WEBVTT - Signing Day Recap with Brandon Huffman

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal.

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<v Speaker 2>Holl that for me. I'm a man, I'm forty. I've

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<v Speaker 2>heard so many players say, well, I want to be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be happy for a day a of steak?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Whoo whoo and them and tie hey, everybody, and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the solid verbal. And it is. It's not signing day,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not only early so it's kind of signing day,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's signing period. But there's an official signing day

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<v Speaker 1>in early February. I don't know. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>anybody truly actually knows. But in instances like this, when

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<v Speaker 1>we bring on Brandon Hoffman, that's just what we do

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<v Speaker 1>from twenty four to seven sports two four seven or

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four to seven, twenty four to seven works.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's what I do, is do this

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<v Speaker 2>recruiting gig twenty four day? How many days? Seven days

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<v Speaker 2>in the week, twenty four See, that's that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Now your saving period.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, it's a signing period. We are recording this the

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<v Speaker 1>day after you have eaten, slept, and presumably drank recruiting

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<v Speaker 1>for these past few hours. He's showing off his coffee mug.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're watching the video version of this. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's Jackson State and Travis Hunter is the headline because

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<v Speaker 1>of how unusual and knew that situation is coupled with

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<v Speaker 1>how nil has begun in college football. Did you have

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<v Speaker 1>any inkling leading up that this was a possibility? Was

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<v Speaker 1>this anything on your radar whatsoever? And when you saw it?

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<v Speaker 1>What was your reaction?

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<v Speaker 2>So I got this question asked a couple times yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just the biggest shocker. I mean, it doesn't even

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<v Speaker 2>have any competition. The closest I could imagine and think

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<v Speaker 2>of was when the Anthony Thomas flip from USC to

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<v Speaker 2>Oregon in twenty eleven. That was you know, there was

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<v Speaker 2>still three days. I think there was the Sunday the

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<v Speaker 2>legendary message board post of the guy who saw him

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<v Speaker 2>at the airport coming back from a visit, and then

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<v Speaker 2>over the next couple of days there was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of talking is the Anthony Thomas going to go to

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<v Speaker 2>organ or to stick with you a c That was big.

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<v Speaker 2>The next year, I remember Deontay Greenberry flipping from Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame to Houston on signing day. You know, d Anthony Thomas,

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<v Speaker 2>he was the number one player on the West Coast,

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<v Speaker 2>and at the time Oregon was a month off of

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<v Speaker 2>playing for the National title s he was still in probation,

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<v Speaker 2>so that makes sense. The next year, Deontay Greenberry leaving

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame, which you know, Brian Kelly hadn't quite gotten

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<v Speaker 2>it going Houston was just coming off of Kevin Sutherland's

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<v Speaker 2>big season when he went to A and M. Still,

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<v Speaker 2>it made a little bit of sense when the first

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<v Speaker 2>text that we got in our group thread yesterday about

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson State potentially being where Travis Hunter ended up and

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<v Speaker 2>that he had scrubbed Florida State from Did I just

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<v Speaker 2>say President State.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, Florida State? Yeah, this season, Yeah, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Had scrubbed the Florida State stuff from his Instagram, So

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<v Speaker 2>of course I'm an old guy. I go to Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>there were still Florida State stuff there. Then all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden you started to see it really taking over

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<v Speaker 2>social media. Five ten minutes later, the first I think

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Wilcom finally mentioned it on CDs Sports HQ, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's when it became real. Yeah, it took a go,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a good thirty forty minutes to wrap our

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<v Speaker 2>heads around, like did a kid just really decommit from

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<v Speaker 2>Florida State to go to Jackson State. And the answer

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<v Speaker 2>to that was yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>He did put into context who Travis Hunter is both

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<v Speaker 1>within this class and during your time following recruiting. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know exactly how good any of these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are because they're playing against highchool kids, but you're projecting.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in the job of projecting and seeing how a

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<v Speaker 1>kid develops. Is there a corner who is comparable? I

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<v Speaker 1>was seeing a lot of like he is the highest

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<v Speaker 1>rated corner or athlete or anything in the history of

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty four to seven two four seven rating system.

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<v Speaker 1>It was was that true to your eyes? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>you know? Is he Patrick Peterson?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he like?

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<v Speaker 1>Who is he historically?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? Is he?

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<v Speaker 1>Does he have a comp or is he a guy

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<v Speaker 1>sort of standing alone?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that the comp that I saw, So I

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<v Speaker 3>saw him in February out of the Pylon seven on

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<v Speaker 3>seven in Mulitz and he was playing receiver but also

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<v Speaker 3>played some dB when I watched him.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to kind of sound like a crazy

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<v Speaker 2>comparison because their body tests are so different, but he

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<v Speaker 2>was a little bit like watching the Dori Jackson with

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<v Speaker 2>the way he could float, flip his hips.

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<v Speaker 1>But he actually could cover right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it was like watching Jalen Ramsey with his

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<v Speaker 2>ball skills and his coverage ability. So imagine Jalen Ramsey

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<v Speaker 2>moving around like a Dori Jackson or Dori Jackson moving

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<v Speaker 2>around like Jalen Ramsey. That's what Travis Hunter was. And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I've seen the Marquis Lee types, the Juju Smith's,

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<v Speaker 2>guys that were receivers that could have probably been star

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<v Speaker 2>safety's Keenan Allen. Then he saw some guys that played

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<v Speaker 2>safety that could have been star receivers. I firmly believe

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<v Speaker 2>Travis Hunter could be the best receiver in the country

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<v Speaker 2>in this class. But he has such a unique style

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<v Speaker 2>to his game that he's going to be a lockdown

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<v Speaker 2>NFL corner after being a lockdown what is it slack

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<v Speaker 2>CS corner. But I would say Jalen Ramsey to me

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<v Speaker 2>was probably the closest com just in terms of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that he can do as a dB. They're just

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<v Speaker 2>so unique, so rare.

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<v Speaker 1>The things that I mean, Look, we have all the

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<v Speaker 1>coaching changes, so that's going to be fascinating. We can

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<v Speaker 1>get into some of that and how the calculus has

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<v Speaker 1>changed with basically no time to recruit for a new school.

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<v Speaker 1>But fascinating to me was also what's happening in Texas

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<v Speaker 1>right now because what Jimbo Fisher was able to do

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he brings over the longtime Georgia recruiting

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator and he sort of spearheaded efforts and improved efforts

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<v Speaker 1>at Texas A and M. And obviously what Texas was

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<v Speaker 1>able to do with Sarks first full recruiting cycle. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if either one of those stood out to

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<v Speaker 1>you in terms of a surprise the heights that they reached,

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<v Speaker 1>or the types of kids, or if they're new types

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<v Speaker 1>that the school wasn't necessarily getting. What was the more

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<v Speaker 1>interesting story to you between those two schools this cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think for me it would have to be

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<v Speaker 2>Texas A and M because we know they've been able

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<v Speaker 2>to recruit at an elite level. They did it under

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Sumlin when they first got into the SEC. What

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<v Speaker 2>I think was the most impressive was and it reminds

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<v Speaker 2>me now again, if you're a Texas A and NFN,

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<v Speaker 2>turn your head. I don't want to scare you, but

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<v Speaker 2>it reminds me a little bit of the twenty ten

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<v Speaker 2>Florida class that, of course a lot of people say

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<v Speaker 2>is what ultimately caused all the heart problems Urban Meyer had.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, he was getting guys from all over

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<v Speaker 2>the country, going up into New York to get guys

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<v Speaker 2>going to Pennsylvania, coming out to California, staying in Florida,

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<v Speaker 2>and truly Florida went national that year with its d

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<v Speaker 2>line recruitment. Now you look at this class, this is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best defensive line classes I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>You got Walter Nolan from Tennessee, you got Gabriel Brown,

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<v Speaker 2>Lodindi from Florida, you got any from Pennsylvania. So again

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<v Speaker 2>that's where the Florida similar is kind of are similar.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Luca is from Arizona, and you got the fifth

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<v Speaker 2>best defensive alignment in that class is a kid from

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<v Speaker 2>their own state. And you know he's the number twelve

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<v Speaker 2>player in the state of Texas. But that's the fifth

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<v Speaker 2>best defensive lineman in Texas A and M side signed

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<v Speaker 2>in Malik Celia. So you look at what Texas A

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<v Speaker 2>and M has done on a national level. We're used

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<v Speaker 2>to Texas A and M recruiting well in the state

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<v Speaker 2>of Texas. But to see them, you know, I mean, shoot,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the other crazy thing. They you know, one

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<v Speaker 2>of them is a kicker, but they got an offensive

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<v Speaker 2>lineman and a kicker from the state of Washington. What

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<v Speaker 2>is Texas A and m ever really recruited the.

