1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: First question we asked everybody to come on the show 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: is when you first made to the w NBA, who 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: was the first person. 4 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: To bust your ass? 5 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 3: Oh? 6 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: I know you was giving a lot. 7 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: Of buckets your rookie year. Who was that one person 8 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: bucking right back. 9 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to say DT Diana, Diana or you 10 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 4: the cappy. You know, we went one and two, so 11 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 4: that game was like big We went neck and neck. 12 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 4: I don't even know what we ended up having in 13 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 4: that game, but I just know both of them players 14 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 4: was on the same team. That's a tough guard like 15 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 4: to have to deal with Diana on the wing, Campy 16 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 4: coming on the other wing. You know, then Diana being 17 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 4: able to shoot from anywhere, you know, being aggressive in 18 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 4: her prime in her younger days, can't be being able 19 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 4: to want to drip a. 20 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: Pull transition three, big problem. 21 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was probably one of them two players that 22 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 4: might have They might have hit me for about their 23 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 4: thirty piece. I ain't gonna lie might have hit me 24 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 4: thirty piece. And plus I wasn't even on no defensive thing, 25 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: like you know my rookie year. I'm just trying to 26 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 4: get some bucks. 27 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: Yo Yo Yo Yo Live on location. 28 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 5: Me and the blackest one are still here in Orlando, 29 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 5: staying our asses at home. And today we got basketball 30 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 5: royalty with us. Y'all, we got money, moan Dad and 31 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 5: Ruge's own. She put it on the map on the 32 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 5: couple of sports illustrated before she even touched the high school. 33 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,279 Speaker 2: Who we are bees to have with. 34 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 5: Us today, miss Money, moan Simon Augustus, thank you for 35 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 5: joining us, for having me. 36 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: Bad and Ruse Louisiana, who put that ball in your 37 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: head because they said you've been You've been the one 38 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: since anybody can be the one? Like, so who started 39 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: you off with that ball? Man? 40 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 4: Pops put the ball in my hand. I tried mini 41 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 4: sports though I tried tennis, softball, I mean, you name it, 42 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 4: I probably tried it. But like basketball, well, I just 43 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 4: had a natural feel for it, like put the ball 44 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 4: in my hand, able to shoot, able to dribble. 45 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: I just remember my. 46 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 4: First session when I decided like this was what I 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 4: wanted to do. Pops was like, you want to be good, 48 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 4: you want to be great. Now I'm like, I don't 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 4: want to be great, and he was like, well, we 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: got some work to do, and so you know, we 51 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 4: ain't have a lot of money or nothing like that. 52 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: So he just started like makeshift and stuff in the yard. 53 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 4: Took the lawn chair, made like a little obstacle course 54 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 4: for me to dribble in dribble through. 55 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 3: Took his belt like. 56 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 4: Tied up my arm so I have to use one 57 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 4: hand and after the other. He took my mom's bowling 58 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 4: ball glove and put it on my shooting hands so 59 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: that I can focus on like my arch on shot 60 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 4: and things like that. I don't know where he found, 61 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 4: like now it's a thing, but you remember the glasses 62 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 4: that you prevented you from looking at when you drive. 63 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 4: Where he got him from back then, I don't know, 64 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: but I had those any and everything that he could find. 65 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 4: He was using it for to help me get better 66 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 4: on the court. And then I grew up playing on 67 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 4: the gravel court, so like you hit the ball the. 68 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: Wrong way, that gravel gonna take it. 69 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 4: So people like how you got your handles nice like 70 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 4: playing on gravel, Like I didn't know what the ball 71 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 4: was gonna go. You had to be aggressive with the handle. 72 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 4: So you know, other than that, he his first my 73 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 4: first intro to like studying the game was like the 74 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: old school pistol p doctor j Iceman, Like, I had 75 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 4: a VHS tape of pistol p when he was doing 76 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: all his like no look passes, behind the back elbow 77 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 4: passes and all this stuff back in the day before 78 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: like Jason Williams and all them guys started doing it. 79 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: I was just watched that tape until I couldn't watch 80 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: it no more and just go outside and just really 81 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: get it in. 82 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 5: At what age so early on, would you say it 83 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 5: really clicked for you where you knew that you were 84 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 5: You were better than the rest of the kids that 85 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 5: around your age, and you were able to do some 86 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 5: things that they couldn't. 87 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: Man very early, like maybe nine and ten years old 88 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 4: when you was playing on. 89 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: The baskets that they had the hook to the big basket. 90 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: I just remember being there. 91 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember being in the yard and I was 92 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 4: banging on our goal, like just dunking on it, and 93 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 4: Pop was like, you're gonna tell if I'll go when 94 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 4: you play this weekend in the game, And so we 95 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 4: had to go through like the recreational facility make sure 96 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 4: I could dunk and all this stuff, and they allowed 97 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: me to dunk as long as I didn't hang on 98 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: the rim, and I just went out that first game 99 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 4: and just banged on like one of the dudes in 100 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 4: the gym, and the whole gym like went crazy. And 101 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 4: from that day forward, the gym at a bitty ball game, 102 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 4: nine and ten year old bitty ball game. 103 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: It was like pack. 104 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: That's when I first learned about like haters and people 105 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 4: like coming booing you and stuff like that. 106 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 5: They never believed you was the right age. They won't 107 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 5: see your birth certificate and all that. 108 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 4: Hunh, well no, I ain't care about that. It was 109 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 4: just like a girl just banged on my son, Like 110 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: what's the At first it became it was like funny friendly, 111 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 4: like oh you can crack jokes, and then it got serious, 112 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 4: you know, like some of them gyms can get rowdy, 113 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 4: and so then that's like when your family get into it, 114 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 4: and it becomes like a protective thing after a while, 115 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 4: just trying to make sure I'm safe and I'm able 116 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: to do what I love without any problems, you know. 117 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: To make the cover sports illustraight, to make the cover 118 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: before you even play. 119 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 6: A high school game, Like. 120 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: How is that? Like that's that's crazy? Is she? The 121 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: next MJ? Though? Like like man They. 122 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 4: Put some pressure on me, didn't They Like, I didn't 123 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: even know. I honestly didn't even know. They told me 124 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 4: I was going to Tennessee to do a shoot to 125 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 4: meet Shamika Holst Law, and so I was just like, yo, 126 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 4: hold slaw. You know, that's during the time Tennessee was 127 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 4: doing that thing they had the three weeks by blah blah. 128 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: So I'm just excited about that. 129 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 4: I'm thinking I'm gonna get a little piece in the 130 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 4: inside of the magazine. 131 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: And just so happened. We made it to the state 132 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: championship that year. 133 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 4: One of my teammates had to go to Walgreens or 134 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 4: somewhere for something and saw the magazine and brought it 135 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: back to the hotel and was like, Yo, you knew 136 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 4: you was on the cover. It had no idea I 137 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 4: was on the cover of this magazine. So of course 138 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: from that point on, it blew up. While we was 139 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 4: at the state tournament. So we made it to the 140 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: championship game and we lost, and the team that beat us, 141 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: the coach said something slick like, you know, I guess 142 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 4: we should be on the cover. 143 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: Of you know, not the Codes. 144 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, So from that point on, it was like I 145 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 4: had the biggest bullsie on my back because it's like, 146 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 4: oh yeah, that's a girl on Sports Illustrated. 147 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: But it helped me. 148 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 4: Like though it was like, you know, it seemed like 149 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: something bad, like oh man, I got to deal with 150 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 4: all this, it was actually good because it helped me 151 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 4: hone in on my game really focused on that. No game, 152 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 4: whether I was playing pickup or this was pro am whatever, 153 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 4: I had to bring my a game because people wanted 154 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 4: to beat the girl that was on the front cover 155 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 4: of the magazine. 156 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 157 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 5: I always love to hear stories like that because, you know, 158 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 5: especially nowadays with the climate of the hoop culture and 159 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 5: how these kids get so much crazy not variety at 160 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 5: a young age. They be seventh and eighth graders with 161 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 5: a million, one hundred thousand followers on social media. So 162 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 5: to hear somebody like you did, like you really was 163 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 5: before any is social media, and it is crap like 164 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 5: to be before you can play high school, to be 165 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 5: on a couple of Sports Illustrated and then you still 166 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 5: be able to follow through and become you know what 167 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 5: I'm saying, make it to the WNBA, because you and I, 168 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 5: all of us know that a lot of people to 169 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 5: start out that early sometimes to go to their head. 170 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 5: Sometimes somewhere on the line they lose that passion or 171 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 5: that work ass to go to that drive. For you 172 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 5: to be an example of somebody that, you know what 173 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 5: I'm saying, had it bigger than most people. It's not 174 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 5: a lot of people you can say they was on 175 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 5: sports illustrated at any point in their life. 176 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: But you had it before high school and. 177 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,559 Speaker 5: You still, you know what I'm saying, stayed on task 178 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 5: and stayed on course and made it to be a 179 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 5: pro and doing big things with that. 180 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: That's a big, major salute to you. 181 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 4: That's a shout out to moms and pops because they 182 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 4: made sure I stayed humble the entire time. 183 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: He was like, you know, the little saying you're. 184 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 4: Only as good as your last game, and you know, 185 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 4: stuff like that, And so I kept that in my mind. 186 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: Also just really seeing them make the sacrifices that they 187 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 4: made to help me follow my dream, Like you know, 188 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 4: Pop's going to work and have a newspaper in the 189 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 4: shoes so that I can get new shoes to go hooping, 190 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 4: or moms having a penny pension figure out how to 191 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 4: get some ends so that I can go to different 192 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 4: camps and stuff like that, So I wouldn't want all 193 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: those sacrifices to go to work, go to waste, I'm sorry, 194 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 4: go to waste. So I use that as motivation as well, 195 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 4: Like I want to see my parents happy, I want 196 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: to make them proud. So I really, you know, keyed 197 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 4: in on what my goals were and what I wanted 198 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 4: to do. 199 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 5: Well, that's a big salute to the parents as well, then, 200 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 5: because that's a job well done. 201 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: You grew up with a couple with a couple of 202 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: players and stuff that made it to the league and 203 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, had successful lives and career. 