker 2: to say he went right in where he first starter,
Speaker 2: first OTA workouts of the and he was a first
Speaker 2: round there.
Speaker 5: Was nobody to compete with. If you remember where the
Speaker 5: offensive line was in twenty twelve, and I remember this distinctly,
Speaker 5: Jason Garrett telling me why they took a center. He said,
Speaker 5: for the last two years, my centers were in the
Speaker 5: quarterback lap when we were run blocking. So center was
Speaker 5: a huge need for the Cowboys at that time.
Speaker 2: And then okay, so Nathan Firstco asked about Awesome Richards.
Speaker 2: What about Matt Weillletskoyeah, it was a fifth round draft
Speaker 2: pick two years ago. He could stay healthy and that's
Speaker 2: the issue with him, and see if he and see
Speaker 2: well let's go, okay, well, let's go actually has when
Speaker 2: you just look at his length, his with his measurables there,
Speaker 2: he is right there with Tyler Goeiton as a as
Speaker 2: a left tackle prospect at six seven and a half
Speaker 2: three hundred and twelve pounds and thirty six inch arms.
Speaker 2: Okay Geydon six' eight three twenty two and he's got
Speaker 2: thirty four inch arms. His his arms are actually longer
Speaker 2: than Geyiton's arms. The problem with Matt will let's go
Speaker 2: that he's had even when he came in here as
Speaker 2: a rookie, is the shoulder. Yeah, and you got your
Speaker 2: best availability. Your best ability is your availability.
Speaker 5: And and just to look at what Mike McCarthy said
Speaker 5: after the draft that you know there's going to be competition.
Speaker 5: He pointed that out about the center position with brock
Speaker 5: Hoffman pointed out that there'll be good competition there. And
Speaker 5: I guarantee you brock Hoffman, who brings his lunch pail
Speaker 5: to work every day, is not going to just roll
Speaker 5: over and give the starting center job to the rookie.
Speaker 5: So it'll be interesting to see how all that in faults.
Speaker 5: One other guy that I talked to some people within
Speaker 5: the scouting department staff, whatever one pick they were really
Speaker 5: really interested in, is Kaylin Carson, the cornerback that he
Speaker 5: was a guy I think they Well, I don't think
Speaker 5: they drafted him in the fifth round, but I think
Speaker 5: he had a third third round grade up.
Speaker 3: He was projected to go third round according to NFL
Speaker 3: dot Com.
Speaker 5: Okay, so that's.
Speaker 3: Good there and him getting in the work with Al
Speaker 3: Harris and that group.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it sounds like he's an either or that
Speaker 5: he can play outside, but he can also play inside.
Speaker 5: And he's pretty physical cornerback. What you need if you're
Speaker 5: playing in the slot because at times you're gonna have
Speaker 5: to be forced to tackle. And so it'd be interesting
Speaker 5: to see how he fits in.
Speaker 2: I've got a trivia question for you. You mentioned who was
Speaker 2: playing center before Travis Frederick, and he always seemed to
Speaker 2: be in the quarterback's lap according to Jason Garrett. Okay,
Speaker 2: can you name who that center was? Who was the
Speaker 2: just Cowboys starting center in two thy twelve? Frederick was
Speaker 2: a first round pick thirty two overall in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 5: Got to the team as an undrafted free agent.
Speaker 2: Not oh but actually actually eight team twenty twenty twelve season.
Speaker 2: Who was the starting center for the Cowboys? Now you
Speaker 2: may be thinking of Phil Costa was a yes who
Speaker 2: started three games? Okay, he was a guard slash center,
Speaker 2: and he would he an undrafted player out of Maryland. Okay,
Speaker 2: but the guy who started eleven games at center was
Speaker 2: a second round draft pick of the Minnesota Vikings in
Speaker 2: two thousand and six out of New Mexico. And I
Speaker 2: have no memory of him being on this Cowboys team.
Speaker 2: Ryan Cook, do you have any memory of think Cook?
Speaker 5: Because Costa probably did it in twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: Ryan Cook, Well, that's what this is. Twenty twelve, he
Speaker 2: was a Costa started three games.