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<v Speaker 1>Northwest other than Scott Woodward.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, there you go than Scott Woolward. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's in I mean you just look at this

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<v Speaker 2>class and you see, yeah, it's still its strength is

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<v Speaker 2>in Texas, but a good chunk of their class was

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<v Speaker 2>made up nationally. We we knew Texas was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to recruit. Texas's problem has never been recruiting, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Steve Sarkasian's problem has never been recruiting. But

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that Texas's offensive line class, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've talked in the past about when Nick Saban's assistance.

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<v Speaker 2>The guys that have been former college head coaches, NFL

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<v Speaker 2>head coaches, you know, those guys know how to recruit.

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<v Speaker 2>They kind of understand how to run a room. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think Kyle Flood has done one of the best

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<v Speaker 2>jobs from a position coach standpoint at Texas this year.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we all thought Pete Kwaikowski, And when

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<v Speaker 2>I say when we all for sure me I thought

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<v Speaker 2>peak Kwikowski was the best assistant coaching higher he made.

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<v Speaker 2>And there might be some people that disagree with the

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<v Speaker 2>way the Texas defense played this year, but well, Kyle

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<v Speaker 2>Flood has done. From a recruiting standpoint, Texas's offensive line class,

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<v Speaker 2>getting Kelvin Banks fresh off of his Oregon de commitment,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, getting Cameron Williams who also decommitted, getting leek

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<v Speaker 2>Ago out of Washington. They're in the mix for Devon Campbell.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Texas's offensive line class is good, but it's overshadowed.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say the biggest surprise is just how well

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<v Speaker 2>Texas and and recruited nation to the point where right

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<v Speaker 2>now they have the number one class in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think they did anything different? Obviously they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be snickers about, you know, nil and being paid

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<v Speaker 1>and everything like that. What changed? What I mean, was

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<v Speaker 1>it the new recruiting coordinator? What changed? Or do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it is pudentially a product of teams they usually

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<v Speaker 1>recruit against having turmoiled situations? Right you have lsu down

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<v Speaker 1>and fire as a coach and they're the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the closest you know in that geographic area. LSU is down. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama is going to do what it does, but the

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<v Speaker 1>Mississippi schools are not recruiting on a super duper high level.

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<v Speaker 1>They're fine, Arkansas is recruiting alright, Texas recruited well. But

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<v Speaker 1>there is something right now about especially Maybe it's the

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<v Speaker 1>down LSU thing, Maybe it's whatever it is, what changed

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<v Speaker 1>from Jimbo and A and M going from becoming very

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<v Speaker 1>good recruiters to top flight elite.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say there was a couple of factors. I

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<v Speaker 2>think there might be some credence to LSU being somewhat down. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>Ole Miss and Mississippi State with those two coaches that

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<v Speaker 2>they're not new, but when they first got hired Ole

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<v Speaker 2>Miss Mississippi State didn't have a lot of time to

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<v Speaker 2>get coaches onto CARRA and get recruits on a campus

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<v Speaker 2>because they were hired so late in that twenty twenty cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a February dead trade for the first time,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was about ten to eleven day in Mark

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<v Speaker 2>before the pandemic shut everything down. Whereas I think the

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<v Speaker 2>other thing is when we see this a lot in recruiting,

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<v Speaker 2>you may not see the byproduct of that current season

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<v Speaker 2>having an effect on recruiting, especially now with the early

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<v Speaker 2>signing period, you usually see the bump in the following year.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think Texas A and M. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at some of the better classes Utah has had

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<v Speaker 2>out in the Pac twelve, it's been on the heels

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<v Speaker 2>of their previous season. Well, now you take a Texas

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<v Speaker 2>A and M that finished what number three in the

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<v Speaker 2>polls last year? Number four won the Orange Bowl. So

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<v Speaker 2>they had this entire offseason where they were going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a preseason top five team. They were coming off

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<v Speaker 2>their best season under Jimbo Fisher, and again they were

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<v Speaker 2>able to kind of spread that wall. Plus the fear

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<v Speaker 2>of defensive linement. You look and you see one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most dominant defensive linemen in the NFL is Miles Garrett.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though he never played a snap for Jimbo Fisher.

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<v Speaker 2>There's still that word association defensive lineman and A and M.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, a guy like Von Miller, So there's Texas

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<v Speaker 2>A and M has a lot to sell. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do think the Marshall Malschow hiring away from Georgia. He

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<v Speaker 2>was a big part of the success Kirby had with

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<v Speaker 2>his recruiting classes. And now you see there's a clear

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<v Speaker 2>plan in place, there's assistant coaches in place that execute

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<v Speaker 2>that plan, and now you have Texas A and M

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<v Speaker 2>at the top of the ranks as a.

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<v Speaker 1>Result of that, it was weirdly a quiet maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was a quiet signing day or a quiet cycle for

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<v Speaker 1>some of the powers of recruiting, it seems, even though

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<v Speaker 1>they had excellent classes. Obviously, with changes at places like

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<v Speaker 1>LSU and Notre Dame that changes some of the mechanics

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<v Speaker 1>of early signing day. But like Alabama's class was in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of average recruit ranking the best in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't hear a lot because of the Travis Hunter thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because of Jimbo and A and m ascending in the

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<v Speaker 1>Texas and whatever, and the new hires out west. But

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama's class, Ohio State's class, Clemson's class, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of tiny, what jumps out to you. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>they're stacked, But is there a narrative? Is there a

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<v Speaker 1>story to either of those classes or any of those

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<v Speaker 1>other top flight classes that are sort of lost in

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<v Speaker 1>the shuffle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you said it was a quiet day for Alabama

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<v Speaker 2>and they ended up with the number two two class

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<v Speaker 2>in the country and they might not still be done.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a quiet day for Ohio State. They lost

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<v Speaker 2>to commit to Texas and they finished with the number

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<v Speaker 2>four class in the country, and they might not still

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<v Speaker 2>be done. So I think we've gotten so used to

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<v Speaker 2>Bama and Ohio State having big signing days, even Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Georgia has led for a good chunk of

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<v Speaker 2>the fall in the recruiting rankings. Over the last ten days.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had Texas, A and Georgia and Alabama at various

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<v Speaker 2>points leading. But Alabama, Georgia and Ohio State or schools

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, we were used to winning signing Day,

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<v Speaker 2>well they've won all the way leading up to Sunny Day.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was a little bit quiet yesterday. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the one that probably you know, you look at and see, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well how did they get in here is a North

0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Carolina you know, and we see the mac brown effect.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you look at the top ten rankings, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of status quo, kind of the same schools that

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<v Speaker 2>even though it might not have been as loud and

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<v Speaker 2>boisterous on signing day for in Alabama, or for Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>or for an Ohio State or for a Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 2>They all ended up with top ten classes. That is

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<v Speaker 2>the one where it's like we're used to seeing Clemson

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<v Speaker 2>when North Carolina is Dabble had to deal with things

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<v Speaker 2>he's never had to deal with this year. And that

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<v Speaker 2>was not just losing his two coordinators as athletic director,

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<v Speaker 2>but he lost three d commitments in the span of

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<v Speaker 2>about forty eight hours that were all committed largely because

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<v Speaker 2>of brand Bennables. So for the first time on the

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<v Speaker 2>field in about seven years and now for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time in recruiting in about seven years, Dabo's had to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with a little bit of an uncertainty. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of drama. I don't know if drama is

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<v Speaker 2>the right word, but he's had to deal with with

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<v Speaker 2>some things that he hasn't had to deal with for

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<v Speaker 2>a while. So we'll see how he responds and if

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<v Speaker 2>Clemson can bounce back to where they were from twenty

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen to twenty twenty. But with the coordinator departures and

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<v Speaker 2>then losing the three players and they were all from

0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.160
<v Speaker 2>IMG Academy, which is a school that clems in has

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<v Speaker 2>had some success at so it's been kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>unique offseason and fall in Clemson.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and don't cry for Clemson because even though it

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<v Speaker 1>was a smaller class, I think they had like the

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<v Speaker 1>fifth or sixth average recruit rank. I believe, I'm we're

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<v Speaker 1>in there. So it's still secut to the ACC right

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<v Speaker 1>third of the ACC, right, yeah, behind North Carolina and

0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Florida State. Oh, in Florida State, that's right, Florida State.