204 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: One of the players that you grew up around was 205 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: Big Baby. When it was the first time you met 206 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: Big Baby. 207 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 4: Man, we and Big Baby kind of grew up together. 208 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 4: Like when you use that saying like it takes a 209 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 4: village to raise a kid. Big Baby was that child. 210 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 4: You know, he had a very challenging upbringing, and so 211 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: everybody in the community saw what he could be and 212 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 4: were just kind of like protecting him. But we would 213 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: be in and out of gyms in our little neighborhood 214 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 4: or whatever, and he got that nickname from the gym 215 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 4: there he was the biggest kid in the gym. Of 216 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 4: course you want him on it on your team, but 217 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 4: he was the softest kid in the gym. 218 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: He didn't want nobody to touch him. 219 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 4: He would always run and he was the kid that 220 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 4: would like take his ball and go home. 221 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: And you was like, oh man, you big baby. 222 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: And so it just like you said it enough that 223 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: it just started to catch on. 224 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: And every time somebody saw you, just what a big baby. 225 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: And Lord, don't let us play against like adults, like 226 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: when we would have that that run where it's like 227 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 4: the grown folks. He definitely didn't like playing against them 228 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 4: because they were super physical with him, like they ain't 229 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 4: let him get no calls like just tell him shut up. 230 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 4: You know how to go like shut up, you know, playball, 231 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 4: check up? 232 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 3: You know. 233 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 4: In their crime, what you saw when KG ripped into 234 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: him was what we saw. 235 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: From day one all the way to that moment. 236 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 4: We was like when we saw it on TV, everybody 237 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 4: was like calling each other like, look at it. He 238 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 4: ain't broke out of that crime yet, so passionate, yes, 239 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 4: oh my god, and that and that's what got him 240 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 4: to where he is, Like he worked really hard you know, he's. 241 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: Always had a good head about him. 242 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 4: I mean, he listens, but he's always gonna be like 243 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 4: emotional about whatever it is he's doing. 244 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 5: So extremely extremely yeah, I need to know the story 245 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 5: that he told us about stand the night at your crib. 246 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 5: Pops to this day say y'all he oh, y'all let 247 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 5: out caps he do. 248 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 4: And I just told Ma I was about to do 249 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 4: the interview with him. He was like, make sure you 250 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 4: put on that. I still ain't got the furniture truck 251 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 4: kid yet. I remember that day started off like it 252 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 4: was it was our family's time to like watch over 253 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: big baby, make sure he got to practice, and all 254 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 4: the stuff that he had going on. And so I 255 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 4: just remember the night before we went to churches chicken. 256 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 4: Moms was like, what you want, big baby? He was like, 257 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 4: I want a ten piece all breasted with mashed potatoes 258 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 4: and biscuits. Moms was like, what all breash? So you know, 259 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 4: Mom's all right cool. She ordered the ten piece. Then 260 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 4: we had to proceed to order us a ten piece 261 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 4: for our family of three to eat. 262 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: That was his deal. 263 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 4: But you know, get home, he smashed that meal, like 264 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 4: believe it or not, ate all ten pieces of them, chicken, 265 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 4: the biscuits, everything, and Mams lay the bed out and everything, 266 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 4: poll of sofa, sleeper, I'll dress it up for him 267 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 4: and everything. 268 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: Now normally on the US. 269 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 4: Any other weekend, big baby, wake up one o'clock or 270 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 4: close to the time you need to get up and 271 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: go to practice or whatever. This morning he was up 272 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 4: at eight thirty nine o'clock. So we was like, oh, 273 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 4: you know, you up bright and early. He was like, 274 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 4: oh yeah, you know, fed and breakfast. Took him on 275 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 4: out the door. Come back, Mom, like, take undressed the 276 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 4: bed so we can wash the sheet. I full look 277 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 4: the bed back stained this big on the pimm like 278 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 4: and she was like, you lie. 279 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: So the whole family gathered in the living room. We 280 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 3: just like looking at the bed like. 281 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: The mattress. 282 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 4: Tried everything to get them stains out of there, and 283 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 4: it didn't work, so we ended up getting rid of 284 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: the sofa bed and forward. Pops would just be teasing 285 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 4: him about it, like, yo, you pet him up. You 286 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 4: peed on my sofa, your man sofa. And as we 287 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 4: saw him climbing the ranks and going to college, getting 288 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 4: ready to go to prop Pops was like, for sure, 289 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: you're gonna send me a sofa sleep at some point. 290 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: Whatever it is that Pallo Santo, y'all, y'all going on here, 291 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 4: brought the truth file, So for sure, not poppsally sitting 292 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 4: back like I better see a furniture truck at some 293 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: point coming on his driveway. 294 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: Since he then owned up to. 295 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: It, Hey, he told us that story, man, I'm talking 296 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: about Man, we cried. 297 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: I think they had to edit something of the video 298 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: we last. 299 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like he was like ten, between ten and 300 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 4: thirteen years old, you know, old enough to know you're. 301 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: Old enough to get up and go to the bathroom, Like, bro, 302 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: what happened? 303 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: He said, he was nervous. 304 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: It might have been all that chicken with his guts. Man. 305 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 6: So you get to high school, you lose your first. 306 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,599 Speaker 1: Year of state and then you know, like like the 307 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: the target is on your back, like you got to 308 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: perform every year. 309 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: So after that you started like running them off. 310 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 311 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 4: I actually lost the first two years, and you know, 312 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: believe it or not, people don't understand. Like I know 313 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 4: I had the boys on my back, but I don't 314 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: believe my teammates understood the pressure they had as well 315 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 4: to perform. 316 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: And so I can't do everything by myself. 317 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 4: I can score thirty, but if the other team's going forty, 318 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 4: I need that other team coming from somewhere else, you 319 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 4: know what I mean. And it's a lot of realization 320 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 4: for them, like, oh, they're not just coming for us 321 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 4: for her, They're coming for us too. So until that 322 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 4: started to click, we didn't win no championship. It was 323 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 4: just like a growing pains. It was lessons that needed 324 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 4: to be learned prior to that, and once we as 325 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 4: a unit got together and got on the same page, 326 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 4: that's when we started like rilling off wins and doing 327 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 4: like amazing things in high school. 328 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: So tell me this, Like I remember Big Baby also 329 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: telling me also, you know be Bass, Big Brandon Besz 330 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: telling me that. 331 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 5: While they went on to be you know, all Americans 332 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 5: and all that, like you garnered probably more eyes and 333 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 5: more you know, they. 334 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: Everybody was coming to the school to see you. 335 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 5: You was more like the the not the big man, 336 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 5: but the big women on campus around there while they 337 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 5: were supposed to be what they were doing, like they 338 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 5: more people was checking for you. Tell me how that 339 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 5: was to be a female in that type of environment 340 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 5: with other all Americans on the male side, but you 341 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 5: garnering more attention and bringing more crowds in them. 342 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 4: Man, you know that was crazy, and we didn't even 343 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 4: think like that, Like you know how society thinks of 344 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 4: how they value women and men, like that isn't even 345 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: a vibe at our school. Like they just appreciated like 346 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 4: good hooping, good ballers, whether you played basketball, ran track, 347 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 4: or whatever. They just appreciated your greatness that you were 348 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 4: showcasing at the time. And so they you know, they 349 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: was right in there with everybody else. We would have 350 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 4: seven o'clock games and no live people would be in 351 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 4: the gym when the bell rung at two thirty to 352 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 4: let school out. 353 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: Fans was coming in to get a seat for the game. 354 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 4: Like they had to start opening up the concession stand 355 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 4: early and try to make that quick buck while people 356 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: in there. I'm gonna make that quick dollar while they 357 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 4: just sitting there. And we I mean we wasn't even 358 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 4: in the gym. We would take like naps and stuff, 359 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 4: meditate before the game. People fans packed. It's packed in 360 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: a gym just waiting for a seven o'clock game. And 361 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 4: it didn't matter if it was going to be a 362 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 4: blowout game or a big time game. 363 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: People were just in there. And you know what brought 364 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: me a. 365 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 4: Lot of pride was the fact that the high school 366 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 4: was the center of our community. So it brought out 367 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: a lot of the community. It brought our people that 368 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: wouldn't probably wouldn't even drive through our community at some point. 