Speaker 5: It was even so.
Speaker 2: Costa started three games. Ryan Cook started eleven games at
Speaker 2: center for the Cowboys at twenty twelve. I sat here
Speaker 2: and looked at it and went Ryan Cook. I thought
Speaker 2: I was looking at the wrong roster. I thought it
Speaker 2: was I was looking at the Minnesota Viking roster. I
Speaker 2: do not remember Ryan Cook playing for the Cowboys, not
Speaker 2: at all, No, at all.
Speaker 5: I remember Costa. Yeah, and he was undersize.
Speaker 3: Too, you know, just speaking of the center position. I
Speaker 3: actually want to look at another team right now, Okay,
Speaker 3: with not necessarily the same similar situation to the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: But I want to talk about the Eagles for a second,
Speaker 3: because here you have Jason Kelsey retiring and so I
Speaker 3: was looking at the Eagles depth chart and their picks
Speaker 3: in the draft this year.
Speaker 4: They did not.
Speaker 3: Pick a center, which I was a little surprised by.
Speaker 3: They did get an offensive lineman and an offensive guard.
Speaker 4: Those were both.
Speaker 3: It was a fifth round pick Trevor Keegan from Michigan
Speaker 3: for a guard, and then in round six Dylan McCollen
Speaker 3: McMahon McMahon from North Carolina State. So I was kind
Speaker 3: of taking a look at their depth chart right now.
Speaker 3: They have slotted in Cam Jurgens, who was a second
Speaker 3: round pick for them in the twenty twenty two draft.
Speaker 3: But when you look at it, you have Jason Kelsey
Speaker 3: who was that primary center position for the Eagles, and
Speaker 3: now you kind of have a guy that when you
Speaker 3: take a look at it, Cam Jurgens didn't have a
Speaker 3: lot of playing time considering Jason Kelce was was there.
Speaker 4: So you have, you know, not the.
Speaker 3: Highest amount of depth at the center position for the Eagles,
Speaker 3: and here you have brock Hoffman. So a little bit
Speaker 3: similar of a similar like situation as far as looking
Speaker 3: at those centers.
Speaker 5: You mean other teams loose players too. I thought it
Speaker 5: was just the.
Speaker 2: Now Cam Jurgens started eleven games last year at guard
Speaker 2: for the Eagles guard and when they drafted Cam jur
Speaker 2: and this is this is why you have to it's
Speaker 2: not about the draft, is not about this season. It's
Speaker 2: about the next four seasons. You have to anticipate. Okay,
Speaker 2: who's going to And that's what the Cowboys do in
Speaker 2: the draft. They're you know, a lot of the outsiders
Speaker 2: are saying, well, we got to get a left tackle,
Speaker 2: We got to get whatever my position it might be
Speaker 2: because left in free agency, or we got to get
Speaker 2: a center because beyond is left in free agency. But
Speaker 2: you're looking more at Okay, you're anticipating. They anticipated two
Speaker 2: years ago that Kelsey might retire last year, so they
Speaker 2: drafted Cam Jurgens in the second round out of Nebraska
Speaker 2: two years ago. He did not start. He was a backup.
Speaker 2: And that's usually the way it works with anyone that's
Speaker 2: not a first round pick, is you're going to be
Speaker 2: a backup at least for a little while. And so
Speaker 2: it actually worked out for the Eagles where Kelsey went
Speaker 2: ahead and played and played well, didn't miss games, and
Speaker 2: so Jurgens was able to get a year under his
Speaker 2: belt as a backup and then he filled in when
Speaker 2: they had an injury at guard this year, made eleven starts,
Speaker 2: and now they the reason they didn't draft a center
Speaker 2: is because they feel like Jurgens is got and he
Speaker 2: has been he has been groomed to be the Kelsey
Speaker 2: replacement at center the couple of years. So but it's
Speaker 2: a great point because that is I was thinking the
Speaker 2: same thing with Philadelphia, that they might take a center,
Speaker 2: even in the first round. But what told you, uh,
Speaker 2: in fact, what did Let's see what the Eagles did there.