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<v Speaker 1>Even with the de commitment of Travis Hunter. As I

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<v Speaker 1>look at the rankings, by the way, a number of

0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.400
<v Speaker 1>teams who are by no means powers on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe there's excitement around the program. Maybe it is

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, the year after bump. But even in

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC missoo Kentucky Stanford I won't fully understand from

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<v Speaker 1>a football standpoint, but you can never really criticize anybody

0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.680
<v Speaker 1>for going to Stanford. Who jumps out to you in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the unusual players in that top fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Range, Well, you just said Kentucky and Missouri the two.

0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're used to seeing Kentucky up there, but

0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.400
<v Speaker 2>it's for basketball practice. You know, Indiana with a top

0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty class and again that's where the previous season bump

0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.880
<v Speaker 2>comes into play. Indiana had a great twenty twenty season,

0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.320
<v Speaker 2>a completely miserable twenty twenty one season, and yet recruiting

0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.040
<v Speaker 2>definitely was a bump in the twenty twenty two cycle

0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.280
<v Speaker 2>as a result of that. But I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Missouri and Kentucky are two that were not used to

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<v Speaker 2>see you. First of all, he was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most stable jobs that I think Mark Soops has done

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<v Speaker 2>a phenomenal job there. I think was at the Athletic

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<v Speaker 2>that said it was the number one job in college

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<v Speaker 2>football to have because of the stability and because it's

0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.400
<v Speaker 2>a basketball score, you know, but Seops has done a

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<v Speaker 2>great job recruiting there. Kiante Goodwin, I mean, what a

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<v Speaker 2>win for him, not only to get his commitment the

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<v Speaker 2>first time. If you haven't seen Kanta Goodwin, folks, go

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<v Speaker 2>look at his Twitter. It's one of the most fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>themes because he was committed to Kentucky, but he took

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<v Speaker 2>five official visits and every time he went on a visit,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd see this massive six foot eight, three hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty pound three hundred and forty pound game next to

0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.440
<v Speaker 2>guys like Jimbo Fisher or guys like Nick stated. But

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<v Speaker 2>the one that really makes you just go, oh my gosh,

0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.960
<v Speaker 2>this kid's gigantic was there was a picture from his

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<v Speaker 2>official visit to Michigan where he's standing with Juwan Howard.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm old enough to remember the Fab Five. I

0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.840
<v Speaker 2>was an when they were in college. Now we think

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<v Speaker 2>Juwan Howard, Michigan basketball coach. I remember Juwan Howard, Michigan

0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.800
<v Speaker 2>basketball player, and he was the biggest dude on that team.

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<v Speaker 2>So we see not at all so good One's standing

0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:05.680
<v Speaker 2>next to him in this picture. Now, good One committed

0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.520
<v Speaker 2>to Kentucky, but five schools were trying to foot them.

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<v Speaker 2>As late as Wednesday afternoon, there was still uncertainty where

0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.000
<v Speaker 2>he was going to go. He then came on the

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<v Speaker 2>air and said he was going to stick with Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 2>but didn't send his nli in. Finally, on Thursday, his

0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.200
<v Speaker 2>nli went in and that was a gigantic win for

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<v Speaker 2>Mark stew a five star player and pretty much cemented

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<v Speaker 2>that in the top dozen. Missouri gets a five star

0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.840
<v Speaker 2>in Luther Burton. They got an All American quarterback in

0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Sam Horn, So Kentucky Missouri definitely benefiting from being in

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<v Speaker 2>the SEC, Missouri more so than ever because they've been

0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.960
<v Speaker 2>always kind of the foreign school in the SEC. But

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<v Speaker 2>those are two schools we're not used to see in

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<v Speaker 2>the top dozen nationally.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a number of high profile schools across the country.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, basically every major conference dealt with high profile

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<v Speaker 1>coaching changes, right LSU, Notre Dame, Oregon, USC, Washington. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to include Washington in major programs I am because

0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm nice feeling nice today. Obviously, floor to Miami, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Oklahoma. It's all over the place, and it's

0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:08.520
<v Speaker 1>all happening generally within two weeks of the early signing period.

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<v Speaker 1>So to you from those schools that had to scramble

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<v Speaker 1>to either secure and maintain a class or go out

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<v Speaker 1>and find new fis in not that much time, what

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<v Speaker 1>storyline stood out with what those schools did or didn't do.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say Notre Dame was was probably one of

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<v Speaker 2>the more remarkable stability, and a lot of that was

0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.720
<v Speaker 2>from hiring from within, Marcus Freeman being a no name,

0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.840
<v Speaker 2>being a player that the commits were openly campaigning for,

0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.879
<v Speaker 2>the players were campaigning for. You know that one I

0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:43.200
<v Speaker 2>think Notre Dame lost two D commitments since the departure

0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.520
<v Speaker 2>of Brian Kelly and then a third was kind of

0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.000
<v Speaker 2>trending that way even if Brian Kelly had stayed. But

0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.600
<v Speaker 2>they still ended up at the top seven class. Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they lost a few guys and sold I

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<v Speaker 2>think they had at one point lost six commits. They

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<v Speaker 2>ended up getting one back in the boat. They got

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<v Speaker 2>really killed in the twenty twenty three class though some

0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:00.840
<v Speaker 2>of their commitments. But I still I think Oklahoma's got

0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:04.040
<v Speaker 2>to be pretty happy with the top ten class. Oregon

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<v Speaker 2>in Miami are the two schools that. You know, this

0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.920
<v Speaker 2>was kind of an incomplete because Miami did get Martin

0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Christin Ball, but it was ten days before Sagnay Day.

0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Oregon got Dan Lanning three days before Saturday. So by

0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:18.520
<v Speaker 2>the time Dan Lanning was actually hired, there was no

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<v Speaker 2>more official visits that they were allowed to host, no

0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.239
<v Speaker 2>more Anhelm visits that they were allowed to make. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think eight D commits from Oregon plus a few

0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:30.600
<v Speaker 2>guys that stayed committed but didn't sign. But I think

0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Oregon can kind of rectify things down the stretch over

0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.280
<v Speaker 2>the next six weeks leading up to the February signing period.

0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.560
<v Speaker 2>And they might have some major things rectified by the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the weekend. If to Tory McMillan sens this

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<v Speaker 2>nl I to Oregon, he didn't announce, I'm sorry he

0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.639
<v Speaker 2>didn't sign on Wednesday. He's down to Oregon and Arizona,

0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.399
<v Speaker 2>and Arizona's making a push because they signed three of

0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.360
<v Speaker 2>us serve by teammates, including his best friend and quarterback Nofafita.

0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.960
<v Speaker 2>But I think if Oregon can get him. The big

0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.679
<v Speaker 2>news for Oregon yesterday was they got the nl at

0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Jelil Tucker had said he was going to wait until

0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.080
<v Speaker 2>February to sign his teammager Liil Florence already decommitted, but

0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.000
<v Speaker 2>getting Tucker, who I think is the better of the two,

0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:11.120
<v Speaker 2>getting his NLI flipping Anthony Jones from Texas, and then

0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.600
<v Speaker 2>having the six weeks to secure some of the uncommitted

0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.560
<v Speaker 2>unsigned guys that are committed. I think Oregon's going to

0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.440
<v Speaker 2>be fine when February gets here. They're number one class

0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:21.080
<v Speaker 2>in the PAC twelve in away, but they're still probably

0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:23.159
<v Speaker 2>in line to be the number two class. And then Miami.

0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.879
<v Speaker 2>They got a couple of key players yesterday, including Nigelie Kelly.

0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.520
<v Speaker 2>But I think you give Mario Chris Ball another six

0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.119
<v Speaker 2>weeks on the job in Miami, will end up with

0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.399
<v Speaker 2>a pretty decent class by the time we get around

0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:37.560
<v Speaker 2>two February. I think right now they check in at somewhere.

0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm scrolling through here.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, no your got here, Miami, Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>There's somewhere on this list. I think they're ahead of Miami, Ohio.