369 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: They brought people from all over. So that brought me 370 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 4: more pride than anything, seeing everyone from all walks of 371 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 4: life coming to embrace us in the hood. Like, I know, 372 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 4: it's a bunch of people from you know, different schools, 373 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: different places that were like, we're coming through this neighborhood, 374 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: but they were actually coming to park the car and 375 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 4: go on campus and watch a game. That that for me, 376 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 4: was bigger than anything they say, y'all campus. 377 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: Was lightweight, like a like a college already. 378 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah it's pretty big, you know. 379 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: Yeah the house wasn't maybe eighteen hundred kids at the 380 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 4: time something like that. Maybe a little more so. It 381 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 4: was I mean that it was crazy. I wouldn't change 382 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 4: those days for nothing. I remember running to the cafeteria. 383 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 4: My grandmother used to work in the cafeteria like thirty 384 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 4: years So whatever they would tell us every morning on TV, 385 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 4: they would run down the meals you're gonna have at 386 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 4: school for today. 387 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 3: We never had that meal. Grandma was in there. 388 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 4: Cooking red beans and rice, mustard greens, corn bread like 389 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 4: so this that atmosphere like people literally would come to 390 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 4: our school to eat like from other jobs and stuff. 391 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 4: They was like, we're gonna go over to Capitol High 392 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 4: School and get a meal, like they got a good 393 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 4: food up in there, Like. 394 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 2: So that's the real something right there. 395 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, could could have been anybody else that could have 396 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: got you outside of LSU. 397 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 4: Somebody almost got me, to be honest, I wanted to 398 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 4: go to Rutgers and I love coach stringer Man. Something 399 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 4: happened with my visit and I wasn't able to take 400 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 4: my visit to Rutgers, and I was like, that might 401 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 4: have been the game change for me had I been 402 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 4: able to take that visit. 403 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 5: My homegrow from high school went to Natasha Pointer and 404 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 5: she was from from my high school. 405 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: Went that play point guard. Then obviously CAPI went after her. 406 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 4: Exactly, So that would have been a time in CAPI 407 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 4: would have been on that team. 408 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: That would have been crazy. 409 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 2: That would have been a problem. Crazy. 410 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: So you get to LSU and you know you still 411 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: got the target on your back because you know you're 412 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: the next Jordan. 413 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: You know, So like, how. 414 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: Was it when you first get to LSU and just 415 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: to adjust from a high school game to to a 416 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: college game. 417 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 4: I remember my first day at LSU was conditioning, six am, conditioning. 418 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 4: They told us we had to meet at the indoor 419 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 4: football facility. I'm thinking, nobody told me no dress, no 420 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 4: dress code, no what shoes to wear, nothing like that. 421 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 4: So I pull out what's the Jordan Jordans? I don't know, 422 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 4: the one with the spade across the top, the little 423 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 4: what is that? 424 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: Sixteen? 425 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, sixteen sixteen. 426 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 4: Them the heavier ones out of the bunch of Jordans. 427 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 4: So I pulled out my Jordan sixteens. 428 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to the. 429 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 4: To the indoor football field. They said we were going 430 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 4: to run an indoor a suicide on the football field 431 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 4: and it had to be on the three minutes. 432 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 3: I died. I was like, I don't even know why 433 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 3: I'm here. 434 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: I know. 435 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 3: That was the real day. I was like, what happened? 436 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: You know, in high school you have maybe a week 437 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 4: with you know, without the ball or something. Do a 438 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 4: couple of sighs. Real general, get to it. College is 439 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 4: three months of just conditioning and you know. 440 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 3: Three player workouts and stuff like that prior to the. 441 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: Season starting, and I almost was like, you know, I 442 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: just don't want to be bothered with all this, this 443 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 4: is too much. We had the indoor suicide that and 444 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 4: then we had twenty four one hundred yard sprints like 445 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 4: the next conditioning day that we had to make the 446 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 4: guards had to make it under like ten seven seconds 447 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: in the post was like twelve thirty something like that. 448 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 4: I was like, this is don't make more sense. I 449 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 4: don't need to be in that much shape. I really don't, right. 450 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 5: I hated that was the thing I hated more than 451 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 5: anything like this, anything when we had to run sprints, lines, miles, 452 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 5: anything around. 453 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 2: Track I hated. 454 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: In fact, I would always get sick. 455 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 4: I would get sick the morning prior to like we 456 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 4: wing to the track because you never know knew what 457 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 4: it was going to be. 458 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: I remember one day we had a ladder. 459 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: We went like one hundred, two hundred, three hundred, four 460 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 4: hundred and then back down and when we got to 461 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 4: the end, we was like, Okay, we're cool. Coach Holland 462 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 4: mild after all of that, he was like, mile I 463 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 4: was like, yo, he laughing, he joking right. 464 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: Now, sung like yeah, I'm about to be out. 465 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 4: Couple times I was like, this college thing not meant 466 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: for me, this this, but you know now, knowing what 467 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 4: I know when I talk to young young ballers, I'm like, 468 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 4: college is meant to break you down to see what 469 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 4: you're gonna do, Like see how far you're going to 470 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 4: push yourself because a lot of stuff just didn't make 471 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 4: no sense. But now when you look back at it, it's like, well, 472 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 4: how bad do you want it? 473 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: This is? 474 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: This is that moment, Like, so I'm glad I did 475 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 4: you know have teammates around your coaching staff, and I 476 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 4: just had that inner, you know, determination and want to 477 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 4: just be better and push myself. 478 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 5: So at what point, like when you got to college, 479 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 5: did you feel like all, right after you got past 480 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 5: all of the condition and stuff, once you hit the courts, 481 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 5: how did you feel you felt like you you was 482 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 5: right where you belonged, or you was on the level 483 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 5: of everybody else. 484 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: So you were you were? You was comfortable where you 485 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: was at. 486 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 4: I was comfortable with where I was at. I grew 487 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 4: up watching uns you used to go. We couldn't afford 488 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 4: to go be a season ticket holder and all that. 489 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 4: So they had packed the p MAC, which was a 490 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 4: dollar game, and they normally did to pack the p 491 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 4: MAC against their big time rivals like Tennessee or Georgia 492 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 4: where they really need a big crowds, and so I 493 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 4: would get to go and see him play. A lot 494 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 4: of the girls I grew up playing with or against AAU, 495 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 4: so I was very fromamiliar with them, and so once 496 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 4: we got into practice and started playing games, it just 497 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 4: kind of clicked. Like it was just me assessing the situation. 498 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 4: Always was like man one or two pieces LSU would be, 499 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 4: they'll be nice if they got a couple of people, 500 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 4: and you know, when it was my opportunity to be 501 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 4: that piece that they needed, I stepped in and everything 502 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 4: just kind of happened. We just kind of started rolling 503 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 4: and just kind of enjoying, enjoying ourselves out there. That 504 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 4: was probably the freest I had been, you know, without 505 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 4: any stress, all the stress that I told you prior 506 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 4: to that point, even though it was still a lot 507 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 4: of pressure, I was at a point where I was 508 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 4: just having fun. 509 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 2: You know how that run felt when you were at LSU. 510 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 5: To run out those three years in a row And 511 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 5: what was it like when in the midst of y'all 512 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 5: running that off Sylvia coming through the doors to be 513 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 5: part of that. 514 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 4: Man It felt amazing, especially the first year we went 515 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 4: on that run. That Final four was in the Wormings, 516 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 4: and so all we was thinking about, you know, in 517 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 4: the locker room. Every time we came in the locker room, 518 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 4: it was a picture of the dome that we was 519 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 4: gonna be playing in. 520 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: And so every day we was like, we're going to 521 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 3: that dome. We're going to the Dome. 522 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 4: And we just worked at it every day. And I 523 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 4: just remember what was it, Usher's Confession. Confession's album came 524 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 4: out that year. 525 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 3: Why that was like the team album. 526 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 4: I have no idea, But when we made it to 527 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 4: the Final four, that was blasting on the bus while 528 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 4: we had a police escort heading to the New Orleans 529 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 4: or whatever, you know, getting there the second line, Like 530 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 4: you know, if you've ever been to New Orleans, you 531 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 4: know they tell you don't ever stop people from second line. 532 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 4: And that's like, you know, if somebody was sleepwalking, you 533 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 4: never worked to wake up a sleepwalk You just let 534 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 4: them do their thing. And so we got there and 535 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 4: this lady was working at the hotel and the second 536 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 4: line band started playing. She forgot she was at work. 537 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 4: She just started getting down, like just started getting down. So, 538 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 4: you know, we just remember those Mamy. It was bittersweet, 539 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 4: like we lost to Tennessee on the last last place situation, 540 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 4: but you know, to get there and look around and 541 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 4: we had all this purple and gold, this big following 542 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 4: and then that carrying on for the next two years. 