Speaker 2: They went with a cornerback in the first round, Quinnyon Mitchell,
Speaker 2: and then another cornerback in the second round, Cooper de
Speaker 2: Jene and then and edge rusher also in the second round,
Speaker 2: Jaylyx Hunt. When they did not take a center until
Speaker 2: the late rounds, that told you they believe in Cam Jurgens.
Speaker 2: And so what would have because the jury is still
Speaker 2: out on even on Cam Jurgens, even though though they
Speaker 2: picked him two years ago to be the heir apparent. Okay,
Speaker 2: now they got him in house and they see him
Speaker 2: for two years, and that shows you that they believe
Speaker 2: in Jurgens, that he can be the replacement.
Speaker 5: For Hi takes his place.
Speaker 2: At guard. Well, they've got the last year, they drafted
Speaker 2: a in the third round, Tyler Steen out of Alabama,
Speaker 2: and he, as far as I can tell, is projected
Speaker 2: to be the starter at right guard for them. And
Speaker 2: they also the other thing that they did to fortify
Speaker 2: their interior offensive line is in free agency they signed
Speaker 2: Matt Hennessy out of Atlanta and who was a center
Speaker 2: in college too, so they got that as a as
Speaker 2: a backup plan too.
Speaker 5: So other teams have guys they draft that don't start immediately.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right, that's right.
Speaker 5: Just ask there.
Speaker 2: Ideally, that's what you want. Ideally, you want your rookies
Speaker 2: not to have to start immediately. And that's the one
Speaker 2: of the things that were the Cowboys and the Eagles
Speaker 2: for that matter, in that position themselves because of how
Speaker 2: much money they're having to pay the quarterback and other
Speaker 2: positions wide receiver, two wide receivers in their case, they
Speaker 2: you have to have to have guys when you're in
Speaker 2: this position, you have to have your rookies or your
Speaker 2: second year players step up. And that's what the Cowboys
Speaker 2: are banking on from last year's draft.
Speaker 5: And if you think about it there, you know, I
Speaker 5: think Mike McCarthy has made mention of this. It's like, okay,
Speaker 5: you had a draft class the guys we took, but
Speaker 5: we had a team good enough to go twelve and five.
Speaker 5: So some of these guys had to wait their turn.
Speaker 5: You know what if and I don't know, it could
Speaker 5: have been disaster if there's no Jonathan Hankins, that mis
Speaker 5: Smith would have had to play because you know, they
Speaker 5: didn't have another, you know choice. And to the point
Speaker 5: thing with scoon Maker, you know Jason Ferguson, which, by
Speaker 5: the way, next segment we need to get into what
Speaker 5: we learned about people at the home run Derby on Winters.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but again there's somebody ahead of you. If
Speaker 5: you have a good team. These guys don't just automatically
Speaker 5: earn starting jobs.
Speaker 2: And here's the key on Guyden. It's going to be
Speaker 2: how quickly that he picks things up when he comes
Speaker 2: in here. Yes, they the expectation is that he will
Speaker 2: be your starting left tackle, but to Mickey's point, the
Speaker 2: Cowboys do have other options here. And when Tyler Goyton
Speaker 2: walks in the door for the first time this Friday,
Speaker 2: and more importantly, when he joins the veteran workouts next week.
Speaker 2: There are going to be other offensive linemen who have
Speaker 2: been in this league, including Matt will lets go, even
Speaker 2: including Awesome Richards last year, who are if they had
Speaker 2: to play a game Memorial Day weekend. Those guys are
Speaker 2: going to start ahead of Tyler Goyton obviously. But and
Speaker 2: so it's going to be how quickly can Guidon pick
Speaker 2: things up where he gains the confidence of the And
Speaker 2: we saw what Travis Frederick was like coming in here.
Speaker 2: He had loads of experience and a very good offense
Speaker 2: at Wisconsin, known for its offensive linemen, where they felt
Speaker 2: very comfortable that, yeah, this guy can handle it, didn't
Speaker 2: matter who was on campus already. There another great example
Speaker 2: of it you're going to see with the quarterbacks that
Speaker 2: were drafted early in this draft. Let's take, for instance,
Speaker 2: Drake May at New England. They got Jacoby Brissett there.