0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Mimmy is sixty seconds, right behind TCU, who made a

0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.160
<v Speaker 1>new hire major program making new hire, right in front

0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:54.280
<v Speaker 1>of Memphis and Pitted.

0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:56.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to put my glasses on because I just

0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.440
<v Speaker 2>scrolled right past them on that one. But with only

0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:02.000
<v Speaker 2>a commit. So it's a small class so far. I

0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:04.560
<v Speaker 2>don't anticipate they're going to be sitting pat at eight.

0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:06.639
<v Speaker 2>They'll probably try to get another six to eight guys.

0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:10.960
<v Speaker 2>But because of the coaching carousel, because that this class

0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.119
<v Speaker 2>lost the spring evaluation period, in six weeks out of

0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:15.680
<v Speaker 2>the spring official visit period, there's a number of guys

0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:17.439
<v Speaker 2>that are still going to make their decisions either at

0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.240
<v Speaker 2>the All American Ball in January, the under Armor Game

0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:23.040
<v Speaker 2>in January, or on signing day. A lot more guys

0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.080
<v Speaker 2>are pushing their decision off, and that's why I think

0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:29.399
<v Speaker 2>we had such a relatively quiet signing day outside of

0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Travis Hunter on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>One school you didn't mention, which I think there has

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<v Speaker 1>been and rightfully so a lot of excitement around is

0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:38.520
<v Speaker 1>USC tiny class and I imagine another one of those

0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:40.760
<v Speaker 1>schools that you know, without a lot of time to

0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:45.000
<v Speaker 1>evaluate and visit and whatever, is going to take its

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<v Speaker 1>time and figure out who fits come February common Class

0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:50.600
<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty three com transfer portal. Whatever. What is

0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.200
<v Speaker 1>your I guess short term and long term outlook on

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<v Speaker 1>what Lincoln Riley has done and can do in la

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<v Speaker 1>an area that you know there are a lot of

0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:03.160
<v Speaker 1>talented players in US when it's operating, can land all

0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.639
<v Speaker 1>of them? What is your outlook with Lincoln Riley, with

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<v Speaker 1>the class and beyond.

0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.720
<v Speaker 2>So when the days started on Wednesday, USC was ranked

0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.359
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifth in the country and twelfth in

0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:16.440
<v Speaker 2>the Pac twelve. They only got two new editions yesterday'

0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:19.359
<v Speaker 2>Zion Branch out of Las Vegas, a top fifty player nationally,

0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:21.919
<v Speaker 2>the number one player in the state of Nevada, and

0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:25.600
<v Speaker 2>then they landed Garrison Madden out of Georgia, linebacker, highly

0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.720
<v Speaker 2>rated linebacker in the three star group out of Georgia,

0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:30.840
<v Speaker 2>but they only added two commits to jumped up twenty

0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.399
<v Speaker 2>four spots. As a result of that, they're now tenth

0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.159
<v Speaker 2>in the PAC twelve. But if there's anybody that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to fit from the February signing period more than the USC,

0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.919
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to find it because Dolmanti Jackson, who's the

0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.440
<v Speaker 2>number two corner in the country after Travis Hunner, will

0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:47.600
<v Speaker 2>announce his final decision on Friday between Alabama and USC.

0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:51.000
<v Speaker 2>He was a longtime commit to USC. Alabama had been

0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:52.640
<v Speaker 2>putting the press on him. He took a visit out

0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:54.600
<v Speaker 2>to Michigan. A lot of people thought he might end

0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:57.400
<v Speaker 2>up in Michigan. He eliminated Michigan from his list, went

0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:01.440
<v Speaker 2>with Alabama and USC two days after Lincoln Riley was hired.

0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Two days after Lincoln Riley, changing the entire complexion of

0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Pack twelve recruiting re Leake Brown, his teammateem Modern Day,

0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:11.359
<v Speaker 2>ended up decommittee from Oklahoma to USC. CJ. Williams was

0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:13.880
<v Speaker 2>a long time commit to Notre Dame, another Modern Day prospect.

0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:16.280
<v Speaker 2>He is likely going to end up at USC. He'll

0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:19.520
<v Speaker 2>announce at the All American Ball so Cyrus Moss had

0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:22.160
<v Speaker 2>a top three in Arizona State, Alabama, and Oregon. Now

0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:24.239
<v Speaker 2>USC is right back in the mix for him. So

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:27.560
<v Speaker 2>there's three top fifty, top seventy five players just right

0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.520
<v Speaker 2>there that USC is either leading for or has a

0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:34.600
<v Speaker 2>good chance to get. So those three alone should continue

0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:36.640
<v Speaker 2>to move this class up. But I think you're now

0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:38.800
<v Speaker 2>seeing those elite players that had been leaving the area.

0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:42.919
<v Speaker 2>Demanta Jackson, if Clay Helton's retained, Demanta Jackson probably signs

0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:45.880
<v Speaker 2>to Alabama yesterday. But now with Lincoln Riley, there's reason

0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:48.919
<v Speaker 2>for these West Coast kids to stay in southern California.

0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:51.760
<v Speaker 2>And I think we're going to see the power shifting

0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:55.080
<v Speaker 2>back a little bit from Oregon to USC in terms

0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:56.920
<v Speaker 2>of who's the alpha when it comes to recruiting.

0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:00.879
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, I don't think there's a question in the Midwest

0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:03.720
<v Speaker 1>at this point still who the alpha is because of

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:07.160
<v Speaker 1>what Ohio State ceiling is in terms of looking nationally

0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:11.680
<v Speaker 1>and securing nationally incredible classes. But Michigan and Penn State

0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:15.919
<v Speaker 1>are kind of right there. This year sixteen blue chippers

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 1>for Ohio State, sixteen blue chippers for Penn State, eleven

0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 1>from Michigan. Then of course a drop off before Indiana

0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:24.359
<v Speaker 1>and Michigan State. What did Penn State and Michigan do

0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:28.080
<v Speaker 1>this year that seemed different? Now Jim Harbaugh and James

0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:32.639
<v Speaker 1>Franklin have recruited, well, it seems like they both closed

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:35.280
<v Speaker 1>and in the case of Penn State opened pretty strongly

0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>this year. Was there something different in the way they

0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:39.720
<v Speaker 1>went after kids? Are their kids from this class? We

0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.479
<v Speaker 1>were just like, man, those are your cornerstone dudes? How

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:43.760
<v Speaker 1>do you look at those two classes?

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:45.760
<v Speaker 2>So remember earlier when I say you really get a

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.919
<v Speaker 2>bump in your recruiting depending on the season. Four ignore

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:51.920
<v Speaker 2>that for Penn State and Michigan, who both had horrible

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenties, especially compared to what James Franklin and Jim

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Harbive experienced at their respective schools. Pen's safe for a

0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:00.480
<v Speaker 2>good chunk in the year. Habitat class in the now.

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 2>A lot of it was because they got a lot

0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:03.480
<v Speaker 2>of early commitments and held on to a lot of

0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 2>those guys, but other schools ended up passing them up.

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Michigan the same way they'd had a Jim Harbaugh's problem

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.480
<v Speaker 2>has never been recruiting. It's been beating Ohio State, beating

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:15.359
<v Speaker 2>his rival beating Michigan State, but this year they did

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 2>at least one of those two. But their recruiting was

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.399
<v Speaker 2>great and they actually closed well down the stretch. Getting

0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Darius Clements a flip yesterday or not flip, but he

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:26.200
<v Speaker 2>was a long time It was long thought he was

0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 2>going to end up at Oregon. Were not having a

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:31.399
<v Speaker 2>permanent receivers coach probably cost him. Darius Clements, but they

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:33.960
<v Speaker 2>were able to get him. Derek Moore, who'd been a

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:37.440
<v Speaker 2>long time commit to Oklahoma, ended up signing with Michigan yesterday,

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:39.880
<v Speaker 2>so and then key On sapp one of those long

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.640
<v Speaker 2>time comes and commits from Ing, he signed with Michigan.

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:44.920
<v Speaker 2>So they closed really well. Penn State did a good

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:47.119
<v Speaker 2>job of holding on to guys, and what they have

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 2>going for them is they had the twenty four to

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:52.119
<v Speaker 2>seven Sports number one quarterback, Drew Aller, a guy that

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 2>they did a phenomenal job of early identifying. He was

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:56.680
<v Speaker 2>a three star I thinkue when he first started to

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.200
<v Speaker 2>blow up onto the scene we saw at the Elite eleven.