543 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 3: That was amazing. 544 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 4: But you know, Sylvia taking her visit to LSU was like, everybody, 545 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 4: stop all what you're doing. Nobody's going home for the weekend. 546 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 4: We got one of the biggest recruits, you know this 547 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 4: time coming in. We got to make sure she feel 548 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 4: comfortable and really and truly, like still is so simple. 549 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: I took her to Jack in a Box. 550 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 4: We got like Ultimate cheeseburger, some egg rolls in the shake, 551 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 4: and like just chilled out. 552 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: And she was like I'm coming, like I'm coming here. 553 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 4: I don't know why y'all doing all of this, but 554 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 4: you know, make that knowing at the time, but she 555 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 4: was just like, I ain't made my mind if I'm 556 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 4: coming here. And I remember when she came, she had 557 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 4: sold us some pillows like sea loves ball, but she 558 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 4: loves like doing knitting and things like that with her hands. 559 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 4: And so I'm like this big old six six up 560 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 4: in here knitting pillows right now. But you know, we 561 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 4: knew at some point she was gonna be in the 562 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 4: paint dominating for this is like if that's what you 563 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 4: want to do off the court, cool, like do your thing, 564 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 4: but make. 565 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: Sure you bring it a game when you get here. 566 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 3: So now I was dope to see. 567 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: Sefia like like you kind of see her career unfold 568 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: and like she one of the best centers ever to 569 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: play the game. 570 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 2: Like from saying that, then when she. 571 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: Was getting recruited us, you would see her now being 572 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: one of the best centers ever to play in the game. 573 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: Like how was that to watch her career I watch 574 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: her blossom into that, man. 575 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 4: It was it's kind of like seeing big baby. I 576 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: remember when still get there and she was like real 577 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 4: like soft, and you know we had to just kind 578 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 4: of like live it up to and she'll catching and 579 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 4: put it in like she really hadn't developed her game 580 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 4: when she had back to the basket game or whatever. 581 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 4: To see her then and then to see her go 582 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 4: through her Chicago days when we had to, like we 583 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 4: go and see her today, like what we're gonna do? 584 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 4: We double with triple team, were gonna bring the whole team, 585 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 4: Like how we gonna do this? Because if not, you know, 586 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 4: we're gonna have a long night to then being able 587 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 4: to play with her again and to actually again like 588 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 4: on the team in person, like damn, I don't. 589 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 3: Have to just lip it up to you no more. 590 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 4: I can give you a little bounced feed, a little 591 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 4: one hand and she stepping off the block, hitting them 592 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 4: with the jumper and something like. 593 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 3: She never had that in her package, you know, in school. 594 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 4: But I was just grateful to be a part of 595 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 4: like witnessing her greatness and seeing her growth throughout the years. 596 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember when she first got to Chicago. We 597 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: were still working out at Hooston Gym and they was 598 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: practicing then. I remember just watching her dunk and catch. 599 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, what is going on? 600 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 3: Man? 601 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 2: She definitely came a long way. 602 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. I just wanted her to have a little bit more. 603 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 3: I was like, man, why didn't God bless me with 604 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 3: a little bit more height like that? Wanted to be 605 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 3: six six. 606 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 4: I would have told this place down had I been 607 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 4: six six like Sill could have dominated even more, like 608 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 4: the dunkin and stuff. She would do it like at 609 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 4: practice and stuff. But I'm like she did it once 610 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 4: I think in the game in college and that was it. 611 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 4: But she could have did that on a regular and 612 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 4: I would try to bring that dog out her all 613 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 4: the time and she just like, nah, I'm gonna go 614 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 4: knit pillows. 615 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 6: What did they still play of the year? How would 616 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 6: you feel when you won that? 617 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 4: Man, a lot of them awards, So I never really like, 618 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 4: you know how people sit down right down the listen. 619 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: I was never that player like I just do the work. 620 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 4: I get on the court, do my thing, and if 621 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 4: the powers that be decided that I should win that award, 622 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 4: then I win that ward, and it's all. 623 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 3: It was always a. 624 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 4: Shock to me because I'm looking across the board at 625 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 4: the talent that I'm playing against and who's around the nation, 626 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 4: and I'm like it could be any anybody any given night, 627 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 4: and for them to you know, award me that award, 628 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: I was just like, yo, like, you know, I really 629 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 4: didn't have words to express, you know how I felt 630 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 4: still don't, like I really haven't had time to sit 631 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 4: down and just look at my trophies and really assess 632 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 4: all the success that I've had throughout my career, because, 633 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 4: as you know, we just one thing to the next, 634 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 4: so you know, just being able to I don't know 635 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 4: that you know you bringing this up. I'm about to 636 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 4: go in the living room and like really like sit 637 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 4: there and really observe it because I really hadn't had 638 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 4: time to process a lot of the stuff that I've done. 639 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: Oh well, shit, you can did some shitt, did some shit, 640 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: because man, like what you did down there, it's like 641 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: they ain't. 642 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: Never seen that before. 643 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: It's time you changed the whole environment for women who 644 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: down there. 645 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: Like that's that's crazy. 646 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 4: That was my goal, you know, as like going back 647 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 4: to high school, Like you know, I didn't get to 648 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 4: go to a lot of camps. I wasn't on a 649 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 4: travel team like you know, the kids have the day 650 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 4: and all that. But the camps that I did go to, 651 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 4: I noticed that I was the only person from Louisiana there, 652 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 4: and so I prided myself like, if it's the first 653 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 4: and the last time somebody gonna see a baller from Louisiana, 654 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 4: then I want them to remember me. So I would 655 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 4: always go out there and that just kind of trickled 656 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: into you know, college pro international basket. Like, if this 657 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 4: is the first time you've seen somebody who from Louisiana, 658 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,239 Speaker 4: then I want this to be your best experience. I 659 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 4: want you to understand that it ain't a lot of 660 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 4: us out there, but where we come from, we got 661 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 4: a lot of heart, we got a lot of determination, 662 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 4: and we got a lot of like work, I think, 663 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 4: and we're gonna we're gonna bring out all you know 664 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 4: what I mean. 665 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's I mean, even aside from the awards, 666 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 5: So just the respect, you know what I'm saying, from 667 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 5: from when I would talk to Big Baby as my teammate. 668 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, man, Brandon bed It's funny. 669 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 5: I had both of them with our teammates in Orlando, 670 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 5: but they just the way just to hear them talk 671 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 5: about how you were the real superstar there in the city, 672 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 5: in the school amongst two kids. They both went McDonald's 673 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 5: and did big things, they both went pro and all 674 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 5: of that. To hear them say that, that lets you 675 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 5: know from a different light that you know, you got 676 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 5: the respect of the guys and it's genuine. This ain't 677 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 5: in front of nobody it's us just hanging out chilling 678 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 5: when it ain't nobody impressed or no capping going on. 679 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 5: It's like they telling true stories about the crowds everything 680 00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 5: you just said. 681 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 2: So that's that's that's amazing. You know what I'm saying. 682 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 5: I mean beyond when you sit the thing and looking 683 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 5: at the trophy, you think about that too. You know 684 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. The respect of our peers. We want 685 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 5: that more than anything, and. 686 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 3: Especially from those guys like seeing that process. Like I 687 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 3: was there. 688 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 4: You know, when Big Baby was trying to decide whether 689 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 4: he was gonna play football basketball. We all knew it 690 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 4: was gonna play basketball because hedn't want to take three 691 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 4: hits in football like that wasn't happening. 692 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: But he could have very well went you know in 693 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: football as well. 694 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 4: If you pull up some of his YouTube, some of 695 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 4: his footage from high school, he was dragging the whole 696 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 4: team in the end zone, you know. And Bass to 697 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 4: be honest, Bass and really get a lot of looks 698 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 4: until his junior going into his senior year and so 699 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,239 Speaker 4: to see he really pulled the Lebron on us, like 700 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 4: you know, rookie year Lebron and then be small Lebron 701 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 4: Like the next year. 702 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: Just got in the gym and got the working bass. 703 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 4: Did that his junior to senior year and just to 704 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 4: see him kind of blossom and grow and to have 705 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 4: that respect we always at LSU. 706 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 3: We went to the final four together. 707 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 4: We had that year where both teams went to the 708 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 4: final coourn and shared that, Like, you know, that was amazing, 709 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 4: especially like you know, from us, we grew up together. 710 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 4: We seen each other go through struggles together. We dreamed 711 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 4: about being here, like you know, laughed about being here 712 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 4: and not even knowing how we was gonna get here 713 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 4: and who we are. Like everybody fulfilled their their goals 714 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 4: and dreams or whatever. 