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett is a better NFL quarterback right now than
Speaker 2: Drake May is. I mean, and in probably three months
Speaker 2: from now, Jacoby Brissett is going to be a quarterback
Speaker 2: who is better suited to win football games for New
Speaker 2: England than Drake May is in September. Now They've got
Speaker 2: to make a decision. Is it more important to where
Speaker 2: is Drake may in his development? Even Minnesota. Minnesota's got
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy there, and they also have Sam Donald. Sam
Speaker 2: Donald has been in the league. He knows what's going on.
Speaker 2: They are going to be with Sam Donald in September,
Speaker 2: starting at quarterback. They have a better chance of winning
Speaker 2: games than what we're JJ McCarthy likely will be. But
Speaker 2: they may go with JJ McCarthy because the investment in
Speaker 2: him and with what the future holds with him, and
Speaker 2: they take their lumps in the meantime and break up
Speaker 2: Atlanta And obviously Atlanta has yeah anyway, all right, home
Speaker 2: run derby time when we come back here on mix shots.
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Speaker 2: Camps UMM Jason Witten sons, Cooper and CJ. Whitten state
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Speaker 2: don't know. Cooper was handing off to CJ. Or vice
Speaker 2: versa on the relay, and they've got this look of
Speaker 2: determination as they're passing the baton to each other as
Speaker 2: they're running in one of the relays, and I posted
Speaker 2: that picture and then Jason with his helmet off running
Speaker 2: against Philadelphia and Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Speaker 2: My question is, do you think Jason Whitten ever won
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Speaker 5: Chan came from Mama. There you go.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you those kids though they've got they have
Speaker 2: some and they got some Jason Witten intensity about them.
Speaker 2: I did a story on them last fall, and those kids,
Speaker 2: one's going to be a senior and the other is
Speaker 2: going to be a sophomore. So they won state Class
Speaker 2: five A private school in Texas in the fall. They
Speaker 2: move up to Class six A this year, so it's
Speaker 2: gonna level of competition is going to be greater.
Speaker 4: But you said Liberty Christian.
Speaker 2: Liberty Christian and Argyle which is near Denton for those
Speaker 2: who don't live in the area. Anyway, if I'm a
Speaker 2: college coach, I'm looking at these wit and boys and
Speaker 2: I want those guys in my program. I'm just telling you.
Speaker 5: So he's got three more years as the head.
Speaker 2: Coach I would think, I mean probably, and we'll see. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And he's had opportunities. Colleges have called him, you know,
Speaker 2: and uh, but he wants to coach his kids. And
Speaker 2: so the oldest is going to be a senior this
Speaker 2: year and uh, and then the other boys going to
Speaker 2: be I've got a couple of girls too, I think. Anyway,
Speaker 2: so very cool.
Speaker 5: Toyo Romo was at the game last night with his boys.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 5: And I think, oh, I'm not sure. I thought one
Speaker 5: person they showed looked like Brian Anger, but I.
Speaker 2: Not, Which leads us to the home run derby, the
Speaker 2: Reliant home run Derby, which took place on Wednesday at
Speaker 2: Ryders Field here in Frisco, Texas, and a lot of
Speaker 2: money was raised for the Salvation Army once again one ndred.
Speaker 5: And forty five thousand dollars, well one hundred and four
Speaker 5: for the Salvation Army. And then the media portion of it, Uh,
Speaker 5: that was.
Speaker 2: How did you do in the media portion?
Speaker 5: May didn't invite me back. I raised some maybe three.
Speaker 2: How does that work?
Speaker 5: You got to hit the ball out of the infield
Speaker 5: and you on a fly and.
Speaker 2: In the media portion or in the both players.
Speaker 5: Still as long as you get the ball out of
Speaker 5: the infield, you get something. And then if you hit
Speaker 5: the the.
Speaker 2: Temporary that's a home run.
Speaker 5: But as for.