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 2>He's now our number one quarterback in the country. Nicholas

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Singleton out of Pennsylvania. He was the Gatorade National Player

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 2>of the year, a big time running back, top five player.

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 2>They got Kaden Saggers, who's just outside Columbus from Ohio,

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.440
<v Speaker 2>but he's been committed to Penn State for quite some time.

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Danny Dennis Sutton out of Maryland. I think at Penn

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 2>State he did a really good job was the early

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 2>commitments and then holding on to them. While Michigan use

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 2>again they're going to see their best bump in the

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty three class. But Michigan definitely got some success in

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 2>December based off of the Ohio State win, the Big

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Ten championship in the spot in the Cultural World playoff.

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:33.639
<v Speaker 2>Darius Comes alone told me that when you're winning and

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 2>then going to the college football playoffs like Michigan did,

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 2>that definitely makes them more appealing to me.

0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Tell me about the quarterback class of twenty twenty two

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:45.119
<v Speaker 1>thus far. Who are you excited about? Who are not

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 1>deep sleepers, but who are guys where you're like, man,

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:51.199
<v Speaker 1>this team got somebody and it is incredible that this

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.199
<v Speaker 1>team got them. I don't know if you have that

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 1>guy or not, but what is your evaluation of the

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:57.639
<v Speaker 1>class as you see it?

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 2>So it's interesting because in twenty twenty two we had

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Quinn ewers in this class, he was the number one

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 2>FOT in the country. He reclassifies the twenty twenty one.

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Now he's in Texas where he might as well be

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:12.119
<v Speaker 2>at twenty twenty two, but he was kind of the

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:14.640
<v Speaker 2>alpha and the omega of the quarterbacks, and everybody else

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 2>was kind of behind him. Fast forward to the Elite

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 2>eleven in June and July. Quinn was there, but so

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 2>is Kate Klubnick, Connor Wegman, Tys Simpson, Drew Aler, Walker Howard,

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 2>who are all the top five. Devin Brown made a

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:28.800
<v Speaker 2>big jump, and now we have Kate Clubnick as the

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.680
<v Speaker 2>number one quarterback in the composite. We have Drew Aler

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 2>ourselves at twenty four seven as the number one quarterback.

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Penn State gets taller, Clemson gets club Nick, and if

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 2>all things go as planning, club Nick will sit behind

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 2>dajat Leandalilei in twenty twenty two and then have the

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 2>chance to be the guy in twenty twenty three. Connor

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Wegman's a big, physical, duel threat type that's going to

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:50.399
<v Speaker 2>Texas A and M A great pig is. So you

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:53.400
<v Speaker 2>look at the schools that had the top six seven

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks they're who you expect, Clemson A and m Alabama,

0:26:57.040 --> 0:27:00.400
<v Speaker 2>lsut Ohio State and Georgia, even Florida State in aj

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Duffy and holding on to him when it looked like

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 2>he was going to ASU. Schools were still trying. But

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:06.919
<v Speaker 2>then the schools that kind of end up in the

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 2>top fifteen that were not used to seeing them pulling

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:11.919
<v Speaker 2>in quarterbacks. You got Purdue getting Brady Allen. And when

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I say not I used to getting quarterbacks. It's been

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 2>twenty years since Drew Brees was plus. Drew Brees was

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.919
<v Speaker 2>small and he's still small now. But in nineteen ninety

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 2>seven when he signed, there weren't quarterbacks like Drew. But

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 2>hees going to college. But pretty gets Brady Allen out

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 2>of Indiana. You have Missouri getting Sam Horne, who's a

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 2>teammate of Travis Hunter at Collins Hill. They'll be playing

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 2>on ESPN this weekend in the Glico State both series.

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 2>And he's a baseball player too, But a big pick

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 2>up from Missouri to go with Luther Burden. You also

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.119
<v Speaker 2>see Michigan State with Kiten Howser, who was in a

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.880
<v Speaker 2>very unique situation, played his first two years in Las Vegas,

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Vegas didn't have football In twenty twenty two, thousands went

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 2>to Saint John Bostoll split duties with Pierce Clarkson and

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 2>they were doing an alternate series basically for two years.

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Kateen Hawser was going to Michigan State despite never being

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 2>the full time starter out of school, so we're not

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 2>he's seeing really Michigan, seeing Purdue getting that they're usually

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 2>the ones that get the outlier type quarterbacks right end

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 2>up going to the NFL in spite of their ranking.

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Utah as well, getting Nate Johnson, who phenomenal track athlete,

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 2>and he's going to Utah where I think you look

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 2>at him and you can see a little bit of

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Tyler Huntley and him where he's a guy that's going

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:20.479
<v Speaker 2>to kill you with his legs as much as he's

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 2>going to kill you with his arm, but as he

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 2>continues to develop as a passer, he will kill you

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 2>with his arm more than his legs because he's got

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:29.239
<v Speaker 2>a good arm. He's just continuing to develop as a

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:32.639
<v Speaker 2>thrower as a passer, but a guy that has really

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 2>unmatched athleticism from any quarterback in this position.

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Were there any schools this class that you heard that

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 1>were doing a particularly creative job in the way that

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>they recruited kids. I don't necessarily mean nil or whatever,

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>but it's just like, Okay, this guy's a big personality

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>that really resonated with kids, and he's kind of new

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>to this. Like, is there anybody who stood out to

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 1>you like, oh man, this is interesting the way that

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Boston College, the way that Minnesota. Is there a school

0:28:57.640 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>that really did something new this year?

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I go back to kitten Houser. I

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 2>really feel like with Milt Tucker's reputation as a defensive guy,

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 2>they really made kitten Houser their priority from the get go,

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 2>and they really hammered home. You know, this could be

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 2>your program. You're not from the West Coast, so you're

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 2>not from the Midwest. You're from the West coast. But

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>even on his official visiting, I remember seeing videos of

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 2>him walking into the stadium and hearing his name on

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 2>the jumbo tron or seeing his name of the jumbletron,

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 2>hearing his name over the loudspeaker, and he just said

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 2>it resonated with him. And we're used to seeing that

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 2>with receivers or with dbs, with running backs. You don't

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 2>necessarily see quarterbacks get caught up in all the hype

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 2>of recruiting. But I think Michigan State did a phenomenal

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 2>job of recruiting kitten Houser. He was committed to Boise State,

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 2>which isn't a bad school, which is turned out some

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 2>decent quarterbacks in years past, but Michigan State just really

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 2>hit a home run with him off the official visit.

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 2>And you know, because quarterbacks commit so early, you don't

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 2>really hear about a lot of quarterbacks who the official

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>visit is the swing to get them there. So that

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 2>was how do the unique take that that was official

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 2>visit that really swung him away from Boise State, And

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 2>maybe it was just Miltucker, and maybe Miltucker was selling, hey,

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be here for ten more years, but

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 2>because they're going to pay me one hundred million dollars.

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 2>But even then, they did a really good job of

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 2>flipping him from Boise State, which it has to success

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 2>with him, and again, not a whole lot of creativity

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 2>there other than it was just one of those weird

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 2>situations where you finally heard a quarterback talk about the

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 2>official visit being why he hit the school.

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>You're in the Pacific Northwest, which has now gotten to

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>be a lot better in terms of a recruiting ground

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>top kids from Oregon, Washington, but the West Coast in

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>general has been I don't know if it's come off.

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 1>It's just being pillaged by Georgia, Clemson, Alabama, whatever, a

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of top flight kids. But you're still around all

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>these kids at camps and you're going to games. You

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>know their coaches, you know their parents. What is it

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>like in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two to be

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>a top flight kid being recruited? What is their daily

0:30:55.960 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>life like in terms of what their communications is like

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>with the expectations for how they behave online, offline whatever.

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>What is that life like right now?

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 2>So I'll get a good insight, you know, you and

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I talked a lot about it during the recruiting process

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 2>of JT. Two Molobile, who was the number one player

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>in the country in twenty twenty one, And you know,

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I got a really good insight into how the recruiting

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 2>process works with the number one player in the country,

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 2>more so than in previous years. Remember when Najie Harris

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 2>was the number one player, he committed early at Alabama.