715 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 3: So you know that's that's the biggest thing. 716 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: Nah, that's super dope. 717 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: LSU retired your jersey, Like for your jersey, get retired 718 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: at LSU. 719 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 2: How does that feel? 720 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: Man? 721 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 4: You know what I had to reflect on, Like when 722 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: I made my decision to come, I sat down with 723 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 4: a lot of elders and they would tell me about 724 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 4: times when they couldn't even come on LSU's campus. And 725 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 4: so they was like, yo, you know, you broke down 726 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 4: some barriers, you know what I mean, Like we came 727 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 4: down there for you and to see a sister get 728 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 4: our jersey hume in you the arena that we at 729 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 4: one point in time couldn't even you know, sit in 730 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 4: or be a fan of or nothing like that. 731 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: It was just like that racial divide down here. 732 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 4: They was like, you know, thank you, and you know, 733 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 4: I was like, I didn't even think about it, but 734 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 4: you know, your elders always have that knowledge and wisdom that. 735 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: You need to tap into. 736 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 4: And so from that point I really felt proud because 737 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 4: it was so many, you know, of my ancestors and 738 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 4: the eldest that was just so proud, like, you know, 739 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 4: one of us made it up there. 740 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 3: I don't. 741 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 4: They didn't care male or female, like all of that 742 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 4: was out of their mind. 743 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 3: Like this sister made it. She lived out her dream. 744 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 3: She made us proud. 745 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 4: And that's how I felt with my jersey hanging up there. 746 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: That's what's that's what's up. 747 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: So now we're going to the draft, asked the famous 748 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: quick draft question. Q. 749 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so she already going to the you know, 750 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 5: saying she in the green room. 751 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 2: She ain't she ain't like me, she ain't teetering. 752 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 5: On the edge of it, saying like am I gonna 753 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 5: get invited? Am I going what pick? Am I gonna be? 754 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 3: She? 755 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 5: First class? You're talking about? She top either the world? Crazy, 756 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 5: she said, she already know. It's already known that you 757 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 5: was gonna be number one all your Probably your biggest 758 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 5: worry was no outfit, right, well, what you go with 759 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 5: to the draft? 760 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: Right? 761 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 3: No way? 762 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 4: Not my biggest out I didn't know if I was 763 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 4: going to want to too. It was man cappy and 764 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 4: it could have went either way. And even coming down 765 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 4: to the outfit. We was at the final four that year, 766 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 4: and back then the draft was the next day after 767 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 4: the final four, so you really ain't have that much time. Obviously, 768 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 4: you see, I'm a tomboy at heart, so I don't 769 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 4: know nothing about no you know, business, casual clothes, what 770 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 4: you're supposed to be wear or whatever. So we go 771 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 4: to Ann Taylor and I'm like looking for stuff in 772 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 4: there that can fit me. Obviously I'm taller than the 773 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 4: normal average height of a woman, so everything was hard. 774 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 3: So I just kind of, you know, put something together 775 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 3: to go to the draft. 776 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 4: What you saw was the best that I had at 777 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 4: the moment, with the time that I had. But you know, 778 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 4: my concerns were just getting drafted. Even though I know 779 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 4: I was going, I didn't know it was gonna be 780 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 4: Minnesota or Phoenix at that point. Really truly, I didn't care. 781 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 4: I didn't like, you know, like you guys probably researched 782 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 4: where they going, who's there, what's going on. I just 783 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 4: wanted to get drafted, like I just wanted to be 784 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 4: in the league. I didn't care one or two. I 785 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 4: knew I was gonna do my thing once I got 786 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 4: in there. 787 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, so officially to go number one, how did 788 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: that feel? 789 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: Like? You the number one pick in the WNBA draft? 790 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 4: That felt good. I got to hug my parents, I 791 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 4: got to hug my dad like he's my biggest critic. 792 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 4: So that was one moment where he gave me some 793 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 4: props because other than that, he like, oh I could 794 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 4: have had one hundred percent game from the free throw 795 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 4: forty points. This that he got something to say, And 796 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 4: that was the one time he was like, you know, 797 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 4: you did good, like we made it. 798 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 3: To number one. 799 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 4: Now once that was over, then it was like, well 800 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 4: now it's back to scratch, like you got to prove 801 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 4: why you was number one. But I was excited because 802 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 4: I got to show that moment with my parents. My 803 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,479 Speaker 4: grandmother was there who also supported me throughout my time, 804 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 4: and my great aunt also. 805 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 3: At the table with me. 806 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 4: So to be able to go up there and finally 807 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 4: get that relief off and hold a jersey with the 808 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 4: president of the w n b A, I felt good. 809 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody remember them draft days, some draft days. It's amazing. 810 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: It's like you you go up another tax bracket. You 811 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: always remember that, you go up another taxt bracket, but 812 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: you all. 813 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 4: Go up another text, you all go up another text 814 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 4: back my parents still had jobs and I was still 815 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 4: trying to figure out, you know, save my little pennies, 816 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 4: put it to the sides. 817 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: I feel, let's let me get ask you this. 818 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 5: So you you hit the ground running your rookie year 819 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 5: though like not not a lot of people get to say, 820 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 5: you know, I came right in and set right on 821 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 5: the scene at the All Star How was that for you? 822 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 2: Like? 823 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 5: How did how did you feel going into the All 824 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 5: Star break and knowing that you you're gonna be you know, 825 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 5: you're part of the All Star team as a rookie though. 826 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I felt good about that. You know, 827 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 4: individual bards, but team wise, we I don't even know 828 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 4: we had our first win by then, like we you 829 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 4: know what I mean. So I was always a team player, 830 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 4: and I was kind of you know, even though I 831 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 4: was happy about being an All Star going in my 832 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 4: rookie year, I was disappointed that, Like my college coach 833 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 4: was like, hey, congratulations on your first win. 834 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 3: And it was right. 835 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 4: Before All Star break, you know, so you know, I 836 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 4: just wanted to embrace the moment. Obviously, I was out 837 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 4: there with some of the greats with swoops and Lisa 838 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 4: and Sue and you know, I mean, you name it. 839 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 4: I got a chance to being a Skills Challenge and 840 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 4: won that year. 841 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: So that brought a little. 842 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 2: Light back to Yeah, sixteen points left the team to 843 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 2: score on too. 844 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean did we win though I ain't get Yeah, 845 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 3: we ain't win. The sixteen went down to dream. 846 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 4: I hate what happened, Like as a hooper, you go 847 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 4: out there, lay your game now and. 848 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 3: Then your team losing them. It's just like you a little. 849 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 2: Y'all could have been an MVP. Maybe y'all won, you feel. 850 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 4: I feel you look at that, but now you know, 851 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 4: things happen the way they should, and I was able 852 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 4: to at least get something and go back and use 853 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 4: that to kind of celebrate back in Minnesota and also 854 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 4: use that as motivation to keep going. 855 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 6: You scored a lot of points your your rookie year. 856 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: When did you it clicked to you, like, oh, yeah, 857 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm finn I'm finna get buckets. 858 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: Every night or ever. 859 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: It's guard me because you you you came out aggressive 860 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: like your rookie year, and you was buckets. 861 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 2: They said the next you. 862 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 6: Was at least four hundred, five hundred points more than the. 863 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 2: Next person on your team. 864 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 4: You're telling me something I didn't even though I was 865 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 4: just out there getting buckets. Seeing college, we ran a 866 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 4: motion offense, so it basically went off of what the 867 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 4: other player did and you made your moves or whatever. 868 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 3: And I did fairly well in that system. 869 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 4: But then pro style, you know, we run a few plays, 870 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 4: but then they'll put you in some ISO situations where 871 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 4: you can get down. 872 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 3: Yeah I got you know, I got called in. 873 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 4: ISO situations more more than enough times where I got 874 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 4: I got a chance to get busy. And at the 875 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 4: time I was playing the three, so I was quicker 876 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 4: than most threes. So I can utilize my footwork like 877 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 4: they always call me, like baby mellow, how mellow catch 878 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 4: you in. 879 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 3: That little yes? 880 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? Do I give them a little shot fake get 881 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 4: around them and get to the post, get to the 882 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 4: goal or whatever. 883 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 3: I pull up for my jumper. 884 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 4: Like you know, everybody's like your jump was lethal because 885 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 4: it opens up the floor for me. 886 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 3: Like, how do you go to person that has a 887 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 3: great jump shot? 888 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 4: Like you know how to go to Yeah, you know 889 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 4: how to go to three point shooter? You run them 890 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 4: off the line, you know how to guard the driver? 891 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 4: You you close out short? How do you close the jump? 892 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 4: How do you know, defind a jump shot a jump shooter. 893 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 4: People really hadn't figured that out because before me and Cappy, 894 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 4: I don't know if there was you know, players in 895 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 4: the league that was going in that range consistently like that. 896 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 2: No, that's a great comparison, baby Melow. That's exactly. 