Speaker 2: Ferguson, okay, Jake Ferguson, he.
Speaker 5: Was hitting real home runs. As a matter of.
Speaker 2: Fact, you got to get more points for a real
Speaker 2: home run.
Speaker 5: Right, more money? Yeah, I think they do okay here
Speaker 5: to save the day a couple of times. I don't
Speaker 5: know if you've been to Rough Riders Stadium or whatever
Speaker 5: they call it.
Speaker 2: I think it's writers feel they're looking for a sponsor
Speaker 2: making it your interested.
Speaker 5: In left field, the division between there's not really a
Speaker 5: grand stand, but there's.
Speaker 2: We understand, yeah.
Speaker 5: And the street there's a bunch of trees. He was
Speaker 5: hitting them into the trees.
Speaker 3: How many how many do you think ahead out of
Speaker 3: the park, out of.
Speaker 2: The How come he didn't win the whole thing?
Speaker 5: Then probably didn't have enough singles.
Speaker 2: Did and let them win the thing? I think? So
Speaker 2: this is like Josh Hamilton in the home run derby
Speaker 2: at Yankee Stadium. Josh Hamilton in twenty ten or whatever
Speaker 2: year it was home run derby at Yankee Stadium put
Speaker 2: on the most awesome performance you could ever put on
Speaker 2: and yet he didn't win it because there was rounds
Speaker 2: right right.
Speaker 5: He bore himself out.
Speaker 2: So Jake Ferguson was Josh Hamilton.
Speaker 5: With the distance. But Anger I think might have put
Speaker 5: one or two out. And I think it was guys
Speaker 5: that have like leverage, like he's kind of tall and
Speaker 5: long arms. He was just knocking the snot out of
Speaker 5: the ball. And I think he said the last.
Speaker 2: That's why those guys get recruited, right, because guys with
Speaker 2: short arms don't get drafted.
Speaker 5: I heard Zeke was there too, He participated. He was
Speaker 5: a replacement somebody couldn't make it, and Zeke volunteered and
Speaker 5: he hit He hit a bunch over the you know,
Speaker 5: temporary fence. He was smacking the ball. It was amazing.
Speaker 5: But yeah, Anger and Ferguson were pretty impressive. So we
Speaker 5: learned something about those guys as athletes, which is always
Speaker 5: really important.
Speaker 2: Also, so if you were recruiting just off the home
Speaker 2: run derby, you would Jake Ferguson would be your first
Speaker 2: round draft.
Speaker 5: I bet he played I bet he played basketball, probably
Speaker 5: fouled out a bunch in high school. But uh, Brandon Cooks,
Speaker 5: I was for me that how well he hit too,
Speaker 5: by the way, so it was interesting. We also were
Speaker 5: able and I don't know if we talked about this.
Speaker 5: Savannah on her vacation ran into Brandon Aubrey skiing. He
Speaker 5: wasn't skiing, No, he was not, but he was out
Speaker 5: because he had an appendicitis, and so he's kind of
Speaker 5: not doing much kicking right now. He's still kind of
Speaker 5: recovering from that.
Speaker 3: That's the second case of appendicitis we've heard on this
Speaker 3: team outside of coach McCarthy in recent months.
Speaker 5: Oh that's right. I forgot about Mike's appendicitis brought he
Speaker 5: had to have surgery and so he's been He probably
Speaker 5: needed this. If you think about how much he kicked
Speaker 5: between the XFL it was xf USFLFL and the Cowboys season,
Speaker 5: I mean he kicked from February to January.
Speaker 4: There's no time in between.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned the USFL because, as we talked
Speaker 2: earlier in the show, there aren't a lot of fans
Speaker 2: watching these UFL games now the merger of the XFL
Speaker 2: and the USFL. However, I think there are Cowboys coaches
Speaker 2: or scouts that are watching these an eye out them.
Speaker 2: Keep in mind, two years ago. This is okay, So
Speaker 2: this is a homework assignment for you if you can
Speaker 2: stomach it, Mickey, okay, to watch these games. Keep in
Speaker 2: mind two years ago, who did the Cowboys get out
Speaker 2: of the USFL. They got a pro bowler in Cavante Turpin.