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 2>The really rules school that ever really seemingly had a

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 2>chance to get him was Michigan, but it was always

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of you know, on Alabama and Naji. Although he's

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 2>a great interview now, back in the day, Nagie hated talking,

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 2>so he didn't get a whole lot from him. Now

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 2>he was with JT five years later when he took

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 2>his official visits in June. This was the first time,

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 2>and that was because there was no official business in

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one for the most part. But instead of

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 2>schools talking about their facilities, instead of them talking about

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 2>their training table, instead of them talking about their coaches,

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 2>he started to hear in June how much NIL was

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 2>being discussed in the recruiting process. So now when I

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 2>talked to JT, how's presentation? Oh, I was cool, you know,

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Or how's the visit? I was cool? You know their

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>NIL presentation? Not Hey, there's strength and conditioning programs. This

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 2>it's It's not because he didn't care about it. It's

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 2>that the schools were trying to hammer that home. When

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 2>people saw Travis Hunter leave yesterday Florest State for Jackson State,

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 2>the first thing that came out was NIL. And that

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 2>is now what is being hammered home with his recruits.

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 2>But it's also something that recruits are hammering home with

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 2>these schools. So when you look at the elite recruits

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 2>in the twenty twenty two class, in the twenty twenty

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 2>three class, there's no longer as much of a concern

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 2>about NFL development being at the top of the list.

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 2>It's nil. How is my brand going to grow? How

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 2>can you grow my brand for me? Then it's what

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 2>does the depth chart look like? Again, it used to

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 2>be NFL development. Well, believe it or not, Dan, there

0:32:57.120 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 2>was a time where it was where your degree from.

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I know we're old, but it was

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 2>that time. Then it was about winning. Then it was

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 2>about development. Then there was the NFL and the depth

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 2>chart and all that. Now it's change. It's nil, it's

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:17.479
<v Speaker 2>depth chart. It's what is the traffic looking like at

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 2>the position I'm at? And oh, by the way, coach

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 2>in your back pocket, keep these five schools warm just

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 2>in case I don't get a shot at the school

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 2>that they're telling me I'm going to get because I'm

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 2>going to go in the portal. So you're almost recruiting

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 2>a number of schools when you're a recruit not being

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 2>recruited by them, but you're keeping other relationships warm just

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 2>in case you ultimately need to end up there in

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 2>a year from now.

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna ask what is it like from the

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>other side, Like if I don't know if Lincoln Riley,

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm just making up names here, but if you know,

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Billy Napier is recruiting a kid and they've got a

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>great relationship with the kids, says you know what, I'm

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go to George, I'm gonna go to Alabama

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. What is it like from the coaches knowing

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>that because the portal has gotten so huge, how are

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>they maintaining relationships? Obviously they're not talking to the kids

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>while they're at another school and tampering. How do these

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:06.239
<v Speaker 1>coaches maintain how do they stay in good graces of

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>like remember me, guys, I'm you know, if it doesn't

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 1>work out, it's so and so. Are they keeping up

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 1>relationships with seven on seven coaches? Are they keeping up

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 1>relationships with high school coaches? How is that? How are

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 1>these coaches massaging the recruiting universe if you're watching on

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>video and edge, Yeah, they're not tampering at all, But

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 1>they're talking to somebody who's talking there to them.

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 2>There is a middle man involved, you know, the high

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 2>school coach, the seven on seven coach, the trainer, whoever

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 2>it may be. What's interesting is, you know, you talk

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 2>to schools about you got twelve guys committed, you have

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:40.839
<v Speaker 2>root for twenty five. You know, why are you only

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 2>bringing in twelve because we're going to go hit the

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 2>portal hard. Why because we don't have time to recruit

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 2>the high school kids. We have to recruit our own

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:49.760
<v Speaker 2>kids that are talking about going into the portal, plus

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:51.879
<v Speaker 2>the portal kids that can actually come in and help us,

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:53.879
<v Speaker 2>So we don't have time to go chasing around kids

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 2>that are still unknown quantities. Even the league kids are

0:34:57.600 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 2>still an unknown because they haven't played it down on

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 2>college football. But then there's guys that are in the

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 2>portal that haven't played it down that they want to leave.

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 2>But those relationships existed. You at least knew he had

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 2>a year of training table, he had a year of

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:15.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, development in the locker room, in the weight room,

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 2>of you know, whatever it is that that school does

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:21.439
<v Speaker 2>for a year for their football program. You're at least

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 2>willing to take a risk on a transfer that's a

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 2>freshman or a sophomore more than a high schoo team,

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 2>because you know, he at least had some experience at

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 2>a college program. So now colleges are having to spend

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 2>as much time recruiting their own kids. I mean it

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 2>used to be back in the day, when a kid transferred,

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 2>it was usually a kid he was buried on the

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 2>depth chart. He might have been completely homesick, and it

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 2>was usually you know, sion was on the wall, right,

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 2>was on the wall that he wasn't going to play.

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Then there was the whole process of going through the

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 2>transfer portal, or to be a transfer. There wasn't a portal.

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Then the portal came. Now you're seeing guys that are

0:35:56.560 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 2>multi year starters, multi game starters, twenty five games, meeting

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 2>because they want to go play somewhere else. They want

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 2>to go play with their friends, they want to go

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 2>play in front of their family, they want to go

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 2>play at a place where the system is better dedicated

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 2>to what they want to do. You're seeing grad transfers

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.839
<v Speaker 2>that have been starters, stars at those schools. They're going

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 2>into the portal and maybe want one more year. Maybe

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 2>with this quarterback you or with this receiving core, and

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, you never had to worry about recruiting your

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 2>own players back in the day. You had to recruit

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 2>the players that were considering going to the NFL a

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:31.399
<v Speaker 2>year early, and at least you were going to lose

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 2>them to the NFL, not to another college team, not

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 2>to a team that could be in your own conference.

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:38.760
<v Speaker 2>We're seeing so much interconference transferring now too, that schools

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 2>are genuinely worried that are my guys being tampered with

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 2>because I have to deprogram them from their dis scene

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 2>for this program that they're playing in and talk about

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:48.800
<v Speaker 2>of why they want to go play at that program,

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 2>which they haven't even been on the campus of in

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 2>a number of months. So college coaches and I think

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:56.319
<v Speaker 2>that that's why you're hearing so much above about the

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 2>early signing period now, is that college coaches are having

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:01.799
<v Speaker 2>to use their to set because you know, the first

0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Monday after the NFL season end, it's called black money.

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 2>That's when all those coaches get fired. Now, we saw

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:10.719
<v Speaker 2>the largest number in one day of transfers. Have excuse me,

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 2>the Monday after the regular season ended. Guys now know

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 2>where they stand, So you're having to spend as much

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 2>time recruiting your own guys as you are. You can't

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:22.360
<v Speaker 2>go do in homes with recruits until you know a

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 2>certain period, but you can call that kid into your

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 2>office that's on your campus, say get in here, what

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:28.399
<v Speaker 2>are you talking about? Why are you leading? Why don't

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 2>you come to us before this. Schools are just as

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:33.280
<v Speaker 2>son when a kid puts themself into the transfer portal

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 2>as I think fans are when that kid goes into

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:38.360
<v Speaker 2>the portal. So they're having to do more work keeping

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 2>their own guys happy. And these are guys that are

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 2>starters that have you know, taken the majority of snaps

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 2>at those positions.

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Am I correct and assuming? And you know this is

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea who would actually be an expert

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>in this, but it seems that with all the portal activity,

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 1>and when we hear about coaches wanting resources when they

0:37:55.880 --> 0:38:00.760
<v Speaker 1>want guys in their recruiting department, should schools have portal

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 1>specialists that just watch as much college football as humanly

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>possible so they know when somebody enters the portal like,

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 1>oh this guy's legit. Oh yeah, this because you don't

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>have any time, so basically you're recruiting your own players.

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 1>You're recruiting high school players and now, and I don't

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 1>know if twenty four seven has I think Chris Hummer

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>does this stuff. I believe right, is that his name?

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Who does? Who focuses on the portal? But should all

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:26.880
<v Speaker 1>schools not have somebody who's like, I know seven thousand players?

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Is that? Is that a reality in which we live now?