897 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 5: That's seventeen eighteen foot area is you know obviously in 898 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 5: our game they don't talk about it that. 899 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 2: Much as as much anymore. But that was a murder 900 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 2: and so were you in. 901 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 3: That area exactly? 902 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: So you're you two your acl Like, how was that 903 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: for it? That was the first time you ever had 904 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: a real injury like that. 905 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 2: Yep. 906 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 3: Everything after. 907 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 4: Everything before that was just like little ankle sprains and 908 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 4: stuff like that. And you know, now I'm into meditation, 909 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 4: affirmations like speaking, you know, things. 910 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 3: That I want positively to existence. 911 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 4: Because I remember when I came out of the game, 912 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 4: like we were in Phoenix, we were playing, we got 913 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 4: back in the game, and so coach tried to give 914 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,919 Speaker 4: me a little break and as soon as I sat 915 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 4: down got some water, they went on the run and 916 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 4: so I remember the coach was like, come on, get 917 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 4: back in and I literally I was like, damn, I'm gonna. 918 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 3: Get a break. Like that was the thought that came 919 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:37,439 Speaker 3: in my head. 920 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 4: And then the possession or two later, I tore my 921 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 4: ACL and it really like it messed me up. I 922 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 4: didn't really think I told my ACL, to be honest, 923 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I just you know, dislocated my 924 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 4: kneecap popping back in. I can go back out here 925 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 4: and do my thing. And I was like, nah, mo, 926 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 4: like you're done for the season. And so that's when 927 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 4: like the mental injuries are more mental than it is physical. 928 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 4: Your body, your mind plays games on you because every 929 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 4: day it's different. I go I went in Sidney Spencer 930 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 4: was a young lady that I spoke to. She had 931 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 4: previously to her ACM. She was like, Mom, I'm gonna 932 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 4: give you this advice. Set a goal for yourself every 933 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 4: day you go into therapy. And she was like, some 934 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,439 Speaker 4: days you go and achieve and goal, some days you want, 935 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 4: but no matter what, to try to push for that goal. 936 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 3: And so that's what I did every day. If it 937 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 3: was just trying to get neflextion, if it was trying to. 938 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 4: Stand up on one leg balancing like, I would try 939 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 4: to go as long as I could, or you know, 940 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 4: surpass the time that they gave me things like that. 941 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 4: So I kept myself, I guess, and as an athlete 942 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 4: competing with myself that eventually, you know, it helped me 943 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 4: heal and get over my hurdle. But to be honest, 944 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 4: it wasn't until that same play happened to me that 945 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 4: I was able to get over that fear. So once 946 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 4: I did get back on the court, we were at 947 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 4: practice and I made the same move, rove to the 948 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 4: bucket the same way, and one of the practice guys 949 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 4: kind of like bumped me, and once I like went 950 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 4: up for the shot and came down. At that moment, 951 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 4: was like, oh, I'm good right, yeah you at that 952 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 4: point I was like, I'm back straight up. 953 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 6: So when you come back off that surgery, now you. 954 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: Got weapons, you got way, you got more, You got 955 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: Bronson like, it's not the same old team it was 956 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: when you got hurt, but now they win. 957 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 6: It got strapped up for you. 958 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: Like, how did it feel to kind of have that 959 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: star power around you when and girls to play on 960 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 1: a higher level like you man? 961 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 3: That felt good? 962 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 4: Like and people, you know when we went on our 963 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 4: run with the links and everything, people like y'all cheating? None, No, no, 964 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 4: I'm like I went through what four years of losing? Well, 965 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 4: we only won ten games a season, so there wasn't 966 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 4: no oh. We plotted a plan like nah, the stars 967 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 4: a line and we was able to get Maya. 968 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 3: Trades happened. 969 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 4: We was able to get Whalen Bronson or actually Bronson 970 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 4: was through the dispersal draft when Sacramento folded and we 971 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 4: look around and it's just like in your league, you 972 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 4: look around at great teams, but some times them teams 973 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 4: don't come together like you think they should. And the 974 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 4: first wee could practice, we going had to head. We 975 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 4: didn't do anything with the practice, guys, we just went 976 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 4: mino y mino, Like it was just us a shell drill, 977 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 4: defensive drills like and you just saw. 978 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 3: People like it's cold, like getting after it. 979 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 4: Like you know, Mayo over here taught you like she 980 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 4: ain't really talk no trash, but she had to look 981 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 4: like when she jade you up, she was like like. 982 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 3: Wailing in there. Like it was. 983 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 4: It was the intensity of that team, the tenacity that 984 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 4: we played with. On the defensive end, you got a 985 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 4: prime Bronson that's just a rebounder, just bording everything. 986 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 3: We just ate. 987 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 4: We were just able to play free and to be honest, 988 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 4: I think at that point Bronson hadn't been to a 989 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 4: final since her time, and said Way hadn't been to 990 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 4: a final since her like early years in Connecticut. 991 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 3: I had never been to the playoffs. Maya had just 992 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 3: lost the n C championship. 993 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 4: So we were hungry, like we had something to prove, 994 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 4: and it just all came together at eleven and it 995 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 4: was amazing. 996 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 3: It was amazing to feel like. 997 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: To win a championship like, ow, y'all, y'all was so deep. 998 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,240 Speaker 1: Then y'all get Cynthia Files and it's just like man, 999 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: they can't be stopped. Like that's just that's when of 1000 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: the all time great teams ever you to be a 1001 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: part of that with so many great women, like I 1002 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: was like top five in every position. 1003 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy, Like I didn't even think we would 1004 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 4: get sealed, Like I never imagine being able to play 1005 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 4: with Sylvia again in my career, Like I'm just like 1006 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 4: nobody's getting rid of her. And the opportunity came and 1007 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 4: we had already got what too prior to her coming, 1008 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 4: and we was like, oh snap, like we could probably 1009 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 4: go get four or five at this point. 1010 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 3: You know, health, you know health, while God say the same. 1011 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 4: We could do some things and was able when she 1012 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 4: came in in fifteen. It was the last two weeks, 1013 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 4: I said, So we didn't even know how well she 1014 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 4: was gonna mess with the team, but still came right 1015 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 4: in and did what she does all the time, like 1016 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 4: do her things. 1017 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 3: She just dominated the post. 1018 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 2: I'm aation. 1019 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 3: Nation. 1020 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 2: Somebody get that ship out of here. Don't come down 1021 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 2: with that. 1022 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 4: The stress that other teams had whaling coming down the 1023 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 4: floor with the rock facilitating everything. Me and Maya's flying 1024 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 4: the wings, steal and Bruston in a post, I couldn't 1025 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 4: imagine having to scout that game and who gonna guard 1026 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 4: who and what. 1027 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 3: We're gonna do. 1028 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 4: It's like most teams would be like, all right, in 1029 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 4: y'all situation, just say, let James Harden get sixty, we're 1030 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 4: gonna stop everybody else. 1031 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that wasn't it with us. 1032 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 6: Work work with her, Let me ask you this, let 1033 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 6: me ask you this. 1034 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:46,760 Speaker 3: Wait. 1035 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: Walen played like how she was she was. She always 1036 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: pushed the pace. She always looked for a teammates to 1037 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 1: try to get everybody in the ball. Didn't make it 1038 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: easier for you and Maya to coexist since y'all was 1039 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: so dominant scoring wise. 1040 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would like when I talk to young punkirs, 1041 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, watch film and Lindzae Wadean. Whalan understood 1042 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 4: the game beyond like the normal, like, oh, come down one, 1043 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 4: everybody set up, I passed, I cut like no. Whalen 1044 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 4: was like three or four steps ahead of everybody. She 1045 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 4: knew when we was gonna run two for plays. She 1046 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 4: knew when we were we needed to pick up the 1047 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 4: patnew and needed to slow it down. She looked, she 1048 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 4: saw matchups like as she was coming on the court, 1049 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 4: like oh, she got my let's run this for my 1050 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 4: real quick. Oh y'all playing it like that, We're gonna 1051 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 4: go over here like all of that. In the process 1052 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 4: of the game, she was definitely extension of the coach. 1053 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 4: Like sometimes she would go over and talk to talk 1054 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 4: to Reeve and what she was saying was what Reeve 1055 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 4: was thinking. So, you know, like when you got a 1056 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 4: point guard that's on top of her game to that point, 1057 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 4: it's easy for us to cause it. 1058 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,439 Speaker 3: All we got to do is run and play. 1059 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 4: Run the pan down, come flying off of that thing, 1060 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 4: and she gonna get you the rock or you know, 1061 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,919 Speaker 4: whatever the situation may be. 1062 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 3: So it was it was amazing play with us. 1063 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 2: She got that Steve nash Mute power. Yeah, that part 1064 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 2: of the me and crew. 1065 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 5: She got to say, Steve nash Mute, they got the 1066 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 5: same mutant power. 1067 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: Knowing Maya, knowing how much see how good she is, 1068 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: had love to play this game. How was it for 1069 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: you to when she made a decision to stop playing. 1070 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, the selfishness in me is like, man, you know, 1071 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 4: I wish that she would come back, But then you know, 1072 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 4: the I guess the humanness in me is just like 1073 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,240 Speaker 4: my soul within is like she was following a passion 1074 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 4: of purpose. And now we know, you know her and this, 1075 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 4: her and mister Irons were actually like together, and so 1076 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,320 Speaker 4: that makes sense. 