Speaker 2: Last year they got a pro bowler out of Brandon
Speaker 2: Aubrey out of the USFL. So they had a need
Speaker 2: two years ago. They certainly had to need a kicker.
Speaker 2: Last year. We were this time last year, we were
Speaker 2: going who in the world's gonna kick for the We
Speaker 2: were too fourth of July and we were like, who's
Speaker 2: going to kick for this team? And then finally they
Speaker 2: they signed this kicker out of the USFLA So, what
Speaker 2: position might they be scouting this year to try to
Speaker 2: find that they haven't filled in free agency, but they're
Speaker 2: going to sign someone out of the out of this UFL.
Speaker 2: What position? What group would you think it might be?
Speaker 2: They really haven't replaced Stefan Gilmore at cornerback either, have
Speaker 2: they They have not? All right, so there's there's three positions.
Speaker 2: We just edge rusher. Yeah, what do you think about that?
Speaker 5: You know, I watched those by the way, don't don't
Speaker 5: tell wait.
Speaker 2: So has anyone popped out at you. Did Brandon Aubrey
Speaker 2: catch your eye last year? Now? Cavante Turpin certainly the
Speaker 2: year before because we had some product knowledge, as Parcels
Speaker 2: would put it.
Speaker 5: I told you how Brandon Aubrey caught my eye. I
Speaker 5: get a text from Chris Boniole, who was the special
Speaker 5: teams coach in Birmingham and all that, Oh you got
Speaker 5: my guy, And I was like whoo and he was
Speaker 5: like this kid is really good.
Speaker 2: Keep in mind the Cowboys also have a direct line
Speaker 2: to the talent in that league because Darryl Johnston is
Speaker 2: in charge of the personnel.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, the one thing I've noticed is Michigan's
Speaker 5: on every every week. They're always on TV. You know
Speaker 5: the head coaches.
Speaker 2: For the Michigan Panthers. Yeah, no, Mike Nolan, Oh is
Speaker 2: it really? Does he wear a suit all the sidde?
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 5: That's a good one. That is a good Also, going
Speaker 5: back to the home run derby, I don't know if
Speaker 5: we said Anger had seventeen home runs, yeah, twenty he
Speaker 5: raised Eric Kendricks going to be a very good addition
Speaker 5: to this team, not only from a talent standpoint, and experience,
Speaker 5: but he likes to talk.
Speaker 2: Oh good about that. Yeah, we love that.
Speaker 5: We've got to have guys like that helping us out right.
Speaker 5: It seems like a really, really good guy and they
Speaker 5: He was asked about why he switched, he was somewhat
Speaker 5: committed to go to San Francisco and then sign with
Speaker 5: the Cowboys. His quote was, I feel I've got a
Speaker 5: lot to give and I want to be here with Mike,
Speaker 5: meaning Mike Zimmer. I think they were looking for depth
Speaker 5: at middle linebacker and he saw this was an opportunity
Speaker 5: to actually start and get on the field. You know,
Speaker 5: he's getting up in years, so no time to sit
Speaker 5: back right now. So I was pretty impressed with with him.
Speaker 4: Well, rookie, Minnie.
Speaker 2: Camp, here we come. And so we'll have the review
Speaker 2: next week. And uh so no Monday.
Speaker 5: Show, yeap, what did we tell Chris Wednesday?
Speaker 2: It's going to be Wednesday ten am is the next
Speaker 2: edition of mix Shots, and that will provide the opportunity
Speaker 2: for Everson Walls to be.
Speaker 5: Back, yes, because if it was Monday, he is out
Speaker 5: again on another golf outing.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so we will chat at you again
Speaker 2: and the Mavericks and Stars will be moving on to
Speaker 2: the third round of the playoffs by the time we
Speaker 2: get back together after they sweep the second round series.
Speaker 2: When next Wednesday ten am for mickshots or eleven ten
Speaker 2: am for mix shots.
Speaker 5: Cowboys Yeah.
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