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? You know, Chris Summer and Clint Brewster both do

0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 2>a phenomenal job of the daily on going on of

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 2>the portal, and it's like they're always putting on names,

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.920
<v Speaker 2>and then they have to deal with angry fans that

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 2>have been because they're reporting. And then there's like the

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 2>kids want to put themself in the portal. Don't get

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 2>mad at me for disreporting it. But I remember when

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Nickolovich got hired at Washington State in twenty twenty, in January,

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 2>shortly after Michaelischia left from Missippi State. And I want

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 2>to say Washington State was the first school that hired

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:59.240
<v Speaker 2>a full time director of transfer recruiting, whether that was Juco's,

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 2>whether that was the poor But now you're starting to

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 2>see schools that we talked to the director player of

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 2>personnels director of recruiting. They're spending as much time hitting

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 2>refreshed on the portal to see who they can reach

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 2>out to right now, because no longer are the days,

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, with the transfer, you no longer have to

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:16.880
<v Speaker 2>wait for the kid to get the release. You see,

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:18.919
<v Speaker 2>you had to get the release, and it was maybe

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 2>the school said you can't play at any school that's

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 2>on our schedule for the next four years, or you

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 2>can't go to any school that's in our conference. Now

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 2>these kids can go from USC to UCLA, they can

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 2>go to Florida to Florida State, they can go wherever

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 2>they want. So these guys are constantly hitting a refreshed,

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 2>a seed who's available. We don't have to wait for

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:38.279
<v Speaker 2>a release, We can hit that kid up immediately. Now,

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 2>there's some kids that don't allow themselves to be contact.

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:43.879
<v Speaker 2>Usually that means they already know where they're doing, which

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 2>right again, it's crazy how they know without ever talking community.

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Weird and how that works. Yeah, so weird.

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 2>But you're having situations now where schools are having to

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 2>recruit the portal far heavier than they ever recruited high schools.

0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:59.839
<v Speaker 2>Now they're having to watch film that they have cut

0:39:59.880 --> 0:40:02.800
<v Speaker 2>up of from those Saturday games instead of having huddle

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.479
<v Speaker 2>for high school kids or camp clips. There's no camp

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 2>clips of these kids that are recent, so you're going

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:09.879
<v Speaker 2>to try to watch any game that you can find

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 2>to see is this kid gonnefit our system. But you're

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:16.320
<v Speaker 2>seeing a new trend to schools having such a focus

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:18.840
<v Speaker 2>on transfer recruiting, and you're seeing it more with schools

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 2>that are with a first time head coach or a

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 2>new head coach program where he sees there's a need

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:26.359
<v Speaker 2>for a quick fix. Oregon State's a good example. When

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Smith first got to Oregon State, they hit the

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 2>portal hard. They hit JUCO transfers hard. Yesterday they signed

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:33.800
<v Speaker 2>sixteen players and only one was a transfer, and it

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 2>was a JUCO transfer from the area where they've recruited

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 2>some good dbs out of the last few years from

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 2>the JUCO ranks. But now in year four he could

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 2>start focusing on high school development. He's got those quick

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:46.880
<v Speaker 2>fixes in place. So you're going to see schools that

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 2>rely heavily on the transfer portal because that's the best

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 2>way to build their depth chart and the roster. So

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:55.360
<v Speaker 2>that means the admins and the personnel. Guys are spending

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.240
<v Speaker 2>more and more time watching current college film than granny

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 2>junior high school huddle film.

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 1>How does how does this trickle down to high school recruiting?

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:06.360
<v Speaker 1>That is, does it mean that there are more Power

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:09.839
<v Speaker 1>five level kids going G five? More G five level

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>going Power five? With the amount of movement at the

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Power five level? I just I feel like there's not

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:17.919
<v Speaker 1>enough scholarships to go around for everybody. So where how

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:20.839
<v Speaker 1>is this affecting the borderline high school kids?

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I talked to a PAC twelve DPP this week, and

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 2>if you don't know what a VPP is, record player personnel,

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:29.319
<v Speaker 2>and he made a you would know what it means.

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:31.359
<v Speaker 2>If your listeners don't know what it means, that's what

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 2>it is. And basically, these guys don't help with the

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 2>day to day coaching. They don't help with the day

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 2>to day development of those players. They're worried about your

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 2>two years from now, three years from now, four years

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 2>from now. And talking to him he said some of

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 2>that it was kind of key and stuck with me.

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 2>He said, I am worried that scholarship numbers are going

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 2>to be so heavily predicated on the transfers that more

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 2>and more high school kids aren't going to be recruited.

0:41:57.360 --> 0:41:59.720
<v Speaker 2>And if we're not recruiting high school kids, then who's

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:01.800
<v Speaker 2>going to be able to go into the portal. Schools

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 2>are going to have a hard time keeping eighty five

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 2>guys on the roster because they're doing such a poor

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 2>job of recruiting high school kids. And I never thought

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.759
<v Speaker 2>of it that way. Now, you were saying that in

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 2>the time where you still have players that have their

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 2>COVID season, the extra year of eligibility, so you have

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 2>super seniors, you have probably two or three more years

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.720
<v Speaker 2>of that happening, where the twenty twenty season was essentially

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 2>a watch. But schools are going to eventually have to

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 2>get back to the eighty five scholarships so they can

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:30.400
<v Speaker 2>have those players can have the eligibility, but it's going

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 2>to come at the expense of the scholarship that school

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.919
<v Speaker 2>has to give. Now, let's say you've got eight ten

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 2>guys that you want to keep in because they have

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:40.400
<v Speaker 2>that extra year. Then you want to go get some

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 2>guys from the portal. You might only be able to

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.440
<v Speaker 2>sign a classes ten to twelve guys. Well, that ten

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:47.800
<v Speaker 2>to twelve guys makes a trickle down. So there's FCS schools.

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 2>There's a group of five schools that are sitting there going, oh,

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 2>hell yeah, we get guys that we had no shot

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 2>at getting in previous years. Now we're going to come

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 2>in And it's not necessarily a bad evaluation thing. No,

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 2>it's a number. So you're going to see probably in

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 2>the twenty four, twenty five, twenty six NFL drafts, you're

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:09.919
<v Speaker 2>going to see a larger number of FCS G five

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:13.720
<v Speaker 2>guys drafted because they fell down to schools that normally

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have GOTTENAM and those schools took a chance on

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 2>those kids without maybe some junior film, without senior film.

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 2>But because the portal people are saying it's going to

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 2>kill hashs to recruiting, well, yes and no, it still

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:27.840
<v Speaker 2>means that guys are going to have a spot to

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 2>go if they're good enough. It just might not be

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 2>at the biggest level that those guys want to go

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 2>right away. But then the flip side of that is,

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 2>what if you go dominate a division two? What if

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 2>you go dominate at the FCS level. You do that

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 2>for a year or two, all of a sudden, you

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 2>know you're starting to see those Power of five schools

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 2>come creeping around on a kid from Weaver Saved or

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:49.760
<v Speaker 2>from Albany or from Buffalo or Buffalo's a G five school.

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:52.719
<v Speaker 2>You're seeing some of these FCS schools that are now

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 2>losing guys that were stars. You know a Zoo specific

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 2>where I went to school Division two school. It was

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 2>in any High School and I was there. They've been

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 2>in two school. Two years ago. They lost their All

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:06.319
<v Speaker 2>American receiver who transferred as a grad transfer to Penn State.

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I think he had like six receptions the year he

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:11.279
<v Speaker 2>was there. He had ninety receptions the year before. But

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 2>the problem is those kids graduate, they now I think

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 2>this is my only pathway to the NFL. The shot

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 2>is going to a Power five school. So they do that,

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:21.439
<v Speaker 2>and now you're going to see the back end those

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 2>scs and G five schools and D two schools paid price.

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give you an opportunity here because it's

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 1>very easy for you to sit back and look back

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 1>to the last two or three classes and say, I

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:34.760
<v Speaker 1>thought this guy would be awesome. He was awesome. Turns

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 1>out I was right. It's not that nice to go

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>back and say, didn't think this kid was any good.

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was overrated, and it turns out I

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 1>was right. That's not especially nice to do when a

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are listening to this show. So I

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:47.799
<v Speaker 1>want to give you an opportunity here to say, and

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 1>because nobody's ever right about everything, who are some of

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 1>the kids that surprised you have these last two or

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>three classes that you were like, look, I thought he

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:55.919
<v Speaker 1>was going to be fine, or look, I didn't see

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:58.960
<v Speaker 1>it for whatever reason, and this kid just totally shocked

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:01.160
<v Speaker 1>me with how good he was a college football player.