1077 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:42,919 Speaker 3: Now, you know what I mean. 1078 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 4: But it was hard to digest at the moment because 1079 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 4: it's like, no, we can possibly get one more. But 1080 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 4: you know, when that call and calls and when you 1081 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 4: when it's times for you to fulfill your purpose, then 1082 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 4: I understood it. 1083 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 3: Obviously. 1084 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,800 Speaker 4: She had conversations with all of us to start in 1085 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 4: five and everybody to explain what journey she was about 1086 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 4: to go on. And at that point all we can 1087 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 4: do is really like respect it and then support her, 1088 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 4: you know, on our way. And you know, thankfully, you know, 1089 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,280 Speaker 4: her movement met his moment, you know now with everything 1090 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 4: that's going on, and he was able to be released. 1091 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 4: They were able to get married, and I'm quite sure 1092 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 4: babies are sure to follow. But I'm happy for Mady 1093 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,879 Speaker 4: because she seems really happy. We know, like I got 1094 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 4: to witness the pressures that she went through playing having 1095 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 4: to be great every day every night on the court, 1096 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 4: off the court, like you know, having she couldn't really 1097 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 4: go anywhere. 1098 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,919 Speaker 3: I remember her first year. 1099 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 4: You know, it's supposed to be like at the hotels, 1100 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 4: you know, security. 1101 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 3: Da da da da. 1102 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 4: You know, you had the people that was dropping our 1103 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 4: food off, leaving cars to be signed for her and 1104 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 4: stuff like that. So I I respect like she did 1105 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 4: everything that she could have did as a woman's beast. 1106 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 4: She don't want everything every possible award. I mean, I 1107 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 4: don't know what else it is that people want her 1108 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 4: to prove or show. But you know, she's happy and 1109 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 4: I'm happy. 1110 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: For definitely know y'all proud of her, and especially to 1111 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: see it all unfold and come on out like I 1112 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: definitely know y'all proud of her and what she and 1113 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: grew to like you know what I'm saying, all the 1114 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: fights that she is. 1115 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 2: You know, she took the world by storing y'all. 1116 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: It's one of the most dangerous combinations ever to be 1117 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: put together, right and that has ended like that You 1118 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: never know, but you know, we all as a basketball 1119 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: community is proud of her. H for sure, what your 1120 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,760 Speaker 1: other teams when when y'all when y'all lost to the field, 1121 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: because I know y'all was like once y'all got y'all won, 1122 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: that y'all won, and y'all like we finna run these 1123 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: jontes off, Like it's no brain that we finna kill everybody. 1124 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 6: So, like, how was it when y'all y'all got there 1125 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 6: and then y'all lost? 1126 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: Cause it takes it takes, you know, it takes a 1127 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: lot for teams to sit here and compete at the 1128 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 1: highest level. Y'all went to championship, championship, championship after championship, 1129 00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: and you know, the whole league is trying to take 1130 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 1: y'all that, so it takes a lot of focus to 1131 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,959 Speaker 1: continue that. But what was the team like when y'all 1132 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: lost it? 1133 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, believe it or not, we had never repeated, so 1134 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 4: we didn't know the pressure of repeating. Like every game 1135 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 4: that year was tough, and Indiana hit they stride in 1136 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 4: the playoffs. That was the good and the bad of 1137 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 4: our playoff situation. I think we converted over to what 1138 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 4: the new format, I'm not sure at this point, but 1139 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 4: we had a lot of rest in between that series. Well, 1140 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 4: Indy was rolling and came right into our series rolling 1141 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 4: as well, and they were a very physical team. They 1142 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 4: really got after us, with Tamika Catchings leading them on 1143 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 4: the defensive end and on the offensive end. So she 1144 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,479 Speaker 4: was hungry for her first championship, and we just could 1145 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 4: not match you know that what they brought. Yeah, the 1146 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 4: intensity they punched us in them off and they just 1147 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 4: kept punching and we were just like back on our 1148 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 4: heels and never did regain our footing. 1149 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 3: And so we learned a valuable lesson. 1150 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 4: Like it was quiet in that locker room after the game, 1151 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 4: you know, especially for myself because I felt like I 1152 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,959 Speaker 4: didn't play as well as I should have to help 1153 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 4: my team. But you know, it definitely helped us prepare 1154 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 4: for thirteen. 1155 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, next year. 1156 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 4: The next year, there wasn't no words, it wasn't no 1157 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 4: motivation needed. 1158 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,879 Speaker 3: We didn't have to have no pep talk yet. 1159 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 4: Like Cheryl came in did her normal like beginning of 1160 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 4: the season speech, and it was that we was after it. 1161 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 2: That was it, That's what's up. So that that was motive. 1162 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 1: That's that's the straight hold motivation for the next season 1163 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: to win the championship. 1164 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 1165 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 4: For sure, we wanted to reel off a back to 1166 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 4: back because it hasn't been done since the Sparks did 1167 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,439 Speaker 4: it in the early two thousands. So we was like, man, 1168 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 4: if we can reel off four that'll you know, put 1169 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 4: us up there with the comments, and we can get 1170 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 4: us a factor back in there, that'll put up there 1171 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 4: with the sparks, and then we you know, we up there, 1172 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 4: we might be able to talk about being you know, 1173 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 4: the team. 1174 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 3: But you know, it didn't happen like that. We ended 1175 00:50:59,200 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 3: up getting a four. 1176 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 4: But nothing will never whatever compared to what the comments 1177 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 4: then really off for in the row. 1178 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 3: Like I don't even know if that'll ever happened again. 1179 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 4: But you know, just to be in the same breath 1180 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,720 Speaker 4: as a team like that, as a player, as players 1181 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 4: like that, it means a lot to all of us 1182 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 4: straight up. 1183 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 5: I mean, tell me how it is for you to, 1184 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 5: you know, spend fourteen years with one organization and then 1185 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 5: you have to you know, you leave and you go 1186 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 5: from Minnesota to LA. 1187 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 2: How was that for you? 1188 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the fourteen years was amazing. 1189 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,839 Speaker 4: Obviously, what eight or ten of those years we you know, 1190 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 4: went on an amazing run. My time in Minnesota, like 1191 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 4: prior to getting there, my draft night, we flew I 1192 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 4: flew out. Right after that, I remember in the media 1193 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 4: asking me questions about what you know about Minnesota. I 1194 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 4: knew absolutely nothing. I didn't know the home of Prince. 1195 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,400 Speaker 4: I didn't know Atland of ten thousand, like I knew nothing, 1196 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,479 Speaker 4: But over my fourteen years, I grew to learn a lot, 1197 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 4: a lot about it. I gained a lot of knowledge 1198 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,240 Speaker 4: about that city, about the place, a lot about the fans. 1199 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 4: And they embraced me, you know, being there, putting my 1200 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,839 Speaker 4: all into the game, even in the years when we 1201 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,400 Speaker 4: were losing, you know, they embraced us. So that was 1202 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,359 Speaker 4: a wonderful journey. But then it was like a bittersweet ending. 1203 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 4: As we know how business is can be. It's just unfortunate. 1204 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 4: I had to learn that at that moment. And so 1205 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 4: making that transition to LA was tough because we, I 1206 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 4: mean technically we was rivals sixteen seventeen, were going back 1207 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 4: and forth competing for a championship, and we looking to 1208 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 4: beat them. And now I'm like, well, what I'm gonna do? 1209 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 4: You know, now I gotta make a decision. I could 1210 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 4: have went back to Minnesota, but it was still like, 1211 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,799 Speaker 4: you know, some ill feelings, like I felt, you know, 1212 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,879 Speaker 4: hurt a little bit, and it's like, can I still 1213 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 4: go there and perform and be myself? And so LA 1214 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 4: was the team that was the front runners. You know 1215 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 4: they came in and was like, yo, we would love 1216 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 4: to have you. I didn't know what my role would be. Obviously, 1217 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,879 Speaker 4: I'm very smart about where I'm at in my career, 1218 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:57,839 Speaker 4: a lot older. 1219 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 3: And still get out there and get a few buckets 1220 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 3: and everything. 1221 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 4: But more than anything, was probably gonna be, you know, mentorship, 1222 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,439 Speaker 4: just staying in younger player's ears and trying to help 1223 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 4: them grow to become the team that the Sparks hoped 1224 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 4: to be in the near future. So I felt like 1225 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 4: it was a great fit for on core and possibly 1226 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 4: off court opportunities. 1227 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,799 Speaker 3: As I, you know, transition off the court. 1228 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 2: I know what I want to ask. 1229 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 5: I got I like, you know, I'm that guy even 1230 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 5: he said you didn't you know you didn't move up 1231 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,719 Speaker 5: in a tax bracket. You know when you got your money. 1232 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 5: When you got your money, I see you like shoes 1233 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,800 Speaker 5: and stuff like that. I'm a shoe me and d 1234 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 5: and I love shoe. What did you do when you 1235 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 5: got yourself a nice little you know, you got that 1236 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 5: nice pocketbook money you and you know you ain't killing me, 1237 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 5: but you got nice little pocket money where you go 1238 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,320 Speaker 5: treat yourself? What did you do to treat yourself? Did 1239 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 5: you look back on like right now have been you know, 1240 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,319 Speaker 5: I wouldn't probably do that now, but I appreciate the 1241 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 5: hell out of it when I did it back then 1242 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 5: as a young Nah. 1243 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,359 Speaker 3: You know, I did exactly what I said I wanted 1244 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,359 Speaker 3: to do. I had. I had an uncle that just 1245 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 3: like he had a bunch of old schools. He had, 1246 00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 3: you know, lived his life. He was chilling. 1247 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 4: I'm chilling at home, get up everyone, lift weights, do 1248 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 4: his thing, drive, run his old school. 1249 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm gonna be like on Monday, 1250 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 3: you know. 1251 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 4: And when I was able to get my get my 1252 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 4: money up and stash my cash, I went and got 1253 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 4: the same car Uncle Harold had. He had a nineteen 1254 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:21,439 Speaker 4: sixty eight and paula supersport converted. And so I went 1255 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,919 Speaker 4: and got that same car and just you know, did 1256 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 4: my thing on it, and I would just ride around. 1257 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,320 Speaker 3: I was like, oh man, I felt good. I still 1258 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,799 Speaker 3: have that car. Now, you know, I still have that car. 1259 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 4: So I didn't really go and buy like crazy stuff 1260 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 4: like stuff that didn't have any value to me. Now, 1261 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 4: like you know, classic car you can always be able 1262 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 4: to sell and make a little money off of it. 1263 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 6: So when you drove the old school call. 1264 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 1: I know when I used to drive my old school, 1265 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 1: I just had old He thought he was baby snoop everybody. 1266 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 2: Because I had my old school. So you did you 1267 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,840 Speaker 2: old school music too? Or you kept the music? 1268 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:03,399 Speaker 1: Nah? 1269 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 4: You know we're from br. So we was bumping at 1270 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,239 Speaker 4: Bootsy and Webby back in the day. 1271 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:08,760 Speaker 3: Go hard. 1272 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 4: You had to go hardcore if you was Ronda old 1273 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 4: school Sundays. 1274 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 3: Now that's me and Pops. 1275 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 4: We would hop in there and we would ridey put 1276 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,840 Speaker 4: al Green and you know some of that old school 1277 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 4: When I was in there, I kept it straight gunning. 1278 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,720 Speaker 4: We were straight br BR's finest, the little Boosy Webby 1279 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 4: and anybody else at that time. 1280 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 1: So when you came up like, no, you love basketball, 1281 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 1: but who's the the women basketball players that you've seen 1282 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: from afar? Like, I know you mentioned Shamika hold Club, 1283 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: but who's the women that you've seen them for that 1284 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 1: you was kind of looking at and trying to take 1285 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,440 Speaker 1: like something patting some of your game after or be 1286 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 1: like man, I want to be like her. 1287 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 3: Man. 1288 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 4: I know people don't say her enough, but Teresa Edwards 1289 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 4: like she was a hooper and I actually got to 1290 00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 4: be coached by her with at the Links. She was 1291 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 4: one of our assistant coaches one year with the Links, 1292 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 4: and she was like, you remind me a lot of me, 1293 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 4: because sometimes it took me to get mad or angry 1294 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,760 Speaker 4: in the game. Maybe somebody pushed me talk some trash 1295 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 4: to me. Rath blew a bad call for me to 1296 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,560 Speaker 4: just like then go to work. And she was like, 1297 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,720 Speaker 4: that's the stuff that I would do, Like I would 1298 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:19,839 Speaker 4: just wait and then go. 1299 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 3: She was like, you just gotta go out there from 1300 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:22,879 Speaker 3: the tip. 1301 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,879 Speaker 4: She was like, if that's what you need, find something 1302 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 4: that pitched you off before the game and then you're 1303 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 4: ready for the game or whatever. But I just always 1304 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 4: admired her, you know, intensity on the floor, like she 1305 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 4: has some stuff with her game, she has some stuff 1306 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 4: with her like she can do a little bit of everything. 1307 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 4: And then the fact that I just like that no 1308 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 4: back down type thing, like she ain't back down for 1309 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 4: many people. And like watching them old school games, you know, 1310 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 4: I don't remember. I think she might have broke Birdie 1311 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 4: those one game, like not on purpose only, but it's 1312 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 4: just like her aggressiveness. 1313 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 3: She like, yo, get off me. Yeah. So I always 1314 00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 3: appreciate her game. 1315 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: Not your top five but your favorite five, your favorite 1316 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,239 Speaker 1: five women's players that you love to watch, Like, who 1317 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 1: is your favorite five? 1318 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 3: All right? 1319 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 4: I said, T Edwards d T Dang see, y'all put 1320 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 4: me in it because it's so like a y'all putting. 1321 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 5: Okay, your favorite five, it's strictly your you like to watch. 1322 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 2: In that box. It's just your favorite player. 1323 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 3: All right? 1324 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 4: Uh T Edwards, DT, Cappy, Lauren Jackson, Oh Kellor? 1325 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 3: What is that? That's what? Three? Four? 1326 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1327 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 3: One more? Y'all got me going through? You know what 1328 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 3: I used to like. 1329 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 4: K Low didn't get celebrated a lot in now league, 1330 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 4: but Carol Loston like mine off of them screams and 1331 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 4: her her early days and Sacramento like that technique was 1332 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 4: almost similar to what you witnessed with Golden State and 1333 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 4: Klay Thompson and Steph. 1334 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 2: Curry was solid. Yeah. 1335 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 4: I love to watch her footwork catch if you're not 1336 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 4: there's up that So yeah, I think those. 1337 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 1: Players start bench cut now. 1338 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 2: This is what he trying to get you. You got 1339 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 2: a bitch one. You gotta cut one. 1340 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 1: Uh, Diana Trassi, Cappy point dexter at Teresa. 1341 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 3: Oh Man, you got me? All right, I'm gonna have 1342 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 3: to dang. I'm gonna start DT bench cab cut. 1343 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 1: Tea, Okay, I gotta start like it hurt to say, 1344 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 1: it really did. 1345 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 2: You can't get in no trouble for this. Start bench cut. 1346 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:56,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna. 1347 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 5: I see you a sneaker here. You got your Jay's 1348 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 5: back there, super name Jordan's trung so start bench cut, 1349 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 5: Air Jordan one, Air Jordan three and Retro eleven. 1350 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 2: Start bench cut. 1351 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 4: Oh man, all right, start start the ones bench even 1352 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 4: cut the threes. 1353 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 5: You got okay, see I'm with her, I'm with her. 1354 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,479 Speaker 5: The ones gotta be it's too many ones. It don't 1355 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 5: matter what they come out with. The ones can go 1356 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 5: with any and every type of outfit and any and 1357 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 5: every type of cover. It don't matter. So the one 1358 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 5: has to be the one. And they broke the old 1359 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 5: with it. They broke them. 1360 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 2: Old with. 1361 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 4: Them on a daily And like when I'm trying to 1362 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 4: figure out what I'm gonna tell you. 1363 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 2: It don't matter what's going on the ones. 1364 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 5: You could just pull out any type of ones and 1365 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 5: they gonna go with anything that. 1366 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 2: You can come up with. 1367 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 5: I'm telling you, yeah, tell me this, tell me this, 1368 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 5: so you you just won, you know, three gold medals 1369 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 5: in the Olympic Games. But how how did it feel 1370 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 5: to be on that top twenty at twenty list? You 1371 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Top twenty WNBA players ever to 1372 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 5: be part of that the original first double list, how 1373 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:08,840 Speaker 5: did that make you feel? 1374 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1375 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 4: I remember, I think it was a fifteen list that 1376 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 4: came out before, and I wasn't knowing that one, and 1377 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 4: I remember sitting down with Coach Reeve and she was like, 1378 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 4: why do you think you're not on this list? 1379 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 3: And I looked at everybody, and most everybody. 1380 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 4: Had like a championship and you know, some other big 1381 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 4: time awards and now I was like, but I just 1382 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 4: straight went to the championships. 1383 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 3: And she was like, well, what do you want your 1384 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 3: legacy to be? 1385 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 2: Like? 1386 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 4: At this point you can change the trajectory of what 1387 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 4: your career and what your legacy will be. 1388 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:40,480 Speaker 3: From this point on. 1389 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 4: And so that's what I was working for that next 1390 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 4: what five years until they made the next list. That's 1391 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 4: what my game was about what my legacy was gonna be. 1392 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 4: And so to then get to the top twenty list 1393 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,640 Speaker 4: and see my name on that, I was like, you know, 1394 01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,240 Speaker 4: it was gratification, Like all the work that I had, 1395 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,480 Speaker 4: you know, everything that I had done to get to 1396 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,439 Speaker 4: that point and to see my name on the list 1397 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,440 Speaker 4: with all these legends, to be able to stand out 1398 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 4: there while we're taking pictures, and I'm like, like, damn, 1399 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 4: I'm a legend too, you know, yeah, like you, you 1400 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,720 Speaker 4: can't process. I was still early in my career at 1401 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 4: that point too, but I was like, damn, these these 1402 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 4: women like really did this. They paid the way for me, 1403 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 4: and now I'm sitting up here enjoying a piece of 1404 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 4: the pie with them. 1405 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 1: You know. 1406 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, You're definitely a legend in our book. 1407 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 1: Like, man, it's been fun watching you play and continue 1408 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 1: to watch you play, like every time we see you 1409 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 1: smiling or you busting somebody ass, like that's that's the 1410 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 1: best part about it. 1411 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 2: Man. Since high school, since I seen you on the cover. 1412 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 1: We've been watching it and following your career and it's 1413 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,840 Speaker 1: definitely been a pleasure to watch you hoop and. 1414 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,880 Speaker 6: And put baton rugs on the map in this jump. 1415 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 3: Thank you'll appreciating all right, that's been a wrap. 1416 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 5: We appreciate it. This has been Hughes with the Baden 1417 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 5: Rules Legend a k A Money Mom, a k A 1418 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 5: Top twenty w NBA All Time soon to be in 1419 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,880 Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame whenever she get done. You're ready, 1420 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 5: but we appreciate you. This was major salute to you. 1421 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 5: Appreciate you for coming on with us. 1422 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,040 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. I appreciate you 1423 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 6: All the players tribute dot com