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, I appreciate you letting me go

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:07.319
<v Speaker 2>with who's been good as a player, because it's a

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:10.440
<v Speaker 2>lot better than Hey, which guy is your Darryl Scott

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 2>moment of twenty and eighteen nineteen twenty classes? Yeah, I

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 2>don't There's there's a couple guys that I thought we're

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 2>going to be, you know, average players, maybe guys that

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think we're going to be, you know, superstars

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 2>that I thought we're going to be, you know, just fine.

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I would say probably one of them was. I was

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:33.360
<v Speaker 2>a big Drake Jackson fan, but like I didn't know.

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Let me preface that by saying his junior year was

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 2>up and down, and that was as much dedicated to

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 2>the just the instability at USC, but he even he

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 2>outplayed what I thought, you know, we had him as

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 2>as a top sixty, top guy. I thought he'd be,

0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, potential second day pick. He's played himself into

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:52.319
<v Speaker 2>being a potential first rounder. But he's a guy that

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I fully expected to, you know, be a solid player

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 2>in the PAC twelve. But I didn't think he'd be

0:45:57.719 --> 0:45:58.560
<v Speaker 2>like an elite player.

0:45:58.560 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Trem mcdonnal.

0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 2>I will say he was another guy we were higher

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:04.840
<v Speaker 2>on than his teammate Christile, but even Tree McDuffie has

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 2>outplayed what my expectations were for him, where he may

0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 2>end up being a first round drafting. As a result

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 2>of that, now full disclosure, I will say that there

0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:16.080
<v Speaker 2>were some guys that I was completely wrong on, you know,

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 2>just period, that I thought were going to be really good.

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 2>One of those was Bru McCoy, and I'll chalk that

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 2>up to all the off the field issues that he's

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:27.440
<v Speaker 2>dealt with, part of them self inflicted, most of them

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:30.840
<v Speaker 2>self inflicted, all of them self inflicted. But he's not

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:32.600
<v Speaker 2>been the number ten player in the country or the

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 2>number one player in California, like we thought he was

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:39.800
<v Speaker 2>going back. One more guy that I thought would be good.

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:42.800
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think he would be uber. Uber elite is

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:45.839
<v Speaker 2>Drake London. And you know he was a guy that

0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, you and I are both from the same

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 2>part of southern California. I kind of have a little

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 2>bit of a special place in my heart for those

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:53.600
<v Speaker 2>kids from the Valley in Ventury County. But what Drake

0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:56.240
<v Speaker 2>London did it at see, I never did a million

0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:57.320
<v Speaker 2>years saw coming.

0:46:57.640 --> 0:46:58.720
<v Speaker 1>What happened, What happened?

0:46:58.719 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 2>What? Like?

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.359
<v Speaker 1>What didn't he show and how did he get there?

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Well? I don't think what he didn't show was he

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:07.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't show up to a lot of events because he

0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 2>was a hooper. And this was a guy that when

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:12.600
<v Speaker 2>he came to the Nike camp he was good. But

0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:15.440
<v Speaker 2>he was a big time basketball player. His first college

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 2>offer was a basketball offer from Tony Bennett at Virginia,

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:21.239
<v Speaker 2>So that's the kind of caliber basketball player he was.

0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 2>And then he tried to play basketball for a year

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:25.880
<v Speaker 2>at SC. But I never thought he would be the

0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 2>player he is now. He had the athleticism, he had

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:30.240
<v Speaker 2>the tools, but you always thought he was a basketball

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 2>player first who played football. Now, he's arguably one of

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 2>the top three receivers in the NFL in the NFL

0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Draft and a player that probably had a very good,

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 2>strong case to be the Black mc coffe winner before

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 2>the injury. But he's a player that definitely outplayed it.

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Going back a year before that too, Chris Alata. We

0:47:49.120 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 2>snuck him into the back end of the top two four, seven,

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:53.400
<v Speaker 2>but we never expected him to be the player he

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:56.319
<v Speaker 2>became at Ohio State. At that time, there was a

0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 2>guy on the other side of it, Jack Tuttle, out

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.399
<v Speaker 2>of San Diego as well. Seven on seventeen. We thought

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:03.319
<v Speaker 2>it was going to be a dude to Utah. It's

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 2>to Utah. He's out within the first probably two months

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 2>of school, ends up in Indiana, barely plays, and a

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:10.800
<v Speaker 2>lot of the ends up being the star. Jack Tittle

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 2>ends up making me know, be my Darrel Scott for

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:13.879
<v Speaker 2>that class.

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Wow, all right, Brandon Hoffman, I guess the only thing

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I have left is what are we expecting this next

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:24.400
<v Speaker 1>like month and a half ish is what percentage of

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:26.840
<v Speaker 1>top kids are still yet to sign? Where do you

0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 1>expect fireworks? Where do you expect quiet? When we have

0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I think about six weeks until the true signing day.

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I think we're going to see fireworks in College station

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:37.360
<v Speaker 2>because I think A and M is going to do

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more to lock up the number one class. Wow,

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:42.839
<v Speaker 2>they're still in the mix heavily for Harold Perkins. They're

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 2>still in the mix heavily for Shamar Stewart. Two top

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 2>ten players to go along with Walter Nolan. Evan Stewart's

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:50.279
<v Speaker 2>been committed. He hasn't signed yet, but he's the number

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:53.320
<v Speaker 2>one research, number two receiver in the country. You also

0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:56.319
<v Speaker 2>have you know USC. Can they get Dewane Jackson this week?

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:59.279
<v Speaker 2>We'll see j Williams announce for them in January? Can

0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 2>they make a lay run to get Cyrus Moss back

0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:05.719
<v Speaker 2>in the fold? Can they surprisingly surprise everybody and maybe

0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:08.400
<v Speaker 2>get Hero Canoo? Can they get Josh Connelly out of

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Seattle with whoever their offensive line higher is. So it's

0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:14.239
<v Speaker 2>some schools that are doing really well that could just

0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 2>fully solidify this class, texas A and M being the

0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:19.200
<v Speaker 2>most notable. And then what do the schools with a

0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:21.400
<v Speaker 2>new coach like an Oregon, like a USC like in

0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Miami do to empties when they can really unleash their

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 2>coaches on the road.

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 1>In the month of January, everybody follow Brandon Hoffman sign

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:31.759
<v Speaker 1>up twenty four to seven Sports. They do a fantastic job.

0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:34.319
<v Speaker 1>They are all over the place. The talent there. I

0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 1>mean you brought in Bud Elliott, like, come on, we

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 1>got a murder's row of recruiting talent and college football talent,

0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 1>college sports talent at twenty four to seven. Brandon, thank

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 1>you very very much for your time. And I hope

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:46.759
<v Speaker 1>you're eating something good tonight. You've earned it.

0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I would be eating from Mali's tonight.

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Is the time of year. Yes, do you have a

0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 1>preferred filling?

0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I am going to go. You know, I'm always been

0:49:57.040 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 2>more of a poork Tomali guy. I don't mind. Must

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 2>also some chicken Tamali. Sometimes I'll get the Hall of

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Pango cheddar one just to be really fun. But I'm

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:07.560
<v Speaker 2>more of a you know, a pork chieri ver they

0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:08.080
<v Speaker 2>type of guy.

0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm right there with you. I've grew up my soft

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:15.000
<v Speaker 1>spot for like a Rajas Tamali just with some leblanos

0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and cheese in there. It hits it for me. I

0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is. Maybe it's my old age

0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:21.360
<v Speaker 1>there you can't really go that wrong with a good Tamali.

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 2>No, you're from southern California. We basically it's the Tamali

0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:27.560
<v Speaker 2>capital of the United States, where all the good Tamali's

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:29.920
<v Speaker 2>come from. So yeah, you to a high standard. So

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 2>you have to try different Tomali's from different places to

0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:34.400
<v Speaker 2>see if they hold in the standard. And that's what

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:36.760
<v Speaker 2>I did during December, is try Tomali's from everywhere.

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize the more places I've lived and now,

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:43.320
<v Speaker 1>obviously Chicago and New York do really well with Mexican food,

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of people I've come across don't realize

0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:48.520
<v Speaker 1>it gets a little bit cold. Oh it's Tamali season.

0:50:48.680 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 1>It's Tamali's season. Absolutely, Brandon Hoffman, thank you very much

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:53.319
<v Speaker 1>for your time.

0:50:53.680 --> 0:51:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Sam